Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 1142 | Jase Woos Missy with a Handyman Hack & How to See Your Purpose in God’s Design

Episode Date: August 11, 2025

Jase earns a “Mr. Fix-It” award from Missy when YouTube helps him rescue her from car trouble, a fate coincidentally shared by Zach when he forgets to gas up his minivan. The guys dive into the deeper meaning of the Greek word telos, exploring Jesus’ love as the ultimate purpose and fulfillment of God’s design. They connect this with Paul’s writings on knowing God and choosing life over death, highlighting our calling to glorify God and enjoy Him forever.  In this episode: 1 Corinthians 8, John 13, Galatians 4, Romans 6, Romans 10, Deuteronomy 30, Colossians 2, Romans 13, Isaiah 28, 2 Thessalonians 1 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashame. We're kind of excited because this is our last podcast. We got a little break coming up. A couple of little trips, Jay's, you're taking, and I'm taking a trip. Zach's already had a vacation. I guess he's getting two for the price of one.

That's what happens when you run the after. I'll still be working. I'll still be working. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, I actually thought yesterday was a day off for me, which turned out not to happen because what happened was, she knew I was fixed to have a day off. So she, in her mind, she's like, she saw opportunity to clean up some things, carry off things that she no longer finds, I guess they're eye. eyesores, you know.

They call that a honey-do list. Yeah, there you go. That's it. Well, I got a new grill. I met a guy, long story short. He was like, you know, I can fix your grill there because it, it was all the, well, what are they called? The grates? Yeah.

All the grates were rusting out. And he was like, well, I can fix that. And I was like, well, how much are you going to charge me? He's like, well, tell me, duck hunting. You know, it's one of those kind of deal. So it's fine with me. So, Al, you know how we were raised. So I just took all the old grates and just...

Layed them right there next to it. Yeah. It's just a big pile of wire rusted. So that was the honeydew that I created. And so when I got up, she was like, look, if you'll... And what was fascinating, she's like, if you'll put those in the back of my grand wagoneer, which is, you know, her first new car. We've been together a long time, and we never could afford a new car.

And so I did that for not too long ago. And she said, but I don't want, you know, any of the debris to be in my car. So it was a pretty good project because it was a lot of metal. And every time you moved one of them, it just rust pieces would fall off. So when I went to open up her trunk, You know, now you've got to push a button to do anything in our modern technology world. Well, I pushed the button. Nothing happened.

And I thought, this is embarrassing because I hate to go ask her, how do I get in this thing? So I thought maybe the key fob had to be around it or what, you know, we're going through that process. Long story short, door won't open. And so she's like, what in the world? well then she gets in the car and tries to crank it well it won't crank and I'm like how could the battery you know have been drained you know in our in the way I look at life before modern technology you probably left something on so this turned into a couple of hours trying to figure out what is the problem but it led me to think well what do you do

when a car won't crank. What do you do? Call her redneck. But a car won't crank? Yeah. No, I didn't have to call a redneck. No, you get some jumper cables. All right, there you go. That's what I thought. I said, okay, let me, and I got, because she's parked in the carport, so you can't get another

vehicle beside it, but I bought the world's longest pair of jumper cables a few years ago for this. That's a good, that's a redneck mood, Jay. Yeah, that's a man who knows. I could jump my truck off from right. here. These things just go into oblivion.

That's a valuable commodity right there. So here's what, here's, here's where their story gets crazy. So I pull my daughter's car up there. I get everything connected. And then when I go to crank it, it, it goes, it tried to crank, but wouldn't crank. I was like, well, this doesn't make any sense. I was like, well, maybe it was really dead. but she drove it the day before.

I was like, how dead could it be? So then I revved up the other car thinking, you know, kicking the alternator. I mean, I went a 20-minute deal, but every time I tried to crank it, the same thing. It just wouldn't crank. And so I thought, this has to do something with modern technology, because there's no reason why this shouldn't crank. So I have to do what my dad would say, never do. I had to get the black box out and say, you know, having trouble cranking Grand Wagon Air, please help.

So when I read this paragraph, it was so interesting because it's the problems that it could be. Well, I excluded all of them except it said it may be your key fob, which I didn't know, you know, really this is how this word has become a word describing. I mean, this, I guess I have a key fob, right? This is for my truck. And so they said, so what you do is your battery may be out on the key fob. So I told Missy, well, do you have another key fob? Well, she brings it out. Same thing.

Tried to crank, but wouldn't. I thought, what are the odds of both batteries being out? This is probably not it. But it says, but you can try this. You can try to crank the vehicle by pushing the key foe. into the ignition. There's no key. You just, you know, you have a button now.

You push. Yeah, like a little slot. Like you put like a A-track tape in the, well, it took me 10 minutes to figure out because I was like, I pushed every button on this thing. Yeah. But, no, they meant, and so then I had to watch a video of someone doing it.

And look, there's a guy, has a video on YouTube. He takes this fob. a fill of yon coming on from zay and pushes the ignition with the key fob and i was embarrassed to try that but that's what he did when i did that the car cranked up so what does that mean that it was out of batteries that means that's why i'm telling this story because there's two things that happened in that moment the look on my wife's face because she's staying there's and him beside the vehicle when that car cranked up because she said that that's not going to work but i had just watched a video and i saw a guy do it and just like that that won't you're put you're

gonna what's the difference in your finger and the fob oh that was a difference that's why i thought i should share this to the world because who would know this who would know that if your battery goes out on a key fob that you can push the actual fob into the ignition button and it will crank. So it's not like a slot for the key fob. You're literally just like touching the button. You press it down with the key fob. So look, but no, the lesson is the number two,

because I've shared my role in our family. I'm a destructive individual. I'm not a fixer. I can't fix anything. And so my wife usually handles it, But this was way over her head. You know, we got Jumping Cave. She don't like the spark.

She's hollering, you know, because I was like, maybe the connection's bad, sparks are flying. She's screaming, you know. I mean, don't hurt yourself. Like, this is normal. This is, I'm good right now. But when I did that, well, it made me look like Mr. Fixer. Because now I'm like, yeah, it's a moment.

It's a moment. It's, I mean, cue the band, fireworks. I fix them. than yesterday, which made me feel better about spending about four hours, you know, under the hood of a car. So your day off was looking up YouTube video. Yeah, I just found that fascinating. You can figure anything out on YouTube.

I was, so my car, I rented a car because I was just, y'all know, Bear flipped my trucks. I had a rental, and it was a van. That's what they gave me a minivan. and so I was driving up the road and this has never happened to me but I don't know why I did this is my fault but I ran out of gas in the minivan It's not your fault

Well hold let's back up break that sentence down No it is your fault No it is not my fault But I ran out of gas Did I say it's not my fault? Oh that's what you said It's not my fault Oh that is my fault

Make a song out of it It is my fault It's not my fault It's not my fault I don't know why I said that I ran out of gas What I meant to say I just, I don't know why I never, that's never happened to me.

I run out of gas and I'm turning and I literally, I was like, I can get into this parking lot. I can coast into the parking lot. But hey, there's a new thing on these vehicles now. When they go dead, they go dead. Like it just stops. Mobility stops. And it immediately goes in the park. And then I'm like, well, I can't get this thing in neutral.

But I'm in between two lanes. I'm literally in the dead center of the road. mode and everybody's coming and they're like trying to fit and so the traffic stops they're all honking yelling at me to get out of the way as if I have a choice in the matter and I'm like and I can't figure out how to get this thing in neutral I mean I'm like I don't know how to get the car in neutral this isn't the old school like but you don't put this in neutral if the car goes dead it's stuck in its position and so what are you doing a situation like that well the first thing I did was I got my phone out. I got on YouTube and I typed in how to put a Chrysler minivan,

whatever model it was, Pacifica, in neutral if it's, if the, if you, if the car is like, if it's turned off and won't turn on. And what I learned is if people are honking at you, you're in the middle of the road and you're watching videos. I'm watching a YouTube video. I wish the cops. I wish the cops will show up. Me too. I mean, what, what, what, what, what, what I learned is, from the YouTube video is your key has a little button on it. You push that button in it like a metal key comes out. He said, what's that metal key for? Because there's no place for that to go.

Right. I thought, well, so the only point of the metal key is there's a little thing in the dashboard. You could just prize this little pops this thing open and a rope falls out. And what you do is you pull the rope. And when you pull the rope, your car's in neutral. And it starts rolling backwards because I was on a hill. And so I did that. I pulled the rope falls out.

I popped the little thing off. The rope falls out. I pull the rope. And now I'm in neutral. And I roll back into the parking lot. We should make a movie about this. Yeah. It's exciting.

Things that your car does that you didn't know and just have each scene. Because they'd be funny. Because you were an inch away from living in a van by the river for the rest of your life. And if the cops would have came, your first line would have been. It's not my fault. Not my fault. Which probably would have led to handcuffs. We were getting close.

But I didn't know what you told me. See, now I know if the key five runs out, we just, we touch it right there on the push in the. Well, what's weird is I had just seen a good movie. And look, I say that shockingly because the movies out there are so bad. They are. They're on about a five-year run, but they're just unwatchable. But my son, he was like, Dad, got to go watch this movie. And nothing about it made me want to go watch it.

It was, had Brad Pitt in it. It was called F1. Oh, yeah, I've seen it advertised. Look. Now, it's always dangerous to say, oh, I saw a good movie. It was cleaner than 95% of the movies out there today. But they had their token, two F words in the, in, you know, a little escapade. paid with Brad Pitt and some woman that wasn't his wife.

But having said that, even that, overall, wasn't as bad as normal. But I think they have to put that in there just because of where it's coming from. But overall, it was a clean movie. And at the theater, it was exhilarating. I mean, it's good. But so it kind of got me fired up about engines and, you know, running and going fast. And it was a well-done movie. So maybe that was part of that, figuring that out, but it was a good day.

Because you were in the car zone after watching that movie. You were like, yeah. Well, speaking of good movies, the blind is coming back out. We're going to do like a re-release on August 31st. I think it's going to run like four or five days in the theaters, Fathom Call, and wanted to re-release it. So, yeah, we want to try to get people to the theaters who don't know, Jesus. And so, or who wouldn't step into

a church? Like, get them to watch this movie. If you want to get information on that, you can go to the website, theblindmovie.com. Again, that's theblindmovie.com. And you guys can sign up for emails and stuff. But yeah, we're excited about that. It's funny you say that

because I thought about Phil. He always said, you know, call a redneck, but now technology has got so sophisticated. Well, what kind of redneck would know? to start a car that won't crank, you have to push a key fob or to put it neutral,

you have to pull the hatch, pull the rope. I mean, who would know them? Well, I actually wasn't actually 100% accurate. The first thing I did was I called a redneck. Before I did the YouTube, I called a guy. Oh, you left that part out. I did. Well, I forgot about that because he never answered the phone, and I knew my buddy Stu would know how to do it. And I said, Stu, he'll know how to do it because he's my mechanic. He fixes all my stuff. He's awesome.

I said, Stu would know how to do it. I called Stu, and he didn't answer. So then I end up essentially using a database where you can access any redneck that you want in the world. So that's what YouTube has become. Direct access. It made me think, though, it's kind of like trying to live like Jesus if you don't know, know Jesus. Well, how would you know what to do if you didn't know him,

which is what I keep going back to? Which what's strange in the Bible is every time Paul, not every time, because I haven't looked that closely, but when he would say like the verse that says those who

those who will be punished where is that second that's alone is one he will punish those who do not know God but there's other passages where he'll say I mean I'll find what is the way as you're looking for that we've lost Al

he is evaporated from the screen. So he must be. I heard thunder in the background. So I think he, I bet you he lost power. So we're going to keep going without Al.

And if he wants to jump back in he may jump in awkwardly. All right. So here's what I was going to say. All right. So like 1 Corinthians 8. I just think this is fascinating. He brings up,

they're having this controversy about whether you should as a Christian eat food that has been sacrificed to idols. So he says, we know that we all possess knowledge. Now it has a little letter above the word knowledge.

So let me look down and see what the alternate to that is. Or we all possess knowledge as you say. Okay. Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up. Well, this is a perfect place to go because we're in John 13, and he's showing the full extent of his love by washing their feet. The man who thinks he knows something does not yet know as he ought to know. Well, that was me yesterday working on the car.

I thought I knew how to start a car that wouldn't crank, but I didn't know what I ought to know. But the man who loves God, well, here's the point I was getting to, is known by God. Yeah. So then about eating food, sacrificed idols, we know that an idol is nothing at all in the world, and there is no God but one. For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, as indeed there are many

gods and many lords. Yet for us, there's but one God, the Father, from whom all things came, and for whom we live. And there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through him all things came, and through him we live. My point was, though, he turns it around and says, knowing God is being known by God. Yeah. Now, look, I'm going to give you another example, because it's hard to wrap your head around this.

So Galatians, he does the same thing. Chapter 4, verse 8. Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not God. It's just like what I just read in 1st Corinthians 8. But now, watch, this is 4-9 of Galatians, that you know God, and then he stops and puts a little caveat. Or rather are known by God.

How is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Don't you find that fascinating? Yeah, it is interesting. Why does he keep doing that? So my point is, I think when Jesus starts off a phrase in John 13, because he's revealing that he and the Father are one. So he's expressing the character of God so they will know God.

Yeah. And Jesus is God in human beings. form as God in human form. So he starts off in John 13, because I know Al wanted to talk about this, so we're going to do it. So when he says in verse, when he says in verse one, having loved his own, so he knew he was fixed to go back to the father. And then he said, having loved his own who were in the world, he now showed them the full extent of his love.

Now there's a different variation of that verse which says, or he loved them to the end or uttermost. So having loved his own who were in the world, he now showed them having loved them to the end.

Well, Al wanted to get into what that word end means, which the Greek word, I pulled it up, is I'm terrible with it. pronunciation on this. Well, this is easy. Tellos. So that word is a little deeper than what we use is the word end. Because I've said many times, like I told you, I watched that movie. What separates us in Jesus is the story of Jesus, there's never a time where it says the end.

Because he's eternal. We're resurrected, which I think is kind of funny. I mean, that's why being in Jesus is way more beneficial. There's no end, but the Greeks in their language use this word as end, but it's not really meaning what we think of when we hear the end. When you think of the end, you think of like the way you just referenced it there was more like on a chronological timeline. And so we're at the end of the movie or the end of the book and what we mean, about that is that we're finished. But what the word

Tellos actually means is more of the end as in what's the end of the, what's the end goal? Another way to say it is what's the purpose, what's the intent? Here's all the words you could use. What's the design?

So like an apology. So put that in though when Jesus, so look, when he was on the cross. Yeah. He said, let me find exactly where that is because I noticed that that was one of the words where it's used. When it says it's finished. Yeah, he said it is finished. Yeah, so it's also used in Mark 13 when it's talking about the whole prophecy where Jesus

is talking about the coming of the destruction of the temple. It uses that same word telos and part of it. And so for me it's... Well, I want to say this because he uses a variation. of tellos when he says it's finished it's not the exact but it's a variation of that I said so for me the way that it's helpful to understand is because in I did a lot of years I spent a lot of years of my life really diving deep into apologetics which is a branch of Christian a branch of Christian theology that seeks to defend the true claims of the Bible

and there's different variations of how we engage in apologetics it doesn't mean apologize. It means actually to defend. That's funny. That's funny. But one of the arguments is called the teleological argument, and it comes from that word, tell us.

What it means is it's an argument from design. And so what these apologists have done is they looked at the design in the universe. And there's a ton of stuff that you can look at, like this thing called the Anthropic Princess. and I mean, even the way that, I mean, it's really mind-boggling when you see how the universe operates and you're like, wow, this looks like there was a designer behind all this. So for me, when I hear that word, tell us it's very easy for me to grasp that because I spent

so much time studying this argument that when you hear it in the context of what Jesus is saying here, you have to think in terms of what's the intent, what's the purpose, what's the design, what is all, why, what is all this about in Jesus is. saying he loved them to the, like, in that vein to the end of their purpose. Like he's connecting it all. But see, I think it's important. The reason I think this is important, and I think Al agreed, is because he previews his death, barrel, and resurrection in that he said he's fixing to leave

and go back to the father. He shows them the full extent of his love. and then that statement where he says he knew that the father had put all things in his hands and that he had come from God and he was returning to God. You can't have it just about he's fixed to die, which was a display of his love. He's just about washing their feet. That was a shadow of the cross and the resurrection. I think we've done a pretty good job of showing how the resurrection is a display of his love also

because love is eternal since love is God. Part of knowing God is realizing that God knows you and love you. Think about when in Romans 5 where it says while we were God's enemies, Christ died for you. I mean, you're tapping into the eternal love. aspect of God. And so one of the verses that that word is used, this is an easy one to understand. So like Romans 10 in verse 4, it says, and I think this Romans 10 is interesting, but verse 4 says

Christ is the end of the law. Well, we still have the law. I mean, we're still for me. Is it the same? Is that the same? Is it the tell us? Oh, there's tell us. Christ is the end of the law, which is my point.

That's interesting. Because, yeah, there's actually, when you, we're never saying that the God of the Old Testament's bad and that Jesus came in and replaced that whole thing. It's not replacement theology. It's a continuation of grace as it always has been. And I think to the point, when you say Jesus is the end of the law, it's not. If you're looking at it, Jesus came in, oh, he replaced that. It's not a replacement.

It's an end. It's a fulfillment of. Well, let me give you another one before you give that illustration. So, like, fascinatingly enough, in Romans 6, where he says, I mean, this is crazy how he uses this, because I think whatever illustration you're fixing to give may apply to this. Because it's hard to wrap your head around. That's why we're doing it. Let me get the exact.

So 21 and 22 of Romans 6. And you remember this, us now participating in the death, barrel, and resurrection of Jesus. He's talking about you were baptized into his death. We were therefore buried. We were therefore raised. That whole logic. And it goes in with the liberation of why he's washing the feet during the Passover feast of his disciples. Well, he just went through that about being.

slaves. Yeah. So he uses the same terminology. Remember when it gets to verse 15, he says, shall we sin because we are not under law, but under grace by no means, which eventually he's going to say in Romans 10, we just read it, Christ is the end of the law. So watch, don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey? This would make no sense if you didn't realize the whole history of the Jewish nation where they were slaves of Egypt. He liberates them. He does it through sacrifice, the Passover lamb. He does it through judgment on Egypt by their firstborn dying.

And then what happened? Liberation. They were freed. So that's the same vein. But now he's talking about what Jesus accomplished because then it says whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death. or to obedience, which leads to righteousness. But thanks be to God, that though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obey the form of teaching which you're entrusted.

So when he gets to verse 21 and 22, he uses that same word, tell us. And I'll start in verse 20. When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. What benefit did you reap at the time? from the things that you are now ashamed of. Those things result. Well, look, same word, tell us in death. So the end of you being controlled by sin is death.

And then in verse 22, it says, but now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness. Look, and the result, the tellos, the end is eternal life. So that's what the word means, but it's used all over the place in different contexts. Yeah, I think one of the most important questions you can ever ask, well, one is obviously who is God for sure. But then I think a second one that you could ask is, who am I?

What is man? What does it mean to be a human? What is the end of our humanity, not the end of it in the sense that we chronologically, but what is the end? What's our tell us? What's our purpose? What's the, and you know, the Westminster Confession asked this question, what is the chief end of man? And what those guys said was it's to glorify God and enjoy him forever.

And I think a good scripture to kind of point that out, like what is my purpose? If you think about that in your life, because that, by the way, you do a sermon or, or any kind of series on what is my purpose, finding your purpose, finding your calling. In fact, we put that as a title episode. I bet you this episode will do good, identifying our calling. What is my purpose? Everybody wants to know that. But that passage you mentioned earlier really gives us, the one in Second Thessalonians, Chapter 1,

it gives us the chief end of what we're supposed to, what we're doing. I think it's connected with what Jesus is offering up in John 13. And second, Thessalonians, one, when he said that he'll punish those who don't know God, those who don't know him and obey his gospel, and he kind of gives us description of what that punishment looks like. And what it looks like is separation. It looks like being cast out from his presence. But then he flips it.

He flips the destruction, and he goes, because to your point, the end of that is death. The end of sin is death. That's where it ends. where does the end of life in Christ in, and it ends in just that life? So that's what he's describing here when he says, to this end, we always pray for you. To this tell us that we always pray for you. I don't even know if it's the same word in verse 11, but I bet it is. That our God may make you worthy of his calling and may fulfill every resolve for good

in every work of faith by his power so that here's the purpose that the name of our lord jesus may be glorified in you and you in him so that's that reciprocal knowledge that he may know us that we may know him according to the grace of our god and lord jesus christ so i think the point is is that what christ is offering us in that participatory life in him is that he's going to be glorified in us And then we're going to be glorified in him. And that is the chief end of man to glorify God. And by doing so, enjoy him forever, which is the marveling of the saints, when it says that the saints will actually marvel at the glory of God.

Because we'll be like, wow, how amazing is he. And that'll be our, that is the prize. That's the end purpose of what we're here for. And if you're wondering, you know, while we're going this, because this sounds deep, But just think about how many times you see a guy standing on a street corner, especially in big cities, and it says the end is near. Yeah. He's getting that from the Bible, but he's only using that as the final end when Jesus comes back.

The Bible is filled with a lot of things that ended as a result of Jesus fulfilling them. And so it kind of makes you wrap your head around the whole narrative. I'm going to give you an example of this, Zach. I think you'll find this fascinating. So here's Jesus in John 13. He chooses the Passover meal to show this end as in the full completion of a display in love on why he's here. Because you asked about what is our purpose. Well, what is Jesus' purpose?

And you have to say that it kind of goes back to John 316 for God to love the world that he's sent. his one and only begotten son. He gets to John 13. He's like, let me show you the full extent or the end game of my love for you. And so you go to Romans 10, and we're trying to wrap our head around that word that he used, Telos. And we gave an example. But if you look at the whole chapter of Romans 10, it mirrors Deuteronomy 30. It's quoted three times, Deuteronomy 30 in Romans 10.

I just want to read this Romans 10, and I think you'll connect it to John 13. So he starts off in Roman 10, he says, brothers, my heart's desire and prayer to God for the Israelites. Well, we're going back to this redemption and liberation that happened, that they did not trust God, even though that happened, which is eventually why Jesus comes. but watch how this unfolds verse two for I can testify about them

that they are zealous for God but their zeal look it's this same concept is not based on knowledge they don't know him

yeah so in verse three because he's clearly not talking about because they had not they had a lot of knowledge about God I mean they knew

they knew the code they knew the Torah they back and forwards and these are the same people that are causing all the opposition when Jesus actually arrives. They're looking at him saying, no, nope, nope, nope, nope. So verse three says, since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to Christ's righteousness. When that puts in context, verse four, which says, Christ is the end of the law. So that there may

be righteousness, look, for everyone. Yeah, you could say it like this. Christ is the purpose of the law. Christ is the intent of the law. Christ is the point of the law. Christ is the point, which if you think about it, just back up just in the Romans 9, think about how Romans 9 ends. He's basically repeating himself because Roman 930 ends with this. What shall we say then? that the Gentiles who did not pursue righteousness have obtained it.

Here it is, a righteousness by faith. But Israel who pursued a law that would lead to righteousness did not succeed in reaching that law. Why? It was because of the nature of their pursuit. It was that they pursued it not by faith, but as if it were based on works, they stumbled over the stumbling stone. As it's written, behold, I'm laying in Zion a stone,

a stumbling, a rock of a fence, whoever believes in him will not be put to shame. And that verse you just read when it says, for being ignorant of the righteousness of God in verse three, the righteousness of God is the righteousness that comes through faith, not by works. Well, right. But the point is so that he can be for everyone.

Yeah. I mean, I think that's the point of Romans 9. Ironically, that's the point. And evidently it's the point of Romans 10, which, look, I get it. people read Romans 103 and they're like, well, see, you shouldn't try to establish a righteousness of your own, which is a correct statement. But his point was, you've created your own righteousness and therefore you're excluding groups of people.

Well, because if you think about what's happening in Romans 9 is you have, Paul is addressing the idea that you are saved. based on some arbitrary selection that God has made, right? You are God's chosen people, right? And that's the quote, end quote. And so therefore, you're good, don't have to worry about it. And this point is that actually you're missing what this whole thing has been about. It was always about the children of faith.

And so what Paul is doing in Romans 9, 10, and 11, in the whole book of Romans for that matter, is he's explaining what it means to be a child of Abraham, actually means you're a child that came through faith in Christ. And so that is the basis for which the Gentiles will be included into Israel, is that they will enter in through faith in Christ. Well, then the question that when you get to Romans 10 is, well, how in the world are they ever going to hear about it?

Yeah, well, it's a good question, which now, look, what are we doing? We're out telling people about Jesus. So I want to read this because the thing is, fascinating. So he goes back to Moses in verse 5. Moses describes in this way the righteousness that is by the law. The man who does these things will live by them. And that's a quote from Leviticus 18. But watch, watch. But the righteousness that is by faith says, do not say in your heart, who will ascend to heaven, that is, to bring Christ down, or who will descend into the deep, that is to bring Christ up from the dead. But what does it say? The word is near you. It is in your mouth and in your heart.

These are all quotes from Deuteronomy and I'm going to read them. Because when you read that, look, my mind just checks out. You're like, what does he mean? What does it mean to say who will ascend to heaven or who will descend into the deep? What is he? What's he talking about? Well, he's quoting a passage from Deuteronomy 30, and the only way to wrap your head around it is to actually read Deuteronomy 30, which I'm fixing to. But I want to get to verse 9, that if you confess with your mouth,

Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised in from the dead, you'll be saved. Yeah. Well, we all are familiar with that passage. So then he says in verse 10, for it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it's with your mouth that you confess and are safe. But then notice what he says.

As the scripture says, well, what scriptures are you talking about? The Old Testament. Yeah, scriptures. Is that Deuteronomy everyone who believes in verse 11? That's Isaiah 28. Isaiah 28. But then he goes again to, he quotes Deuteronomy 30 in verse 6, 7, and 8, and verse 19. I mean, think about what he's doing.

in here, Paul is using the Old Testament. I think of them. He's not using the New Testament. This is the New Testament, but at this point, they're just like, they're reading an argument from Paul from the Old Testament of how in the world are Gentiles getting included in this? How in the world is this for everybody? And what does it mean that Christ is the end of the law? And this is for everyone? So if I'll go back, I know this is a long read, and they say you should never do it.

But look, when you read Deuter Army 30 and you read Romans 10, you're like, oh, wow, I get it. So let me read Deuter Army. And then you got to connect it back to John 13 because I don't know where you're going to do that, but we'll see. Well, because I think Jesus used that in a love setting preview in the death, bell, and resurrection, which is Paul is doing the same thing. I got you. Yeah, that's what's happening there. I'm saying,

I'm saying John 131 through 3. That is a preview of what's fixing to happen and of all things. He then gets down on his knees. Here's the creative universe becoming human and washes the disciples' feet and even washes the guy who's fixed to betray him and cause him out on it

as a preview to what's fixed to happen in this new liberation, creation, new humanity that's going to live forever with him. I mean, I'm just telling you, when you put all these pieces together, it gives you an idea of what this whole book is about from cover to cover. So I'm going to read Deuteronomy 30, and this is after their liberation from Egypt, and they're wandering around in the wilderness, and what they do, they start complaining and what's going on.

watch what he says in Deuter Army 30. When all these blessings and curses I have set before you come up on you and you take them to heart, and you say, what are the blessings and the curses? And we've done this before in other podcasts. Look, if you trust me, I'll bless you. But if you don't, you're going to be cursed. That's the narrative. So he says, wherever the Lord your God disperses you among the nations.

and when you and your children return to the Lord your God and obey him with all your heart and with all your soul, that sounds just like what we read in Romans 10, 9. If you confess with your mouth, well, and at this point, Jesus hasn't come on the scene, but he's given the same idea. And with all your soul, according to everything I command you today, then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes and have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where he scattered you. Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens.

From there, the Lord your God will gather you and bring you back. So there's some way that he's going to bring you back from you not wanting to trust him by the words he's spoken. Might be that the book of John, when he says the word became flesh, now Jesus is this word. You say? Yep. He will bring you to the land that belong to your fathers, and you will take possession of it. He will make you more prosperous and numerous than your fathers. The Lord your God.

Now he brings up circumcision. We'll circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants. Well, does that sound familiar in the New Testament? Colossians 2. God will, through Jesus, circumcise your heart. Jesus will cut off your old sinful self. Read Colossus 2. So that you may love him with all your heart,

and with all your soul and live. The Lord your God will put all these curses on your enemies who hate and persecute you. You will again obey the Lord and follow his commands. I'm giving you today. What are commands? Words from God, the law. All right.

Then the Lord your God will make you the most prosperous in all the work of your hands and in the fruit of your womb. You skip down the next sentence. The Lord will again do. delight in you and make you prosperous. If you obey the Lord, verse 10, your God, and keep his commands and decrees that are written

in this book of the law and turn to the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Now it makes more sense where he said, Christ is the end of the law. He is now the word. He is the way to trust God. He's the fulfillment of the law.

Think Romans 13, where let no debt remain outstanding except the debt to continue to love. love one another. Love God with all your heart. Love your neighbor as yourself. So now watch. Look at verse 11 of Deuterremy 30. Now what I'm commanding you today is not too difficult for you or beyond your reach. It is not up in heaven. Here's this quote from Romans 10. If you have to ask, because he's saying, what I'm asking you is not too difficult or beyond your reach. it is not up in heaven so that you have to ask

who will ascend into heaven to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it nor it is beyond the sea so that you have to ask who will cross the sea to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it no the word the word is very near you it is in your mouth and in your heart so that you may obey it so you now get Romans 10 you know what he's saying

saying you don't have to go up to heaven to find it or go do a treasure hunt on the sea i've come down to the planet i came to you which then makes sense of this knowing god is being known by god because god says i know you therefore i'm going to come to you from heaven in humanity in the form of a human jesus it only makes sense if you read deuteronomy 30 but let's keep reading because look it gets better so verse 15 see i set before you today life prosperity death and destruction that's your two choices and it's the same two choices in jesus you want to prosper and you want to have life put your faith and trust in jesus if you want death and destruction continue as you have before without jesus for i command you today to love the lord your god to

walk in the ways to keep his commands decrees and laws then you will live and increase and the lord god will bless you but if your heart turns away you're not obedient and if you're drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them that's why i read the first crenthians eight and the galatians four i declare to you this day that you will certainly be destroyed you will not live long in the land verse 19 this day i call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that i have set before you life and death blessings and curses. Here's the key verse. Now choose life. Yes. So that you and your children may live and that you may love the Lord your God. Listen to his voice and hold fast to him. For the Lord is your life. And he will give you many years in the land. It's crazy that he took something that was going on there to predict what

would happen later in Jesus with the same choices and the same benefits for the choice you make or the same curse based on your choice. I mean, I just think when you look at all that and put it together and when you say Jesus is going to show you his love to the end, the end result of not having him and putting your trust in him and the consequences that follow. And Romans 10 echoes that. And all we're saying is that's how you should study the Bible and put all the pieces together and look at it globally from beginning to end.

Well, that was a lot. Man, that got me. That was really good, though. I want to go back. They won't have time, though, but I want to go back to Genesis, you know, where he talks about the goal of fruitful multiplication. Like, go be fruitful and multiply, which is what he says right here. Then you shall live and multiply. So it's a fulfillment of what God.

God originally commanded in the, what's called the cultural mandate. And then there's also the Tower of Babel reference in here that I saw. There's a lot there that Deuteronomy 30 that's interesting. But unfortunately, we're out of time. We did it without an owl. That was pretty good, Jase. Yeah, I think it was good. We'll get Al's comments the next time we come back.

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