UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP Weekly 12/18/23 - UFO Mania! Recapping a Wild Week in Disclosure

Episode Date: December 18, 2023

What a week! David Grusch, Tucker Carlson, Chuck Schumer, and more had a lot to say when it comes to the existence of aliens and how the government and those in power continue to cover it up.... Stephen Diener recaps all the big statements that were made, including some that flew under the radar. For example, did you know that a retired Rear Admiral from the Navy admitted that we are not alone? We discuss all that and so much more on this jam packed episode of UAP Weekly...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:27 Investing involves risk, including possible loss of principal investment advisory services provided by Wealthfront Advisors LLC and SEC registered investment advisor. Yes, welcome in to UAP Weekly. I'm Stephen Deiner back with you here on the Unidentified Alien podcast Weekly edition and what I call UFO mania. My gosh, over the past week or so, the amount of interviews and quotes and happenings that have taken place where just so much made my head spin. And what I wanted to do was kind of put it all together here for you today in one nice, neat package. And hopefully it all makes sense as we go through everything that has happened. Like I said, over the past seven days plus with, you know, names like Tucker Carlson, David Grush, Senator Chuck Schumer, amongst others. Some new names who have thrown their names into the hat here of discussions of disclosure and what they've seen and what they know.
Starting point is 00:02:34 and these are big names too that if you haven't heard I will introduce you to those then they all had something to say and like I said we're going to cover it all right here put it all together one nice neat package for Christmas maybe if you will since we're a week away from Christmas
Starting point is 00:02:50 as I record this right now but I do have a question about all of this everything as it pertains to I guess the overall discussion the overall conversation and I'm going to ask that question at the end But first, we're going to start with the interview that took place with David Gresh.
Starting point is 00:03:10 It seems like with these David Gresh interviews, by the way, with Joe Rogan, that just dropped, right? That was a surprise. It wasn't advertised. No one talked about how it was going to happen beforehand. And everybody was like, oh, wow, this is great. And it's kind of the same thing that happened with this Tucker Carlson interview as well. All of a sudden, that dropped out in nowhere. And everyone's like, whoa, whoa, there's an interview with Tucker Carlson.
Starting point is 00:03:34 David Grush, okay, we got to kind of dig into this. Now, this was over an hour long, so I'm not going to be playing like the whole interview or anything, kind of like with David, where he was on with Joe Rogan. You know, that was like, I think over two hours long. So what I wanted to do is just touch on some of the main points and also, like I said, going to a lot of other things that happened over the past week or so. But to kind of set it up here with this discussion between Tucker Carlson and David Grush on this first, you know, first nugget, I suppose, of UFO mania.
Starting point is 00:04:07 This was interesting. Outside of the interview with David Grush, Tucker Carlson did his own interview with a different show and they talked about the UAP discussion. And this is what Tucker Carlson, a guy who, you know, was part of the mainstream media kind of broke away or got fired, I guess, whatever you want to say, does his own thing on Twitter now. and this is what he had to say on a different show when they were talking about this.
Starting point is 00:04:36 So this is where Tucker lands in this whole discussion even before getting into it with David Grush. There are parts of that story that I do not understand at all that are really, really, really dark. It's so dark that I, you know, haven't told my wife about it. There's a spiritual component there that I don't fully understand.
Starting point is 00:04:54 So, yes, that story bothers me. So, yeah, that was a clip that got a lot of attention if you hadn't heard it before. You know, we talked about the disturbing stuff, the dark stuff, and, you know, something he hasn't even told his wife. Now, let me also say, I get it. Okay, Tucker Carlson, as a person in his views and things like that, not everybody agrees with him or the things that he says.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I'm not here to debate that. I'm not here to talk about that. I'm here having a discussion about UAP, UFO, and everything having to do with what's being spoken about, you know, in the major. interviews and how it's being presented to us. And right now, Tucker Carlson is a guy who is in the middle of that discussion. So I'm not here to debate whether or not you like him or like his views. You can talk amongst yourselves with that. This is a bigger picture type of thing here today, okay? But when you talk about, you know, the disturbing stuff, things that are too dark, a spiritual
Starting point is 00:05:52 connection, those are all things that we've brought up before. You know, what type and probably I think the My favorite episode that I have ever presented that I've ever prepared and done was episode 74 of UAP with the tears of Jimmy Carter, religion versus disclosure. Because I spoke a lot about that with the spiritual connection and how these two things intertwine. Is there a good versus evil when it comes to this type of stuff? And maybe, you know, is that what Tucker is getting at? You know, when he says he knows about some dark, disturbing things. are we talking about things that David Grush has kind of gone into. When it comes to people getting killed over this secret, cover-ups and things like that.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Does it go more to discussions that I've had with Michael Herrera? Where Michael Herrera talks about, you know, people who are taken some, maybe not necessarily against their will from the last time for what he was told us, but, you know, where they're taken into these programs and, you know, they use psychic abilities to call on aliens or bring them down and then these companies shoot down the UFOs. Like that's stuff that Michael Herrera told us that he's been seen firsthand is what is what he told me last time we spoke. So there is dark and disturbing things.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Of course, the spiritual connection. Are we talking about some type of demonic connection to some type of alien or an interdimensional being? You know, there's all these questions, right? So that was one thing that a lot of people were speaking about was that clip there from Tucker Carlson because, you know, some people freak out and they say, well, what is you talking about? Is it? Is it too much of a paradigm shift? Is it too much for people to handle?
Starting point is 00:07:38 Is that why, you know, the government doesn't disclose some of these things? Well, we'll get into some of those questions later on too. But it was a pretty interesting quote. That is for sure. But, you know, again, I think it's some of the things we've already spoken about when it comes about. when we talk about dark and disturbing. Or maybe there's things that we don't even know. You know, alien abduction, things like that.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I don't know. But when it comes to the interview with David Grush, again, they covered a lot of ground. It was over an hour. But this, I want to start here with what David Grush had to say with Tucker Carlson. Because it's so cut and try. It's so plain and simple. And I know it's easier set than done.
Starting point is 00:08:22 But this is, we talk about it. about catastrophic disclosure a lot, right? We hear that term. Catastrophic disclosure. What does that mean? What would that look like? What about basic disclosure? Here's David Grush on the idea of basic disclosure. I think there needs to be, you know, a call it a truth and reconciliation process. You know, we're not here to shackle people, but I'm here, you know, it's time to reconcile this. We need to heal from this. You know, we need to disclose the basics. the fact that we're not alone. We've recovered material
Starting point is 00:08:57 and we've recovered the occupants. Okay, so not alone, recovered material and recovered the occupants. That's basic disclosure, right, in the eyes of David Grush, which I think is fair because those are all things that have been talked about for decades and portrayed in movies.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I mean, I don't think that would people be a little freaked out at first. I'm sure there'd be a segment of the population that would be like, oh my gosh, I never thought this was true. What does this mean? My whole life is a lie. You know, you're going to have those people no matter what.
Starting point is 00:09:29 But I think for the most part, if we had that type of basic disclosure, we're not alone. We've recovered, you know, the craft and we recovered occupants. If we talk about those three things, I don't think you're going to have that much of a paradigm shift where the world is just going to implode on itself. I think most people who are in on this conversation understand that those things are more than likely happening. And I think he, it's an interesting quote where he says, you know, like a truth of reconciliation type of thing where we turn the corner and, you know, and we can be told, okay, yes, this is true.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Here's what's true about it. We're not going to tell you everything yet, but here's the basic disclosure. And I think that would be a good place to start because in a separate interview with News Nation actually. David Grush really made the rounds actually over the past week or so. Not only with Tucker Carlson, but with News Nation, like I said, he made some waves on there by saying he was actually given clearance to speak on the firsthand knowledge that he has. So this is, this kind of flew under the radar because of the Tucker Carlson interview,
Starting point is 00:10:43 but nevertheless, it was still a pretty big statement. And this is what he had to say when he was asked about people who say that they don't believe him because he never reveals his firsthand knowledge. And I'm going to go into this a little bit more, but first here is his quote. Well, I couldn't be very upfront about my firsthand knowledge until recently I got some other security approvals through the pre-publication and security review process. And I did have some firsthand knowledge of some specific parts of the program. I'm currently drafting an op-ed that I'm going to release in a few weeks and I will be discussing what I actually do know firsthand.
Starting point is 00:11:21 All right, so that was kind of a bombshell, right? So there's two things here. Number one, we're going to get an op-ed from David Grush talking more in detail about his first-hand knowledge. So that's pretty big. So we're going to start off 2024 with a bang, it sounds like. And we'll see if and when it comes out. But he says, you know, that's something that's going to come out in a few weeks. So you would think sometime maybe, you know, after the new year, maybe the first week of the year.
Starting point is 00:11:44 We'll see how that all pans out. But it's worth noting that he made those comments. before responding to a recent criticism from Neil deGrasse Tyson and Alvi Loeb. Both of them talking about how they need to see or hear the first-hand knowledge from David Grush. They need to hear more detail from him. They need to hear all the things that he's seen or have been told. And I don't have this sound, but David Crush said, look, I'm not looking to go to jail here, okay?
Starting point is 00:12:18 He's like, there's a reason why I can only say so much. And he kind of, you know, a little feisty, little spicy, little spicy, salty David Grush. I think I like salty David Grush because I think he's tired of, you know, people who are speaking at a turn. And yes, I say that when it comes to someone like, you know, Neil deGrasse Tyson where or even Avi Loeb where they're like, all right, you know, come on, give us the goods. And it's like, all right, maybe you don't understand everything that's happening here, like everything that's on the line. okay maybe be a little bit more sensitive to the situation and that's kind of what david grush was saying was like you guys are basically looking like fools
Starting point is 00:12:55 and your your field of work is being undermined by these secrets that you're basically ridiculing me for saying oh well tell us more so it was it was pretty interesting he kind of came back hard at them salty david grush i'm a fan of salty david crush it's like yeah come on tell him but when you talk about this op-ed as well that, you know, David Grush is talking about that I guess we'll come out
Starting point is 00:13:21 sometime in January. But he said, there is a limit, again, like he kind of spoke back to Neil deGrasse Tyson and Avi Loeb, saying there's a limit to what he can actually tell us even in the op-ed. So how, I guess, you know, revealing will this be? So here's what he had to say when he was asked about what his firsthand knowledge involves. What are we going to find out about in this op-ed? We're going to hear more about bodies, craft, biologics, as he put it in front of Congress. Here's what he had to say on the limitations about what he's still allowed to say, what not to say.
Starting point is 00:13:57 The deeper description of what I know has been redacted. They proposed a redaction in a pre-publication and security review response a few days ago. And they're telling me to withhold legally some of the firsthand knowledge I have. But I'm allowed to generally discuss that I was read into a U.S. related program directly by the U.S. government. All right. So I guess the question is, what is the deeper description that we're not going to get and what different details may we get in this op-ed?
Starting point is 00:14:29 It sounds like, to me anyway, just from what he was saying there in that interview with News Nation, it seems like the real juicy stuff, if you will, is still going to remain under wraps for now, which I get, okay, there is I understand the situation there's only so much you can say the fact that a guy like this has even come out and said what he said
Starting point is 00:14:53 to begin with there's a huge risk for him and he's gone through it and we're going to cover more of that here in just a minute so the deeper description you know you're always going to have people who aren't happy
Starting point is 00:15:05 they're always going to want more you can give them a feast and if you don't give dessert they're going to be upset so that's just the way some people are I mean, that probably goes with a lot of things in life. So I guess we'll see what type of details he's able to go into once we read this op-ed and what has to be left out. But it could be interesting.
Starting point is 00:15:28 You know, we might get some new information there. We'll keep an eye out for that one from David Grush. But maybe there's a good reason why he still maintains some of the secrecy. Because if you were threatened or investigated, that might kind of, you know, make you take, make you take. make you take a couple steps back as well. And apparently those are things that he has been going through. And he spoke about that here with Tucker Carlson, actually, going back to that interview. Here's what David Grush actually had to say about some threats that he's encountered.
Starting point is 00:15:59 I mean, it was blatant, we'll just say, what I observed. And it was so concerning, I had, I ended up reporting it to the authorities. And I asked my agency for certain protective measures. I can't get into that detail. But I was certainly petrified. And at the same time that those things were happening to me personally, they were happening at the same time to a certain other public figure that is known to the world, we'll just say, and another former intelligence officer near my home as well.
Starting point is 00:16:31 And it was some kind of planned multi-person intimidation activity that was very disturbing. and I'll just leave it at that. Wow. I mean, it really does kind of make you, I guess, take a step back and realize, hey, this isn't all fun in games. Like, it's fun for us. It's exciting. Maybe, yeah, the better word is probably exciting to hear, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:57 details from a guy like David Grush, a man who is in his position to come out and talk about these things and say, yes, this stuff is happening, right? That's what got people so jazzed up this year when he came to his statements and what he's had to say over the past months. But when you hear him talk about overt threats and how it was like this multi-pronged operation against him and other people and a public figure,
Starting point is 00:17:21 we don't know who those people are. I mean, we can only speculate, you know, who he's talking about, whether it's politicians. Listen, going back to Michael Herrera, remember, you know, this is a guy in Michael Herrera who is a pretty high-level whistleblower himself. He hasn't been as public as David Grush because that's not his, I guess, his desire to be out there in front of all the cameras and speaking. He's spoken to me.
Starting point is 00:17:49 He's spoken to a few other shows, but he doesn't want to get out there a lot. But in a couple of times that I've spoken to Michael Herrera, he has mentioned Marco Rubio, you know, Senator from Florida, where I am right here in Florida, how Marco Rubio has been threatened. I mean, Michael Herrera has said that here on this show. So that's a big deal. If you're talking about public figures, maybe we are speaking about politicians in that case. And Herrera even talked about how he was threatened. Black helicopters flying over his house and things like that. So, I mean, we've heard these accounts personally from people that I've spoken to here in the show.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And it sounds like David Grush is going through the same type of stuff. And these, you know, strong armed tactics. It's just, it's a shame. but this is the kind of stuff that takes place behind the scenes. And it's these scare tactics, right? If you say something, then X, Y, and Z is going to happen to you or your family or your friends or your business. It's serious stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:52 And the question always becomes, ultimately, what are they trying to hide and why, right? What is the deeper layer of these secrets here? Well, if being threatened wasn't enough, Maybe investigations would do the trick, I guess. More strong-arm tactics as they try to bury people in litigation, which is just a classic strong-arm there from the government. Listen to these claims here from David Grush on how he was attacked through the legal system.
Starting point is 00:19:22 So not only overt threats against him, but then legal action also taken. This is pretty wild. I was under criminal investigation for four months. I was never interviewed. I didn't even know what it was about. But then I found out afterwards when they, you know, tried to use that to revoke my clearance. Now, mind you, I was cleared of any wrongdoing. I maintained my clearance.
Starting point is 00:19:44 You know, I resigned from NGA with my clearance eligibility intact. And I'm like, okay, so you said I did something bad, which wasn't even true. You never interviewed me and you were trying to use that information to fire me. That's crazy. And one of the reasons I went public, I'm a patriot, I shouldn't be treated like this. And it is an average. I mean, you talk about, it's just a shame, you know, that last line really got me where he says, I'm a patriot.
Starting point is 00:20:11 It shouldn't be treated like this because he's not the only one. I mean, we've heard stories before about different people, how they're treated by, you know, the government and, you know, their former employer, if you will, when they come out and they try to do the right thing. And their former employer says, no, no, that's not how this works. And then they, well, that happens, right? Investigations and litigation and all these things. they try to take your clearances away.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Again, you know, what is the big, big thing here, right? I think we know what it is, but I'm sure there's more that meets the eye than what we're even seeing. And this all kind of depends on if you believe David Grush to begin with. Personally, I do. I have. I continue to. That's just my opinion. Some people think he's full of it.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Some people think he's an attention hog. If that's where you're at, then by all means. But I don't see it that way with David Grush. I see a guy that is trying to do the right thing. And in his words with Joe Rogan, he ruined his life over this. So it's, man, it's a lot. And I think there's still a lot more to come that we are going to hear in 2024. I have a feeling 2024 is going to be very, very interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:32 That is for sure. just to hear some of the stuff that he's gone through, oh, you know, behind the scenes, the threats, the litigation, the investigations. I give the guy a lot of credit for continuing to push forward. You know, a lot of people, most people, the vast majority of people, would back down and say, okay, all right, enough, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Like, my bad, okay, I'll take it all back. You don't have to threaten me or my family or my friends or my business. You don't have to, you know, empty my bank account. You don't have to, you know, bury me in litigation, so I'm buried in legal fees. and I go broke. Okay, I get it. I'm done.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Most of us would do that. David Grush hasn't. He's out there trying to fight the good fight. So I give him credit. And like I said, I have a feeling there was a lot more to come. There was one more clip here, actually, that I wanted to play because it kind of connects to a lot of other things that we've spoken about in the past. He mentioned the nukes, the nuke connection, if you will,
Starting point is 00:22:30 when it comes to UAPs, UFOs, aliens, you know, everything going on, why have they always been very interested seemingly in our nuclear capabilities? He does mention Bob Salas here, actually. A good friend Bob Salas, who has spoken to a couple times. Great guy have had him on here on the show. And he mentions, you know, the Malchum Air Force Base. So I'll let David Grush here talk about what is the nuke connection when it comes to aliens and UFOs?
Starting point is 00:23:02 Certainly there is some kind of nuclear connection. What does it mean? I don't know. They're obviously performing some kind of reconnaissance in surveillance of us as it relates to not only our nuclear weapons and nuclear facilities and, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:17 a very famous incident in 1967, Bob Salas, right, shut down the nukes and you know, we should take those observers seriously. They're trained. They have clearances. They have their, you know, jobs in the line, you know, lying in that regard. And so there is a nuclear connection, but what does it mean? I don't even know. It sounds like he really doesn't know there. You know, a lot of times he'll say,
Starting point is 00:23:39 well, I can't tell you about it. Sounds like he really doesn't even know. And it's, it is the age old question, right? What is the connection? And, you know, he mentions Bob Salas there, which was great to hear him get a shout out. But that has always been the question. Is it, you know, that just an observation, you know, is it just that monitor? if you will. Okay, let's see what you humans are doing. Are you going to blow yourselves up here? You know, is it like the parent has to come and take the toy away from the child because they're going to hurt themselves? Is that the kind of situation that we're in when it comes to their interest in our nuclear capabilities? Or is it an energy thing? We don't really know. And that's still a question
Starting point is 00:24:22 that we're trying to figure out. It's all kind of theory. But it was interesting to hear him talk about it, though. It's, you know, is that a secret anyone knows? Honestly, I guess when you think about it, maybe that's one of the most guarded secrets. It could be, you know, maybe that's one of those things that it causes the UFO discussion to be such a highly, highly classified type of discussion when it comes to, you know, government, Department of Energy, right? We've talked about them before, you know, how the atomic, you know, apartment, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:56 department through Oppenheimer's time kind of evolved into the Department of Energy and, you know, people say they're the ones who kind of hold all the cards, or at least most of the cards. So if you talk about it, you know, nuclear secrets and energy
Starting point is 00:25:12 and things like that, you would think maybe the Department of Energy would be the organization that kind of has some of the answers there, but maybe nobody knows. It's fascinating. One of those questions we continue to ask and continue to
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Starting point is 00:28:06 which is why I called this UFO mania, because it was like every day something was happening. And this next one comes from someone who was pretty high up there in the totem pole, former Secretary of Defense under the Trump administration, Chris Miller. he sat down with Sean Ryan on his show and Sean Ryan does a great job his head on actually Michael Herrera and DC Long who is spoken to here and Eric Hecker who he's spoken to
Starting point is 00:28:31 so some of the same names actually from the Sean Ryan show to hear I've never spoken to Chris Miller but it looks like he had a great discussion with Chris Miller again former Secretary of Defense there under the Trump administration and this clip here kind of stuck out for
Starting point is 00:28:49 a lot of people, including myself, because the two of them towards the end of the interview spoke about UAPs for a little while, and people were shocked when they heard how regretful Chris Miller was for not finding out more about the UAP phenomenon. Listen to what he had to say here himself. This was Chris Miller, again, former Secretary of Defense under the Trump administration. This is what he had to say about what he regrets not finding out. What I failed to do when I was acting Secretary of Defense was to ask for that briefing. What was I thinking?
Starting point is 00:29:25 I really wish I would have gotten that briefing. So you go in there, you're asking about what's it like the first day. You know what I should have asked for then? UAP said, give me the report on the UFOs. Should have done that. I'm serious a heart attack right now. Should have done that. And nobody volunteered to give that briefing.
Starting point is 00:29:42 And I wonder why. Well, I think I know why. it's because they don't want other people to know. They don't want other people to know. There you go. Highlight it. Italicize it. Underline it.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Bold it. Whatever you want to do. I think I know why. They don't want other people to know. Isn't that amazing? That's kind of like the crux of this whole thing. It's the nucleus of this entire thing. Of this whole discussion, of the secrecy.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Why wouldn't they brief? Why wouldn't they voluntarily briefed the Secretary of Bleepin' Defense? on this issue. He would have to ask for it specifically. They're not going to volunteer that information. Even if you're the Secretary of Defense, they're not going to volunteer. They're going to give you the nuclear codes.
Starting point is 00:30:28 They're going to give you protocols, all those different things. You know, what do you do in the case of major terrorist attack? Those are all things that they give you, you know, the nation's secrets, you know, underground bunkers, things like that. They're going to tell you all that. But they're not going to volunteer. the information when it comes to the UAPs and past recoveries and reverse engineer technology. That they're not going to give you when you're the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Defense.
Starting point is 00:30:57 And they're not going to tell you those things unless you ask for it specifically. Isn't that something? And you hear it there in his voice. How regretfully it was like, dang it. I missed that opportunity. I didn't find out and I should have asked. Now there's, you know, a lot of important things going on. You have a lot on your plate when you're coming in as the secretary defense.
Starting point is 00:31:19 A lot going on around the world. So, you know, he was distracted. But you hear it there for over 80 years. That has been the main thing at the center of this discussion. What Chris Miller said there at the end of that quote. They didn't volunteer the information because they don't want other people to know. You heard it straight from the horse's mouth. I mean, that's a guy that would know.
Starting point is 00:31:42 That's a guy in a position as a secretary defense. for goodness sakes. And he says they don't want other people to know. He knows what's going on behind the scenes. So the question is, of course, now what, right? Or I should say maybe know what. What do they want people to know? Or how much of it?
Starting point is 00:32:00 All of it, specific pieces of information related to sensitive subjects. You know, we've brought up religion before. Is there information regarding the connection to God? religion, beliefs, Christianity, whatever? Is there a segment of that that they want to keep out of the public domain? Is there a segment of the conversation when it comes to abductions, experimentations, treaties? You know, do all those things go hand in hand? You go back to the old, you know, stories when it came to Eisenhower and his supposed treaty with the grays
Starting point is 00:32:38 where they talked about, okay, well, let you abduct a certain amount of people if you give us this type of technology and then the grays take it too far, that's been the story. Do they want, you know, is that, is that the dark, disturbing stuff that they don't want us to know about, that Tucker Carlson doesn't want to tell his wife? Is that the type of stuff that they need to keep secret in their minds from the general public? So what don't they want us to know?
Starting point is 00:33:08 much of it, don't they want us to know? And these are all just theories, right? Maybe it's the origins. How it all connects to, you know, creation. Maybe it's, maybe something as simple as what type of laws has the U.S. government broken over the past 80 years? What are they going to be liable for? What are they not going to be able to get away with? How weak, maybe, how weak would we actually look in the grand scheme of things?
Starting point is 00:33:35 That's another thing, too, that I don't think gets brought up enough. You know, maybe the U.S. government doesn't bring up a lot of this stuff or tell the truth on some of it. Not only because of the power and the money and things like that, of course, that has a lot to do with it. You know, whenever you have a question, follow the money. But when it comes to, of course, you know, defense contracts and just having, you know, that power, the advanced technology over your adversaries, of course, those are all things that you want to keep secret. That's obvious. but what if there's stuff that we still don't understand? And that's most likely the case.
Starting point is 00:34:14 I mean, think about it. If, let's say you're a time traveler from, you know, 1920, and you travel 100 years into the future to 2023, what are you going to do when someone hands you an iPhone? I mean, think about it. What are you going to do when someone puts you in a Tesla? I mean, you're going to have no idea what's going on. And that's just 100 years of technology that it would take you a while to understand, okay, what is happening here?
Starting point is 00:34:46 How does this stuff work? So I'm sure there are things that the U.S. government, as far as reverse engineer technology is concerned, or things they are still trying to reverse engineer, that they still don't understand. So maybe there is an element here of not wanting to look weak, not wanting to look like, you know, we're not at the time. the top of the food chain, so to speak. If it comes out that, well, there are higher, you know, there's this higher knowledge of non-human intelligence out there and we don't really know what it is or how to handle it or what their plans are, but we're just going to go along with it. You lose that sense of invincibility.
Starting point is 00:35:22 You lose that sense of, you know, oh, we're the most powerful ones out there. And I think that's a realization that maybe the U.S. government doesn't want people to have or maybe that they're not ready for yet for people to realize that we're not the highest thing on the food chain. You know what I mean? So I think that has a lot to do with it as well. Not wanting to look weak.
Starting point is 00:35:45 But there's a lot that goes into it. And there's a reason why, a lot of reasons why, like we just said there, that maybe why that information is not volunteered to someone like Chris Miller, former secretary of defense, and why a lot of this stuff still remains you know, kind of hidden
Starting point is 00:36:04 why we don't have that ultimate disclosure yet. But maybe this guy can shed some light on it too. Here's a man named Timothy Gallaudet, retired U.S. Navy Rear Admiral. Yes, that's right, another high-level whistleblower who has gone public with his knowledge of otherworldly tech. You may or may not have heard about this one
Starting point is 00:36:23 because of everything that happened on top of it. Everything happened so quickly this past week or so over the past 7 to 10 days that it was hard to keep up with. Honestly, it was. I was taking notes over the past 10 days or so. Like, okay, I got to talk about this. I got to mention that. And as soon as we write something down,
Starting point is 00:36:40 something else happens. Some other, you know, high level government official would come out and talk about things. It's like, oh my gosh. Well, this is why I feel like kind of got buried a little bit with Tim Gallaudet, which is why I'm talking about it now, because this was astonishing, honestly.
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Starting point is 00:38:35 Explore your options at canesley manor.org, a nonprofit month-to-month senior community within the Front Porch family. But he did this interview on News Nation and with Tim Gallaudet again, former, or I should say retired U.S. Navy rear admiral, okay, pretty high up there, about as high as you can get. and Tim Galadette said unequivocally that from his experience, we are being visited by non-human intelligence that are using technology that we do not fully understand and that the military continues to cover it up. Again, we spoke about all the reasons.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Maybe it's one, maybe it's all, but that cover-up continues to happen. Here's Tim talking about how he started to come across this info. This is a guy, by the way, and Tim Galadet who admitted it. kind of like what David Grush actually did not believe in any of this stuff. Thought it was ridiculous until it happened to them. And it actually goes back to the famous Ryan Graves sighting, right? Where, you know, he was flying off the east coast of the U.S. So you'll actually hear him refer to that here in a second.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Here's Tim Gallaudetton what he had to say with Ross Colthardt about all this. One of my jobs in the Navy, I was the chief meteorologist of the Navy. at the time when Ryan was encountering the UAP, that I received a secret email with the GoFAS video attached to it from my boss, my boss's operations officer, where I learn now that these were happening and occurring in training airspace and causing near mid-air collisions.
Starting point is 00:40:15 So that safety issue is important, and I couldn't believe the Navy didn't do anything about that, and then they actually pulled back that email from my computer on the secret network. That's the part that gets me. They pulled back a secret email on his secret network that they sent to him the rear admiral of the Navy. They took it back. They took that email back.
Starting point is 00:40:38 That's how deep this goes. It's unbelievable. But he talks about being worried about for the safety issue. That's something that, you know, Ryan Graves has talked about as well. The safety issue when it comes to pilots in the sky is you're flying and you come across these things. Are that you going to run into them? Are they going to engage? You know, there's a safety issue involved here that he says there, you know, that the military and the Navy is not kind of paying attention to enough.
Starting point is 00:41:07 You know, why aren't they doing more about it? Well, that's the question, right, is the why. We've talked about that. But that's how secret this stuff is. You know, kind of going back to that, they pulled the secret email that they sent to him on the secret network. They took it back. It's amazing. Gosh, it's like, but it's also amazing to me, how does this not get more attention?
Starting point is 00:41:27 Which is why, again, I wanted to bring it up today, because here you have a real admiral of the Navy retired saying that we are in contact with aliens and these things are really happening. Well, actually, here you go, because he states it without a shadow of a doubt here. I think it's about time that we do disclose that we are in contact with non-human intelligence. That's what needs to be put out there in the public. That's me. And let me, okay, I'm going to play that again because that's amazing. Hold on. I think it's about time that we do disclose that we are in contact with non-human intelligence. That's what needs to be put out there in the public.
Starting point is 00:42:03 That's incredible. I mean, there you have it, right? And crickets, absolute crickets from the legacy media. Did you hear about that on CNN? On Fox News, on MSNBC, on ABC News, on ABC News, on CBS News, on NBC News. Did you hear that anywhere? Did you see it in the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal?
Starting point is 00:42:24 I mean, I didn't see it. Maybe I missed it. Maybe that's my fault. If I missed it, that is my fault. But I didn't see that plastered across the headlines that a former rear admiral from the Navy said this. I think it's about time that we do disclose that we are in contact with non-human intelligence.
Starting point is 00:42:42 That's what needs to be put out there in the public. Hello? I mean, that is, that's a statement from a guy like that gets ignored. I mean, that's unbelievable. I do find one other thing interesting to hear, though, with what he said and how he said it. And it kind of relates back to something that Grush said in a clip I played earlier, where he mentions the need for basic disclosure. If you don't want to release everything all at once, fine, okay?
Starting point is 00:43:10 You win. Have it your way. If you don't want to put everything out there, if you feel like the slow drip process is a, better thing to do, then fine. But as long as you get it out there. But at least start off with the basics, right? We are not alone. We have recovered craft and their occupants. Start there, those three things.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Like you heard David Grus say earlier. And like you just heard from that, honestly, mind-blowing statement from Tim Gallaudet, a guy who had no interest in this conversation, but a guy who has come across this stuff, understands what's going on, and wants the military and the government to do something about it. And they're not because they're still keeping it secret. And if you just put it out there, like Tim Galadette said, we are in contact with intelligence that is not of this planet.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Let's get all that out of the way, okay? Put it out there in the public. Let's just put those, the basic disclosure out there. And then we can move forward from there. It doesn't have to be, you know, this avalanche of information where even where aliens come down in their ships and land at the White House and have a joint press conference with the president. That's not what we're asking for.
Starting point is 00:44:24 But if you can put out the basic information, let's get the basic truths out there. And then we can move forward. But it also becomes a question of strategy, I think. How do they want all this to come out if they're going to let it out at all? You know, that's always been the question for decades. decades. Maybe if they want to avoid what most referred to as the catastrophic disclosure, then they could instead give us the basic disclosure and get the ball rolling from there. So if you look at this even from a strategic standpoint, you see the ball is rolling.
Starting point is 00:44:59 If you are the Pentagon, if you are the defense contractors, okay, the people who are hiding these things for themselves, and you are trying to avoid disclosure. But you see, you understand the environment that the ball is rolling toward disclosure. You have more and more people talking about it. It's being spoken about in the news. It's being talked about from, you know, high-level officials, retired military. People are saying these things are happening in the real. That maybe your strategy becomes get out in front of it and will have that basic disclosure.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Tide people over, avoid the catastrophic disclosure. Let them focus on the basic stuff. That way we can, you know, give a little bit more as time goes on from there. So maybe it becomes a strategy thing where their hand ends up being forced. But time will tell. That's just an observation of my part. We'll see. But of course, unfortunately, that's all easier said than done.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Because, in fact, Gallaudet mentioned that in this interview with Coldheart when he spoke about how the ball is now in Washington's court. And maybe the special access programs, SAPs, special access programs, programs. They are the ones who are preventing disclosure. Take a listen to how he wrapped it up here. So what you have going on right now are, again, legacy classified programs, special access programs, and without congressional direction and White House policy, that's not going to change. Well, there you go, right? Kind of cut and dry there. And unfortunately, it didn't change all that much last week when Senator Schumer and Rounds continued to plead their case for the UAP Disclosure Act. So to kind of wrap it up here because you had the interviews going on, we went through all those,
Starting point is 00:46:44 but then you also had the stuff going behind the scenes on Capitol Hill where they were fighting for the UAP Disclosure Act, which got torn apart because during a rousing back and forth, Schumer, who is the Senate Majority Leader, just as a reminder, by the way, it's not just some, you know, freshman senator or something. Like, if you're not familiar with politics, this guy has been around a long time. and Senator rounds of South Dakota, Schumer that the Democrat rounds the Republican, bipartisan, you know, kind of coming together here and trying to get something done,
Starting point is 00:47:19 they laid out their hopes for UAP disclosure for the Disclosure Act, but also had to face the hard facts that it had been gutted by the likes of the two mics, as we call the Mike Turner and Mike Rogers, who have connections up the wazoo, by the way, to the intelligence and defense contracting communities, but that's neither here nor
Starting point is 00:47:38 they are there, right? So what kind of interest would they have in keeping these things secret, right? Sure, just look at Mike Rogers and Mike Turner. We've spoken about them before in the past. If you don't know enough about them, you'll see Mike Rogers and Mike Turner the connections they have and why they want to keep this secret, which
Starting point is 00:47:53 they succeeded because they tore this thing apart. This is a very interesting statement that Schumer made that got a lot of attention from those who heard it. It sounds like he is essentially calling out the government cover-up, honestly, which astonishing for a guy in his position. Now, ignore his misspeak here a little bit at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:48:10 You'll know what I mean when you hear it. But just listen to the overall statement he has here. Unidentified unanimous phenomena are of immense interest and curiosity to the American people. But with that curiosity comes the risk for confusion, disinformation, and mistrust, especially if the government isn't prepared to be transparent. The United States government has gathered. a great deal of information about UAPs over many decades, but has refused to share it with the American people. That is wrong, and additionally, it breeds mistrust. We've also been notified
Starting point is 00:48:48 by multiple credible sources that information on UAPs has also been withheld from Congress, which, if true, is a violation of the laws requiring full notification to the legislative branch. Pretty incredible. I mean, you have the Senate Majority Leader there talking about how the government has refused to share info over the decades and info is being hidden from Congress. And we've all known this, right? That's always been the theory. But to hear someone like Chuck Schumer say that on the floor,
Starting point is 00:49:17 and the speech that he was giving, really kind of makes it hit home, doesn't it? And it kind of, of course, rattles the cages there in D.C. What will it do in the end? We'll find out. But it does make it hit home for people, I think, who continue to ignore that this is happening. And unfortunately, one of the things, that was taken out of the Disclosure Act by the mics
Starting point is 00:49:37 was the Presidential Review Board on UAPs. It seems pretty clear at the moment anyway. That will not get to be part of the Disclosure Act, which is something that was being fought for to have that presidential review board. I think a lot was going to be able to come out through that, but it's not going to be there. But it wasn't all negative, though.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Schumer did announce this one little tidbit while also acknowledging the House's refusal on some of the other key measures. This was pretty interesting. Listen to this. It's beyond disappointing that the House has refused to work with us on all the important elements
Starting point is 00:50:14 of the UAP Disclosure Act during the NDAA conference. But nevertheless, we did make important progress. For the first time, the National Archives will gather records from across the federal government on UAPs and have a legal mandate to release those records to the public, if appropriate. This is a major, major win for government
Starting point is 00:50:33 and transparency on UAPs, and it gives us a strong foundation for more action in the future. All right, so let's just start. Okay. Now, one thing he didn't say there, and this was actually reported from the New York Times. I mentioned them earlier. They did report this. That's National Archives Act there, where they're going to release, and you mentioned, or I should say highlight, you heard Schumer mentioned, if appropriate.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Those two words, the National Archives will release, if appropriate, to the public's. So we'll see how much actually comes out from this. But still, it could be a nice little, you know, start, you know, keep things rolling here anyway in that sense. But one thing that he did not mention, like I said, that the New York Times reported on with this act is that the files they're going to release only pertain back to the past 25 years. So we're not going back 80, 90 years here. We're going back 25 years. And if we're going to 2024, when this act will go through, 25 years, believe or not, only goes back to 1999, which is frightening in its own right to think that 25 years ago is 1999. I feel like that's still five years ago.
Starting point is 00:51:47 But I guess that's a different issue. But seriously, though, I mean, that doesn't, that won't even cover the Phoenix Lights. I mean, the Phoenix Lights was something that happened, what, in 1997? So, yeah, you might, we'll get some good stuff, I think. but there's still a lot more that that needs to be done. And unfortunately, that UAP Disclosure Act was really torn into shambles when it hit the House floor there by the few Republicans who just tore it apart like ravenous dogs would go after some food.
Starting point is 00:52:18 It was just ridiculous. But we'll see that's not all negative. We'll see how things kind of pan out in 2024. And I think that's going to be the big question, right? What else are we going to see? What else are we going to see here in the final couple weeks of 2020? I mean this past week like I said that's why I named it UFO mania this past week 70 to 10 days was just almost head turning head spinning which is why I wanted to put it all
Starting point is 00:52:42 together here today and hopefully it was useful for you this this kind of you know summary of events over the past 7 to 10 days was useful that was the goal here today on this uap weekly because there was a lot to cover I wanted to try to pack it all in here to this one episode and just kind of round it all up. It was a lot and it's wild. The one that really sticks with me, though, is that Tim Galadette quote, just unreal, where you have a guy of his stature
Starting point is 00:53:10 against Satan this. I think it's about time that we do disclose that we are in contact with non-human intelligence. That's what needs to be put out there in the public. Well, there you go, right? So what is the coming 24? Lots of talk about that, that there might be some really, I guess,
Starting point is 00:53:28 mind-blowing, I don't know, but some type of bigger disclosure going on. Of course, we'll find out as it comes. I'll be right here to talk about it all as it happens. And how will this all translate to an election cycle? That's a question I have, too. And some final thoughts here before we wrap up. This conversation has never been this big. Let's face it, right?
Starting point is 00:53:48 It really hasn't. As far as the mainstream is concerned, it's never been this big. So how will this have any effect on an election cycle in 2024? for it's a presidential election year and why is chuck schumer and others so intent on disclosure all of a sudden why now and that's my question that i mentioned at the beginning of the show i said i had a question about all this once we wrapped it all up and i'll close out with this why specifically now that's the question i keep coming back to that's my biggest question this year actually and it's a question that that has rang louder in my head over the past seven to ten days
Starting point is 00:54:25 with all this that has come up that we spoke about here today. It seems like it's just been accelerating. The conversation, the push toward disclosure, has been accelerating at a speed I have never seen before. It's really been incredible to watch and to witness, especially again, like I said, you have all these big names that we went over, but I am curious about a guy like Chuck Schumer,
Starting point is 00:54:50 a guy in his position, you know, a Senate Majority Leader, where you have the power that he has, and he's choosing to use it now after his entire career in politics. Now he's going after this when it comes to UAP and the discussion, the phenomenon and disclosure in this conversation. I don't know. I'm not like implying some type of underhand tactics.
Starting point is 00:55:14 That's not what I'm trying to do. I'm just trying to figure out why is the conversation accelerating the way that it is and why do we have the people who are pushing it, everybody that we've spoken about here today, why do we have all these people who are pushing it deciding to push it so hard now specifically it's I don't know
Starting point is 00:55:33 but the fact of the matter is it's happening right before our eyes so we're going to keep covering it as it goes on it's wild times I'm so happy and grateful to be here to talk about it all with you on UAP weekly it's really something and just remember I've said this before and it's worth repeating again there are those who wish to continue the secrecy and cover things up.
Starting point is 00:55:55 And there are those who are trying to stop them and bring these stories to light. We are on the right side of history. Those of us who are trying to stop the people stonewalling all these things. Those of us who are trying to bring about disclosure and ask the questions and bring about truth for the societies and the general population of the world,
Starting point is 00:56:16 we are on the right side of history. I really do believe that. So I'm going to continue to push and continue to talk about these things and point out the interviews and highlight the quotes and ask the questions because those are the times we're living in. And we're going to get this done. We're going to figure this out.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Gosh, darn it, one of these days. We are going to find out more answers. But that's going to do it for today. Thank you so much, as always, for joining me. I hope I was able to give you some context to this crazy week and beyond. I'll keep you updated, by the way, on all things UAP and future episodes. Bizarre Encounters Part 3 for UAP episode 77. that will be out this week.
Starting point is 00:56:55 I want to have it out before Christmas to finish off that series. It kind of became a trilogy. I wasn't expecting it to become a trilogy. I didn't start off that way, but there's a lot of bizarre encounters out there. So we're going to finish off that series, and it is quite a doozy. I have it all in my head. For that part three, I have the whole thing in my head. I just have to put it out on paper and put it out to you to get out that episode.
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