Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 101 | Phil's Dangerous Plan, Responding to Demands to Kneel, and Reacting to Injustice

Episode Date: June 12, 2020

Phil, Jase, and Al discuss the ongoing protests and acts of violence in America. They share their thoughts on demands to take a knee, disbanding the police force, how to protest injustice, and what true equality looks like. But first, Jase takes rookie Jep out for a treasure hunt, and Phil's crazy plan to undo beaver damage has Al in tears of laughter. See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX   See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1 - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am Unachanged What about you? Put your headphones on. Yeah, because we can't hear you. And look, you got to remember when you, because that way you can hear yourself, because you're way too far away from the mic.

Just FY. This is fun for our viewers. This is how the sausage is made. I never, I never like to cut that far because I want people to know. this is just like an ever transforming. It's like we've entered the 1800s out and we're like, okay, this is a microphone. These are earphones.

This is being broadcast in virtual reality. Phil's just like, do what? Well, dad's always like, dad for years, I've always, my line for you and I'm out speaking of stuff is my dad was born 100 years too late. Like, you actually probably would, I mean, you're a pretty big deal, I guess, for this last century but there's no telling what they'd be talking about you if you'd have been born 100 years before you were yeah in 1846 there's more than there's more than one day i feel like i'm in a time war yeah well see that's why when i'm metal detect i'm literally going back in time so me and murray

my buddy who got me into metal detecting who's your age who by the way was one of the inventors of the mojo yeah the spinning decoisted about him before who knows he's it's a everybody who's a farmer because he likes to metal detect. So was he when you, because you first met, was he a non-Christian and then came to Christ? Who was he? Murray Crow. Yeah, we told that story on the podcast. I was shared Jesus with his daughter.

Okay, that's right. Writer of the Lord, his mom, her mom was a believer. And then Murray was like, I don't want to have anything to do with it. But through the years, he met you and he came to Lord. Hey, he's one of my best friends. I love you. Oh, I love him. He's one of my favorite.

He's been my biggest fans for my preaching. He was diagnosed with cancer, and he's just had a real tough battle, but I'm going to tell you that, Joker. Well, we went out there Saturday. It's 95 degrees. We're in a beanfield where a town used to be, and now it's just fields. And he had hunted that area before, but he's always been a Civil War buff, and I'm like, look, okay, I went once with him on that.

Yeah, found a few bullets and some buttons off a case. Yeah, but I'm like, you know, okay. Let's find some coins. Let's find some silver, man. And I kept preaching to him about that Luke 15. I mean, it's biblical, you know what I mean? We're sweeping the house and finding the lost coin and rejoice. It brings joy.

I mean, let's do this. So I finally talked to him in to start going to that. People like him, they don't like hunting. hunting old towns because they call it track. You're going through, just imagine, a whole town being devastated and plowed under, and then you run a metal detector on top of it. There's more sounds going on in your head. But every once in a while you get your settings right and you find a little round silver coin,

and it just bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, it's like singing clear music and you stop everything. So I'll play the role of Dad on this. one for vacation i don't i i when do you get to the what's the fun part of that because that's the fun part you're sweating you're grueling you're running across your sounds in your head i's you know i can't even hardly sit on the porch right now but when i clean up all the stuff that i find that that that are interesting and they may not be valuable so look at all that he does it all for that you see all that stuff yeah you need we'll show this picture to you guys a little uh magnifying signage no you need a little

signage, this is where you end up when you've run out of something do. So look, here's the funny part. With all your little stuff, it's like one of my grandsons that's like found a bunch of crap. Everything meticulously spaced out of me, you know, you're like, yeah, okay. All right. Thank you, Phil. That was encouraging. So look, my buddy Murray finds an 1805 Spanish real.

I think that's what it's called when Spain was here. Yeah. I mean, they, at one time, the Spanish flag flew over Louisiana at some point. And we found a coin. Somebody dropped it. They came right before the French. Right, right, right, right. And I found my prize of the day was an 1850 half dime, which he found an 1856 half dime.

I mean, look, if we find one thing like this in three trips. So why did they call it a half dime? You know, not a nickel? Because the nickel wasn't here yet. Ah, when did the nickel come in? The nickel came in like 1860, almost. see three. I'm sure I got that wrong, but it's somewhere in the 18. Somebody will correct you this.

Well, I mean, I'll stop my head. I mean, I think it's 1860s where the nickel started, and then they started making it out of mainly terrible material because they don't hold up well. I found a Buffalo nickel. So five cents was originally a half time in coinage for the U.S. That's right. Okay, I got you. And so I found a Buffalo nickel Saturday. It was 1934, I think.

Of course there. Then they get it down until the Jason and figure it out, you know, the three-cent piece. I found it. That was at my plantation that I, that I wondered about that, but then it occurred to me, a penny would go

and a dime would really go way further than it would now. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, it was. Oh, yeah. This was a lot of money. 30 cents in your pocket. You would have been,

if somebody had just had what you found. Yeah. Of course, now they're worth a few hundred dollars, I guess, that half-time. I mean, it's in spectacular condition. And here's what's funny. And then Murray found an 1856 real dime.

It has an eagle on the back. I forgot because they're all, you know, they would make them and call them this and that. There's different variations. And this thing was spectacular. We find, I find, you see all that stuff I found. Jep, he found. So Jeff was in town.

He went with you. Jeff was in town. He wanted, but he's a rookie. He's only been doing it for just, little bit and there was so much trash out there. Jeff is still looking in the change areas of mom's vehicle.

He was in my truck, rooting around. He's still looking for stuff in the truck. I'm like, Jebba, all you're going to find is just my list changed. He doesn't understand. Well, he's thinking, he's trying to find these rare... I mean, he wants to just laid out for him on the ground, you know, like somebody coming on dropping, you know, 1850 stuff.

That's the term, Ricky. So look, we, we, we, all day out there. And Jelp finds one musketball, which is cool. So you've got your whole blanket full of trinkets. He has one musket ball and a bunch of nails and rebar. And he kept, I went over there one time he had a four foot hole. That doesn't even surprise me.

Look, he has a four foot hole. I said, Jep, what are you doing? He said, well, Murray thinks this may be a brain cramp. The end of the rifle with the spear. Bayonet. He's like, I was like, that's not a bayonet.

I don't know what that is, but you're going to need a bigger shovel. He's like, that's why Jeff found one musket ball. Because he's been an hour digging a four foot up. Yeah, digging up some piece of metal that had something that looked like a spear on the end up, but it wasn't. It was just a big hunk of metal.

I was like, Jeff, you need to, you know, rework your settings. You know what I found, interesting is the farmer pulled up who's given Murray the permission and he was 87 and look everything they tell you to do to live long it was obviously he had not done that he was a huge guy but he made it

he's 87 walking around in 95 degree weather overweight overweight yeah and one of the nicest people he ever going to meet. And I'm sure he's eating good every day. Like he's eating stuff out of his garden and slaughtering pigs. Funny guy. He was like, he said, I don't know why y'all come out here. That's the first thing he said. I don't know why y'all come out here, Murray.

Murray's like, we had already found two or three silver coin. I was thinking, well, I know why we'd come out of here. You know, and he said, I've hunted this thing a hundred times. He said, there's been more people out here, you know? And Murray's like, well, we're, look what we found.

He was looking like, you found that out here? Yep. And Murray's like, well, I'm sorry. We didn't mean to find your church. He said, oh, I quit this. And Murray said, well, would you quit it for? He said, well, one day I bent down and I couldn't get back up. And I thought, well, that's all of this.

Time to shut her down. And he said, I left that metal detector right there. And he said, I've never been back. He said, y'all probably find it out here at some point. You'll probably find it up underneath. He looks like a jappel dig a hole looking for it. He said, come look at my gun I just bought. So we walked over his truck.

I thought he going to show me a gun. It was just some pieces of metal. And I said, what is it? He said, it's a do it yourself. It was a 4-10 that you put together. It was just three or four pieces of metal. I said, well, where's the trigger? He's like, you pump it and you shoot it.

I said, well, you look like you got plenty of money. Why didn't you just buy one and you should pull the trigger? He said, well, that's no fun. I guess that's what happens. Then I gave him a duck call. I said, well, let me give you a duck call for letting it. He said, I don't want one. And I was like, you're the first man I've ever offered a duck call.

It's like, it makes a party favorite. He said, no, I just, you know, I eat chickens. I said, okay, well, let me just give it to you. And you give it to one of your grandkids. But he was a, he was a marvelous, marvelous fellow. That's pretty awesome. That's what we did. Well, Phil, I want to hear about this, this, this problem.

The water came up and I don't like this plan that I heard this first time we're discussing this because I heard from the middleman, which is Jay, which is your son and mom. He said, Phil's thinking about doing something really crazy because the water came up and it was up for months and then it goes down. But you look out there because we're going to plant our duck hole, but the water's not leaving. and so there's a problem that has occurred. I'll let you describe the problem. Well, when you have a levy system and a way to drain your duck water, we drain the duck water so it won't kill all the oak trees. Put it on it artificially, we pump it up,

and a month before duct seed and we start pumping, when we get it at the right depth, we shut down to pump, and we just wait on the reins. Well, that's what we did last year when duck season started last November. Well, about duck season started in November and December and January, and we were still, basically, it was not too deep at the last of duck season, which was the last of January. Well, in February, the river began to rise.

It backs in there. We pumped up. The backwater comes. It's been four in a row. And the river rises each year of the last four years has risen from 21-2 to 47-5 this year. And 40 is floodstays. Forty is but just think about it. A river going from.

And 50 is in the house. We're on the levee. We're on the news. Yeah. Basically it just under 30 feet straight up. Well, you can imagine. and all your levee systems and all your pipes and everything, except the floating duct line.

Water's way, way over them. Well, you wait till all that water begins to fall out. Well, when it fell out, it got down on the top of the levees, and when it come off the top of the levees, I go down there and make sure that water in that 48-inch pipe, water is flowing out. We get it in in the winter, we take it out in the spring and the midsummer, however long it stays,

the backwater, but the backwater started falling out. So, Dad, hold on one second. So I want to take a break. And I also want to mention, as you finish your story, that if this kind of stuff really interests you, you need to subscribe on Blaze TV slash Unashamed to Dad's Show in the Woods with Phil, because we chronicle everything you're talking about. Dad literally takes you through the process and we have shows about it.

So if you're interested in that, check it out. Go ahead. You know, we have one pipe over right now on the dog, we call it. It's a little lake. We pump it up every year. We got it down to where it should be going through a riser that's tied on to a 36-inch pipe. Every time we tear, the beavers don't want that water to go out of there. They want to keep it in there.

I got to take it out of there so I can plant duck food and all that, you know. Well, I got it down to where it was inside the tree line. And we'll tear the beaver down out today when we go back the next morning. it's like we never touched it. They've put it all back. No draining. We tear it out. It drains them the daytime.

They pack it full. So they're working all night. All night. And by the time they get done, it's like you never touch it. We're talking. We're talking tons of earth. Well, I get out now on the other side, when they dropped off the levee, there it's a 48-inch pipe, and we've got a plate that just slides down. I raised that plate up when I saw the back.

water coming. I said, well, no use in trying to, trying to, there's no factor. You didn't want to create the pressure. That's right. So I just raised my plate up and let the backwater 48-inch pipe just blowing in there. Well, it got up, you know, 20 feet deep over that spot. Well, I finally see it somewhere between it going through there. They didn't do it then, but when that river got up at its height and when it started falling out at some point, the beavers got together and said we've got to stop up that pipe. So they literally, I took a, I took a, you think they actually had a meeting? Yeah, they had a meeting.

I took a pole. Phil says they have a demon and I reached down there and I jude that pole up in that pipe, but it didn't go into pipe. It was just a wall, a mud and sticks. Well, and a four foot pipe. Think about it. You got a 48-inch pipe like this, you know, 48 inches. and it's packed full of mud on the front end and logs,

and no water is going through there. Well, now the problem is you say you have to get that water out of there. So what we're going to do is if you go out there and start tearing at that hole, when that beaver down because of the pressure on it, see, the water on the downside is falling out. The water here is way up out. So you've got a projectile is what you... You've got the mother of all commode flushes. This is like, oh, so if you're the man there with a rake and you're reaching up in there, that thing goes loose.

You're gone. You probably would live, but you're going to go 30 feet through that covert at a rapid rate of speed. And it's a while ride for you pop up down on the other end. You could probably survive it, but I don't want to go through that pipe at 15 miles an hour. Jay was telling me this story. I was like, because he's like, we've got a problem. I mean, you got to talk to Phil. And he's telling me everything you just said.

Stone, I'm training him to know what to do when the water is up. Well, he's calling me and saying, I don't know about this. I said, well, what about dynamite? And he said, well, you don't want to tear up your pipe. Well, you said the word, water go, Ricky. So I'm teaching them about water. So what we're going to do is we're going to take a track hole, pull up on the levee where the pipe is.

Look, cut a 20 foot long bitter pecan tree, a tree about like this at the butt. Down there where the limbs come out of it, up there, up there, you know, you got to get the right kind of tree, the limb coming out right. Well, you take one of the limbs about one and a half inches to two inches where those limbs start out. You cut that tree off and you leave you,

a prong on the end of that pole. The prong will be a limb here. This is real life. I'm just, I mean, only on our show would anybody be thinking this. You have a pole, a log, a fair-sized tree with a prong on the end of it. Hook your track hole to the butt in. Here's your hole. I get that prong stuck up in there.

He takes the back hole and when he pulls that blade forward, it, it, tears that mud and them sticks out of there on the top of that mud. It's a roto-ruder. That's the plan. And Jay said, what do you think about that? I said, I think someone's going to get hurt. You better have a really skilled track hole operator. Jimmy Redd.

Oh. And I think local Reddner. No matter what happens, this plan just got more dangerous. The third thing is no matter what happens, you must film this. Oh, yeah. This is must. This will be filmed for In the Woods and Phil. This has to.

Because there's me something epic. It's a pretty good project. I don't have a better plan. Well, what I heard the original plan was before this was hatched was dad told Jay. He said, yeah, Stone, you can just swim out there with this thing you're building and start in on it. He said, but you'll have to get out. You'll have when the thing breaks. It's too dangerous to have a man doing it because of a man doing it.

All that mud gives way. Well, didn't this happen before the dad on the other side of the pipe one time where he. They projectile just blew past him. Oh, yeah. I've been just, you know, blown off my feet before. Sometimes the plugs of mud and stuff are like 10, 10 foot, 8, 10 foot around. It's just mud and logs. And I have, we have juked them with me and Dan got on there.

We'd run the pole. We were in the water. We would run and kept gouging by hand that log. When it finally gave way, I mean, when I saw. saw what happened. I mean, that plug came out. I said the mother of all commode places. This is like about a 10-foot-long this big around of mud and stick just projectile going out the end. Water is powerful. Because you can't just get a backhoe because it's up in the pipe. Up in the pipe. You can't get up in there except for the pole. We're going to have a pole there.

You're doing this. I can tell. Oh, it's going to happen. Yeah. That's in the morning. So I want to know from our list. You wonder what I do. I'm going to say, is anybody else in the world, is anybody else in the world going to be doing what dad is doing tomorrow? You'll have to remember. You get on the black box and you hire you an engineering firm to figure this out, or you use redneck ingenuity and get out there and say,

I think what we'll do is tie a large pole with some prongs on the end and get a track hole down there. and tie onto that and just pull that forward. I mean, that pole is going to go. It's going to tie out whatever in front of it. I like the fact that you've planned out the cutting of the tree, the size, the looking of the prong. I mean, this thing is like a. I'm driving through the woods leaving there after I looked at the problem.

And I'm looking on my right and on my left. And I see a tree and I back up. I said, stone, see that tree right there? And I point it over at two. Because you've got to be long and straight, right? Yep. Straight is an hour. I'm buying the plan.

This was kidding. And I see the limbs. coming off of it. I said, that's about a 15 footer. I said, I think there's our tree, so I'm on, and I wanted one as close as I could get to the pipe because that, that, a tree that long

is heavy. Yeah. So I got to have a trailer. You're basically, you're basically taking a big toothpick for a for a dam and just, that's right. And you're plunging it. I told you. I was like, this sounds like an idea. It sounds like an idea. It sounds like an idea that Phil had after he was eating a steak and he had his toothpick and thought.

Yeah, I just need to get a tree and just grab it with the track. All I can tell you all, the reason I know where to work is I've done it before. I've done it with the track oh, too? I've done it with the track oh, I've done the whole thing. Where was I at? This will work. Oh, man. So the question is, Jay's, well, all this, like one of these days, and hopefully it's not

for a long, long time, but dear old dad will be in heaven waiting on us to get there. and is he going to be able to pass this on to the next generation because I don't know I wouldn't instantly think of that I would be I don't know everybody wouldn't come up. People who hunt old coins on the ground they don't participate in this kind of stuff because what we're doing here is this is mission critical. Finding old coins is not mission critical. It's just I run out of something to do. Let's walk around. I got plenty of money in my pocket. I think everybody has to.

their personalities. And look, mine, I've said this before on this very podcast, which is very frustrating to my wife, I don't, I'm terrible at fixing things. I'm great at destroying them. So what I would do is I would blow it up and I would buy another pipe. That's just what I would do. I would blow the whole thing and start over and get somebody else. If you'll pay for half the pipe, 40-8 inch pipe, 30 feet long is a pretty

expensive piece of that's a lot you're missing something what you're paying for is you get to witness the explosion you see what I mean does that give you a thrill to watch something blow up that's no that's Duk dynasty type crap but that's price it's not real ladies and gentlemen but Phil I like seeing the explosions I mean so so what we just witnessed let's take a break so what we just witnessed on the unashamed podcast I guess is why our podcast is so popular because, you know, all this crap we've been having to watch on TV every day, which is just if you're watching it is misery. And that's the hardest I've laughed since, I guess, two weeks,

just thinking about that one story. I heard the story last night. I was like, hmm, I was hearing it from Jay. Well, I was like, I mean, because he was like, you might ought to go talk to Phil. And he's, he was a little worried he's going to be a projectile. You don't want to follow the plug, that's for sure. Well, I don't want to be any, I mean, you start swinging a tree.

That's right. You know, around. I would never, under any circumstances, and I want to stress this, under any circumstances, I would never, ever walk down the street of a city with a sign over my head, showing with some kind of sign. I'm never going to do that, ever. So I'm glad to know that. No matter how bad it is or what happened. It's not your thing. I'm not going to do that, ever.

I never have, so I don't know that I'd say. think with this podcast, you know, one of the things that happened this weekend was Al preached. And I called, I called you, I was like, Al, of all the sermons I've heard you give and you preach for 20-something years, I thought that was Numero Uno. It was very well. It was fantastic. But it goes to the point. The reason you wouldn't do that, Phil, is because in Jesus, you have something that penetrates the heart. I mean, you think about what the gospel message does.

And I don't mean that just as a phrase. I'm like, who Jesus is. It makes people pause because he addresses all the mistakes people make, which here we have a mistake that was made. And there's been tons of them. And we have injustice that's occurring. And then on the fringe, you have people who are responding improperly with the same degrading of other human beings. So you have more mistakes. Well, here you have Jesus who has an answer for all mistakes, and then he kicks it up a notch and has an answer for our number one problem in life, which is death, which is what occurred that started all this in this moment.

And so that's why we tend to not say, well, I'm going to go protest. We think, well, we need to keep sharing Jesus with people because I know that shares, I mean, that, changes the heart. And look, and the Apostle Paul, which we have it much easier, although we're persecuted all the time. We put no stumbling block in anyone's past so that our ministry will not be discredited. That's why I said, I'm not going down a road with some kind of sign of some cause. Rather, as servants of God, we commend ourselves in every way. Now, what's this list? Here's the Apostle Paul what he was up against. This is 2nd Corinthians 6. In great endurance and troubles, hardships, and distresses, in beatings, imprisonments, and riots and hard work,

sleepless nights, hunger, impurity, understanding, patience, and kindness. Look how good a people, good a person he was, and the people with him, in the Holy Spirit, in sincere love, in truthful speech, and in the power of God, with weapons of righteousness in the right hand and the left, he's got the word of God, through glory and dishonor, bad report and good report, genuine, yet regarded as impostors, known, yet regarded as unknown, dying, yet we live on. beaten, yet not killed, sorrowful yet always rejoicing, poor, yet making many rich, having nothing and yet possessing everything. Now that's a guy. All he wanted was for people to come to a knowledge of the truth about Jesus, his death for the sins of the world, his burial and resurrection,

eternity, immortality. Come on. He's trying to convince him. He's trying to convince him. them and look at that list of things that was happening to him. Because of that, each day has enough trouble of its own without me getting in the mix and cause it. I'm not going to get on the street with a sign and protest anything. I'm going to fear God and do what's right. I'm going to point people to Jesus. And if I take a cursing, a beating, all that, you say, you just have to suck it up and keep going.

So that's my view of it. We talked about on a previous podcast, kind of what's going on, obviously, in the country, and it's still ongoing. And so we talked a lot about that. What my sermon did, I think that kind of was some things that have happened since. And I just want to set the context for us, then I want you guys to weigh in, is in John 6, which we've talked about as well, 1 through 15, was when Jesus had the big fish fry, is what I call it. But, you know, he provided the fish and all that bread. and he had five loaves of bread and two fish, and he miraculously fed at least 5,000 people. Yep.

You know, and we imagine what that looked like was, you know, Smith, you say he was tearing the bread apart when the bread's falling down, and that was the 12 baskets full of just what they picked up. You know, he's literally creating. And so I made the point that we know that one of the fundamental truths from a human perspective in law is that matter cannot be created or destroyed. Right? I mean, that's been unless you're God. Unless you're the creator. And so here he is, he's creating out of five loaves of bread on the spot, enough bread to feed 5,000 at least people. And he's distributing that two fish, two little fish, or I don't know how big they were. And he fed them all fish at the same time. So as this is happening, and he's doing this to show who he is. But what's interesting, I think what advances the story is the last. last point I got to, which to me was really interesting, is that here's, so they just witnessed this. They just had their bellies full. And here's what, here's what happened. After the people, this is

verse 14, John 6th. After the people saw the sign Jesus performed, he just fed them, they began to say, surely this is the prophet who is to come into the world. So they're like, well, this has got to be him. I mean, he just fed us. He fed us from thin air. From thin air. From thin air. Because, you know, I don't know what they knew about what he had, but they're watching the food. I'm assuming he had a little basket there. More than that, it's already looks like anyway. It's been baked the bread and the fish are done.

And they're done. That's why somebody, when you said fish fry, I said that before and I had somebody after I spoke one time, they said, well, he couldn't have fried it. I was like, no, wait a minute here. You're going to make an argument where I said he fried the fish because he only had two. and he multiplied it to thousands. And now you're saying, well, it couldn't have been fried. Well, I think it could have been. I think it could have been.

If you're getting it from thin air, why not just go ahead and fry it in some peanut off? Just go ahead. You're letting that stop you from appreciating the story? What they're going to say is Thomas Jefferson, by the way. No matter what happens, we're going on to get into Thomas Jefferson. A whole hero in certain matters. Old Thomas, he couldn't buy this.

He looked at what Jesus said and the way he lived, and he said, that I can't argue with. I'm a Christian in the sense. I hold to what he said a man ought to be like. He was looking at the model of Jesus' life. He said, but when it came to the loaves and the fishes and the resurrection of the dead, Jefferson said, nope. He never said that, but I just read his writings.

When you got to the resurrection, he stopped right there. He also never said anything about the loaves and the fishes. So the bottom line is, you know, they don't mind saying matter can't be created nor destroyed. They don't mind saying before there was a cosmos, where did it come from? where did all that matter come from what was there before the cosmos came into existence and they say the atheists and the agnostics and the unbelieving there was nothing there they don't mind then saying well nothing came made nothing and all of a sudden it makes the cosmos start there Well, if nothing made the cosmos, why would they have a problem with the one who said,

no, I made the cosmos? Therefore, the loaves and the fishes is a no-brainer. This is easy. You can make the cosmos, baking some baked bread, and it's just coming out of the atomic makeup of things. It's just, if you control the atoms, you can do anything when it comes to. No, when I was in, hang on, let's take it way. When I was in biology in 11th grade, the question was, whatever the question was about can matter, be created or destroyed. And I was like, yes, God does it all the time.

That's right. Bong, wrong. Because I went up there and said, hey, I believe this. She's like, well, that was not the right answer. And I just said, well, mark it wrong. Give me an F. which he did which he did

and I'm still bitter about it which you've already said you weren't much of a student anyway so here is my point so they they recognize him in the moment with the full belly

and I think and again I'm taking a little license here but I think they're thinking about the possibilities of what this would look like here you got a guy think about you got all the fish you have all the fish

I mean the guy can just feed anybody oh yeah so So you talk about an army. You know, people are always worried how do you feed our army? And they're thinking, well, we got the guy that can't. Miss Kay figured out a long time ago. If you feed them, they will come. So yesterday, I told the story that it's like maybe, I don't know how long it's going.

This is probably 40. I remember. I was, we had just gotten back to WFR, our church. And so dad had a class. And Stevenson, by the way, texted me during my sermon. So when I get through, I go over there and look at my phone. and Stevenson is watching, I guess, from Colorado. But Stevenson was our first cameraman.

Yeah. For the... For the first, probably five Dutman videos. For Dutman videos, which is funny because... He's the father... Yeah, insurance. And he's the father of Dan. He works for me.

Phil went up there and was like, you know, I think you'd be a good guy to film, you know, our videos because you're steady 80s, what you call him. And he's like, Phil, I sell insurance. He worked for State Farm. And I was like, no, I'm telling you, you got the right. And obviously he was. So Stevenson, by the way, I'll just throw this in. So he gave me a little update.

He said that DeLukey, you took over DeLukey's class. I never knew that. Don DeLucci, one of mine and Jason's instructors in school, was teaching at WFR. And then he wasn't after that. And Stevenson was his assistant. And so Stevenson said, you know, I need to get old Rob up here to teach this class. Because you were still, I mean, this was, you only been a Christian six or seven years at this point. And so that's how you started teaching that class.

But anyway, it was about 75 people in the class. It was very popular. I remember it. And people love coming to it. And you were teaching. And so you said, well, look, let's have a class fish fry down in my house. I'll provide the fish and y'all come eat some fish. And so you're looking at your 75 member class and thinking that's who's going to come to a fish right.

I fish for a living, no problem. So I remember, I remember days like you like yesterday. So we're getting ready for it. And you've caught the fish. we've helped clean them and we're getting ready to fry everything up in the car started coming. Yeah. And they kept coming. And started stacking up.

And we couldn't even park everybody. Couldn't see the end of them. I remember thinking there's nowhere else to park because you're surrounded by water. So Dad's looking at us and he's looking at all the people because they're just streaming in. So this is just like this moment. That class is swelling. So a class of 75 turned into about 250 people. And so dad looks at us and says like, boys, go hit the nets.

I hope there's some fish out there. And so Jason and I take off. You know, you're starting the process. We got to go catch a bunch more fish, clean them. And like you're cooking. I dressed enough for 75, but I didn't have enough dress for 250. That's right. And so Jason and I are like, we're like a factory.

We're cleaning fish and getting it to you. You keep frying. People keep eating. We had this miracle without the miracle. I mean, we were the miracle. The miracle is blood, sweat, and tears. The fish were in the net. Well, that's true.

And it was taking money because this is like, this is what we would have sold. That's right. But look, what I love about dad is, number one, you never thought twice. You thought we got people here. We're going to feed them. Which, by the way, is just what Jesus thought, by the way. Remember he said he looked on the crowd in Mark 6? And the disciples are saying, send them on.

I would have never walked out in the yard and said, let me tell you, folks, I don't know where you come from. I recognize you as members of the church up there. But, you know, this is for my class. We don't have enough feet. I would have done it. You never did it. You respond to. Suck it up and go get some little fish.

Read this, the audience, read this in the Mark 6 context because Mark gives a little different flavor. But you don't get it in John. But in Mark, he says, Jesus looked down. The disciples are saying, send them home. Like, send them to go get something to eat. Jesus is like, no. And that's when he came with the idea. We're going to do.

That's right. You said, get some more meal. Get some more fish. You know, the basic human needs or weaknesses is they love free fish. That's right. I mean, you say come free fish fry down on the riverbank, they're coming. That's right. If you cook them, they're coming.

I've seen it many a time. Well, and I talked about in the context of the reason we knew that is because when dad was first, you know, came to Christ, he would have out our preacher and some other of our mentors, the guys that mentored all of us. and they never turned down a fish fry. Well, of course not. You know why this was Jesus' idea? Exactly. It's not like we came up with it. That's right.

He started breaking some fish's cat one time. The next time you get the chance, you'll come back for more. You're coming. You're coming. And you're following. And that's why later he came up there and said, yeah, you're following me around. Not because you think I'm all that great. I'm paraphrasing, but you want some more of that fish and bread.

That's exactly right. He kind of gives them a little chat on it. Let's take our last break. So my point is, verse 15, this is where I got in the sermon, which I thought was kind of the most poignant thing about this. And this kind of brings it into the current thing with dad time. It's a very obscure, unusual, phrased passage. It is. And it struck me, I'll admit, if I had just taught this in any other setting, I probably wouldn't have thought about how I illustrated with it.

But obviously, this last week of these protests that led to riots that have led to violence and everything our country is going through. So look at verse 15. Jesus, so remember they said, he's the private, he's him. Jesus, knowing that they intended to come and make him king by force, withdrew again to the mountain. So he's knowing what their intent is, and it was interesting because, and this is what took me into the current climate, is he knew they were going to turn this into a mob scene real quick.

We went from a fun fish fry and some teaching to their, they've realized that, you know what, we can take, we can overthrow, we can get rid to Rome. Free stuff. Free stuff. Just think about that statement. We're going to take Jesus and make him a king by force. He's the Messiah, the prophet.

Knowing all the grub you want and it's all free. I've heard that line somewhere before. I just want to say this one statement. You can't make Jesus do anything. That's right. And nor should you try. But the more Al brought up this point, the more I got to thinking, you know, in small ways and in big ways in the religious world and in the non-religious world, that's the way humans operate. That's right. We try to take the Godhead or any aspect of it and just force it to fit whatever we want to happen. You say, well, why would they do that? Why would he know that they wanted that? Because they want to dictate policy.

You're our king and this is what you're going to do. Right. Here's what we want to do. We want to first take over wrong. We want some more of this fish. On our schedule. This is what, there's meetings. They were looking around saying there's 5,000 of us.

He didn't go to town, but he's feeding all of us. We with him. That's right. Except on our terms, not on his terms. It's the old thing. It just keeps giving. Just keeps giving. So here's what's interesting, Jay.

And I don't think I, I don't even think I got to this on the, I'm looking at my nose. Look at all the scratches. So I don't even think I. got to this on my sermon. But it struck me when Jesus had this awareness moment that what the crowd was thinking they were going to do and he knew it. So he just kind of backs away. It does his little Jesus Jedi trick. What Satan tried the same thing with him when he tempted it. Remember when he took him? Jesus had the 40-day fast. Satan shows up. He first he told him he said, make bread. This is what I'll give you. Make bread. Jump off the temple. And when he told him jump

out the temple, he quoted scripture. Here's Satan quoting scripture, which I thought is interesting. And then the third one, he took him up on a mountain. And I don't know if this is in their mind or they trans, I don't know how it all happened, but somehow they're up on a mountain looking. He said, look at this. He's looking at the whole, you know, all these people, Satan's like, these are mine. But if you'll bow the knee to me, we can do this together. And Jesus said, I serve the Lord God only. In other words, I'll never bow the knee to you. And so what struck me about the sermon, and I made the point, is this last week we've seen a lot of this kneeling concept that we're for this movement or whatever. At a protest.

And then even trying to force people to kneel. And there was a – I just saw a couple of days ago there was a black state trooper in Georgia. And they're trying to, you know, control the crowd. And they're starting in on them about trying to make him kneel before the crowd for this – for the cause. and he said it, what I said in my sermon. He looked at them, and the only thing he said, he's just mostly looking at him, calling him names. He said, I bow the knee to one. That's what that state trooper said.

And I thought that was kind of the point in my sermon is that if we bow our need to Jesus, we don't have to get into these causes and all this. I don't bow my knee to any man. The president of the United States, I bow my need to Jesus. Or for any reason. It he calls, any ideology. Because a lot of people say that it's a sign of protest, but when you think about what we do to Jesus,

which comes back to this same thing, it's hard sometimes to see victory through bowing the knee or surrendering. But that's the way, that's the path to victory. Because you think about this. Who are we to dictate anything to God or Jesus about anything? We don't take him by force. We don't demand things. We don't come up with a plan.

and say, God, do this, this is our plans. I mean, it's the complete opposite. We bow the need of Jesus and we say use us. However you see fit. If somehow we would try to go forward, either in our faith or even in our country, with the idea that we're going to make demands that you have to do this, think about where that runs itself out. And some of the crazy stuff that's happening, I mean, you've got now a city saying,

you know what, we're just going to get rid of it. of the police force. Let me just tell you that's going to be a bad idea. I'm going to go on record as saying that's not going to work. You're not going to believe how fast they go get off of that. It's be terrible. But again, it's that idea. And this struck me as that. And I guess

Jay's I'd never thought about it before because you said it early on the last time we talked about this, the evil one is the architect. When you see this much damage to people and division, because John 10 said he came to steal, kill, and destroy. And I would add to that device. But it's not just in

the unbelieving world. I'm putting that in quotation marks. You know, because when it says the evil one, when Paul said in Corinthians, where he said the, you know, Satan masquerades as an angel of light. It's not like when you said he quoted verses. It is. It's not as clear cut as you think, oh, you know, it's obvious these people who are un-American and don't love humans and look at this opportunity as an opportunity to create chaos. It's kind of obvious to see that. You're thinking, well, this is not, that's not right. What's harder is what we're talking about on, you know,

how do you protest something? That's why I started saying, you protest things by surrendering to Jesus and introducing him to other people. That's your answer. That's your protest against injustice. I mean, we hate injustice. just as much as any other people.

It makes me nauseous when people make a decision at the color of someone's skin. I mean, that is nauseating to me because I'm like, we're all different. That's right. Whether, you know, we're not really, me and you are not exactly the same color. I mean, that's just so silly to me. And whatever the racist skin color is, I'm just as disgusted. If it's a white guy that's racist toward somebody else, that disgust me just as much as it does any other form of racism. But you got to remember, we draw so much attention to it.

I'm like, I would love to live in a society where we don't notice that anymore. Yeah, that would be great. But it's like on both sides of the issue, everyone wants to be noticed, you know, on what color we are and the things that happen. That's why I'm saying, Jesus is where we drop, we drop down to our knees. And you say, why? Because he controls the molecular structure of all things. and everything he represents, like you quoted on Thomas Jefferson, he couldn't get around, is right. He is true.

He always valued people, every person. Right. So I'll close with this. Man, that seemed to go by fast. Galatians 3, 26 through 29. This is how I closed my sermon. So in Christ Jesus, you are all, all. That's all lives.

And they do matter. Children of God through faith. For all, all lives. all of you were baptized into Christ who were have clothed yourselves with Christ what we're talking about just work what we see is Christ there is neither Jew nor Gentile which think about that statement that that included all the races right there everybody there's neither slave nor free which is all kind of classes of it's not like what we think of modern day slavery but this is all classes of people nor is

there male or female no gent this gender stuff all one for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you're Abraham seed and heirs, according to the promise. You want to find true equality? You'll find it in Jesus. That's it. Amen. It's a good statement to end on.

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