Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 1226 | The Best News We Could Have Gotten About Miss Kay
Episode Date: December 10, 2025Jase and Al offer a big holiday update: Miss Kay is thriving and finally joining the family compound, despite the constant online rumors to the contrary. Zach explores Elon Musk’s prediction that wo...rk will one day become obsolete thanks to artificial intelligence, and the guys contrast the idea with the vocation God gave humans from the beginning. They dive into why meaningful work is part of our created purpose and how the rising “no kings” mindset misses the one King the resurrection has already revealed. In this episode: Genesis 1, verse 2; Genesis 1, verse 28; Genesis 2, verse 15; Genesis 9, verse 7; Genesis 12, verses 2–3; Exodus 1, verses 6–7; Proverbs 1, verse 26; Proverbs 3, verse 26; Proverbs 3, verse 34; John 20, verses 1–31; Acts 2, verses 25–28; Acts 13, verses 32–37; Romans 1, verses 1–4; Romans 8, verses 18–23 “Unashamed” Episode 1226 is sponsored by: Stand firm for values that matter. Join the fight today at https://www.frc.org/unashamed https://myphdweightloss.com — Find out how Al is finally losing weight! Schedule your one-on-one consultation today by visiting the website or calling 864-644-1900. https://on.auraframes.com/UNASHAMED - get exclusive offer of $35 off Carver Mat with Promo Code UNASHAMED Kimchi One from Brightcore – Improve your health, improve your life. Get 25% Off with code: UNASHAMED at https://mybrightcore.com/unashamed or dial (888) 404-9677 for up to 50% OFF and Free Shipping – ONLY when you call! https://tomorrowclubs.org/unashamed — Join this disciple-making movement by supporting Tomorrow Clubs! http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ — Sign up now for free, and join the Unashamed hosts every Friday for Unashamed Academy Powered by Hillsdale College Chapters: 00:00-05:55 Jase is unarmed & Si admits he flopped 05:56-15:15 Jase’s awful, terrible, no-good day 15:16- 23:29 We have one job here on earth 23:30-29:26 Will Ai eliminate the concept of work? 29:27-41:02 No king except THE king 41:03-55:35 Resurrection is our coronation Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-home-with-phil-robertson/id1835224621 Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I am unashamed. What about you?
So welcome back to Unashamed.
Jay says we're in our boxes because I'm in Southern Lair,
Zachson, North Carolina.
We're post- Thanksgiving.
We were off a couple of days.
I know this releases in December,
but we're just after Thanksgiving.
And I'm looking at the table that usually I'm sitting at across me
and I'm seeing nothing, nothing but your coffee.
What does it mean?
I got my coffee, my phone, and I borrowed.
A Bible?
Yeah.
No Bible.
I showed up to a spiritual battle unarmed,
although I do have the Holy Spirit.
But in the spirit of my dad and the resurrection,
I'm fixing to confiscate this Bible right behind my,
I guess I'd be behind my right shoulder.
And so I think that's kind of possible.
Profile.
Well, in your defense, as you're getting your Bible, I'll tell the audience,
and Jason's defense, he is, he's going on a hunting trip, Zach.
Yeah.
Because there's no water in Louisiana, and we just started getting a little weather.
So he's having to go north to find some ducks.
And so he's heading out as soon as we finish the podcast.
So I'm defending you, Jase, that you were so busy putting your hunting stuff together.
Apparently you forgot that we had podcast.
podcast this morning.
So forgot his bag, forgot his Bible, but he's got Phil's Bible in front of him.
Look, you can't make this up.
I walked behind me.
I picked up this Bible, and it was open to John chapter 20.
There you go.
Is that a son?
See, now who did that?
Because I don't remember putting it to John 20, and yet that's exactly where we are today.
Now, having said that, these people that come to me and say, I'm looking for the Lord's
will on a daily basis, and they open.
their Bible, like with their eyes closed.
Yeah.
And they say, and put their finger in there.
Yeah, and they say, you know, this is where I'm going.
There's a thin line between being led by the Spirit of God and being stupid.
So we had, now that we got Jace armed and ready, we'll eventually get to our study here in John 20.
but I did want a couple of things I was going to ask about is since we were last on air,
we had our Robertson Thanksgiving gathering and a couple of things to report, Zach,
since your family is in North Carolina, so you weren't there.
Sometimes you guys are down, but you weren't here this year.
And we were missing a few people for different reasons.
So we weren't quite as large as normal, which is large because a lot of cousins are there.
But one thing was there was a lot made.
about apparently on the other podcast because I don't I don't get into such trivial things of course
but apparently side made a big deal about my dressing I tried dad stuck in dressing last year that it was
too runny and not enough sage and so sigh launched out this year and did the dressing and he brings
it in it looked really good I have to say a presentation I looked at it looked a lot like dads it was in
dad's old pan and so sigh just fixed
him a plate of nothing but his dressing, I noticed. And he ate, he's eating it. And I said, well,
Sa, what about it? I mean, I decided to just put it out there. I hadn't said anything about his
dogging of my presentation last year. He said, too runny, not enough sage. I said, well,
I said, well, that seems to be a common theme, Sy. That's exactly what you said about mine last year.
He said, nope, I missed it. I missed it on this one. So he missed it. I doubt he will
talk about it since he's the one that
failed, but we'll see, did you try?
I actually tried it. I thought it was pretty,
I thought it was pretty good. He's already
told me that the same thing. I think he,
you know how I sighed this age,
he wanted to do it
because those ducks
came from opening day.
Yep. And he
basically claimed most of
them that he shot.
Somebody asked him on camera
how many he had killed. He said, well,
at least four.
You know, I said would say, would say, you can only kill three.
That would be against the law.
And, of course, Cy responded like he usually does with a hey, which could mean anything in that context.
That's right.
Because no, no means yes, and yeah means no.
Exactly.
But anyway, so that, I was going to mention that, just because you're probably not going to hear about it on the other podcast.
I did not gloat.
I did not say anything to Sae.
I said, well, I thought it was pretty good, which I did.
I thought it was pretty good.
So there was that.
And then the other thing was Mom, just to give you an update, a lot of you guys pray for
mom, was there in full regalia.
She was excited, happy.
Mom is doing really well, so well that she's about to move in our little compound, Jay.
So we're super excited about that.
And thank you for the prayer.
She's doing amazing.
She seems to sort of have turned a corner and is doing really good.
So just to let you guys, contrary to internet reports that have her on her deathbed on a regular occasion,
and Jace and Willie hugged into tearful.
Yeah, let's not bring that up again.
She's doing quite well.
So, Jase, we've been talking about your theme song, your walk-up song being, I Won't Back Down.
You know, you see that with the, you did that the last time he's supposed.
at CR. And it reminded me of her good friends at Family Research Council because they also know
that the opponents of God don't back down either. And there's no doubt as we kind of look at and
see this public life now. We see that you have these people, us, FRC standing for biblical
truth, and you kind of got the other side. So that's why Family Research Council is on the front
lines. They fight for faith, family, and freedom. They meet with lawmakers. They shape policy.
they always keep God's truth in the conversation.
And so we want to stand with them.
We can't sit it out.
We've got to act now.
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Well, I'm headed north, going to Kansas, but our duck season has not been bad.
We're not hunting every day.
Obviously, it's duck season, and I'm sitting here.
But we've had a few signs that I think it's going to be.
a good duck season, any workable duck, which has only been a few,
they're just coming right into the decoys, which is exciting.
I took the LSU baseball player, who's now playing professional ball,
and I got to take my son Cole.
And Al, it was one of the, something happened that has never happened to me
on the earth in 50 plus years.
but I was awakened by my son standing over me
and he was saying,
Dad, it's 4.30.
And now I got the baseball player in there,
so this is embarrassing.
So I look at my phone
and my alarm is going off
but there's no sound coming out of it.
So I didn't think anything about it at the time
because I had to get ready in seven minutes,
which I did.
and we were not late,
but I should have known this morning
was going to be challenging
just because that happened.
They had been a storm,
so I thought maybe it had something to do with a storm,
but at some point in the duck hunt,
I checked my phone because my son said,
well, your volume probably wasn't up.
Well, when I looked at it,
my volume was all the way up.
And so I'm like, what happened here?
And my son, who's very smart,
said, well, there's a new dilemma,
with these Apple phones,
you have to turn off your attention surrounding,
which I didn't even know what that was.
And so he said, I watched a video on it.
And believe it or not, now, through the power of AI,
so if you've had this problem, I'm going to correct this.
This is just a PSA.
That sensor, if you have it on,
it's under your face ID and attention.
setting, which I didn't know existed.
If you have that enabled, the AI bug in your phone detects whether the surroundings are conducive
to make sounds.
So now just think about this.
So it detected that maybe they should silence it because everything was quiet.
Well, that's the reason I want it to go off because I'm sleeping.
Yeah.
So you have to disable that, and it's like a phenomenon going across the globe.
People are having that happen to them.
So that's where it started.
And that morning hunt, which was okay.
I mean, I think we shot five ducks, but we had the power company.
No power was on at the layer.
So we did all this in the dark getting ready.
So then the power trucks decided that the problem was somewhere,
on our gravel road through our duck hole,
and they sent two huge trucks,
and they destroyed our road,
because it was wet and muddy,
which eventually led them to getting stuck.
Well, this is all going on while we're trying to hunt.
And I'm like, what can I, what would happen?
So finally, we said, look, we can't hunt while this is going on.
You know, they're big white trucks.
I mean, think 18-wheeler's on a gravel road while I'm trying to hunt.
We get up there.
Well, then my Argo goes dead.
And in between that, I left out the part where, you know,
we were talking about this phone and trying to get it lined out.
Well, at some point I looked around and said, well, I've lost my phone.
I can't find it.
So they tried to call it.
It would go to voicemail.
And so I realized I had put it on the shelf of the blind,
and then we saw some ducks.
And somewhere in me shooting said ducks, the phone,
went into the swamp
and I baptized
and very far phone.
Yeah.
Now look,
believe it or not,
I got on my hands in it.
How does that phone do
being baptized?
That's what I want to know what?
There's a resurrection has occurred.
Now, my case disintegrated.
Swamp water to a,
and look,
this case I had,
they said it will last you
the rest of your life.
It lasted five minutes in swamp water
and it literally deteriorated.
So that just tells what's in the water.
And the phone actually, I just took a hairdryer and turned it off.
It was submerged for 20 minutes, which they said is not possible.
And I took a hairdryer out.
The only thing is if I take a selfie, it's foggy.
But everything else seems to work fine.
No more selfies.
So anyway, we go up there within my Argo, our amphibious vehicle,
while talking to the LPNL personnel,
wondering, I was imagining what my dad would say,
you know, why would two grown men?
You know, but I didn't say all that.
Then it wouldn't crank.
Our vehicle wouldn't crank.
We had to use their tools to get that going about an hour later.
It was just one of those days where nothing went right.
And I don't know, it just made me think,
no matter what you do,
sometimes there's things outside of your control.
So what did the former LSU baseball player think about all that?
Did he still?
He pretty much laughed from the start of that until the end.
So I think, you know, I have a friend for life,
which is what you have to do in those situations.
This is part of what my wife calls Ducksies and the ordeal.
It's just all part of it.
And if you ask me, was it worth it, I would say, yes.
I mean, they're gifts of God.
and it's just good, clean, fun.
And it's a great place to talk about Jesus,
a duck blind setting.
Well, it was worth it for those two Gadwal
that backpedal right in your decoys.
It was.
We had our first big ducks coming in the decoys,
and they liked to took our head off,
and they just looked.
They were hovering over the waters,
which reminds me of Genesis 1,
that creation,
the spirit was hovering over the waters,
and then God said and it burst forth.
And so same kind of concept.
It's a good reminder because then I say cut them.
Cut them.
And new creations are formed, which results in duck gumboes and duck and dressing.
Without enough sage and too runny.
Yeah.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
We're living in a world where you look around and you're like, well, where is God in all this?
But he does his greatest work in the struggle.
So I actually used that day that was difficult as a theme I preached last night at The Hub.
It was quite the raucous crowd.
There was a big contingent from the Celebrate Recovery House from somewhere.
Oh, okay.
And so, yeah, it was vocal and boisterous.
And I took.
That could always bring some excitement to the audience, no doubt about it.
They're a shoutback crew.
That's what you call them.
They shout back when you're preaching.
They'll shout at you.
That's what you're wrong.
So the theme was kind of the resurrection.
That's where we're at in John 20,
but I was talking about Jesus being king.
And just kind of this reality, this present reality,
that we're reigning on the earth.
The kingdom has taken a form on earth as it is in heaven
through spirit-filled people,
which it was real quiet during that part.
And I just think people are not getting that from the Bible.
Which is why we're here.
Yeah, Jason, I was going to tell you, I agree, man.
I think it's, I think we've missed that as a church.
And this idea that the role or the vocation of humanity as ordained by God,
it is to exercise dominion over the earth.
And I was just with Fred this morning taking him to school.
And I'm trying to give him like little nuggets every morning, you know.
Like just they got 15 minutes in the car with him.
I want to take, I want to make the most of it.
And I was asking him about, you know, what were you created for?
And he was like, I don't know.
He's 14.
So I'm like, no, but you know what you?
What were you created for?
And he, of course, gave the church, answered, glorify God.
And I said, well, how do you do that?
I think he said, follow God.
He said, but follow, what does that mean?
You know, following him.
But what does it mean to follow him?
He's like, uh, to follow?
I was like, no, you're answering.
You're repeating what does it mean to actually follow God?
And he's like, I guess do what he does.
I said, well, what does he do?
And we went through this whole exercise and essentially we got to the end of it.
He's like, God makes stuff.
He creates things.
He exercises dominion.
And I don't know if he used that language, dominion.
But my point to him was that's what you're called to do.
That's your vocation.
And when you sin, you're actually abdicating or you're not exercising dominion.
And I actually think this is one of the most.
misunderstood things about the story of the Bible is we don't really know what that means.
But I pulled up, it's funny you mentioned that, because I pulled up a list of probably 15
verses in the book of Genesis that essentially say the same exact thing throughout.
So if you read the book of Genesis and you like skim through it, that's essentially what
you're going to get to.
The first one is in Genesis, I won't read them all, but I just want to skim through them
quick. The first one was in Genesis
128 when it said, God bless them
and he said to them, be fruitful
and multiply and fill
the earth and subdue it and have
dominion over the fish
of the sea, over the birds of the heavens,
and over every living creature that moves
along the earth. So the idea was be fruitful,
multiply, exercise dominion, subdue the earth.
Like take the garden, expand it across the entire globe.
Then the world gets wicked
and the whole scene
happens where God floods the earth in the days of Noah,
and then when those eight people were coming off that arc,
guess what God told them in Genesis 9-1?
And God blessed Noah and his sons,
and he said to them,
be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth.
So it's the same repetition.
Then in Genesis 9-7,
and you be fruitful and multiply
and increase greatly on the earth
and multiply in it.
Then you get Genesis 12 after the Tower of Abel
when he calls Abram out and calls Isher.
And this is what he says to Abram.
I will make you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great so that you will be a blessing.
I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you, dishonors you. I will curse.
And in you, all the families of the earth shall be blessed.
So you keep seeing these families expanding across the entire globe.
Genesis 17, that I make my covenant between you and me and you and may multiply you greatly.
Genesis 17, 6, I will make you exceedingly fruitful, be fruitful and multiply.
I will make you into many nations.
It just goes on throughout the entire book of Genesis.
It's the same repetition of be fruitful and multiply and subdue the earth and have dominion
ever.
It's some version of that.
And what's interesting about that is we just finished our study on the book of Exodus.
And when I went back and read the very first eight verses of the book of Exodus, you know
how they end and the reason why Pharaoh got mad?
and the reason why he was persecuting the Hebrews is it says here in verse 7 that the,
he said, come we must do.
Hold on, me back up here.
In verse 6, he says, now Joseph and all of his brothers and all that generation died,
because remember that's how the book of Genesis ends with the story of Joseph,
but the Israelites were exceedingly fruitful and they multiplied greatly
and increased in numbers and became so numerous.
that the land was filled with them.
So you see that story, it goes right into the Exodus story.
And somehow, I don't know how it happened,
but with thousands of years of biblical history,
the church has forgotten that this was what the whole thing was about in the first place.
I don't know.
It's wild.
Yeah, and it also shows you, Zach, to the point I was making a minute ago,
that the enemies of God were also seemed to be lined up against this idea.
of multiplication, subduing the earth, doing what God created us to do as well, which is kind of
interesting. There's always been that antithesis that seems to go against exactly what God has called
us to do. And maybe that's one of the reasons why it's easy for the church to get blinded to
that and to miss it and miss the idea. Because everything you just mentioned all through the book of
Genesis, all those patriarchs was building the people of God that one day would become a nation,
that one day would produce the Messiah,
the whole idea was that was to get the king here.
That was the whole process was all of this idea.
It was to get him here.
And this is so key for where we're at
in our cultural moment because I was just reading,
I actually preached a sermon on this a couple weeks ago,
and I'll try to put it in the show notes
so I can find the link.
But Elon Musk, just in the last several weeks,
he said and has predicted that with the advancements of AI,
that within the next 10 to 20 years that work will be obsolete.
Like we will not have to work anymore.
Like he said something to the effect of,
sure, you can work if you want,
but it's going to be like growing tomatoes in the backyard.
You can if you want to, but you don't have to
because you can go down at the store and just pick them up.
And when I was reading that and trying to imagine a world where there is no work,
I'm like, that is not the picture of the kingdom.
So whatever vision of utopia that's being propagated by Elon Musk and the like,
that's not the vision of the kingdom of God.
Like work is actually a blessing.
And I think that what's going to be recovered, and I think you're going to see this, by the way.
I'm not worried about that world because I think the kingdom of God,
I do believe it is a kingdom that can't be shaken nor destroyed.
But it is going to be interesting that I think there's going to be two worlds that they're going to become very, very, very.
clear. One world will be completely automated and then one world will be, I think, the people of God.
We're not going to abdicate our dominion and hand it over to technology and things like that.
But that's like that was interesting, that that's where we're at, this idea of dominion, work, cultivation.
Now we're being told, no, you don't have to do any of that. We'll take care of that for you. Technology will.
Well, what's amazing is, so this morning when I woke up, I had a little man, so it's getting up early.
but one of the guys I'm helping to disciple via the technological world,
he sent me a text deep into the night.
He was like, sorry so late, but he said,
I was reading Psalm 24, and I'm kind of confused on the true meaning of verses 7 through 10.
I looked it up, but it just threw a bunch of interpretations at me,
and I just don't want to misinterpret the scriptures.
So I read Psalm 24 and Zach, it was exactly what you just addressed, which I find fascinating.
And you got to remember, this guy is new in the faith.
But I want to read this because it's kind of what I preached last night about why is Jesus king.
It says in verse 1, the earth is the Lord's and everything in it, the world and all who live in it.
for he founded it upon the seas and established it upon the waters.
So we're going back to Genesis 1 and 2, which, and humans were created in the image of God.
And Zach's right.
Twice it says, let them rule over and let Adam work in the garden.
That was, he was to rule and work.
Then verse 3 says, who may ascend the hill of the Lord?
Who may stand in his holy place?
he who has clean hands and a pure heart who does not lift up his soul to an idol or swear by what is false,
he will receive blessing from the Lord and vindication from God, His Savior, such as the generation of those who seek him.
So he gets to verse 7. So these are the next three are the question. And watch what it says.
Lift up your heads, O you gates, be lifted up you ancient doors, that the king of the next three,
of glory may come in.
Who is this king of glory?
The Lord strong and mighty.
The Lord mighty in battle.
Lift up your heads.
O you gates.
Lift them up, you ancient doors.
That the king of glory may come in.
Who is he this king of glory?
The Lord Almighty.
He is the king of glory.
And you say, well, why would a young Christian have trouble understanding
what this is talking about?
out because I think it's right where we left off in the story in John.
He doesn't look like a king in the way he's operated up until now.
He has no money.
He has no power.
He has no house.
He has a bunch of riff-raft people.
He was born on the wrong side of the town, which he has no pedigree.
Everybody is, you know, threatened by him, despite the fact that.
he seems to just be concerned about the lowly and helping people, but he's not pushing back.
Because when you think kingdom and king, you're in ruling, you're thinking power, battle,
swords, tanks, and, you know, swords in their day, tanks in our days, dropping bombs,
and whoever has the biggest dick is the one dictating policy.
And so I think you see that his glory was hidden on the cross because here he is being made fun of.
They've dressed him up like a king with a crown of thorns and they're asking him questions.
But he just doesn't seem to be pushing back whatsoever.
So I think that's when you combine that with what's going on in the world, what we see.
people tend to think there's no king.
It's a misunderstanding of dominion for sure.
I think the world would perceive dominion, as you said, as domination, as like coming and exercising power over,
which is kind of interesting the story of Jesus, right?
Because on the Mount of Transfiguration, when Jesus is talking with Moses and Elijah about his
departure. He's talking about the fact that I'm going to depart this earth and leave. And Peter is
looking at the Transfigured Christ in his glory. And you got to think like Peter, you see this
without Peter through with Peter throughout the whole like gospel, right? That whole scene where
Jesus says, who do you say I am? Who do people say I am? Some people say you're John the Baptist.
Some people say you're Elijah. Some say it's one of the other prophets. Peter, who do you say I am?
And Peter rightly says you're the Christ. And Jesus says on this.
I'm going to build my church and the gates of hell won't prevail against it.
But then he predicts his death and Peter's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That ain't how this is going to play out.
Like, now you're not going to die.
And Christ has to rebuke Peter and says, get behind me Satan.
Then on the transfiguration, Peter, again, he misses it.
The accountant Luke says he doesn't understand what's happening.
And so he's like, let me build tents for you guys so that I can house you.
And the father shows up in a cloud of smoke and says, no,
That's not how this works.
Listen to him.
This is the Christ, my son.
Listen to him, do what he says.
Then again, Jesus predicts his death.
The son of man must be handed over to the hands of men.
And they just, they don't get that the way to dominion is actually through the cross.
It's actually through sacrifice.
That's actually the way.
And I think that's why we probably don't teach a lot on dominion theology is because it's hard for us to
wrap our mind around the fact that the way that Jesus exercised dominion was on a road to a cross
where he suffered at the hands of men and was mocked and scorned and ultimately was murdered.
Now, he did sit in a grave for three days, but God raised him up on the third day, and then he
ascended, he departed this earth, just like he was talking to Moses and Elijah about on the
Mount of Transfiguration. But I think it's that cross is the thing that people, you know, you kind of want to
get away from that. It's kind of like we're saying, give me a dominion without the cross.
But even the life of Jesus when you think about it, what people fear is what they truly
believe deep down. Because when Jesus came to the earth, you couldn't find any more humble
circumstances by which it happened. It certainly didn't seem like a king being born in a manger
because he couldn't find a room. His parents couldn't find a room from these two people that were not
even in their hometown. And yet what was going on politically? King Herod was going to kill all the
babies and did kill many, who were the age of Jesus, because he was fearful that a king was being
born that would threaten his kingdom, which was a mockery anyway. And then you get to the end of
Jesus' life 33 years later. And here's Pilate, who is the ruling authority, the governor
from Rome over this area. And we know, because we just studied it in 18.
and 19, he was fearful because Jesus was called the Son of God. So somewhere deep down,
Pilate was thinking, what if he is the Son of God? What if he really is deity? So even in the
circumstances and setting of Jesus is coming to Earth, the life he lived, what he did when he was
here, the three years of his ministry, and then even his suffering and death, there was fear
by authorities on what if he really is who he says he is. And of course, we believe that he was.
which is exactly why we're still preaching all these years later.
I find it fascinating, Jays, because I'm going to be preaching about Jesus King this Sunday as well.
We're kind of on the same, we're tracking on the same wavelength.
I find it fascinating that in our culture right now, as we sit here having this discussion,
I looked it up yesterday because I've been hearing this no kings.
And I realize it's a anti-Trump, you know, but I went to their, I looked a couple of their websites up yesterday.
They're very prolific.
No, no thrones, no crowns, no kings.
And, you know, the whole thing is aimed at our president, Trump, who's not a king.
He's a president.
He was elected.
But anyway, so they're saying this.
And I thought, it didn't interesting that we have millions of people saying the last thing we need is a king.
And we're on this podcast saying it's the first thing we need is the king.
That's where I started my sermon last.
I told that story.
If I had my notes, I could remember it.
Maybe I can't on top my head, but I was like there was a resurgence against royalty.
I mean, obviously, that's how this country was formed in opposition of being under some king or being under British rule.
I mean, I've told the story before.
The first coin minted in America, which I was fortunate to find this treasure in Maryland was a 1651.
Massachusetts pine shilling, and the reason it had 1651 on it
was because that was the only year that Britain didn't have a king.
So a bunch of Americans in the years of 1670 to 1684 said,
we want our own money.
We want to be free.
So they minted this coin illegally, but put 1651 on it.
So if they got caught with it,
they'd say, oh, we did this the year.
No king.
Yeah, you had no king.
I mean, it's an incredible story.
But I told the story in 1919, the mayor of Milwaukee, I think his name was like Don Hohn or something like that.
You can look it up.
But the king of Belgium wanted to visit for some odd reason.
And he wrote, this mayor wrote, and it was a political letter.
but he basically came up with a famous line that said,
no, you're not welcome because to hell with royalty.
That was his line.
He said, I'm for the working man.
I'm for the simple man.
And, you know, that resonates with people because we want to be free from this kind of rule.
So it makes you think of, well, what is the problem with having a king on earth?
Well, it's a short list.
they're all flawed, they're all unpredictable, they all die.
Yeah.
And then it's unpredictable on who's going to carry the line.
All you got to do is get one bad king and they'll wipe you out, which has happened over and over.
That short list you mentioned is in the Bible by God himself on why you don't want a king on earth.
He told Israel that you don't want a king.
What's funny is these protesters, though, what they're actually saying is we don't, we, no king but our king.
I mean, if their guys in, then they're excited about it. But I actually think the premise there, we even, us conservatives, we do need to take note of that.
Like, I mean, I'm not putting all my eggs in the Trump basket. And that offends you. I'm sorry, but I'm not. I'm not putting my, I'm saying no king, but the king.
And I think that that is important because when you go back and look at the founding of this country,
I mean, I don't know how this is controversial today.
And I know people get mad when I say this on the podcast, but it's true.
Like conservative humanism is still humanism.
The king is king Jesus.
And so if you look at the foundation of the country, like you look at the French Revolution.
That was a, they rightly revolted against the monarchy during the French Revolution.
I mean, it was absolute insanity of how oppressive the regime was.
King Louis and Maria Antoinette.
And so the people do accurately, and I think justifiably revolt on some level.
But then when you read about the revolt, it gets pretty sick what they actually did.
And so they didn't have it.
Then it got total anarchy, complete and utter chaos, because they kicked out the king.
And they said, we don't want the royalty.
It became a populist upro.
rising is what it was. They gained power, and it was led by a guy named Maximilian Ropes-Bierre,
and then they became so paranoid that they just, they get out the guillotine, and I mean,
they're chopping off everybody's head. Anybody that was a threat to the revolution,
they would chop their head off, and then the guy who started the revolution, guess what happened
to him? He ends up getting his head chopped off. And then that paid the way for another king,
Napoleon Bonaparte, who was a brutal dictator. And so all of these systems,
Like you think they're going to work politically, and so you put your eggs in the basket of the politician.
The problem is if the politician, if the actual system of government, if it isn't predicated on a, on the king, a non-arbitrary anchor to reality, if it's dependent on our will, our collective wills or whatever, some arbitrary thing, it's going to end in tyranny.
That's why these people that are pushing back against quote-unquote Christian nationalism.
I'm like, man, I want a country that's predicated on the fact that all men are created equal,
that all men are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.
I mean, that's the idea that actually led to the abolishment of slavery.
That's the idea that led to the end of the civil rights movement.
That's the idea that led to the birth of this country.
That is a primarily Christian idea.
And so if you leave, that's what the thing is based on.
So when we say no king but the king, what we're saying is we want to come under that truth.
of what God says and not what men's seven.
But my problem is that they're leaving off the king.
Well, they're leaving off the king.
Here's why.
So I think the most famous verse quoted in the Bible is John 316,
for God to love the world that he sent his only begotten son
that whoever believes in him shall not perish,
but have eternal life.
But I think most people are just focused on the cross,
but obviously Paul, when he has his little riff in 1st, Corinthians 15, he's like, if Christ hasn't been raised, you're still in your sins.
Your faith is futile.
It doesn't end at the cross.
When he says it's finished, that's why we link that to the first creation when God said it's finished, it's done, and then he rested.
So now, let's see what I've created reflect my image.
Well, the same thing happened when Jesus was raised from the dead.
It's called the new creation on this planet.
It's where heaven and earth meet.
It's where humans and God meet in Jesus.
So I want to illustrate that.
And I found this quite comical because I'm using Phil's Bible.
And he's literally speaking from the grave here because he has no.
notes on Psalms 2.
And what's fascinating is that Psalm is quoted numerous times in the New Testament.
But I want to read something that Phil discovered that I found fascinating.
And I went here because I knew it talked about King, so you'll see why I did this.
But in Psalm 2 it says, why do the nations rage and the people's plot in vain?
Which is a good question.
Where's God on all this?
why is everybody against each other?
The kings of the earth take their stand
and the rulers gather together against the Lord
and against his anointed one.
So that's why David said a long time ago,
the nation's rage and the people's plot in vain
because the kings of the earth take their stand
and the rulers gather together against the Lord
and against his anointed one.
Let us break their chains
they say and throw off their fetters.
The one enthrone in heaven laughs.
And my dad put out in the margin.
God laughs.
It's a good question.
Does God laugh?
Look, and he put five verses where it also says that he laughed.
Psalm 24, Psalm 37, 13, Psalm 59, 8, Proverbs, maybe 1, 26, or 3,
26, and then Proverbs 334.
But on that 37-13, he said, look at this.
So I went over there and looked, and it said,
The wicked plot against the righteous and gnash their teeth at them,
but the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he knows their day is coming.
So, which I've heard my dad say that many times.
So let me continue.
The one in throne in heaven laughs.
The Lord scoffs at them.
Then he rebukes them in his hands.
anger and terrifies them in his wrath saying, I have installed my king on Zion, my holy hill.
I will proclaim the decree of the Lord. Now, here's where it gets interesting. He says, you are my
begotten son. Now, some translations leave out begotten because I think they thought, well, he must be
mistaken, but it's in there. But look, it's in the context of the resurrection, and I'm going to prove that to
you. It says, today I have become your father. Ask of me and I will make the nations your inheritance,
the ends of the earth, your possession. You will rule them with an iron scepter. You will dash them to pieces
like pottery. Therefore, you kings, be wise, be worn, you rulers of the earth, serve the Lord with fear
and rejoice. Kiss the sun lest he be angry and you be destroyed in your way. For his wrath can flare up
in a moment. So did you know that that Psalm is quoted in Acts 13? And I want to read to you where
it's quoted, and you tell me what the context of the begotten son is here. This is 1332.
We tell you the good news what God promised our fathers. He has fulfilled for us their children by
raising up Jesus. As it is written in the second Psalm, you are my begotten.
son, today I have become your father.
The fact that God raised him from the dead never to see decay is stated in these words.
I will give you the holy and sure blessings promised to David.
So it is stated elsewhere, which is, I believe, where's that song?
You will not let your holy ones decay.
Oh, that's Psalm 16.
In Acts 2, that's quoted as well.
That's right.
And you need to read Psalm 16 right now if you're listening and then come back, push-paws.
But then also, look, you know where else it's quoted?
It's in Hebrews 1.
Now God speaks.
And when you read Hebrews 1, it immediately goes to where he gets his authority as being the exalted.
king at the right hand of God. He's the exact, you know, verse three, the exact representation of his being.
After he provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the majesty in heaven
and became much more superior. So then he gets to verse five. There it is. There's the same quote.
You are my begotten son. Today I have become your father, and I will be his father.
and he will be my son.
Let all the angels worship him.
And so what I find fascinating is when you throw in Romans 1,
speaking of David, who is now writing this in the Psalms and Jesus fulfilling it,
it says the same thing in the first four verses when he says,
Jesus called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel,
the gospel he promised beforehand through His Holy Scriptures,
which is what we're reading.
regarding his son as to his human nature was a descendant of David,
and who through the spirit of holiness was declared with power to be the son of God.
That's power.
That always has that king connotation to it.
Son of God, by his resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ, our Lord.
So the last one I'll read after all this about the Kings is, and this is what I did last night in my sermon, so I just can't help it.
I read what I did in the sermon is I read 2 Corinthians 5 because they're doing a series on ministry.
And I made the point that ministry for Jesus is not something we come up with.
It's who we are.
And I read 2nd Corinthians 5 where it says, we are therefore Christ ambassadors as though God were making his appeal through us.
and that ambassador has that royal connotation.
We're representing heaven and the authority Jesus has at the right hand of God.
And so I went through that whole chapter.
But then I read Revelation 1, which I want to read this,
I think it makes everything we've talked about come together.
John, to the seven churches, he says, grace and peace,
this is verse 4, to you from who is and who was and who is.
to come from the sevenfold spirit. And I made a point about this being a present reality. Yes,
we will be resurrected bodily in the end and live forever. But Jesus is. He was, he is,
and he is to come, before his throne. And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness,
the first born from the dead. There's that begotten. He's the first born for,
from the dead, Psalm 2, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.
And this is where I really preached on,
because these three things about who we are
connects us with that royalty, being ambassadors.
To him who loves us, there's the cross, there's the life,
and has freed us, there's the death on a cross and the resurrection
from our sins by his blessing,
blood and has made us. There's the new creation, 2 Corinthians 5 again, to be a kingdom and priests
to serve his God and Father. To him be glory and power forever and ever, amen. And then he quotes
Daniel 7. Look, he's coming with the clouds. And then when you go,
go to verse 13, he references the son of man. I saw one like the son of man. And why was he coming
on the clouds and one like the son of man? And then he quotes Jesus himself in 17 and 18. He says,
I am the first, the last, I'm the living one. I was dead. And behold, I am alive forever and ever.
I hold the keys of death and Hades. And that's why he's the king of kings. And it's actually,
it's the perfect, we're almost out of time, but it's the perfect setup for exactly where we are
in John 20 with the resurrection because, you know, you coronate a king. There's a coronation.
There's a big celebration of how, you know, this person became the king. It's usually on earthly
kings. It's the passing of the torch because the, you know, former king or queen has died and now
the royal line has now continued on. What you're saying, what you're saying, what you're
you just read in those string of text that were from Psalms and the New Testament and eventually
in Revelation, shows us that the coronation of our king was the resurrection.
Yes.
No doubt about it.
Well, and it's connected to this idea of dominion because when you get to, you just read
that verse about Jesus' body was not left to decay, then you read Romans 8, and it talks
about the creation, which we're supposed to exercise dominion over.
and what does it say about the creation,
that the creation groans with eager expectation
waiting for the sons of God to be revealed
because the creation itself is going to be liberated
from its bondage to decay as we actually exercise dominion with it in it.
So then what you're going to see at the resurrection of our bodies
is we're actually going to fulfill what Christ said to do in Genesis 128.
We're going to do that.
And so the reason why this begins at the resurrection is because Jesus is the first,
part of the creation to be, in terms of a human, his created body is liberated from its bondage
to decay, which is a foretaste of our bodies and the entire creation itself. So that's kind of an
interesting thought to think about that the ground that was cursed is now like, please, can we
get to the point where you humans are liberated so that you can cultivate the earth and turn this
into the garden? I love it. All right. We're out of time. But I, Jay, I like the
That loves us,
Freed Us,
made us.
That'll preach right there.
Those points are just right there.
I didn't make that up.
That's what it says.
Yeah,
that's gold.
That may surface again in my sermon this week.
We'll see.
So we'll hit into John 20 next time on Unashamed.
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