Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 1000 | How Phil Robertson Shaped Thousands of Lives for Jesus

Episode Date: December 2, 2024

Jase and Zach look back on how influential Phil has been, not only in their own lives but in the lives of thousands of others. Al reads a few listener emails detailing the positive impact “Unashamed” has had on their walk with Jesus, and longtime listener Kim Giglio shares how this podcast community supported her during a difficult diagnosis and uncertain time in her life. The guys look back on what they’ve learned over the years of 1,000 episodes. -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome to Unashamed. I guess if we, we don't have our buttons. We needed some cheering and clapping and some background noise. It's a big day. That was the stage we went through, Al, the buttons and the cheering. We're all at different locations. So, Jace, you have a different, for the 1,000 podcast of the Unashamed podcast, you have a, it looks like, you've moved into a cave maybe? Were you in an undisclosed location? Where are you?

You need to work on your marketing. That wasn't a very good declaration of our 1000th episode. You're like... Well, you're the one that always like, every time you're like, there's just a number, you know, like no big deal. Well, here's the difference. A thousand is a lot in any setting. A thousand?

So happy 1,000. 1,000th episode. That is big. Unashamed Nation. So it's been bumpy. We actually... Oh, wow. That is, that was impressive.

Where did that come from? Well, it's, I'm in, look, I'm in Sadie's studio. Oh, boy. Just to show you how bumpy this has been. You must be in a small corner of it, because I've been in her studio and it's pretty impressive, but you're... Well, let me just start off with this. This is the first time I've been.

been here. I actually did the last 999 here, but I got lost in the studio. This is not a little cubicle. There's different areas. They have a couch where she does hers, but now this is a different place and it's dark everywhere around. So I really don't know where I'm at. But it's been bumpy. I actually talked to Phil this morning. And it was not a... a plan phone call. He called me this morning. Oh, really? And so I have a feel update and, uh, because he was like, where are you at? I said, I'm in my truck. He's like, what are you doing? I was like, I'm driving to do the podcast. Are you coming? He went, no. So, of course, we're up at Duck Commander because we usually do it out at field. But the backstory on that and the

reason he called me he was like jace i'm not sure i'm going to be able to duck hunt much because for you out there who do not duck hunt we are really at the door of duck season here we're coming yeah we're just a couple days away and i think what's ironic about this is we've done our one thousandth podcast here today but it's right in the spirit of my physical new bird So every year since I've been eight years old, I've gone through a nine-month process of life. And then I'm reborn via duck season. Zach didn't even get that. So look, there's two stages of life as a duck hunter.

You're getting ready to duck hunt, which is nine months. Don't you find this out, Ronnie? And then all of a sudden, you duck hunt for three months. So technically, you see where I got that idea. As borderline idolatrous, but I see when you're going with it. No, because, now look, would y'all all agree that I work hard? I'm a hard worker. Would you all agree?

I have calluses on my hands and arthritis in my joints from all the duck calls that I've made. I've been a hard worker. And you know why I did that? because I knew that when duck season came, there'll be no more building duck calls. Oh, no. I get to go enjoy the products that I'm bringing to the world. So it's literally like in a work environment, it was my rebirth process. Now, the early years, it was more of school.

I was like, because my dad was like, okay, save your sick days, and I'll let you use them for duck fever, and I did that every year. So I would be gone, you know, you get two weeks off for the Christmas holidays? Yeah. Well,

I got a whole month off. And my parents would sign that I had a fever. Literally. I think I'm starting to see why Jason succeeded in college, right? He didn't get past that first aid and gone.

He had duck fever. I had duck fever. It is a condition for duck hunters. So here's my dad worried, and I just want to kind of give a public service announcement. Obviously, he hasn't been with us for, I don't know how many podcasts, but in our time, a few weeks. And the reason we haven't really said much is because we've had trouble diagnosing what exactly the problem is besides getting old. We thought it was all about his back. He had his third back surgery, and he's actually, as of today, he said, for the first time,

I woke up today and my back didn't hurt. So I thought, awesome. But he's still hurting. And so he has been poked and prodded for the last four or five weeks, almost on a daily basis with quite an array of doctors. And at the same time that he's worsening physically, and what I mean by that, he's lost in incredible amount of weight and he's just struggling he's trying to eat i mean we got him drinking milkshakes and everything we can do but there's a problem we all believe and so but we can't figure out exactly what that is so he's struggling physically but he's also struggling a little bit mentally

most days he's fine but some days he just kind of checks out and we're not real sure what he's talking about so we're trying to figure out what that is and uh dealing with my dad is is especially difficult because he does not like to leave his little compound. So every time he has to go see a doctor, let's say, let's just say it can be a bit challenging for those driving him. He's like, nah, I'll be all right. Resurrection's coming. You know, that kind of mentality.

So we're working on it. He's open about it. But him even calling me, I think, saying, I don't know how much I'm on a duck hunt. He was worried about that. And I was like, well, Phil, you're. you're at a stage of your life i was like if you just want to come with us and wave we'll make that happen but if you don't fill up for it you know but uh he said well when you come down to scout because i'm going to scout the next three days we just got a big rain so rain makes little lakes

lakes bring in the ducks wasn't there a song about that i think that was no that was luke Brian, he was saying rain makes corn and corn makes whiskey. So I went in a different direction there. But on the spiritual side, water brings ducks and we had the food. And so I'll take him around, you know, a little bit. But that's the Phil report. I hate that. Let me add a couple of things to that, Jays.

One is, and I don't know that he'll hear this, but I just want to say thank you to Dan. We talk a lot about Dan on the podcast. as he's kind of dad's right hand man. And he's really taken over, you know, just making sure dad gets his meds and his, you know, stuff he needs to drink and taking him to his doctor's woman. That's not, as Jason mentioned, that's not always easy because dad is kind of a reluctant patient.

Yeah. It's a nice way to put it. So I just want to thank Dan publicly for that. And he's a great guy. And also, I want to just say that dad also, you know, the last time I talked to him is like, you know, I just, I feel bad. I hadn't been on these podcasts.

but I'm just not up for it. I said, Dad, look, you trained us. You know, we are your living legacy. Me and Jays and Zach and everybody else that sat at his feet. And so I said, you trained us to step in and do what we do on the podcast and share the Word of God and lead people to Christ. So I said, you are on the podcast. I realize you're not physically on our set, but every time we break out the Word of God,

you're, trust me, Dad, you're living. in us by what you talk. And I was trying to encourage him because that's what legacy is all about. And that's why, look, he said it many, many times. You've heard him, Mone of Shame Nation. He said the resurrection looms large and it waits for all of us because that's the way we're all going to go. So while we're here, we try to have the biggest impact that we can.

So we're unsure about, you know, where it's going to go with Dad. But just remember this. As long as we're here sharing the Word of God, Dad is always going to be a part of that process. True. And we're praying. and we want you to pray. But I will say this.

We're not stressed out and worried like the rest of men to trigger that verse that says, you know, we don't grieve like the rest of men who have no hope. You know, Phil is, it is what it is, and we're doing everything possible, earthly and heavenly, you know, to try to get him to, you know, to be where he was. And, but it's just been difficult. And the reason we haven't really said anything, because we really don't know what the problem is.

And it's definitely not from a lack of looking. So that is the plan. And we'll see how duck season goes. I'm hoping I did that little illustration because, I mean, I sensed a spark in him today. Because he's excited because duck season is here. Even though he's disappointed that he's like, I'm not sure I'm physically and mentally able to deal with what he calls duck season. from my mom's perspective, the ordeal. But he did say that today.

He said, I'm not sure I'm ready to deal with the ordeal. And I was like, well, Phil, we'll take care of you. And so don't worry. Because I didn't want him to worry about it. I think he was like, look, if you're expecting a whole lot out of me, don't plan on that. I was like, no, I'm coming down there after the podcast. I'll do the scouting and the blind brushing and get everything ready.

Well, part of that's that fierce independence that he put in us, too. Jay's noticed a few years ago the first time dad started having a few issues that, you know, it was like the first time he couldn't pull that motor, he said, Jay's, you know, start this motor for me. We began to see that shift in that transition. So again, that's part of what it's about. But look, we just want to give you an update. Thanks, Chase, for doing that. Because today is really your day, Unashamed Nation, because a thousand episodes, as Jay said,

of anything is a lot. And you guys have grown with us, both numerically. I don't know where we are, Zach, on people, but there's a lot of people that subscribe, that download. And again, we're grateful because you can't teach if someone's not willing to listen. And so, you know, that's what we love to do. And I look back, I was trying to find the notes from the very first podcast. And I didn't find the exact notes, but I did find the date. that we did the first three podcasts. And of course, Zach wasn't with us early. I don't remember Zach.

Do you remember when you came in and started kind of being more of a regular? Zach was like the Gentiles. He, we grafted him in. You know, because he just, let's just face it, he's just different. But you represent a group of people out there who really appreciate it. Look, I'll say that you've moved into the top ten comments. I get when I go out into the public, which I've been a lot here lately, you're in the top 10 and here's the statement they say, they say, I think you need to go a little easier on Zach.

Jay's pushed me to start my own podcast, you know, so I like. And you have. We've actually, that's our first spinoff. We got a spinoff, no, but truthfully, I mean, it's, I, you got to understand that what Jay's is not too hard on me. this is our love language and so this is how we interact well we're trying to show you too the world has gotten so sensitive that people can't even disagree about anything and uh you know you can learn a lot by challenging ideas i mean the bible's a big book even though it has one central theme who is a person

jesus which we focus on and we all agree on that but you know i think some of the uh things i've changed my mind on happen as a result of, you know, one month long, intense discussions about different things. You're putting. Well, and we all talked about how that's played into our speaking in other places. So the first date, Jays, November 2nd, 2018. So it was six years ago. So what was today?

Today. Almost to the date, yeah, because we're in 20. Is it what year is this? 24? We're in 24. Yeah, 24. I was kidding. Have we been doing this six years?

Six years. Wow. I keep telling people four and a half years. I guess I've been doing that for a year and a half. Yeah, six years. We moved up to six years. So you want to guess what our first 15 episodes, according to my notes, and I'm pretty good note taker.

I think we actually started in Genesis. No, we actually started there after the first 15. The first 15 episodes were the gospel. That's how we started. The Gospel of Jesus. Okay. The Gospel of Jesus. And the very first podcast was an intro to good versus evil and God and Satan.

That's where we began. And we've already told y'all the exit strategy. When we say we're going to do the book of revelation, that means when that's done, it's over. Now, it may take a year to get through it. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying when we. say let's do revelation. I'm going to have my bags packed. I'm going to have my imperishable existence ready to roll, which I don't know what I'm going to take, but. So here's another

little fun factoid, Jay's. The first few episodes, I think it was those first 15 maybe, and then we shifted into the overview of Genesis. But we were actually operating under a different name. We were called the Net Faith podcast, which was our original name. Did you know that, Zach? Really? Well, did he know it? Zach, I was on it and I didn't know it. It was called Net Faith.

Was it because of where fishers of men? Yeah, that was it. That was the idea. But then Zach had this idea about that we should really, it came from you, Zach, because you and Jill kind of came back and said, we should call this the unashamed podcast or something along that line. And so we filmed this promo. and it was a really cool promo and we were reading me jace and dad were reading romans 1 16 and 17 in the promo

do you remember that at the end there was a big fire and you know this it was really well done and dad was supposed to read the verse but instead of saying not ashamed i am not ashamed of the gospel because that's what jay said that's what i said that i am unashamed and he did it in such a dad way yeah i am unashamed of the gospel that that's what changed our name. So just saying this. I didn't even know it. I forgot about that, Al. Yeah.

So that's why I'm on the podcast. And technically, just a little factoid, I was not in the original plan to be on the podcast. You're right. We had actually already recorded me, dad, and Dan. Is that the, did those come out? They've never come out. Oh, so they're not part. Oh, wow.

That might be worth $10. Those original episodes of Unashamed? They were about 20. They were about 20 of them with Al, Dan, and Phil. Cole says we're sure we have them. I'm going to see if I can read it. Yeah, that would be interesting to listen to. So my wife...

I do remember this about Dan, Dan being the third chair guy, as a lot of times Dan's comment would be, so what you're saying is, that'd be it. It was just what you're saying. But my wife and I were actually going to do a podcast I didn't even know y'all were doing that

and Zach somehow got wind to the I think we were just talking about something else Zach called me and I was like yeah I'm fixing to do a podcast and Zach was like well we are too he's like what's yours about I was like well me and my wife we're going to do it I'm a little nervous about it

and he's like well hang on I remember because we were having the first discussions but the thought came to me of incorporating Jace in it because I was thinking about what would happen or what has happened in the living room of Phil's house and how many Bible studies, impromptued Bible studies that I've witnessed. Well, there's been thousands. It's just like it's just the way of life.

And there'd always be people kind of around listening to the discussion. and it was always intertwined with stories of duck hunting and cultural stuff and obscure stories about playing a game of spades and cooking gumbo. Zach, there have been tens of thousands of podcasts unfilmed since I was a kid. Yeah. Because my parents, you know, they came out of the water declaring Jesus. And then that just became a way of life. I mean, I'll remember it. Literally almost every day someone was getting Jesus shared with them at our house.

And then it kind of developed into more of a hospitality thing. And one of the things that's really been neat from that is because we, by the way, thank you, Undershame Nation. You sent over 200 emails that Alex and I have read. And just your stories are amazing. And I picked a few of them. But one of them was the guy, Alex Napier, and I actually just met him. up in when I was up in Kentucky last week. And it's funny, I want to mention his what he said,

because he said growing up in eastern Kentucky when he was a kid on the summer nights, you know, they sat outside because it was cooler out there. And he would listen to his dad and his grandpa talk about the Bible. And that became his basis of understanding what the Bible was. And so when he came across our podcast, the draw was it was back to his childhood. He said, it was just like sitting on the front porch in eastern Kentucky listening to my dad and my grandpa. He said, that's why I feel about your family and what I hear and what I get to participate in the Bible study. So to y'all's point, you were just describing, it's not just us. I mean, there's people all across, you know, people that listen all across the country that have similar experiences.

And it touches into that by our style and kind of the way we do it. Yeah, it's been, this whole thing has been amazing. you guys have been a part of it, but really I think people ask me on time to say, I tell them I want a podcast, podcast told them the name of it. What's it about? And I always have a hard time answering that question because it's, it is a Bible study, but it's very, there's like a certain level of attention deficit disorder and how we all operate. There's a lot of squirrels.

Attention deficit disorder. Yeah, ADDJ is for you. The phrases you use these days. You've never heard that phrase. Maybe. Attention deficit. That means I have a hard time paying attention? Yeah, it's like we have a hard time.

Well, just say that. Don't put it into a category that I have to sit here and think about. We chase a few. This is like what we're doing right now. We're chasing a rabbit, right? It's what we do. But, but honestly, what it is, and I think the success of the show has been that this is a living room experience. down at Phil's house and it really not just Phil's house all of our homes we found about

taken you know Kay and Phil's DNA into our own homes and our own lives and and this is kind of an extension of that I think that's why I had a guy show up the day to our church and um one of the list is the Unashamed podcast and he was telling me a story of his his dad you know listened to the podcast and and um for the first time ever had started a you know, I found a relationship with Jesus. And he was so thankful that this podcast was one of the vehicles that God used to to bring his dad to Christ.

And when he was talking to me, he said, I just feel like I know you. You know, because I listen to you guys every day. I feel like I know you. And I think that's the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

really special thing about, a, a way, you know, we, we feel connected with you guys to, even if we don't know you personally. Um, the ones that we do meet.

I mean, it's a, it's a, it's a, So you guys are a class act and very thankful for. Well, and that's, Zach, we said that. I don't know if you remember at the beginning. We said, we want this to be us in our living room,

talking about the Bible, just like we did growing up. And the podcast listener just has a chair and they're listening and participating in the sense that they're actively listening to what we're talking about and then taking that with them as they go. And so that was exactly what we had in mind. I'd love to ask the question. of the audience how many of you have been here from the beginning that would be an interesting is a comment I'd love to see your comments on the on the YouTube

channel or when did you start listening how long ago because it's I can't we can I know this they have to be at least six years old that's right got to be at least six years old well one woman said she had been she had to go back and listen to the two a day to catch up because she'd come in at about number 60s I was like I tell people who've never heard the podcast. You know, I spoke a couple times this past weekend, and people are like, oh, you have a podcast? And they're like, I'm going to start listening to that.

And I was like, just go back about 100 and start there. Because it's going to take you six years. I said four years the other night. But I was like, it's going to take you, you know, four or five years to catch up. But I was going to say this has also been very good for us. because it's helped, you know, mature our faith. Because I would say, I would say my study time. I'd love to know what y'all is since we're burying our soul in the 1000th episode.

I would say I put 30 hours of study in for the week. And we generally do four a week, sometimes six. So I would say 30 hours a week for six years is a lot of Bible study. Yeah. Mine's probably not quite that much, but the way my mind works, I'm probably getting about twice as much out of the text in half the time. I would actually,

I know that was a little slight at me, but I would actually agree with that. Your memory capacity is a lot better than mine, which is a problem because people will bump into me and they'll act like, I'm ready to discuss episode 797 at the drop of a hat. And they said, another other day,

you were talking about this. and they go into it and I say, no, when was, when was it? They're like episode 714. And I said, let me tell you something. It is whatever I thought at that point, that has been rinsed. I will have to revisit to. And Jay's may not even agree with that. All right, we got a treat here.

We got a, so we got different emails. I've read a couple, but we have one of our listeners with us. I'm going to take a break. Oh, we have listeners. Yeah, we got a listener coming in and tell us a little bit about her story. And so let's take a break. We come back. I'll introduce one of our listeners.

Welcome back to Unashame. We have one of our listeners, Kim Giglio from Arizona. And there are so many of you. We just, you know, it's hard to pick so many amazing stories out there. But Kim came to mind because she had won tickets to come and see the blind with the family. And Kim, if I'd tell this wrong, just correct me. But her nephew wound up being in a terrible accident, and so she couldn't come. But she was so gracious that she offered her tickets to someone else who did come.

And that's how I heard about her story. And so I know she's a long-time listener. So welcome Kim to Unashamed. Well, thank you. And I'll just add, too. I have become friends with the girl that did get to come. Wow. So, yeah, so we like through the internet, we haven't met in person, but we do like a Bible study thing together.

And yeah, so. Well, and that's what struck me about your story. It's such an unashamed story. It's full of grace and everything. So whatever happened with your nephew, did that turn out okay? Because I remembered us praying about that. Yeah, it did turn out okay. So a 17-hour surgery and six months in the hospital, multiple surgeries after that, but not only did he live, but he can walk, which they were very, you know, he walks. He's back in the gym, working out. Really just a God story. And even through that, my sister, his mom, has started going back to church. And so amazing story all the way around.

That's fantastic. So now, before you came on, Zach was saying, I wonder, he kind of challenged out there to Unashamed Nation, how many have been with us the whole time. And you have listened to all, I guess now up to where we're at on the release, but up to a thousand podcasts. You've been there with us, right? That's right. I think I started like 30 or 40 in, but I quickly got caught up. And then I had a really long commute before I retired, some driving two hours each way. I flew twice a week also.

So very consistent listening and staying up to day every week. Do you think that Jace needs to take it easy on me? You know, I think Jace gets a bad rap. Oh, right. Yeah. You know, I have to tell you, your family, the way you pick on each other is very reminiscent. of me and my cousins and so I love it. I get a big kick out of it.

You get it. That's good. And I knew, Zach, the minute you said processed cheese, it's never going to die. I have had nightmares about that processed cheese. I meant to write that down as a cold open. I had a nightmare because my wife the other night made pork chops and it was smothered with mushrooms and onions and we hadn't had it in such a long time. It felt like the greatest meal I had it.

ever eaten. And then that night, I woke up in the middle of the night because I was dreaming about what I had just eaten. And all of a sudden, when I popped the lid, there was processed cheese melted all over the top of it. And I won't go. Do you agree with being on the processed cheese? You have a verdict on it? Oh, I do not agree with you. I'm so sorry. I usually contract with your big words. Like, I don't have a problem there, Zach, but you lost me at the process. Jeez, that's hard. Thank you, Kim.

You settle. You have made, Jason. Jay's feels totally vindicated here. Oh, this has been a great idea. I knew you would like that. So tell us this, Kim, what is, because you're speaking today, because we have some emails, but you're speaking today for Unashamed Nation. So what is it about the podcast that has been the biggest blessing to you?

How has it helped you in your spiritual walk and just your everyday living? Yeah. So, I mean, there's so many. I couldn't narrow it down. It's just there's just so many times where a nugget from a Bible study that you're doing, it's like, oh, man, that's so good, you know, pull over. I've got to write this down. But I would say the biggest one, Al, is, and I'll try and say this without tearing up,

but my husband was diagnosed with cancer on the same day. that you announced Lisa's cancer diagnosis on the podcast. So, and I will say it was very scary. You know, I know I'm not speaking to the choir on this. I was really scared. For me, my husband's not a Christian. So I had that extra, you know, like, oh, no, like what's going to happen? Like, we're running out of time.

The diagnosis and the prognosis was not good at the time, stage four. with the really rare cancer. Now, I'll just, because I don't, I know we don't have a lot of time, I'll just fast forward to say that your calmness and just the way that you trusted the Lord took me from panic to God's got a plan in a very short amount of time. So super thankful for that. He's completed all of his chemo and he's about 55 days out from, the stem cell transplant.

There was no sign of cancer prior to the transplant. So we're just waiting for day 90 to hear the words remission. And I just have really never doubted from that first day, God's got a plan. I know Lisa came on the show and talked about, you don't know why some people are healed and some aren't. And that speaks to me. I just see God's hand. has moved in this, I don't even know where to start with just everything from the fact that we moved from a different state here where the leading doctor for this type of rare cancer happens to be

35 minutes from where we move to, to just the treatment, the doctors that he got, you know, and just how well he's done through all of it. None of the major side effects that come with a stem cell transplant. You know, we were, he was out of the hospital in a very short amount of time, recovering really, really well. And just praying that he sees God's hand in this too. That's awesome. I did not know that.

But man, what a touching reminder for me and that God has a plan as well. And I don't know, Kim, if you've experienced this, but I've said on the podcast that, you know, things like this, that what you're going through, what we went through, give you an opportunity. to serve in a new way as well. Yeah. Not only serve God, but serve your husband. And that's what I experienced with Lisa. And so the spiritual growth I experienced has been powerful, even though sometimes in that

fear where it starts, it allows us to trust in God in a new way, which is powerful. Yeah, and I tend to be the person that tries to fix everything. I think that's just my nature. And this was something where I couldn't do that. And I had to rely on God. And just the thousands of. people that have come out from every women's Bible study I've done. The Unashamed Facebook page has a prayer request section. So Unashamed Nation has been praying for him. Just the thousands of

people that have been praying for him. Like I felt it. It was palpable. I don't know how else to explain it, but absolutely, Al, it has given me opportunities. And I've grown so much from this. That's powerful. What's his first? name? Nick. Nick. As we close out here with you being with us, Kim, can we pray for Nick on the podcast? Love that. Absolutely. Father, I just want to come to you and so grateful Kim has been able to join us today. And I just appreciate her. I'm unashamed faith, how much she trusts in you and the fact that she's been with us along this journey for the last six years. I'm just grateful for her. I pray for Nick today, Father. I just pray a blessing on him physically that his cancer will be He will be in full remission. And I pray his heart will always turn to you for the ultimate answers.

And as we look forward to the great resurrection, we love you. We're so grateful for Unashamed Nation. So many stories like Kim and Nick's out there. And we're just grateful we get to be a part of it every single day. We pray this in the power of Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Kim, thank you for joining us.

Thank you for listening and being a part of the podcast. And so I love your heart. And we just pray guys' blessings on you. Thank you. God bless you all. So that was great. So great to hear from folks out there. I wanted to, in fairness, that to you, because that was obviously a pro-Jase.

Here's one from Paul. Oh, who needs fairness when it comes to process? Hey, we're fair and balanced here on the Unashamed podcast. First and foremost, I love the show. And one of the reasons I wanted to read this email is because I really love where he found out about it. He says my 22-year-old college student told me about the podcast three years ago. So that's fantastic, right? The 20-year-olds, this is our podcast and turns his dad onto it.

I liked it so much. I went back to the beginning and listened to every podcast, which took me one or two a day, until I caught up. It's a great show. I love listening. Greatly respect your father and appreciate how the Lord has worked through him. Secondly, I love a good burger, and I love Kraft, Slice, Cheese. Paul, I love finding out of Paul.

He said, I want Zach's burger recipe. Typical Jace, he cut him off before I got to hear how he made his burgers. Now, now what is the name of this writer? His name is Paul. Can I respond to Paul? You can. And then we're going to have to have Zach tell how he makes it. Since we don't have Phil here, I want to say what Phil would say.

So Paul, there was another guy named Paul, who wrote these words, listen carefully. This is Colossians, the book we're studying currently. Chapter 3, verse 5, Paul saying to Paul, put to death, therefore whatever belongs to your earthly nature. I would surmise that processed cheese would fall into that category. Jason, have you like, did you just come up with that? He did because he has not really. I literally just came up with that off the top of my head, and it's called a sign of the

Holy Spirit. Give me a break. We're talking about processed. cheese. If it's not sinful, it should be. Yeah. You want the, I'll give you the recipe real quick. Give me the quick recipe. Oh, we're doing this again? Give him the numbers. He says you cut him off. I didn't even remember that. I don't remember he cut me off, but the people need to do. Well, you probably, when you said slice cheese, that probably was the end of the end of time. This was right after chapter two when Christ cut off parts of our old self that needed to be detached from the mind, body, He's witty. No one said he wasn't witty.

And you cut it off. You don't go back. Now everybody knows why I cut you off sometimes. I'll tell you what I'll do, Paul. I'll plug my podcast, not yet now. I'll give the recipe on that podcast where I will not be uninterrupted. But it is good. And I have got it figured out.

And it is, the only thing I'm going to do different, though, we'll say this. I will try Jace's son's meat mixture. sure. I am going to do that. That's the only thing that might take it to the next level. Since we're bearing our soul today, now you know that some of the times when I interrupt somebody, it's not because I'm being rude. I'm deeming what they're talking about as a cry for help. So I want to read this one.

I tried to just pick some that kind of representative of a lot of different thoughts. And so this is Zach from North Carolina. I don't know if you sent this in under. I sent this one in. Yeah, I don't know if this is actually a Zach move. No, it can't be Zach because it starts out, says I am a young man from North Carolina. Well, I'm younger than you guys. So I want to personally thank you as I started listening to show back in 2020 when the episode count was in the 60s.

So it's when he picked it up in the 60s. During that time, I had just got sent home from college from COVID, was really struggling with a porn addiction. I knew I needed to quit and was struggling with doing so. the grace of God, I found your show and would listen during times of the day that I was most tempted to look at images and videos. Therefore, while I was completely up to date and listened to every episode, would even know the timing of when episodes would be released as I had to listen to the show almost every day, at least once a day. I cannot thank you enough for redirecting my thoughts away from sin and instead pointing me towards Jesus. One line that Jay said that really stood out to me and helped me was when he said, you have to love Jesus more than you love the sin.

As a result, I'm happy to say that I have not looked at porn in four years and my life is significantly better because of it. I love that. And that's from Zach. So, I mean, in that great. And it really, it just spoke to how much we speak into the word of God. And we keep making the point, as that got it, was the idea is it's not trying not to do something. is trying to get a better picture of Jesus and then through his power is how you overcome things.

And so that's really been a central theme. And that's why that stood out. That's what we talked about in the last episode. Exactly. Colossus to you is not just about denying the flesh. It's being connected with the head. I love that Zach gets that too. And I think that I would just add this is, and this is not a plug of the podcast.

But this is more why this podcast matters and others, not just us. I mean, anyone that's got to been in this content world, you will be shaped by what you consume. I mean, that's an unavoidable fact of life that what you consume, what you spend your time, entertaining yourself with, listening to, watching, it will shape you into a particular kind of person. And what we're really doing here is providing, because it shapes us, even being a part of it, but like providing another thing for you to, like, this is content that you can consume. that our hope and our goal is that it would shape you into the image of Christ, like our Bible study and our own lives has shaped us.

And these conversations, Jason, I mean, I'll tell you right now, like, I mean, us talking every day and now, it has shaped my faith profoundly over the last five, six years that we've been doing this. Yeah, me too. Yeah, me too. impactful. Well, that's what happens. What I want to say is I've always had a, had a theme of, you know, just since I was a

teenager and came to Christ because I was a shy guy back then which is shocking which Phil always jokes yeah when you finally figured it out you went from never sent a word to not shutting up but part of that is I think you know just like the last listener wrote in you know when you remove your old self there's this void of habits that you were doing and well you got to fill it up with something and to me when I started declaring Jesus you to my friends or to the cashier at the wherever I was at or on the plane or just those conversations led to me getting up and speaking well when you do that you have to go study and even this podcast when I told you about all the hours that you spend in it well you're you're just basking

yourself in the character of God through Jesus and his word it's like a byproduct and it comes from be an offensive minded in your faith. And I'm a real big proponent of that. It's like the best way to get out of a sin is to share Jesus with other people. And because people think, well, I can't. And I got two guys right now that have recently come to Christ who are in, you know, they're in a public limelight type of world. And I've spent hours talking to them. them and because they're like well i want to talk about that how do we go how do you go about doing that well and what happens is they start studying they're putting god story through their story just so they can share that but they're asking me all these questions and we're studying and we're going back and

forth well this was time prior to them coming to christ where they were just doing what sitting there watching you know terrible movies or whatever you know it's like they had all this junk coming in their mind and now that's how this kind of works. This is an active faith, which is really what unashamed is all about. You either are going to be proud that you're going to live forever, that you have a purpose on life, you know how you got here, you know how to handle difficult situations. That all comes from having a life in Christ where that's where all the answers lie. What I love about it is that, you know, a note like Zach's we just read, but I got a note from Dwight Franklin, a friend of mine from over in Texas.

And, you know, Dwight's lifelong Christian, strong families, leader in his church, teaches Bible class. But he listens to our podcast because it enhances his spiritual walk. In other words, not that he's not any, you know, he's not perfect. He's not sinless. But he uses what he gets to then enhance and teach other people. And so I love that. You got one guy that writes in and says, you know, you help me through Christ to be able to deal

with this end problem. Another guy is saying, you're helping me teach other people. And that's the beauty of it. It works to everybody that's there. I want to read one more because there's only have a few minutes left. There's a lot of people out there that we love and respect and appreciate what you do. And so there are a lot of notes that came in from military and first responders. And I wanted to read one of those because it's kind of representative of what a lot of other people said. This is Kelly. He says, I'm a firefighter for the U.S. Department of Defense based out of Jacksonville, Florida. I'm also a huge fan of your shows and podcasts.

I was reaching out to let you know how much your podcast had impacted my life over the last year. Me and my family watched Duck Dynasty as well as Duck Treasure, Jase. It's our family nighttime routine, but the podcast has been a lifesaver for me, especially while I was on shift at the fire station. Seeing what we, seeing what we on a mental, on a daily basis, take a mental toll after a while, we need something to take our mind off the calls when we go and witness. Watching, listening to the podcast has really helped me mentally while on shift, as well as in

my Christian walk. What you guys bring to the table means more than you could ever know. As a token of my appreciation, I'd like send you guys a patch from my department and some challenge coins because I know that Jay's and Uncle Si I love their treasure. God bless each of you, and please know your podcast is helping this firefighter. And I love that because it's not just the spiritual aspect in his case, but it also helps him cope with and deal with a very tough job in a very tough situation. So again, what a blessing that is and in a way for us to say thank you for all your first responders and military and veterans out there that listen to us as well.

Very few podcasts can intermingle processed cheese with Colossians 3. Not many people can do what we do here. Exactly. And become a blessing to other people. that's exactly right uh with our last a couple of minutes jace uh what would you say after a thousand podcast um what has stood out to you uh and what we're trying to get done well i guess since we're you know we kind of started telling you about phil i mean uh you know we're at a stage where we believe in the power of god but we also realized that we want to honor phil for uh you know

Phil's always just had a way since he came to Christ to appeal to people. I don't even know what you call it. It's just raw and real. And he just, you know, thinks a little bit differently in life. But somehow through that, a lot of people have come to the Lord. And he was carrying the torch. And I'm just kind of appealing to unashamed nation. You know, we pray that, you know, if the Lord,

wants to use him again in this setting that he can be healed. But no matter what, we're going to honor him, I want to tell a personal story, which I've never shared. But the last few months, I have a guy who was a mentor to me when I was a teenager. And he's a little bit like Zach. He's more in the Bible scholarly realm and is preached and written books. I'm not going to tell you who he is, because he promised that I never would. But a few. A few. months ago he had a stroke and even though I had met him a couple times years ago you know we had only talked via email and I reached out to his family because he just wasn't in the limelight much and I was like is everything okay well he had a stroke and uh and some signs of dimension different things

and he just was really struggling so I reached out to him offered to you know pay some of his medical expenses, which I did, but also just said, look, I want to hire him, because I didn't want to say I'm paying your medical expenses because he would say no. I want to hire him to, you know, be a consultant for our unashamed podcast. And that one thing, according to his family, really give him, it gave him a sense of purpose. And I mean, he's, you know, I think he's at least nine Yeah. But, and sometimes, you know, so he sends me these things, but, and he can't remember, you know, the books of the Bible or the numbers or verses. But what I've learned in the past few months that he has basically memorized the Bible through all his life of sharing. And so a lot of things I share, I get from him. And they're not written in a way. They're just quoted verses with the principles behind it with an emphasis.

emphasis on focusing on that this Bible is about a person and it's thrilling and it's about Jesus. And I just wanted to say that because sometimes when life, you know, comes to you and we're all going to get old, look for those kind of opportunities, not only to honor the people who are getting older, but to make them still feel useful. And I thought, you know, I'm going to share that because it's kind of the madness behind what we did. do. And me trying to have an act of kindness toward him, it really has blossomed into a deep spiritual conversation. And it's just amazing that what the spirit of God can do in a body that seemingly is no longer functional. And so just this past week, he sent me four emails, and I'm telling you, it was like he was 25 years. Oh, I was just like, yes, this is thrilling. This is thrilling.

I love how, I love how, that he, like, something would feel, like, you know, when Phil,

like his, his, his safe space or his, whatever you, hit, when he gets in the, back him in the corner, whatever,

if he, when he, when he gets the back to the corner, he's coming out every time with the scripture. And I, I even notice that now, like,

that's something that's just so deeply planted in him, um, too, it's kind of the same thing. But I, and I, and even it,

well, so much of, even what we even talk about on the podcast, this idea of the kingdom being here and the kingdom being now and to come as well. But Phil was the first person I ever heard to say that. Yeah, I mean, I sat, you know, when I was 19, 20 years old, I mean, he taught me about that the kingdom of God is here. The kingdom of God is now and we are, we are in it.

and there is an urgency to the call of Christ that is happening right now, and it is an embodied Christianity. I saw that and have seen that and continue to see that in the life of Phil and K. And they're in their home and their life. Yeah, no doubt. Well, I just want, I know we're out of time, Al, but I wanted to share that it's really not us. It's the Holy Spirit of God is what the draw is,

and it's Jesus as Lord. And it's these other people in our lives, like my dad and like this 90-year-old man, I was telling you, that have shaped us into being disciples of Jesus and helped us along the way. So that draw to this podcast is more of a spiritual thing and more of a body of Christ thing than just us as individuals. And we know that many of you, I appreciate both y'all sharing that, we know many of you out there view us that way.

And so we're honored, we're humbled. And I'm glad we got to close out the 1,000th episode by honoring those. who have mentored us. So what a blessing. We'll see you next time on 1001. Oh, we're going to do some more. We're going to do some more. Oh, okay. I wasn't sure if this was it. I was like, what happened to Revelation? 1001 is on the horizon. We'll see you next time on Unashamed. Thank you, Unashamed Nation for a thousand great episode. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube and be sure to click that little bell to get notified about new episodes. And for even more content that you won't get anywhere else,

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