UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP Weekly Special Edition - The UAP Hearings

Episode Date: July 27, 2023

It was undoubtedly a historic day for disclosure and for the world as three major witnesses spoke under oath in front of Congress for the first time in regards to the existence of other worldly beings and technology. Stephen Diener unpacks it all here in this special edition of UAP.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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UFO, UAP community that has been starving for a day like we had like yesterday, but also for the world, for this country and for the world. And I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say that. So we're going to go through a lot here today. I didn't skimp out on anything. I really, what I might, the goal of today was to come in here and really dive in to everything that we heard and try to react to it with you because it was incredible. And I don't think I'm alone in thinking that. There was a lot of positive reaction. You're always going to have your naysayers, but there was a lot of positive reaction to the congressional hearing yesterday with

David Grush and David Fravor and Ryan Graves. So I'm going to go through a lot of what was said and give you a lot of the reaction from that and just, you know, some thoughts as we review together what we heard and what we experienced. And first, just I want to throw out a couple of initial thoughts before I get into some of the sound to kind of relive that or if you haven't heard it at all, then this is a good place to be because we got a lot of good stuff. again, just to kind of highlight what happened. It was historic. There is no way around that. Whether or not you are even interested in it or you think it's real or not, it doesn't even matter. The fact is what we heard yesterday was, yes, testimony that you and I may have heard before, but we've heard it.

And this is the point I was trying to make last week. It's stuff that we've heard on interviews, whether it's on YouTube, or podcasts or even, you know, news interviews. The fact that we heard it under oath in front of Congress, in front of the world yesterday, is what made that historic. It's what made yesterday a game changer Wednesday, July 26th. That's what made it so significant was to have those three men who are incredibly brave to do what they do to come out and talk about the stuff in the public, knowing the risk that they put themselves,

at. To do that on a public stage in a public setting is really what was surreal to me. I don't know if you felt the same way when you were watching. I almost felt like it was watching a movie. It felt big. You know when you're watching something and you can just feel like in the moment, wow, this is significant. And that's how I felt personally yesterday as I saw, you know, Ryan Graves talk about the capabilities of these UAP that he's seen. And, you know, David Fravor talk about the Tick-Tac, the famous Tick-Tac in 2004, and of course David Grush with all his testimony. So we're going to go through all those things.

But I just wanted to put that out there first in saying that I thought it was absolutely historic, significant, big. I'll even use the word revolutionary in some cases because not only did it signify a change in the, I think in the course, in the outlook of the way that people look at these things. things and in the course of the way that it will be handled in the future because this is the first of many. It really is just the beginning of these investigations and these hearings. There will be more into this as we go along.

But it also kind of legitimized, and I hate to use that word because it makes it sound like we were all fake before. But to a lot of people who don't pay attention to this issue, it legitimized, you know, podcasts like this one or, you know, the work that Jeremy Corbell does or George Knapp, the incredible work that he's done over the years or anybody, you know, Ross Coldheart, anybody who has appeared on a show that has hosted a show that has been getting this word out or trying to get the word out for years now, it really legitimized things like this, platforms like this, to the mass populace, I think. And that's, that's important. It really is. Because now,

people who are interested in haven't heard these testimonies before, they might go back and say, oh, wow, you know, this is where Ryan Graves said this on Jeremy Corbell or on Joe Rogan or this is where, you know, so-and-so said this. So it just, it was big. It was a lot that we've been waiting for. And like I said, I think it's just the beginning. So I want to get into some of this, what was said and react off of that with you right now. This, this, there was a lot of great stuff said, obviously, this first one I want to play was from David Grush, where he said unequivocally, again,

under oath, the big moments that we do have UAPs in our possession. You have also said some of these answers in the past, we're trying to get them on the public record as well, which is really important. Mr. Grush, finally, do you believe that our government is in possession of UAPs? Absolutely, based

on interviewing over 40 witnesses over four years. And where? I know the exact locations, and those locations were provided to the Inspector General and some of which to the intelligence committees. I actually had the people with the firsthand knowledge provide a protected disclosure to the Inspector General. Okay, so a couple of things I want to touch on there. First one is, and there's the specific reason why I left that maybe first five seconds in there where the representative, I believe that was Representative Robert

Garcia, I believe so, where he was asking, he kind of had that exchange with David Grush there. And the first thing he said in the clip was, I know you've answered. these questions before in other settings, but it's important for us to get these answers on the record. That was the whole point to this. I know some people complained about how, oh, this is only going to be things that we've heard before in other interviews. And I get that. We all want to see the pictures and we want to see the videos and the hard proof and the physical evidence. I understand. Okay. I'm with you on that. But the point of this hearing yesterday, which is what made it so big, was what Representative Garcia said right there.

We want to get your answers on the record. That's what made one of the reasons why this was so big yesterday. And then of course what David Grush said there, which was, then he was bold. He was bold in a lot of his statements, and this was one of them where he said, I can basically tell you where to find them, not in a public setting.

You mentioned the skiff a lot and what he can, he cannot say inside or outside of a skiff, which by the way, in case you don't know what that, means because it occurred to me yesterday when I was listening to this or watching this hearing and listening. My wife was sitting next to me. She said, what's a skiff? And it kind of hit me. I'm like, yeah, I guess not everybody knows what that means. So it stands for, it's SCIF in case you don't know, which is fine, means sensitive compartment compartmented information facility. That's a mouthful, which is why you see they shorten it to skiff. So essentially it's just a

fancy way of saying a secret meeting room. So, you know, soundproof, everything like that. That way it's a safe place to talk about confidential information. That is a skiff. So, of course, that was brought up a lot yesterday from David Grush and Fravor and Graves, that, you know, there's only so much they can say in a public setting like they were at yesterday. One of the things, too, that really struck me that David Grush said that I don't have the sound of, but which is why I just want to bring it up. He talked about the possibility of other dimensions. And that was really striking to me because that was one of those things where, again, one of those surreal moments where you say to yourself, oh my gosh, I can't believe someone's actually talking about this under oath in front of Congress.

But Grush did. He spoke about the possibilities of, you know, these UAPs or other life forms coming from, you know, other dimensions that may be parallel our own dimension. He used that. He actually said that as a theory. He said that's not a fact that he knows, but it's a theory. And it was in response to one of the representatives who was asking him. And this was more of a skeptic question, which I love. I'm glad that some of these representatives were skeptics because it made for more interesting conversation.

When he asked, you know, if these, and this is something we've heard a lot, where he asked, you know, if these aliens are so advanced, how could they just be crashing here on Earth? Or they can travel from, you know, light years away, but they're just crash here on Earth. How stupid is that? How silly? And I'm paraphrasing. And that's when David Grush kind of gave that answer about, well, you know, one theory is there might be this, you know, hologram type of thing that goes into quantum mechanics and they're coming from other dimensions that kind of run parallel to our own. So that was, again, I think the best word to use is striking to hear that being said in that setting.

And he talked about no others could have this tech. In fact, all three of them spoke about that. And you've heard me speak about that before with my own sources who have been on the show. talking about, yeah, if it's not ours, then it's not anyone else's. It's as simple as that because they steal our stuff. So if it's not our own stuff,

then it's essentially out of this world. And there are those other possibilities. We've spoken about it before, and I still don't discount this possibility that some of the things that are seen could be ours, but are part of these blackout programs that Congress is being

stonewalled on. Some of it might be ours. Some of it may not be ours. that's what they're trying to get to the bottom of. Now, this next thing here that I want to play actually is from Ryan Graves, and this was really fascinating because this caught the attention of a lot of the representatives who were there. When he talked about the performance of these things and what they can withstand and basically how their laws of physics don't apply to ours. Some of the behaviors that we saw in a working area, we would see these objects being at 0.0 Mach. That's zero air speed.

over certain pieces of the ground. So what that means, just like a river, if you throw a bobber in, it's going to float downstream. These objects were staying completely stationary in category four hurricane winds. These same objects would then accelerate to supersonic speeds, 1.1, 1.2 Mach. They would do so in very erratic and quick behaviors

that I don't have an explanation for. So that raised a lot of eyebrows because, you know, again, on the record in front of Congress, we were speaking about instantaneous acceleration from 0.0 mock to 1.2 or 1.1 just instantaneously. Boom, gone. And those are the things that Ryan Graves has spoken about before, but was able to get on the record yesterday in front of everybody.

And I can tell you from experience living in South Florida, I know, I understand what a category for a hurricane is. So if you can't relate to that, I just want to let you know that is very, very strong. and I'm sure you've seen clips on the news and things like that of strong hurricanes. You know, I've felt category three hurricane wins before. Thankfully, I've never gone through a category four hurricane direct hit. Please God, don't let that happen. You know, in my area, unfortunately, it happens a lot in Florida.

But I can tell you that those are very, very strong wins. So to talk about, you know, a craft that's able to to just sit there and not be affected by Category 4 wins, which measure around 130 miles per hour to 150 miles per hour, I guess is a better way to put it, just to kind of put it into perspective. That's impressive. That's very impressive to not be affected by that. And of course, we don't have anything like that, which is what Ryan Graves was getting at. Hey, guys, so before we get back into the conversation, I just want to talk about something that

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Of course, Tim Burchett and Annapalina Luna represented from Florida and Tim Burchett from Tennessee. Of course, they were instrumental, probably two biggest names along with Matt Gates from Florida and Jared Moskowitz from Florida. A lot of Florida connections in getting this. hearing to happen, just straight up to even get this in front of everybody's eyes and ears yesterday. So this was an exchange that he had with David Grush talking about the scare tactics and even worse that Grush was aware of. It was very brutal and very unfortunate. Some of the

tactics they used to hurt me both professionally and personally to be quite frank. Yeah. Should you have any personal knowledge of people who have been harmed or injured? in efforts to cover up or conceal these extraterrestrial technology? Yes. Personally. Have you heard? Have anyone been murdered that you would think, that you know of or have heard of, I guess? I have to be careful asking that question.

I directed people with that knowledge to the appropriate authorities. Maybe in a, if we could get in a confidential area of SCIF, we could talk about that. But unfortunately, we were denied access to the SCIF. and that's very unfortunate in this scenario. Just huge, huge stuff there. Obviously, a couple of things to touch on. The first one, of course, is David Grush put you out in the open. Yeah, you know, not only have I gone through Hellen Back,

but I know of other people who have gone through different scenarios, whether it might be murder. Of course, you couldn't go into specifics or just other scare tactics. And that's frightening. It's unsettling. You know, I mean, this is why, because of testimony like that, you can either believe David Grush or you can think he's an absolute narcissistic psychopath who's making this all up and doesn't care that he's lying under oath in front of Congress. It's one or the other, okay?

He's either dead on about it or it's option B. I personally don't think it's option B, but if you want to go that way, that's your call. but when you hear him say something like that it really kind of puts into perspective why and how this secret so to speak has been able to be kept for so long because that's another thing that people talk about

well if this is going on how could they keep this secret this secret is too big how can it not come out well it has but a lot of people don't pay attention but also it's not out in the mainstream because of quite frankly frankly, disinformation campaigns that the media runs through the government agencies and entities that have these things that have these technologies, but also because of the scare tactics,

because their lives are threatened, because their families are threatened, or their livelihoods are threatened, or their pensions are threatened, whatever it might be. Fear is a very powerful tool, and it has been for centuries. It has been for millennia, quite frankly. And that's what these entities have been able to use and how they've been able to keep this under wraps from the general masses for in modern day speaking past 80, 90 years. That's how. Okay? In case you're wondering what David Grush said right there. And that kind of goes to the shadow government as well, right? You always hear about the secret government, whether or not you want to believe in all that stuff.

This is kind of what that was all about too, but I'll get to that later. I'll shelve that thought for right now because I want to get to this part here. This is probably the biggest moment. This is the one that's making all the rounds. This was the sound bite that has shown up all over social media and over traditional media where David Grush was speaking with Nancy Mace, representative from South Carolina. And she straight up asked him. Do we have non-human bodies?

There you go. If you believe we have crashed craft stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? As I've stated publicly already in my news nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries. Yeah. Were they, I guess, human or non-human biologics? Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to

that are currently still on the program. And was this documentary evidence, this video, photos, eyewitness? Like, how would that be determined? The specific documentation I would have to talk to you in a skiff about. Gotcha. So I think that speaks for itself, really.

Again, that was one of the huge moments where for the first time in modern history, you had somebody of David Grush's status coming out in front of Congress, in front of the world under oath, and saying that, that he has been told, are in possession of not only retrieved craft from crash sites, but also the bodies, non-human

bodies that came with them. I mean, does it get any bigger than that? A lot of people point to that and said, there is your disclosure. Now, I know a lot of people still want more. They want physical. They want visual. And I get that. But that's probably one of the most significant moments in, I guess you can say disclosure history that I've been a part of or that. I've been a part of that I've seen, again, just one of those surreal moments like, holy cow, that really just happened. He really just said that for everyone to hear. This was also another, this was actually right after that, really interesting exchange still with Nancy Mace. I actually thought she had a great line of questioning. I thought she did a really good job questioning David Grush and the

others. This is where they talked about, David Grush can name names. Who in the government either, what agency, sub-agency, what contractors, who should be called into the next hearing about UAPs, either in a public setting or even in a private setting? And you probably can't name names, but what agencies or organizations, contractors, etc., do we need to call in to get these questions answered, whether it's about funding, what programs are happening, and what's out there? I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those.

And how soon can we get that list? I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing. This guy ain't scared, man. You got to hand to David Grush. Honestly, I know, again, whatever you want to think of him or his testimony yesterday, along with Ryan Graves and David Fraver is up to you. But, man, the flak that this guy is getting, the heat that he's getting from the position that he was in. And for him to come out and say, under oath,

I can give you names and locations of cooperative and non-cooperative, where he used the word hostile witnesses right after this hearing. Woo! That is major stuff. And man, I wish I could be a fly in the wall after that hearing because I'm wondering if that took place. I'd like to assume it did.

I'd like to assume that he was able to sit in a secure setting with Representative Mace and other representatives and say, here you go. Here's a list. Go for it. You know, as you continue to investigate this. And that takes me to the thought I was mentioning before when it comes to the so-called secret god

or shadow government, whatever you want to refer to it as, this is the kind of stuff that people have spoken about. And I think whatever you want to say about the issue as far as life on other planets or are we alone in the universe, you know, all those different things. If you want to put that aside, if you want to shelve that, okay, and just look at this from the angle of Congress is being stonewalled by Pentagon officials. You heard Tim Burchett in one of those clips a little while ago talking about how they weren't you know, basically cleared to have this information that David Grusher is talking about,

that they have been stonewalled by, you know, military officials at Eglon Air Force Base to be able to look into some different files and things like that. That's one of the biggest issues with this as well. That shouldn't be overshadowed. You have Congress basically being told, no, you're not. important enough and you you don't get to have oversight over us that if you just want to look at that angle that's huge that is a very very big thing and that's basically what is what's happening I mean say what you want about it that is happening behind the scenes as we speak that you have

the United States Congress being told you can't be made privy to this information and they're being told that by different officials in the Pentagon and these you know contracting groups and, you know, military officials at these bases, that's not the way it's supposed to be. That's not how things are supposed to be run. They're supposed to be oversight. And things are happening behind their back, which is what I've been told to begin with.

So, and what I've, you know, discussed with you here on this show. So those two things go hand in hand to me. Of course, the disclosure issue, of course, that is, you know, life changing, planet changing. But to look at the other end, too, if you just want to ignore that part, at least realize what's happening on the back end there when it comes to these companies or these entities think they're too big to have oversight.

And that shouldn't be the case. So we've talked about David Grush a lot and even Ryan Graves. But what about David Fraver? I haven't played anything from him. Of course, he was the one who was involved with the Tic Tac, the famous USS Nimitz 2004, the Tick-Tac video. Well, Fraver was the commander. during that whole thing.

And so he, you know, pretty good information about what was going on. And this was an awesome exchange, I thought, between him and a representative from New York named Nick Langworthy. And you can hear, I want you to really listen to this. And here, Representative Langworthy's, I guess, like his wheel spinning.

As he continues the question, it's a little long, it's about a minute. But you can hear, as he's giving his line of questioning, you can almost hear it in Representative Langworthy's voice like, wait a minute. So you're saying this? Wait, so you're saying, I'll just let you listen. It was really fascinating. From what you saw that day and what you've seen on video, did you see any source of propulsion

from the flying object, including on any potential thermal scans from your aircraft? No, there's none. There's no IR plume coming out. And Chad, who took the video, went through all the EO, which is black and white TV and the IR modes. And there's no visual signs of propulsion. It's just sitting in space at 20,000 feet. In your career, have you ever seen a propulsion system that creates no thermal exhaust? No.

Can you describe how the aircraft maneuvered? Abruptly, very determinate. It knew exactly what it was doing. It was aware of our presence, and it had acceleration rates. I mean, it went from zero to matching our speed in no time at all. Now, if the fastest plane on Earth was trying to do these maneuvers that you saw, would it be capable of doing that? No, not even close. And just to confirm, this object had no wings, correct?

No wings. If the aircraft was armed, do you believe that your aircraft or any aircraft in possession of the United States could have shot the tick-tack down? I'd say no, just on the performance it would just left in a split second. It looks like that we have a problem here that needs further investigation. Yes. There is the realization. Yes, you heard David Fravor at the end say, yes. That's what we've been trying to say. That's what these guys have been trying to say for a while.

And they finally have the attention and they finally had the stage yesterday. That's what made that so big. I think that really encapsulates my point. And the why people felt like yesterday, that was a landmark day for the disclosure effort. Because you had those moments, those aha moments from the people who, need to have them. That's what made it so big. You had these people who never considered these things.

You're always, you know, waved it off and said, ah, that's that ten foil, a hat conspiracy, little green men stuff. We're not going to talk about that on Capitol Hill. Well, now they are talking about it. And now they're realizing that, huh, this is pretty important. Yes, it is. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world. and 10% of all e-commerce in the U.S.

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This was another part here that David Grush Kind of going back to him Where I think this was actually an exchange I forget who this was with but anyway He talked about witnessing disturbing things And this kind of goes back to earlier Where he was talking about the scare tactics and things like that That he's witnessed himself and that has been done to him

personally. So here's where he's talking about some of the disturbing things that he's come across. I know of multiple colleagues of mine that got physically injured. And the activity by UAPs

or by people within the federal government. Both. What I personally witnessed myself and my wife was very disturbing. So it gives you a little pause when you hear that. It's unsettling, you know? I think that's the best way to put it.

And it's not surprising. I mean, if you've been following along with all this, it shouldn't be surprising. This is the kind of stuff that's been alleged for decades, how they silence people. And then it kind of goes in here. This was, I think, important as well. We're all three men.

David Fravor, David Grush, and Ryan Graves. They were questioned by a representative toward the end of the hearing, actually. This might have been right out. at the end, I think, I believe, where they were asked a few different questions, and I thought they were very poignant questions, and so I'm going to play all that for you right now. So again, I apologize for some of these things being a little bit longer than normal on sound that I would play, but I felt that this stuff was worth it.

So this is about a minute, but again, it's pretty important, so here you go. Based off of your own experience or the data that you've been privy to, is there any indication that these UAPs could be essentially collecting reconnaissance information? Mr. Graves? Yes. Mr. Grush? Fair assessment. Mr. Fravor.

Very possible. Again, in the national security vein, is it possible that these UIPs would be probing our capabilities? Yes. Gras? Yes. Fravers? Definitely. Is it possible that these UAPs are testing for vulnerabilities in our,

current systems? Yes. Yes. Possible. Do you feel, based off of your experience and the information that you've been privy to, that these UAPs provide an existential threat to the national security of the United States? Mr. Graves? Potentially. Yes, sir, potentially. Same answer, potentially. Yeah, I'd say definitely, potentially. Mr. Graves and Fraver, you know, in the event that your encounters have become hostile, would you have, would you have had the capability to defend yourself, your crew, your aircraft? Absolutely not. Sir.

No. Now, I know that might be controversial for some people because there's, and some of this might be controversial because, you know, there's different ideologies when it comes to how people view this subject. There's some crowd that thinks, you know, that extraterrestrials would be completely peaceful, that they have no qualms with us, that they're only here to help. And then you have other people who say, well, they just view us as ants or experiments, you know, like we would look at mice in a cage. And so there's a lot of different theories and a lot of different, dare I use the word dogmas, when it comes to this situation, when it comes to the views of how people look at all this.

So when you have all three men confirming the possible dangers to U.S. security or to the security of the human race or to, you know, basically reconnaissance, you know, talking about monitoring us or our weapon systems. You know, that might rub some people the wrong way, but this is what these guys are saying. And actually, one of the questions

that wasn't in that sound there was, are they interested? Do you believe they're interested in our nuclear capabilities? And they all said, absolutely. And that is absolute confirmation to all the stories that we've heard, whether it be mouse from Air Force Base from the 60s when they shut down the nukes.

I mean, all the different stories we've heard about, you know, nuclear submarines experiencing UAPs flying by or anything like that. There's been numerous, numerous stories always connected to some type of missile launch or test or, you know, base or anything, anything having to do with military. It'll, you always hear, maybe not always, but a lot of times we hear this connection. between the two. So to hear them say at the end, absolutely they're interested in our nuclear capabilities. That raised some eyebrows as well, which is why these investigations are going to go on, or at least that's one of the reasons why. Final sound I have here is from Representative Matt

Gates, so again from my home state of Florida, where he spoke, and he actually spoke about this during the hearing as well, but this comes from an interview that was done after the hearing outside of Capitol Hill. He spoke about the craft that he did see that was shown to him that is supposedly allegedly being held at Eglon Air Force Base. Here's where he spoke a little bit about that. At Eglon Air Force Base, I saw things that did not appear from human origin. And I hope that we're able to get that information before the entire Congress.

That's probably all I can say about it. All right. So let me just try to wrap this up here by saying, I started this show two years ago. Okay. Been doing the Unidentified Alien podcast since July of 2021. If you had told me on that first episode that two years from then, at the end of July in 2023, that I would have been playing sound of a United States representative saying

what Matt Gates just said there, that I've seen a craft and that everybody else needs to see it. If you had told me that I was going to be playing that just in two short years from this very first from the very first episode of this podcast, I would have called you absolutely out of your mind. But here we are. That's how quickly this has progressed. To think about all of the secrecy that has taken place, all the disinformation campaigns, everything that has taken place to keep these things underground, to keep them hidden or to keep them in, you know, the dark sectors of the internet or whatever it may be. And now, and two short years, we've gone from basically 80 years of secrecy to we need to get this out in the open.

It's incredible. No pun intended, but it's gone at light speed, quite honestly. But that's where we are. And I've said it before, or I said it earlier in the show, and I'll say it again, I really do believe that this is only the beginning. You already have, actually Matt Gates talked about, you know, possible, um, things like subpoena powers to get more answers in private settings in a skiff or having select committees to further investigate these things. Now, what might be frustrating in the future is that you may not have the public hearings

like we saw yesterday. But even if we don't have those public hearings, I think we still will have more of those in the future. But I think what might be frustrating to some, including myself, is that some of these things will be happening behind closed doors. But that's just the nature of the game. I mean, I know we all want to hear what's going on, but there are some things that can't be talked about

because of classification rules. They can only be talked about in those secret media rooms, right? The skiffs. So some of that stuff might happen behind closed doors, but the fact of the matter is, it's happening. And that's what we can celebrate today is that it was a landmark day in this discussion. in this conversation is moving forward in a way that

I wasn't ever sure that we were going to see. And I think it was, yesterday is going to go a long, long way in bringing about more disclosure and I guess what you could consider maybe true disclosure one day where it all comes out in the open. There's a lot on the line. These companies do not want to lose their power. They do not want to lose their money.

These black op companies and black ops sites and all these things that are happening behind the scenes that people are being, you know, threatened and killed over. It's not going to happen overnight, but things are definitely moving in the right direction. And I can assure you of one thing. One thing for sure is I will be here to talk about it all with you as it happens on UAP,

the Unidentified Alien podcast. But that's going to do it for now. There's a lot going on. I'm happy to talk about it with you. I will be back, by the way, with episode 72. I do have that Well, not ready to go, but I have it to where I can get it out to you next week.

I know I was trying to get it. I was going to try to get it out to you by the end of this week, but obviously it was a little distracted with all this. So episode 72 of the original UAP will be out next week, early on next week. So I look forward to bringing that to you. In the meantime, of course, you can continue to download, subscribe to the show, wherever you get your podcast, Apple, Spot.

any of that good stuff. You can find the show on Twitter at UAP Podcast 850 and you could always get on there and we can discuss more things that are on your mind. So until next time on episode 72 of UAP,

have a great day. Be safe. Stephen Deener here on Identifinalian podcast. I'll talk to you soon.