Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 1162 | Phil Robertson's Best Unscripted Moments from Political Campaigns to Late-Night TV

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

Jase looks back on the night Phil crushed late-night TV while Willie froze—proof that Phil’s best moments were unscripted, unfiltered, and unforgettable. Jase embraces that same quality in himself, and Zach relives the viral endorsement Phil gave him during his run for Congress more than a decade ago. Together they explore what “perfect love” means, how to show it to each other daily, and the best ways to cultivate spiritual fruit that lasts. In this episode: John 15; John 1, verses 32–33, 38; John 14, verse 23; John 17, verse 3; Matthew 19, verses 16–21; Mark 10; Luke 18; Luke 19; Romans 5, verse 5; Romans 10, verse 13; Ephesians 1, verse 4; Ephesians 2, verses 21–22; Ephesians 4, verses 3, 13, 15 Chapters: 00:00–12:00 The Un-Scriptable Wisdom of Phil 12:01–15:00 Upcoming Appearances 15:01–26:15 How to “Abide” in Christ 26:16–35:33 Living Out Perfect Love 35:34–43:18 Bearing Godly Fruit in Your Life 43:19–55:50 God Chose US First — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So we had some guests in yesterday, and I was showing them around, and they were in the studio. Because there's so much of in here, like, we've got these little Easter eggs around of dad, you know, because, you know, this all started because the podcast, Zach was, it was his podcast. It wasn't even us. We were just, first it was just going to be dad. thought, well, Dad's not going to get this concept of a podcast because he's just going to be doing the same thing every time he does it. I was the player to be named later.

You were. You know, in a trade when they're like, Superstar was traded somewhere for a player to be named later. Yeah, we didn't even know about Jay's. So it was really interesting. So, like, even though Dad is not physically with us in the room on the same. spirit side, I think his presence is still surrounding us. And I don't know, Zach, you were telling us in a previous podcast about you guys got the material from In the Woods with Phil, which was what led to the podcast.

I mean, that, that vlog series. You know what's funny is that, so I had the original concept that we're going to do this vlog. That's what it was called back in the day. Tell us what that is. No video. It's like a blog, but with video. Yeah.

And so it was just going to be Phil. basically pontificating. And so I had written... Zach and I started a production company. Do you remember the first that we came up with like 20 scripts that were like 10 minutes, like little 10 minute video vlogs of film? And it really birthed out of dad

telling you and I on a plane one day, get me on the internet. The funny part about it, though, is I spent probably, I mean, I learned how to use final draft, which is a software that you write scripts with, and I wrote all these, I wrote these scripts for Phil to basically,

they were going to be, I, you had just written the first movie, the, the torchbearer movie. So I'm like, man, I got this.

Yeah, yeah. So I get there in the first, did that, but I'd never actually outside of that had worked with Phil in production capacity. And I learned very quickly

that Phil is unscriptable. What you write, really, this not, doesn't matter. And I would try to like, get him to say what was on. And he's like,

he was, wasn't doing it. But it actually worked out. We filmed 800 episodes of Phil. And literally it was like sit down. It was like you show up with the camera and you just turn and the guy. The crew started like with like eight people. I got it all the way down to one guy. He would go down there, turn the camera on and it was just like Phil would go. And then we would turn those into these. They're all incredible spiritual truths, timeless truths. Kind of like Paul Harvey. Yeah. Like the old Paul Harvey show. So we're actually putting it in a podcast now format called At Home with Phil Robertson. If you want to check them out, they're on anywhere you listen to podcasts, and you can check

them out on a YouTube channel, and they're kind of like a daily rhythm just to get into. They're like eight minutes long, ten minutes long. They're super short, but they're all awesome. Well, I love this idea because I've been now, like, so every time we do something, we did Duck Commander Sunday, there's videos of Dad. And so like some of the stuff from the past, I love listening to it again. I have a hunger for that myself because dad just had so much wisdom and ways of looking at things. I remember one.

Well, nobody has really seen these unless you're behind that paywall. So it's kind of like, this has to get. Jay sent me yesterday. It was Phil with a deer, which I had seen it before, but it had been years. And is one of the most funny things I've ever watched in my life. It's PG-13. which a lot of dad stuff is. Yeah, not that it's, you know, he's hard to describe.

Just the way he said things. He was basically, it just starts off with a video, and he had just shot a deer. Yeah. But it was a small buck. And he tells the story on how he shot this deer. And I laugh till I cry. So.

Oh. Hey, Jays, I came in, what I said, well, a lot of y'all know, I ran for Congress, like 10, I guess 12 years ago,

wow. And, and so I'd hired this, hype, like this, you hire these consultants and they basically build your campaign out.

They tell you how to do all the commercials. And so they said, we need to get your uncle, Phil, like publicly endorsing you. Like, I know we've got,

like, like, we need to get a video of him endorsing you and we'll make a commercial out of it. And so, again,

they tried to write a script for Phil, And so he got out at Phil's house, and it's me and Phil, and then the camera guys and the producer, and they had this long script, and Phil's like, no, no, he literally crumbles it up, throws it on the ground, says, turn your cameras on, boys. And he did this with Benelli, too, by the way, but so he looks at the camera, I don't know what he's going to say. And this was the line. He said, hey, guns and bibles got us here.

It'll be guns and bibles that keep us here. A nephew, Zach Dash, believes him. both. And then he just walked off. And they're like, they're all. See, I think that's it. That's it. That's it. I think that's brilliant. It is, man. I thought you were viral too because then like all the, you know, certain websites got a hold of it and they just went bizarre. I thought you go tell the one, he said, he said, no, this one right here, I have vetted him since he burst forth from my sister's loins. Well, I'll tell you about that video. And, uh, and look, whole thing, if you just stumbled up on this video, you would say, this guy's a crazy man.

Yeah. But so I watched it and I laughed. But then when I watched it again, I figured out the context, which then I understood it. But no one would understand the context. They just, if they watch this, it's funny. But you're like, what, what does it all mean? Yeah. But what happened was, and I'll just give you the gist of it, the camera starts on. And he, and he's, and he's, He's in front of this deer. Well, as he's talking, he's basically telling you why you didn't see the deer get shot. Because he had a cameraman, obviously.

There's one here. But you don't hear that until much later. So he just starts off, and he's like, you see that right there? And the cameraman pans over and there's a deer stand. And he's like, if it's deer season, you never want to get in that. because the deer know when you're in it. He said, because every time I got in it, I would look down to where I part my truck

and the deer would cross. He said, so I thought, I'll just stay in my truck. They'll think I'm in the stand. Of course, this small deer is there. And he said, and listen to country music. And so you're like, well, why didn't they film this? So that's what he tells what happened.

and he kind of tells some funnies about that. He's like, they think you're here, but there, if you stay in the truck, well, they'll just walk right under the stand. You shoot him. Yeah. And here he is. And he's like, look at this, dear. He's got, and then he made fun of all the people saying the G2s and the G4.

He's like, look at this G4 and G. I mean, it's about the size of a pencil. It's a little bore point, right? And he's like, so this is how you do it. I'm in the truck listening to country music that makes. making the deer think that I'm in the stand. He's like, the cameraman's taking a dump. And Jimmy Red is squirrel hunting.

That's the PG-13 part of it. And he says, they come out from squirrel hunting and, you know, taking a dump. And here I am. I got the deer, and I've been in the truck. This is the country music. And that was it. It was like a two-minute rant on, this is our morning. Yeah.

And now we're fixing to go eat the deer. dear. He just turn the camera and he could go. Well, you got that

Jay's, you got that same gift though. You turn the camera. I'm always like,

jace is an endless well of content. I mean, it's just turn the camera. Well, you know, I told the story recently, and

I never heard this part of it, but when I remembered back, I remember marveling when he told the story when they were

coming on to the Conan O'Brien, which I guess was the Tonight Show back then or whatever. But so they It was the very first one of those big shows. It was Willie and Dad.

And I just remember how good Dad was, but Willie says, as they were standing behind that curtain, he just froze. The moment got too big for Willie, which is funny, you know, because Willie's a showman. But he said, I just locked up. And we walked out there.

He said, I couldn't even remember my name. He said, but I was sitting on the other side of Phil. And he was sitting right there next to Conan O'Brien. But he said, I watched Dad just bring Like, Oh, I was one of the greatest interviews. It was so good. And dad was just funny, and he had O'Brien laughing.

Well, he broke that barrier of people think that duck calls are not interesting if people don't. I mean, they don't think it, they think it's only interesting to duck hunters. But Phil taught me that with that interview, like wherever I go, I mean, I've been Chicago, Philadelphia, whatever. There's been people not who are not duck hunters. Yeah. But they're interested. They find this language that we're speaking to the animal. They find it very interesting.

And especially when you make fun of them for all the sounds. And that's basically what he did. Well, Conan O'Brien thought it was hilarious. I mean, he was like, there's somebody on the planet who's making these little things that sound like the animal world. And he seems to be excited about it. And whatever that is. makes great entertainment. It was so funny.

And dad's blowing the calls and the corner of my eyes said, they're landing on the roof. He just was totally into it. But Willie just sat over there and laughed the whole time. But he said, I had nothing. I was just locked up. He said, but dad just like brought it home,

which was really funny, the way it worked. Speaking of West Coast, so we're at least and I are heading to the state of Oregon. We're going to parachute in behind Blue State lines. Really? You're actually going to jump out of a plane? Well, that's the way I describe it when we go into the Blue State.

We parachute in. But I love these folks because it's the Oregon right to life. It's on Saturday, September 20th, so it's coming up soon. And I know we have a lot of West Coast listeners, people in that area. So, you know, if you get a chance, check it out. We'd love to see and meet you there. Well, that's weird now. I'm going to California.

tomorrow. Of course, you can't come because by the time this airs, I would have already been there. But I'll give you a report when I get back. I only signed up for it because I thought if there's a group of people in California that's inviting me to share Jesus, I mean, you're going to show up. Well, that's what I tell I told our booking person, I was like, is somebody from a blue state asked, the answer is yes. We'll work out the details later.

Because I love going, because these people are in some rough, like, government situations. and well they're in a world within a world al they are well i've got i've got al i've booked al for swananoa church he's coming up october 5th that's right he's getting paid a hefty honorarium my request was because when i was asked to do this zach i said i want to make twice what zach makes yeah he preaches and i didn't know that you made nothing so well two times zero don't make anything but i'll but i will make you a good dinner give me a two dollar bill I'll give me $2 bill. That's not a bad idea.

I'll be in your studio. I'll be in your studio. Yeah, well, this is right there next to you. Yeah. And then I've got a way to get Jace up here to preach at our church too. I got a little thing I'm going to do. I've identified a piece of property that I'm going to petition. This is a historic piece of property that I'm going to petition them to let Jace do some treasure hunting on the property.

Now we're talking. That'll do it. You may get more than a horn blow, Zach. That's the only way you'll get him to stay. You got to sweeten the pot. That's exactly right. No, it's going to be fun. I'm looking forward to that.

Yeah, we've got, I'll mention, because we're going to be doing several North Carolina appearances. I'll tell you as we get closer to those too. I like to let you guys know where we're going. By the way, Al and Lisa Robertson.com, all of our events are there if you want to check those out and the information on how you can reach out to these people. Because sometimes they sell out and stuff like that.

And also we do blogs on there and keep that going. So some good information. So check it out. All right. So we ready to get back to John? Yep. Let's do it. John 15 is where we're hanging out.

We read the first 11 verses at the end of the last podcast. And I had made the point in those first 11 verses that this remain is the NIV word. I think is your say abide, Zach, in John 15? because ESV, I think, says abide. I was looking in Revelation. I always end up in Revelation for some reason. I know. You spend a lot of time there.

I really do. It's going to have been, okay, John 15. Yeah, most of mine says abide. Whoever bides in me, yeah. Abide my love. And it's 10 times in 11 verses. And I didn't check enough, Chase, but it's probably the same. This idea, I mean, obviously Jesus is making a major point

when he says the same thing 10 times in 10 verses. And so that becomes kind of this jumping off place. Well, doesn't it make sense, though, when you think about what Christ came to do in the incarnation to dwell with us, to tabernacle with us. So I think the word abide is such a great word here because I think of the word abode, abide. Do you think about home, make our home with him? I mean, this really does show the heart of the father is to actually abide with this people. It's stay at home, continue, endure to exist permanently in, inseparably united. How many times is it mentioned in the New Testament?

And it's a bunch of times in the book of John. Listen to this one. You ready? 118 times. Wow. Listen to the first one. You're going to love this one, Judge. This is from John 132.

John gave this testimony, I saw the spirit come down from heaven as a dove and abide, remain on him. Yep. He also says it again in 33. Yep. And it's throughout. And to Zach's point, in John 138, where he says, remember the first question? Yep. What do you want?

Yep. And in verse 38, the two disciples said, where are you staying? Yep. Same words. Yeah. So it is this, it's this idea of John 1423. The father and the son, he who obeys by teaching, will come and make our home within room,

abide. And it's used a lot as a house, like Zach, you were talking about the whole temple motif all throughout, I was 118 times. So that's why he mentions it's so heavily here

because we're right in the midst of this conversation. But it's kind of funny because he's talking about the garden mindset, but it's still talking about the Holy Spirit too. I mean, it's just,

he hasn't left that kind of central part of the discussion. Yeah, well, this is the new garden, which is the spirit and dwelling people. so that becomes the kingdom within the world which i think and i know zach probably adheres remember when he prayed your kingdom come he prayed to the father yeah on earth as it is in heaven so there's a connection with this temple heaven and earth coming together

god being the gardener it's all done in love i mean i think love is the catalyst for this whole thing because when he gets into these obeying my teaching, I'm just going to confess something for years. I read this thinking, oh, when Jesus says, if you all obey my teaching will come, I had the list of rules. I had the list like the rich young ruler. Yeah. If we, you know, if we keep them, then he's with us.

But if we mess up, he leaves us. We keep him. He's back with us. We mess up. I had it down to a teaching now. Like a performance. Like you're getting paid for what you do. Well, I don't even, yeah, no.

it was a performance, it's just how I read it. But you know what I found fascinating is when I did a search on this, do what I command, where does it say that here in John 15? In verse 10, if you obey my commands, because he just said that in 1423. If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. Well, now he says, if you do what I command, as the Father has loved me, so I have loved.

loved you, now remain in my love. That's verse 9. 10. If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love. Well, what commands is he talking about? And he also said, just as I have obeyed my father's commands and remain in his love. What teachings he talking about? The greatest command. Yeah.

Exactly. Which he says multiple times, right. It's love one another. It's love God, love your neighbor. It's all centered around love. That's why I brought up the rich young ruler because, and I told you to listen to that podcast 1130 when we went through love, because that word perfect is completion is the same word in 1st Corinthians 13 where he says he defines love. Love is patient, love is kind, it does not boast it.

This is God's character. Keeps no record of wrongs. it always trust and perseveres. Never fails. Never fails. I mean, it's like, well, how can I be like this? And then he says that which is perfect when that comes. Well, that is God's love.

That's why we rely on it, 1st John 416. And he even compared it to faith and hope and said, it's great. Well, you got to keep this in mind, too. Going back to what we said earlier about, you had mentioned a previous podcast, we talked about the ways and the means and the means and the, that the means, we lack the means to love without the spirit. And so Romans 5 says that God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who's been given us.

And the fruit of the Spirit is love. That's the first one mentioned. Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness. And then you get that first John four passage you were in. So the only way we can love one another, the only way we can love one another, the only way we can actually obey God is through the work of the Spirit. That's the only means that you would ever have to be able to be obedient to this. That's how he's defeated the evil one and kicked him out because the Spirit then brings love

into the equation. That's why love is so hard to live. And if you look up those 19 times of perfect, you get the rich young ruler in Matthew 19. Remember when he said in Matthew's account of it, he said, said, what must I do to inherit eternal life? This is 1916. Jesus says, why do you ask me about what is good? There's only one who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments. Well, which ones? And he's like, all these I have kept. Well, in verse 21, Jesus said, if you want to be perfect, go sell everything you have.

Because he was introducing love and not only introducing that love, he was wanting him to live that love. And so my point is, if you read in Mark's account in Mark chapter 10, same story. Jesus looked at him and loved him. He doesn't say the line. Mark didn't give the line about if you want to be perfect. But wherever you see that word perfect, you're going to see love right there next it. And that was why I wanted you to listen to that episode 1130, because what I found fascinating is some people out there think that God only loves those who love him. Well, here's the rich

young ruler. Well, he rejected him. Yeah. And he still loved him. Right. And so, of course, they try to come up with arguments that justify that, but it's pretty hard to get around. Yeah. He's offering that love, but he doesn't want to live. He likes the commandment idea. He's like, let me just keep the commandment, but he doesn't want to love people. And so that's why this has to be relational. And people have made that story. He doesn't want to follow him either. The rich, young ruler, if you think about the call was to sell everything you have to give to the poor and then do something, what do he tell him to do, and then come follow me. And so if you think about that particular gentleman, I think is the core of his sin is he did not

want to abide in Christ. He didn't want to follow him. He didn't want to go. He didn't want to roll with Jesus. It wasn't just about giving up, you know, selling all your stuff. It was the main part was to come follow me, to come be a disciple, to come be a follower of me. And what he, the way he was viewing salvation was, this is something that I can take eternal life and I can acquire it as a possession that I, that I own. And it was transactional for him alone. And what Christ was doing in that Mark 10 is that he was just saying, no, you're misinterpreting what eternal life is. Eternal life, we'll see in John 17.3, is not something that you can acquire for your own possession. It's actually a state of being. It's a state of living and abiding with Christ, which is

interesting, if you think about this text here in John 15, the reason why this, to me, one of the main points of John 15 and why I think it's so powerful is that this actually, happens before the crucifixion of Christ and before the resurrection of Christ. And so one of the areas we talk about a lot in this podcast is thinking about salvation, not just in terms of atonement. It is atonement, but it's not only atonement. It's atonement so that we may dwell with Christ, so that we may abide with him. So think about the argument that he's making here. He's making that argument. He's saying, I have to go. Basically, I got to die. I got to be. I got to be buried, I got to be raised, and I have to ascend. And he says, you know why I have to do that?

You know the main reason why I got to get out of here? Because if I don't go, what, then he's not coming. So you see that the point of the gospel, the point of the death, the burial, and the resurrection, and the ascension of Christ is so that Christ can then come dwell in the bodies of humans through the power of the Holy Spirit. That's a pretty powerful argument, if you think about it. And it's a different lens through which I think a lot of us read the scripture, but I think it's how he should have read it. Jason mentioned Mark. I love Luke's telling of the Rich Young Ruleer's story in Luke 18,

because what he does is, and I think it's because he's viewing it through a Gentile lens, you know, because we know Luke was a, you know, Gentile physician. But he tells the story and then comes right back in the next chapter and tells the story of Zakias. and I love telling those stories together because they show you what a submissive obedient heart looks like versus one that doesn't. Two wealthy men,

but remember as Ikeus's reaction, when he climbed the tree, you remember, and he said, Jesus said, I'm coming to your house. And as soon as he does, he says, I'm going to give back four times

what my dishonest came to people. What Jesus didn't say anything to him about getting rid of wealth. He volunteered that. He just on his own. He said, you know what? I'm so fired up about this situation. I've cheated people before. I'm giving four times this money back.

He immediately went all in. And I love the picture of that. So John 15 is introducing this idea. But at this point in John 15, it's a Jewish audience only. Correct. He's his disciples. And so that's why when he says, I'm the vine, he's going back to when Israel was known as the vine.

And we'll read that. But what we're doing, it's hard for us not to fast forward to us. Yeah. Because it's just so inspiring and exciting. And I just wanted to show you those 19 times where that word perfect is used, one of them is the rich young ruler. Another one is in 1 John 4 when it says, you know,

we rely on the love God has for us in verse 16. But he eventually says perfect love cast out fear. Well, there's another one of those 19. There it is. And another one, just to make this practical, if you go to the book of Ephesians, which we studied on the podcast, watch how this works.

If I just give you a thumbnail of the whole book, you know, in the first chapter of Ephesians, the last two words in verse four of chapter one, he says, in love he predestined us to be adopted as his sons. Well, then he brings up the Holy Spirit. in verse 13, you were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel, having believed you were marked in him with the promised Holy Spirit. And then you remember when he gets to the end of chapter 2, he's like, you're no longer

foreigners or aliens, but you're fellow citizens, members of his household. You're joined together, verse 21, and rise to become a holy temple in the Lord. and in him you two are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his spirit. I mean, incredible. Look, you get to chapter four, and he says, remember the famous verse, verse three, make every effort to keep the unity of the spirit? And you say, where are you going with this? Watch when it gets to the church, and he says in verse 13,

that we, he has all these roles of pastors and teachers to prepare God's people for works of service. Well, these are acts of love, right? Until verse 13, until we all reach unity in the faith in the knowledge of the sun and become, that word right there is perfect. That's one of the 19 times. So you become perfect because you're doing these acts of service

that are in love, that are a reflection. But he goes on to say in verse 15, we speak the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the head that is Christ. That love is the foundation. He goes on to say in chapter 5, and I'll end with this one, be imitators of God, therefore, as dearly loved children, which is where he started in Ephesians 1.4. Live a life of love. And live a life of love. then here's to Zach's point and just as Christ loved us

and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God so when John 15 when he was like I had to clean you up and I had to move in so that you could actually be a place even though you're just a human body

where God can dwell because in him there is no sin You know, in him, there's no, you know, this idea of accusation from the evil one. And so that's what he's pointing towards in John 15 of what will happen in the great news is in Ephesians, it's Jews and Gentiles. It's everybody. Which that was the big theme, right? Exactly. The bringing together of the two.

This is the point. This is the new creation outline that he's introducing through the spirit. So if we go back to his context, you have to look at it through the eyes of Israel because Israel was God's chosen nation. And it's deemed the branch of God. Do you want to read that Psalm 80? Because Psalm 80 is powerful when he says, I am the true vine. The true vine. Well, what does that infer?

There was a vine that wasn't the true vine because they're. rejected him, which was the nation of Israel. You said, well, how do you know that? Because he's getting this from Psalm 80, which is showing to his audience, this was the plan of God. Right. Me. You're looking at him. I am the Israelite of all Israelites, because I'm God in human form.

So watch Psalm 80. It starts off saying, verse 1, hear us, hear us, O shepherd of Israel. Which is, we've been told John 10, right. I'm the shepherd. So already, you know, you know this has something to do with this. Verse 3, restore us, oh God. Make your face shine upon us that we may be saved.

He says it again in verse 7. Restore us, oh, God Almighty. Make your face shine upon us that we may be saved. And watch what he goes to in verse 8. You brought a vine out of Egypt. Well, who was liberated from Egypt? Israel. Israel.

Israel. Liberation, freedom, like fast forward to Jesus now, he's offering a new liberation, not from some Roman oppressor or Egyptian oppressor, but the evil one as the oppressor, sin as the oppressor. You drove out the nations and planted it, because here we have this idea of garden again. You cleared the ground for it and took root and filled the land. It's a new garden. It's a new creation. They had it in a place they dwell in Canaan, which was this land promised to Abraham. So, I mean, it's a literal place for them.

Well, you got to think of that. You got to think of the garden, too, as a temple. I know we said this all the time, but there's three other passages that echo that same thing. Psalms 92, Ezekiel 47, once you mentioned in the last podcast, and then Psalms 1. But all three of those passages and many more, what they do is they take the predominant. of fruit and the Old Testament centers that fruit production in the temple, in the garden. So in Psalm 92, it says the righteous flourish like the palm tree and they grow like a cedar in Lebanon.

They are planted. Here's that idea of plant fruit in the house, the temple, in the house of the Lord. They flourish in the courts of our God. They still bear fruit in old age. They are ever full of sap and green. then Ezekiel it says, and on the banks and on both sides of the river, remember that stream that was flowing out from the temple, there will grow all kinds of trees for food. Their leaves will neither wither nor their fruit fail, but they will bear fruit, a fresh

fruit every month because the water for them flows from the sanctuary. So their fruit will be food. And then in Psalm 1 and 2 says the same thing about the law that he's like a tree. The man who delights in the law of the Lord is like a tree planted by streams of water that yield its fruit in its seas and it does it, it does not wither. So in John 15, what he's doing is, he's saying that Christ is going to be the cornerstone in the temple. And that's where fruit, now the locust of fruit products is not in the temple. It's in the temple. Jesus Christ himself and then us. And I just read that in Ephesians too. But look, watch how this flows in Psalm 80.

So he said, you brought the vine out of Egypt, you cleared the ground, the mountains were covered with its shade, the mighty cedars with its branches. Now listen to this. It sent out this nation. Its bowels to the sea. It shoots as far as the river. Now, he's talking about probably Euphrates or whatever, but it's symbolic for this living water that Jesus, he's now taking Israel's history and applying it to himself as the true liberator, not just for the nation of Israel, but for everybody. But it is the nation of Israel. Right. And his audience are these 11 guys at this point.

And so then, but watch what the Psalm does. It gets to Jesus. In verse 12, it says, why have you broken down its walls so that all who passed by picked its grapes, bores from the forest, ravage it, and the creatures of the earth of the field, feed on it. Return to us, O God Almighty. Because they're just, all this that God has given. them, they're just wasting it.

And all the nations are, you know, they're getting hooked up with other gods. And, I mean, the same story. Adolatry. Adolatry. But watch what he goes on to say. Verse 15, the root, watch over the vine, the end of 14. After he says, return to us, oh, God Almighty. Look down from heaven.

This is 14. And see, watch over this vine. The root your right hand has planted. Hmm. Who's at the right hand of God? Now we're getting somewhere. The son you have raised up for yourself. Or the branch is another. Or the branch, but he's saying Israel, but that would produce the sun.

That's right. The vine. So verse 16. Your vine is cut down. It is burned with fire at your rebuke. Your people perish because they didn't trust God. Correct. But let your hand.

rest on the man at your right hand. Oh, here we go. Well, who is this? There we go. Watch this phrase. The son of man you have raised up for yourself. Who is that? Remember all though? Go back to every podcast we've done in the past three months. The son of man. Jesus referred to himself as the son of man. Then we will not turn away from you. Revive us. And you're talking about revival. That's what the psalmist was pointing toward in what Jesus would accomplish and we will call on your name Romans 10 everyone who calls on the name of the Lord restore us oh lord god almighty make your face shine upon us that we may be saved which made me think of that passage in corinthians we all reflect the lord's glory you know think of all those passages the lord shines on us in a dark place you know

and Peter said that. So I think that's fascinating. It is fascinating. And you can also read about it. We're not reading them on the podcast, but if you want for your own study. Ezekiel 15, 1 through 5, Isaiah 5, 1 through 7, these same pictures.

And then Zach did a bunch of them from even the water flowing out. It's this idea. And then Paul, to me, is, we mentioned the book of Romans. When he wrote Romans 9, 10, 11, this is exactly the sort of picture he was showing is exactly exactly and the reason we're doing there you say why why is this a big deal because there's a lot of confusion especially in romans 9 10 and 11 about some of the terminology but if you're not looking at this plan through the nation of israel exactly coming down to jesus being

the true israelite think where romans one it says the gospel was first for the jew then for the Gentile, you will get confused. And that's why I brought up this point about the rich young ruler, because some people equate the language to the Jews as, you know, there was an elect part of the Jews that would be saved, that would trust him. But then all of a sudden, that bleeds over to, well, there's only a few people God loves. Yeah. Well, the rich young ruler, what about that? It doesn't make sense. And they come. And they come. up with different arguments. But once you keep it in the context of the flow of God's plan and in Ephesians, the reason I went through that is I skipped over chapter two. But that was all about

this dividing wall of hostility between the Jews and Gentiles, which I just read that in Psalm 80 about tearing down the walls. He would also accomplish that in Jesus so that everyone, this whole plan was so that everyone could have that opportunity to have God dwelling in them. Oh, I love it. That's so good. And it's that idea. Paul talks about that you're grafted in to what, the vine, which is back to this idea that we were at in John 15. So back to John 15, we left off in verse, we read through verse 11. Oh, we read through 11. Yeah, because I wanted to make the point out of that 11th is why I stopped there, that this concept of joy, uh, And that idea of complete, there's that word again about that perfect and mature.

That's probably one of the words. I don't know that it is. I didn't look it up. But the idea that Joy is why he's telling them this, which was very powerful. And so let me read a few more of these verses. Because he just continues and on. And he comes back to this. My command is this.

And here's the point you were making about what commandment are we talking about. Love each other as I've loved you. greater love has no one than this that he lay down his life for his friends which i thought was really interesting he's about to do that literally because he's going to give his life but he's also talking about laying down the life on a daily basis because that's where the whole spirit comes in so it's both i mean very rarely does would one of us have an opportunity to physically give our life it does happen from time to time but everybody has an opportunity to give your life every day.

And that's part of what he's talking about. And I love that he brings up friends here. He gets in that forever family mode. Verse 14 says, you are my friends if you do what I command, which is what, love one another. I no longer call you servants because a servant does not know his master's business.

And I think that's a nod back to the idea of Israel, never really understanding, you know, what God was trying to do with them to make him sons. instead I have called you friends for everything I learned for for everything that I learned from my father I have made known to you so this is a very intimate moment with the disciples you did not choose me but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit fruit that will last then the father will give you whatever you ask in my name that's the second time he said that and then he he ties it off again by saying,

this is my command, love one or another. Yeah. First of all, that word complete is not the same word with this perfection, but it's something just as interesting.

It's to be filled, you know, to the brim. Well, it's kind of like this is the process of you getting the spirit. So it's like when he,

I'll tell you, the other places he used it in John. He used it in John 329, John the Baptist, when he said, the friend who attends the bridegroom waits and listens for him and is full, same word. Oh, yeah. Completed with joy. When he hears the bridegroom. So he's filled with joy. Well, the spirit, all these attributes, the fruit of the spirit, goes back to the actual spirit. because that's what really the Bible is about when you think about it. I think the relational aspect of, it's like Jesus died on the cross and you could give

50 reasons why that's powerful, motivating. But the number one is who was on the cross. It wasn't just because other people have been sacrificed or had injustice, but who was on that cross? And it's the same point with. who you have inside of you, you know, the spirit, you're filled with that. And the outflow of that is, is the fruit, you know. Well, think about the real-time application of, of, of, of what he says here in John 15, that I've chosen you, you didn't choose me. Well, he's speaking to the 11 disciples who have remained after he's just told one of them that you're going to betray me.

and Judas and John 13 leaves. So he's literally not abiding, like in a real literal sense. He's not actually abiding with Christ. He was a branch that just branched off, right? He is, he's the branch. So he says in John 156,

anyone who does not abide to me, he's thrown away like a branch that withers and the branches are gathered and thrown into the fire and burn. And literally when Judas, he leaves, he's not abiding in Christ, and you see the rest of his life,

there's zero fruit production. There's only destruction. in the end for him. But why? Well, he walked away. He wasn't apart. He didn't abide at Christ. Now, to the 11 that are left here, that's who he's speaking to, they're that

representation of those, like us. When we abide in him, look at the fruit that came out of those 11. I mean, a lot of what we're reading here in the Bible came from some of the 11 that were in that room that Jesus is telling them, like, yeah, you're going to do incredible things. but the emphasis is on the production of fruit more than anything else here, what they're going to actually produce by abiding in Christ themselves. Well, yeah, and if you look at those verses about,

it gets back to this idea of you think you're choosing God, but what happens is when you choose God and start studying and start reading, then you realize, oh, he's been pursuing me the whole time. Yeah. And I think that's, and I've done this before, But, you know, think about the 1st Corinthians 8, and this kind of goes back to the rich young ruler. When it says knowledge puffs up, but love builds up, just think there's the what you think you know versus who you know. Because when you know Jesus, then all of a sudden you're like, oh, he chose me before the beginning of the time.

I thought I was like doing it in my favor here. And that 1st Corinthians, Z 8 says, the man who thinks he knows. something, this is 8-2, does not yet know as he ought to know. But the man who loves God, and here's the key phrase, is known by God. So that's the realization that we all have. We're like, all right, I love God. And then when you start looking into who he is, you're like, oh, he knows me. He's been knowing me. He knows me better than anyone. He knew me and my mother's boom. I mean, it goes back to that kind of thinking, and I think that's why he makes statements like that. He makes a similar statement in 1 John 4, which I've been asked about this many times,

when it says, this is love, not that we love him, but that he loves us. 410. So listen, same phrase. This is love, 1 John 410, not that we love God. Why is he saying that? because love comes from God is the answer. And he had just said that phrase I just said in a previous verse. And also, just to back up a little bit in 1 John 4,7, let us love one another for love comes from God. So it's the same concept here.

So back to verse 10, this is love, not that we love God, but that he loved us and sent his son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. So I think that's what he's... And then he closes, in 19, he says, we love because he first loved us. If anyone says, I love God, yet hates his brother. He is a liar. And then here's the famous granny verse.

How many times do we hear this growing up, Jay's? For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he hath seen that she used to do... Yeah. Cannot love God whom he hath not seen. Well, right. And it goes back to this being born again, also, even in the first John 4,

It's like anyone who is born of God, that's where love originates with you. Because now you receive God's spirit, which is love, just like the nature of God. So think about when he said being born of water in the spirit, you know, in John 3. It all goes back to that, even in John 1, where he's like, you're born again, not based on your kind of decision or like, oh, I'm going to make a choice. and I'm going to give birth to royalty, and he has that illustration in John 1,12, but you're born of God. This was his plan,

and you are now in a position to realize that I'm the one who started this. I'm the one who chose you to be here on the earth. Think Act 17, you know. He gives all men life, breath, and everything else. Why did he do it? So that we would seek him and perhaps reach out for him. him and find him. But when you find him, you realize, oh, he was looking for me the whole time.

I mean, that is the way to wrap your head around that, because it says it over and over. I love the way John, too, compares it's love or lie. And you remember that third time when Satan went to Jesus and said, we can rule together. In other words, all you got to do is just bring me into the phone. Remember what Jesus said, worship the Lord your God and serve him only? There's no, you can't have love and lie together. We can't hold hands with Satan and somehow think that we're going to get through, you know, well, we'll just, you know, we're going to understand at that. No, it has to be one or the other.

Satan can't be a part of that because he's not left, which is where we're headed next on the text because he talks about hate. Yeah, and it goes back to that tree in the branches. The tree came first here. You're a branch in the tree. Right. You're like, well, I want to just be my own tree. Well, that's the other side of the world.

Now you've got the evil ones request and saying, and that's how it works. I mean, because it's tricky to read that. Like, why is he making a point of that? He's like, remain in me. All right, well, we're out of time yet again. But I feel like we're making progress. We actually got into half of this text, and it's so rich and so good. So we're hoping that you're following along with us.

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