Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 1224 | Jase Is Horrified by the Latest Fake News About Him & Willie

Episode Date: December 8, 2025

Jase comes in fired up after spotting a fake news post about himself, Willie, and Miss Kay — and he’s not moving on until he clears the air. Meanwhile, Al rounds up his brothers and Uncle Si in the duck blind for opening day, and it becomes obvious fast who can actually hunt…and who absolutely cannot. Plus, Jase uncovers something on his property that even a treasure-hunting expert can’t identify — and has a bizarre run-in with a stranger in the middle of nowhere. Chapters: 00:00 Jase is FED UP with the latest fake news AI post  04:57 Jase's latest treasure hunt  15:50 First duck season opening day without Phil  24:55 Phil's game warden suspicions  37:00 Zach was an early fan of Jase's teaching & preaching  39:30 Recent baptism story  41:50 Al's sermon alliteration  44:20 Jase's stranger encounter — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So welcome back to Unashame. We've had quite the week. Oh, yeah. It's been a busy. It's only been a few days since we were here, but a lot has happened. And a lot has happened. We did some extra podcast this week because we're trying to kind of work through the holiday situation. So put us in the room together a lot more, which is a blessing. I mean, it's good stuff. I did want to send my condolates as I saw you and Willie, picture of you and Willie Jays hold each other hugging and crying. Yeah, y'all thought that was funny. Fake news is alive and well.

Some degenerate out there that is under the captivity of the evil one put some kind of blurb that I couldn't even pick up because I can't get into the social media world due to password. It came from me. One of my kids sent it to me, and it was one of these fake Facebook things. And it was a picture of mom in a hospital bed, near death, of course. We've been doing the near death now for a while. Well, that's all I saw when you sent it to you.

But in the back corner is Willie and Jace. And how they did this, I don't know. Because I've never been in that position in my life. Even solo, right? No, it's never happened. Not only is it fake, that position. has never happened where we're face to face. They're like, they're like beard to beard.

They're both crying and they're in a sweet embrace of... But the picture is best. You know, it's AI because they got, it's like mascara is running. Yeah, it's like y'all were wearing mascara and you started crying. And it's not even really mom. It's like a, it's not mom. See, now that we're talking about it, other people are going to go and... Well, they will, which is unfortunate.

None of this was true. But here's the thing, Jay. some people saw this and wondered if it was true. So we're clarifying that. There's a lot of lessons. You're spending way too much time on Facebook. Oh, yeah. If you're believing this stuff, you're an idiot.

Which now I know, because three or four people sent me texts asking about mom. And now you know why. Yeah, that's it. And Missy said the same thing. She's been in Nashville. She'd come back. She was like, I think there's some fake news out there. The irony is that this comes out.

mom's actually doing the best she's done in months. Oh, and a year. Yeah, she's so good. She's doing so well that she came to church yesterday for the first time in a long time. Well, that's good. Which was awesome. And everybody got to see her. She's still working on her mobility, so she was in her wheelchair.

But she was happy. I preached yesterday, and so she was excited about being there for that. And it was just all her little friends came over and surrounded her and sat with whether it was just, it was really a special day. So the irony was that that came out the same day, and my kid showed it to jail. I will say this, the only, Jay's says Jay's doesn't like it at all, but it made me laugh so hard because the idea of the two of them,

cheek to cheek is just, you know, that would never happen. It's just, that's what makes us something. That was good. I did enjoy that picture. I sent it to Zach, I sent it to Maddie just for fun, but. We all got a good laugh out of it. We did. No, not we all.

No, no. Jace found it not for me. No, I find nothing humorous about that whatsoever. And I would probably say that if there was ever going to be a lightning strike to whoever masterminded that. I mean, I think that's getting struck down material. Is that is it wrong? The less he likes it, the more it makes me laugh. It's more funny it is.

I mean, it really. I don't like to laugh at evil behavior. But, Oh, man. Well, I've got a good. I mean, I'm tipped it just Somebody take a drink Because I'm getting my tissues out.

Take a drink. Everybody's wearing their poncho shirts today, by the way. Jason, did you get a new one? You had to go down a size to your medium. Is that a medium? Is that going to break something down for you? I quit shopping before I ever started. I've been wearing these a while.

And so they are sponsoring us. Yeah, you and Willie were telling me How great they were for a while. So now Jason and I get to experience them, which is great. Well, that's all Willie wears now. Well, having said that, it is a comfortable shirt. Very comfortable. And so, look.

And look, it's the, as they say, Zach, it is the season where you're looking for something to buy, you know, for your man, for your son, for, you know, somebody and your family. So it's definitely a great time in the gift-giving season to check out Pancho outdoors. Well, speaking of gifts, so you're not going to believe what happened to him. I go treasure hunting last Thursday. I had a rare day off, Al. I know it. So I went treasure hunting. Well, my friends at Garrett had sent me a new detector that it's one that I have my name on.

So, but they sent me a new one. I was like, okay. So I go out. Well, the settings, you know, the factory settings or whatever, they are what they are. So I thought I'll just try this. and I go out there and I mean I just put a whoopin on my party as far as finds one Murray, and Randy, the redneck is what we affectionately call him. And Murray is your mentor.

He's the one who got you into it. And look, they, you know, it's usually about even. And the last time we went out, they found more than I did. So this was a little unusual. And I think the spot had something to do with it. But they had already hunted for a couple hours before I got there because I had a little man that morning, and so I was late getting there.

But I found one little spot that I found about eight or ten buttons. I'll post a picture here for you that are watching that you can see this. And I found like a war nickel, a silver nickel. I found an 1893 Indian head. But some of these buttons were spectacular. A couple of silver war. buttons and you see there's gold on a couple of them. So it's awesome.

So I was, when I was coming home, I thought, I think this new detector, I mean, maybe they've enhanced the software. I was thinking, it's just the detector. Yeah. And so fast forward to yesterday after the sermon and all that, I had to go pick up our Nicaraguan daughter, Karina, at the airport. She's in for the week? she's in for the week, which is all my family are trickling in because it's the holidays.

The trickle. The trickle began. Cole's here. He had his gun and he's ready to go duck hunting before church. And I'm like, no, we're not going. We went yesterday, opening day, and we'll tell you about that, which was a special day. And so I decided to go to my old home place, our state out there that we've turned into a bed and breakfast, log town, which I've hunted hundreds of times. because I'm thinking, I got this new detector, and I really think maybe, you know, I might.

You have success with it, so now you're thinking. I may find something that I missed with the former version of this is what I was thinking. Then I only had an hour. I walk out there in my front yard. I have hunted here hundreds of times than other people have. There's nothing left out there, you know, in my mind. And I dug up a few big nails, because I'm digging. up all signals and all of a sudden my detector goes off and out pops this little round thing.

It wasn't like a high coin signal, which is what shocked me. But it was green because it just had so much corrosion on it and just a film of green, whatever that is. And so I start getting a stick and here I go. And I'm cleaning it up as I go. well, the more I clean, the more I start seeing silver emerge on the sides. And I think, I think this may be a silver coin. And then I could see a hole in it where I know what that means.

Usually back in the 17, 1800s, if it's a silver coin, they would drill a hole in it and wear it as a necklace. And it was pretty close to where I had found a Spanish real. But it just didn't feel like one of those Spanish reels. But I thought that's what it was. So I finally get it where I can take a picture. picture of it. I sent it to my expert because some writing emerged on it. And my expert said, I think that's a, he said, I'm not sure what that is. And look, I've been doing this with this guy for about 10 years. And he always knows. This is the first time he said, I'm not sure what that is.

He said, it looks like an Austrian cruiser or something like that. So I started looking up but it didn't feel right. So when I get home, I cleaned it better. And that's all I had to go on. So my son calls there. He gets the magnifying glass. He's got better eyes than I got. And as we continued to clean this thing,

he could read all the letters. So I typed in all the letters around it. And up pops a 1750-something coin from Germany. This is, and I brought the coin. It's hard to see without a magnanimation. a fine glass, but it probably looks a little green there, but I have a close-up once I cleaned it, but check

that out of it. It's a German coin? German Brusion. So how did it give you? No, it's a German Prusion. They made it from 1750 to 1840. So here's the question. It's so thin. What is that doing in my yard?

Yeah, I get it. Somebody was wearing this. They got the land grant in 1780. and I'm in the place in my yard that was a blacksmith shop where all the iron is. And so they were doing some work. Somebody had a necklace. And, you know, a fight broke out about Germany in 1780 or whatever.

And drop this coin. You wouldn't believe how thin this is. It's very thin. It's 250 years old. That's amazing. One of the finer fines, even though it is in terrible condition. But if you look at it through a magnifying glass, You can see it.

You're like, oh, wow. And the picture. I had another question. You said, how did it get there? There's another question that everybody's asking is what? How much is it worth? In this condition, not much, but to me, it's priceless. Yeah.

I mean, when you pick it up, Al, could you see any identifiable? Nothing. You can barely see the writing on the sides of it, you know, with reading glasses. Under a microscope, you can read the whole thing. You can definitely see the hole in it. Well, I'll show you, like, the picture, Al, that I took, the last one once I cleaned it as far as I was comfortable, it really pops out, and you can see it. Oh, yeah, then you can read all the letters. Oh, you can read all the letters.

I can't even see that with the naked eye. I'll put that on there. So, look, anyway, so I called my guys at Garrett, and I was like, what did you do to this machine? Because now I'm finding German coins. I'm out doing my buddy. Because you know you've gone over that spot before. I've walked over that spot 50 times. And I don't know.

And they said, oh, we've changed nothing. They said, you must have change your settings. And we concluded that I had turned up my sensitivity on my machine. Yeah. And that was the trick for my. So I've been waiting for you to tell another story. because I've been doing a little advanced study for when we get to first, second, third, John.

And one of the guys that I'm reading had talked about how the Bible study was like, it takes effort to get there. And he mentioned this verse, and you may have read it before, I'm sure you have, but I didn't remember it. But it's from Proverbs 2. It says if you call out for insight

and cry aloud for understanding, if you look for that yet as for silver and a search for hidden treasure, then you will understand the fear of the Lord and find the knowledge of God. So I thought that was interesting that Solomon laid that out, that exactly what you just described is the same way we should approach the Word of God and understanding, which I thought was... Well, there are so many references to, you know, Jesus made the same references.

I mean, think Luke 15 and the lost coin. But what's so fascinating about that story is, which I hadn't noticed for the first 30 years of my Christian life, is it's this concept of heaven rejoicing, earth rejoicing together, heaven and earth rejoicing together. And, hey, if that's causing a celebration, and Jesus is using that as an illustration for joy, might already give it a try.

I mean, I'll put it in the category like duck hunting, because usually we duck hunt every day. Right. But this year, we have weird conditions where it's a drought. I mean, today's the first day it's rain. There actually is a little liquid. And it's a drizzle.

But in a month, and the river is way low. So we had opening day Saturday, and all that was kind of special. It was. And we had told you guys in the last podcast, we were going to do this, and we did it. And I don't know if I said it in the last podcast, but I had sort of sent a challenge out.

I knew Jason would be there opening day, but I'd send a challenge out after dad crossed over that I was going to be in the blind opening day. And so I was like, so I sent it to Willie and Japp. I said it would be awesome if like all the brothers were together. Because we hadn't been together in a blind. None of us couldn't remember the last time. Because there's probably been three of us that didn't he given to, but all four.

All four, I mean, I think probably you'd go back to when we were teenagers. I mean, we're talking about a long time. Early 20s. So it was the four of us, and it was Uncle Sy. And Cy hadn't been hunting much because of his condition of, you know, with his breathing, he can't do a lot of moving around. But he's doing a lot better, so don't put some weird posts out there, me and Willie. Y'all crying.

And then, of course, Stone, who's my son-in-law, you guys know, was there. Because Stone is kind of the nerve center of the whole operation. You can't already hunt without Stone anymore because he knows where. Well, all the people you just listed, somebody's got to help me do some work. That's right. Which was me and stuff. Decoys had to go out. Motion things had to be put in motion.

So we hunted. We wondered if Willie was. going to make it. Apparently he did make it because I saw the, at least he made it for the pitcher. He was there. He was there for at least two hours. No, he was, I mean, I got there early and he was already there. He was the first one that I got there. We were supposed to be there at 5. We're leaving at 5.30, which usually means I wondered who would be the first one there. I never thought it'd be Willie. When I got there at 5, Willie and Jay, Willie and Si were already there. And Cy's always early, but Willie said now he's an old man's a, so he said, he'd just

been somewhere at Dave Ramsey said, they get up every morning. at 445, so I started getting up early with him on this trip. I assumed he had never slept. I didn't ask him. I just figured, oh, the only reason he's here, he hadn't slept. Actually, he had gone to bed at 8.30 the night before. Well, he told me, because I was with him in San Diego, and they arrived at San Diego, and I thought, well, let's go grab dinner.

Let's go, you know, let's go to do something. It was about, I don't know, 8 o'clock. And he said, no, I'm actually about to go to bed. Yeah. I said at 8 o'clock. He said, well, yeah, we've been, I've been hanging out with these guys, and they go to bed at 8.30. That's what he told me. So I was, yeah, so I got, yeah, I got in on, I got rejected, you know, for dinner because he was going to get a bit of 80.

Well, Willie may get back into duck hunting because the one thing that he had always not done it was because he didn't like getting up early. That was, he likes to deer on because he can do that later in the day. But we had a blast. It was fun. And our expectations were super low. Jason just described the setting. We expect, most of us expected not even. fire shotgun.

And we wound up killing seven ducks. Well, and eight, there was one that went way down. Oh, yeah. You found it. Yeah. So I got a question about your duck hunt, though, because I mean, I wasn't there. I just saw the pictures. The outfits, it looked like people were, they were, and not everybody was wearing

camo. It was like, I was like, Phil was real particular about all that kind of stuff. And it's like, he's gone. It was a lot more loose than one dad. I will say. I was like, I mean, Jeff's got on a blue shirt, a blue shirt. or blues. I thought Jeff was wearing,

when I walked up to Jeff, I was like, man, you got some fancy waiters there. I thought he had some of those trout waiters that we wore in Alaska that are kind of grayish blue. But they actually, it was some kind of track suit he was wearing with high boots. That was just his outfit.

Well, I anticipated that, because these, my brothers, have turned in the yuppies. We've been out of practice. There was so much. much brush on that blind. I planted trees in front of it that they had

to shoot through. So I didn't care if they wore, because I anticipated somebody wearing like Hunter's Orange or, you know, just, but I knew you weren't coming, Zach, so I thought maybe that won't happen. Yeah, Zach would have had his

Elmer Fudd out on. I mean, Al's got on gray. I had on camo. I mean, yeah, I mean, none of you The only three out of the six that look like they're hunters, the picture I'm looking at is Jay, Jason, Si. And everybody else is like, you just stated the obvious. They're the only people that I heard.

You had the real hunters and then you had the fake hunters. Well, let me just add this in as a caveat for me, Willie, and Jeff. I can't speak for Willie because he should have it somewhere. But they also are the only ones getting sponsored gear anymore. I'm digging back in tubs that I hadn't dug into in 10 years. That's true. They got their, yeah,

Jay's got on the good tailwaters. They're still, like, connected to the company and all the cool stuff, so I don't have that anymore. Jep's wearing, I'm looking at it right here. He's got on blue,

but he's got on Duck Commander gear, but it looks like it's blue or gray with some purple boots. I don't know what's going on. I think he's going through a midlife hunting crisis. But he rode down with you and back with me, so I had to get that. So don't bury the lead, though.

What's fascinating, we said a prayer, we talked about Phil, carrying on his legacy. We tell a lot of really cool dad's stories because we were filming some of it for Duck Commander, too. I think it's on Duck Commander's website if you want to go check it out.

What's crazy is we had a few wood ducks come in for the first 30 minutes, which is kind of quite unusual, but two came in on mine and Psy's side and Cy shockingly shot pretty good. He's shooting a 20 gauge. He shot one duck and four decoys on the first.

The first white. Yeah, but he shot at his on the right, and we both missed the first shot, boom, boom. But then he at the corner of my eye saw he killed his on the second shot. On my second shot, I addled the duck, so I was getting closer. And then he was coming on the left side of the blind. So it was nowhere in front of the blind, but we had a cameraman, which was my excuse for not shooting as well as I normally do. I'm literally having to shoot around a cameraman. He was low, but he was right next to you.

He was, and I was like, if I can hit this duck, this will be a spectacular scene. Although you might ring his ears. And so he had said I got air protections to just go for it. So the third shot, boom, and he folded just right. I mean, it looked like I was watching the movie being made, but I was shooting. I was participating. Because you had a GoPro in the blind and you had outside of the show. And I could see the cameraman.

And so, well, that duck, we didn't go pick up immediately, but about 30 minutes later, the cameraman went out and got that duck, and it had a ban. Yeah. Which actually, so the first duck killed of the day, or close to the first, was actually a banded duck, which was, we took that as a sign that this was a blessing that we should be doing. You know, it was a great sign. And for y'all who don't know what that means, the government puts what we, called jewelry. It looks silver, but it's not, because it is the government.

Some kind of alloy. They put a number, and you turn the number in, and they give you this nice little certificate and tells you where the duck was from. And it's how they track migration patterns is the purpose of my. And it's how they buy ducos. So if you keep turning in the same number, the same place, they'll show up in your yard. It'll turn it to a sanctuary. No, I don't know that for a fact. I don't want the government to come get me. But I'm just saying that would be. makes sense, you know. Well, what was one of the stories that Willie told was so funny? I hadn't thought about it in years, but he was saying,

Dad used to tell it, we were younger, and dad was much more suspicious about Game Orans and all that from his bad years. So when we were all young, he would give us this whole speech, usually open a day, and it'd be like, gay morning shows up, here's my duck stamp, here's my license, and nothing else. You give no information, nothing extra. You don't tell them what we're doing. You don't tell them what we saw. You don't tell them what you're drinking this morning.

Delameda. Well, in your sermon yesterday, which was excellent, Al. You made that reference about Phil's idea of heaven was Cypress, swamps, and the earth in its original form, no power lines, and you can shoot ducks and fish, and there's not a game warden around because there's no game warden's going to be in heaven, boys. That was his opening line. But anyway, hey, hey, hey, hey, I mean, it was a joke, but the game wardens, you know, who I did that as my opening, and I said, so maybe, maybe, maybe, if.

That's all true. But somehow without a body, Dad may be having a better opening day than we did. Yeah. That was kind of my open. Oh, it was good. Your energy was more than normal, which was good. You know, it's one of those things, Jay,

because it's been a long week. We did a lot of podcasts this week. I spoke at CR on Friday night, and that place just gives you energy. But it's like when we do an event, I tell Lisa all the time, you know, you've got a long line of people to selling books or whatever,

meeting people to meet and greet. And I always like, I want the last person in the line to have the best experience because they waited in the line to meet you. And I'm thinking, I don't want to like, I'm tired because we're all doing this and taking pictures to over know. But I'm like, I don't want them to suffer because, you know, it's at the end of the line. So I felt like that way about the sermon. So I've been praying all week. I was like, give me supernatural energy to deliver this. And it wasn't hard because I was in Acts 2.

and the power of the gospel is seen through the lives of those first believers. And, man, if that doesn't get you fired up, I don't know what would get you fired up anyway. Yeah, y'all were doing a series about the Acts 2.42. It's called Forever Family. They devoted themselves, the apostles teaching, the fellowship, the breaking of bread, prayer. Everyone's filled with all many wonders and signs were done by the apostles. All the believers were together and had everything in common. Where was your section?

My section was 44 through 47A. Yeah, selling their possessions and goods that, yeah, that was where you started. They gave to anyone as he had in need, as he had need. Every day they continued to meet together in Temple Corts. They broke bread and their homes, ate together with glad and sincere hearts, praising God and enjoying the favor of the people and the Lord added to their number daily, those who were being saved. So I had the middle section of that, and that was what I was assigned.

And so I had to like talk about that text. The hard part for me was since I'm number three or four in a line of sermons about that text, I couldn't help but kind of jump out and give the whole bigger picture of what it was about. Well, I think that's what we should do on Sunday mornings. Yeah. I mean, it's a celebration of the new creation, which is what the Sunday should represent. I did a little kind of alliteration thing about, because when I look at it, looked at that text, I thought, man, that's that, we're in the light. I used the word glow,

which then took me, but I was like, you can't glow unless you know. Oh, Al, you know who I thought of when you, what was the politician slash preacher? Jesse Jackson? You went Jesse Jackson. Look, hey, Zach, Al's points were you got to glow, you need to grow, so you can go. But it all starts with who you know. That was the, It all starts with who you know. I thought Al's turned into Jesse Jackson. What's interesting about that passage you were in, I was with, when I was in San Diego,

I had dinner with this couple that they're part of an Anababaptist movement in, I want to say upstate New York, but very interesting people, but they have taken that verse very literal and very serious. Oh, yeah. It's like 3,000 people that are, are a part of their church. And this thing has been going on since the early, like 1912 or something, this particular

group. They moved from Germany, they went from Germany to England and then settled, I think, in the U.S. in the early 1900s. So they've been at this a while, but it was, I was really shocked by the whole thing, but they have a shared general purse. So they live it out. They're like nobody, the whole community, nobody gets paid. Everybody puts money.

They all work, but the money goes into one central, like, deal, and then everybody's taken care of. Everybody's, I mean, they kind of living that out. It's really interesting to me. These Anabaptists that have taken this, like that. And there's been other communities that have practiced that, Amish and a lot of other people. There are different things. You know, there's different kind of things that go with each group in a modern sense.

But I do see where the idea comes from, which. is, which is not bad for a community, because, you know, obviously we live in some place. Yeah. So you have that community of where you live. But the only problem I see that with the mindset there is that's why I hit the thing at the end about you got to go, because the idea is it's real easy to get self-absorbed as a community. Because you've got to realize we're trying to reach the whole world with the message.

Well, that's why it's so confusing, I think, in the Bible, like in the New Testament. Because people, it's a legitimate question saying, well, why do you meet a whole? Sunday because in Acts yeah they were to meet every day well right there's no I mean there's one obscure verse in chapter 20 and verse 7 but I mean might have just been the first day it's not like he was making a point about it and they mainly met on the Sabbath and then these apostles would come in there and share Jesus that's that's what's happening exactly and so they were kind of meeting out necessity when they could too. Like if they had somebody there that was coming through,

especially as you get into the epistles, I mean, it was like what Paul would roll in and like one instance, he preached all night. He was like, hey, I ain't going to be here for long. Yeah, well, in one of my internet Bible studies I have going on, that this guy made this point. He was like, well, we should be meeting on the Sabbath because that's what they did in the book of Acts.

And I responded just off the top of my head. I was like, so let me get this right. let's say every Friday night, because you had preached to celebrate recovery, I go to the local bar and share Jesus, which would be acceptable in doing Jesus style reaching out and sharing. Right. And it has success. You know, there's a few of them, because I'm pretty sure if I went to the bar every Friday night and shared, there might be one or two that would say, hear the story, because it's not me. It's the powers in the message to your point. And I can almost guarantee you there's going to be a few people in that setting. The reason they're there is their life's probably not going so well. Well, right.

So they would be looking for some. So let's say I do this every week, a long period of time, and we develop a church from it, from sharing Jesus. So do you conclude, well, we need to start meeting in bars? Yeah. To me, that's the point, because I'm like, they were meeting on the Sabbath but then the apostles were coming in and sharing Jesus, and it wasn't going well. They were pushing back.

So I think when you're viewing the Bible as a rule book, these are the things you get into. So to his point, which was a valid point, he's like, well, the church or Christianity just made this up meeting on Sunday. And I'm like, yeah, I think they did. because on Sunday it launched a new creation. Jesus was raised on a Sunday. So I think that's that. The other thing of this that stands out is they were meeting in homes,

which I still think is a good thing. Good thing. As part of your, what would you call it? Well, I made it the point, Zach, out of that that it really was a temple transition. I mean, these first Christians, all they had ever known was the temple. So of course, that's where they're going to go.

That's where their whole link to God had always been. But then you see that transition, even starting in the, right there, where not only where they meeting at the temple, but they were also meeting in their homes. Yeah, exactly. The temple transition was happening right there in the moment. And then by the time you get down. And then a few years after that, they weren't meeting in the temple because that thing got burned to the ground.

And look, to your point about Acts 8, whenever Jesus had told them to scatter, but look, things were so exciting and dynamic. Nobody wanted to leave Jerusalem. That's true. Until guess what happened? Persecution broke out big time, and then guess what happened? They had to go. And the persecution that broke out, broke out because somebody said something about the temple, which is the guy named Stephen. They killed him. And then the church. Yeah, it is interesting how God works that way. And we had a, so at our church, Jill had a, she does a thing a couple times you're where all the women from our area come and they do like a big worship night and prayer and this time they had testimonies and it was we've been in the book of exodus for

the last i don't know i just just wrapped exodus this sunday so we're actually moving did you barnstorm your way out of exodus did you lead did you lead them out of the slavery yesterday i let them i let them to the i let them out of slavery to the promise land and to the did you have some alliteration in yours did you go jesse jackson like No, I can't. You know what? I try to preach that way. It's just not your style.

I'm more like Jace. Me and Jace have very similar styles. You do. That's why y'all clash so much. Well, you know what growing up, I mean, when I was like cutting my teeth on the Bible, Jase was my favorite preacher. And I always love what he would preach because he would, he still does this. He does what he tells stories in this podcast.

You don't know where he's going. It's like, you're, I mean, he's a great storyteller. say you're hanging on, but I'm like, how's this? And then somehow he'll go over 30, 40 minutes, and then that's that last four minutes, it's like he ties it all together. You're like, oh, my gosh. Yeah, there was it.

Oh, wow. So that's kind of how I teach. Yeah. Yeah, I tied all it at the end. But what was interesting about this event that Jill had, they had a moment of response. There's 300 women in the church, you know, and they have a moment for prayer response,

you know, for people to meet with guys. God. And one of the little girls there, her name is Mabel. Jill was telling me later about this. He said she had gone in the back. And I didn't know we had this at our church, but apparently we have a model of a tabernacle in the kids' wing. When they teach the kids, it's like a model. And so she goes back there, Mabel, and she steals the Ark of the Covenant, just like the Philistines. And she's trying to get to the front of the church when they're responding. She said, I got to get to this arc of the covenant on the stage. Like this, these people are looking for the Lord.

And she's like, I got to get this on the stage. She was so moving. She was turning back the clock, would you? But I was like, you know, I preached on it Sunday. I said, you know, it's so funny. She got it so wrong, but she got it so right, the faith of a child. It's like, I know that they're looking for God's presence. And I've been listening to these sermons and God's presence is on top of that arc of

the code on that mercy seat. I got to get this thing on the stage. I thought, man, that's funny. It was if she let y'all left it in there this week, somebody could have come in and put something else in front of it, and when y'all came back, it would be all busted up all over the floor. I worried about that. I said, we're not Philistines here, so I told her parents,

I said, you probably will be caught in for church discipline just because your daughter literally stole the Ark of the Covenant out of the... Well, it was a neat ending yesterday, and you probably didn't get to see this, Jase, because I don't know where they end it when they'd live stream it, But there was a man there with his family, and he had sent a note, I think, through Bonnie, your assistant, that he was wanting to get baptized by one of the Robertsons, if he could. And he was like, I know it doesn't matter who it is. He said the right thing.

And it doesn't, by the way. And he said, but he said, you know, these guys have made a huge impact my life. I'm ready to change my life. And we're going to be coming through at some point. And so I just sent a note back and so, well, I'll be there 23rd. I'll be preaching. I don't mind. I don't know Jay's schedule.

And so he was there yesterday. He and his family, and he's from Texas. And I recognized him right off, and he had been to Jersey's class. So, you know, Jersey goes through the gospel every Sunday. He kind of does what dad did. And I went over and met, he and his family. And he's like, no, this is brand new. We don't even have a church or nothing, you know.

He said, but you guys have impacted him. And I'm ready to get this going. He had three kids with him and his wife. And Felipe is his name. And so I baptized him afterwards. And it was really cool because, I was like, well, this sermon was for you, dude. I said, you realize now what you got to do?

I said, this is your introduction to Jesus. Here's what you got to do. But afterwards, we had a prayer and stood in a circle. And it was just a really cool experience because I told his kids, I said, and look your dad, you know, he's brand new. I said, so he's going to, you know, stumble his way through trying to figure this out. And I'm looking, they're just looking at me, like their eyes are locked in. I said, but you've got to be his biggest supporters.

You got to be on board. you guys got it when you get involved in some community where you guys live because they live in the austin area i said we'll help you guys find a good church uh you know good grace-based church and they just were looking at me i said y'all think y'all are up for the challenge and all three of them said yes sir well that's what i thought about because i had mentioned dad you know the same way and i thought we were this family at one point you know yeah you just always remember speaking of, wasn't it, Jesse Jackson? Sounds like something Jesse Jackson would say

when he said some rhyme, when he said, the most important thing you can do is not give your kids presence, but be present. Oh, yeah, that's good. You know, either have them in your presence or whatever since I guess we've developed that thing.

I was looking out a while ago that there was some rhyme, but the AI said it was Muhammad Ali. I thought it was Jesse Jackson. Excellent. But where he said, If your mind, if your mind can conceive it and your heart will believe it,

then you will work hard to achieve it. Which, it's so reminding me of Al yesterday with the glow, which I actually thought that, Al, your, did you just come up with that off the top of your head? I mean, it was pretty impressive. Next thing you know you're going to be reading Dr. Seas books, but you can figure out

Well, that's one of my favorite, my favorite all-time Jesse Jackson. He was on Saturday Night Live 30 years ago, and he was reading Dr. Seuss. And it was so funny because the joke was that this man speaks like Dr. Seuss. And so he did this whole thing. And then some guy from Saturday Night Live was on there with him. And he said, this guy not only denies the allegations, he denies the allocator. But somebody's, I know a brother that used to be here years ago. that has moved on. He sent me this, this weekend. It was perfect timing.

And it doesn't have any description or anything. He just sent it to me, Larry. God formed us. Sin deformed us. The Bible informs us, but Jesus transforms us. Well, what I was going to say about that presence. I mean, this, in Acts, what you see is what I think, we're acting like, oh, well, it can't be like this, but I think it should. I mean, it comes back to your house. What's going on at your house? What's going on at your workplace? and you're meeting together. We were raised in that environment because our parents were sharing Jesus

with so many people. Just because of where we lived, we met in homes. I mean, we would Sunday morning all gather up, as Phil used to say, and meet with the brothers. That's how he framed it, which I think is a good way,

and it should be a celebration. But it's a lot of work when you have people in your home with the food that's being prepared But it looked. Our teenage years and early 20s looked a lot like this model. Would you agree?

Absolutely. Because people were hearing Jesus. I mean, I didn't tell you on my treasure hunt Thursday. So I had, the group left me. I'm finding all this stuff, which I didn't conceal it. When I came up, because I noticed they were all around their vehicles. And I said, look, I just found three buttons. And, you know, I found a,

a couple of wheat pennies, and they're like, no, we're going somewhere else, which is a treasure hunt temptation. You always think that somewhere over the rainbow, there's the promised land. And I was like, well, I'm staying right here. Yeah. So I like, okay. And so hours later, I'm way away from where I part my truck. I'm in my own little world. I'm finding stuff.

And I just looked up, and there's a guy kind of scruffy looking, standing right in front of me, in the middle of the of this field, half a mile from my truck. So I looked at my truck way off in the distance, and his truck is beside my truck. But I have an earphone zone, so, you know, I didn't realize he was, but it scared me. And so you know what I do when I get scared. Confront.

Confront. And I said, what's your story? You know, that's a feel line. Everybody's got one. And he didn't say much. He just, he kind of mumbled something. And I said, if a man will walk half a mile, he bound to have a reason. He's got to have something to say.

And he said, well, I know your daughter. He said, out at Camp Chioca. So I said, oh, I said, well, that was my next question. I said, are you a follower of Jesus? Well, he just looked at me. And I said, the hesitation is answering my question. And he said, well, I was going to say I'm kind of on the fence. But I've heard a preacher say that if you're on the fence, you're in the devil's pasture because there's no fence.

He started preaching his own sermon. And answering his own question. What's funny is I only asked about five questions. And he did all the talking. Yeah. But it was more like that. Yeah. well, I'm trying.

And I was like, well, what do you mean? What are you trying? What are you doing? He's like shaking his head. So I said, look, it's obvious the Lord sent you out here because you have no reason for being here. And he said, well, I live here, and I thought that was you, and I just wanted to come see.

And I was like, well, why didn't you just turn around and leave when you got confirmation? This is the way this conversation went. And so I just gave an overview the book of John. I said, do you have a Bible? He said, yes, sir. Then he started saying, sir, which I thought, okay, we've changed the dynamic here. I said, you need to go home and read that and figure out who Jesus is for yourself.

And go all in. Right. Because what's crazy about this is usually you're all in or you're all out. The stuff in between, we justify, we rationalize. I said, but I mean, all I did was ask you three questions, and you didn't have very good answer. Yeah. And, you know, I was equating that to when we stand before God, you should probably be able to articulate your position and view of the Son of God. Yeah, where you are.

Yeah. And so he said, I'm going to do that. So I said, all right, well, here comes another one. Because I look, here comes another guy. I thought, what is going on here? And he turned around and looked. He said, who's that? I said, I don't know, but I'm fixed to have the same conversation with him.

So he left. The next guy comes in, but it actually was Murray's cousin because he saw a guy talking to me, and he thought, what's going on out there? And I was like, no, we just had a Jesus discussion. He was like, oh, good deal. And he said, well, maybe I need to look into the same thing. I said, I think so. Which one of the camera guys named Hunter, he's been with us, I think, like eight years.

And we were talking about doing these dad stories in the blind and talking about how that, you know, if you showed up in the blind, of course, first thing dad would always say, are you a federal game ward? Was the first ask. And then it'd be like, same deal. It'd be questions.

And he said, yep, the first time I hunted with Mr. Phil, had my camera, you know, it was obviously, he was one of our camera guys. And he said, we weren't five minutes in. And he said, well, son, do you know who Jesus is? He said, and then he gave me about a 30, minute gospel presentation. Of course, he said, I am a believer.

I was. I told him, he said, I'm making sure. You know what's funny about that story? I heard him say that in the blind. Yeah. Well, the other cameraman? Wasn't? Well, no.

He came and helped us put out the decoys. Okay. And so he was riding with me in my amphibious vehicle. Yeah. We're out there on the water. And I looked at him. The young kid. Yeah, the young.

Yeah. Willie calls him the intern. And his classic dad. I looked at him and then in that moment, I realized, I don't know who this is. I've never seen this guy before. Right. But we're way into the process. Like, I didn't introduce myself.

I just assume he's a cameraman. I probably know him. But the more I looked at him, I thought, I don't know who this is. He looks like he's about 12. Yeah. So I said, I got a question for you. And he was like, yeah, sure? I mean, he had his camera.

I was like, you can put your camera down. This is not for filming. This is for you. I said, how'd you get here? And he said, well, I drove my truck. I said, no, I don't mean that. How did you position yourself in life to be sitting next to me? Because I just realized, I don't think I know you, do I?

He said, no, sure. And he said, well, I sent an email to Duck Commander asking if there was any job openings, and they accepted it. I was like, well, where are you from? He said, I'm from Birmingham, Alabama. I was like, oh. I said, well, I got a question for you. And he said, what's that?

I said, what is your standing with the Lord God Almighty? Let's cut to the chase, Jack. Yeah. And he said, I would say good. He said, that's why I'm here, because I thought I would like to be mentored by doing something I love to do, which is outdoors and filming by godly men. I said, that's a good answer. Yeah.

I said, I think we're going to get along just fine. Well, what a morning for him. I think his name is Drew. Well, it was funny because I thought he might say something. Yeah. Of course, I said, now, what college did you go to? And he said, oh, I hadn't even graduated high school. He looks very young.

I was like, man. You're in high school? He said, well, technically I'm done. He said, but I just got done. And I was like, oh, man. I was like, well, I knew you look young, but I just assumed. He is young. And Willie was just calling him the interns that, you know, he hadn't even given him a name yet.

I guess he's waiting to see if he hangs around long enough. I asked him his name and actually remembered it. But I did say, that'll become his name. He'll just be the intern. Oh, for Willie, he will be the intern forever. Well, my whole point for telling that story, though, and going to, I mean, your lesson, what it really did is it showed you, this is a movement. Yeah. This is a movement for Jesus, and it's a daily occurrence.

He still goes. You're having conversations about Jesus with people who you're not sure. There's no easy way to get into it. You just ask him a question. That's what Jesus did. He asked three times more questions than he was asked. And you get into things that matter. And it's amazing how people are ready to share where they're at.

I mean, I just told you two different stories. One, asked him a simple question. And what's crazy is when I saw my daughter later who's here, she showed me a picture she knew who that got she knew who he was and when i just described him i was like well somebody needed to talk to him about jesus there and she's like well you never know dad and i was like well that's why you got to ask questions you know you have these kind of conversations but this is more what the church should look like and and granted we do we get together on sundays uh but that's that's in our culture seems to become the the end of all it's

like, oh, I go to church, I need to get back in church. These kind of sayings are not useful or productive and not an accurate depiction of what's going on. I mean, this is happening every day in some capacity. Well, and I will say this as we're out of time as we wrap. Zach, you'll appreciate this. Yesterday's sermon was in that series, but I have in mind, because I'm up again in a couple of Sundays. We're starting a new series just for the month of December about. the king. And so yesterday's sermon for me was a set-up link to where I'm going, because I'm going

to Hebrews 12, the idea, because now there's these protests, no kings, you know, we don't want a king. I'm talking about Trump. I understand the nature of their protest, but I'm going to counter-protest that, oh, we need a king. Yeah. And he's already come. And so that's going to lead us into our Christmas season, I guess you'd call it serious. I like that. The king has come. The king has come. So that's my next one. So I was setting it up yesterday by the idea of this, you know, make sure you get that Matthew 6, because the king has come to earth as it is in heaven. Yes, exactly right. I've already got that written down. So anyway, that's it for, that's it for now. We're out of time. We'll pick it up next time on Unashamed. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out

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