Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 113 | Phil's Poaching Days, Si's Early-Morning Drama, and a Miss Kay Update

Episode Date: July 10, 2020

Phil learns about break dancing and recalls the game-poaching days of his youth. Al shares the story of Si's 6:30 a.m. drama and notices something remarkable about Robertson spouses. Jase identifies the three ways people categorize Jesus. And the guys discuss why there are four gospels, the Lord's Supper and legalism, and how Miss Kay is doing after her recent medical issues. https://adjace.com  Get Your SIGNED COPY of Jesus Politics by Phil Robertson at Barnes & Noble: https://bit.ly/3fYEV4i See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX   See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1  - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? All I have is 20s now, my bill phone, no hundreds. No hundreds? Really? Well, you got to get out there. Is that mom? She came by, you got 100.

I said, 20. Well, how does the money get there? I had several 20s, up to a couple hundred of it, all in the 20s. I don't know. But she just, I think there's a story there. When she does it out, she don't look better, hundreds. And I'm thinking. No, she got to.

10 from me. I gave her $1,000. She probably run through that way. She gave her way. I told you. 10 out of 10. 10. Gave every bit of the way. I said, you give away too much money. She said, what are you going to do when you die? Are you going to need it then? I'm like, I'm trying to get my head wrapped around that thinking. Well, what I love though, is so you and mom, your life is so different than everybody else because you're here. You exist and you live.

but you never shop for anything. Money just appears in your wallet. Fresh new underwear and T-shirts in your drawer. That's where it works. Because you haven't actually... Well, who, where does it come from? Well, that's the point. Dad doesn't know.

There's no. You don't know. I don't even have a meeting. You know, that's your meals ready. I mean... Dad just, I mean, that's ready for your nap. I mean, everything is laid out. I mean, it's kind of a charmed life, really, I guess.

When you think about it, you go outside, you got people standing there. They're going to run their equipment. They're going to go down there. You get old. Well, where did they come from? I don't know. They just go. We need, you need a psychiatrist in your life.

A cadre of individuals who just showed up. And then yesterday, I'm going to go around. I see Red's truck. And I walk around at it. I see his feet sticking out on that building. He said, he said, wait a minute, was the building on him? He said, they're not leaving me a lot of room here.

And I said, what are you doing, Red? He said, oh, it's hot water tanks leaking. He said, rats got it. Well, he's up under the trailer, cuts a plug about like I threw it out there on the ground. I picked it up. So this is one of your properties that he's working up. But you don't know. He's just doing it and he just takes care of things.

He's fixed to put that little room in right here. Yeah. They said, Ms. Kay said he got 30 days. he'll want her to give him a little money and she'll say okay here's what you got to do so start on the trailer that hot water takeover is leaking and he's on you have him on retainer

he said I don't thermostat went out on that air conditioning he said I knew it wasn't running he said but uh he said thermostat's bad he said but I got a couple of them in the box up there he went and got a thermostat he had it running 15 minutes it's air compressor one of them calls burn up on it

he just he just unspeakest air compressor's running I'll give him a $20 bill sometimes so what's your point is you used to give him a hundred

but you looked up in the hundred now you've only got so mom's put 20s sometimes I give him two 20s but I usually pay him if he's there and it's it was actually hard work or pretty slick work

he can love cash so but you only need cash for what comes to you because you don't go anywhere to spend cash so if you have a need in the moment, right? That's kind of at work.

But you're not sure where the money's coming from. No. I'd probably look into that. He doesn't care though. I could get fleeced and end up with nothing and I would never even know it. You know what's disturbing is nothing would probably change. And nothing would change. That's what I'm saying.

You're pretty a low maintenance type of guy. Very lovely. You've lived in the same house for 40 years. The only time I spend a lot of money is like land. Yeah. Well, yeah. Or equipment. You spend something on equipment.

Well, he got a whole fortress. I'm not sure that was on the upper night. But you start riding herd on 1,600 acres in the boys' names or the others. If you get, if you're running, you say that real quick. That's a lot of property. That's a big chunk. You know, it's crazy. Some of that land you got, you know, years ago, you bought it for just $200 and $300 an acre.

Because nobody thought it was worth anything. That's correct. Because of what you're doing is. It's a flood. Well, you're, I mean, Phil's the only man in probably this area that when he came down here and they said, you know, the reason the place is so cheap. Yeah, it's because it's in a flood area. And Phil is like, perfect. That's right.

Yeah. Let's get, let's go. Yeah. I was looking at it. Like, I told Dan, I was just sitting over out of the day looking. I said, damn, every time I look out across these woods, I can't believe we all in all this. I said, he said, I can't believe it is. Well, my theory.

He said, you helped me believe in God because he said, I looked at where you started and what you ended up with. He said, oh, there has to be a God. Well, we hunted a lot of the property. But Red's convinced of it. And then nobody wanted it. Nobody wanted it. So we hunted a lot of the property around here because someone we knew was leased in it

or some of it was public land at one point. Oh, let's face it. We roamed around here and hunted and nobody said a word. No, but now we own it, which is really interesting. And my theory has always been to that, and this may or not be true. is just what I think, that when you were young, you and your siblings, so you, y'all don't have anything either. Poor.

And all the land around you was owned by farmers because you were in a farm area. All of it posted. Yeah. And so you were roaming around trying to hunt and really just, in y'all's case, for sustenance, right? No, we were roaming around not trying to hunt. We hunted it. Because we thought anything that like,

that grows like fruit, nuts, or animals. That was a gift from the Almighty, right? Yeah. So you didn't care who on the land. You weren't really worried about it. It was something growing or something just walking along in the woods that you could eat. We said, go for it. Yeah.

That's called rationalization. Big time. It's called poaching now. But anyway, what my theory is is that because you did that all your early life, that there was always something in you that wanted land. I think that was put in there. The sons of the landowners, the landowners we were poaching on, they all slowly died out. We leave.

We're there for a period of time hunting on their land. They would come back and tell their children that Robinson bunch, they said, you can't catch them. They said, they can run. They said, they jump by barrow finches like deer. You can't catch them. Well, their sons call me up. up 40, 50 years later. Oh, yeah.

And they said, we used to hear stories about all you, Robinson boys. They said, now you're a legend. Well, they said, we've come up to a conclusion because all the sons of the landowners were in there drinking coffee. I said, we're talking about the old time. And the guy that was talking said, my dad used to come out and say, hey, you like to caught y'all and you all ran. He'd laugh, you know, scared y'all and everything. And that guy said, but we just, I just want to tell you, Rob, said, you know, you know what the situation is?

We miss y'all. Because it was exciting. We brought a little excitement, you know, a little poaching. Well, it's funny, Dad, because a lot of those guys obviously now. Plus, they saw where we ended up. Right. And they said, good. Well, those guys are your age to mine and Jason's age.

Now they were proud to try to catch us because. That's right. And, you know, you're famous. So all these people that are working in city government over in that. where you grew up. I spoke at this big conference one time and it was just, it was all the civic people of Louisiana town councils, mayors, a lot of them ended up. Well, look, so all that crew from all those little towns around there, you know, where you grew up, they all just rushed at me, you know, to come up to tell me all about stories they remember to you inside, how proud they were of the,

you know, the native sons. And I laughed about it because I thought, you know, we never touched any equipment. Right. Like if they had a tractor, a wrench, a shell, no, you didn't touch equipment. Does that be lined up? You stuck carefully to the harvest of squirrels

and fish, but as far as like messing with their stuff, tearing up anything, no. So you remember Jay's... I think that's why you got forgiveness. Yeah. Maybe. And you remember Jay's dads didn't give us a lot of rules growing up, but one of the things he stressed a lot was you do.

not steal from other people. He was big on that. There was no thefts at all with our family structure. Other than their plums and their dants. If it grew on trees, that old woman ended up the road had a couple of peach trees and saw and I would watch them closer than she did. And when they got right, if they started falling and she wouldn't go picking them up, I said, she's wasting them peaches.

I would think. He said, we got to hit it. Did you do it at night? We'd go the peaches. We'd do it late in Eden. And we'd go into the bushes, eat, eat, go back and get another peach. When we got full of peaches. So you just ate your fill.

We were like a coon. I said, we don't want to take more than we need. We didn't get a basket full and take them home. You weren't selling them. No, none of that. It's what you could eat in the brush, like watermelons, get them to the thick, the thick, break them, eat the heart out of it. And we sit there. And we said, what do you think?

We said, we can go another one. And we'd go out there. And we knew they'd already harvest them. These were just they're going to leave them. Well, look, I want to say this. Remember when we were in Washington, duck hunting? And somebody said, they said, you know, these farmers, they don't care if you go eat them apples under the tree.

And everybody looked around. I was like, are you serious? I tell you what I did, the next orchard we got to let's just pull over. We all went out there and got under the trees and ate enough apples to where I didn't want another apple. That guy from Washington State said they leave a tree or two on the edge. they won't yeah he said just for people to visit passing by just for turis i said well pull over that's smart yeah but i was thinking that when you said that i said i bet that old woman knew y'all were eating and probably just thought well then boys are hungry you know you never know you always assumed

that people you know are not generous but she probably knew and just didn't care if i ate a few peter i don't know depends on how old she was well it could be so you mentioned size so so the other day Si's over the house because now that he and Stone, my son and are in business together. You know, they're in the grill. Are they? Oh, yeah. They got a grill business going on some guy they met.

Well, Jay can't grill. Now, he can grill. And then Sai, of course, you know, has a whole line of, you know, just. So I can eat. Bull. Even though he doesn't look like, Sal looks malnourished. But I'm going to tell you that. That man can eat.

I've never seen a person that can eat so much. Well, we got to, I've talked to him into getting the physical therapist down. that happened with his lungs. His own lungs smoking in Winston's, you know, when he was younger. Yeah. But so now the physical therapist, he's bringing him back. Yeah, so he came in yesterday and Jay said, well, how'd your fit? Because Jay's been trying to kind of, you know, trying to save as much you can.

He's got C-O-P-D. If he does what Jay does, he's not going to be. No, no, no, no, he can't do that. So he's got C-O-P-D, which means he can't get better. His lungs are already, I mean, they're degenerating, but you can't hold off the slide. So that's the whole thing. But so Philip asked him, he said, so how'd you have your physical therapy going? He said, they're killing me.

They're killing me. And Jay's like, well, no, they're not killing you. That's the whole point. They're keeping you from that. No, they're killing me. He says, it was just like when I did PT in the Army, I told him, I ain't getting this. I'm still just winded every time I run. This ain't working.

It's a piece of junk. So anyway, so so Philip is there. Philip is a guy that Chase converted. And he told the conversion story. From the side of the road? It's from the side of the road. and he now, after all these years, what was that, 30 years ago? Yeah, when I brought my best friend to the Lord,

we were going to a Bible study for another guy, and he saw him on the side of the road. He was just, like, pull over for whatever reason. And he's like, hey, that's my buddy, pull over. And he's like, hey, we're going, you want to go? We're going to play some cards. That's what he said. He's like, I'm in.

And so he went over there. And when we got in there, I just said, here, let me show you something. And I shared Jesus with him. And, I mean, he's been changed man ever since. So, and he was, he was, for those of you that watch the show, Dynasty, he was McMillan, the villain. Yeah, that was an embellishment on the show. Yeah, because he really is a friend, but he was, but he was a nemesis in your high school year. So that's kind of where that grew out of that.

He has that personality. Oh, he's actually a really funny guy. He knew impersonation. He's had a weird life. He used to be like a break dancer. Not that that's weird, but it was weird in our culture, you know. I'm former break dancer. You know, I do voices.

What's the break part? What does that mean? Break part. Oh, boy. Yeah. Like dancer, I got it, but break dancer. It was a style of dancing. Remember they get around, spin around the floor?

Did you ever see what they did? It looks like they were having an epileptic fiddle. They're doing like, yeah, fake pushups and spinning. Spinning around. This is about. when they had the big stereos. Yeah, it's the 80s. Break part.

You know what we used to do when we first brought Philip to the Lord? Look, we would gather up at somebody's house. I mean, they'd be 20 or 30 of us. And he would call people and we would do pranks. And we would laugh because you're supposed to be quiet. And look, the hardest we ever laugh was when he called my wife's dad, who was a traveling preacher and had a mission work. and so he called him and of course he answered the phone and you know and then he would do

some voice that he wouldn't tell us and he was like I you know I was at that we care campaign and I just got the impression that y'all didn't care and and you know missy's dad would try to respond well what happened you know he's like you know I'm sitting in there and some of your volunteers you know they just treated me like a dog And he's like, well, we're sorry that happened to you. And he's like, well, you ought to be. I mean, you're going around saying you care. And you treated me like you didn't give a care in the world.

I'm sitting there thinking about coming to Jesus. But I thought, nope, you just don't care. Jay said, I think y'all were carrying that a little too far there. Well, I'll tell you one thing, it's as hard as I've ever laughed. Because when you go into a room and you can't laugh, it's like, does something uncontrollable. So let's take a quick break. So Philip, here's the amazing thing. So Philip is a guy that Chase converts, and then we converted his wife.

She was his girlfriend then, but then she became his wife. But now they've been around, I married them, which is usually the way it worked, all these people, Jay's was converting back in his old buddies, then I would marry them. And then we would all took part in their discipleship because they would have them over in groups. I mean, those were great days. And they're all like solid Christian people now. With Philip, it's interesting because Philips, because Philips, Philip, because he was a part of our show, a part of the Dynasty,

he developed a really close friendship with Sai through that process. And they had not really known each other before that other than see each other at church. And so he just kind of became Sy's right-hand man. And, of course, they like to play cards. But, I mean, Philip does everything for Sae. He's with him on the road. It really gives me a lot of peace because, I mean, we're kind of looking out for Sy because his kids don't live here.

And so, you know, I'm always worried about him, like, you know, because Sile will just do anything. You just never know. Yeah, that is the one thing about the show. He's actually crazier and older than he appears. That's right. I mean, he is a crazy old man. So Philip, so Philip looks after him, which is good.

So Philip and I talk all the time because I'm always trying to look out for Sai. I make sure nobody takes advantage of him, you know, because it would be easy to do. And so Philip, you know, so he, like he does everything and takes care of it. So they were telling the story. Phillips telling me the story, or maybe Sye was telling him. And so Philip, he calls Philip at 6.30 in the morning. And he says, the alarm is going on. This crazy alarm is going on.

I can't turn it off. And so Philip could hear the beeping. And Si is like, you know, it's 6.30 on a Saturday morning. And Cy is calling Philip. He says, a piece of junk, you know, and he's talking to Phillips. So Philip says, well, go to the things out of it. I'll walk you through it. So he goes in there and he opens up the alarm.

So it's this door alarm. And he says, all right, here's the coat. Punch it in. So he punched it in. Still going. It won't work. It's a piece of junk. And Phil's like, Sy, it has to order it.

Punch it in again. You must hit the wrong number. So this goes back and forth. And finally, Saiz's like, you got to get over here. This is driving me crazy. So Philip loads up 6.30 at the morning. He got woke up. He comes in.

He walks in the door and the alarm's not going off. But he can hear it. And Cy says, it's a piece of junk. I'm telling you. and Phil starts looking around. He goes, Cy's alarm clock is going off. And he thinks that the door alarm.

And Philip, and look, they live like, Sae lives on the way out here. So, I mean, he had to drive 20 minutes to get to us. He's putting,

he's putting the man to look after putting him in a, can you imagine? I mean, I laughed so hard. And Sao was like, Sao was kind of embarrassed. And he said,

yeah, I should have checked that other piece of junk. You know, I mean, he just moves right. But Sa' said he looked around when Philip realized what had happened. Philip didn't even say anything. He just said, I heard a squeal. And I looked around, and all I saw was the taillights of Philip squealing out of my driveway.

Because he only woke him up, Barney, while they're out there for nothing. And I said, Philip, were you hot? And he said, well, I was for a minute. But I can't stay mad. Welcome to my world. I worked beside him for 10 years at this range. That's right. Oh, boy.

So, Jay, there was another event. missed it. It was a big event that happened at my house. I missed it too because I was out of town. But there was the Robertson girl cousin get together. I hadn't heard about this. Yeah. So apparently, I didn't know this either once a year, all the Robertson girl cousins, because we got a few girl cousins, they get together and they do it with, with Louisiana is like, who, corona. Start over again. So they had this big cousin girl get together. So it was really interesting so I kind of came in at the tail end of it and you know Amy was there and who all was there Tracea Lee which is size daughter Lulu was there Melissa it was about

six or seven of the girl cousin I bet them jamble out oh did you so you knew about it because they came out of jamble out they came out and visited so it was really interesting and they wanted to meet Phyllis but Phyllis wasn't able to come because she had to work but that was kind of the purpose of the gathering but I thought it was interesting because what they do now does they sit around. Most of their parents have passed away, your siblings, because now it's just you and sigh left. And so they basically sit around and tell stories about what it was like to grow up Robertson. And it was really interesting because listening to them talk, it's a totally different experience, which makes sense from the girl perspective versus

from our perspective, because they don't hunt, you know, they don't play domino. Like all the things we did growing up that was kind of a part of our. Robertson male makeup, they see it a lot differently. I mean, it was really interesting just me listening to them talk about their parents and about how they were. And they were seated around in their table. What did y'all talk about when they came? Well, they were carrying on a conversation, cousins, Robertson cousins.

So they're all, so I said, I got to get out of here. So I go in there. I said, well, I'm going to sleep on it. So I go on in there. They said, is he coming back? No, he's not coming back. So I go in there and I just woke up because one of the stories they were telling got so much laughter, they literally woke me up. So they woke.

I thought somebody had broken in the house. But then I thought about it. I cracked the door and I looked there. They were all in there just kind of cooling off from the outburst of it. It sounded like they were something bad. So they really he hauled on something. Do you even know what it was? I just see the door back and went back in then.

Oh, that's hilarious. So here's the thing we noticed, Dad, that was interesting. Maybe you can answer this because I'm just curious now. So there's two Robertsons left out of the seven, you and Cy. Yep. But every Robertson's spouse, including Jimmy Frank, had two because that was only divorce that ever happened, was he and his first wife. But they're all still alive. Yep.

So how do you explain that? What's the five out of seven? Robertsons have passed on, but eight out of eight spouses are still alive. That just, I found that weird that somebody wouldn't have passed away. Does it mean that just? Hard to figure. I don't know. I don't know.

That's a weird thing. Jays, you got a random. Random numbers, random chat? I don't think it means anything. Okay. Well, it's just, I just struck me as curious, you know. Yeah. I mean, that is interesting, but I don't.

Now, and I'll say this, you can't predict the future. I'd say there's a pretty good chance that Syme would go before Christine just because of Cy being having COPD and all that although he's a pretty tough old bird so he may not but Christine I told you I learned my lesson about Mrs. Grandma

that woman just defies death and then mom with all her various ailments I mean you wouldn't think but who knows you know yeah you know well I hope the Almighty gives her a little longer on the earth she's a one woman wrecking crew I mean she falls you know

Oh yeah Self-imposed Getting their legs I mean Deep cuts I know Stitches Will he tell

About way I go in I doctor on I said She said You know you're so good to me I mean Taking care of my wounds here

You know And I said look You got to remember I remember you When you were about 14 or 15 I said so I've been with you whole time here

I said I'm just Taking care of you Well and I I want to compliment you that Because you haven't always been the nurturing type throughout your life. It never came natural to you, but I've noticed in your later years that you are much more especially concerning mom. Yeah. And you take care of her. And like she's, because she's had some pretty bad ailments the last couple of years.

She's had a lot of health problems. By the way, all you guys that have been emailing about that and praying for mine, we appreciate it. She's doing great. Her latest wound, she's almost over. She's back up and around doing her thing. So we're down to a little bit of a slight amount. Not a whole lot with little cutips, just putting a little proxide. And the wound is just heating slowly. But it was a gash on a lower, lower leg. It looked terrible. Right above the foot.

Oh, yeah. That was bad. Oh, it was a bad cut. But she's doing great. So we appreciate all the prayers on that too. Let's take another break. So the Book of John is where we've been camping out. And I think, Jace, it was you that said, or maybe it was.

you and dad, said that in our opinion, our studied opinion, the book of John is one of the best places to go, number one, just to get into Jesus and see who he is. How would you characterize it? When I spoke at the farm animal owners, I think my first line was, whatever you think about Jesus is going to affect how you live, where you go,

what you talk about, what kind of personality you have. And I just kind of paused, because I've learned through the years, that some silence is good when you say something profound. And I recommended to that audience, because I was with a bunch of farmers, it really wasn't a religious setting, but they had a little devotional there. And I talked about that on a previous podcast,

but all I did was introduce Jesus, because he's the image of the invisible God. because everyone struggles with believing in something and trusting and making life decisions based on something you can't see. That's what faith is. And being sure, how sure you are of it. So that's why we hang out from Matthew, Mark, Luke, or in this case, John, because you know what God is like because you literally can visualize because he was a human.

He was a carpenter, you know, he was. went through, you know, nobody believed he had any kind of special sauce, you know, who do you think you are? That was a line, asked him. And, and that, but when you look deeper and look at what he says, it, it truly gives you an image of what God is like through a human existence. His name is Jesus, translated to, you know, to English. But that's how you get to know God. That's why we just, that is the focal point. Right. And we've said this before. So there's four Gospels. Because a lot of you guys are just for the first time really getting into Bible study.

And I appreciate all the comments we get about it. There's Matthew Mark, Luke, and John, four different versions of the same story. Yeah. Well, Ann, I've often said, I've said before, but since we're kind of doing an overall review here, the people who wrote the titles and the division of the Bible. Just people did that. You know, the Holy Spirit through these men wrote the letters. Right.

So then people came in to organize the Bible and made the little headings and, but none of that is inspired. Right. And so I think it gives some people an inaccurate depiction of really what it's about. That's why I don't break the Bible down into New Testament, you know, versus the Old Testament. Somebody had that idea and it worked. I look at it more like, okay, the Old Testament, which would be Genesis to Malachi,

basically says Jesus is coming to the earth because you set the stage through history or God did while we needed. And to be precise, the Old Testament was still in force when Jesus showed up. That's right. During his ministry, a lot of people miss that. Because you can read in Hebrews, you know, it's like they get the word testament from, When someone dies, you know, if they read their last will and testament, then there's a shift in how that family line will continue and what you divide his stuff up and all this. So that's why I said, I have a different view of it.

I view that section of history as Jesus is coming, because that is the thing. He's coming to earth. Then Matthew to John would be section number two, which is Jesus is here. and that's what you see what God is like. And now the one thing they all have in common, Matthew, Martin, John, is that Jesus was perfect. You know, he came from a virgin, he's perfect. He died on a cross as a sinless human.

He was buried and he came back from the dead. Which all four record, so some have asked me, why repeat yourself from four different angles about the same person? And I answer to that every time. is so you can't miss it. Well, right. That's why when you really, you're like, well, why is it the same stuff? Well, it's just four different angles of what Jesus was like when he was here on the

earth. Then you have Acts of the Revelation, which I believe basically says he's coming back. So then the churches get started all, you know, from while he was here. So if you kind of look at it. That Acts 11, he leaves supernatural. Right. So, I mean, generally what I'm saying. You know, the Levith.

verse of Acts 1 would be that transition, just like we were talking about the Testament earlier about being a transition point, but they're just making that up also. But that way, if you look at it like that, you get the point, which is Jesus. You say, well, why is that the point? Because that's how you, he's the image of the invisible God. So that's how you, how you know what God is like. Right. And so each one of the, each one of the early gospel writers, you know, Matthew was one of the 12. He was the tax collector. And it's interesting because he had a heavy Jewish, I mean, he was Jewish.

And so the book of Matthew is much more themed in law and Jewish history. And it's different. And Jesus is rebuttal. That's exactly right. So a lot of those texts are going to deal with that. That's the old woe to you section, you know. And so John doesn't even deal with that. You know, Matthew did.

Mark's got a different take. his was a lot shorter. Mark was younger. You know, and it was interesting. You get a little bit different flavor. Luke was actually a Gentile. He's a physician. He ran around with Paul in that era. And then he wrote Luke and Acts, which is really interesting. And he was writing those as a testament to send to somebody to send to theophilus to show them, hey, this Jesus and this New Testament or this church, you know, now we know it's a New Testament. All of them said so much and approached it from all the different angles

that four different individuals end up saying the same thing about the same being at the same time. And you're saying, how could they have, how could it be possible that they invented that story? Right. It's too rich in history. And the reason I bring it up now is because I want our audience who's going through the study of John. with us to always know the best way to do this is when we're studying a we're in a passage a lot of go and find those other Matthew what he says mark says Luke says because you're going to get some flavor around what's going on in a different perspective it's the same reason why a famous person

like say uh George Washington I mean how many biographies have been written about him and think about it because he lived a lot of different aspects of his life was the same thing with Jesus I mean he had a huge impact in three years on the ministry on the earth. Well, but what separates Jesus is he came back from the dead. Well, obviously. Well, I'm just saying. That's the only part when you get to that, that's the only part that Thomas Jefferson,

who I admire for the Declaration of Independence and his, but, but, but, but he could not, he could not know that. He missed, yeah, he couldn't leave. Yeah, he couldn't move. But, nobody, you know, is any leader, they're disqualification. qualified when it comes, you know, once they're dead. I mean, so now here you've got a claim of a person who, number one, claims to be God. That's quite a claim.

Number two comes back from the dead. Okay, well, now we're with you. Because whatever you represent, this, whatever I'm searching for or feel like I need to find on Earth, that's where you need to end up. Because that's really the only ticket off the planet in a real way that. that's kind of like you were here. Right. So let's take another break.

So basically we're all just kind of coming out of COVID with our being able to meet at our church, which has been a blessing. Dad, you guys met recently, which that went well, right? Yep. And so did ours. It was really neat. I thought it was emotional, I would say, when everybody got back together.

We started singing. I was a little emotional. I was too. And a lot of people were that, you know, our singers and stuff. So it's kind of, it's been hard, obviously, being a part. But we got a new sponsor for the show, and they have come up with a good product to help keep people connected. It was especially important during COVID, but even going forward. It's called a J-S-A-D-J-A-C.

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coming back to, is he the son of God? Is he not the son of God? That's why I said that. What you think about Jesus, if you think about that one question, these questions in John are asked over and over and he has a demon. Well, he seems like a good man. If you just zeroed in on the claims, that's right. I remember even when we were in school, we had a whole section of just the claims and what people thought. You know, I read somewhere where somebody said they boiled it down to you believe he's either a liar, a lunatic, or Lord. And that was the three categories, which I kind of like that, because it's, it's either crazy, you know, and the people, this is so crazy.

Either y'all are a bunch of lunatic's and so is he, or is this just a big lie? Yep. Or is he truly Lord of heaven and earth and the Lord of my life? I mean, those are three, that pretty much sums up your view of Jesus. And I think that's in the common air now, you see that, but the point is it was there then, too. I mean, they could not figure it out. It was like, how does he know so much? He hadn't studied.

You need the son of Mary and Joseph? I mean, none of this makes any sense. But they were in the dark on one key component. A lot of these people were very knowledgeable about Old Testament prophecy, and they would go back and quote, there's our one. No good thing comes from Nazareth. There's no way. But see, they missed it.

They didn't know his morning Bethlehem. They missed that point. See what I'm saying? But even if they missed so many different aspects of it. But even if it was true, he's going to defy all your normal laws anyway. That's exactly right. You know, they were, I mean, God's the one he thought it was a big deal to fulfill all the prophecy.

Because to me, a lot of times I'm just selfishly confessing here. I'm like, why did he think that was something? such a big deal. Because once you're raised from the dad, that's all you had to do for me. You didn't have to go through 300 fulfilled prophecies, you know, through history to impress me. Once the resurrection happened, I'm officially impressed. He wanted to make sure the evidence was overwhelming. How could I fulfill this many problems? And he's perfect. You know why? Because you and I are imperfect. So you're right. I mean, he's perfect.

So in other words, God can't leave a loophole. No loophole. No loophole. I think what I was, I was being tongue and cheek, just because I think he did it, if you really ask me, because when he says something, he wants you to believe it. When I say something, it's going to happen. I mean, you write it down. And here's how I worked it out in history. How many fulfilled prophecies?

300 and something, yeah. Yeah, 300 times. You try to pull something. a prediction off like thousands of years before said this is going to happen and then oh it did and you do that over 300 times well you get the impression when he speaks you can more than take it to the bank I don't know whatever analogy you can put on that there's not a big enough one a god promise is in stone that eternal stone it is but I think that's why he did it that's why it says it's impossible for him to lie. But here's the irony. All that was happening, all those prophecies are being fulfilled,

but because it wasn't how they thought it was supposed to be, they were missing it over and over and over again. Because his narrative did not fit their narrative. And it still doesn't today. To a lot of people. To this day. It was just like on the last podcast and you were talking about in your mind, you had been led to believe a narrative that if you were an old person, and you got coronavirus, you're done. That's right. It's over. You forgot that God was still in charge.

I forgot that God could say, you know what? I think I'm going to, I got a plan for her for another year. I'm like, okay, I was wrong. You got to remember, Jay, the Pharisees, they were the experts in law. Yeah. And they got this fellow that says, oh, I've come to fulfill it. And then I'm going to live by it. I've come to fulfill it.

They're like, you're going to do what? They just couldn't. Well, that's why they killed him. Because they're like, you're a blasphemy. I mean, who are you to claim? That's why they try to trap him with all these questions. Just how much is in John about they figured out a question? These are smart.

It never entered their mind that the Lord Jesus, along with the Father and the Spirit, wrote the law. They just couldn't think that. Well, what if he said, well, if he said he's going to fulfill it, Nobody else had, but he's going to do that. How could he say such a thing? He could just simply say, I wrote it. I mean, if there was ever a bunch who were sincerely mistaken, this was it.

I mean, I think the miracles always go to them. I would, you would think you would believe once you saw that, but nope. So this one. I figured one would do it for me, but not. I would think. I mean, I would say, just show it to me. If you take off running across that river out there, I'd say, okay, but I'm, forget whatever expert. I thought I was expert, but if you can do that, you're the expert.

Let's take one last break. So, Dad, I wanted, before we get into, we're going to get into back into the Book of John today, but I want to mention your book again, because you guys have been doing awesome, doing the early orders, pre-orders. The book releases August 4th, but we're trying to get as many copies pre-waters, but we're trying to get as, as many copies pre-ordered as possible. A lot of you went to Jesuspoliticsbook.com because you got 2000,

the first 2000 got a signed copy. Well, you guys got all those, which thank you for that. That's awesome. So when I get an opportunity, I want to let you know about it. So Barnes & Noble.

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you know, my dad. I think it's really good follow-up to the first. first one. So if you want to check that out, Barnes & Noble.com, first 500, get a signed copy. When I talked about that in my last sermon I preached, because I talked about that there were two miraculous feedings, one, 5,000, one, four thousand, two, I mean, and Jesus is trying to tell his disciples, because even they're like, you know, he was like, hey, I mean, how many basketballs

you pick? And he's like convincing them. And these people come back up and they're just like, well, we need a sign. How do we know it's you? You got to give us a sign. They had just, It just miraculously produced food on two different occasions to feed thousands of people. And they were like, you know, we're going to need a sign on that because we're just, I really. You took a large picnic, though, a large picnic of 5,000. I've said this before. When you're back there and rolled 40 back in there and somebody comes by and it got fish and bread, you're just thinking, boy, whoever brought that in, they didn't have trucking in.

But whoever, whoever hauled it. But what do you think it tasted like? This is some good fish and good bread here. Now, I bet it was the best ever. Well, yeah. But they couldn't see the truck or the wagon with all that because that's a lot of people. I mean, I've fed, you know, up into the hundreds, but I've never gotten into four or five thousand. But that's a lot of grub.

That's a lot of grub. Oh, it's phone. When you preached on that, talking about that, it got into a conversation in our house that got funny. because Missy said, you know, first she said if you were having a death row meal, you know, your last meal. And I think Corrine said, well, that's kind of depressing. And Missy's like, yeah, let me change that. If the first meal you were going to eat in heaven, so I thought that was better.

She's like, I got to thinking, you know, one of the evidences of God, she's like the first time I was down at Phel and Kay's, and I ate a crawfish pie, I thought there's got to be a God. because this is the greatest thing to have these. These are like almost heavenly components that have been put together. The perfect crust. That man cannot create. I mean, they're serving.

And she went on a big dog. I was like, I didn't realize you like that crawfish pie that month. And she said, oh, no, I'm ordering the crawfish pie on the first. It was life changing. Phyllis and her man, when they came to visit us, Ms. Kay, I said, break out the best, Ms. Kay, you know, like a crawfish pie. When they ate that, those two, they said, when we, that touched our lip, we thought, my goodness, what have we found here? I mean, they are amazing.

Well, that spawned the conversation. When we started talking about Jesus feeding the five, that, how did they miss it? And then we started talking about, okay, what would our one meal be? It was real interesting to hear because I didn't realize this. But Missy had the crawfish pie with a side of Kay's chicken and dumplings. Yeah. because she couldn't get off that. They are good.

With a piece of her chocolate pie. But then this I thought was funny. And then she said, and aside of my twice baked potatoes. I was like, oh, you went on your own on that one. Because everybody makes those twice baked potatoes, but she's like, mine's the best. They are.

She's right. Whoever originates is typically always the best. But you're right, that is interesting that she added her own. Well, she was giving credit everybody. I thought it was going to be a collection of milk. And then she said, you remember Gloria Jenkins, who's going to be with the Lord now? We know her sons really well.

They love the Lord. And she said, she brought up her homemade rolls. And I mean, I'm like, when's the last time you had one of them? She's always been 20 years, but I never forgot. And I was like, she had assembled this meal and was more given the credit to the ingredients to God, which I thought was interesting. Of course, then we all went around and named our, like, five-course meal. It is pretty interesting that a lot written in the Bible,

you would have an over abundance. A lot of texts in and around food. Yeah. I think so. Not said about food. Well, and I think Jesus interacted in that. I mean, he went to parties, you know, his first one was changing water to wine. But even this, I mean, he was giving you the image.

I thought your point Sunday about when Jesus making that from the earthly to the heavenly. And I forgot how you said that. I looked through a spiritual lens instead of just a physical. When he said, eat my flesh, because most people, I think you made the line, you said, as soon as people read that, they're like, oh, wait a minute. Yeah, wait, whoa. Whoa. You had me.

Drink my blood. What was the point you made Sunday about that? So I made the point that all he was doing was making the transition, that that's how we maintain what he did for us going forward. See, he already had in mind the Lord's Supper, the things he had implemented. He basically was saying, don't forget. forget. That's right. And what he was saying was, is this sustenance is going to go on for you until I come back. And so that's what he meant by it. But if you were only thinking the physical,

which is what they were, the fish and the bread, that's how he was making that. I tell you what you would do. A lot of them did. They left them right down. Well, and that's where we're going to hit that next week in the sermon, because you're right. All of a sudden, it's like, I'm out. Because if it's just about some weird, like, because that just sounds gross to me, there's no, but they did, they missed his home for. The rumor went around that they were cannibals. But don't you think he said that because food is one of the things you have to have. Right. And drink because he said you'll never be hungry and you'll never be thirsty.

What do you know he wasn't talking? We all get hungry. He was like, that's my role in your spiritual life. Exactly. Because like I told you about. By the way, on that, you would think all we have is Acts 27, 20 verse 7 on the upon the first day of the week we came together to break bread. And then you got the Corinthian letter, you know, about as often as you, when you come together, don't forget this.

But why is it that we do that every week? And a lot of people don't. I mean, it just seemed like the weight of what's being recognized there, the body of Jesus nailed to a cross his blood that was shed. And you participate in that. It's symbolic, granted. I think as long as you don't make it a rule on either side, I'm fine with it. I agree. like people to say you have to do it every week and I do it every week. But if you say, well,

you have to, well, you're being silly. Well, the reason why is because I fully believe when they were first meeting daily, they were taking the Lord's Supper more than just once a week. They sure were. So they were taking it on multiple cases. So to try to, you know, we just decided. They would just stop during a meal and say, let's remember Jesus here and they do that. I would. That's pretty cool right there. Somebody feels like they need to do it every five minutes to get closer to the gut. You know what? Carry you around a little, you know, we carry around the little germa, whatever. Germax. Yeah. I'm like, have you a little. Cracker and some juice. Cracker and some juice and you purse for special occasions, especially when you go to that party that you probably

shouldn't have gone and say, hang on a second. The apostle Paul said as oft as you do this, you are proclaiming the Lord's death until he comes. That's the point. Jason's right. You don't want to get in the rules of how often you want to get into the meaning behind why should we keep doing it? Because basically he said in that text, this is the expression going forward until I come back. So this is going to be the reminder. You're in me. You're reading of this. And I made the point in the sermon that he was definitely talking about his flesh because

if he hadn't come here in flesh, we wouldn't be saved. God had to come in flesh. And by the way, in all these countries like China where we have brothers in North Korea and Iran and Russia and all it. You have the sons and daughters of God. You can bet your bottom dollar that they're not doing it in public. But somewhere among that

in their little houses, their little meetings together, they're still remembering Jesus their Lord. Well, you just think how much more that would be worth if you were, if it was against the law or some country to meet two or three of you, two or three

hundred of you. You say church building, that's out. And most of those countries you said no they know where you are then which by the way and we got to go but the uh what you just said that was one of the interesting things about our live stream which I think has been great is that I love it that families they're listening to a sermon and then they're having discussion and they and they and they take the and they take the Lord's supper together and then it you talk about meals and even like missing making that transition from a death row we then started talking about yeah we were all sinfully locked up but he freed us and we need to be on

the positive side of that, you know? And, and like I say about when we get these petty arguments about how much should you take the Lord something, Lord suffer, you never want to be on the side of something where you're defending, thinking about Jesus less. Yeah, yeah. You know, they're like, well, this is how many times you do it. Well, what if I do it twice that much? Nope. Well, you just said, you're supporting not thinking about Jesus. All right, I'm, I'm out. Go do your legalistic deal and I'll let me know how that works out. So if any of you're interested in checking out what I said beyond that, you can go to WFRchurch.org and all our old sermons are on there. It was from the 28th, was the date on that

sermon. So if you want to see what I said, you can check that out. See you next time. So we're so glad you guys were with us today. You can subscribe on iTunes or Spotify or YouTube or Facebook. And be sure and rate us on iTunes so that other people can know about the podcast.