UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP Weekly 2/22/24 Giant Black Triangles and Air Force One Orbs

Episode Date: February 22, 2024

US Military Special Operations Command Analyst, Anthony Williams, rejoins the show to discuss some cases that have not been revealed to the public and some that are being covered up. Including the reports of orb shaped craft following Air Force One, as well as sightings of enormous black triangle UFOs that were recently seen over highly classified military installations. All that and so much more...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Go ahead, stream your movie. Book the couple's massage. Make a dinner reservation while we bring you to our island home. Hawaii starts here. Yes, I love that music because that means it's time for a new episode of the UAP weekly. Welcome in, Stephen Deaner back with you here on the Unidentified Alien podcast Weekly Edition. And I'm so happy to say that we have some brand new information here today with none other than Anthony Williams. Yeah, he is back on the show for the third time now.

I think he's tied Nick Pope for the most appearances for a guest on UAP. So pretty cool there. But Anthony Williams, kind enough again to join me here today on UAP Weekly. So you're going to hear from him. Reason why he came back is because the last time we spoke, actually about a month ago, we did a two-part series behind the curtain of military intelligence. It was really well done because of Anthony Williams. The information and the perspective he gave was fantastic.

But the only problem was we didn't get to cover everything that I wanted to talk about with him. because there was so much more that he had given me information on that I wanted to bring up during those episodes, but we couldn't get to it all. So we carved out some time to do it again, and you're going to hear about some things that I know I haven't spoken about here on this show before, and I'm not sure, quite frankly, have been spoken about on any other show or platform.

We're talking about sightings of giant black triangle craft over very sensitive U.S. military installations. And we're talking about within the past six months this happened. And there were very public sightings. And Orb craft following Air Force One just a few months ago. We have a lot of sightings in Florida, Central Florida, some weird stuff going over by Eglin Air Force Base. So there's a lot of new information in here today

that I think you're going to find really, really compelling. And it's all thanks again to Anthony Williams. So I'm really happy that he was able to jump back. back on with me here today for both parts. This is another two-part series, again, because there's so much information that he has to offer. We had to split this up. So in the first part, we're going to cover everything I just spoke to about there. And then in part two, you're going to hear some very different things.

Actually, Anthony interviews me in part two. So that was a lot of fun. I think you're going to enjoy that. He asks a lot of really deep questions, actually, that I think you'll find very interesting. That's going to be in part two, along with information concerning the whistleblower that I had put out a couple months ago on Twitter. I said that there was a new whistleblower going to come out this year, someone with firsthand information, someone who spoke to David Grush directly and gave him information. This person, that was the only thing I can say at that

time a couple months ago. And Anthony went into actually some surprising detail about this whistleblower and some of the things that he is going to be talking about once his story does go public. So you're going to hear things that no one else has heard before about the new whistleblower testimony that will hopefully be coming out later this year, supposed to. Anthony has some details on that, some of the things that he could offer. And that's all in part two. But for right now, let's get to part one. So much information here. And it's really, really compelling stuff. Again, things that I hadn't heard until we spoke about it here. So enjoy. myself Anthony Williams part one of this new two-part series together.

And welcome to it. Another edition of UAP Weekly with none other than Anthony Williams, Special Operations Command Analyst in the U.S. military and decorated veteran as well. I always thank you for your service, Anthony. And also thank you for coming on back on here today. I think it's your third appearance here on UAP. So thanks for coming back. Yeah, I think so.

I'm excited for this one. This is going to be a little bit different. I'm looking forward to it. It is. and I'm glad you say that. So I'll kind of, you know, jump into what we're, what we're doing here today because it's,

it's going to be fun. First, first we're going to cover some of the things that we didn't get to last time because we got into some really good stuff, good stuff, some really heavy stuff. Um, last time around when it came to like the,

the Miami incident, the siding there and a lot, a lot of things. We got into the jellyfish UFO from the Jeremy Corbell video. Um, and a lot of, of other different things as well. But there was a lot of stuff left on the table,

a lot of meat on the bone, if you will, that we didn't get to cover. And it was a two-part series the last time we did this. So that just goes to show you how much we covered there that we didn't get to cover, which is why I wanted to bring you back here today. So thanks for doing that. And then after we get to the other topics,

we're going to do something different. Like you said, something a little different, something little fun that I've never done before on UAP, which is you're going to ask me questions. It's my turn. That's right. It's your turn. Now, I've been interviewed before on other podcasts.

Actually, just recently, if anybody wants to check it out on the Alien Addict podcast, they do the thing on YouTube. There's a couple of guys there, Ali and San Lee. They do a great job on the Alien Addict podcast. So I'll give them a little shout out there. They had me on over the weekend. If you missed that, you can check it out on YouTube and on Spotify. And they were, you know, they asked me a bunch of questions.

And that I'm used to. I've been on a couple of different shows as a guest. But I've never been a guest on my own show. So that's going to be a little different. That'll be fun. Oh, yeah. We're going to have fun with it. Yeah.

But before we get into all that, again, a lot of stuff we didn't get to last time that I wanted to cover with you, including one thing that we're going to get to, which is I got into a little bit of heat, a little bit of trouble, made some waves at the beginning of the, year. I tend to do that every, like every five to six months. I make some waves and I get into some trouble. And at the beginning of the year or the end of 23, I forget exactly what it was. I came out and I said there's a new whistleblower that's going to come out. And he has firsthand knowledge. He's someone that spoke to David Grush directly. They gave him the firsthand accounts. We're going to get into more of that today. And take a little peek at that because there's some knowledge there that I think

we can shed on there. And some people, kind of called me out on social media saying, yeah, sure, okay, buddy, whatever you say. And so for anybody who was on there saying, okay, sure, buddy, whatever you say, you might want to hear that part in this episode. But before we get there, there was some stuff that you had brought up to me a few months back when it came to some sightings being talked about within your circles. Some black triangles that were being seen over some sensitive areas of Wyoming and Colorado. we have orbs following Air Force One.

We have a ton of sightings by Eglin Air Force Base here in my area in Florida and a lot of stuff in Orlando. So I'm going to touch and all that. I want to start with those black triangles. What happened there? I think this goes back to October of last year, right? This is pretty recent October 2023. Yeah, very, very recent. So in Colorado, obviously, you know, home of the Air Force Academy.

in several military installations. Also, the home of NORAD in Shyan Mountain. You know, so a big area there, these triangles were spotted. And what's cool about this sighting is it was documented by a lot of observers, and it wasn't like a 15-second observation. These blacked-out triangles were seen moving over extremely sensitive military sites, starting in Colorado, observed by government personnel, military personnel, as well as a slew of civilians. They were moving from Cheyenne Mountain over into the Wyoming area, traveled great distance.

They were spotted by airliners. And at the point where they went into Wyoming, they were over an area near Warren Air Force Base, which, if anyone knows their history, you know, there's a lot of nuclear silos, part of our strategic defense and our strategic deterrence all throughout Wyoming. What was interesting about these black triangles is, you know, it's common knowledge where our military bases are. You can Google that. You can find out where they are. But these triangles went to very specific, extremely sensitive sites. revolving, all involving our nuclear capability. And that is not public knowledge.

And that set off a whole other level of alarms. And very reminiscent of what happened back in the 60s. Right. Was shutting down the silos, that level of panic. Although no military personnel reported any capability being shut off or anything messing with anything. but the fact that these things were going, stopping and hovering over these locations, it's either the luckiest guests in the world or they knew exactly what they were looking for and what they were doing over those locations.

Yeah, a couple. It's really fascinating because there's a couple of things here. Number one, of course, the location, right? We're talking about sensitive military installations in areas that are not publicly advertised as to what's there. and where they are. And that's where these craft were seen. So in this topic, in this world, this UAP world,

I know I think you and I agree that we don't really believe in coincidence when it comes to this discussion and these things we're seeing. Yeah, 100%. And, you know, I want to give a shout out to a website that, you know, probably some of your, you know, listeners, viewers are aware of, but some others might not be. And it's one that we even use in reference. When we want to pull mass information or mass sightings, it's it's Newfork.org.

That's N-U-F-O-R-C.org. Right. And that website does a good job at cataloging, you know, every type of human sense, or whether it's just, you know, Joe, regular on the street, or whether it's someone in the government or military. anyone can upload there, which means anything can get put there, but New Fork also will do a good job at looking into the incident, and they'll caveat if it's been explained a different way. So a good, that's a site that we used, even with this siting, with the military observers, of course, that's what led it to my group, but then going to New Fork looking at all the other witnesses, all the civilian witnesses, that we're reporting this thing amplified it. And that's what so, you know, I think that's what makes this one different

than some other sightings that we hear about. You're talking about really what ended up being a mass siding over state lines by civilians and military personnel and government personnel. So you have three groups of people there all reporting the same type of thing, these black triangles moving over state lines through Colorado into, and then a separate siteing into Wyoming. Now, those were different days, right? Colorado was a different day than the Wyoming site.

Correct. It was over, over several days, several day period. There were multiple sightings of these, which also amplifies the, you know, the suspicion of what are they doing? It's not something just floating by or flying by or balloon accidentally hovering or even a spy just floating with the wind. This is something that's getting work done in a deliberate area. Yeah, and I'm glad you said that because, you know, in your line of work, I'm sure you guys come across tons of reports every day that you're discussing. And it's not like you're sitting there, you know, looking for, all right, let's go find the aliens today. Like you guys are looking at stuff. You have to figure out what it is.

Is this a missile threat? Is this a spy balloon threat? Is this some anomalous threat? And those are all, that's like a checklist that you guys have to go through. So what is that like when you're going through something like that where you're getting these reports of dark triangles, you know, flying over Colorado and then it's flying over Wyoming over sensitive military sites that are not known to the general public?

When stuff like that's happening in real time, what is that like? What is that scenario, you know, how does that go down for you guys? Yeah, that's a great question. And let me just, let me just start out answering that one by saying, all of us have a day job. Like all of us in this group and community, we all work for the government doing different things within the intelligence community, within the Department of Defense. So we all have a day job. This is secondary out of personal interest, but it is a collaborative group of highly qualified experts in their field.

So when something comes in, ever since 2017, since the New York Times article, we see the UAP Task Force, Arrow, all these different things. the Department of Defense has gotten very directive of how they want these incidents reported. So when these intelligence reports come in, anyone within the intelligence community can look at the initial report. And so we start looking at these things. And so for instance, a video will come in. The first thing everyone will do is look at it. Everyone's going to give their gut instinct of what it appears to be, what it looks like. But then the community will ask the experts either on that type of sensor on that camera, a propulsion expert, anyone within the group to really try to get to whatever it is. And the goal is not to deny it, but it's to either figure it out as not anomalous and

move on so we can focus on the things that are truly anomalous or to point out, you know, when something is anomalous, when it is violating all these things, when it isn't answerable, And then everyone can crash on that. So it's really interesting. If a video or a report comes in for about a week, this entire community of about 1,500 folks is going to crash on the problem. And watching the threads in the comments as everyone's looking at it, it's really, really interesting.

There have been a number that really seem to get everyone excited. And then a couple experts would come in and say, hey, actually look at this that I wrote three years ago. this is how this works. And you're like, oh, you know, kind of sad panda. Like, I really wanted that to be, you know, an alien, but it's not, you know. And then there are other ones that come out and, and the exact same group will explain why that doesn't fit anything. And it is truly anomalous, even to the level of taking other government experts.

And I say that term very loosely. like a Sean Kirkpatrick or any one of these guys that are reporting on behalf of the government. And they will dissect the inaccuracies in those statements about the other videos and about these other sightings and these other incidents. And it's really exciting to watch play out. I would say every now and then there are comments and new things that come out from something from a few years ago. but really if a new incident happens or there's a new sighting or a new video, that'll get picked apart for about a week or two until everyone can crash on it. We've got some sort of resolution, whether that's ever made public or not,

like you and I have talked about, some of these videos have never been seen. But it's interesting to watch all that play out. What is it with, well, I have a lot of questions from that. Just I guess staying on with with the black triangles. What was the consensus? Did you guys get a measurement on these things? I think we had, they were pretty big, weren't they? Yeah, they were huge.

And I remember, and I don't have my notes in front of me right now, which I feel bad. We're all working remote right now. So I, yeah, I had the notes written down on the exact size, but these are not small vehicle size. were these were quite large, which is why they were so visible even at night. Talking like 300, 400 feet? Like that big like a football field? No, no, no, multiple football fields. These were extremely large.

And that's why they were easily, even at night, you know, displacing starlight, moonlight. They were easily observable by, you know, just ground observers, just civilians on the ground. And obviously those are easily picked up, something that large is easily picked up. by military radar and our sensing equipment, but that's why there were so many sightings by civilians as well. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all e-commerce in the U.S. from household names like Death Wish Coffee, Brook Linnon, and Kylie.

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I didn't realize they were that big, multiple football field size, possibly, dark triangle UAPs, flying over sensitive military installations and sensitive areas, very, very sensitive areas. We never heard about this. No. And what's crazy is when I see something on our network, I will always, when I leave work, I'll always go out to regular civilian internet and try and find these things. Even that website, you know, New Fork, like I just mentioned, is one of the ones I'll try to go check.

Because a lot of times there are other civilian witness testimony that, you know, helps shape the story or tell the story or round it out from other than a military observer. And good luck finding anything on this one. And this is one that if there was a nefarious understanding of what was happening, that may be a reason why this one was buried. But on the civilian side, I can't find anything on the unclassified network on this really at all. not to any detail that we were able to see in the intelligence reporting. Any consensus on what this was, or is this still unknown?

I mean, as far as, you know, just in your chair, you talk to people in your community, you know, as far as an analyst in Special Operations Command, and you look at this and say, oh, yeah, this is an adversary, this is a new technology, or maybe this is our technology, there's some private entity that's testing out their thing, or is this just like you guys came to the conclusion that there is, no conclusion. I mean, what was this? Yeah, I mean, right off the bat, you just look at the size and the shape of it, right? There's, there's no real area that anything that shape, that size is practical. There's no real ability to hover a vehicle that large with no noise. There's no ability to have

that thing fly around silently. So, you know, that definitely falls into the category of what did we just see? You know, what was that? And so, So that was one that didn't get, didn't take long to come back with the very interesting. We have no idea what that was category. Is it possible in your, in your experience, is something like that? Could it be terrestrial in the idea of this is some type of, you know, reverse engineer technology? I'm just, I'm just spitball in here because this is fascinating to me. Some type of reverse engineer technology from Lockheed or Northrop or Boeing or whoever.

and they're testing it out and they're kind of flexing their, the private sector is flexing their muscle to the government and saying, yeah, we have this stuff. There's nothing you can do about it. And we're actually going to fly to one of your secret areas where we know you have, you know, some pretty heavy weaponry over there. And it's like us knocking on the door and saying, yeah, we know your secrets and you better stay away from what we're doing here in the private sector.

Is that a possibility? Yeah, I, you know, my opinion, that has certainly changed over the years. It's 100% possible. The origin of that technology, the fact that it would exist in public sector and it's not being applied in other ways just seems, it seems impractical to me. Totally, totally possible.

Our knowledge and our accelerated knowledge and our ability to collaborate with the onset of the internet, you know, think early 90s to early 2000s, just in that decade alone, our ability to collaborate and send emails and share information, that hasn't doubled, it hasn't tripled, it is skyrocketed exponentially. So to say that that's not possible, I think would be, you know, little hubris on our part. Financially or influence-wise, power-wise, I just don't know, I don't know if that makes sense to me, but it absolutely could be. I'm not, I'm not discounting that at all.

You know, five years ago, I would have said, no, no way that can't be industry. As far as adversary goes, I kind of stand with Dave Fraver and some of the other, you know, military folks that have spoken publicly and say, I don't think there's any way that that's an adversary. as far as private industry, perhaps, but that would take the amount of resources and technology that that would take, the amount of people that would have to work on it in industry for seemingly zero financial gain or recognizable financial gain just seems, you know, just seems impractical. But could it be a demonstration of force to remind, you know, policy? makers why they're going to keep giving those big budget contracts.

Sure. I mean, anything, I think, I think anything's possible. And when you write off, when you easily write off one possibility without really knowing, then you narrow your ability to get to the truth. So I think it would be ridiculous to just write that off and say that that's not possible. Well, yeah, because I guess the other, and it's great perspective that you give there, because I guess the other option is it's not us and it's not adversaries, so it's somebody else. And then it goes back to the question of why are ETs in this case?

If it is someone else, then we'll say ETs. Why are ETs or interdimensional beings, however you want to characterize them? What is their fascination with our nuclear capabilities? And how would they even know where to go? Again, you know, it's a sites that are not publicly known. And that's where these things went. It's kind of startling. Yeah.

And the fact that, you know, sure, okay, different intelligence networks from foreign countries, could they figure out where these sites are, sure. But to be able to maneuver a craft that large with impunity into our airspace over our most sensitive sites, if it's an adversary, that's going to get a swift response, you know, from our military. Right. You know, we, you know, things get dicey when things just come off our coast. You know, they're reported. A Russian bomber flies along the Aleutian Islands doesn't even cross over, you know,

U.S. territory over U.S. land. And that's a major incursion that, you know, gets all sort of saber-rattling done. Something to move into the continental United States with impunity that large over. very, very, very sensitive, arguably our most sensitive military sites. If that's an adversary, I think we're having a completely different discussion. That's a really good point. It's really good. Boy, that is interesting.

I guess we'll keep an eye out, or you'll keep an eye out for anything else that we're not hearing about because those sightings were certainly never made public. I had never heard about it until you spoke about it. And, you know, our conversations in here today. So it's fascinating. I want to jump back to something that you mentioned a little, a few minutes ago, when you said that you guys tend to go through some of these reports that come out from, you know,

the now defunct head of Arrow, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, and you talk about kind of going through those and picking those apart. Can you give examples of different reports that you guys have gone through or that you've gone through where that have come from Arrow or any other government entity that have, you know, looked into the UAP issue and you look at those and you say, yeah, they're covering this up, they're making this up, or they're wrong about this? Yeah. So, first of all, words really matter, right?

And the way, you know, Dr. Kirkpatrick's last shot across the bow as he's leaving arrow, you know, comes out with this report and makes a whole bunch of claims. Basically, I'm submitting and saying that, hey, you know, we really have done our job. There really is nothing to see here. And he gives very specific, you know, questions. quotes, our network almost line by line picked that apart and demonstrated with known incidents publicly and then known incidents on the intelligence side, why what he's saying is wrong. And he's either the most incompetent individual in the world, in our government, or he's

deliberately saying what he's saying for a purpose. You know, other incidents, there was an intelligence report that came in over a combat zone in Europe of an anomalous object or an unknown object taking off extremely high rate of speed faster than anything could do, taking a hard 90-degree turn, a 180-degree turn, and then moving at a very, very rapid rate of speed, the, the intelligence analysts that were tracking this thing, their real-time chat as they're communicating as this thing's traversing around the planet. You know, you can see their discussion. Once they lost track of this thing somewhere over Kazakhstan moving into Russia, it appeared as though it left the atmosphere and disappeared. And they were very perplexed by this. And after our team crashed on it, all of our intelligence personnel from the wide array of government that crashed on this, what came out was it was a very, very, very, very high orbit satellite that was picking up a trail of a highly elliptical satellite that began its ellipse. So it looked like it did a 180 degree turn.

actually closer to Earth making its rotation. And then, of course, the closer it is to Earth, the faster it's moving. It's moving out at an extremely high rate of speed. So you can see the analysts in the chat trying to discuss, is this a ballistic missile launch? Is it a space vehicle launch? What is this thing? And it took the whole of the network to really come together and then leverage some of our space capabilities. This is actually a false catch of one.

one of our satellites in a closer orbit. Because the closer satellite is to Earth, the faster it's moving. I don't know if we've talked about this, but a satellite in low Earth orbit can be moving as fast as 7.8 kilometers a second. That is grease lightning fast. So when you see reports in our atmosphere of these UAP gaining instant acceleration from a satellite that's, you know, maybe in geosynchronous space, that's 28,000 miles away from Earth, you know, and it catches a track of something moving that

fast to the observer on that, on that platform. They may not know exactly what it was. And that, that happened to be the case with that one. So that's, that's an example of a report that comes in as anomalous, that after the network crashes on it, it's, it's easily describable. So you guys are able to debunk things. Like when you look at different things, like it's not, again, it's not, like you're sitting there looking like, okay, we got more proof here.

Like you're, it's an analyst. You're an analyst. So you're looking at here, analyzing videos and you're trying to figure out exactly what you're looking at. That's an example of essentially a debunk. You thought maybe it was one thing. You realize it's another. Yep, 100%. And it's not one that, it's not one that ever made it to the public. Those systems and those things that captured that incident, you know, are not public knowledge. but it's one that we look at, you know, and identify. It is, the analysts don't know what this is. They can't identify it.

Therefore, it's anomalous. And then after, you know, not just our network, but, you know, the other agencies look at it holistically. It's very easily explainable. But it's one that, you know, and we're not looking at things to try and prove them wrong or right. We're trying to get all of the white noise. out of the way, for lack of better term. Let's get the ones out of the way. And it's funny, even the UAP task force or Arrow, you know, they want to focus on all the incidents that can be explained, you know, oh, there's only a handful that are unexplainable. Well, then let's not talk about weather

balloons. Let's talk about those 12. What's up with those? And that seems to be where we want to focus our attention, but it seems like publicly those are the ones that we don't want to talk about. Let me tell you this, this one that you thought was this, and it's, it's really this other thing. Yeah, that's a good point. Do you have any other instances that come to mind when it comes to, hey, yeah, we were able actually to find out what this was, you know, it was some type of, you know, ball lightning or something like that. Yeah, there's, there's been a couple.

It's interesting you bring up the ball lightning. I'll touch on that one in a minute, but there's a video of, of an airline pilot that is filming lights outside his window that are. horizontal to his wing off at the distance. And there's about two to three rows of these things. And they seem to be moving towards the craft. But as they get close, one falls off. And then it appears up in the next row and keeps going,

keeps going, keeps going. And at first glance, it looks like, hey, what are those things? Are those? Could those be flares that were shot off? Or, you know, all these different things got discussed. at the end of the day after about a week, what they were is that they were reflections coming off of the airline windows itself and moving in perfect, you know, synchronization as the aircraft moved. And it made perfect sense once you look at it. So that's an example of one that, you know, it's not a metal object.

It's just lights. And is there a way to explain? Is there a way to replicate that? There absolutely was. Another example, there was an article that came out, and some of your listeners may have read this or studied this, but it's been a discussion of ours recently is the idea of ball plasma, ball lightning, plasma that forms in the atmosphere. And it was tried to be used to explain what the food fighter phenomenon was during World War II. The problem with that is while it can replicate and explain maybe some of the incidents,

ball lightning or plasma that forms in the atmosphere that's triggered by static electricity coming off the wings of aircraft does not account for the objects that are reacting, behaving, moving around from aircraft to aircraft, and the multitude of sightings. So articles like that, seem to be planted. Stories like that seem to be planted again to take the attention away from or write off something that could be extremely legitimate. Is that the consensus as far as, you know, as someone like Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, was his reign, do you think, or, you know, maybe just the field that you got in your, in your field, was his reign all about trying to move the conversation

to another area to, hey, look over here. Don't look over here. Don't look over here. but let's look over here and, and, you know, kind of look at this shiny object. Was that his mission the whole time? If it was, it explains the behavior. A lot of distract and nothing to see here. And when you talk to folks in the community, even his initial appointment, I would definitely say if his goal was to put this discussion on the back burner, you know, he did a good job of that.

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So as we stand here now, you know, talking just a few months ago, I think I saw the article in the LA Times. It was reported in a couple of places. And maybe because it was close to Christmas, it never really gained a lot of steam or a lot of attention. But you would think that some type of anomalous flying object near Air Force One would gain some type of steam or attention within the media or the populace, and it just disappeared.

What happened with that story? Yeah, so this one's awesome. This is, so the guys you're talking about, you know, they track, you know, civilian aircraft, military aircraft. They first spotted this thing while two F-35s were refueling. They were pulling security for Air Force One as President Biden was coming in for a fundraising event in L.A. And what's interesting is there were ground observations of these things coming in off the coast. No adversarial ships in the area that could have launched these things.

They are the classic, you know, sphere UAP that we've seen in combat zones, not just trailing Air Force One, but moving into the area and staying in the area spotted by several people. And yet, to your point, because of the time frame that this came out, it went completely unnoticed. But yeah, they were coming around Air Force One flying around our F-35s. They were spotted as far as 20 miles up the coast from where the president was at the time by people on the ground observing them coming in, staying in the area, and then moving back out in the direction that they came. Is there precedent for this? I mean, have you ever heard about another scenario where we have UAP flying around Air Force One? I mean, has that been seen? Yeah, so it's funny that you bring that up.

So there are three other incidents that have been reported involving Air Force One, one in 2006 in Washington. one, and that was an oval ball orb again, being chased by military aircraft by Air Force One. Another one in Mesa, Arizona in 2002. Five minutes after Air Force One passed by, this dark object is flying along and in the direction. And then in 1998, there's another one of silver orb flying in proximity to Air Force One. Again, and that would be more of your tick-tack, not perfect orb shape, but almost like egg shape. UAP. And not only that, there have been other incidents reported publicly about, you know,

UAP being seen around Air Force One. That's incredible to me. I mean, it feels like that should be a big story that we get a lot of attention. And again, maybe just because of the time frame, it happened around Christmas, we didn't hear too much about it. But was this investigated, Anthony? Was this something that was looked at to say, okay, we know something was flying near Air Force One. And it's happened before. What was it?

I mean, what was kind of the thought process on this as it was looked into? You know, where the resolution is or where the final stance is, I don't know. know, but I think President Obama had a very interesting quote after he left office. And I'm not quoting directly because I'd butcher it. But he came out and said that, yes, there are things flying in our airspace that we have no idea what they are and we still can't determine what they are. And I think that's very telling for a president to say that, knowing that these things have been near Air Force One, following Air Force One, we've had fighter escorts around our president. whenever he travels for a long time. As a matter of fact, whenever the president moves, it usually

involves several C-17s, moving his limousines and security team and all that. It's a big move. It's not a small logistical feat. So there have been many witnesses to these things over the years. Where our government is on resolution of these, you'll probably find little to know evidence of any firsthand witnesses wanting to even talk about it. It's incredible. I mean, you're talking about F-35s. I mean, I guess maybe engaging is too strong of a word, but like they saw it. They knew it was there, right? I mean, this wasn't something like it caught them by surprise.

They knew that this object was around them. So if it's following Air Force One and we've got some of our fifth generation fighters tracking it and they don't shoot it, then either A, they know it's a threat or B, they know that shooting at it is futile because they can't hit it. you know a variety of possibilities but yeah good luck finding anything that that gives any level of certainty as to what that is or any firsthand account that's willing to discuss it and again you know it's something i don't believe in coincidences when it comes to this discussion of uap when you talk about how we started when it comes to the black triangles just happening upon, you know, secret military locations. Right.

Have, you know, nuke or nukes and things like that. Then you have this UAP, you know, just happening across Air Force One while the president is on board. Now, I know we've had other reports, many reports over decades, even going back to World War 2, you know, with the food fighters and things like that, passenger planes. And so we've, we've had a lot of reports of UAPs, UFOs being seen by pilots, Air Force one or not, but it just seems, you know, interesting to me, striking even, that it would be seen around Air Force One, and this isn't the only time it's happened.

It's it just makes you wonder, you know, what's what's the purpose of that targets? What do they know, whoever it is? Yep. Yep. No, I wish I had a better answer for you on that. I don't. And, you know, it's a topic that doesn't seem to be open for discussion with the people involved for sure. But, you know, this goes back decades to incidents of UAP flying right over.

the capital right over D.C. Yeah, back in the 50s. Yeah, chased by fighters of the day, you know, unsuccessfully all the way up till today. We tend to look at UAP incidents with what we know today. You know, what is our technology today? What could these things be today? But none of the technology from the 30s, 40s, 50s explains what these craft are doing, you know, in our airspace, you know, and what witnesses are seeing that far about.

Yeah, it's a really good point. I think that's a point that some people miss. And some of the debunkers miss, quite frankly, where they say, well, you know, we'll just use Air Force One as an example. Well, that's obviously China spying on Air Force One using some type of advanced military drone. Okay, well, then how do you explain it 80 years ago? Right. Right. You have to think outside of today's constructs. And I think people feel to do that. Yeah, and I think that's an easy and easy mistake to make, you know, is just looking at the most recent incidents. You know, most of these are not one-offs anymore. Most of the things have been seen and reported for decades and decades and decades. So, okay, maybe there's some technology close today that we could write that off, but how do you write that off 50 years ago? How do you write that off 70 years ago when there's no technology near that? And if you think back to World War II and the flu fighters, the United States is involved in a war that by the time we got into it overtly, we weren't even sure if it could be won. When I invaded Iraq, you know, there was no doubt in my mind.

I didn't know how many casualties we would take, but I knew without a doubt we were going to defeat the Iraqi army swiftly. In World War II, they had no idea. So if there was this obscure, you know, exquisite capability or technology that, we had, we threw everything that the nation had at that war. That's something that we would have done. So how do you explain those sightings then? How do you explain that technology existing in our terrestrial space then? Yeah, that's a great question.

And I think it's an important thing to point out. Off topic real quick, because I want to get into the sightings by Eglin Air Force Base in central Florida as well over the past few months. Do you know of any shootdowns? I guess that you can speak about or attempted shootdowns, orders to pursue and shoot down? Yeah, so really nothing more than, as far as from our military, anything like that really is either super public or really squashed. So you take the, you know, go back just to very recent history. And you look at the Chinese spy balloon.

We watched this thing traverse all over the United States. I don't know that you or anyone else would know about it if it wasn't so large and it wasn't spotted by people on the ground saying, hey, what is that? And that was directional in nature. It could shift direction. And it conveniently drifted where the wind blew it and where it steered over all of our most sensitive spaces. is after that happened and after the government was held publicly to account for that, there were the shootdowns of these other objects, right? And that made pretty public knowledge, really, if you look at it from the, from the ability to save face.

Hey, you think we didn't do enough about that first one. Here's what we're doing about these. But there's nothing really that came out after of what it was. You know, it's a crazy excuse that, oh, yeah, well, we didn't know what it was, so we shot it. That's insane. We would ever, ever, ever do that as a military. Yeah, that's like you saying, oh, I heard something in my kitchen, so I shot it. That could be your wife or kid.

You're going to identify if it's a threat or what it is. That's the most insane excuse I've ever heard. So other shoot downs by our military or other attempts to shoot down. They're either super overt or not heard of at all. That said, there are a lot of incidences that have been made public about other governments attempting to shoot these down. Me, firsthand knowledge from our own military, I don't have any incidents that I can point to where I know that our fighters for sure attempted to engage with. The closest thing would probably be the Ryan Graves incident or Dave Fraver, where they actually maneuvered, tried to close distance with, and, you know, unarmed or, you know, without hostile intent, dog fighting these things.

There have been several cases of that off the East Coast, off of Florida, of our fighters attempting to maneuver on. But as far as actually launching a missile off the platform, I don't know of any specific cases where that's taken place from our military. It's fascinating, though. and we mentioned Florida. So it's kind of in a hotbed down here in my neck of the woods. There's been sightings in central Florida from military members that I'm sure you've heard about over the past couple of months, especially going back into December.

A lot of stuff by Eglin Air Force Base over by, you know, Destin in the Panhandle area of Florida. What the heck is going on here? What are you hearing about? What are people seeing? I mean, what's the situation? Yeah, so Florida, so there are some, the hot spots of reporting, incredible reporting seems to be around where our military sensors are, right? And that is, is that because there's more of them there or we just have better sensors to see them?

You know, juries out on that. And a lot of people have different theories about that. And I won't, I won't speculate as to why that is. But the East Coast from about Northern Virginia, Maryland, down through the Carolinas is a training range off the coast. And there have been multiple, multiple, multiple reports from Navy fighter pilots that are identifying these things or are directed to go investigate these things that are off our coast. Very similarly off the coast of California, and those training ranges, there are a large. number of UAP spotted attempt to maneuver on and identify trying to get close to, some that are visible, some that are only picked up on sensors. Oddly enough, another massive hot spot is over

Egglin Air Force Base, over Central Florida, and over both the Gulf and the Atlantic Coast all over Florida. Now, this is this AV, but it's also Air Force area. And Eglin Air Force Base is one of the the largest Air Force bases that we have down there, extremely active for fighter aircraft, extremely active for training, extremely active for joint training with both Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, you know, combined arms fighting. And there have been a large amount of UAP seen by civilian centers,

and only a few reported by military. military pilots in those areas, which goes back to our last discussion of where's the Air Force. There's all these things reported in the area, and a lot of them by civilians that can't be explained, but they're very common to the other things we're seeing off the coast by the Navy. When it comes to the Air Force, I mean, is it sounds kind of silly, but is it just not of interest to them or are they focused on other things, or is there something else going on there? Like you said, you would think that this would be more of a focus, especially given the area that these sightings are happening.

Yeah, I think there's got to be more to it, right? So I think there's got to be more to it other than this is something in our air and we're not interested. I don't think that's it at all, especially the type of objects. There are discs. There are triangle objects, all these flying over there. There's some within 100 feet of the ground over Highway 98. and Okalusa Walton County line, you know, there are all sorts of very credible sighting. So why aren't they reporting it?

Well, Eglin, you know, Eglin, in addition to, you know, all of the fighter aircraft and things that happen there, it's one of their special operations hubs, and there are supposedly, according to certain people, you know, very sensitive kept secrets in that area. the one where our congressional delegates attempted to go to gain access, Representative Luna, I believe Tim Burchett was with, and they got stopped at the gate and got into a very heated altercation with the base commander to the point where there had to be a re-education as to the fact that our government works for the civilian leadership.

At that point, they were allowed in, but we're basically put into a room and got to talk to very uneducated people that seemingly knew nothing. So there's a lot of mystery around Eglin Air Force Base when it comes to this topic. I have friends that are stationed there. I have friends that work there. I've been there TDY multiple times.

The fact that the locals in the area all throughout Florida report so much of this, but the Air Force is so silent. The only explanation I can come up with is that it's deliberate. Wow. And I guess that would lead me, personally to two conclusions as far as why would the Air Force deliberately be,

I guess, you know, covering something up, covering up activity or kind of, you know, maybe sweeping under the rug, it would come down to two things for me. Number one, for obvious reasons, they want to cover up the secret because it's something they're investigating and it's highly classified so they don't want to talk about it or make it public. Or number two, it's experimental aircraft that they're involved with. and that's why people are seeing so much of it. And that kind of goes back to the theory of, you know,

the extremely large black triangles. But then it also comes back to the practicality issue that you spoke about. So I don't know which way to go with this, but something's being seen. And the Air Force is seemingly not really publicly anyway, jumping on the ball with it, which is just odd to me. Yeah. So to me it comes down to two things.

Either A, they know what it is. Yeah. So they're not. They don't want to talk about it. It's classified. Whatever that is, whether it's, you know, our own experimental aircraft or something else, they either, A, know what it is, or B, they don't know what it is, and it could create chaos. So if our Air Force has no idea what is flying around in impunity, and that fact came out to the public, that could create chaos in itself.

So to me, it's one of two things. Either, A, they know what it is, or B, they have no. idea what it is and and neither of those are okay so they want to keep that quiet yeah and it's interesting because again this is this isn't like you know hearsay with you know uh you know sugar cane farmers in central florida or you know something like that this is these are these are military operatives and citizens who are seeing these things they're everybody seeing the same thing central florida panhandle area like you said both coasts gulf coasts atlantic coasts who are seeing these things flying around in all shapes, which was interesting.

I didn't know that. You talked about classic saucer. You talk about, you know, the, the orbs, the spheres, all these different shapes of, you know, UFOs, UAPs that have been seen. And people are seeing them modern day times right now happening. And I've been told even outside of our conversations from people I know, friends who have friends, you know, in the military in that area that saying, yeah, they're seeing these things and they don't know what it is.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's, that's, you know, that is, that is the most common thing. And it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is concerning. I think it's why, you know, I think it's why this discussion has become so public and there's so much interest in it more than there has been before. And the fact that we're getting, the fact that we're getting validation from, from leaders in government, we, you know, we still have a large number of people that want to hush, hush, make it go away. But the fact that we're getting congressional attention, military witnesses, speaking out,

former presidents talking about it, it's bringing light to the topic now that demands attention. Oh, it certainly does. And hopefully we get more and more attention with answers, because I think that's the main thing, right? Sure, everybody's wondering, what am I seeing? You know, we don't know how to answer it. And it's happening. It's not like people are seeing things. And that's where we end, part one.

I guess you can say like an intermission. Part two will be out in a few days. Let's let this one breathe for a few days. And then on Monday, what day is that? The 26th, February 26th, I'll go ahead and release part two where you're going to hear about again. That new whistleblower testimony. That has not come out yet. It has not been made public.

But Anthony Williams is able to shed some light on some of the details. And the whistleblower himself, no names given, no names. But some of the details and who this whistleblower, his background, I should say. We're not saying who it is, but you hear more about his background. And again, information that is nowhere else right now. You're going to hear that in part two of this UAP weekly special with Anthony Williams. And he interviews me in part two as well. So that's going to be a lot of fun to hear.

And of course, make sure you're following the UAP and all the social platforms at UA Podcast 850, most active on Twitter. so you can see a lot of updates there. You know, a lot of stuff going on. And you can email me at S-Deneru-A-P at g-mail.com. That's S-D-I-E-N-E-R-U-A-P at Gmail.com. But again, that'll do it for now here on this part one. This new special with Anthony Williams,

boy, a lot of information to take in there, especially with those giant triangle UFOs. It's just so much going on. A lot of questions still to be answered. But I'll talk to you again next time right here UAP Weekly, it's Stephen Deiner. Have a good one.