Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 106 | Phil Robertson vs. the Damming Evidence and a Culture That Forgot Jesus

Episode Date: June 24, 2020

Phil may not be a ninja, but he knows what it takes to win a fight against the local beavers: It's time for Operation Mother of All Commode Flushes. Phil's dangerous plan from episode 101 gets a reboot, and Phil tells Jase and Al why their advice on beaver dam removal leaves something to be desired. Jase brings up a question about who gets saved and explains why Jesus is so loved and so hated. And Phil looks at our culture and doesn't find a whole lot of Jesus, especially in the schools. See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX   See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1   To take a FREE 30 Day Trial of Phil's TV show and the rest of BlazeTV: https://www.BlazeTV.com/Phil - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So we talked about on the podcast prior about the mother of all commode flushes. Well, the last time I heard, you were going to get a trachgo. First you had to get a sap. Make a tree. Pick a tree like people go hunt for Christmas trees. I'm looking for a tree to use it as a plunger.

With the right prompt, remember it had to have the right. prongs. That's why I got plunger. And you're basically, so what did y'all do? Well, y'all's problem is your idea of what needed to be done is coming from a couple of yuppie bucks that live in the subdivision. You don't want to take subdivision yuppie type, you know, me and with some wealth, you don't want to take their advice when it comes to Beaver Dam removal and then the rotor ruddering large pipes. The pipe under consideration here is a 48-inch pipe.

That's four feet. Four feet, it's a pretty good size pipe. If you got up in front of that when you break the beavers pile mud in there because with the water ebb and flow back during duck season, I just raised my plate up. that shuts that water off.

Right. Four foot plate. I raised it up. I said, because the water was coming in from the river. So I didn't want to flood the duck cold too much and we have too much water. So I opened that plate up where water would just come in and I said, I'll just leave it open to the spring. Well, the water got 20 feet deep there. Yeah.

Well, how did the beavers put the mud there when it was 20 foot deep? That don't make sense. A beaver would know the answer to that question that Mr. Subdivision to come up with. So you're like, the beavers did it. And unbeknown to me, they piled a huge, I'd say, maybe a ton of earth mixed with logs at the front of that pipe. and up in there for about five or six feet, it was solid, just debris, beavers.

That's what they do for a living day. They came here. They got flat tails and teeth that gnaw down trees. That's why I've always said saltwater didn't make that thing at all. But anyway, they plugged it. I went down and looked at it. Well, what happened to the traco plunger? Because I said to myself, there's so much work involved if you have a hand rake,

A potato rake. It just got four claws on it that go down. That's how you normally get them out? Well, yeah. When you're not bad. 12 inch pipe, you can rake off. Well, you could have done what I said, which is blow it up and start over. No, you blow up your pipe then.

You get in it. They sell pipe. Good idea, Mr. Subdivision. Yeah, but when you're talking 48 inches long and about 40 feet long, 48 inch hole, you're like, you're talking money now. This is the selling the bowl of soup for the birthday. That's right. You get to watch a spectacular show, which is the admission.

As it turns out, every time there's infrastructure at stake here, which is what we're discussing, I'm the one to put all right in there. I agree. I'm not an engineer, but I did work it out to where I'd put water on the hole and water off the hole. But anyway, I'll walk a fair and look at it, and I said, one way to do this quickly without any danger of a man being sucked up into that. once that dirt leaves and the water on the lower side is like three feet lower. Well, three feet of water is a powerful thing. Because when that thing starts to flow, it is the mother of all commode flushes. And Dan, Dan has been in danger before.

But you have a ninja. I've seen this guy crawl on a wall. I'm not a ninja, but I got the rake and I went down there and I got around it And I began to remove that stuff, the mud. And I worked on it about an hour. So I'm 74 years old, but I'm taking mud out there until I get a flow. And I noticed little curls in the water, meaning water is leaving. So I said, hmm, I have a flow.

Exit the building. But it's still a lot of mud there. I said, if I wait, the river now on the downside is a foot lower. I'll wait to the river keeps falling on the downside of the pike. to where I have two to three feet. I said because that puts more pressure on that dirt if the lower side, see, you got water level like this. You got a pipe in the middle.

When it's the same level, there is no current. Basically just... When the river starts falling, the dark water starts coming out. But anyway, I go up there with the right. You're creating a natural suction. Yes. Pressure. Pressure.

The only problem is you don't want to be on the front side anywhere near the opening of the pipe because when that water starts to when it busts loose it does it in a you've got about five seconds from it's broke

the water's going through the pipe you got five seconds to get out of that front because you will be like a missile in with the debris you will be caught up in that and you'll have a wild ride for 40 feet you'll live but it's going to push you out of it.

If you got to make yourself. You don't want to tumble. I told Dan just hold your arms straight out. Pray and just you'll be like a missile fall in the mood. It's like the old cannon to shoot the guy out of the cannon. It's like a Beaver Damn washing machine. I saw the guy on television that got sucked up into a two-foot pipe. And he lived, but he went a covert.

So someone else tried what you're doing? Oh, yeah. He was trying to get it off his yard. Well, that two-foot pipe, when he broke all that debris, all that stuff in a subdivision, by the way. See? He went feet first. So he's feet first going 30 to 40 feet and the water's blowing him like a missile. But now he was severely scarred up by the time he got to the end of it.

You figure you got four feet, you got twice as much room. If you're only as you make yourself four feet on the initial blasts. And when you go out the other end, I'll be down there with throw your rope. But so Dan is down there and I said, Dan, once you hear that thing break, you start seeing that current start. I said, get out of there. So I sent Stone and Dan. I figured, instead of me, I said, well, you boys, I told them. They're expendable.

Before they got down there, I said, boys, y'all are what you call expendable. I said, so do the deal. How did they take that? Well, they looked at each other and then they looked back at me. He said, what's that word? I said, expendable. I said, you'll live, but it'll be tough ride. So he gets down there with a thing.

Dan's working on it, and he's going, he said, I got my drag way up in the pipe. I said, do you feel the current bill? And he said, it's getting more all the time. I said, be careful now because it's fixed to go. Well, he goes up in there and no more had that out of my mouth. I heard something. And Dan and Dan and Stone were saying, give back, give that. I heard fast talking.

Well, one goes out one side and one the other to get back up on the levee. And when that thing broke loose, what I saw coming out of the end of that pipe, it was just logs and mud just turning, churning like a Mississippi River. Oh, no, it was like a waterfall on the ground. So anyway, that thing starts there up on the back. We're all looking at it. And they were all like, good night. I said, you don't want to be part of that flow now.

But, you know, I have a 48-inch stream of water on a round pipe. Thank you. It's just blowing. So we are, we pulled it off one more time. So I had a juke pole ready with a track hole and it had claws on the little end, the pole. But you didn't need that. I didn't like that idea. Well, I had claws on it and I knossed it with a chainsaw on the big end.

So you put the big end over here and guide your pipe up in there and get a track hole. and start pulling like that and I as a rotor, rooter, hooked to a trach hole, a big long, bit of pecan tree is about like that.

But you didn't, I didn't like that idea. It was all dangerous, but I mean, you know, that would have been in one way the safest way. Let the track hole

be sitting on top of the hill. No, I don't agree with that. Swinging a log around. That's why you weren't there. Is that why he didn't get the call? He didn't get the call. Mr. Because you're talking about engineering.

There's an engineer. I'm talking safety. You said that's the safest way. You know, they said, oh, what you ought to do? I said, how far did you go in school and everything? Well, I'll graduate in high school. I said, that's not high enough up. You got to be.

See, Dad graduated from Louisiana Tech University, which is a very good engineering school. So I guess there must have been a class back in the 60s. My major was not engineering, but I ran around enough engineers to get a little input from time to time. The bottom line is, boys, I'm taking care of the water. Water control is working like a charm right now. You have intellect. You have street smart. Then you have Jesus smart, which is the ultimate education.

Well, that covers you in case the whole thing goes south. My point is, this reminds me of the time that they sunk the boat. I think we told the story here. And I was the only one who was dry, despite all these great minds of engineering on how to make an ice hole before daylight using boats. My boat was dry, and I was the only one in it. There's sunk. So your deal is avoidance.

I just want to. We had too many men in the boat. I was turning too short of circles. When the boat sunk, I was the only one who knew how deep the water was. I knew the water would be just below the top of my waiters. I said, I'll just rowed down with the ship, right? I was barking orders, but the boat was sinking. Everybody's trying to size grabbing all the weapons, because we're going to.

with duck hunting here. It's before daylight. It's dark. And I'm just riding the boat down. And I knew where I deeped the water was. It was not over my head. But they didn't know that. So they're flowning.

But Jay was with me. He bailed out because Phil said, y'all help us. I gave them a bit of good advice. I said, stand up. I knew the boat was sinking. I belayed that order.

But the reason I'm telling this is the street smart. I knew it wasn't. Nobody was going to drown. And then they could stand. They'd figure that part out. So I also knew. and also knew there was nothing I could do.

But I'm just saying from a safety issue, I thought somebody has, because it's really cold, you know, somebody's got to be, you know, the survivor to offer help an attempt. Or just to report what happened here. It was not that big a deal. Stone asked Jay, you're going to help him because it was all in water. And Jay said, no. He said, it'd be all right. He jumped and said, are you coming?

The boat goes down. Before it goes down, I step out of the boat in my waiters. I've got about three inches of freeboard. So you didn't get wet. So look, and the old mud motor, the motor was, the boat sunk, but the motor was still not quite sunk, about halfway up on it. So I'm holding the boat up a little bit. I said, give me some help, and let's get this boat moved over here.

But that didn't work as well. It's too heavy. We went over on the lawn. The motor went under the water. Well, but it didn't go over the air breather. So I knew we didn't have water in the motor. We crank it when we get the boat bailed out. The story's getting fired.

We bailed it out. Somebody come up with an old plastic. deal and we bailed it out, got back in the boat and was in the blind, we set our decors out. Everybody's wet, but me and Jase. I didn't get wet and the boat's sinking, but everybody else got wet. Well, what? It was cold. That story's taking a turn.

I think everybody was wet, but me. I didn't, I wasn't there. I was damp. So I only heard the story. But I thought it was funny because when something happens of a big proportion like this in a hunting or whatever. So we got to assess whose fault it was pretty quickly. That's usually what we do in the duck.

We miss a bunch of ducks. We got to figure out who screwed up. I had too many men in the boat and I was cutting too short. It was taken on the water every time. But the line I heard you first that was is you looked up at that the boys in the front. You said, too many honey buns, too many honey buns. Heavy. We got some heavy hunters.

I was watching the robust men and they were moving the slowest. And I said, yeah, that honeybond crowd. When that was happening. It's not good for a honeybunds crowd. I wasn't there. I wasn't there. My point was when I saw what was happening, I thought this is a bad idea. And I'm saying when I heard you talking about cutting a tree and using it as a plunger, I had the same feeling.

I thought this is a bad. Rota Router. Router. A homemade rotor-ruder. No, it worked. It would have worked. I'm not saying it wouldn't work. I just don't like the plan.

I thought it was too dangerous. My plan yesterday evening, and I told them, I said, listen, if we can get this water flowing through that pipe without getting the traco and the log and the roter router. I said, it saved us a lot of time. I said, so I got water coming out of it down there, Dan. I said, go up in there. He's Mr. Muscleman. He's on the bars. I mean, listen, this dude is solid muscle. You need a man like that. I said, get down there because I knew he had sustained muscle power. Well, he's with that rake. And I said, we make and do this without having the trache hole, red bringing it down, and we rode a root. I like your compromise. I think it was a good idea. Dan broke it loose and the water took off and he managed to not be a projector because i'm not opposed to danger i mean

the most fun i've had always has an element of danger i mean that's what makes it fun by the way i don't mind that i just don't like somebody because i don't like an operator swinging a tree around trying to unplug i'd rather just blow it down swinging it around well but you're basing it on the operator i've seen who you have operating the equipment? I trust Jimmy Redd with my life. And you did. And there we agree to disagree. I don't get anywhere near someone who said, yeah, I can, I can do that. What school did you go to? The school of hard knocks. Yeah. Yeah. You ain't been knocked enough. I'm telling you. I mean, the bottom line was, by the way, when we do something like that, and now I've got to, you say, well, what keeps the beavers from just plugging this up?

Nothing. Here's what a lot of, oh, yeah. Well, I've got an idea about that. Now, you just said it. Do you hear what he said? He's not on the same thing. He said, you've been down there. He said, you can't keep them.

You can do nothing. Here's what you got to remember about beavers and flow of water. Everything is the speed at which the water's flowing. There's a certain speed that they won't attempt. Bevers will not attempt it. Because what happens is if they go up there at the mouth of that pipe, then they're going through it. They're going on a while.

I got, it's too swift. But I've, through watching, I don't know what the, I haven't measured it with some kind of micrometer or whatever. I hadn't measured it, but the speed at which that water is going through that pipe determines whether Beaver will stop it up. Right now, they won't even attempt it. I think that's common. But when that current slows down and it begins to be half a pipe, got me? Yeah. When it gets down to a half.

Then they're coming back. Here they come back because they say, now we'll let the current. help us and that'll bring the debris and we'll start packing and they'll put one log this way and one this way. I think we agree with that. They'll get debris and finally they got mud and now you got a thousand pounds of dirt back in that. The velocity of the water.

That's a key element of the beavers. Let's take a quick. Don't forget that, Jay. Let's take quick break. So that was Beaver 101, Mr. Subdivision. I agree, but I have a thought that, look, that that's common sense. But you've been fighting the beavers for, what, 30 years down there? So I have an idea that you...

And here lately, all Jason's been doing is sitting in front of that computer screen watching the stock market. You don't want his advice about beaver damn removal. No, I have an idea. But he's got an idea. I have an idea. He's been faking of it. You know, watch the talk market up too.

Well, he'd listen to him. But what are the beavers doing? Don't talk to him. Since you've challenged my intellect, I have an idea. Oh, my goodness. For 30 years, you've been fighting the beavers. And you said, I figured out how they won't redo the dam. Well, get the power of the water.

I'm winning. I have the way to beat them. Winning. You ready? I have the idea. I haven't told you this. Here's what you do. After the water goes down, because you've won this little battle.

But the war, no, because it happens everywhere. I've won all the battles. Here's what I think you should do. I've never figured out how to correctly handle them. I got it. What I think you should do is once the water goes down, get the traco down there. Yep. And you dig a graveyard in front of that pipe.

And here's my thinking. You dig it as deep as the traco will go in all points around that pipe. Because I got to thinking they can't rebuild it if they got to have their feet. They get their feet up there on the ground. I've already done that. Well, it wasn't deep enough. Well. Go deeper.

What I'm saying is you say, how long did it take them to get the big hole that you gouts out in front of it? How long did it take them to fill that back in with mud and debris? Three years. I dug such a hole that it took them three years to get it back up level with a pipe, then it began to stop the pipe up. I've already done that. But you say, it works for a year or two or three. Well, let's do it again. But you get 10 beavers and they want to damn it up, the Almighty put in their psyche if it flows dam it up.

I mean, the guy from the province of Alberta, he said, Mr. Robson, if you want to really get in the middle of nowhere, he said, I'm within about an hour and a half of the largest animal-made structure on the planet. It can be seen from outer space. It's a beaver dam, a mile and a half long, and out there in the middle, it's 10 or 12 feet high. You can see it from outer space. I know I saw that. So when you talk about beavers and their power, it is a lot of. amazing how much earth beavers can move. Because

in a sense you're really, you're battling something the Almighty put in there. It's really, how would you ever truly win it? I mean, they're just going to keep coming down. If you take a varmets that can cut trees down with their teeth, you're like, what? And move big, like a

weird sci-fi movie. They should have a movie about somebody should have done a killer beaver. They can't lift logs like humans can with equipment or whatever. So you say, well, how do they do it? They wait to the velocity of the current is at the peak. And then they just nudge them. They just nudge them. And look, the current is, they know the current account. So they're tutboat captains on top of everything else. They're thinking. Listen, I've been at war

with these beavers for 30 years. If we could just get somebody on the inside where we could know what they're thinking. In our culture, when them old guys moved westward when they settled the country and they said, we're after beavers, beaver hide, French Explore. and trappers. That's what who found of the country. When they went out west the beavers weren't down here in the southern park. They stocked them in here. But now whoever

pulled that stunt off should have never done that because now they are nationwide and they are a bone to be chew. Ask the highway department in any state. Do you all have any problems with the beavers and let them get back where they're spending they've killed millions

of acres of timber. They've cost millions of man made hours to get all around Monroe, Westmore, small towns. I mean, to keep their water flowing out of the city and to the river, the river's full of them. I mean, look, they have really, it's

a problem. Somebody told us the gators you don't want to kill them all because, you know, a beaver, I see them swim by a lot of them. I don't shoot them. But if they're in there around that pipe, and if I want to get the water out of there, I'd take a little pot shot from time of time. I said, well, the only thing I know to do, they have

traps, you catch them in and all that. But they're a bone to be chewed. I'm trying to live in harmony with them. And I've had several conferences with them. I'm going to get them to shut it down. But they will not listen. If we only had an ambassador, a beaver ambassador, somebody we could send in there to the camp, they could speak on our behalf and say, look, we'll tell you where you can stop them.

You can train them. You can train a dog. You know, you could just train the bee. Alligators and men are their only predator. But that's why I think this influx. Big gators will take beaver and just one. But now we have. We have an influx of gators. We do have gators.

So I'm thinking that's a positive. There's gators there. So maybe they'll help balance out. I'm hoping they will. The scheme. I just don't like getting in a duck blind before daylight. A beaver being there is one thing. A gator is another.

Well, Dan's down there at the mouth of the pipe, you know, and here comes a 10-foot alligator. And, you know, and you say local man swallowed by large gator, but you don't want that. No. No. I'm saying it ingest. He's expendable. I don't want a gator to get him. No.

Or a ride through a pipe. Yeah. He doesn't hunt. He doesn't duck hunt, Dan, doesn't he strictly for labor. You know, the infrastructure of the duck home. He likes doing dangerous things that you come up with. Well, because his, I don't know, his Twitter or something is Ninja Dan. So he's a self-proclaimed ninja, which means you would have to put yourself through some rigorous

challenges from time to time to maintain your ninjahood. He's the perfect man that came along, and I'm going to. into my mid-70s, but I was down there yesterday because they did that one. Well, all the pipes, the rest of the pipes that's holding the duck water, we're talking hundreds of acres here. Right. So when I get the water flowing, I go up on the middle levee jays. I have to get those two unstopped.

I go to size levee. There, I have to get that one unstop. Because once you get the bottom pipe draining, Al, I've got a rotor-rooter all the pipes. That's why I'm saying. I think we need to dig deeper holes, which I don't like it because if you fall off in it, now you're in a, you know, you're back to off. A famous Bible verse, but I don't know of any other way. I can't get around down to the front of it and work with it as easy when the big holes there. But I did tell Red, three years ago, I said, dig me a big hole there, sort of take them a while to build it back in there.

They're moving. Because they got to have their feet. At each pipe, there's probably a ton, 2,000 pounds of dirt and mud and logs. on each one of these pipe openings. Well, you just think about it, a ton of dirt, and you're going to go down there with a rake about that wide with a five-wood handle on it? I mean, if you're going to do it by hand, it's just a problem.

As large as our podcast audience is, I'm sure somebody's going to have an idea for it. So I look forward to. Let's get on something spiritual. Well, I'm trying to. Let's take that. If I wonder what I'm doing is 74 years old during a pandemic, what do you do?

I said, what do I said, the word is beavers, beaver. Let's take a break and then we'll dive in. One thought I had was, you know, in the last couple days we get a lot of comments. I've had a lot of discussions about John 6 and 7 that we've been talking about. And a guy had a pretty good question. And he read this John 639 to him and it says, you remember, it kind of got weird in John 6th when Jesus said, you know, I am the bread of life. that was in verse 35 he who comes to me will never go hungry and he who believes me will never be thirsty and so i think at that time the people stand there were like do what now is this

cannibalism or but then he made another interesting comment of course jesus was trying to portray the heavenly versus the earthly that was the whole context of what was happening. Would you agree? Yes, because he had just fed them, the bread and the fish, and basically they're showing back up for the next meal. Which you have to have to survive. You need it.

And so they were like, well, we're here for our daily feeding because now we're building an army that wants to be fed miraculously every day. And so that was the point. So this discussion I had came from 39 of chapter 6 where it says, and this is the will of him who sent me that I shall lose none of all that he has given me but raise them up at the last day. And he was asking about that because a lot of people believe that's a spiritual thing in that there's only, you know, a few that are saved and none of them will be lost. and so this guy had had some really good ideas and points about this.

And we get that question a lot, Jay, for people about, yeah. I'm not sure how to characterize. We'll just explain the difference between, because we quoted out Hebrews 5 about those who have by constant use, used the scriptures as food. He, solid food. So you have spiritual food, solid food is for the mature, and you start talking about Jesus, the bread of life and all that. you have a spiritual feeding and you have physical feeding.

Both of them are constants, meaning you're not going to live without physical food. Your body will shrivel up and you will die of starvation. Well, then you have spiritual food and there is a big difference. But a man who has figured out both will understand solid foods for the mature who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good and evil. Jesus is saying, you feed on me. He's saying the qualities that I possess that I'm showing you, I'm the perfect man. Perfect God, perfect man.

You need to feed on me. Whatever I do, however I respond. Whatever I say. Put that into practice. You're exhibiting spiritual food and you'll live forever if you'll feed on me. Well, I think in this case he was talking about conquering. You think about what Jesus did. Jesus conquered the world and he didn't lose a man in a battle.

You just think about that. In fact, he actually died, but there was no war. You know, when you think about a king or someone taking over. Which is what they were driving him to. Well, right. Here they are saying, oh, he has special powers. we remember they were going to make him king by force and we'll just take over the world because this guy Satan never had his boot on the neck of Jesus because three days after he died

whoops he's standing back up again you're like whoa but he took over the world in a non-physical military way and so I think this is what he meant because let me just read these couple of verses The next verse, verse 40, it says, for my father's will is that everyone who looks to the son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. Now let me just read you another thing. So you get to chapter 7, after all this happens, after the miracle, you know, how are people responding? And it says, after this, Jesus went around in Galilee, verse 1, purposely staying away from, Judea because the Jews there were waiting to take his life. So now, there's a couple of things there I want to say about this.

Number one is if someone has the miraculous, if you've seen or heard of a miracle, I'm not sure why they didn't put two and two together. And what I mean is kind of like Abraham. Remember when he said, you know, sacrifice your son? Reason to the resurrection. He reasoned to the resurrect. He's like, well, wait a minute here. this guy or this being has you know if i saw a miracle if you start thinking what the potential is

well one of the potentials if you have the power to manipulate atoms and molecules then that means there's a possibility that you can beat death now their mind didn't go there you got to remember if you're on row 30 outdoors and you're on row 30 it would have to been it would have had to been some type of I'm just saying rolls. There's 5,000 men there. Here comes the grub. Well, if you're back there on roll 30 and the fish come by and the bread, you're not seeing the source of it.

It's just coming out of him. But he's flowing down. He's down on the side of the hill and all this food is flowing out of him. But you're not putting it together. Where does this food come from? That's what I'm saying. I'm sure everybody's looking up there. You're hungry.

Yeah, I'm eating. I mean, here comes the fish and bread. humans being humans, it's like you can folks when they come, they start digging in, and you're like, whoa, ease now, let me offer a prayer for the other. Well, right. Y'all, y'all. And so, but they're a threat. So Roe 30 does not realize that the source of the food, this is a miracle.

They're not aware of it. I mean, how could you tell? That's my point. Well, right. So they're somewhat in the dark about the miracle, Jason, what my point is. Yeah, and I agree. But they were wanting to kill him. And so he says in verse 6 of chapter 7,

Jesus told him the right time for me has not yet come. I think this is funny, this next part, because he says, now I think he meant by his death because he was staying away, you know, not because he was scared, because obviously he proved that later. He wasn't scared to die. Look, he had to show him, Jace, the reason the time was not right. He had to show him how to live before he gets to,

and this is the way you die and come back from the dead. Hang on, let's take a break. And another thing, Dad, is that's- I agree. That's true. And before you make your point, Joe, there were also things he had to do to fulfill prophecy that hadn't happened yet. I was going to say that, which is where I'm going with this.

But then he made a little joke here. He said, for you, anytime is right. It's kind of funny. Well, it is funny. And think about it, because one minute you want to make me king, next minute, other people up here want to kill. me you talk about mob rule but he's like oh it's not time for me to die for you anytime however there was a loom in prophecy and you say what well if you turn to john 18 when he was arrested

when jesus was arrested listen i think this is really interesting and i my buddy put this on me i hadn't made this uh parallel but it says uh they you know here comes judas he betrays him uh when jesus said i am he this verse 6 of 18 they drew back fell to the ground. Weird. Again, he asked him, who is it you want? They said, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus said, I told you that I am he. If you're looking for me, then let these men go.

Well, these are his, you know, disciples, his followers. This happened so that the words he had spoken would be fulfilled. And here in quotes, which is a quote from earlier in John 6, 139. I have not lost one of those you gave me, which goes back to that what he said here, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me. So I really think that this situation, now we're going to the deep water here, was in reference to him becoming king through his death and resurrection, and not losing any of his followers in a battle.

Because when you think about it, he actually lost them all after this as far as through death, but not really because his death, barrel, and resurrection then came the outpoint of the Holy Spirit, which then his disciples surrendered to. So then when they had the martyr's death, he didn't lose any of them because they're all indestructible now because of what happened with the death, barrel, and resurrection of Jesus. I really think that's what it's talking about. not a theology that eliminates half the or three quarters of the population, because he said this phrase.

You see, I mean, now a lot of people may not even know what that is, but I think that's what that specific verse, which we try to stay out of the weeds on this podcast, but I think there's been so many questions on what did he mean by that? Yeah, there's some stuff out there. And also, another thing you had to do, Jace, was he still had to, you know, there were other prophecies. There was the one where he would come in on a donkey or a foal of a donkey and where he would, they would sing Hosanna. I mean, he wanted it to be to remind people that are looking.

It was like, oh, yeah, this is how he comes. This is the Messiah. This is him. Well, how's the number? And they knew Zachary. What's the number? There's somebody's documented. How many prophecies did he fulfill?

number the number, but every one. It was hundreds. I know that. Everyone after the other. So you're like, why is that a big deal? Because a lot of probably people that are listening don't realize that. You said, what are you mean by fulfilled prophecy? So a prophet would say something.

And then hundreds of years, even thousands? Yeah, even thousands. Here comes this person claiming to be God who fulfilled what was said. And every one of them 100% was fulfilled. Even this little statement in John 6 about not losing them. Oh, he got that in two because he didn't lose a man. And a lot of people don't understand that because they're like, well, he lost Judas. Well, nothing, nobody was lost till after Jesus did what he did.

And Judas was by his own. Which again, to the point of what you said earlier about the doctrines that get built out of this. And we've talked about Jesus before, people have a choice, which is what he said in John 640, those that look to the son and believe in him. So it is a choice you make to be a follower. And therefore you can't say, well, you don't really have a choice

because you were born to either be one or not. It's a bad way to look at this situation. Plus, he's fulfilling these texts. Now here's just one of many 700 or so years before Jesus showed up. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire. Since Isaiah 53.

Isaiah 53. He was despised and rejected by men. That's what Jace is alluding to right here. You're like, yep, a man of sorrows, familiar with suffering, like one from whom men hide their faces. He was despised, and we esteemed him not. What's amazing, to this day, the same drumbeat. There's a lot of people, when you say the word Jesus, they curl their lips at you and they

sneer and they just come at you and I mean just rip your reputation to shred. Well, I was going to bring that up. Why would you be mad at Jesus? Well, my practical application was this. If you read John 7 after he said, the right time for me has not yet come for you any time is right, The next verse says the world, this is John 7, 7, 7, the world cannot hate you. And you think, well, what did he mean by that? Well, he explains it.

It says, but it hates me because I testify that what it does is evil. Yep. Now, now. There's your why. That's it. You know what I think's interesting about this? is that really when you read everything Jesus did, he never really had these sermons,

you know, what we call hellfire and brimstone. The only one I remember, I think it's in Matthew 15 where he said out of the heart comes evil thoughts and sexual immorality, a tree bear and bad fruit. Well, I thought the sermon on the Mount. Well, they had a pretty good barn burner to the Pharisees. The woe. The woe section, woe to you.

But that's my point. You think, well, how did he testify to what is evil? Well, I think the number one thing he did was that he didn't do any evil. So he represented righteousness, which by nature, because we know he had no sin. But Jason, on the hellfire and brimstone point you made, you're a little bit shaking. I don't think so. I don't think so. Because the little statement, unless you repent, you will perish.

Well, don't worry about him who can destroy the body, but the one who can destroy both body and soul and the fires of hell. There was a little hell fire. But I'm saying there's way more positive. Like, what do you do with the Samaritan woman? What did he do? Where he got upset with the testifying the evil was usually against religious people. He did say, my yoke's easy and my burden, you know,

you put a yoke on a couple of mues, you're going to plow a field, and my burden is light. He did say, look, this is attainable and it's achievable to walk like I walk. But unless you're given time to show you how he walked through these text read reading, how would you know exactly who he was? It was amazing. Took some time to say, this is the perfect man. Here's the way you ought to roll.

And it was only three years to do it. So let's take one last break. Think about what's happened in America. And it didn't take it because I saw it. coming and didn't realize it from the 60s to now. So we've had about a 60 years, give or take a few, 50 to 60 years to run this Jesus, run him out of our school system. If you don't educate the little children and you don't tell them about Jesus, how would they ever know what the perfect man ought to look like? And you know what if you don't have some kind of semblance of

training and discipline and you see what I'm saying, teaching. Why Jay says even the virtue? You can correct. Just the virtues of Jesus, just what he, who he was. If you talk about. Well, that's Jason's point. Because if you didn't have, if you don't take the time what all the prophets said and he's showing you how you are to be.

Well, if that's missing and void, I watched it. It took 60 years, but you say, I've seen it now, speed up, looking bad now. But Jesus didn't stay at 33. So you're like 33 years, that's a short period of time to show you how. how you ought to behave. You know what's crazy? It was only three years. Look, you just think about what we've said, though.

He conquered the world without a fight that wasn't a war. He actually conquered the world in death. There was a war, but a spiritual one. Well, I mean, just he didn't lose a man. He basically, I don't think in the history of the world there's ever been a war where you won and you didn't lose one person. You're probably right. I mean, of, of, of major consequences.

cultural war now you say I've been saying it here one after the other whether people are listening I think they are based on their cards their letters and all this no they're listening but I'm just saying it looks like to me in this time our current situation jays what in the world would be wrong with people seriously contemplating why don't we just be like Jesus there wouldn't be warfare hatred between us there would be forgiven and there'd be love and there'd be patience. Because I think people would say, well, you know. I think Jesus is the most loved being in the world, but he's also the most hated.

And he just said it. He's like, you think you're hated? No, you don't know what hate is. Come, come fill my shoes. So I think in there is the problem. You have people who love him with all their heart. You have people who hate it because, now he's. He gave you the reason because their deeds are evil.

He exposes that. You know, if you turn back and read in John 3, he says the same thing when he said, this is the verdict 19. This is right after he said, for God's to love the world, gave his only son, you know, that everybody knows. The world. That's everybody. Everybody.

He loves the world. Everybody. I told you, I got into an argument one time that with a fellow who said that Jesus didn't die for everybody. And I was like, here's the problem I have with that. Let me just interrupt you. God is not like us. We decide to love.

We decide to hate. God always loves. He is love. It's not that way. I know that's hard to wrap your head around. That's why it says, doesn't say God decided to love. It said, God is love. Yeah.

He just is. So three verses later, he said, this is the verdict. I mean, it immediately takes you to a court room and you say, what about it? Here's the judge saying, this is the verdict. Light has come into the world, but men love darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. I see it every day. So that's what Jesus was saying. The reason they hate me is because I expose the evil. And I don't have to really give a servant about, no, he did on occasion. But I'm saying it was more him representing goodness and righteousness and treating people fairly.

matter what they did or their past. You remember what was the evil in the next chapter will be in John 8. The evil was that they were fixed to kill a woman and justified in the name of religion. That's right. And really just would sacrifice her to trap Jesus. At one time. Well, let me finish reading the verse then you come back. Everyone who does evil, because this is the phrase he used, this is verse 20, hates the light. That's why he said they hate me. And will not come into love, the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed and on the other side here we are whoever lives but whoever lives by the truth comes into the light so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through god i go because we only have a minute love for god and love for your neighbor

out it comes hard it's hard when the at one time we too were foolish disobedient the book of john we've been reading about these people, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy being hated and hating one another. You're like, thanks have a change to be it. But, and this is what we're discussing, and here's a good thought for today, Titus 3, by the way. But when the kindness and love of God, our Savior appeared, God and flesh standing on the earth, the book of John, we're studying.

He saved us. What's this? Not because righteous things we have done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewed by the Holy Spirit. When the kindness and love of God, our Savior appeared. And going back to Jason's point, he knew how to love. He said, you got evil deeds. All of you, all of you.

I love you so much. I love you so much. I'm going to remove your sin and raise you from the dead. All you have to do is try me. It'll work. And you look at our culture today, Al. I'm sorry to say, we forgot Jesus. Yeah, we forgot him.

And the Bible says when the time had fully come. So he came at the time when Israel was under Roman rule to give himself to die a terrible death, that my theory is to show us just how bad evil is. and that was part of that Isaiah passage. Man. Well, it's good stuff to chew on, so I hope this will encourage you

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