Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 114 | Jase's Reaction to Willie's Haircut, the Best Shotgun, and Phil's Mic Drop
Episode Date: July 13, 2020In this hairy episode, Phil, Jase, and Al reveal what happened when they saw Willie's new haircut, Jase recalls how it felt when he shaved his beard, and Phil is reminded that the last time he shaved ...his beard was after a bet 30 years ago. The guys discuss the hilarious way they got into doing TV, which shotgun they'd hunt with if they could only have one, God's promises, and how Christ fulfilled the law. And don't miss Phil's mic-drop moment on why you never rule out the Italians. Pre-order Jesus Politics by Phil Robertson: http://jesuspoliticsbook.com See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1 - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I am unashamed.
What about you?
For now, we'll just eat like kings.
Eat like kings.
I believe I am a king.
I will give that study on a podcast and a podcast near you.
But right now, I'm digging.
One of the texts that you could use, which it is pretty enlightening,
we are a royal priesthood.
Trust me.
I've already circled.
the word.
I figured you were royal.
That Revelation 1-6 is what got my attention.
He has made you to be kings.
So in all points.
It started with the king of,
we were on the podcast that day.
We were talking with the king of kings and the Lord of Lords.
That's what kind of got it got a rolling for you.
But nobody thinks were kings because it doesn't fit with the narrative,
but they didn't think Jesus was a king either.
He was like,
are you a king?
ha ha he's like yeah yeah that's why i can i'm the king of kings he's like well let's kill you then
i mean that that's basically what they they crucified him because of insanity he's claiming to be a
king well now guess what when i claim to be a king on earth they did the same thing they laugh and
say where's your can let me put some coins in it go buy something what was the true story when they're
then there used to be a king tobacco.
Was it King Albert?
That's a cigar.
Oh, no, that's King Oscar.
King Oscar.
That's the King of Fish.
But in there a tobacco with King in the title?
No, you're thinking about it.
There's a cigar, I think, called a King something.
That's what I was thinking.
Not that I smoke cigars, but.
I thought when I remembered the joke calling the store and saying,
do you have King Arthur in a can,
you better let him out or something.
I just thought that just flashed into me.
I don't know.
But anyway, I'm working.
I'm sure one of our audience members will.
I'm working on a sermon about we are kings.
When I Googled it, I found zero.
Nobody thinks that you're a king in Christ.
Or they haven't taken it to the computer.
They haven't asked about it.
The only place there was, which was my point,
which is the same deal.
You've heard my bit.
I look at products who take spiritual principles,
principles and try to make money from that, even though they don't believe it.
I have a list a mile long.
I've told you about that.
You know, Charmin forever, toilet paper that never runs out, but it does.
Especially during the coronavirus.
Well, yeah, we saw that.
So that whole deal about the eternal role was a lie.
So anyway, the only thing I saw about Kings was humble kings in its clothing, it's apparel,
and they trademarked it because I wanted to write a book.
I think I mentioned that.
I said humble kings.
But nope,
already trademark.
It's a clothing line.
What's a clothing line?
And it was like clothes that are like hip, you know.
And so somehow I know that you're a humble king.
I don't get it.
But it sounds good.
And if you give them $40, they'll give you a shirt.
Yeah.
So yesterday I go over because I got a golf tournament next weekend.
And I haven't been playing much golf.
So I did.
And here's my deal on golf.
I'm kind of past the point.
Once I hit 50,
I'm like, my body just won't turn like it used to.
And with that comes the frustration of, you know, you see a professional golfer,
like used to, I watch videos, then I go try to do it.
When I try to do that, I'm immediately injured.
Just trying to make the motion.
It's just my body.
That's your body preparing you for my age now at 74.
Yeah.
It goes further down than it is now.
Well, if you want to go get into traction, just make a full turn.
So dad's at the point where he reaches out to grab something quickly.
I reach from my falling shotgun.
And the bicep becomes a unicep.
And I did it quickly.
It was falling.
And to save anyone for getting hurt, my left hand was right here.
My shotgun is on my right.
I just went very rapidly and caught it.
And when I did, I said, hey.
So I looked, and this is the result.
I feel that is so, that's very hard.
for me to look at. I mean, I don't know why you keep showing it.
I feel. Because when I see it myself, I say, that needs to be shown on what not to do.
Let the shotgun fall, grab it with the other arm. But if somebody had told me, I would make a movement of less than two feet to grab something.
And this would be the result. It turned purple, the blood up in there. Then it turned yellowish, green.
It's not funny. Why?
When you go do it 87 to 90 times on purpose with a club and you're just making that mode,
I called a man who knew a doctor, and I said, Dan, take a shot of this and give it to this guy.
He called a man and knew a doctor.
So the guy I looked at my muscle of what was left of it, and I said, get a hold of some doctor that does this kind of work and show him this picture and asking what I need to do.
So he calls him up, and the guy said, he said, I said,
I can fix it in about 20 minutes.
It's about 20 minutes worth of surgery.
But you haven't fixed it?
He said, however, he said a lot of people who have that same injury, and I agree with them,
they don't do anything.
Is it, if you're having any trouble with the strength in your left arm, I said, nope.
He said, it just looks funny.
He said, let it ride.
So now you said, it'll heal back together, what's left of it.
And he said, you know, instead of two steps, you've got one set.
by self now that I'm...
And you have the perfect icebreaker for any gathering of people.
If you ever do start gathering with people.
If you get two more of those, you can go get in the circus.
So I didn't go to a local surgeon or I just looked at it, sent the picture in.
Do you need to tie this back together or what you think?
You know, if I was a kid...
He said, let it ride.
I said, let it ride.
If I was a kid, this would be the perfect thing to do at show and tell.
I would bring you up there, you would show it and then tell the story.
It would be interesting.
It would be very interesting.
So yesterday, I'm practicing.
my chipping and pitching, because I don't really care if I win the tournament at this point,
but I don't want to embarrass myself.
That's the kind of golfer.
I just don't because people...
Multiple duffs are embarrassing.
Look, when you look like me and you go play at the establishment where everybody talks like this,
you have to have your shirt tucked in 100% of the time.
But when you look like I do, I stand out.
And people are like, that must be that dynasty guy.
Well, then they're watching every swing.
Or who let him in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, well, they either they know who you are or they find out quickly.
And so I'm at that stage.
So Willie has his own little golf course, you know.
The Lord has blessed him mightily.
And he basically made a synthetic golf course, which is pretty cool.
It's really cool.
And so I was over there practicing, and I'm like 20 minutes in, I'm just kind of chipping around, you know.
And I hear a side by side, you know,
full whittler come out there on his what'd you call it his estate because it goes I mean he's got a
pond just stuffed stock full of croppy and 12 pound Florida bass everything you can like imagine
to do with some property in town he's done it and so which I've got all the crappies so I told him
you know let's buy some more I'll split it with you since I called them because you can't do the ones
it reproduce because then they don't get big.
So you have to do.
That's what they say.
Who knows.
So anyway, here comes this guy.
And I'm like, well, it must be nice, you know.
I mean, Willie's got another worker because he's got a lot of people that's all the time working out there.
Yeah.
And it's always a project.
Yeah.
He pulled up.
It's kind of an awkward moment.
I kind of nodded, you know, but he didn't nod.
And he started picking up limbs.
I started walking over there because I thought, who is this, you know?
And so I was like, boy, it must be nice.
I mean, Willie, he's hiring people just to ride around his property and pick up sticks.
And so about, I guess 10 minutes went on.
I was practicing picking up sticks.
And I got, I hit a ball over there, almost hit him.
You know, I hit a shank.
That's been saying that's when you're trying to correct.
Why do you aller when that happens?
Four?
But I just, I hit it and it was too late.
He was too close to him.
So I'll go there and close.
And I'm like, it hit me.
I thought, I know who this is.
It's Willie.
I said, Willie?
And he went, yeah.
I said, I did not recognize you.
I didn't.
He cut all his hair off.
I didn't recognize him either.
He said, he told me he came in, he sat down, and he didn't say anything.
He was going to get dad's reaction.
And dad looked over.
Willie said on the couch, dad's watching Fox.
And dad looks over and he gave him the nod, which.
is the, which is I don't know you're welcome.
He sat down, I said, I wonder who this did he was.
And then, he came out like he owns the joint.
And then, I thought he was Gary Glenn Oswald.
Willie said, Willie said there was like this awkward pause and Will it was just waiting.
And then dad said, what, what you got, what you got going on?
You know, then he waited until he engaged him.
So Willie started talking and then dad's like, well, is that you?
I had the same problem.
I was like, well, why were you so brief?
Why did you not say anything?
And he's like, well, I didn't know we had to, you know, exchange pleasantries or whatever when you're in my yard.
It really changed the way he looked a lot.
Yeah.
But it was kind of weird because I was like, well, you need to be more friendly.
I mean, this guy, it was way more awkward than it should have been because I was like, who is this hand?
Right.
And what's he doing on one of Willie's new four-witters is what I thought, because I had never seen that wheeler.
So I was like, this guy brought his own wheeler.
I mean, he's picking up sticks.
No, it's Willie with a haircut.
Well, I guess it, but you knew he had a haircut.
I did not regging.
I did.
I saw a picture, but it's like I knew he had a haircut from the social media,
but then I go over to his house, but I mean, it still looked like him.
I mean, it did look different.
I had no idea it was him, none for 10 minutes.
I got over there close, and I just, something about his mannerisms, I thought, is that
Willie?
I guess he's lost a little weight, too.
I mean, he lost 30 pounds worth of hair.
but
plus he took his beard
I told him it looks like a garden gnome
like he drew down to like a little point now
it's a odd looking beard
but he's got the short beard.
I wouldn't recommend that.
I mean I know he went from one extreme
to whatever he is now
but he's unrecognizable.
Well he told me
after you shaved your beard
that one thing he'll never do is shave it off
because he's like you know
a lot happens under there from 40 to 50.
I'm going to have to agree with that.
I mean, look, I just felt really lonely and afraid.
It was a scary feeling.
Could you imagine shaving yourself, Dad, at this point, if you just peeled it off?
It's a good question.
You know, I'd give you a hundred bucks.
Somebody said, well, why did you grow whiskers?
And I usually say, it's just doing that on its own.
Yeah.
I agree with that assessment.
I mean, do you remember?
With a male, hair comes out of their faces, not so much with females.
It's just a fact.
So I'm looking at it thinking, surely being a man that thanks God created the heavens and the earth and made us from the dust of the earth,
the male has hair, facial hair, and the female does not.
There's a few males, Indians types, tribes, that, the, you know.
They don't have any hair on their faith.
I said, but if he put it there, surely he didn't put it there to be cut off every day.
Well, if you live in the wilderness, you would never, I mean, I get it.
You live in the wilderness.
You have to have it.
Yeah.
Because, I mean, like, people don't realize.
It will save your life, in my humble opinion.
Well, especially if you were up north, the tundra.
Well, Louisiana, you know, there's so many insects.
I mean, forget the snakes and alligators.
The things people are.
This has stopped a menial wasp.
Oh, I'm with you 100%.
I've had more critters get hung up in this and that it didn't sting me or bite me.
Me too.
And I'm like,
but that may be where that earwig was hiding out until he went up in the ear, too.
You never know.
I've knocked.
He may have been low-writ and down the beard.
I've knocked black widow spiders just feel something, you know, on your neck.
And then he just hit him.
When he hits the ground, you said, he got up in there.
That'd have been bad.
Black widow, and then I stomp them.
But, I mean, I'm just saying.
Of course you do.
But their whiskers probably say me.
No, you can't like people, because I've had people ask me like if I have fleas.
And I'm like, no.
And they're like, well, how would you know?
I was like, because I would feel them crawling on my skin.
Because you'd be scratching them like a dog.
Well, right.
What's interesting about a beard is there's no doubt.
It's cooler in the summer and it's warmer in the winter.
So God and his wisdom gave you a facial covering.
you take the sun beating down on your jaws and the sun just beating down on you,
this would have to help.
Well,
they call them UV rays.
This is like,
what is the highest sun protection number?
Like,
I don't know.
The highest one that works,
I think is 50,
but that was a joke out.
It's the beard.
Oh,
the beard,
okay.
I got you.
I guess I missed it.
There's no number.
So let's take a break.
I got a question.
So, Dad,
do you remember?
As far as I know, we've never talked about this, do you remember the last time you shaved your beard off completely and why?
Because I remember it.
I remember.
I do not remember that.
Oh, I remember.
He lost a bet.
It was a bet with Ray Mouton.
This is why you shouldn't gamble.
That's right.
Which is funny.
We've talked about gambling.
I've never been into gambling.
Yeah, well, you bet.
Well, you did make a bet.
So here was the, I don't.
I think it was, let me just see if I get this right.
I think it was, we used to have a, the, the, the.
The pastor that married me and my wife, Ray Mountain.
I forgot he did your wedding.
He did.
Yeah, that's right.
And I liked it.
And this was right around that time.
You've been married, is it 30 yet?
30 years?
Why are you asking me this live on a podcast?
I'm going to let me see.
1990 when I got married.
That's 30 years this year.
You better be doing.
That's coming up.
That's coming up.
Yeah.
I pulled a film and looked at my watch that I've never owned.
Is this a big event when you?
Oh, 30s?
Yeah.
That's a big one.
Well, I'll take some ideas.
years later.
Yeah.
My life was too hectic to try to remember the day you were officially married.
Y'all had kind of a weird.
Yeah, we've given you forgiveness.
That's right.
From that era.
Years ago.
But, well, I think what happened was I think Phil wanted to do a neighborhood
fish fry.
I could be totally wrong.
And he didn't think it was a lot of people going to come or something.
Do I have this right?
I'm not sure about that.
I think it was like.
I don't remember.
the premise. I just remember the bet.
The bet was that the people
were not going to show up.
And Phil was saying, oh, that's not going to work.
And Ray Mountain said, well, I tell you what,
if whatever the number was
that the people coming to the fish fry
to share Jesus, because we've done that many
times, use the fish as the draw
to share Jesus.
Whatever the number was, the bet was
if, I think,
what was, what did he?
I think Phil had to shave and wear a suit.
He had to shave and wear a suit,
and then Ray's suit, and then Ray had to preach in camo.
Oh, wear a camouflage, because he always, you know, wore the whatever.
I now know why I don't remember that.
Well, you did it.
You did it.
You had a moment of weakness.
Of course, now this is back, just to so the audience will know,
so this is 30 years ago, 30 to 32 years ago when this happened.
And back then, you would crop your beard up pretty short for the summer.
You know, you just had a normal little small.
small beard. It would get longer during the winter and you would crop it. So it wasn't like it would be
now if you shave the whole thing on. So you weren't that many years removed from when, you know,
you had a short beard. So you shaved it off and put a suit on. I'll never forget this. So you came.
Still, you had been wearing a beard for several years. And came to the church building.
Came to church Sunday morning. Ray preached that day in camo. Mass hysteria. It was, it's what
happened. So all these women are coming up to dad. Now this is, you know, you're still only, you're in your
40s at this point. This is pre-TV show. Pre-TV show. So you still, you know, you still had your
athletic body going on. Now they saw your face. And I just remember some particular older women
just fawning all over dad. And I remember dad looking at mom and we were there and saying,
I'll never do this again. And to your word, as we said here today, you've never done it again.
It was a stir. Do you remember that day? You and I were in school. We were in the school
were preaching at that time. Yeah, I don't remember the details. I remembered it was over how many people
were going to show up and you were wrong. I'd forgotten that. The dad lost because they showed up
in mass because Ray was trying to get you to do it. He was like, and you were like, they're not
going to show up to that, you know? Oh yeah, they showed up in mass. Well, Melton was, he was a really
good storyteller preacher. Old Crosby Stills and Nash had it down. That old rock and roll a group.
you know he said he sings a song i thought about the other day i started to shave my beard he said i
don't know why but but it was a big deal with him does he shave his whiskers or not he chose
nah i don't guess i will but he almost he was thinking if i shave my beard i'll be mainstream
and i don't want to be there so is it weird that every other conversation we have you find
a song that i've never heard of in my life you want you want you want you're on
of the 60s, my son.
Well, but I've, you know, I'm glad you weren't, by the way.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's hard enough for it to survive.
You escape that, Jace.
Where are we headed today?
That was it.
Where are we headed with a conversation?
Yeah, we talked about beers.
Boy, everybody loved that part.
They do love that part.
They love to hear our banter.
I hear from them all the time.
So we had a few questions today.
And I thought this was a good one that James sent us.
And so we get a lot of biblical questions.
So when I get one that's non-biblical, I like to share it.
He said, if y'all only had one shotgun to hunt with for the rest of your lives,
what kind would you pick?
Well, that's a trap question.
I'll tell you this.
Who's our sponsor now on the shotgun?
I don't want to stir the pot.
I don't know.
I don't know, but I'm going to answer truthfully and honestly after I say this.
Actually, I wanted to talk about that.
You know, what Phil was a Browning man for years just because that's what he had.
And when we started doing the Duck Commander videos, you know, the actual duck hunts,
what started us to be on TV was a commercial.
And Badelli, you know, became our sponsor.
Not because we wanted to leave Browning.
They just, they said we no longer, you know, thank you.
We no longer need your services.
which is kind of how it goes when you have sponsors for videos and all.
So, Benelli, I think it was one of the funniest moments ever
because they wanted to do a commercial because they really liked our videos.
And they said, we want to do a commercial.
Would y'all do it for Benelli?
And we'll give you whatever money to help you do your video.
And look, it was not big money.
No, it wasn't back there.
Everybody's like, oh, you got Benel.
I think we were more excited about getting the Benelli shotguns.
Oh, you're doing it to get the shotgun because, I mean, they're proud of it.
They have a high dollar, but it's a great gun.
So they all come down.
This is before any of us has ever seen a TV crew or people.
And so here's a little, a small crew, which it looked big to me back then.
There's about four or five.
Yeah, three or four people.
And they got some cameras.
And the guy who lived it, who became known as the Marine, he was like getting up,
they had, you know, sheets of paper and with dialogue.
And Phil was just standing there.
He kept saying, y'all ready?
y'all ready and they were like it will be right with you Phil I mean they were like
and I think if he says this we'll do this three times Phil said y'all ready
y'all ready and everybody kept talking and finally but tell them the
premise well they they were they were going to say what is the the best shotgun
and they wanted him to they were looking at some catchy lines or phrases
to promote their they were looking for the hook they said we got a hook if he says this
about it but what a blah blah blah they're all arguing about what they want me to say that's right
And so, which is what TV people do.
Oh, yeah.
And Phil said, you all ready, I got it.
And it was like, well, you got what?
Feels like, I got the line.
You can save all that crap.
And so the Marine.
Which is kind of how the way we filmed out.
The Marine, to his credit, which is why he became one of the producers of the show.
That's right.
He said, hey, he kind of jumped on the crew.
He said, hey, turn the camera on and shut your mouth.
And let's hear what he's got to say.
And so they turned the cameras on.
it feels that the best shotgun is one that goes boom boom boom and it was like a weird silence
and then they all kind of chuckled yeah and feels that that'll do it and so like
start getting his mic off you know and the rude said you know what I think he's right
and when he said that the look on the crew's faces were like are you crazy
Crazy? Are you insane?
We've set this all the up, brought all these people here.
But he was right. It was a great line. And they used, that was the line.
Oh, it was their hook.
What I was saying, if you analyze it, is you want it to function.
Yeah, right.
In a creative way.
Boom.
That's right. I said in a way where they're like, what do you mean?
I said, it will fire when you pull the trigger.
Right.
Because shotguns have habits of hanging up.
Oh, yeah.
Because most people, when they do a commercial, they're like,
hi, guys, use this Benelli, Super Black Eagle 3.
It's great for functionality.
Well, people, they quit listening when he went, hi, guys, they go on.
That's right.
They own a port.
But if you can say something that makes people think that's not on the nose,
which granted is why we started doing a TV, because the Marine,
he thought, huh, that was kind of clever.
We need to get these guys a TV show.
And so that introduced, Benelli presents Duck Commander.
Let's take another break.
Yeah, you were exactly right.
The show, that first show we did was born out of that commercial.
But tell about the commercial, the commercial that I don't know if this was connected to that line,
but the one where the fast food, the setup of the fast food.
We did that.
I don't think that was as successful, but we did another commercial later on.
But once again, it got too set up.
Yeah.
And we were ordering a happy meal, and it was a really weird commercial.
It was like it was like, what if a fast food place sold shotguns?
Yeah, that's what it was.
So it was the premise.
So you come through the drive-through, and this was when Willie Boss Hall, this is where that was born out of that.
Because he had a big old white Cadillac with the long horns out of the front of it.
He's in the white suit and the white hat, and y'all are all stacked in there, Godwin and y'all inside.
We look like Shawna-N-N-N-N-N-A.
But they were pretty good commercials.
What they were, and so they piled up, you know.
The one that boom, boom, boom, though, that kind of went viral before things went viral.
And so, yeah, it was.
And so to answer the question, I mean, that is the best.
You know, if a gun is functional, to be honest, okay, what do you need?
I mean, my personal favorite, is this the new Bonelli Super Black Eagle III?
They basically made an improvement.
It is an outstanding.
Now look, are they proud of it?
Yes, it's expensive.
It costs more than my first truck.
Yeah.
Which my truck, I only paid $1,000 for it.
I don't want to scare you.
That's bizarre.
But still.
Every time I think about Benelli and Beretta shotguns, I think of the Italians.
And what can I say, Viva Italia, I guess you would say.
Because somewhere over there in one of them, cubbyholes in Italy,
there are some very shrew.
gunsmiths. I'm on record as saying ever since the Roman Empire failed and all that, you know,
the Italians made a comeback with shotguns and pizzas.
If I had a mic, I'd drop it.
That's how you wind up with a boom, boom, boom, right there.
That should be the tagline of this episode.
The Italians made a comeback.
Never rule out the Italians.
They feel good shotguns and pizzas.
And pizza.
What's so funny is, you know, back when we were doing duck hunt videos and back when I used to care about
what people said on social media and the internet, you know.
I would read some guy that, boy, by the way, how long it'd take you to get over that
because I never participated in that particular conduct,
listen to what somebody said on the internet and said if I'm mad or not.
Two weeks.
Two weeks.
Two weeks.
I thought, you know what, these people are.
You're a wise man.
You're a wise man.
This is crap.
But, I mean, I'm not going to determine my value over what somebody says or has an opinion
in a virtual world that they could be anybody.
and they have no accountability.
You know, everybody's tough when they're on a computer a million miles away.
So that's why, though, I think the language is...
The Internet is solid proof that the Bible is true
because the acts of the sinful nature are obvious in that is hatred.
You see that in America?
Discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions,
envy, drunking.
Galatians 522, but also I will say this, all you're doing is seeing people.
You're just seeing it.
It was going on.
You didn't have to have the internet.
Where there are people, there is simple.
You're just seeing it now quickly in one minute.
But what I was going to say is.
So my question I asked me one time is why I listened to it.
And I decided not to listen to it.
Well, that's fine.
But you are doing a, you are now having a conversation.
that's on there and people listen to it so i'm for the fruit of the spirit is love joy peace patience
that's right we give the other side but i wanted to say this a lot of people what what what i would
read is like boy duck commander sold out you know they went from browning to banelli and i'm like
what no they they fired us for you know they asked they picked our brains they said what do y'all
think we did a few commercials and then they're like thank you that's it so we're we're
So here comes another one.
I hope they had a little bounce in sales.
Who knows?
Who knows?
So Vanelli comes along and they're like, hey, hey, guys.
What do y'all think?
So we're like, hey, we're in with Benelli.
And like I said, mainly it was for the actual guns, which to us was priceless.
Well, to me, it's kind of like, yes, a two-phase.
My nostalgia as a kid is to Browning because we had our old Browning shotguns and still have a lot of them.
You know, they're mechanized.
You know, a lot of them are worn out.
but they were passed down from Grandpa to you, to us.
And you know what's weird out is like when I go,
every once in a while,
I go to the Vegas show where all the hunters,
the shot show.
I haven't been to that in 20 years.
How is it now?
When I see the people that we were with with with Browning,
oh,
hey, it's big hugs.
It's not personal.
The customer loses that.
And they're like,
oh, it's just a business decision.
You know,
we let them shoot some of our guns.
It was great.
And then we moved on.
In fact, to tell you that, it's true.
We've actually been with Benelli twice.
Right.
So not too long ago, they've started, Browning has started reproducing some of the old guns that I love, the A5 and some of those, in the newer, you know, gas operated model.
By the way, I recommended to them Browning Arms, what you just said.
I said, you need to build an A5.
Don't do away with the A5.
It was all machine steel.
Right.
Well, the old tool and die people got older.
Plus, they just left those.
And he's got to where it was very expensive to build.
So they said, we're going to do away with it.
I said, don't do that.
I said, whatever you do, I said, that's your.
Well, and to show you that.
I said, you're heading in the wrong.
Well, they made a replica of it.
I said, build an A5 like shotgun instead of the barrel recall.
I said, have you have your spring back in the stock like Pinelli and all of
them. I said, put your spring back in the back. I don't forget the first guy's name, Mr. Browning,
but he figured out that barrel recall. But I told them, I said, put your spring in the back like
Benetle and them do. I said, but at least make it look like. Well, old A5, I said, and you'll do
a lot better. Well, they did. A decade went by, and they didn't take me up on it. But after about
a decade, somebody must have stood up one time. I think maybe that old boy had something there.
No, he probably just waited for them to forget.
They built an A5.
That was his idea.
That's right.
And they sent me one of them down here.
Well, no, that's what I was going to tell.
So I run across one of the guys that we used to do business with.
And I had seen the shotgun.
I said, man, I'm so excited.
I mean, that's my all-time favorite gun is my original A-5.
And he was like, well, let me send you a few.
And I was like, yeah, sure.
You know, I mean, he knew we were with Benelli.
So he sent me a handful of them, and that's why we have one.
But it's so there's a great relationship.
But Benelli is kind of the new.
one because we've used we've been using theirs and there's they're good gun they're both good
gun i still like the m2 is my favorite out of those yeah i have m2 it's a really we're all happy so
i hope that answered your question so that and by the way somebody else asked we usually
use 12 gauges so i use the 20 somebody asked me what gauge shot i mean we have different i have
every gauge yeah but you mostly shoot a 12 yeah i do but i mean what about the the year you shot
the 10 gauge i got off the 10 gauge due to injuries i mean that thing i'm that they stump them
muddle.
They probably come up with a way where it not to kick so hard.
But I'm going to tell you, that's literally like getting hit by Tyson 25 times a day.
If you shoot them, I mean.
Your shoulder is blue the next day.
You can say, well, it's just quam.
And then you've got to gather yourself.
Yeah.
Cawam, gather yourself.
We opted to be better at duck call and call him in closer.
Yeah, size shooting a 28 gauge now, which is basically a pop gun.
But he claims he kills everything.
Yeah, letting him do something.
feel like he's involved. You've got to remember a whole DVD was devoted to Sy the art of claiming
ducks. That's right. He's alone on the title. That's an interesting one. All right, let's take another
break. All right. So here's the next question I had. We'll save this other one because it's a
little more in depth. But I thought this was interesting. I don't remember who sent it. But someone
asked me, why would Joshua clear the promised land of all the
you know, heathens, in quote, you know, all the people that were there, if the people were going to
come in and, you know, the Israelites would come in and then they would all wind up doing the same
thing. Why would God just clear out the other ones if they're going to come in and turn out doing
the exact same thing? I feel like I've just, I've just sat down to the middle of a story.
I'm not even familiar with this story. Well, let me set it up. So this is what I told. I actually
responded to him. So God promised the land of Canaan to Abraham. He was like, you know,
this is the land I'm going to give you. So you remember Abraham leaves in Genesis 12. And so he starts
on his trek. Well, he never, you know, he didn't, they were still warring around. You know,
it wasn't all under control until way after the Israelites came out. So this is like 400 years later.
And so Joshua gets there with the second generation of slaves because all the others died out in the
desert and basically started at Jericho and just went through and topple the whole country.
But God gave it to him. He said, clear them out. Don't leave any of them there. I don't want
any false gods left in here. You clean everything out. Everybody that's in there, it needs to be
gone. So what's his question? So his question is, but then, so what happens is they get in there.
Everything's starting out great. Everybody loves Joshua, loves God. And then we just go about
three or four generations. And they become the people that were there. They started following
you know, the bales and all the different deals.
So that sounds like a Democratic Republic once upon a time that is not but 244 years old.
And for some strange reason, they've deserted God.
That's right.
And decide that communism is a good.
Your story is a perfect example of what men do, including now.
So it's probably, I always view it from a macro.
I mean, I'm like, no matter what happened in the Old Testament, there's a need for Jesus.
to offer redemption and resurrection.
Yeah.
Well, the answer to the question is, but it's a good question in the sense of, you know,
it has implications, but you've got to look at it like this.
When you try to look at it and say, why would God do this,
immediately you're entering waters that are not good for human beings.
Yeah.
You can never figure out.
You know what I'm saying?
Because each human still has the ability to,
choose God or not.
That's exactly right. God knows that.
Somebody said, why did he do it if he knew they were going to sin?
I mean, if he knew they were going to rebel again, have there ever been a group of human
beings who didn't start sending?
Well, you remember we had a question a few podcasts ago where it says, why would God
even make us if he knew we were going to sin?
So it's the same concept.
You can't put yourself in God's place to try to figure something like that out.
The Hall of Faith, as you notice in the book of Hebrews, how, it is.
It's not a very long read.
It's one chapter.
You know what I'm trying to say?
That's right.
The list was not lengthy.
But they had it more difficult than we do because they had no grace and they had no resurrection.
They were just having to deduct all this.
I mean, trust me, if I'd have been in the Old Testament, I'd probably been out too.
Well, because you're like, do what now?
Do you mean we talk about it?
Well, you have spoken the truth, my son, because everyone who is under the law is under the
law is under a curse.
You're like, it's, uh, it's tough when you, when you're going with, with the law.
Can you imagine being in a civilization where there's absolutely no hope?
Now, people look at us.
One violation condemns.
Yeah.
Well, you just summed up what nonbelievers think.
Right.
Because it's hopeless.
I mean, we, we've figured this out.
You know, someone shared it with us and we're like, oh, I don't have to be miserable.
I actually can have a purpose.
I know where I came from.
I know what my purpose is,
and I for sure know where I'm headed.
But people without that,
they're just trying to figure out
if there's a God and if there is,
what is his plan here?
Because that's why they come up with the same question.
Well, how come all this bad stuff's going on
if there's a God?
Which is basically where this kind of question is coming from
because it's not making sense.
But you got to understand.
There's two simple answers.
One is God made a promise to Abraham this was going to happen.
So that's the first reason it happened.
One thing you can count on God, when there's a promise made in the scriptures, it's going to happen.
We talked about that on a previous one because that doesn't seem like a big deal to us.
But if you think about eternity, you can't have a being who says, okay, if you, you know, I'm going to come down there, die for you, save you,
and I'm going to save you forever.
You can't have a being who is capable of going back on his word
because we're talking about eternity here.
Because most people tend to think,
well,
we get up there for a few thousand years,
and then this all starts again,
because, you know,
he changes his mind.
Well,
I mean,
that's just a way we think
because we can't relate to eternity.
That's right.
So we start saying,
well,
why did he do this?
Our final word on everything,
we find that difficult.
Humans don't like the final word.
So he made a,
a point that when I say something, it is impossible for that not to be true. Now, you may not
see it or understand it, but it's impossible for it not to be true. And it may be generations
for you said. The other point I would make to this is, and as one who studied the Old Testament
extensively, is that even throughout that era, the judges, which is right after that, and it was bad.
I mean, there was a lot of lawlessness. You go all the way through Israel's history,
One principle is always there.
And it actually started back at Noah.
There's always a remnant of the godly.
No matter how bad the society gets, no matter how much stuff there.
That is true.
Because you remember Elijah got to the point where he was like, I'm the only one left.
And so you might as well just take me because we're done here.
And then he remember what he told him?
He's like, no, I still got 7,000.
But think about that out of a whole nation.
That wasn't many.
He said, I still got 7,000 waiting on you.
That's why I've been saying here lately.
Everybody needs to remember, I'm guessing it at a million, give or take a few who are in the streets with all this nonsense and all this vile, filth and sinful behavior.
But that leaves, there's roughly 325 million of us, whatever that number is, but that leaves 324 million.
Right.
What's their thinking?
When they're viewing, what we're all viewing in modern day, all this protesting and riots and fires and burning and murders, you're like, what in the world?
You would tend to say the whole thing is collapsing.
But you need to remember, there's 324 million that are watching the million, and they have a decision to make.
Do I join that, or do I steer clear of that, live by faith?
I know this.
All, this is Galatians 3, verse 10.
All, that's everybody, all who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written.
Cursed is everyone.
Here's all you have to do, ladies and gentlemen.
Curs it is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the book of the law.
All you have to do is be sin free.
Never make a mistake and you're good.
If not one little mistake, you're under a curse.
Death, death.
In that context, when Jesus shows up and says,
I will deliver you and nail the law to the cross,
what's amazing is there a lot of people out there now
that are still saying, we're under the law of Moses.
That's the last place you want to be.
You just don't want to be there.
Let's take one last break.
That was actually the last question was about that, Dad.
The question was from Zacharias, how does, when Matthew 5, when Jesus said, do not think I've come to abolish the law or the prophets, I've come, not come to abolish, but to fulfill them.
Yep.
That what did he mean by that?
Because it sounds like, from his perspective, it sounds like that law is good.
Jesus didn't say, you know, I came here to abolish it, to fulfill it.
So does law continue on into Christianity?
So that's kind of the, you know, he has several questions underneath.
it, but that's kind of his gist. So how did Christ fulfill the law?
He did something that the human race has never done. He kept it. He kept it, which meant he loved
perfectly, never makes a mistake, turns around and dies. Before this faith came, that's Jesus
and his death, peril, and resurrection. We were held prisoners by the law. I'm quoting Galatians
3, verse 23, ladies and gentlemen.
locked up until faith should be revealed.
Who's going to deliver us from the law that we never kept?
So the law was put in charge.
Here's the purpose to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith.
Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.
I don't know how much clear you can make it out.
Well, because the point is it's not the – Paul said the law is good and holy.
There's nothing wrong with the law.
What was wrong was we couldn't keep the law.
That is it.
So the failure was not in the standard.
The failure is in the people.
So sometimes people misunderstand that because it sounds like where you're saying, well, you're saying law is bad.
No, Paul said law is good.
Law is holy.
Sure.
There's nothing wrong with the law because God came up with it.
I think what people are missing is that –
in what we say about the law, we're not under law.
He canceled the code.
He nailed it to the cross.
Nailed it to the cross.
So somebody reads, well, he fulfilled it.
What does that mean?
What you got to remember is when we talk about we're not under law,
well, yeah, we're under laws,
but we're not under law as the motivation for why we do what we do.
You know, when you quote Romans 12,
12, in view of God's mercy, offer your bodies as living sacrifices.
So I think you got a, that's a factor in this, is that, okay, you can make a point about the law is still here because people are breaking it.
Right.
And because people say, well, he didn't.
How can there not be a law if people are still breaking it?
So technically, oh, yeah, people are living under law.
Look, I'll tell you this right now, there's a lot of church buildings that they're living under law.
That's obvious.
Because you break one of the rules and you'll find.
find yourself in a closed-door meeting being tongue lashed. So I've heard. And so I think that's the
one thing is that it's not, that won't, the reason you read that if you only break one of them,
then you're guilty of breaking all of it is if you try to live your life trying to keep the law
as a basis for righteousness, or even a few of them, you're going to be disappointed. That's why
you're disappointed. And so you say, you know what, I'm going to love Jesus because he fulfilled the law,
is all that means is he kept it and died for those who didn't.
That's it.
There's the fulfillment.
So you say, well, why do I go technically keep the law?
Because I love Jesus.
Right.
I mean, there's some things that are right and wrong, and I'm doing the ones that are right,
only because I love Jesus.
Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
Because through Christ Jesus, the law of the spirit of love,
life, it dispenses justice, but it's through your faith in Jesus, as old Jace is saying.
The law of the spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death.
What the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature.
You're right now.
Nothing wrong with the code.
No, code's fine.
But there's a whole lot of wrong with us.
So it was weakened by the sinful nature.
Here's what God did.
God did by sending his own son and the likeness of sinful man.
Look, he was a human.
So you're like, well, how'd he do with the law?
He kept it.
Yeah.
He kept it.
Every jot and tittle.
He, the likenesses is to be a sin offering, Jesus.
And so he condemns sin and sinful man in order that the righteous requirements of the law,
which is 100% flawless obedience, might be fully met enough.
because he kept it. It is made in us. Through our faith in him, it's given to us. It was a wonderful thing that God did through Jesus Christ regarding the law. Because we don't live according to the sinful nature, but according to the spirit. We simply trust God and try, and you say, well, how will I know the results of people who are not under the law? How would I spot them? See if they love.
love, see if they're full of joy, see if they bring peace, love, joy, people, patient, kindness, goodness,
faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.
You said those are the ones who live by the spirit right there.
I want to say this, I know we've got to go, but, you know, that question came from the sermon on the
Mount, and I think the biggest yonder class I ever did was what I'm fixed to share with you
in less than a minute because people thought, what?
They yawned on your Jace.
Didn't get it.
Because I went to the sermon on the mount to try to share with them that we're not under law.
Well, they're like, and he goes through all these situations, you say you're not an adulterter,
but I tell you, you can't even think about, you know, a woman in that way.
They're like, well, that seems contrary.
And my point was that Jesus's whole point was you're not going to keep the law.
because even if you think you do, I know what's going on in secret, and you're not keeping the law.
So he comes down to the last verse on that in chapter 5, and it says, be perfect, therefore,
your heavenly father is perfect.
It's a really controversial verse because nobody in the religious world wants to tackle that.
They're like, be perfect, do that.
Well, we can't do that.
But they're missing the point that it's as your heavenly father, he was introducing this idea.
of a relationship.
He was getting off the law on to, as you look at the father, that's your motivation.
Because trust me, you're not going to be perfect.
But some of these people, they're like, no, it says be perfect.
Well, if it says that, we're all screwed.
Yep.
Because that ain't going to happen.
So then people like, oh, and then he spends the next chapter talking about,
I see what's going on in secret, which the point is, he knows your heart.
And if you're trying to take a code and implement it in your life and be good,
you're going to be very disappointed and you're probably not going to make it.
Which to prove that point, Paul said in 2nd, Corinthiansthus 12, in my weakness, is what I made perfect.
Remember when he said that, talking about himself?
Which is another thing that makes no sense to the legalistic mind.
Right, because he was saying, and look, he was the legalist of legalists.
The bottom line is it's not about you, it's about Jesus, and don't fret if you're sincerely mistaken.
That's why I told you the story.
I was 10 feet from my brother, and I'd have bet $10,000 that it wasn't him.
Guess what?
And so was that was his son.
I didn't know it.
We were wrong.
So when you hear these types, it happens.
It happens.
When you hear these types of days, they say, maybe I need to get off the code and get more on Jesus.
Yeah.
I like it.
Thanks for the questions.
Keep them coming.
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