Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 1143 | Jase Suffers an Injury from Missy’s Cast Iron Skillet & Jesus Makes the Broken Whole

Episode Date: August 13, 2025

Jase calls it a vacation, but it involved a back injury inflicted by Missy’s cast iron skillet, wiping out in an ice-cold Colorado stream, and limping through a metal-detecting frenzy that led to a rare 1797 coin discovery. Zach and Al explore Christ’s mission to touch the untouchable, heal the broken, and bring life to the desolate. Jase is moved to reflect on Jesus’ question, “Do you understand what I’ve done for you?” and the love that pursues us long before we pursue Him. In this episode: Isaiah 40, verses 28–31; John 3, verses 16–17, 31; John 7, verses 16–17, 33–34, 36; John 8, verse 14; John 10, verse 10; John 13, verses 1–3, 12–15; Acts 17, verses 24–28; 1 Peter 2, verses 21–25; Mark 5; Revelation 3, verse 9— Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashame. We are refreshed. I think so. I think we get, yeah, we're refreshed. We took a week off. When you're listed, you have no idea, because you're the system, one podcast rolls into the next. You don't know what we're doing. But we actually took a little time away. I've been humming that song. You know, I've been to Phoenix, Alabama. My dad, I've been everywhere. That's what I used to say when I started a sermon. That's Johnny Cash, yeah.

Yeah, Johnny Cash. I went to Colorado Springs. It was 80 degrees, and at night we didn't have a fire. Locally, they call it the Springs. Yeah, yeah. It's a beautiful place. So we had a little mini vacation, and we got some good friends there, the Langhoffers. We've had Trenton on the podcast.

It's been on the podcast. He used to be our pastor here. at WFR, a great young man. Me and Reed played a golf course there called the kissing camels. And so while I was playing, I was looking. The kissing camel. Oh, this place was spectacular. You're every one out there called the Iron Horse,

but I never played the kissing camel. I thought, okay, kissing cam. I kept looking for two camels kissing. Did it have like some humps out there? Well, I kept looking. I thought, where are the camels? The place was spectacular. Did you go to the Garden of the Gods?

Well, we were, it's right across from the Garden of the Gods. I love that. I had a lot of awkward conversations with people, like from the Uber drivers to shuttles talking about, look, there's actually one God. But it is little G. It's not Big G. I, at this stage of my life, the gluck, because every time I'd pass the signs of the Garden of the Gods, I said, what does that mean to you? That was my conversation.

And they're like, well, I really don't know. Just what it's always been coming. Then I would ask, where are these kissing camels at? Was there one day back in the prehistoric time of man that we saw two kissing camels up here? I'm pretty sure it's probably some part of the mountains because a couple of the places you tee off. The elevation was just so hot. You're just, you're teeing off into, it felt like the abyss. Yeah.

And what I noticed there, if you want to feel better about your game, the elevation there. Next the ball go further. Oh, way and further. I bet your boys were twilight in us. Instead of being mad about every time I flew the green and all, I'm like, I just hit that nine iron, 185 yards. How far? You felt like a pro. Not that far.

He hits at about 150 probably. No. Oh, you get an extra 40 yards out of it? Oh, it's just depends. on the wind. But those guys, they rolled out the red carpet for us. And so I'll give them a shout out. If you ever want to play a really nice course, they have 27 holes.

And so we played it. Yeah. We played it two days and different nines. It was fantastic. But most of the time, you know what's funny? I mean, I'll tell you this story in all seriousness. So, I mean, you're going on vacation. And I have my golf clubs.

and I had to go from Colorado Springs. Well, I did an event in Philadelphia. Remember, I did a little promo about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm so mad because I was going to read that. Is that Isaiah 41 about... We're going to wind up in Isaiah 41. Yeah, there's in our text.

About the soaring on the wings of Eagles, or is that 40? Yeah. I think it's 40. 40. We need to look that up. Is that 40? Yeah. Look, I had this whole... Yeah, 4.

40-31 is wings of being. It's also in Exodus 19. 40-31. I mean, it is a spectacular passage. Oh, no, we're in Psalm 41. I had the wrong tape. I was fixed us up. Yeah, Psalm 41.

Jesus quoted Psalm 41. So, yeah, they will soar on wings like eagles. They were running up. Hold on where we at? Isaiah 41? No, Isaiah 40. No, this is 40. They were sore on wings like you. Y'all got excited because I'm actually preaching on Exodus 19 on Sunday.

And, you know, that's in the Exodus 19 text as well. Well, listen to this. This was going to be my opening line when I got to the event in Philadelphia. Yeah? Because it says in Isaiah 40. I know where you're going. Oh, I was going to get the crowd. I know where you're going.

4028, it says, do you not know? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the creator of the ends of the earth. You want to talk about the Garden of the Gods? He will not grow tired or weary in his understanding. No one can fathom. He gives strength. to the weary and increases the power of the weak.

Even use grow tired and weary. This is going to become a theme to the story I'm fixed to tell. And young men, watch this close. Stumble and fall. Chase, you're not a young man. But though, oh, I'm young now. It's all relative. You get me?

I know where you're going. And a blind with, you know, my dad over the last few years and people like barely. I look like a young whippers. and sigh. Yep. But those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They were sore on wings,

and I was going to get the whole crowd to say, like Eagles, because I was in Philadelphia. Fly Eagles, fly. I'm doing this because I didn't do this. When I got up to speak, there were so many people, and I was so overwhelmed by how many people showed up at this event. Lost the whole thing,

and the Holy Spirit took over, and it wasn't, Isaiah 40 wasn't a part of it. So I'm giving it to them now who are listening because I made a lot of good friends. But they will soar, because you get it, Philadelphia. Yeah, wings like Eagles that won the Super Bowl. I was going to tell you, you want a Super Bowl? How about us gathering up to live eternally?

And fly, fly away. Oh, you want to fly like an eagle? How about with a new imperishable immortal body? I had it all ready to go. And it never came out of my mouth. Failure to launch. So they will soar on wings like Eagles. They will run and not go weird,

weary and they will walk and not be faint. So I had the perfect setup. And I'm going to tell you where this started. It started at a checkout, or not a checkout, check-in counter at an airport in Monroe, Louisiana. Right here. Yeah, we're going on a little four-day vacation. But look, I have to pack to go for four or five days to Colorado.

Well, then I'm going to go to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, where I'm not playing golf. Right. So I have golf clubs. And when I'm in Philadelphia, since it's logistically impossible to get from Colorado Springs to Philadelphia in one day. Yeah. Like if you start late in the day, I looked at my schedule. Look, my assistant, who I love, and she does great.

I hope she doesn't listen to this bike. That's fine. It was not her fault. I know. I'll tell you what happened. she's like well i have you leaving Thursday night at 10 o'clock you will arrive

Friday morning at 9 they call that the right then you will go treasure hunting because these people had said look you're going to be in philadelphia we have some property that's never been treasure hunting hunted and i get these requests all the time but there was something about this paragraph that i thought i think this sounds legit so i said this is the

former capital of the United States of America. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And there's a place right next to Philadelphia called a little place called Washington's Crossing. We're talking about George Washington.

He crossed the Delaware River. The Brits were chasing him or whatever. Oh, yeah. And this family who owns a butcher shop, I'm like, a family business, you know, called the, they're called the Ely's, but it's spelled E-L-Y. Yeah.

And I was like, wouldn't that be Eli? And he said, no, it's E-L. And so if you're in that area, it was the finest cuisine of meat I've ever participated in. So you all need to rush. I don't know where exactly it is, but go to somewhere around Washington Crossing, and there's a butcher shop with meats and cheeses that is absolutely out of this world. And look, all their family works there reminding me, look, I got chill bumps just looking around people working. Because I thought this reminds me of being a teenager with a family business.

Yeah. The nice thing we didn't have was a butcher shot. We had a fishing enterprise. God-loving Jesus-focused. The first thing they did was pray for me, you know, for the event I was going to do that night. And so I know I'm telling five stories at one time here. That's never happened. And look, so this guy, he's like, I have this place not far from here that he owned,

that had these foundations and all in the woods. And that's where I was going to go hunting. He never been hunting. I was like, well, don't tell anybody about it. But while I'm getting all my stuff ready, and which, look. So did you have to take metal detecting stuff? Well, I had my basics, but I didn't have my big detector. Yeah.

And so I reached out to Garrett, who we've been in cahoots for years. And I have, they sell a metal detector with my name on it that I love. Right. And I called them up. I was like, is it possible for y'all to send me a detector in a box there? I mean, because I'm like, people are going to take it? take pictures and I was trying to sell the idea that look I want to use your detector but I can't Zach you taking notes how to sell this oh yeah they did that which was so kind of them because I said

you know I'll probably wind up giving it to them or whatever sign it and so they did you know because I thought they were all metal detectors I thought no I went metal detecting and they just followed me around and dug the holes for me because the only thing I didn't have was a shovel I got I looked around it's like now these are the meats people that Meets people, their whole family and friends. They were just, I'm telling you, the salt of the earth, forever a family. I fell in love of these people. Look, the first thing I dig up, significant.

I dug up two modern coins, but I looked like a genius because I, they were on top of the ground and my machine goes off. I said, there's a modern quarter. And he was like, you think? I said, oh, it's a modern quarter. So I dug it up, it's a modern quarter. And it had a bullet. you could tell someone shot the quarter.

Well, these two boys who are now, I would guess late 20s, they said when we were kids, we would throw up coins and shoot them with a BB gun or 22. I was like, you sound like my kind of people. And I found one. So then it got nostalgic

because now I found something part of their history and they were kids, you know. And so I walked a few steps and I said, well, here's a modern dime. And guess what? It had a bullet. I was like, y'all must be pretty good shots. if you're hitting dimes and quarters in mid-air.

So look, then I got a signal. They had a trampoline. Here's what would Phil say, Jace, there's hope for America. I mean, Philadelphia, they're shooting dimes. They're shooting quarter. We were bonding and I only had three hours to hunt because I had this huge event and I hadn't slept much.

And I was like, I need to take a one hour nap and then we'll go to the event. But we're going to hunt for three hours. Well, then I get a signal on. this trampoline i thought i was picking up part of the trampoline it's in their yard small yard because the house was built in 1800 i'm like forget this place in the woods this place was built in the year 1800 so i get a signal and i said i don't know what this is but it sounds good but i may be picking up the trampoline so i did i dig this hole as soon as i saw the coin and it was a copper coin but it was big i just immediately went into it was like we were filming for duck fans

family treasure. I took all running, hollering. I didn't even know what it was. I thought it was a King George from Europe, because that's what it kind of looked like. And they were like, because I didn't realize, you know, everybody's watching me. And they're like, what is it? And I said, I don't know. I said, but the fact that I don't know is exciting because I know it's old and it was real deep, you know. So I lightly took, I said, anybody got a stick? Because You can't, they're like rub on it. I said, no, no, no water, no. I was like, it's a copper coin.

I don't know what it is. And so I lightly cleaned it. And the first thing I saw was 1797. And oh, here's another surge. And they're like, what is it? I said, I don't know, but it says 1797. And it's unusual. It turns out we had found, through the years,

large sense that started, I think around 1800. Well, this was a second edition large scent. They only made them for 10 years. So it was like before the large, that was a penny, but it's huge. But this had a different shape, different look. Lady Liberty is on it, but it has Liberty on it. I was like, look, Liberty. And quite rare and worse some money.

And this was in way better shape than any of them you've ever seen. And I just went nuts. And I found a lot of other stuff after that. Is that your best fine? That was the best fine. And look, I found a Masonite buckle from a pair of suspenders from the early 1800s that was also valuable. I found a silver dime from 1890, only 103 hours.

I found a flat button with writing on it from the 1820s. It was a civilian button, but still. What was the most value? What was the most valuable find? Oh, that large cent, the second edition, because it's a rare coin, it's in good condition. Of course, I gave all the stuff to them. I was so overwhelmed. And they were like, no, you keep some of the, keep that coin.

I was like, oh, no. I said, because number one, I want to come back. I said, we had them got to the place. So anyway, when I got back to the hotel, fixed to take my nap, fix to do the event, I was kind of getting my bag in order. and all. They put that coin in a box, had it wrapped up with a nice letter from the mom.

And they're like, this is your. Oh, they sent it home. Oh, I got all misty-eyed. That's pretty awesome. Because I made such a big deal of it, you know.

And so it was fantastic. So to go back quickly to the other story, this all started at this check-in, the airport. I have all my treasure hunting stuff, but which is a lot of stuff. You know, my little side.

pouch bag and my pin pointer and I got batteries I got my golf clubs I've got clothes for a week I have you know my other bag with my Bible and all this stuff well when I put my golf bag up there it weighed 44 pounds this is everything I got and I thought that's pretty good I was shocked yeah well missy who's not going to Philadelphia with me she just has a suitcase well when I reached and grabbed it to put it up on 62 pounds no when i went but there's something that happened a pain when i when i made that one little one little move my back felt like somebody shot me right in the the lower back with a 22 and when it got on there because i'm just wintzing she said what's wrong and i said my back and when that weight popped up that

I said, yep, 66 pounds. That was close. And so I looked at her and I said, babe, the whole purpose of a vacation is to relax. Oh, Jay, you're so in my world right now. And I was going to play golf for two days at kissing camels, which I did anyway. But now, I am now injured for the whole trip. And it was just getting your bag on this. And so you got to pay extra for that too.

Over 50 pounds, you got to pony up. It's another point that I didn't care about, Zach, because I thought I was dying. But now, when I walked out of the house this born-do podcast, Missy final words before our pleasantries, because we've gotten through that now. She said, don't throw me under the bus. Because now this is a happy ending.

Because she knows how heavy. You know what we call that, Maddie? Too late. Yeah. So when we get to our little home that was awesome, some kind of Airbnb, she's like, will you help me get my bag out? And I went, no, I'm not able. So Reed was there.

You know, we had our little family. Reed was like, good grief. What do you got in there? I was like, it's 66 pounds. I was like, look at how much bigger my golf bag. So we, he gets the bag in there. When me and Reed started talking on the way, I was escort him, I'm like, Reed is this wrong?

that since I'm injured now, I want to see what's in this bag. Is that wrong for me to do that? And he's like, Dad, I think you should. Well, when Reid opened the bag, you know what the first thing that popped out to me was? There's a black iron skillet. Maddie laughed out.

I'm talking, I'm talking a big black iron skillet. I was like, you packed a black iron skillet. Now look, she went to the K. Robertson School of vacation. You might be a redneck. Yeah, that's the old joke. If you pack a black iron scler in your luggage. There were hair jars and appliances and all these kind of curlers for your hair. And there was spray bottles.

And I'm like, how did you get through security? You know, she's like, well, that's why I checked it. And so I thought, what is she doing? she's going crazy here's what I didn't realize and this is why I'm not throwing her under the butt I did not realize that my wife planned to cook

for this crew and look we had the Langhoeffers over we had other it was a... It was a night by the fire that was no going out to eat and all that I mean that woman came there to serve and look these meals that were rolled out

Every night, we're imagine cooking for 15 people every night on your vacation. Yeah. And I, you know, felt pretty bad. I couldn't do anything else because my back hurt. And Reed strapped me in the golf because, you know, I'm like, every time I swung, I'm like, oh. So we only played those two days and I suffered. But I just thought, man, she cooked the whole time.

And I thought, you know what? I'm glad she brought that black iron skill. I mean, we had to have it. It was an electric stove. these people, they don't have to cook. We went to Colorado. I agree. And so that was the key piece, and I thought it was worth me going through this suffering.

I actually had an image of what Jesus went through. I thought, yeah, this woman came to serve. And so I had to be the sacrifice of getting it up on the, so we could weigh it and pay our $100, whatever we had to pay for that. But it made everybody feel better. It created the right atmosphere to be refreshed. And guess what? Right now, knock on this wood, my back feels wonderful.

You weren't limping when you came in. Now, the problem is the last day we were there, Rie was like, it was the night before. He's like, Dad, you want to go trout fishing? I was like, we're in Colorado. This is what they did. Yeah. So he organized a little trout fishing because, look, we had Reed and Brighton.

Well, Brighton has three kids, three, two, and one. And just watching that in a four-day period made me exhausted. Just watch her. I thought these wonderful kids. And she's got them in tip-top shape. But the fact that there are three, I just thought, man, this woman does this. You realize why the Almighty made it where young people have young babies. Exactly.

I came in there one morning. She was cooking bacon, had the littlest one on one hip. The other two were over there. I just looked at her. And I thought, you need some help. She's like, oh, I got it. I was like, no, you need some. What can I do to help you?

Because right now, I just feel like you're a rock star. And so we were going to take her on a little trout fishing adventure because she had gone with us in Montana. And so meet her and read. Well, what I didn't realize, we had to drive about an hour. We walked a mile just to get to the stream. and I was looking around like, are you sure you can walk them off? I mean, you know, she's all, oh, I'm good.

And, of course, no problem. So we get to the stream. It was awesome. We caught a couple of fish. She hung about five, but we had to use real little flies to get them to bite. So a lot of, we hung a lot and had long fights, but we actually only landed about four. So at the end of it, this, we had a guide. And he's like, look, there's a little spot.

You get about halfway into the creek. and see those rocks? I was like, yeah. When I got out there, I thought, ooh, this current's a little stronger here. I mean, it was so strong. I felt like a little uncomfortable. And he's like, no, on the, you keep going, keep going.

But the further I got out there, the water got deeper. It was out to my belly button. That current was pushing against my legs. Then the wind started blowing because the storm was coming up. I was like, you know, I'm not sure I can cross this creek. I mean, because my legs were shaking a bit. And I thought, I said, this courage pretty strong.

He's like, yeah, it's strong. And watch your step. And so I finally pulled the plug. I was like, you know what? This is too strong. And so as I turned around to come back, I could see a rock under the water. I thought, if I step on that rock,

because I was losing my traction, I felt like I just fixed to be blown away. When I stepped on that rock, it was slick. It had a film on it. That was the last thing I remember. And then my feet, went to where my head was.

Just straight up. And my rear end hit that rock hard. And I popped up downstream. Of course, I didn't realize it was 80 degrees, and I was kind of warm up until then. That water was ice cold. Oh, yeah. These are mountain streams.

There was searing pain happening on my rear end, and I thought, well, I broke something. And they said, you're all right? And I went, yep, but I was not all right. And so I just, I really don't remember getting out of the water, you know, because I was hurting so bad. And so I stroke that it went from the back to the rear end. And I kept thinking until today that I was going to have to see a doctor. But today I woke up for the first time I walked without a limp over that fall.

Let me read this again. It's he gives strength to the weary. and increases the power of the weak. Even youths grow tired and weary young men stumble and fall. There you go. You do those eagle wings. You see why I was going to do it? I was going to tell the story.

I was going to read the eagle. And look, then, I mean, there's a section in Revelation that says to the church at Philadelphia. Yeah. Now, it was over in modern day Turkey. Right. And I was going to go where we're at in John 13. I was going to go to the different kinds of love. I did mention that in my speech.

The brotherly love, it's the city of brotherly love. It is. And so, which is the Greek word, the root for that is that filetio, or however you want to see it, pronounce that there's alternate pronunciations. But then I, you know, in that section, which I didn't say I should have, you know, they were the only church that he addressed that he really didn't have a problem with anything. They did. They were the least chastised.

And what I noticed in that passage is he uses the agape love in it. Yeah. In it. But it's that Jesus loved them. And so I think that's in, you'll see it if you read it. It's chapter three in verse nine. he said that was you know they were doing this and i was going to go into this kingdom the kingdom of the lord and then he references the kingdom of the evil one here that he calls it the synagogue

of satan that could be a sermon right there the synagogue who claimed to be jews other than not but are liars i will make them come and fall down at your feet that i and acknowledge that i have loved you and he used that agape love yeah and so i did do that little bit about the unselfish love the and and that takes us back to you know to John 13 which because I've just been obsessed with those first three verses of John and I know we've kind of moved on from there but in the section that we haven't covered in detail I think it throws back to those first three verses when he says, when he says, John says in John 13, 3, Jesus knew that the father had put all things into his hands, and that he had come from God, and that he was returning to God.

So he got up, you know, and he washed their feet, and he showed them this love, which he would then say, this is an example, that you should do this to others. Right. And the point I was going to make, and then I would like to discuss, is where he says they were having trouble understanding this. I think he's going back to, in verse 12, he says, when he had finished washing their feet, he put on his clothes, and he returned to his place, and he asked this question. This is a question I wanted to put in the questions, the list. Yeah, I forgot to do that last podcast. And it's a good one.

Do you understand what I have done for you? That's a good one. Let's have a little CELA moment. So just think about that. And you know what it made me think, which is a secondary question? Why did Jesus come? You know, he says that in verse three. He knew he had come from God.

and he was returning. But he wanted to show them the extent or the end that we did do a section on that of his love. And he washed your feet. And then he asked that quick, do you understand what I've done for you? Right. I mean, that just hit me like a ton of bricks. Just because I thought, why did Jesus come? What's his will?

Why is he doing this? And I think that's a very good question. Then you think about it, Jayce, it's a, when you, I tell couples all the time, when you create life, you know, two people come together. A man and a woman, husband, a wife is the way God designed it, and you create life. The idea is once that life is created, or you do like you guys have done, Zach, you did, you adopt a child. Yeah. So the life has already been created, but you decide, I'm going to be, you know, I want to take responsibility for this life. it's not you don't do that to lord it over this creation you do that to serve, nurture and raise up

this creation to hopefully be the best it can possibly be. You want it to even be in our case as humans better than you are. And when you think about that's exactly what you're seeing here Jesus described. I mean he is the great I am. He's a part of the creative process and yet he's showing in a physical form exactly what you do with creation you come to serve you come to raise up to come to make out we're trying that's what it hit me like a ton of bricks i thought here's the creative of the universe and john pointing this out he knew that he had come from god well why and he's like you understand this and it made all these stories pop in my head i thought about the uh Zacchaeus in the tree.

I mean, here's a short guy. Yeah. And he's up in a tree. And I don't care who you are. I know Jesus had a smile on his face. That's funny. It's funny. He's like, but what does he do?

He's like, I'm coming to your house today. I mean, do you realize this is the creator of the universe in human form saying, I'm going to go to your house? It's like we don't preach that side of Jesus. Like, even in this, do you understand? understand what he's saying. He wants to go to my house? And he's a tax collector? There's nobody in any generation since the beginning of the world who's ever liked a tax collector. Exactly. And here he's like, you know he had a smile on his face and said, no, I'm coming to your

house. Well, then he tells why. Because it says, because he came to seek and to save the loss, which gets back to my question. Do you understand why he came? you and he's doing this and boy unfortunately there's so many religious wings of christianity that focuses on oh we came to punish or condemn and it's like have you not read this yeah i mean he came to our weddings what yeah he's healing the sick i mean think about the people that jesus went after they were almost all ceremonial ceremonial unclean i mean we we just or did a podcast not yet now.

We talked about Mark Chapter 5 when he goes in and he heals the woman who had been bleeding for 12 years. He should have not have touched her, right?

She touches him, he touches her. You know, they have an interaction and she's healed. So he's going to people who nobody else would touch the outcasts of society.

He goes into a dead corpse. Right after that, the 12-year-old little girl who's dead. You can't touch a dead corpse. Right before that, the demoniac in the tombs right unclean around dead people everything that jesus did yeah it seems much more about he came to bring life to the desolate and the broken and the downtrodden and all the

places that and the people that nobody else would have anything to do with this jesus is like yeah that's where i'm going and i'm bringing life with me i'll make the unclean the the unclean won't make me unclean in fact i'm clean and i'll make them clean I'll give them life. I did a lesson one time that called the untouchables. And I had some of the same examples you just said and made those points that Jesus did that. And I was making the point,

because this was a real life experience for me, because when we had Anna and she was in the hospital, we couldn't hold her because, you know, she had all these tubes and wires and all this. And so we would just stand there and rub and touch her legs and our arms. And that was all we could do, you know, it was our child, but we couldn't, like, hold.

her like you would a normal child. And there was a child a couple of beds over. And unfortunately, she had been abandoned there because she was premature like Anna. And I don't know the situation or what happened with the mom. But so there was no one to touch her, you know? And it just, it broke my heart. And so the nurses would try, even some of us

when it was allowed would try because, but that child, you know that child probably always had issues because, you know, they needed that touch. And so I had made that same point that you made, that the beauty of what Jesus does is he touches the untouchable, which really, you think about all of us. Or Jason, you made the point about Zakeas. I love Luke's account because he tells the Zakiya story

right after he tells the story of the rich young ruler, who is exactly the opposite, a guy who seemed to have it all together but wasn't really seeking who Jesus was for the right reason. And when you look at those two pictures, everybody wants to be the rich young ruler. or nobody wanted to be Zakias, except for Jesus recognizing that that was the house he needed to go to. And so it really does change your perspective when you think about how you look at people.

Well, you think about that Jace said that people have like this idea that Christ came to condemn the world and to, and it's kind of a distortion of the scriptures, right? I mean, it is. But think about like what they, I think what people want to avoid is this. And I get this on some level. They want to avoid a gospel that puts man at the dead center of it instead of God. But you have to deal with a text like this because I think what will happen is if you get off on this, you're going to have the same problem that Peter had.

Peter understood on some level who Christ was and his power and sovereignty in some level because he's like, no, no, no, Jesus, you got this backwards. You don't wash my feet. I'm not going to let you watch my feet. And in Peter's mind, Peter's saying this as a way of respect for Christ, a way of upholding his power and his sovereignty and his kingship. And like he's saying, you're greater than I. There's no way you should wash my feet.

I'm not going to let you do that. And I think that we, if we're not careful, we can create theologies that do the same thing, where we minimize what Jesus is actually trying to do. But what Jesus said to him, he came to Simon Peter and said to him, Lord, do you wash my feet? Jesus answered them, what I'm doing, you do not understand now, but afterwards you will understand.

And Peter said to him, you shall never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, if I do not wash you, you have no share with me. So this is like a super humbling thing because what it calls us to, it calls us to a certain type of humility

to be able to express, enjoy and receive the love of God. And Peter had to deal with this. Pretty obvious, but I just want to give a little recap. So look, you remember in John 3 when he said, I didn't come into the world. I did not send the sun into the world to condemn the world, John 317, but to save the world.

And remember when in verse 31 in the second half, it says the one who comes from heaven is above all. so I think to your point, Peter was responding like that. It's like, oh, no, you can't be serving us, which I think is why Jesus said, do you understand what I did? You understand what I'm doing?

And he uses that word later in the text. I've set you an example. Well, what Zach just quoted without quoting it is in John 10, when he has this metaphor for I'm the shepherd and you're the sheep. He uses this same phrase in verse 10. He says, the thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I have come that they may have life.

That's why when you get to 13 and John says, he knew he came from God. Well, why did he come? He's like, do you understand this? And so when he says, do you understand this, lift you an example that just as I've loved you, you should love one another. Well, when Peter, who comes full circle and writes his letter, just listen to how the wording of this is.

If you don't think he grasped at some point what Jesus did here, when he gets to 1st Peter 2, it says talking about suffering for wrongdoing, especially in the name of Jesus. In verse 21, it says to this you were called, because Christ suffered for you. well here's this phrase leaving you an example that you should follow in his steps he says that exact phrase in john 1315 i have set you an example that you should do as i've done for you and then it says he committed no sin no deceit was found in his mouth which is a quote from isaiah 53 9 when they hurled their insults at him he didn't retaliate when he suffered he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted himself to him who judges justly. He bore our sins and his body

on the tree so that we might die to sins. Look, here's this John 1010. And live for righteousness. He came that you could have life and have it to the full. By his wounds, you have been healed. But here's the kicker. And people go here and they're like, you know, let me explain to you why Jesus died. Look at this, and this gets into why he came, the will of God. For you were like sheep going astray, but now you have returned to the shepherd and overseer of your souls. Does that not sound like John 13.3 when Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power, or into his hands, that he had come from God and was returning to God. It's like, He set that example, and what's fascinating about this, and this is all over the place.

You know, it's in Paul's sermon in Acts 17, where he's like, he gives you life and breath and everything else so that you would seek him and find him. But what happens is when you do seek and find him, you realize, well, he came here to seek me. And that started before even time began. He's been seeking me the whole time, which. That's why I went to that, the Zacchaeus, when he said, you know, I came to seek and find. He's pursuing me. What Peter's doing in this passage, he thinks that he's doing a good thing by saying, Christ, you'll never wash my feet.

Because what he thinks he's doing is he thinks he's elevating Christ, and he's saying, I'm not worthy for you to wash my feet, right? So he's thinking that he's putting himself in that posture. What he's actually doing is he's actually elevating. himself over Christ because it's a very nuanced form of pride because what it's saying is in the end it's saying that God needs him for some purpose, right? And Acts 17 says this. I mean, it's funny, we just had this conversation on the other podcast. But in Acts 17, which you just mentioned, Paul says something really, really powerful about the character of God. He says that

God does not need man. He said he is not served by human hands as if he needed anything because he gives all men life and breath. In fact, let me read it directly. Oh, just think of that verse, though. He gives all men life, which we just read, he came to give life to the full. Not only do you have this life, look, and breath and everything else. I mean, we're acknowledging that people are going through tough times and their struggles and all that. But for a moment, just stop and recognize that everything you have was given to you by God.

He's pursuing you. And his motivation, because it says he's not. So what's the motivation of God? Well, we know verse 25 of Acts 17 says, he is not served by human hands as though he needed anything. since so I think sometimes we think of God created us because he needed us to somehow give him validation as God through our praise or worship or whatever. I'm like, you ain't, God doesn't need your praise. He doesn't need you to serve him. He doesn't need you. You don't, you don't stroke. He has to have an ego that needs to be stroke. He's not insecure. Like, he didn't create me and you out of some

gap and need that he needed. Like, we have to understand that. Then why did he create? He created mankind to, it was an overflow of his inner life, of his love. He gives mankind life, breath, and everything he made from one man, every nation of mankind to live on the face of the earth, having determined a lot of periods and boundaries for their dwelling place. Here's what, that they should seek God and perhaps find their way toward him. and yet he's not actually far from each one of us. For in him we live, to your point, Jace.

We move and we have our being, as some of our own poets have said, for we are indeed his offspring. So being then God's offspring, we're as kids. We shouldn't think of him as like a divine being like gold or silver or stone or an image formed by the art and imagination of man. In the past, Paul says, God overlooks such ignorance, but now he commands people to repent of that. Like, no, God is our father.

He created us because we are an extension and an overflow of his love to Al's point earlier. It's the same reason why we adopted Ruth. It's the same reason why we had kids. So let me put a practical point in here for folks listening, because this is some pretty deep thoughts here. Is it? That Peter, here's something practical for you, because a lot of you are listening out here, and you're still thinking sometimes and you have reactions, because I did for many years too, as a young man and faith or young woman in faith.

And you miss it. You feel really strongly about something and you realize as you get a little bit older, it's that, man, what was I thinking? Peter, the same Peter, who's in our context in John 13, who misses what Jesus was here to do, it's the same guy that wrote that text that Jay said 30 years later. So there is hope for you sometimes they're thinking,

man, I just seem to miss it so many times. look, maturity that you grow in Christ create something so fantastic. When you finally get there and you see things a lot clearer, you appreciate them. So when you read a text like this, I always like to throw that in because sometimes you're like, man, how do I keep missing it? But look, Peter did too. And he was literally the right hand of Jesus. I mean, I hate to say this.

When I put that question, which I'm not even sure where the idea must have came from the Holy Spirit, just looking at the 300 questions, Jesus. asked in the Gospels. Because he had just said, John said he knew where he came from and where he was returning. I feel like we need to start over the whole book of John.

Because when I started going back... We'll be here for four years. Look, this theme is all over the place. And look, I had in my notes to read John 7 in verse 16. but while I was here, I was just thumbing through looking for other passages, and literally in the moment right here while you were talking, I noticed John 814.

Watch how all this comes to life. I want to read John 814. Jesus answered, even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid. Watch what this phrase says. for I know where I came from and where I'm going. Well, where does that sound like? It's the exact quote in John 133 that John made,

but Jesus says it here. But you have no idea where I come from or where I'm going. And the point is when I was going to read John 716, Jesus answered because the Jews asked him a question, how did this man get such learning without having studied? And you know what Jesus' answer was in 716? My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me, which goes back to the John 3.

He sent him into the world not to condemn me. Goes back to John 1010. I came that they may have life. It's literally in every chapter he keeps saying that. And what I was going to say is it's like as Christians and followers are Jesus, we can't get past the question of where we can't get past the question of where we came from. We have a big debate. Well, you know, I wonder if there was an explosion, you know, this floating matter that came out of nowhere, then all of a sudden life exists. Y'all've heard this

story. We teach it in public schools every day. You know, we came from just this random explosion. Primordial suit. And, you know, and so we have debates, you know, where did we come from? But the question Jesus keeps addressing is where he came from. And what I wanted to say is, when he, he gets to this point, and even way back in John 7, and says in verse 33, when he says, I am with you only for a short time, and then I'm going to go to the one who sent me. Because it's always, he came from God, but he's returning to the Father. And even in verse 34, chapter 7, you will look for me, but you will not find me. And where I am, you cannot come.

and I think we're always trying to go to heaven or go find God, which is why you read that passage in Acts 17, oh, well, he put me here to find him. And then when you read the words of Jesus, he was like, no, I came down. And I'm going to leave, but guess what? There's something else going to come down. That's where we're headed next.

Yeah, in John 14 through 16, which is the same thing he did in John 7. He repeats the same phrase in verse 36. You will look for me, but you will not find me. Where I am, you cannot come. But he keeps saying, but I know where I came from. I've come down to you. I'm seeking you. And you're like, yeah, but I want to seek you.

And he's like, no, don't get the cart before the horse. You're going to realize when you find me that I've been looking for you all along. And I came that you might have life. And I'm going to show you what my will is. When you read chapter 7 and verse 17, this is a point I want to make to introduce for our next podcast. It says, now listen to John 717. If anyone chooses to do God's will, well, what is God's will? So I went down a rabbit hole because based on that question, he's like, I came from God and I'm returning.

Do you understand what I've done for you? What is my will? Why did I come? which John 1010 is pretty evident, came to have life. But here in John 17, he attaches that. If you choose to God's will, he will find out whether my teaching comes from God. You know what I found fascinating? I'd never notice that when you do a rabbit hole on God's will,

you know what you're going to find right next to it? Love. Love. Think Romans 12 where it says you'll understand what God's will is. Well, in Romans 13, what's he start talking about? Yeah, love. There's a whole section on it. And I think it mirrors what he did in John 13.

That connection with God's will and why he came, he's pursuing us, seeking and saving. It always goes hand in hand with this example of love that he's mirroring here with washing the feet, even with my wife's black iron skillet. She was, it was a form of foot washing. for her family. You know what she should have done?

She should have looked up at you and you saw that black skillet and said, do you understand what I've done for you? That, Al, you could not have put a better button because you know what? I said, if it took a back injury to serve my family, who's a forever family, we're doing it. We're doing it. All right, we're out of time. We'll pick it up next time on Unashamed. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast.

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