Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 1034 | An Update on Phil’s Health, Upcoming Surgeries & Jase Channels His Inner ‘Exorcist’

Episode Date: February 3, 2025

Jase doesn’t pull any punches when describing his recent illness, which left him almost certain he was dying. His brush with illness leads to an update on Phil’s health, spirits, and upcoming procedures. The guys cover the supernatural circumstances of John the Baptist’s birth, as well as the mystery concerning the Holy Spirit’s appearances in the Old Testament, New Testament, and today. Plus, why did Jesus have to go back to Heaven instead of staying on earth? In this episode: John 1, verse 19; John 1, verse 51; Luke 1; John 14, verses 16-26; John 15, verse 26; John 16, verse 7; 1 John 2, verse 1 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? I saw a picture of the Duck Boys on Instagram, and Jace, I hate to break the news to you, but the Duck Boys' final picture of the duck season was the Duck Boys with two big bucks, not ducks. So I don't know what kind of, what that means. It's being addressed. And they actually called themselves the Duck Boys. They, like, the duck boys had a great season. I'm like, I'm looking at you with two big monster deer.

You want to pick a fight. I'm, uh, I've been fighting for three days. No, let's see. When's the last time I saw y'all? The last time you saw us was two days ago. Two days ago. Let me tell you what happened after that session. And I want to apologize for those two podcasts because I kept thinking,

why I'm so tired? And I was just, I was feeling. I wasn't. feeling good. But I have the Holy Spirit. I'm like, we're talking about things. I don't even remember what happened. Let me interject, Chase, because I felt like that was two of the best podcasts we've ever done.

Well, I will take zero credit for any contribution I made because that was surely the Holy Spirit of God because as soon as I walked out of this room, I started feeling a little discomfort. And I went to the bathroom. and I thought, whoa, that was messy. Then somebody wanted to talk about something. I don't even remember the conversation, but I just had to end it.

I thought, I got to go. I'm not feeling real well. So when I got home, it got worse. Because then I could tell I had fever. It got more messy is what you're telling me. Well, you know, it's been a long time since I have, thrown up with force uncontrollably. And so I got into one of those deals where it's kind of like a stock picker trying to

figure out what's where the next vibe is coming from, you know, but in this case, I only had two choices. But it did occur to me, you know what I think we need? I think in our toilet industry, I think you need to buy a toilet when it may have happen only once over 10 years because you get into a situation where you have two places where things are coming out but you're only in one hole and I literally was doing some kind of weird dance I would sit down I would get up I'd turn my head over I'd sit back down I was looking at that wall thinking you don't realize how danger there's an accurate call T.

Am I, Jason? No, I'm just saying this is what real people go through. I saw a quote somewhere. When you go through hell on earth, that's when you realize you need the presence of God in your life. There's 150 Psalms out there that describe that. And I really think, you know, we're reading Romans 8. I was thinking Romans 8. All these scriptures were popping in my head in between whatever that was that seemed to go on for,

hours, but because you do a lot of praying in that moment, because you really think in the short term, you're dying. Yeah. I mean, this is, what was the movie that, you know, they got into the demonic, you know, they always do the demonic things and you start throwing up. So I don't know. Maybe that was the connection. Yeah. The exorcists. So I actually think I've lost weight because since that 24-hour period, I haven't felt real good.

I had a few fever belts, but, you know, everything I do is I take some water and I just sip it. And then you say, okay, I think we're good. You know, so I've been sipping a little coffee. Maybe like a salting cracker to ease back into the solids. That was the first thing I ate. I ate about six crackers. And I thought, okay, well, then last night, because now I'm two or three days into this. Missy had made our parents, Al, some meatloaf and mashed potatoes.

She actually cooked there two days in a row. Which, by the way, mom was raving about because I talked to mom pretty much every day. And she was telling me she was like, Missy's meatloaf was every bit as good as one I ever made and how good it was and how appreciative they were. So that's good. Well, they actually ate it twice, which is because then, you know, Phil wasn't doing good the second day, she said. And so I was going to give you a little feel report. And that's one of the reasons I'm here today because, you know, it's all about perspective.

Getting better is something we take for granted. Yeah, it's a good point. And so right now, look, I feel not great, but I'm better than I was. And I'm pretty sure, you know, I'll be better as time goes on. But that's been sad about my dad because he's just, he has these conditions that. that they do not seem like he's getting better. I mean, we just have a little short stance where he feels better. And so he's got bad news, and he's got more fractured vertebrae.

Yeah, multiple. So we've had six already. Yeah, this would be seven. Well, I think it's more than one. But anyway, so that'll be happening. But what you see is, like, you know, Missy, went down there Monday, and he seemed fine mentally. But then yesterday, which was Tuesday, he didn't seem to.

He was going to lead the prayer, and he couldn't lead the prayer. I mean, it was just a long pause. And one of his cousins was there, one of his cousins was there. You remember old Mac Hobbs, Al? Oh, yeah. And they were visiting him and married. two of the sweetest family members that we have and loved them to death. And it was really difficult for them, you know, to see Phil in his current condition.

And so he, as he said, he said, Phil, let me finish that prayer for you. You know, of course, then he got teared up. It was very emotional. Now, having said that, Willie went down there last night and Phil was perfectly fine, the best he had seen him mentally. So it was like just in a few hours, he was perfectly fine. And so it's very frustrating. But that's a feel report.

So keep praying. You know, we're trying to make him comfortable. And I think for the most part, we've done a pretty good job with that. You know, he has more better days than bad days. And I'd have to say, Jay, this has definitely been a rally point for our family in terms of, you know, us cooking. and a couple of times last week when I was in town, you know, Lisa went out and actually cooked there and just, you know,

visited because what happens is, you know, they're just in the house now all the time too and they don't get out much. So, you know, just an encouragement. So, you know, it's like anything else. You go through something as a family. You have to decide, you know, what are we going to do about this? We're going to rally to it, you know.

And so I think it's a good thing for any family that's going through a difficult time. You can sit around and, you know, just feel terrible about the situation. Or you could say, let's pull together as a family and make it the best we can. So that's kind of been our approach. And we've had a lot of new ideas. We actually had a meeting last night. I was just on the phone because obviously I didn't. Because no one wants to be around you about now.

If this was contagious, which my wife, either she has supernatural forces. She just doesn't get sick very often. And I thought, babe, you're getting this. I mean, because she was just been in close proximity. But she hasn't. So evidently it's either not contagious or my wife just, she just doesn't get sick. Or she hadn't got it yet. Yeah, but I'm going to tell you, she gets sick about once a decade.

So now when she does, she goes down. But so anyway, she's been real nice. But I have my computer today because I haven't been able to prepare. I literally was so just, you know, when you have fever for a long, period of time. It just, you can't rock. I couldn't write.

I couldn't see straight. And so I'm going to do this Bible study today on the cuff. So we'll see how that goes. Well, I mean, we're talking about John the Baptist. I mean, we are to,

yeah, we're kind of in our wheelhouse here. And we did have a preliminary, Al, Jason, I had a preliminary discussion before the podcast. I did call him this morning. Ah, so y'all are having

podcast before the podcast. We did, and I said, I've been thinking about this. I've been unable to write anything down, but I kind of ran it by Zach, and he thought it was an interesting discussion. So there's your cliffhanger. I don't like it. Yeah, so, yeah, I don't know. Well, I'm here. Myself and the audience are awaiting this epiphany.

Well, do you want to just, do you want to go ahead and dive into this? Why don't you do what you were going to do with the book? of John, and then I'll figure out how to go down this. All right. I'll catch this up because we've been for a minute or two in John 1, 1 through 18. And just because, as we've described this, it's the prologue to the book of John, but everybody's trying to describe it. It's like you take everything about Jesus and just condense it down into this one package

that's so powerful. Every time you begin to unwrap it, you just run into this whole new line of thinking. And that's kind of what we've been doing for the last few podcasts. And then in the middle of this, he gets to this concept of John the Baptist, who is like this witness to the light and to the life. And so last time we were on the podcast, we got into that more specifically in the verses. And of course, it takes you back to the Old Testament. We talked a lot about Isaiah, 40, Malachi,

three and four because John the Baptist have been predicted as Jesus had been predicted throughout all the Old Testament. So it's kind of taken us back to that concept that all of the Jewish history has now come together in this moment with this forerunner coming on the scene. And everything he's doing is like prepping the people for what's going to happen. The interesting thing is you're not prepping it for way in the future. He was prepping it for literally in his lifetime. And so the last thing I said about this, because now we've gotten down to John 119, is that this unique role he played wasn't just as this Elijah, you know, in the flesh kind of person, but he was also a family member. He was some kind of cousin. And he actually was, you know, given the Holy Spirit in the

womb, the Bible says, in Luke 1. So, I mean, you know, this guy is an amazing person. And now we get to this witness part of what he's going to do. So that kind of gets us back to where we are. That little mention of Luke 1 is where I went down the road. Yeah. Because, you know, when you think about this, you seem to have, you know, Jesus being portrayed, which in John 1, you know, we didn't say,

this is kind of like an overview that's almost poetic and then you see it lived out in all these whatever you want to call it some people call it like a symphony or portraits or with all these conversations and signs you know some people break it down to like the first 12 chapters are these signs and then 13 through the end is the glory revealed in what Jesus does and who he is. And so all these things in John 1, I mean, he starts from the beginning, which is interesting because if you look at the other three gospels,

what they call the synoptic gospels, you know, they all have interesting starting places, and you can go look them up and see. But John, he's like, let's just go back to the beginning. which I think is interesting. And so he's tying up basically creation with this new creation that Jesus is going to introduce. Would you agree with that? Yeah, for sure.

Well, when you get to light what we're going to get to in the end of John 1, he goes back to this story with Jacob's Ladder, and you see this kind of this quote from, I believe it's, Genesis 28 when he said in 31, I tell you the truth, this is John 151, you shall see heaven open and the angels of God ascending and descending on the son of man. And he kind of introduces this what we would call temple language, which in their mind, the temple was where heaven and earth intersected. It's where God and man met.

And so everything their world was, from a Jewish standpoint, was about this temple. And so then even in John 2, you know, his first sign is this at a wedding banquet, you know, which leads to him clearing the temple. Remember, and then the argument that came out of this. And Jesus says, you destroy this temple. This is 219. and I'll raise it again in three days. And the Jews replied,

it has taken 46 years to build this temple, and you're going to raise it in three days, but the temple he had spoken of was his body. And so if you tell all that together, this ladder where Jesus is bringing heaven to earth together, think about, you know, Ephesians 1, 10, then you say, what's the significance of John,

the Baptist. Well, when I read Luke one, I was shocked at, even though I've read this many times, we actually did Luke in a podcast. Did we not? In a podcast, the whole book. But I don't think we made note of this. And I just kind of wanted to read where the details about John the Baptist arrival, you mentioned it.

Yeah. And before I read that, Luke won, just to go down my rabbit hole, where I had this idea is when I read in John 1, where is that verse where it said the priest and they came to John. Let's see, let me read the. The priests and the Levi's. Yeah, Levites came to John. So let's just read the John 1 first. That was in 19. Yeah.

So verse 6 is there came a man who was sent from God. Now that little statement there, they came a man. Well, Luke 1 tells how that happens in graphic detail. Correct. And you'll see some interesting things. His name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light so that through him all men might believe. He himself was not the light.

He came only as a witness to the light. He came only as a witness to the light. The true light that gives light to every man was coming to the world. So then when you skip down to verse 15, says, John testifies concerning him. He cries out saying, this was he of whom I said. He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me, which kind of goes in.

Which is quite the statement. Yeah, which let's just stop and think about that. But it goes in with what John's beginning, going back to the beginning was the Word and the Word of God and the Word was God. So then verse 16, from the fullness of His grace, we have all received one blessing after another. The law was given through Moses. Grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. So then go to verse 19. Now this was John's testimony when the Jews of Jerusalem sent priest and Levites to ask him who he was.

And he did not fail to confess freely, I am not the Christ. So he was basically saying what some people call. He was a signpost or a forerunner. Yep. So if you look up Levi's, Levites and priests, just a standard definition, what would y'all say? I'll look it up on here. The priesthood for Israel was all from the tribe of Levi. So like this is the, these are the heritage guys, the one tribe that was picked that their role was to service at the temple.

They did the sacrifices. They did the cleansings. They ran the whole show at the temple. They ran the whole show. And so out of that group, you would have a high priest and you would have all these hierarchies. But then these were some sort of probably mid-level guys, which we mentioned that Zachari, who was John the Baptist's dad, was more of a low-level guy. but they were all from the tribe of Levi. So I don't know that there's the significance between the two, but they were all from that group.

Well, I think the key is there's that priestly role that was reserved only for people, men from this particular tribe. Correct. You don't have a legitimate priesthood outside the tribe outside of the tribe of Levi. Which, by the way, Moses and Aaron were from this tribe. because they were brothers and it was kind of interesting because Aaron has kind of seen as the father of the priesthood, but Moses was also a priest, which is a whole other. Well, to read the AI overview, which I mean, I think at some point we needed to change that to something. Because everybody's all wigged out about AI, which, okay, it's coming. I mean, we just had the whatever the Chinese came up with, the deep, whatever it was.

Yeah. Whatever it was. Deep Seek, I think. Deep Seek. Well, it's, you know, is it really artificial or is it just a compilation of all the data? Yeah. The idea of artificial intelligence is an oxymoron. It's bar, it's barring from intelligence that we have already inputted into something.

That's what I thought. Me and my wife talked about that. But I was just thinking artificial intelligence, because I'm, when I read this definition, I think they got it right, but they just went in there and figured it out. But it says in the Bible, priests and Levites were both classes of people who served in the temple in Jerusalem. Oh, I think that's significant. And some people who listen to our podcast might not have known that. But I just thought, well, isn't that interesting that the first definition that comes out has to do something with that temple.

and the next chapter at the end of the first chapter of John and chapter two we're going to get into a lot of temple talk and so it made me go over and read Luke one and what's funny is I have a NIV version which I do not go out on the streets and say oh I love this version of the Bible sorry for those who have come up with that version but I've read the same Bible soul long, I just, I can't function without it. I'm back in 1984. But what I noticed is when you read online, which is why I brought my computer, well, the NIV, they've changed a lot of their translations since 1984. Yeah, they upgraded in 2011, I think. Yeah, and that's going to be significant because of what I'm going to get to. But I just wanted to read this on the birth of John the Baptist

foretold. I mean, this is such a crazy story. story. And even in Luke's beginning, he says, because I see the word come up, when he says in verse, well, just let me read the first two verses. Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. Interesting take, because John, you know, in the beginning was the word. His is capitalized, but it's this same idea about

when God makes a promise and think of Hebrew 6, it's impossible for God to lie. Or when God says something, it happens. That you can trust it. His word, and think of the Isaiah 40 that we read.

Remember it said, His word endures forever. And that was the same quote that John used in the John the Baptist coming. And, you know, it's interesting, Jace, because you make a good point, because Luke is saying in this first two verses of his gospel that he's the very first of this second generation of people, you know, listening to the witnesses.

Because, you know, he was a doctor from Ephesus. But he's now listening firsthand to the people that saw it, which now all these 2,000 years later, as we talked about last time in the podcast, we're still getting the eyewitness accounts from what we read in the scriptures. Yeah. So I want to read some of this, which seems historical. And at first you think, oh, this is kind of boring, which is why I probably never noticed this before. So I was given the details, verse 5, in the time of Herod, king of Judea, there was a priest named Zachari.

Well, what was he? He was a priest. So what did he do? He worked in the temple. Now watch how this works, who belonged to the priestly division of Abijah, his wife Elizabeth was also a descendant of Aaron. Both of them were upright in the side of God, observing all the Lord's commandments and regulations blamelessly. So that was kind of their credentials, and it's the reason God chose them. Because we talk about God choosing John the Baptist, but I'm going to make a point that he actually chose Zachariah and Elizabeth for a person.

purpose, which led to another purpose. And there was a miracle or supernatural intervention that occurred because verse 7 says they had no children because Elizabeth was barren. And they were both well along in years. We'll do the math. This is, you know, when you reach a certain age, you're no longer able to have kids. Right? Yeah.

It's like an Abraham Sarah type of. Yeah, it's all connected. Well, yeah. So, I mean, like, when we start talking about he foreshadowed, there was a lot of foreshadowing going on. And he chose a guy in the temple. And look how he chose him. I just was fascinated by this.

Verse 8. Once when Zacharize's division was on duty, he was serving as priest before God. So it's just a random thing where he's chosen by priest before God. And guess how he was chosen by a lot? I mean, this was just random. He happened to be chosen. I'm being sarcastic here, but. It was their version, Jays, of the lottery.

We would, you know, where you just put some names in a hat and draw one out. I mean, that's basically how a lot was done. Which doesn't seem very Christ-like, but just, I'm just saying this is the word of the Lord. He was chosen by a lot, according to the custom of the priest, to go into the temple of the Lord and burn incense. And when the time for the burning of incense came, all the assembled worshippers were praying outside. Then an angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing at the right side of the altar of incense. This was not a normal functioning thing that was happening. He's because God had a plan.

When Zachariah saw him, he was startled and was grit with fear, but the angel said to him, Do not be afraid, Zachariah, your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son and you are to give him the name John. He will be a joy and delight to you and many will rejoice because of his birth, for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit. even from birth, which is a passage I've never really understood. And that's why I wanted to bring it up.

But seeing us how this is a miraculous or however you want to, how should we characterize this. One thing since you're there, I've mentioned, because I read this text too, Jays, is the Greek word there could be birth or in the womb, which when you read later about how it went down, I think is a better translation than even birth. Let me see how they changed that since 2000. I looked that word. 115 says, for he will be great in the sight of the Lord.

He is never to take wine or form in a drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even before he's born. So they even amended what I read. Yeah, exactly. I think it's a better, yeah. Yeah, I do too. Well, let me read this version then moving forward. He will bring back many people of Israel to the Lord their God.

And let me start right there because what I was going to say about that being filled with the Holy Spirit or under the influence. You know, we were taught, Al, in Bible school, when you see that, there's something miraculous happening. You're being filled. You remember when the Holy Spirit was poured out in people. It says they were filled and they began to speak in tongues. It's usually some kind of miraculous spirit. Now, that's not always the case. You know, in Ephesians 5, it says be filled with the spirit.

sing to one another and with psalms spiritual songs and hymns you know but i'm just saying as a general rule you do like in this case and and the point you're saying well how come you don't understand this because in john seven there's an interesting and somewhat controversial uh what do you call it when uh the writer throws in his opinion parenthetical maybe parenthetical thought yeah in john seven and i want to read this uh in verse 37 of john seven it says on the last and greatest day of the feast jesus stood and said in a loud voice if anyone is thirsty let him come to me and drink whoever believes in me as the scripture has said streams of living water will flow from within within him. So that is like, oh, what is that, what does that metaphor mean? Well, if you're thinking that,

then he throws in what that means. By this, he meant the spirit whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time, the spirit had not been given since Jesus had not yet being glorified. So I bring this up because, well, I thought John the Baptist was filled with the Holy Spirit at birth. And then here it says, the Holy Spirit hadn't been given yet. What does that mean? Do you see what I'm saying?

Yeah. So if someone who was not familiar with this, how would you explain that is where I'm getting that, which is why I've always, when people ask me about Luke 1, well, how did John the Baptist, how was he filled with the Holy Spirit if John said in John 7 the Holy Spirit hadn't been given? Well, and my answer would be I can go back in the Old Testament and give you probably four examples where men of God throughout Old Testament history before Jesus even, the Messiah even came, had the Holy Spirit given to them for specific purposes. So it's not like this Holy Spirit.

We even had a talking donkey. Exactly. There's a big difference, and I had this exact same conversation on the Not Yet Now podcast, because I was talking about this baptism of the spirit. And then someone had made it in the comment section on the YouTube, on the YouTube channel that having the Holy Spirit is clearly separate from salvation. And they had mentioned a couple instances in the book of Acts. But I made the point, there's a difference between a gift of the Holy Spirit and the gift of the Holy Spirit. So when the Holy Spirit could be in someone like John and working through in the Old Testament, because the Holy Spirit was, I mean, the Holy Spirit is the third member of the Trinity.

It's not like he just sat out until Pentecost. Yeah, he was actually hovering over the waters at creation. He was present the entire time. The big difference of what happens at Pentecost and really what Jesus is inaugurating here through his baptism, the baptism of the spirit, is the one that he talks about. out an Acts 2, that if you repent and be baptized, you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. That's a different thing. That is the Holy Spirit moving in and taking up residence in the believer, which is why it's connected with this temple language. That's the first Corinthians 6,

that your body's a temple of the Holy Spirit. So that is not separate from salvation. Because Paul says in Romans 8 that if you do not have the Spirit of Christ, and that's a capital S, So he's talking about the Holy Spirit. He said, you're not connected with Christ. Oh, this is so good. I asked y'all, we agree. I had the same opinion, and I knew that's what y'all were going to say, and I agree 100%. But I just wanted to do it in that format.

But I want to say something, because even though we're talking about John the Baptist, and we've now gone down a rabbit hole. But I think it's a good rabbit hole. This is actually another rabbit hole from your. You're a rabbit hole. We're in a rabbit hole of the rabbit hole of the rabbit hole. But this is like that Leonardo of the Caprio movie. What's it called Inception? I'm starting to question what's the real? I want to say this. We're in the Matrix, guys. I want to say this because I really think this is profound when he said, when he said, I baptize you with water, but he'll baptize you with the Holy Spirit. That's John the Baptist saying that. Well, I've gone to Luke 1 and showed you already that it wasn't just some ram. Random guy.

You know, oh, there's some wilderness guy that, you know, had camel hair and ate locusts dipped in honey. I know it doesn't say that, but I'm just telling you, I tried to eat a locust one time. That was one of the most disgusting things I've ever tried to eat. So what you're saying is you need a good sauce. That's what you're saying. Well, he ate honey also, and I thought, you know what? After I tried the locust, I'm pretty sure John the Baptist dipped it in honey. It was honey-depped locusts.

It lost in translations. It made me gag and sin as much as I've thrown up in the last two days. I don't want to talk about that anymore. But I want to say this. Do you know that John used a Greek word, if I can pronounce it, that is found nowhere else in relation to the Holy Spirit? Did you know that? No. Here in John 7.

Oh, I will give you the verses. We're going to read them. John or John the Baptist? John. Okay, the Apostle John. The Apostle John. Now, when he uses that he'll be baptized, John baptized, John baptized by water, but Jesus will baptize you with the Spirit. That is the normal word, wind, you know, translated wind, fire of the spirit.

So Holy, you got holy is a Greek word. and then spirit, so you put them together, you got something. But there is an unusual word that's only used by John, John the writer of John, that is called Paracletus. Yeah, Paracletus. So there are, one, two, three, four, five references. So the first one is John 14, 16. So let's just go ahead and read that.

it's an awesome it is an awesome word it goes to what zack said there's a difference and when he introduces this idea so let's read uh 15 and 16 of john 14 if you love me you will obey what i command and i will ask the father and he will give you another now there's very different renderings of the word into english you have counselor helper comforter. I think, or, well, I'll save the other one. So let me just read you a little bit of the definition of this. So is that paraclete is right there?

That's paraclete counselor. Okay. Mine says, counselor. I don't know what the updated. What does your say, Zach? Does yours say, counselor? John 14. John 14, 16.

We're having a Bible study here. Well, I got like, four tabs open right now. Yeah, let me see what. Chasing rabbits with you boys. Mine says helper. All right. Well, I covered that.

But look, I love the definition of this. It's someone who has called to aid, support, or intercede on behalf of another. I mean, that's the idea, right? Yeah. An advocate, intercessor. That was the other one, advocate. A consoler, comforter, helper. Well, it's only used here in Don't you find that fascinating?

And John, like, I mean, when he said he'll baptize you with the Spirit, well, this is what you get. Verse 16, he will give you, look, not only will he give you another counselor, he'll be with you forever. Now, that's quite a statement. Not just, oh, for a time, he will be with you forever. That word, wait a minute, I'm going to get something that's going to be with forever. Does that mean I'm going to be here forever?

I wouldn't think. I mean, that's why I'm saying when he said he'll baptize you with the spirit, John was just getting started on what the implications of that was. Then it says, okay, where's the next one? Because I'm getting bogged down here.

John, I'm doing this on my phone. 1426. When the helper comes, who I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of Truth, who proceeds from the father, he will bear witness about me. True, but I want to say this. That was right after verse 23, because we're just skipping randomly through this,

which 23 said, if anyone loves me, he'll obey my teaching. My father will love him, and he will come, and we will come to him and make our home with him. And so 25, he uses this paraclete again, all this I have spoken while still with you, but the counselor, there's the parakely, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will sin in my name will teach you. So what is the idea here? We're talking about making a home. He'll be in you.

All right, so next one is 1526. I feel like we've gone this far. We need to read all of them. 1526. Remember this is after the dissertation about the world. We're in a world, but the world doesn't. They're not going to like you. if you follow me because they didn't like me.

And so then he's introducing the idea of you're not of this world. There's going to be a world within a world. And now you're starting to see that you have a world with humans, and then you have a world of humans in Christ who have this counselor, this guide, advocate, helper, who's going to be there forever in you. And so when you get into this heaven and earth coming back together in some form, Now you're starting to see how this is taking shape by introducing this counselor. So 26 is when the counselor comes whom I will send to you from the Father,

the Spirit of Truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me. Well, no wonder we're talking about Jesus all the time. Yeah. Okay. And I'm really excited about this. And you must, you also must testify for you. have been with me from the beginning.

So then when you get to John 17 and that prayer all of a sudden you get our inclusion. But the next one is John 16, 7. But I tell you the truth. It is for your good that I am going away unless I go away. The counselor, the paracletus, the helper of the God, will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. When he comes, look, he will convict the world of guilt. regard to sin and righteousness and judgment in regard to sin because men do not believe in me

in regard to righteousness because I am going to the father where you can see me no longer and in regard to judgment because the prince of this world now stands condemned. You're like, I have that in my body? And if you think about what he's saying there too, like why is it? He says, Jesus is saying, it is good that I leave. because it's not fully complete yet in you until he comes to live in you. And it makes a little bit more sense when you think about it that way with this argument in verse 10 where he says concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father and you will no longer see me.

Like, what does that mean? And I think what that means is it's easy to do the right thing if Jesus is sitting right next to me. Right. I mean, I got the Son of God right next to me. Like, I'm going to do the right thing when it comes to righteousness because I've got the Son of God with me. but he said, I'm leaving, and I'm going to go to the father, and you're not going to be able to see me any longer. Or the spirit is going to come in, though, which you already referenced that verse, where he's going to make his home in human bodies now. So now, you know, Jesus was incarnate. The son was incarnate in Jesus, meaning that he could be in one physical place at one time.

But when the spirit comes, he can be in the bodies of all believers throughout the entire world throughout all time. So now when you think about the proximity of my presence with God, like it's not a, I don't go into a temple anymore, a place. And I got to come back at like Moses did. He had to go in, you know, he'd meet with God. He'd come out, go back and meet with God. That's kind of the whole point of the spirit is no, no, no. He's going to be with you always.

Now he is living in you. He's taken at residence forever. Forever in the body of humans. It tells you, Zach, the two key components of why the ascension had to happen. One was that, just that. That's when the Holy Spirit would come and make it purse on each and every one of us. And the second thing was to show that human beings could then be in both realms and function because we could be in the presence of God.

So you got both of us. C.L, you're tracking. Your mind went there and I haven't even. Look, I said all that. I missed the pre-meeting. I missed the pre-meeting. meeting and I'm there. There's one thing left.

There's one verse reference left. And if you read the whole book of John, you're not going to find it. I said there was five. I only read you four. Where's the fifth? So without cheating and looking up the Greek, without cheating.

I'm going to sit in the book of Revelation. I'm saying it's John 17 somewhere. He said what in the book of John? No, no. Stop in the book of John. Al, you got to pay attention to play the game. So, and it's, look, this, all that's exciting because I saw y'all just bursting with exciting.

As I was reading every word, I was like, boy, John, when he's talked about Jesus and baptizing with the Holy Spirit, he was fixing to lay down a showstopper in what that means to humans. And he used this Greek word that is not used anywhere else in the Bible. And just to make it complete, the last. time he used it is actually in 1st John. And I'm going to read it. And you're going to say, wait, what?

1 John 2 and verse 1. My dear children, now the only reason I'm not reading the first chapter of 1st John is we're going to study 1st John after this. Because if I start reading this, we will have to do seven podcasts to get how excited I am about what he's talked about in the first chapter of first john before he got to this phrase because it made everything make sense and click once i read this what was the first john what first john two one you might want to if you underline in your bible you might want to underline this one because look what he does here and this is a mind bender first john two one says i my dear children i write this to you so that you will not sin but if anybody

does sin, we have one who speaks to the father in our defense. Well, that word, let me see what the current NOV version is. We have an advocate with the father. Well, that's a better translation. Before I throw the NIV under the bus again, I want to read. The new NIV. ESF says, you see that word advocate? Yeah.

Oh, well, you know what? They made the change in the new NOV. So let me read it here. My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin, but if anybody does sin, we have an advocate of Periclesis with the Father. Jesus Christ, the righteous one. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins and not only for ours, but also for the sins of the world.

So, Al, when you naturally or spiritually went there when you said it also makes Jesus his ascension makes sense. Well, it does because it shows that connection. That's why I read that about Jesus being the ladder, and you're going to see the angels ascending and descending. That's why he also said, when I'm lifted up, I will draw them into myself. That's why he said in John 3, John 3, you said,

what does that have to do with the ascension? You remember when he said, I'll read it. Well, let me read the new one. in John 3 he says where is that at right after he talks about being born again

and he says I think it's verse 12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things no one has ever gone into

heaven except the one who came from heaven the son of man and you're like what what's he talking about because he's looking at him becoming human. Yeah. Doing what he did and then making the presence of God in the heavenly realms available for humans

by being the first human to enter that portal on our behalf. So when you think about it, he gives us the spirit, this pericles, and we then, what do we do? We testify about it. We represent him. Well, then John takes that same word. and it's like, well, he's representing us there. I know you're struggling with sin here, but you have God's spirit

and you have his son at the right hand of God making that presence available for human beings, and he is performing that today, which gets you to realize when people say, what is Jesus doing now? He's doing spectacular things in the heavenly presence for us, and he's doing spectacular things on earth through his spirit,

Paraclitus that's in us. So just to remember the word here, I came up with a catchy team because I know we're running out of time. So you have a world within a world. You have spirit-filled people in the world. So we're all created by God, and we all talk a lot, most of us.

You know, we're, in essence, parakeets. The thing about when you walk by a parakeet, they, but they don't, what are they, it's a bunch of nonsense. But there are those. Those who are paraclitus, who have the Holy Spirit of God, when they're talking, they're speaking the word of truth. So it's a good way to remember it. I didn't read that out of a book.

It just comes on the top of my head. But it makes a great shirt. Be a paraclete instead of a parakeet. That's good. Well, I think that when you think about the significance then of this baptism of Jesus, the baptism of the Holy Spirit, hopefully what this will do, because there are people in our audience, because I know they've responded to me in other formats that believe that the baptism of the Holy Spirit means that when you speak in tongues, and I'm like, no, that is not what the baptism.

That is not what the baptism of the Holy Spirit is. Well, to your point, if that was true, then how come John wasn't baptized in the Holy Spirit at birth? And that was the point I was going to make. I know we're out of time because we did not finish this because I was going to make a point. The whole reason I even went down this rabbit hole is because I was perplexed on why John didn't get it. Remember when Jesus came to baptize him? Yeah. I mean, to be baptized by him.

He's like, well, wait a minute now. I need, you need to baptize me. I can't baptize you. It's like two views. You have John's view. Then you have Jesus's view. Remember when he was in prison? He was like, hey, somebody.

somebody go, go ask Jesus if he's the one. Yeah, we sure this is the one. Well, wait a minute. I thought that was your whole job, John. What seems to be the problem? And I have concluded what Zach mentioned earlier, that even though he was chosen by God, like a lot of people in the Old Testament,

and ultimately it was Zach Brown and Elizabeth, there was still, in the same thing when Jesus said, John the Baptist is the greatest person ever born of a man. However, if you're in the kingdom, you're greater than him. And I think it's a reference to having this pericletus inside you as this counselor. Well, that's the point. I think the point is this. NTRI, DeBar from him again, said that the point of the Gospels, the four Gospels, Matthew, Martin, Luke, and John is it's the story of how God became king.

And so when you start to think about it in that context, what's happening here is this is the four gospels, this is the, the inauguration. He's coming. The king is coming. The kingdom is coming. I mean, Mark says that, I mean, he defines the gospel as the coming of the kingdom in Mark 118. Well, I'm getting to that next, but maybe we should suspend this and pick this up. Are we out of time? We're way out of time. We're over. Because I never got through the Luke 1. I need to finish Luke 1 next time. And then we're going to get into exactly what you're talking about, the kingdom of heaven. Yeah, it's all coming. All right, so we'll pick it up here next time we get back in the book of John on Unashamed.

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