Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 1 | How Jase Robertson Became Unashamed

Episode Date: April 28, 2019

Phil, Al, and Jase discuss trying to live a life unashamed of their faith and the changes in their lives that got them there. Jase fills everyone in on how Donald Trump Jr. sold him on supporting Dona...ld Trump for president. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome, everyone, to the inaugural. This is the first, the inaugural, unashamed podcast with Phil Robertson. We got Al Robertson, the famously beardless brother is what I'm known for, which is kind of interesting. I'm the only person in America that's introduced as beardless,
Starting point is 00:00:32 but that's because of you guys. And then we got Jays here, who is one of our regulars here on the Unashamed podcast. Jay is going to drop in from time to time, give us some of his wisdom. Glad to be here. And of course, the star of our show, Phil Robertson, who you guys have probably been following on Blaze TV. This is a new beginning for us, and we're coming to you from our command center, the Unashamed Command Center, which is just up the road from where we grew up.
Starting point is 00:01:05 And where mom and dad still live? By the way, it's the same house that we grew up in as well. So what has that been? 40 years later. 40 years. Well, you realize it was the summer of 1976. We drove right down the road right here, just outside where we're at today. Dirt Road.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Dirt Road. Jase, you were about to turn seven years old. Do you remember? Yeah, I remember because Phil, as soon as we taught the, the hill he said we'll take it we didn't even make it to the house he just saw the river it's a fantastic view here that we have outside the window we're kind of up on the hill uh on the high ground which these days is a good thing i was the lab and dad do you realize you were 30 years old when we first came younger than jeff young than much younger than jep he's he's fixing b 40 our roots
Starting point is 00:01:58 were were simple uh it's a bummer that they've now the microbe hunters the microbe hunters the microbe hunter's of America. They're everywhere. They came up with now, and this is scary. You mentioned you were beardless, Al. They've now proven that men's whiskers
Starting point is 00:02:18 have more microbes and germs in them than dogs' hair. Really? Where did you read that? I heard the same thing. I saw it yesterday. They said, that's all of it. And they had a lot of people with beard. They mentioned Duck Dynasty and us,
Starting point is 00:02:35 during the conversation. Really? Yeah, the beard you're wearing, Jets, contains more microbes than the hair around a dog's butt. So I just want to let you know that. And look, they showed a picture of the three beards, and one of them was Dad's Beard. One of them was my beard.
Starting point is 00:02:51 It was Dad's beard. Really? Yeah. That's a bummer. Well, that's what I'm telling you. I was feeling pretty good about it, you know. I mean, it keeps your face warm. It protects your face from the sun.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Nobody tries to mug you. You got it. Certain age and the hair just started coming out of your face. What do you do? Or was it put there? We're creationists. We believe God made the cosmos and mankind. Women, not too much hair coming out of their face.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Men, a lot of hair. Did he put it there to be shaved off? Or did he put it there for protection, whatever the microbe hunters say? I'm just saying men, most of them, have hair coming out of their face. For a reason. It was great camouflage. I think so. Just think of the money that you have saved in your lifetime.
Starting point is 00:03:40 And I'm 72 and whatever microbes are in my beard, evidently they're not fatal. So, because I'm still here. You can lay down with an old Labrador retriever and same stuff going on there both ways. Oh, yeah. With y'all. I was trying to figure out where you read that because you don't get on the internet. You don't have a cell phone. Fox News.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I'm sure it was five. He saw it. Oh, okay. Laura Ingram, one of the sisters. she's the one to come up with her. She wasn't buying it too much, but the dude with her, you know. I don't know about that. Orero or what's his name?
Starting point is 00:04:10 Raymond Aurora. Ororo. He came here with no facial hair and he still doesn't have any. I don't know who all these people are. Well, I don't know that much about them. That's what they said. So, I don't know, beards are good, I guess, if you like microbes. I guess that's another reason why I'm beardless.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I didn't know that, but that's pretty good. So a lot of people ask us, you know, it's hard to believe that the show has been off air now for two years, Duck Dynasty. And that's what kind of put us out there in the mainstream, so to speak, people knew who we were, which kind of brought the beards out there. So a lot of people ask, what do you guys do now, you know, that we don't do that. So just tell folks what you're into these days, two years removed. I travel around the country, not every weekend, but a lot of the weekends. and I give a duck call demonstration, some of them for a nominal fee, some of them for free.
Starting point is 00:05:07 But then I shared Jesus. I was just last weekend in Marilla, New York. Marilla, New York. I found something fascinating that I did not know. This is breaking news. I found a group of rednecks in New York. There is still hope for the United States of America. I thought you'd like that.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Look, the population was like 650, and there were, were 500 there. So, I mean, this, the whole town came out to Marilla. But actually, you know, a lot of these people, I think it was the first time they were introduced to Jesus, because the last thing they thought they were going to hear me talk about was Jesus. They just thought, oh, Duck Dynasty dude, he's going to tell some jokes and blow some duck calls.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yeah. And so at the end, I was like, if any of y'all, you know, I laid out my presentation, I made the case for Jesus. and about 35 to 40 pretty much bum rushed the stage and said we're in. So that was kind of exciting. Jace, there's still hope for the country. There is. I got involved in the stock market.
Starting point is 00:06:11 You know, I had some money in there. By the way, if you had moved south and given that same speech in the metropolitan part of New York, New York City. Yeah, it's like seven hours from New York City. Seven hours. If you had moved south. seven hours and you had given that that speech to the political figures or leadership of New York City. What do you think? They'd have bum rush the stage, all right? I might have got a little resistance, but I don't know. So they're repenting and coming to Jesus in the northern part of
Starting point is 00:06:46 New York. Yeah. But if you move southward down in the metropolitan areas, it would be at the risk of your life. Possibly. To preach Jesus, his death and burial resurrections. They had a lot of security around, but we didn't need it. But you know, I really liked that place. I mean, it was a place I could live there. They were into turkey hunting and, you know. Well, Dad and I spoke in Buffalo or outside of Buffalo. Great response there, too.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Exactly. It was packed. Yeah, I landed in Buffalo. Right. So we were in that same area. I was there a total of about eight hours. I viewed, after we left there, Al, I viewed New Yorker, the New Yorkers. Once you see the northern part and the people,
Starting point is 00:07:26 away from the metropolitan area in New York City, once you meet them, you say, you know what? Like you said, there's good people everywhere. That's right. There's common sense down to earth, hardworking people. And you feel sorry for them because they're like us in Louisiana. Most people only think of Louisiana as New Orleans. Like it's New Orleans and then every satellite around that.
Starting point is 00:07:48 And that's not really true at all. I mean, our culture here in our state is totally different. That's true. But they're bound because when we were there, they just passed more gun laws, and it's all aimed at the city. But these poor hunters and all the people, the ones you met, they're having to suffer. Well, the biggest applause I got is when I made a reference to that.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I think they said, what is your favorite gun? And I went through a little spill about, you know, it's basically, you know, the human heart causing the problems, you know, instead of the gun. Well, they all stood up and cheered. So I thought, well, these guys appear so legislated. They can't even, these are hunters, you know. I gave a deal on the podcast the other day,
Starting point is 00:08:34 and I discussed the fact that if you take the United States in totality and the individuals who have arms, who are well armed, high-powered rifles, AR-15, and all of those things. And they made the point someone did, and they gave it to me, I looked at it. In other words, America has an armed populace, a standing army, if you will, of individuals. There's 700,000 deer hunters in Pennsylvania,
Starting point is 00:09:13 of 600 and something thousand in Wisconsin and Minnesota. You're like, this thing turns into the largest army, armed men, in this world. And if you add Louisiana going across the south, all the individuals who were armed, his point was some guy did a little blurb on it that if someone did attack us, us being as armed as we are,
Starting point is 00:09:42 we would be a bone to be chewed. Oh, on the ground? On the ground. I told them that in New York, I said, look, and where I'm from, burglary is not a problem. because these people would go boom, boom, who's there? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I mean, you don't, everyone's armed here because they're hunters. Don't be scratching on my windows pulling a joke at 3 o'clock in the morning. Don't do that. That's not going to end well. No. No, but it's the truth. I mean, they all laugh, but it's when you take all the guns away, then with people with evil intent or people, you know, with mental illness,
Starting point is 00:10:20 they now have literally a bunch of sitting ducks. Where I am down here, the scenario would unfold somewhat like this. The dogs would bark. Your guard dogs, they would bark. There's no way to get in here without the dogs barking. Once the dogs bark, everybody's already locked and loaded. That's your early warning. That's the early warning and the alert.
Starting point is 00:10:47 And you can distinguish the bark is that, A raccoon or is that a person? You can tell. We got it down to is that bark Jimmy Redd or is that someone else? They have a Jimmy Red, local redneck bark. But when somebody they don't know from some other place, there is a distinct bark. And I'm thinking, this is not good. What are they doing down there?
Starting point is 00:11:09 And if you look over at your clock, it's 2 o'clock in the morning. So it's dog bark. You wait. And then there's either someone harmless that identifies himself or there's gunfire. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's why that people don't scratch around on windows. But you know, I didn't answer to that, and that's part of the whole idea behind our podcast
Starting point is 00:11:29 is the way of life. And there's a lot of people in America the same way. I mean, they grew up in the woods. They grew up on a farm. Their mindset is exactly the same as we are. And yet, if you just got it through television or media where it was just big city thinking, you'd never even know any of this stuff. It's completely foreign.
Starting point is 00:11:50 What people forget is we do live in some dangerous times. Yep. And there's a lot of mass shootings for no reason at all, except the evil one getting in people, shooting up concerts. It just breaks your heart. Yeah, it's absolutely terrible. Because these people were not aware that this is fixing to happen,
Starting point is 00:12:11 and they're not prepared. All we're saying is, look, if you're prepared, God forbid that you'd ever have to use your weapon. Right. But at least you're prepared, and it is more difficult for the people who are armed to suffer armed robbery, burglary, and murder. Yeah, mass shooting. Basically, that's the answer.
Starting point is 00:12:36 People call people with guns to come help. That's right. That's correct. But to finish my thought, what I'm into, I'm still working, Doc Commander. We came out with a new call. and just this past week. But I'm just not in there every day building duck calls, you know. I told Willie, I was like, that's over.
Starting point is 00:12:55 I will come in when there's a problem. I will help design some calls. Advice and counsel. Yeah. I said, if you want to fire me, fine. But he is like, no, we're good. So I'm liking that new position there. I got involved in the stock market, and, you know, I just didn't realize that was going on.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I had money in the stock market, and I didn't take note until I look. You know, they have what they call. If I saw you walking down the road, Jace, you just wouldn't, it wouldn't appear to me just observing you. You know, you were mistaken as a homeless man when you went into the Trump Tower. Sure. Yeah. Trump Tower Hotel. And I couldn't blame him. They escorted you out of the bill.
Starting point is 00:13:35 And I'm just saying, if I saw you walk by, I wouldn't think this guy's big in the stock market. It just wouldn't occur to me. I had some money in there. and I would just look at the reports they would give me because they have what they call wealth managers. They said, we'll take your money. And they're always patting you on the back and saying long term blue skies and rainbows, this kind of stuff. You know, they'll take you and play golf, you know, and they're sending you a little gift packs all the holidays. So I figured they're making some money here.
Starting point is 00:14:04 But I kept looking at the reports and they all had a negative mark beside them. And I thought the point of this was to make money from the. the money I give you. So anyway, I got involved and they were like, hey, it's your money if you want to get involved. It took me about two minutes, two months to learn it. And then I started. Now I'm into it, you know, I've been into it, I guess, about four months. And they just offered me a job. So Mr. Bearded Redneck, you down in the middle of nowhere, you got a little cash plan run. They want to hire you, Jace? That's what they said. I mean, all it, it's pretty much high stakes poker. How? And, uh, we're living in some strange.
Starting point is 00:14:42 times. It is strange. That you would, Jay's the financial, the wealth manager. Hey, I know more about corporate America in the last four months than I knew my entire life put together before that. Well, you need to explain it to that because, you know, when you say stock market to dad, I'm just saying if some of these big wig stock market types, you know, all these financial gurus are attempting to give Jace a job. we could be in trouble in America. You know what I'm saying? Well, maybe though, just the opposite though.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Maybe. Maybe you come in from that whole different perspective and it may be a whole. If you're fearless and you're not greedy and you don't panic, you can do this. But if you don't, if you have any of those qualities, if you get anxious or nervous or you get scared when you see something or you have panic tendencies, stay out of the stock market. So you're going to get in the stock market. You go in with nerves. of steel. Nerves of steel.
Starting point is 00:15:47 When everybody's selling, you're buying. Maybe that's why all these billionaires you see that they interview, every one of them, seem a little weird. That's that weirdness. Somehow you've got to be a little weird.
Starting point is 00:16:01 No, I'm going to clear that up for you. See, they're kind of cheating. They had money when they went in it, so they don't make that greater decisions. They just keep dumping money in there. And at some point, they have so much money. when they hit on something, it's billions of dollars.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I got you. So, you know, they're not really playing fair. But for the rest of us, you better make good decisions and not panic. Yeah, you can't panic. So that's what Jay's has been up to. What about you, Dad? You're down here on the side of the river, but you're still making a cultural impact, as they say.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Well, what happened was with the reality show and the people from New York City and Los Angeles, California, the film crew and A&E and all of that without us really realizing it. I did bring it up before we ever agreed to do the show. I told you all you, if you remember, I said, I don't think a bunch of redneck shooting ducks, I don't think that people in America is going to watch that. I said, they don't want you to kill a squirrel and eat him. And I agreed with you.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Yeah, yeah. And I said, however, I said, you guys need to remember. We were discussing, do we do this? They've offered it. They said we want to film your family, a functional family, just stabbing the dark here, shot in the dark. So I said, guys, I was talking to y'all. I said, I don't think it would work, redneck shooting ducks. I mean, you know, they got these, you know, a few little things you see.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I said, however, if the Almighty is behind it and he's the instigator of it, and he sent this bunch down here to film us, I said, with the fame that will come from it, I said he could be provided. us a platform, and if he's behind it, it'll go ballistic. Well, I said, but y'all make the call, I'm whatever you think. So y'all talked it over and said, Dad, let's go for it. So coming out of that was the platform that was provided for us to give people the good news about Jesus and tell them we need to go back to the old ways, like the founder said, hold on to your religion and your morality will therefore stay intact.
Starting point is 00:18:11 and you'll be a virtuous nation, which we should be, you know, right thinking, correct moral excellence. We need to get back to the old ways that we were founded on. We made plenty of mistakes. We're always going to make mistakes. We're fallible. But the bottom line is, loving God and loving your neighbor is basically what we're holding to.
Starting point is 00:18:31 So what came out of the TV show, it provided us a platform, we're basically telling America, look, or asking America, what's the downside? with loving God and loving each other. I mean, we have life and immortality offered to us through what God did through Jesus, life and immortality. You would think, and all's required is you love him, look what he's done for you, and you love each other. For the life of me, everyone I've ever asked,
Starting point is 00:19:00 do you have a better story? And what's the downside to that? They all look at me, whether they're left wing, right wing, atheists, they always look and say, hmm, you got a point. I mean, you know, is there a downside to loving God and loving each other?
Starting point is 00:19:17 And life and immortality's at stake, at least we have a chance. That's right. A hope. So therefore, I went to Houston first a couple of weeks ago, spoke there at a men's meeting, make better husbands, fathers,
Starting point is 00:19:36 which we really need, and brothers. So I spoke to them first. I went on up to Dallas. Had about two days, full days of interviews, whether it be a radio, television, podcast. I met people like, what's the guy that was on Fox News for a while? Glenn Beck. Glenn Beck and some of them.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Chad Braithers. How? You did Chad Prather. That's what I was going to say. You just wrote your third book. Wrote the third book. So we were interviewing that, the theft of America. soul trying to get people. I blame the devil and it's biblical on what's what's happened to all the
Starting point is 00:20:22 empires. They rot from within. The evil one takes over. They rise to great heights. Then they fall. Most of them are just piles of rubble. And I was basically telling them we'll end up the same way unless there's a repentance turning toward God. So we did that. And look, let me say your first two books were really good. This book, I think, is out the roof. It's excellent. I mean, we don't give compliments easily,
Starting point is 00:20:52 but I have recommended that book. I mean, it's really good. And you know what's interesting, Jay's is that the book idea started with dad, me, and Zach having a conversation after Trump got elected.
Starting point is 00:21:04 We saw people's, it looked like their heads were exploding. Yeah. Because they couldn't believe that Trump had gotten elected. And then we just, we were watching this and we were saying, man, country is like, it's turned into this different thing, different place.
Starting point is 00:21:18 So that genesis of that through a couple of years of working on the book came out with the Thet of America. So in the end result, to me, was far greater than the beginning because it was much more about just one election, one president. That's right. It was a bigger picture of the... It's outstanding. And I like it because somehow another, you captured your softer side in there.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I mean, people, I think, will be surprised in a good way. and you were real vulnerable in the book. I just, I just, I think it was really. Well, we were, so, Jason, we were, we were promoting the book. We went to New York first, and then we went over to Harrisburg, PA, to NRA event. And so we're on, we drove, you know, because it's about a two-hour drive. And so we're driving along and had a driver to take us over, mom and dad, me and Lisa. And I get a call, unknown on my cell phone, I answer it.
Starting point is 00:22:12 And this woman says, this is Matt. Adelaide from the White House. Is your father available to speak to the president? I would have just hung up at that moment. Well, it's, you know, and they had told us that they may be calling, so it wasn't like I wasn't expected it might happen, but still, when you're actually there. I said, he happens to be right here.
Starting point is 00:22:32 So I passed the phone back to dad who's in the back seat, you know. And so dad waits a minute. He's like, Mr. Prez, you know. And then they have like a, you know, what, 10-minute conversation. where President Trump, you know, said that Dad was one of the wisest men he knows and the impact he's making on the country. And it was really, it was, for me, it was surreal because I thought about here we are, you know, coming to you from the, our unashamed, you know, podcast command center on the side of the river where we grew up. And we came down here 45 years ago.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And now you're riding along and the President of the United States, you know, is calling you on. That's awesome. I mean, yeah, just compliment the book. Yeah. powerful. Which tells you if the president would call some joker like me, down there on the riverbank, you can better believe he is a man of the people.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yeah. Or he wouldn't give me, you know, 30 seconds of his time. So that told me a lot about the president who is in charge right now. Well, and I felt better about it. I put it that way. And the idea behind the book, which was the idea is that as a people, if we can't return to some sense of godliness,
Starting point is 00:23:45 that began us, I mean, we will be destroyed, which is basically the point of the whole. The strongest thing Donald Trump has going for him is that he is at least very conscious, conscious of a God in heaven. Right. So he is not anti-God, anti-religion. And up until he showed up, it seemed like most everyone else was. You know what I'm saying? Well, and we personally know because, you know, of course, Jason, we're friends with Dodd Jr.
Starting point is 00:24:12 And, you know, I've known the family, and he's hunted with us before. but we know, Dad, because of influential people, men of God, who have been, that God has put around the president and to have those conversations, including you, about who God is and what he means to our culture. So, I mean, we know that that's being done, you know, and so that's a good thing. What's crazy is how I met Don Jr. was over me getting kicked out of that hotel, the Trump hotel. Really?
Starting point is 00:24:40 Well, because, you know, I was doing media right then for the show. smooth, smooth it over. Well, they were embarrassed. I mean, they're like, you know, there's Duck Dynasty in your hotel, and y'all are kicking them out. You know, at 2,500 bucks a night, you know, you need to be careful who you run out of that.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I mean, I was in there five minutes. And so he's like, sends me an email and says, next time you're in New York, we'll take care of you. I didn't know what that meant, but I wanted to see what we'll take care of. That meant we won't run you out of the building the next time. And so the next time I go, I send him an email. And he's like, do you play golf?
Starting point is 00:25:13 I was like, yep. And they said, well, here, I got you set up at two of our nicest venues, you know. And he said, we'll stop by and have lunch with you. They had it all mapped out. I was like, hey, I'm in. So I go up there. Well, we kind of hit it off because my daughter was born with a cleft lip and palate. And what interested them, this is way before his dad becomes president.
Starting point is 00:25:35 He's like, I don't know if you knew this. I don't think he said it quite this way, but they're basically one of the largest contributors. to kids' charities with the same issue. You know, different charities. I don't know all the names of them, but kids born with some form of clip, flip. Yeah. So that's why he reached out to me.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Oh, I've heard the story about your daughter. You know, we hate that, you know, you get kicked out of our hotel. We play golf. Then he's like, he's also a hunter. So he's like, when are you going to take me duck hunting? Because there's not a lot of ducks, you know, in New York. So I take him duck hunting.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I was so impressed. I mean, this guy can shoot a shotgun. Oh, yeah. I'd say top three gunners that I've ever hunted with. I took that as a really good sign. Oh, that's a very good sign. Because you can't fake that. The first bunch that came in was three,
Starting point is 00:26:28 and I thought, I'm just going to let him shoot, see what happened. I said, cut him. He went bont, bong, bong, all three of them, just voted. That's when you said Donald Trump for president. No doubt about it. I said Donald Trump for president. Yeah, that did cross my mind, Phil. I thought that's a good sign there.
Starting point is 00:26:44 As a duck owner, I thought we need this guy in here selfishly. Well, and then early in 2016, we had Zach, you know, had Ted Cruz come down and hunt with us. And I sat next to Cruz. I never picked my gun up, but he never cut a feather. Yeah. Well, that's what I figured most politicians are like, yeah, let's go duck hunting. And then you get a gun and just you make sure you don't get shot.
Starting point is 00:27:08 He's an honest man. Because he would shoot and when he missed and he'd watch me hit him. him and he would say, you're a very good shot. I thought, well. Yeah, he didn't pull a sigh. So, by the way, so I go up there and you say, where did you end up last week? I ended up in Nashville, Tennessee last four or five days ago from Houston to Dallas for a few days, and then you're spending his time talking to him about the book, ended up in Nashville.
Starting point is 00:27:33 And we had met Huckabee, Mike Huckabee, before down there when he was running for president. We'd done a couple events with him. I met him again and he'd talk to some of y'all. Sy had been in an effort. Now he's a good man. He is. Yeah. Godly man.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Yes. So I did his show, which was pretty cool. And so the bottom line is, you know, preach the gospel ever where I was, his show and all the rest of them combined, you know. So I ended up back down here. We're back down here on the river. And now we're sitting here next to the rising river with rain falling. And we're back on Jesus. And we're doing a podcast.
Starting point is 00:28:13 That's exactly right. Just, you know, for our audience, you know, you're launching out with us and kind of want to let you know what we have planned. We, of course, we'll talk about things that are going on in our lives, current things, things of the past, things that are interesting. The reason that you probably tuned in and watched us or followed our family, which we're very humble by that, by the way, we don't take that lightly, you know, that people are blessed.
Starting point is 00:28:43 And I was just in Georgia myself. So at least I and I have been doing a lot of traveling. We've written three books. And we've got a new one coming out called Desperate Forgiveness, June the 4th. So if you want to check that out on Amazon and get you a pre-order on that, that would be great. But, you know, we just met – I met a woman. We were signing books, you know, at the end of the event. And she said, you know, I was down.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I think she had had some kind of surgery. And so she was down for a while. And I've heard this over and over and over and over again across the country. And she said, Duck Dynasty is what got me through that difficult period in my life. And I've heard this hundreds of times. There's somebody had lost somebody. Somebody had died. You know, they were in the hospital.
Starting point is 00:29:29 And the show just was the sort of show that lifted their spirits, which is really interesting. Because when you're doing something like that, we're in the weeds of it. Jay is more than us, you and I dad. But he and Willie and Corey, I mean, they were, you know, you're trying to make it something and decent and you know, you're always having the tension of people wanting to push you where you don't want to go. But you don't kind of realize that while that's beaming out there, it's having a huge impact on people.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Because, and it wasn't a, it wasn't a religious show. It wasn't a preachy show. I mean, it was just a fun show. But it was, there was something obvious about the family and how we felt about each other and kind of how we, every episode pulled it together at the end. Of course, the prayer was the huge, you know, signal. that we were godly people, you know, and that's what I hear the most, you know, from people. It's kind of sad that you're in a situation now where just having a prayer on TV is some needle-moving moment.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Right. You know, but a lot of people are like, can you believe they're actually praying on TV? We're simply trying to implement biblical principles and put them in the hearts of... Which are all good, by the way. Yep. And our fellow man hoping that these principles once applied at the centerpiece, love God, love your neighbor, to keep this from becoming hell on earth. Because without God, it gets hellish in a hurry.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Any way you want to slice it. Well, and you said it earlier that the Duck Dynasty built us a platform, all of us. And now individually we're able to go and do sort of the things that, you know, maybe matter most to us. I mean, Jason Missy, of course, Chase goes and speaks and just on behalf of the Almighty from the Bible, but also what they've been able to do with Mia and Mia Mu and all the things they've done. I mean, that's a platform, you know, for them. Willie and Corey, it's more about adoption. They do a lot of humanitarian stuff. They, you know, help one now. All these great things they're able to do. They're building the orphanages all over the
Starting point is 00:31:38 world. I mean, that's their thing. Ms. Kay works with all the women who have had abortions, and she does a lot of speaking engagements on why you should give birth to your children, your sons and daughters, and love them. So we're reaching the full gamut. Oh, yeah. And then Lisa, that. You all like my wife, I mean, Missy, she has, we have the Mia Moo, which is turned into quite the charity. Yeah. It's incredible. But she also has this business called Laminin, where she takes women that are coming out of prison and sex trafficking and all these types of deals. And, you know, when they get out, they, the one, she's working with other charity organizations where these women who are trying to change their life, she gives them a job. And they make jewelry.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Of course, the more money they make, the more women they hire. But, you know, you can imagine doing that for the last couple of years, the problems and the toughness that comes out. out of that but you know you see these women who are transformed and uh it is an awesome adventure you end up al and the impact for good peter was discussing jesus when he first arrived said you know what's happened this is in about acts chapter 10 about 30 or so in there and peter highlighted two things he did he said you remember how jesus went around which meaning which means it wasn't like going to a structure, the temple.
Starting point is 00:33:07 He's turning over tables and chairs at the temple because they had made it a money-making enterprise. He was going around. Hey, went around, Peter said, doing good and healing all those who were under the power of the devil. Well, if you look carefully of what we do, that's precisely what we do. We go around, we do good, and we point people to Jesus so they can be delivered from the evil one.
Starting point is 00:33:33 And we're not ashamed to do it, which is kind of the point here today. That's why we're not ashamed. So when I speak to audiences, I have a picture of the last night that we filmed Duck Dynasty. Remember the clip show? We were at Willie's House. So there's a picture that one of the crew took of us all sitting there. Kind of a stately looking deal. You know, there's you and mom and all of our kids and our family.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Was that there? Yeah, you were there. It was the last thing we did. And the crew took the shot. don't even remember that whole thing's like a blur to me i don't know how you remember well you're a stop market guy now so that's what happened but i'll have to show you the pictures it's an awesome picture so when i show that to an audience i can see the recognition in their faces they're like oh yeah that's that's the family that's the ones we love right there you're multi-generational faith i mean there's
Starting point is 00:34:22 reed and cole and sadie and all the you know three generations of people doing it and so i said this is a family you love right hey they clap you know and then I pop in a picture of mom and dad, me and Jace. Jase, you were about, I was seven, so you were about three. And mom's pregnant with Willie. You can tell us she's got a maternity top-home. And you don't have a beard, and you were 20-something years old. So then I popped that picture in.
Starting point is 00:34:53 And I said, this family had no idea that they would ever become the other family. But it happened through transformation. Then I tell the story of how. how first mom was transformed, then you and then us, and then how God built that journey. And so I always tell them, you know, I know somebody sitting in this audience is that first family. And you're thinking, how can we make it? You know, are we going to be split up or whatever? And if it's not you, you know somebody like that.
Starting point is 00:35:24 It's one of your kids. It's one of your grandkids. It's one of your friends, your neighbors. So then I tell the story of Christ. And so to me, I think that's what has been. built what we're going to be doing this podcast is 40 plus years now of trusting in God that you can be transformed. And so what happened with us, it was the Bible really, you know, first the gospel
Starting point is 00:35:46 than the Bible, but has done that. For all the ones, the naysayers who say it was just dog luck, we're sitting here saying we consider it to be a blessing from God and a direction for a family group. to go. Both of you are, I would consider gifted at speaking, but when you think about unashamed and we all told about what we did, we go around and speak. My number one fear as a kid was public speaking.
Starting point is 00:36:20 You know, in the ninth grade, I took a class called speech. I thought it helped you enunciate English words. They said, no, you get up in front of the class and give speeches. I said, oh, I'm out of here. So I got up, walked up, and the teacher said, sir where are you going i said no this is wrong class for me she's like nobody drops my class and i just kept walking and uh she said you might as well go walk straight to the principal i said that's where i'm headed and so i walked there and i was like i got to get out of this class and he's like what's the problem
Starting point is 00:36:53 i was like i don't get up and speak in front of people i'm out on that and he's like nope you're going have to take that class and so then i thought the only thing i got the only thing i could think of I was like, do you like Cropi? And he said, what do you mean Cropi? I said, the fish. He said, I love Cropi. Tradeoff coming. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I said, well, I can have you two bags of fresh fillets tomorrow. If you get me out of class. If you get me out of this class. Look, he looked up and he said, are you serious? I said, yes, sir. You got his attention. He said, you're out of the class. I'll get you in another one.
Starting point is 00:37:28 He said, but I got a question for you. I said, what's that? He said, can you pick ducks? I said, oh, I can pick them. he said, well, I need me a duck picker for when the winter gets here. I said, I'm in. Just get me out of the class. So anyway, make a long story short.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I was never, you think what I do now? I mean, I spoke last night. You heard me at our local church. You think, what happened? And when I became a Christian, a follower of Jesus at 14, I had seen your life change. And my whole view of being a Christian was just not doing wrong. You're kind of like Moses.
Starting point is 00:38:01 I'm not your man. I'm not your man to speak up about this. So I go to high school first two years, and I just tried to survive. But, you know, as hard as I tried, I still made mistakes, and I wasn't running with them, but I just had a boring, lonely life because I wasn't there going to speak up. So now you ended up like Jeremiah, which said, I just can't hold it in. I just didn't know what to do, you know, and I was stressed out about it, and I was praying about it because I'd read the verses and they'd talk about all this courage and boldness
Starting point is 00:38:29 and, you know, take a stand and be God's spokesman. And I was like, I do not like to speak in front of people. And so one night I get a phone call. And back then it was when the phones were mounted to the walls. Mine still is. Yeah. Well, there you go. When's the last time you had a call on that?
Starting point is 00:38:46 You had to answer it to know who was on. Yeah. So I answered it and they just sit there. And I was like, hello, hello. And I was like, it's a prank caller. I could hear movement. So I knew it was somebody. I was like, hello.
Starting point is 00:38:57 And I was fixing to hang up. And I thought, here I am struggling with sharing. sharing my faith and being bold. And I got a person calling not say anything. So it just hit me. I said, you know what? I'm going to do this. I'm glad you called.
Starting point is 00:39:09 You don't have to say a word, but I want to share something with you. You mean the person on the other end of the line never said a word? Never said a word. And look, so I get my Bible out and I'm all nervous and I start into it. You know, I start trying to share my faith because I thought this would be good practice for me to get out of this fear of public speaking. And they had every opportunity to hang it up. And look, you know what?
Starting point is 00:39:29 You know what happened? They didn't hang up. And I went on for almost three hours, and they just listened. And I could hear the pages rustling, so I know they got a Bible and they listen. And I'd like to have a happy end into that. You know, they never, finally got tired. I was like, look, I got to go. That's all I got.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Did you ever find out who it was, Jake? No, I don't know who it was. But look, it transformed my life because I thought, what else could I have talked about? Because all I did was share Jesus and what I had just, you know, done two years earlier. Plus, there was a little bit of safety. All they had to do was hang up. All they do is hang up. And the longer they went on, the more excited and passionate I got because I thought.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And the bolder you got. The boulder I got. And after that night, which, by the way, when we hung up, I said, call back tomorrow night. And we'll see if I can come up with some new material. And they did. And so I went through it again. But I went back to that school and I said, I'm not going to be quiet anymore. I'm getting past that.
Starting point is 00:40:28 I mean, this is not about me. You had a moment, Jay. I had a moment. And you graduated high school, and then you were 19, I was 23, when we went to preaching school. And so you were young. Oh, I was young. I was one of the few that went through high school, you know, following Jesus. I mean, most people.
Starting point is 00:40:47 It's as many as you converted, and you and I all both, but through the year after that, that time frame, that person might have been one of them that you. Well, that's right, and it could have been. But what I learned is Jesus and what he offered. is so powerful and it's so real. It gets people's attention. And then when I started telling my buddies, I mean, because look, I was with the wrong crowd.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I just wasn't doing what they were doing. But I was with all the hunters and fishermen. They were getting drunk every night, smoking dope, you know, and chasing the wildest women on the man. And we're telling me about it, making fun of me because I wasn't. You talk about it now. Al Jace talks about when he came to me, his dad, and what most people don't realize,
Starting point is 00:41:28 the question was asked, dad what are STDs. Oh boy. And I looked down at him. I said, what are STDs? I said, have a seat here, son. Yeah, Phil, look, you go through all this graphic detail about, you know, rotting flesh and dying genitals. I mean, look, here I am.
Starting point is 00:41:48 He's like, let me tell you, at the end, I'll never forget this line. When you got finished, you said, here's the bottom line. Keep that thing in your pocket and you won't have to worry about it until you get married. And I thought, oh, boy. Of course, I was eight. But, Jace, to this day, Jase, did it keep you from being immoral to you married, Missy? I'll tell you this, of all the mistakes I've made,
Starting point is 00:42:11 that was one thing I got right, and it wasn't me. It was because, you know, one, you scared me after death. Two, I had put my faith in trust in God, but three, I came up with a system that kept me out of that, which was on the first date. They would get in the car, and I'd say, look, before this, goes on. Here's the deal. I love Jesus. I want to go to heaven and I'm looking for a woman that'll help me get there. If you don't want any part of that, you can leave now. A couple of them
Starting point is 00:42:42 did. I think the Almighty is giving you an amen. He did. I hear thunder from the heavens, James. Well, look, my wife, when I gave that speech, she was the only one that said, well, that's right up my alley. And so then I said, if I ever put my hand on you in an in a way I want you to stop me, which, because I figured now that I'll just tell her that, it'll, it'll, you know, help me along the way. And look, about a year later, she said, hey, you're, you know, remember that little speech? I was like, okay, I got it. Yeah. So this is, uh, so today our inaugural run on Unashame, uh, gave a little bit of background as to, to who we are and why we're here. And we're excited about the journey that we're going to be going on. It's a journey, uh,
Starting point is 00:43:29 through the Word of God, through life change, as we've talked about today, through hopefully things that will impact your life at a direct level. And we're hoping that you'll get other people to listen in because we want people to know what we're talking about. And so we'll continue this next time on Unashamed. Jace will be back with us next time. And so we'll have O'Dan, the Butler, and the eunuch. When we get him on here, we'll explain him.
Starting point is 00:43:59 He's going to be sitting in with us as well. He's dad's and mom's right-hand man. I know this, Al. I'll leave the elders with this today. Being unashamed of the Father, son, and Holy Spirit, living a godly life in Christ Jesus and pointing others to do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Al, if you cut it and slice it any way you want to, but it has paid rich dividends across the board. That's right. Nothing but blessings came out of being unashamed for us and a lot of others out there. Exactly. And my friends that I share with in high school, they didn't immediately respond,
Starting point is 00:44:37 but as the years went by, when they got into trouble, when they knew there was no hope, you know who they called? They called me over that one little speech I gave them, which shows you, if you're going to be unashamed, this is the thing Jesus in particular
Starting point is 00:44:52 to be unashamed about. So check it out. We'll try to do it again. We'll do it a little bit better next time. See you later. So we're so glad you guys were with us today. You can subscribe on iTunes or Spotify or YouTube or Facebook. And be sure and rate us on iTunes so that other people can know about the podcast.

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