UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP Halloween Special: Vietnam Night Vision Terror

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

What if our perception is not the true nature of reality as we know it? Stephen Diener introduces the stories of those who claim to have seen different spectrums of reality using enhanced vision capabilities. Could this one story in particular out of the Vietnam war connect all the dots? Listen and find out in this spooky edition of UAP...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Stephen Dean are here with you on UAP's greatest hits. And I wanted to put this one out especially for this Halloween time. And it is kind of a spooky edition of UAP. So I thought it, you know what, this fits pretty well with Halloween right now. So let's go ahead and put this out there. And actually, I'm glad I get to put this one out there again and kind of bring it back to the forefront. when it comes to Vietnam Night Vision Terror. I remember investigating this because this originally came out back in July of 2024. It's about a year and a half ago. And I spent, I want to say about a week or so, really digging into this. And you'll hear it all here.

I actually go into kind of how I fell down a rabbit hole with this. I came across so much that it wasn't expecting. It all really kind of started with kind of coming across one blur, about a story about some Vietnam veterans talking about really strange visions that they had while in Vietnam. And when I saw this really one quick story about it, it really led me down a path of just unbelievable tales and how it might connect with science and what we're able to see on our own visible spectrum and what we can use to enhance our visible spectrum. And maybe that's what caused their night vision terrors in Vietnam.

So it all comes together here, but man, this one was really, I remember like writing pages of notes when I was doing this episode and preparing for it. So I'm happy to bring it back out to the forefront and especially this Halloween time. Enjoy a spooky edition of UAP for Night Vision Terror in Vietnam. And we even get to reminisce here at the beginning with my old intro music. So enjoy. Yes, welcome in, but a long time since we've heard that music. Stephen Deiner back with you here on UAP, the Unidentified Alien podcast for this episode 78.

Yes, you heard that right. Not UAP weekly, not an interview. We're back to the classic episodes of UAP here. And so happy to be back doing this version of the show, you know, the storytelling version, the way that it all started. And don't get me wrong. I mean, if I could just kind of wax poetic here to begin, I love doing the interviews that I do and discussing current events on the weekly episodes.

I really do. I think it's been fantastic. But there's always something special about putting together episodes like this one, where it all began, you know, how it all started, where I sat at my kitchen table and would write these episodes. And so it feels good to finally be able to come back with a brand new full-length UAP episode for this episode 78. Long-awaited in my own head anyway. So hopefully you're looking forward to and excited about it.

too because today we are going to discuss some things that may change the way you look at the world around you because as they say perception is reality right we've heard that before but what if it's not what if there's more out there than what our eyes can perceive we're going to discover all that here today during this episode which i've entitled unseen realities but before we get there and into all of that. Of course, we've got to get into our factoid. Ladies and gentlemen, the factoid. Thank you to one of our listeners there. Mars for putting that together a while back now.

It's, man, it feels good to do a factoid again. It's nice to have one of these. But so I wanted to get to actually on this factoid, a little nugget that pertains to something that we experienced together on the date of April 8th. And that is, of course, the solar eclipse, right? We all saw it in one fashion or another. But the last time we spoke, I was kind of relating all types of different coincidences to you, involving the path of totality of the eclipse and how some theories were, you know,

predicting certain doom for the United States. And I went over all those. And of course, none of that happened. Everybody was fine and everything worked out just, you know, splendidly, really. But I had to at least point out all those little coincidences leading up to the big day. and it was kind of fun to consider as well, all those things. But that said, it was an absolutely beautiful site. And I can only imagine how incredible it was to see the total blackout when you were in that path of totality.

I don't know, maybe I'll go to Spain or Portugal for the next one. Apparently there's a eclipse. The next full eclipse that's coming down through Earth will be in 2026 through parts of Iceland into Spain and Portugal. Maybe I'll do that. I don't know. I would love to see it one day. but I also love seeing people coming together for at least one day in one moment because I watched a lot of the coverage on that day and I saw people celebrating just all different types of people, all different walks of life throughout cities in the United States. It was cool to see people coming together for something and to kind of gain that perspective together about our place in the galaxy and in the universe, really.

And one of those moments of clarity came for me personally when I read this piece of information, which is where the factoid comes in. The Earth is the only planet that we know of that has a perfect solar eclipse. Now, think about this. For any planet, you know, inhabitants of any planet to be able to see a total solar eclipse. One of the moons, in this case, our moon.

I don't, you know, some planets have several, but the moon and the sun have to be a certain size and distance away from each other and the observing planet, in this case, Earth, in order for that perfect shell. to happen. And what are the chances of something like that? I mean, when you put together all of the

planets and the stars and the galaxies throughout the universe, how did we get so lucky, really, to win like this intergalactic lottery to be able to witness something like that in the heavens above? So when you stop and think about it that way, it really does kind of put things to perspective, in my opinion, where you can say, you know what,

that's pretty special. We're pretty lucky to be able to see that. And speaking of how we perceive things, we'll use that segue to take us into today's subject. What if there was a whole world in front of our eyes that we are not able to see? Well, enter our first story and a man named Dr. Walter Kielner. Here's a little intro about him. In the 1920s, a scientist named Walter Kilner developed a technique that allowed people to see into the astro realm. He applied a blue dye called Dysianin onto a glass screen

and discovered that the dye blocked out most of the white light, enabling humans to see the aura of one another. All right, pretty cool, right? Nice little intro there and really amazing when you think about it, but getting a little bit deeper into Dr. Kielner, he was a prominent scientist in the early 1900s. He developed a blue dye that was to be used originally in photographic plates, and he called it Dysianin.

but during his work he made an unexpected discovery while he was working with these lenses. The clear lenses that he'd been using now gave off like this purplish, bluish, hue as he put the dicing and covered lenses over his eyes. When he did that, he realized that he was seeing things he hadn't seen before, namely the aura of one of his lab partners. He discovered that by blocking out the white light on the spectrum, the visible spectrum to us that he was able to see essentially into the astroplane. Now, I know that sounds kind of heavy, but consider this scientific fact here, okay?

Again, scientific fact, this is known that us humans see less than 1%, less than 1% of the known spectrum. Our vision is limited to the normal colors of, you know, the rainbow, if you will, I guess. But there's so much more on the spectrum, just for an example, in microwaves, radio waves, infrared. And according to what Dr. Kielner described, also an astroplane that was made visible to him through the Dysian-N lenses that he crafted. He was able to see this, this, you know, part of this spectrum that we can't see with our normal everyday eyes. Now, amazingly, he claimed in his journals that he was able to actually use these lenses to not only see auras, but to diagnose sickness and disease because he said that you could tell by the color and shape of someone's aura

if they were sick or healthy. He even published a book on it called The Human ORA and he detailed all these findings. Now for anyone who considers themselves, you know, a type of medium or is up on their, you know, holistic healing, this information probably doesn't come as a surprise to you. But at that time, this was really revolutionary stuff and so much so that the U.S. government supposedly shut down his research and banned the substance. The shocker, right? Something that could be really cool and help the world.

Why would we be able to use it? But that said, it did not stop the government from using the white light blocking technology for themselves. Because during the Vietnam War, they used these principles from Dr. Kilner to craft what turned in to be the first night vision goggles. And that takes us to our crescendo here. today, our second story that I call Vietnam Night Vision Terror. Here's how that begins. One of the projects that he was in charge of at the time was this technology that they introduced into Vietnam that almost brought the war to a standstill. This technology was a

night vision goggle, but as not night vision as we have it now, okay, because the night vision gogg was done in the red spectrum. Now, what you heard there was an interview with a man named Cliff High, and he was speaking about his father, who was a high-ranking member of the military during the time of the Vietnam War. And because of that, he was put in charge of overseeing a platoon that was using this new night vision tech. Now, it's important to note what he said there at the end of the clip where he mentioned

that the night vision was seen in the red spectrum rather than the green vision. rather than the green color that we know and recognize today. We've all seen videos of night vision goggles. Maybe you even used them before, and you see that, you know, greenish tint. Everything looks green. And that is because they were using, they had the red spectrum

because they were using the same Diccenae method that Dr. Kilner used to block the white spectrum, but with some variation, which gave the night vision its red color. Now, not to get too technical here, but how modern day night vision works just a little bit of a background. The way modern day night vision works

in kind of a nutshell is that they translate electrons into the green light spectrum. And the way that the red night vision worked then during the Vietnam War is that they used this same principle of translating electrons but into the red light spectrum instead while also using a photon-based system, which we don't use.

now for the green night vision goggles. Now don't ask me to explain any further because that's basically all I got for you. That's as much as I can understand. So we'll get back to Cliff High and his story here because obviously that was a little bit of a, no pun intended, cliffhanger on his first clip. So we'll get back into a little bit of what he's talking about, what his father experienced with these red night vision goggles and how this all kind of connects. My father was part of this initial experiment with the truth.

that he commanded. And it was a disaster because the image was presented in red pixels, not green. And because of the technology being used at that time, it created very interesting effects that they could not deal with. Okay. So effects they could not deal with. Obviously, they were using technology that they didn't fully have a grasp on yet. So what happened, right? Well, remember that we can only perceive so much as humans, like I said earlier, less than one percent of what's on the actual, you know, visual spectrum. So much like Dr. Kielner before them, where he had unexpected results and began to see this whole astroplane through the Dicinian glasses that, you know, that gave off that bluish, purplish

tint and opened up a new view of the spectrum for him. He was able to see the aura and everything like that. Unfortunately, the soldiers in Vietnam also had an unexpected effect from viewing things through the lens of the red spectrum while mixing the tech of night vision. but their experience was not a positive one, which is why I say, unfortunately. In fact, it was completely disastrous, and it drove them pretty much crazy,

like just absolutely mad, and they were experiencing nothing but sheer unadulterated terror and horror by viewing the world through these goggles. It's insane. It's really crazy stuff here. But there's one story here in particular that took place while they were flying along with other helicopters and it really paints a vivid picture of what they were claiming to see

and what was driving them to madness. I've never heard this stuff before, which is why I was so fascinated by this story and what it really, it kind of led me down a rabbit hole and down a path that I'm going to get to here once we're done with the story. Of all these questions, of all these possibilities that came into my mind, because I've never heard anything like this before where if you wear some type of certain goggle looking and through a part of the spectrum that this whole other part of the world can be visible to you. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all

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they almost took down one of the choppers beside them. Listen here, it's a little long, but paints a really good picture. And all of a sudden, in a very peaceful area, not anything going on at all, the gunner on his, on the starboard side of his helicopter, starts firing wildly at their height, not at anything on the ground, but in an area that he was shooting at and basically causing other helicopters in their little flotilla to have to react. And the kid is just sweating profusely, just in his eyes are just dilated beyond. belief and my dad thought he was dealing with another heroin addict but this was before it had gotten really bad in in Vietnam and the kid was not exhibiting those kind of symptoms he was reacting to what he had seen and he's describing to my father that he was shooting at these basically flying demons that were flying alongside the helicopter and he knew they were coming to get him because they were gesturing at him and they could see him and so he reacted and he started shooting his

Bren gun, you know, big 50 caliber slugs at these things, right? And they were flying along right next to the helicopter, so he's firing out directly from the helicopter, and there are other helicopters in the vicinity, so it caused all kinds of problems. And this goes on repeatedly, week after week after week, every time they try and use these night vision goggles, at some point, they encounter monsters, true monsters. All right, so lots of tackle. There are a lot to unpack, and we're going to try to unpack all of it here. But first off, obviously, terrifying, which is, you know, why I use the term night vision terror to name this story, because, I mean, could you imagine? Like, it's not bad enough that you're in the middle of war to

begin with, but then you're wearing these new night vision goggles, like, you know, the latest technology from the military, you're seeing through this red spectrum, and while you're dealing with the normal stresses of war, you're also dealing with seeing demons flying around and coming at you. And imagine how scared the other, you know, troops must have been in the other helicopters. Like, why is our own guy shooting at us? And apparently this was widespread. So I'm going to get to that because I want to kind of go back a little bit. You heard Cliff High say that, you know, his father was concerned. He was dealing with another soldier who was, you know, on drugs, on heroin, which became unfortunately a commonplace thing during the Vietnam War. But, you know, as you

heard him say, that wasn't really something that was that prevalent yet. So he couldn't, he didn't think it was that. He looked at the guy and could see, again, according to Cliff High and the story that his father tells him, he could see that the soldier was, was there. He was with it. He wasn't high and he was actually seen something. So if it was drugs, sure, it's a possibility, but, you know, all we can do is go based off of the description that they give. And Cliff High saying that his father was pretty positive that this soldier was not on drugs. Now, was it the madness of war? Sure, could be, right?

I mean, there's very few things as stressful as being in a war and being shot at and having to shoot at another person, so maybe they just started losing it, right? I mean, if we're going to look at possibilities here, if we're going to look for explanations outside of the paranormal and supernatural, then that would be one of the possibilities. Madness of war. Definite possibility. What about depression? You know, all these things that kind of go together, right? You're in the middle of a war. You're getting depressed. You start seeing things,

which takes us to hallucinations. I mean, maybe they were in such a depressed state, overtired. You know what I mean? You're just completely fatigued. You know, the conditions weren't the best during the Vietnam War. Conditions aren't great during any war, quite frankly. But especially during the Vietnam War, you know, the soldiers there were really struggling. fighting that war. So it's possible that it could have been all these things. Maybe some type of malnutrition, right? Maybe the soldiers weren't getting enough, you know, food and water. So fatigue, malnutrition, hallucinations, depression, madness of war. All these things could have played a part or pieces of each to bring about some type of, you know, hellish vision that in this particular story, and I stress this

particular story that this soldier was talking about and seen and shooting at while they're on the helicopter. But why the here's here's the thing that I wanted to come back to. If this was an isolated incident, then all of those things could absolutely be the answer. Drugs, you know, hallucinations, malnutrition fatigue, all that stuff, right? All of those things could be an answer if this is an isolated incident. But if you hear or if you heard, because it's... too long, not complained again, but if you heard

the clip there from Cliff High, where he says this was happening a lot. This wasn't an isolated incident. So if it's not isolated and it was widespread, if they were getting a lot of these reports from soldiers who were seeing these hellish visions of demons or these winged creatures with horns, so whatever you want to call them,

while wearing these goggles that open up the red spectrum to them, then it becomes very hard to explain and pin it on anything other than the paranormal or the supernatural or whatever this might be of opening up to a different plane of existence, a different plane of reality, such as Dr. Kielner did with his glasses, with the blue glasses. Now we have the red spectrum. Also, let me make one final observation with that story. It's important, I think, to point out that the reports of these visions were taking place only while the red night vision goggles were on. So if we go with some of the examples or possibilities that I came up with, whether it would be drug induced or, you know, fatigue or madness of war, these hallucinations, right?

if this was some type of whatever induced hallucination, why would that vision or hallucination only be there while the red night vision goggles were on? If it was some type of true mind trick, if their eyes or their mind were playing tricks on them, that would be happening whether or not the goggles were on or off. And according to that story, it was actually quite the contrary.

These visions would go away when the goggles were, were taken off. And these visions were seen by soldiers who were wearing these red night vision goggles, not while they weren't wearing them. That's according to the stories and to the reports anyway, of these happenings, including this main example here from the story that Cliff High tells. So really makes you wonder if they're only seeing these things while the night vision goggles were on, like the stories go, what the heck was going on?

That's not it, though. In case you were wondering, Cliff Hyde does go on to say that his father did actually eventually put the goggles on himself to try to see what his soldiers were seen. This, by the way, was against the orders from up on high, if you will, because the orders were that officers and pilots were not to put on these red light vision goggles. Interesting to say the least there. Did the, you know, the upper brass know something about these red night vision goggles that they didn't want the officers and the pilots wearing them? I mean, if that's the case, that's awful because then in that scenario you're basically just sacrificing, you know, the soldiers who are out there on the field fighting. But that didn't stop Cliff's dad because he had, he said things got so bad after a while that he had to go and put these goggles on himself. He had to see what his soldiers were describing.

He needed to see that if they were just losing their minds or if there was really something to this. So here's what happened when his dad finally decided to try these things on. And here's how Cliff High describes it. You'd look out at the tops of trees and you'd see these creatures with big wings and claws and everything come flying off at the tops of the trees. But you'd take the goggles off and there's not even a disturbance in the, the fog above the canopy of the trees, right? Because my father said that the single exposure,

and in terms of him that he would put on that one time, had an unsettling effect on him for several weeks afterward. And the people that wore the red goggles, the gunners, and these kind of people were unstable at best for months. Many of them were cycled right out of the war as a result of this experience. It's pretty, this story is amazing. And, you know, honestly, this was something that I had never heard of. Just up front, never heard of this story before up until about a month ago when I came across it. And I actually moved some things down my list that I want to cover here on UAP for future

episodes, you know, episode 79 and 80 and so on and so forth as I just try to, you know, put more of these out like I used to. But I had to move this one to the top of the list because I just, I found this so fascinating for so many reasons that I want to get to here now. And I want to note first that this project was ended after 60 days. I mean, things got so bad. The complaints, the reports, the events that were taking place with these soldiers became so incredibly disastrous that the U.S. military had to pull back from these

Red Night Vision goggles. And now, this sounds like a man of reputation. If you want to try to poke holes in the story and things like that, Cliff's father, I don't know Cliff High, I really don't know much about the man, you know, who was in the interview telling the story relating the story that his dad told him. I don't know much about him, but from the story he tells, his father sounds like a man of reputation, a man of honor, that if this story that Cliff is telling is true, it doesn't sound like something that his father would make up.

Like, why would you come home and tell your kid that you and your platoon were seeing demons flying in the air? That's not really something that I think, you know, dads would make up to their kids and go into detail and telling all these stories. And Cliff High is not the only man to have stories like this from people that they knew in Vietnam. There are stories out there like this of people who have used these Red Night Vision goggles. Now, it's not like you can go on the open market and buy these things right now because, like you said, they were disbanded, they were barred, they were discontinued. But I'm sure there are ways, and quite frankly, I don't really want to dig into the ways that you can possibly find any goggles that are left over. used this technology.

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That's shopify.com slash UAP. But we'll make some final connections here because what were they really seen, right? I mean, was it, was it demons? Or was it something else? Was it a mix of things? Were they, and I have to ask the question, were they seen some type of extraterrestrial and they didn't know how else to quantify it? And also, is it's active like that, right? So they're in, remember, they're in the middle of a war, right? War, suffering, there's killing, there's terrible suffering going on. When you have heightened activity like that, with, with, suffering and, you know, just being in despair, negative energy, as we commonly call it.

Would these things be heightened? Were they seen so much of these hellish visions through this red spectrum, through these red night vision goggles because of these heightened negative emotions, the bad energy, if you will? Maybe. And now, by the way, when the military did switch to the green night vision goggles, that changed everything. No more reports of demons flying through the air.

But interestingly enough, a lot of people using night vision goggles, the classic ones that we know now with the green vision on the green spectrum, a lot of people report seeing UFOs. Apparently, according to people who have used them just for recreational use, they say that they can quite frequently, if I could speak, quite frequently see UFOs in the sky, that they wouldn't be able to see otherwise. So if you're looking into the night sky with your naked eye,

you wouldn't be able to see these UFOs flying through. And for what people say who, you know, just recreational use are using night vision, they see UFOs a lot and quite clearly using these green night vision goggles and looking up into the sky. So that led me to another question. Again, all these questions popped into my head

as I started digging deeper into the story. And that's why I wanted to really do this and try to connect all this because a question that came into my head was do aliens see on this type of plane and spectrum? Are they or do they have more visibility on the spectrum than humans do? Again, we see about 1% less than 1% of the actual visual spectrum. Do aliens have a heightened sense on the spectrum. Is this how they're able to hide? Really, right?

I mean, because you talk about even a few days ago, as I record this, Elon Musk was asked, he's always asked about aliens. Elon Musk, you know, you talk about a guy who's building rockets to go to Mars and who owns a company literally called SpaceX. He's going to be asked about

aliens quite often. And he always gives the answer, which is, well, where are they? I haven't seen one. I haven't seen any hard evidence of one. That's his take. on it. I respectfully disagree with his take, but we can all have our opinion. But maybe that's a reason why. Do aliens have

access? Have they been able to tap in to the heightened sense of the visual spectrum that we do not have? And that's how they're able to really stay hidden for the most part. Like a cloaking device of some sort. If you

want to make a comparison to Marvel movies, you can think about how you know, Shield when Captain Nick Fury's ship is in the sky and they're using cloaking, right? No one ever sees it on the ground. I'm a nerd, I don't know. But what capability, too, this is another question that came into mind. What capability does the military have to actually communicate with entities through this type of tech and knowledge?

Because let's face it, if they were using Red Night Vision goggles during the Vietnam War, okay? That's a long time ago now, quite frankly. Then, and if they were getting these reports, these widespread reports of what soldiers were saying that they were seeing, you're telling me that the U.S. military and the government are just going to let that lie. Oh, hey, excuse me, five-star general. Yeah, our guys are saying they're seeing flying demons in the sky through this new night vision technology. So we're just going to shelve this and not use it anymore. No, we're going to explore this and try to use it to our advantage. That's exactly how it would go.

So you're telling me if the U.S. government found some way to peer into some type of unseen, you know, playing a reality that they wouldn't try to exploit that. Of course they would try to exploit that for their own gain and technology and weapons and things like that. And quite possibly for communications. So again, a question that came into mind when I was going through this. Is it possible that the governments or the military have used this type of technology, over the years to communicate with other entities, whatever those entities might be. And of course, again, using this type of technology for cloaking. Is that why, you know, sometimes UFOs disappear so quickly?

Of course, we have instantaneous acceleration. But when it comes to people, we always see the reports. It just disappeared. Where did it go? I was just looking at it and it's gone. Well, it's possible that these craft are able to, access different points on the visual spectrum that we cannot see. And that's how they're able to cloak.

It's really interesting. And then on the other end of things, do they come out of that cloaking on purpose? Is it an accident? You know, when we're seeing these UFOs, are they coming out of cloaking or maybe they're not cloaked at all? These are all just ideas I'm putting out there. But at some point, we're able to see these things on our own visible spectrum, or very limited visual spectrum,

which also begs the question, if that is the case, if we have been limited this entire time, well, we have been limited. It's not even an if, we have been limited this entire time. So is it possible if they're on a different plane, whether it's angels, demons, aliens,

other worldly entities, if they're on this other visual plane, have they been there the whole time? I mean, are aliens, and UFOs flying over us right now? Is there a UFO flying over me right now that I cannot see because of our limited spectrum

or limited capabilities on the spectrum? If I'm looking at the window right now as I'm talking to you, it could be there right now and I can't see it. And that just boggles my mind. But that could be a very real possibility. It's very possible that they have been able to access different levels of the spectrum that we can't see on.

So after relating all this to you here today, my main question has become, is it possible that there really is this whole other realm that is closed off to our vision? It is really that question that led me to write this episode in the first place. Because when you think about that and consider all the details given during this episode,

it really does make sense when you start to consider different planes of vision being the answer. And maybe that's more plausible than different planes of reality. Because we've heard the theory many times about interdimensional beings. David Grush has spoken about it in front of Congress, actually. Tom DeLong mentions it a lot when he's on different, you know, doing different interviews or anything that he's talking about with aliens, along with many other UFO theorists. I've mentioned it before when it comes to, you know, interdimensional beings. Are they able to cross through these different dimensions? But what if the answer is

quite literally been right in front of our faces this entire time. We've been looking for the explanations of where other life would come from. Are they traveling through space and time to get here? Or are they using that bending time space theory, right, that Einstein talks about, where you bend a piece of paper and you poke the pencil through, and that's how they're able to travel through space through that wormhole, essentially. Do they live among us in disguise, a la'a the 80s movie with Roddy Piper? they live. It's a wild movie you've never seen it before. And I couldn't help but to think of that movie when also writing this episode as he puts on the sunglasses and he sees who's, you know, around him who are aliens walking around him. And that movie was maybe in the 80s. So, you know, it makes you wonder, were they basing that off of something? I just, I can't shake this idea that there's quite literally an entire world right in front of our face that we can't see because of our limited spectral view.

view. And that freaks me out while also fascinates me at the same time. And if I may add one more final thought with all that in mind before we go here today, maybe it was simply God's plan that were built to see only 1% of the spectrum because anything else could lead us to sheer madness, much like the soldiers in Vietnam in that story that we were told today. But I can't help but to remain curious and be like, I want to try this stuff. I want to see what I guess. What I can't see what is out there. I'm not going to stop asking that question. I'm sure you will not either.

And there's many more questions to come on future episodes of UAP. I can't wait to write more of these episodes 79 will be on the way next week along with, yeah, that's right, 79 next week. It's not going to be four months in between full-length episodes. But along with an episode next week of UAP weekly, I'm going to be talking with a really special guest actually. His name is Dan Harari and he was actually introduced to me by Nick Pope

the last time Nick Pope and I spoke on UAP weekly we were kind of speaking off the air about some different things and he mentioned Dan's name to me. Dan is the head of the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance and also one of the main guys

with one of the biggest UFO alien conventions out there which is contact in the desert and that's coming up in May. So I got in touch with Dan, really cool guy, really fascinating guy, has a lot to talk about with their missions. They are at contact in the desert and with the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance. Believe it or not, there's a lot of people in entertainment who are in the same boat as you and I that want to get the stuff out there and have had experiences that they want to talk about.

So I'm going to be talking about that with Dan Harari next week, early next week, on UAP weekly. And then we'll also have a brand new full-length episode. of UAP. That's episode 79 that will come next week as well. A lot of UAP to come. A lot of stuff on social media too. That's going to be popping out there more often. You can follow along on Twitter, on YouTube, at UA Podcast 850, on TikTok as well. So a lot more videos and content will be coming out in a more consistent fashion. I like to think so.

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