UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP Weekly 11/15/23 Grusch vs Kirkpatrick & Other Pressing Matters

Episode Date: November 15, 2023

What happened between David Grusch and Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick? Did their back and forth ultimately lead to Dr. Kirkpatrick's downfall? There seems to be so much going on these days in the world... of UAP and maybe the most important thing of all is what is set to take place behind the scenes this week... Stephen Diener covers all that and more in this edition of UAP Weekly.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:49 There's a lot going on. There's no shortage of drama and stories and happenings going on right now in the UAP world. Even this close to the holiday season doesn't mean the UAP world slows down. So I'm going to do my best to make sense out of all of it and kind of lay it out all or as much as I can anyway, for you here today. And I actually want to start with something I kind of talked about last week, or I should say last time on UAP episode 75 on Bizarre Alien Encounters Part 1. I started off that episode with a factoid talking about Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick.
Starting point is 00:02:28 And in that factoid, I was mentioning how the Pentagon came out with a report, mentioning all these different sightings that they can't explain, almost 300 of them actually, from over the past few years. There are 17 cases from 2019 to 2022 that are still under investigation. Arrow has received 274 confirmed sightings from April 31st of 2022 through April 30th of this year. now April 31st doesn't exist so I'm not sure why they have that date in there 30 days has September April June and November so let's just call that May 1st how about that through April 30th and so you know that was kind of like the numbers that I threw out there during
Starting point is 00:03:18 that fact toy to start off episode 75 and I kind of wanted to expound on that a little bit as we begin because we are mainly focusing here today. on, I would say 95% focusing on the goings on between Dr. Shaw to Kirkpatrick and David Grush because Kirkpatrick is out. And even though he called those 17 additional cases I mentioned from 2019 to 2022 that are still on an investigation, he called those concerning was the word that he used because he mentioned that the objects exhibited flight characteristics that they could not really make out or understand. They talked about high-speed travel and unusual maneuverability,
Starting point is 00:04:07 you know, the measurable, so to speak, that Lou Elizando has mentioned, some of the things that really kind of stick out that make you think, huh, what the heck was that? And Dr. Kirkpatrick's take on that report was basically saying that he was concerned about the national security perspective of things. If these things are not ours, meaning United States, are they an ally, are they an adversary, or are they something else? And he acknowledged the fact that it could be something else. And he also acknowledged that basically it's, it is one of those things. And that came out in a report from the Hill, the publication of the Hill, that was the kind of making waves over the past few days that Kirkpatrick does at least acknowledge the fact that something is in our skies,
Starting point is 00:04:59 okay? And of course he does this on his way out. He's basically leaving at years end. And in 24, we will have a new head of the Arrow division. But he says he doesn't know, again, if whatever this is in our skies that we can't understand or don't know, he doesn't know if it's adversarial or something else. This even within the past couple of days, good. goes to a light that was seen in Montreal that they can't explain. Excuse me, not Montreal, Minnesota, too many M's there to remember. But that happened, there was a light. If you didn't see this video, maybe I can retweet it on the UAP Twitter at UA Podcast 850.
Starting point is 00:05:41 You can check that out. I'll repost that there. And you can see this light that kind of streaked across the sky. And even NASA has said that they have confirmed it's not a meteor. So nobody knows what that is. So these are things that are being seen all the time. These are things that are being reported. And even at this point, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick has to come out and say, yeah, there's something
Starting point is 00:06:02 going on and we just don't know what it is. Now, whether or not he's being truthful is kind of what brings us to our whole point here of why he's leaving because that's where you kind of have this Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick versus David Grush that kind of came about that made people say, you know what, that's the final straw with Kirkpatrick because he's not telling us everything. He's saying he doesn't know what these things are, but he can tell us that there is something in our skies. And that doesn't really help. That's not what people are kind of looking for. And so his statement here, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, goes on to say that he was basically planning. And this kind of feels like he, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:06:45 this kind of feels like covering your obfut type of thing. But he says, when I took the job, I promised going in that I would do a year and they would reevaluate. I have decided to stay on until towards the end of this year, 2023, because there's a couple more things I need to finish. Now, he mentions David Grush here, and this is where the fight kind of starts, where this was kind of the downfall of Dr. Kirkpatrick, which in my opinion kind of led to him having to announce
Starting point is 00:07:13 that he's stepping down at the end of this year because there was a lot of backlash here. He says, David Grush is a unique instance and that he has refused to come and share any of his information. He says, we still can't get him to come in. I've got five different people who have gone to talk to him to get him to come in. Kirkpatrick continues, he says, and the answers have always been everything from we're not clear to hear it, or it would jeopardize his whistleblower protections.
Starting point is 00:07:41 They've also said, according to Kirkpatrick, why can't we just go get the information that he shared from the inspector general? he says it's every excuse that they keep getting why David Grush is not coming in to speak to Arrow and to Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick. He says that's been a challenge because now here we are. We're about to put out volume one of the historical review. He says, I believe that's going to capture most of all the people that he's spoken with, but he can't say that 100% because I can't hear what David Grush thinks. If he has evidence, I need to know what that is.
Starting point is 00:08:16 and basically what's happened here in this war of words between David Grush and Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick is David Grush says that none of that has happened and that's the problem. Grush has come out and said that he hasn't, you know, been asked to come in and he hasn't, you know, basically been pursued by Grush and he's tried to go in there. So you kind of have like a he said, he said type of thing going on and no one really knows what's happening. most people believe David Grush. Not many people believe what Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick has to say, which has kind of led to, again, his downfall. He was under a lot of heat to begin with, right?
Starting point is 00:08:58 And I even spoke to Nick Pope about this, who, of course, was the former head of, you know, the British Ministry of Defense kind of in the same type of position as Dr. Kirkpatrick is an arrow, that, you know, governmental position. You're leading this department investigating UFOs and UFO claims. And, you know, when I was talking to Nick Pope about that, of course, from ancient aliens as well, he said he kind of has sympathy for Dr. Kirkpatrick, because he kind of understands some of the plights that he's in where maybe he wants to say more, but he can't. But it seems like a lot of people are basically calling him a flat out liar in some cases,
Starting point is 00:09:38 especially when it comes to he versus Grush. and a lot of people are taking David Grush's side. And if, you know, look, if Grush is saying that, you know, what Kirkpatrick is saying isn't true about, you know, whether or not how they've spoken or if they haven't spoken, who is pursuing who, there's just, there's just too much of surrounding him now to where it's just not constructive anymore for him to be the head of the Arrow Division. And that's what's kind of led to this change, in my opinion,
Starting point is 00:10:07 as I observe all of this drama taking place from afar. I will say this though, just in a kind of like a parting shot to that, you know, that scenario there, the events taking place with Dr. Kirkpatrick. I do believe that report that came out of the hill a few days ago where he did at least acknowledge something's happening in our skies, but we're just not sure what it is. I did think that was significant just to kind of reiterate that. We've heard the Pentagon kind of put out a report like that, you know, a couple of years ago. that they can't explain, which is why they came up with the Aero Division in the first place. But to continue to kind of put that word out there, remind people, hey, there is something going on.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Just to put out that reminder, I thought at least that part was pretty significant over the past few days, at least in my opinion. So what can we expect moving forward here? Well, according to reports, at least, you know, as far as leadership is concerned in Arrow, it looks like that Dr. Cookpatrick's deputy, Tim Phillips, will be heading the division. We'll see how long that lasts if that is an interim-based thing
Starting point is 00:11:15 or if he's going to stay there maybe for the next year or so. We'll see how his tenure and how long that lasts. But I want to kind of go back to a few days ago last week actually on November 8th because something pretty big is going on Capitol Hill.
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Starting point is 00:14:22 That was the day when a new amendment was passed by the House Oversight Committee, and that is going to allow, finally, David Grush to regain his security clearance and release top secret info that he knows to members of Congress. Now, that has been the ongoing fight ever since his, you know, appearance in front of Congress back during the summer. He kept mentioning, well, if we can get into a skiff, I can tell you more. That has been the fight over the past, what, for three or four months somewhere here and there. So I want to go back here to on November 8th when a man named Eric Burleson, representative from his Missouri finally put this amendment on the floor.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Here's what he had to say. Here's how he got this one passed. I rise in support of this amendment, which would increase slash decrease funding to express that the Office of Personnel Management should renew the security clearance of David Grush. We need to cover all possible angles here. And if we can get Mr. Grush in a skiff with an active security clearance, that would go a long way. This amendment simply expresses the support for the Office of Personnel Management to renew the security clearance of David Grush so that he can show us his work.
Starting point is 00:15:41 And so here's the bottom line. The fact is that there are some Congresspeople who are still pushing for this. Of course, we know Tim Burchett and Annapolina Luda and Jaron Moskowitz and even Matt Gates has talked about this. Well, Representative Burleson is the one who really kind of, you know, put this motion on the table on the, you know, these. Senate Committee floor there and tried to get this passed. And well, here's, here's how it went. Gentlemen, yields, questions on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Missouri. Those in favor say aye. Those opposed no. In the opinion of the chair of the eyes, have it. The amendment is agreed to. And just like that, David Grush got his security clearance restored. It was as simple as that.
Starting point is 00:16:22 And so it's just fascinating to me because, like I said, there are, the push hasn't stopped, even though it's frustrating, you know, we keep hearing different things that kind of get us excited. Like, oh, you know, there's going to be a skiff. They're going to talk about this and that and this person's going to be in there and this person's going to be listening. And then nothing happens. And the thing has been, and even David Grush has come out to talk about this, if he can get his security clearance restored, which is nuts to begin with, because it never really expired, then he could, you know, officially go into the skiff and talk to different representatives
Starting point is 00:16:56 and mention the things that he wanted to mention. That's why this is significant, because when you go back again to that moment in the summer when he testified in front of Congress where he said he would be happy to name names, locations of where the secret tech and bodies are hidden within that secured meeting, aka the skiff. Now he can actually do that.
Starting point is 00:17:24 So that's why that step there, and it is, you know, a first step to make, basically making that happen. Maybe, you know, whatever you wanted to describe as the first step, maybe the congressional hearing was the first step. But the fact of the matter is, this ball has been slowly, very slowly rolling, and it's hit a lot of different obstacles. And finally it cleared an obstacle this past week where now David Gresh is going to be able to sit in a secure location. in a skiff and finally give some type of information to those who have been looking to find out this information.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Now, there is something else, though, before we get to that point, on Thursday, November 16th, which if you're listening to this right now, that is tomorrow, because as I do this, it is Wednesday, November 15th, a meeting is going to take place on the 16th between the intelligence community inspector general, the ICIG, with various members of Congress. Now, David Grush will not be at that meeting. But guess who will? The man you just heard a little while ago fighting for Grush to regroup his security clearance, that is Representative Eric Burleson from Missouri.
Starting point is 00:18:38 He was on News Nation within the past couple of days, actually, and he did a pretty good interview, I thought. And this was one part that I found fascinating, where he kind of talked about what he wants to have happen in this meeting. What is what is he expecting to happen? What does he want to have happen? Let's hear from him. I think that if we can get some specifics,
Starting point is 00:19:04 some specific information about what programs that he was referring to, where the locations of these devices are, where the bodies are. So I just want the specifics. I am told that Grush has signed a release to allow for his report. to the IG to be released. It is uncertain whether they're going to give us the actual copy of the report or let us
Starting point is 00:19:32 read it in the SCIF or whether they're just going to get us a summary. I'm afraid it's the latter. I'm afraid that they're just going to try to give us a summary, which is not going to be acceptable in my book. I want to see the document. Well, we all want to see the document.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Unfortunately, we're all not able to have that type of information and lay down in front of us. But I mean, I'll be honest, Burleson doesn't sound too hopeful there, which kind of, you know, it's kind of a downer for me, really, because you want something significant to take place. And it feels like this was a big step to making something significant happen, where Grush can now name names and things of that nature. But, you know, when he says, Grush gives his authority, well, why wouldn't he, right? If he wants to come out and give this information, he should give authority to the inspector general to release some of this information that he's given to.
Starting point is 00:20:24 to the IG and release that to the congresspeople who are going to be in this, you know, secure meeting in this skiff that is supposed to take place on November 16th. Now, if there is a runaround, though, as, you know, Representative Burleson does sound skeptic. Again, to be fair, he was skeptic as well during the congressional hearing, but he just wants more answers. He wants more details. And I can't blame him for that, right? I mean, we all want the details behind the claims.
Starting point is 00:20:50 I understand that. but he's kind of sounding like, you know, maybe we're going to get the runaround. So what would be the point of that, I guess is my question. What would be the point of having the runaround? Why go through all this trouble just to send, you know, the inspector general that you've given the information to and just to kind of, you know, give the same type of answers. Well, then let's get Grush in there, right? Now, I'm hopeful. Maybe they are going to hear new things and that leads to David Grush coming in to speak.
Starting point is 00:21:21 with the different representatives. Because, you know, you heard Representative Burleson say there, he wants to be told the details about the stuff that Grush brought up during the congressional hearing when it comes to the bodies, when it comes to the aircraft, when it comes to where these things are being held. But hypothetically speaking, why wouldn't Grush come in for a meeting in a skiff? I mean, isn't that what he's been waiting to do this entire time? He says he has.
Starting point is 00:21:46 He says he'll do it. Representative Burleson was asked that question. If he feels someone behind the scenes is trying to conceal the truth from Congress and maybe actively stonewalling them, maybe that would be the scenario here. Here's how he responded to that. I haven't seen anything that's compelling me to believe that they're trying to deny us access. Now, to a certain extent, we have, we've gotten information from the IG. We have, we have gotten, obviously, the testimony of the whistleblower, David Grush. and hopefully they'll be able to give us access to his report,
Starting point is 00:22:26 and hopefully they'll be able to allow us to bring him in into the skiff. But if we continue, if, for example, they don't allow us to see the report. They don't allow us to have access to bring crush into a skiff. Then I'm going to start raising alarms that something has been being hidden from Congress. All right. So it sounds like, honestly, we could be at a crossroads on the 16th. It sounds to me that, you know, this meeting, that is going to take place has an enormous amount of importance really kind of hanging in the
Starting point is 00:22:56 balance here because it depends on what they hear. I mean, if someone like Representative Burleson is not satisfied with what they're hearing, if they're not getting the details, if they're not being read in to the report, then they're going to feel like, well, what are we doing here? What is the point? Are you guys giving us the runaround? Or is there someone behind the scenes that is essentially just trying to spin our wheels? And that is going to be the question that we have to look for the, you know, kind of look for the answer once we see this meeting take place. How will this progress, you know, tomorrow being Thursday, November 16th? How will this progress into Friday and into the weekend and even leading into the Thanksgiving holiday? Are we
Starting point is 00:23:38 going to hear more about, you know, this skiff having some type of significant meaning to it in the end? And that will lead to a meeting with David Grush. We'll see you. Definitely going to keep an eye on it. It's fascinating. It feels like we are coming to a crossroads, though, when it comes to getting grush in front of these people and giving them the details that they're looking for. It would be absolutely huge. And I'm not the only one, actually, who thinks that because there are other prominent names who are out there giving their opinion on what this all means in this whole situation and the importance of it. Because even just within the past few days, Jeremy Corbell appeared on the news with Chris Cuomo and spoke about this. situation. Here was his opinion on the whole deal as it stands. He sounds pretty excited.
Starting point is 00:24:27 It's the new beginning. David Gresh stepped forward and remember, he came to me and George Knapp when before any of this, before the public knew his name and he was worried because of the reprisals coming at him. I can tell you, I have personally talked with more than a handful of individuals with direct witness knowledge of these programs and they do want to come forward and I'll tell you this, people have come forward. So who else has come forward, right? I mean, Now, we can talk about, you know, of course, Michael Herrera is someone who's come forward. Now, he hasn't been on the congressional stand, but he's made some pretty incredible claims right here on this show and on other outlets. And of course, you know, Ryan Graves and David Fravor, and there's been other names who have come out to speak about these things.
Starting point is 00:25:11 But who else is behind the scenes? Who still might come forward? When will we hear from them? Will, you know, the departure of Dr. Kirkpatrick make, people feel more comfortable with speaking to arrow and coming forward and coming out, you know, publicly as whistleblowers? Well, is David Grush going to give more details, going to inspire more people like him to come out and speak in public?
Starting point is 00:25:36 Maybe. Here's what Jeremy Corbell had to say about it. The subpoenas are coming. That's the deal. Getting Grush in there, he's going to name names. The subpoenas are coming. Well, and that's the other part of this, right? Not only who else could come out and talk as far as a public whistleblower.
Starting point is 00:25:51 is concerned. But what could it mean with David Grush if he gets into that skiff with the congressional members to give the details, the names, the dates, the locations of where craft and bodies are being kept, where reverse engineer technology is being, you know, worked on on a regular basis. The black sites, so to speak, that I just spoke about with Michael Herrera, where he says, you know, even he's speaking to an insider and, has gone to the black sites. So all of this is happening behind the scenes, and it's fascinating because if David Grush is able to go and give details
Starting point is 00:26:31 in that secure setting, it could lead to subpoenas. But then the question is, how serious will Congress then take this? There's two ways you can go. You can say, Congress says, oh, my gosh, this is insane. You are actually backing up all of your claims. and, you know, company A, A, B, and C and location A, B, and C actually has these things, and this is going to change everything.
Starting point is 00:26:54 So we have to subpoena, you know, names X, Y, and Z to get this out in the open and have oversight. Or will they go the other way and say, thanks for your time, David, thanks for the information. We're just going to take it from here and we'll handle it. And by handle it, meaning it's too much to put out into the open and they're going to sweep it under the rug and try to maybe do things behind the scenes that would create some type of oversight.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I don't know. You know, again, these are all things that remain to be seen. Now, that second one frustrates me because that's what we've seen over the past, you know, 80 years as far as cover-ups and concealing and lies and deceit is concerned. But, you know, we keep saying if, if, if, when it comes to David Grush, you know, actually speaking to those in Congress, there is word out there that he has told people he is going back to D.C.
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Starting point is 00:30:22 Is the timing of all this an intentional distraction? I hate to say that. Intentional by who, I'm not sure. But if we're talking about a significant movement in the disclosure department here and it's going to be happening during the holiday season, how many people are going to be paying attention to it at that point? That's kind of my concern behind it. Now, I will be paying attention to it,
Starting point is 00:30:47 and I will do my best to follow it and give you all the details as things happen, if anything happens. But it just, I don't know, I just, the timing of all this has we come into the holiday season is kind of curious for me. But man, just to go back real quick to what Jeremy Corbell said there, how sweet would that be? How juicy is that to think about subpoenas for some of these, you know, names, these black site projects or whoever it might be to get people in there to answer questions
Starting point is 00:31:16 who are actually at the head of some of these companies and, you know, these private companies and things like that. It would, uh, ooh, that would be, that would be a game changer for sure, which is why I guess he mentioned, you know, kind of being like a new beginning with all this. But, you know, actually on that note, what did David Grush have to say about some of these things when it comes to government coverups and private companies? He was recently doing an interview and I found this pretty intriguing. He kind of mentioned, he puts it all together, I guess I should say, when it comes to the secrecy surrounding this issue and how and why it works. And it does kind of go all the way back to the Manhattan Project when we talk about
Starting point is 00:31:58 government secrecy and private companies. Here's what David Grush actually had to say about some of these things. Yeah, there's certainly been private corporations involved. you know, both, you know, federally funded research and development centers and for-profits, companies that have contracted with the U.S. government over the years. Like I mentioned in other interviews, the U.S. government overlaid the Manhattan Project secrecy, personnel, you know, generally what elements were involved corporately and governmentally in that, to Atomic Energy Commission, which, you know, morphed into Department of Energy, nuclear regulatory commission later.
Starting point is 00:32:40 So a lot there. I mean, when you talk about, you know, the Department of Energy, how things kind of morphed and it kind of all connects to, you know, the nuclear secrets. That's how they're able to basically justify
Starting point is 00:32:55 the cover-up, the overall cover-up, dating back to the Manhattan Project. This level of secrecy we're dealing with a lot, there's a lot on the line in the coming weeks and in the months. I would say, you know, what kind of developments could we see? If Grush testifies in this GIF, it could blow open a lit of secrecy that has been sealed for nearly 80 years.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I mean, when you think about it, will that be allowed to happen, though? Because when you talk about these private corporations, there's a lot of money involved. And when you talk about the way they've done things for the past 80 years with kind of using that loophole of, well, it ties back to, you know, nuclear secrets and atomic secrets. And that's how the Department of Energy ends up getting involved. And they could be a main player here. I know a lot of people have suspected that for a long time, and it does make sense. When you think about how that's, you know, atomic energy commission kind of rolled into the Department of Energy. It makes sense that a lot of this stonewalling could be coming from there or even government, you know, cooperation behind the scenes with black side operators could be coming from there.
Starting point is 00:33:56 So if that's the case, will this lit of secrecy even be, again, allowed to be blown off when it comes to anything that David Grusher or any other whistleblower has to say, how much is going to, to be able to come out into the public. That is the golden question. That has been the golden question. I really do feel like we're kind of out of crossroads with some of this information and naming names and things of that nature, possible subpoenas, and some of this information, you know, coming out. It's seeping out.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And there's always so much you can do to contain it, I think, in my opinion, as time goes on. I guess one of the main questions, too, would be how much is David Grush willing to reveal? You know, he mentioned in, you know, another recent interview, actually that same interview that you heard that clip there where he talked about the Manhattan Project. He was asked about the number of bodies. Remember him talking about the biologics when he was testifying in front of Congress? Well, he says in that interview that he will publicly reveal more details about the non-human bodies recovered, said he would do that at a later date. Now, we talk about, you know, in the public. Now, will he reveal that in his skiff sooner rather than later? because he also talks about number of bodies being in the double digits.
Starting point is 00:35:11 He says that we have double digits when it comes to the number of alien bodies that we have recovered. He talks about different morphologies, different states. Do we have live aliens? I mean, of course, that has been a theory over many, many, many years, you know, that we're even working with different species of aliens, you know, an underground basis. Those have been things that people have spoken about. when you have a guy like David Grush coming out and saying that we have, you know, alien bodies that number in the double digits in different states,
Starting point is 00:35:45 could one of those states be living? I mean, that could, my gosh, it's just wild. Like that might be some type of, you know, confirmation when it comes to, you know, mind-blowing detail or, you know, that could be confirmed, something that we've been speculating about that could be confirmed. There's so much more to come, I believe, on what. David Grush is going to say in public and what he is going to say privately behind closed doors, hopefully in a skiff in front of congressional members.
Starting point is 00:36:15 And also the bottom line is it's going to be with a different head of the Arrow Division because there was just too much button of heads going on with Dr. Shankirkpatrick. So that is another hopeful thing to see how things kind of progress now that there's going to be new leadership and now that Grush has the security clearance back and he's able to go in and talk about these things. A lot to keep an eye on, like I said, in the coming weeks, the coming months. I have a feeling 2024 is going to be pretty wild with more details coming out. And speaking of pretty wild, before we go here today, I did mention there were some other pressing matters that I wanted to get to real quick, because believe it or not,
Starting point is 00:36:56 there were more details that came out when it came to, yes, the alien mummies that were presented at the Mexican UAP hearings because they did have a second hearing. I don't know how many people paid attention to this, but they did have a second hearing just about a week ago. And during that hearing in Mexico, they mentioned, one of the witnesses mentioned that when it comes to the alien mummies, they said 11 prestigious scientists have signed a letter confirming the authenticity of alien bodies in Peru.
Starting point is 00:37:30 And they showed more pictures of what looked like these. different alien mummies, kind of like in a sitting position, arms folded over their knees. It's pretty wild. Then they show cat scans and x-rays at this congressional hearing. They had researchers come out who declared, they say, an authentic set of three-fingered Peruvian mummies recently presented as potential evidence of non-human life forms. They didn't, I guess, certify that the remains were extraterrestrial, but they did, authenticate. They say that they authenticated them as actual beings.
Starting point is 00:38:09 And that has kind of been the, I guess, you know, questioned the whole time. Are these things even real bodies? And according to these officials, they're saying they are real. And they testified to that in front of the, you know, Mexican Congress at this second congressional hearing that they had about a week ago. It didn't really hit the news as much as the first one did. But, you know, at that hearing, it was pretty.
Starting point is 00:38:34 interesting to hear them say that yeah these bodies are real but the question continues to be what are they so more speculation while also kind of getting answers at the same time i know that's kind of an oxymoron there but that that's that is the situation that we find ourselves in here today we have to take everything that we can get while still saying but there's still more to find out speaking of which the last thing i wanted to mention here today because like i said there's a lot to unfold um but just quickly i wanted to mention this This new picture that came out. Actually, Jeremy Corbell put it out.
Starting point is 00:39:08 You know, I mentioned him here earlier in the show today. This weird-looking UFO, UAP, whatever you want to call it, like a corkscrew looking thing that according to the reports, this was like an interaction that took place, a violent interaction that took place between British fighter jets and this UAP drone, we don't know. there are varying reports that say that the fighter pilots fired at this craft in 2021 over Syria that they may have recovered the craft or that nothing happened to it at all.
Starting point is 00:39:48 There's a lot of varying reports with this. I know so I can't give a lot of details on it because it is news. So I don't want to like come out and just sound like I don't know what I'm talking about. But in this thing, it's just a weird looking craft. just wanted to mention basically that I know it's out there. If you've seen the reports on this thing, if you've seen the pictures, I honestly don't know what it is. I've never seen it craft look like this thing before.
Starting point is 00:40:13 If you don't know what I'm talking about, I'll retweet that as well on the UAP Twitter at UAP Podcast 850. So like I said, a lot going on. Sorry to, you know, fill up your head here today with so many things, but just trying to keep it in front of me so I can give you everything that I know is happening and kind of presented it in a way where I hope it makes sense. But all that said, that'll do it for me here today on this edition of UAP weekly. I'm also keeping an eye on the continued events or unfolding in Peru.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Maybe some more updates on that coming up in the future. I spoke to Timothy Albarino a little bit on Twitter. We're trying to coordinate schedules and actually half him on the show here because he went down to Peru and investigated in person, got in front of, you know, what's happening and spoke to the locals there. looking forward to having him on at some point. I'll keep you updated on when Timothy Albarino might be on the show here as we try to coordinate schedules and get him on.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Obviously, he's a very busy guy. But also, of course, you can keep up with all the latest that is going on right there. Like I said, on Twitter at the UAP account there, UAE podcast 850 on Twitter and on all the social media, TikTok, YouTube, all that good stuff. It's the same name, UA Podcast 850. You can also shoot me an email if you like. S-D-N-R-U-A-P, that's S-D-I-E-N-E-O-E-E-O-E-E. are uap at gmail.com any questions concerns or comments that you want to throw my way feel free or even
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