Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 124 | Phil Robertson Blasts Ban on Church Singing, Masked Funerals, and Jase Defends Toilet Humor

Episode Date: August 5, 2020

Phil, Jase, and Al have plenty to say about the ungodly attack on worship singing in California, and Phil knows exactly what he would do if he was banned from singing during church services. Jase describes the surreal experience of a pandemic funeral. Al shares something special he does at funerals to give people a chance to heal old wounds. And Jase has Al in stitches as he moves the conversation from John 9 to the purpose of saliva to breaking wind and how we know God has a sense of humor. Get Jesus Politics by Phil Robertson, available now: https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Politics-Back-Soul-America/dp/1400210062/ - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So, Dan, you came in today. Yeah, we're actually... I'm already laughing. 20 minutes late. I put on a fresh shirt. Well, let me tell the story.

You were cut it. You were five minutes. We get here, Phil's always here. He's always the first one here. And we get here today, we come in, sit out, no Phil. So Phil comes in a few minutes late, and he literally looked like he had been rolling around in a mud pit with an alligator. His hair is still, you can't tell probably on screen.

It's some sticking in there. He was just mud and wet with sweat. So you just kind of press it down and it'll dry out. It'll crumble in about an hour. It'll just start crumbling. I had the same problem. I had something yesterday. I usually wait to Saturday to take a shower, but today, I think I might have to take one on Monday.

So we said, look. It does like, we've got to get this thing going. No, no, no, no, go clean yourself. So you're actually, the way, you know, you look 10 minutes ago was, as Granny used to say, repulsive and obnoxious. And despisable. So tell the artist what you were doing. What caused the mud? Why were you covered in dark?

We're not farmers, but. But yesterday, Stone started 6 o'clock in the morning. I went up and met with the brothers up there in a church building. So it's the second time I've been to town five times since April. And now you're back to going once a week. I go up there. I go up there once a week. I didn't know y'all were met.

I thought, yeah, they met. They started meeting the same. I was in Austin, but we were going to meet, but they canceled service. But a lot of people might not understand from Air Advantage, but okay, I sit down. I sit at a table. I don't talk down to them. I talk with them. So I got my Bible out, and I had a lesson prepared.

and some people came up and said there's a couple in the audience and they want them want you to baptize them I said really and then five minutes later somebody else came up and said there's another couple over there see that that younger man yeah and his wife they're here they want you he wants you to baptize him I said well great I look back at my lesson there and they said somebody else walked up and said there's somebody here from they were from uh we got a guy here from New Jersey Jersey came all the way down here and wants you to baptize them. I said, well, I tell you what, since we have three on tap here and they want to be born again today, I said, we'll just, I'll just give you some scriptures that you could look into. So I went through the gospel with

them, you know, who are you counting time by? It's 2,020 years from something. So you walk it back, you get to Jesus coming in flesh, dying on a cross, being buried. So I just went through the gospel. Faith in that message. Faith comes from hearing the message. The message is heard through the word of cry. So I said, that is the message. Secondly, I said, if you believe it, a lot of people say, well, nothing you can do about it.

Well, you have to believe it. Without faith, it's impossible to please God. You must believe you exist, and he rewards you for all the ones that seek him. So we talked about faith. We talked about repentance. I don't know what y'all been up to. Where are you from? I'm just talking to them now in the audience.

He said, New Jersey. I said, New Jersey. I said, one of the few people I've met on the earth from New Jersey. I said, I'm glad you're here. I said, where are you folks from? Indiana. I said, Indiana. Yep.

Great state. And I said, then you, my friend, he said, I'm from Oberlin, Louisiana. I said, Oberlin. Never heard of it. It's down there around Kinder. It's heading toward New Orleans, Oval, and he had a little French vintage wife. I could tell that. Father accent.

I ask her about her cooking. Yep, and just the way she looked, you know, she's like a little Cajun lady. Which I went through the gospel with him, and now we get to a man is fixing to be born again, and he believes that Jesus was raised from the dead. three days after he died. So here comes the pandemic and the rules and regulations regarding social distancing because I can either rope him and just throw him down in the water with a rope, making sure I'm six eight feet away,

or I can just put my hand on the guy, walk up to him and tell him, Jesus has removed your sin and will raise you from the dead. The only problem is I'm not going to give you coronavirus because I haven't been to town but five times. And then I've been shielded at that. I said, but if he can raise dead men from the ground, let's trust him on the pandemic. How about that? You may give you some motivation. You know what the people did, by the way, and this is a congregation, 60% black, 40% white.

I only bring that up because people say I'm a racist. And I'm like, well, you could have fooled me. So when I told the congregation, what y'all think, he can raise dead men from the ground or we got to get six foot away, how are we going to get this guy and baptize him? I haven't found that text in scripture unless there's a pandemic. You have to shut it down. You baptize them unless there's a pandemic and then call it off. I'm like, born again, he turned alive. Let me give you some.

I said, let's just trust in God and go with it and we'll see. And if I get the coronavirus and die, I'm like, I went out. out in a blaze of glory is all I can tell you. Let me give you some motivation because I went and saw Jim as well the past. Jayce, you think I need some motivation. Oh, but you're going to like this story. All right, I like that better. You're going to dislike the story so much.

Oh, I'm motivated when I got up as morning six o'clock, planning the private hole so we can kill some ducks over and you're up there watching the stock market. Missed your subdivision. Free money. Jase, I'm your dad. I'm 74 years. just hit 50, but your whiskers are getting gray. So we basically, I don't want to come on too strong, but you've caught up with me,

you and I out here. Y'all are like, you're not a young box anymore, Jay's. Well, now, I know you don't like mirrors in particular, but I mean, I just think we stood side to side. There's still a chasm. But the motivation. I'm trying to get, see why Phil's starting up this morning. He is turned up.

You know, my view of it out, at least we're still here. Because every time I say, you know, I'm getting too old with this stuff. I'll be at 6 o'clock in the morning running around out there mud hole. But then it occurs to me, I said, then I keep getting older. Yep. And I keep putting up with this stuff. You see what I'm saying? Yeah.

So. Well, I thought you were having people work for you. But now after I saw you, nope, you're doing some work. It's hard to get that muddy without doing something. Yeah, you're doing, you were still. Yeah. Because it wasn't a splash. ladder. This was a, you've been rolling around. Remember, we're planning silt. Silt for all of these

ladies and gentlemen are not familiar with that, because they live in some subdivision, cooped up, you know, four stories up the building there. So silt is what backwater leaves. Backwater, when it finally falls out after a 20 foot backwater for four months, high water. As soon as it comes off that ground, if you're the first person who plants some, If you can plant your crop before the undesirable start coming up out there, you'll have a crop. But you've got to catch it as soon as the water comes off of it within three days, you have to be there. And where it's not so muddy, you bog down all your equipment. And you say, what kind of piece of equipment would you drive out in the middle of the woods like that?

Because it is muddy like you wouldn't believe, soft mud. I've got Yamaha, the Yamaha, people, they make great machines. I ask them, did they make ones with these tracks, like little, bulldozer tracks on each wheel. They said, we can do it. So they fixed me one up. And they're great people, by the way. It's a side-by-side of the tracks.

And he's got about four or five dealerships. I'm giving them a plug here. But the bottom line is, they got that machine and you can ride on top of that silt, that mud, and your rig won't sink. Oh, okay. Well, Dan is spraying it by hand because our little cedar we had on the back of the wheeler. I ran over a bunch of little old trees going in there, thick in there. So we tow it up.

So I got out there and was walking. Dan was walking. Dan, the eunuch, he's walking and planting the whole thing with just a bag on his neck. By hand. So he's got him a little twirler there. I'm going back and covering it up with him tracks because it's soft. So to keep the birds from getting it, I'm just going round and around after he plants it. I went in there behind him.

He'd plant some wood going there behind him. He'll plant some more. He'd come over there, fill his bag back up. So we're just stomping around in the mud. I'm going just right across there, covering up the seed. So how are you keeping him motivated? How are you keeping him motivated? Because he sounds like that sounds like that.

Talking about Dan? Yeah, that sounds like kind of. When he would stop and his strength was leaving him, but he's missed a muscle man. I know. He's a little. I don't get skinny ones or real heavy ones. No, because they'd die. But he got out to us and said, Dan, just remember, it's good for the upper

abs, man. Of course, he's just stomping through mud. He's a ninja. And he would be looking up in the air and look, he would be doing his shoulders like that. He's looking up into the sky. And he would be just standing there. And I said, Dan, you're all right? He said, I'm thirsty. I get you some water. I said, Dan, in the days of Moses, I said, they didn't have tractors. They didn't have cedars. You know how they planted something? I said, you've got a little thing that's twirling that's spreading it. I said, they reached over in that bag and slung it with their hands. I said, Dan, you're way back in time now, son.

I said, this is the only way they can do it. So you took it back to thousands of years ago, said, look at the advances we've made. I said, they hired people to do what you're doing right now. I said, so suck it up, son. Never tell you. I hear that kind of story. I think about, remember our friend, W.E. We're playing softball.

We're playing softball, and he was, like you mentioned, he way too heavy to be, because he was at the later stages of his career. He had skinny legs, but a big belly. Well, he's huge, but he was very competitive. And he was a good ball player. But the older he got, he just, and so he hits one to the wall,

takes a bad bounce. So he's running around the bases, the guy's fumbling with the ball. He's trying to get an end. He's huffing and puffing. Oh, he's doing more than that. And we're all sitting in a dugout, you know, and he's rounding third because the idea of him hitting an inside.

He's coming in. Inside the park home run is like. And he sees, this is his crowning moment. Take the worst out of shape person you know. And it's like it can never happen. Well, it's like the guy that's your favorite comedian, have a salad. Bob Hughes.

Bob Hughes. Yeah. So look. He weighed in at 12. $1,200. Look, I remember this like it was yesterday. When he rounded third, all of a sudden, everything slowed down in my mind. And he tried to stop because he realized he couldn't make it.

And it's like in slow motion, I could see all of his body going one way. And he said, no, I'm going to go back to third. But there was so much weight there that during that transition, one of his knees, it just popped. And you could see it, and it was loud. Oh, yeah. It just went pot. It was very agonizing to watch. And so he crawled back to third.

And here's, it wasn't funny at the time. He's writhing in pain. It wasn't funny, but it has become funny through the years. We can laugh about it. The whole team comes out there, and he turns over and he says, water. Water. I'm like, you just broke your leg and you're worried about these three bases that he just ran.

He's like, water. So for years, every time I've seen him, I'm like, water. I think he recently, a couple of three years ago, he's about y'all's age. He just got that knee replaced. Yep. Yeah. Which he got was, what, 20 years ago? That was a long time ago.

That was 20 years. We were still young enough to think we could do things like that. Red, if you're listening, you got up to now the last time I saw you. He's not listening. He's not listening. Well, he was up to about 400. We probably had him for the first three minutes. I called him about, well, let's take a quick break.

So I called Bill W.E's. He's a bunch of different names. Red shoes. So I called him because I heard he lost some weight. And I was about to start a diet. I said, so I didn't make him feel good. I said, I heard you lost some weight. weight. So I called him to see what you were doing. He said, well, he's gotten in bad shape

if you're calling W.E. for weight advice. I said, yeah, I have. That's why I'm calling. It's hard to describe W.E. The people who don't know him. He's like he's, he's, he is obnoxious, repulsive. And what other word would you say? Well, Gras. Granny said despisable. But he's a, once you get to know him, he's kind of a lovable, angry person. He was my best man. man in my wedding. But he, so I said,

I heard you, how much weight of you lost, Bill? He said, 80 pounds. I was like, man,

congratulations. That's awesome. He said, well, I still got another Honda to go. Yeah. And I was like,

oh, sorry, Bill. I didn't realize you weren't quite at the halfway point with the two Honda. So I hope he's doing.

So look, all the God was going to tell you about. You could not have a man. I mean, the guy that was, the Dan that was walking around hand planting that in that muck,

or you would have had to have somebody under 40. Dan's about 34 or 35. He's in his prime. Solid muscle. He's a ninja. He climbs. You wouldn't take a man.

Red would, no, you'd call the ambulance. You'd haul them all. That's right. You'd have to get a trachal down there because he'd still be sinking. I've experienced that,

you know. So I was going to give you the motivation. Here's your motivation. Because I went to Austin because we had to go to Missy's grandma's funeral and we didn't have to go. We wanted to go.

wanted to go. And, uh, which, how was the COVID funeral? That's, you know what? It was depressing. We have so many laws now. And I get it. We're trying to stop it. But, but it's like the stress and anxiety that we're causing because number one,

it was 100 degrees. Well, you know, you can't go indoors. So we're outside because you, because of the corona. You got to be outside. Everybody's got a mask on. And it's 100, 100 degrees. No, I'm not embellishing. It was 100 degrees.

And so we're outside. And then you got a mask on. So now it's 109 right here. In your face, yeah. Yeah. And then you got to be social distancing. Well, you know, everybody's emotional and upset, so we got to stay away from each other. It's hard to recognize family members you haven't seen in a while when they have a mask on.

So I'm like, I'm leaning over to Missy. I'm like, because I knew it was a family only. You don't know who to hug or who? And I'm like, who is this? And she's like, I really don't know with the matter. It was just hard to know. And it was just so, so awkward. I just, I didn't like it at all.

But, you know, we are, you know, I told Missy, some of the conversations I had, I basically went with the best advice I ever got. I think when I lost my grand here, Paul, you know, with us. I remember Matt going, coming over, and some encouragement, and he got his Bible out, and he turned over to Hebrews 11. 12? Well, 11.

Yeah. But 11, he added her to the list. He had it there. I was like, who is that? He had granny. He's like, that's your granny. But he had some other people there, too. And I thought.

He's a great cloud of witnesses. That's a good idea. Yeah. Yep. And so then we moved to Hebrews 12, which basically since we're surrounded now what you know now since we're surround she so number one put her on the list she's there so so what do we do then he says since we're surrounded by such a great cloud of witness witnesses let's throw off the things that hinder and the sin that so easily entangles

and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for so that that's the go we got to move on well then my next, the next verse is one of my favorite verses in the Bible. Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfector of our faith. So I basically told people, read the red letters, and let's go. Let me use this as motivation. Because some of our, you know, some of the family they get bogged down and use this funeral as, as a place to bury any kind of conflicts. because with all families, you always have conflicts and things that didn't go right through the years. And you can use those motivations. So that was kind of my motivation.

But anyway, and so then I stayed with Jeff Jessica, which was awesome because they were like, you know, don't leave. Won't you move out here? And so they just missed the family. And we went metal detect. In two days, I only found. And you're actually moving at least part time. Well, we're thinking about it. But I found an $18.98 half dollar, silver half dollar.

So that was all. Jeff's never found a silver coin. I literally 10 minutes into the hunt. I walk out there and it goes off. I thought it was aluminum can. And it's a mint condition, 1898 a half dollars. Like, Jeff, you've never found silver in Texas? He's like, nope.

I mean, we had just started. A dollar apiece or a $5. Half dollar. And I said, oh, man, I thought he was going to pass that. He's like, you just found that? I was like, yep, right there. So then we hung out there. We hung out there for like four hours, you know,

that's the only thing we found. But anyway, on the way back, because I had to get Mia, she was going to camp, so I had to get her back. The one news story, this is your motivation I was going to give you. Yeah, I've been waiting a while now. This is a circular, you know, you've lost. Jason's got it in his head. I need to be motivated.

Come on out with it. I'm still. Did you know? Did you know that in California, over the past two or three days? Uh-oh. California. They passed a law. The governor of California saying you cannot sing in church because of the coronavirus.

Look it up. You have got to be kidding. It's true. You hadn't heard this? I figured you listened and watched the news. I just happened to hear it in an interview. They had interviewed what happened was three. There's three churches suing.

Yeah, three other pastors sued, so they were interviewing one of them. And I caught the interview. But what was disturbing about it is when you kind of break it down and analyze it. Now, because these churches, at first they said, just like ours, they were like, okay, you can meet, but it can only be 25% capacity, whatever. So everybody's following the rules. Okay, we did that. Six feet apart, okay.

But now when they did that, they said, no. Because here's why. You can talk, but you can't sing. Well, just think about it. Because that's the underlying impression. Look, the protesters outside of the street, they can shout. There's no mandate over that. You can, you know, shout.

out, holler, do sing songs? Jay's there's a picture somewhere in L.A. I've seen it. I mean, they had a drone. And there were 50,000 of people just stacked in like cordwood from a few weeks ago, yelling and screaming. Some had a mass. Some didn't. And I'm like, how do you look at that?

And then you tell churches, you can't sing. That's crazy. Well, since the difference in men. The only way you can look at it is we do not wrestle against flesh and blood. But against the rulers, the authorities, the powers of this dark world, and the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. It's a spiritual battle going on. Well, there's no doubt. If somebody passes an edict, some governor, that you can't sing?

I mean, come on. In church. But you can get in large groups of two or three, four, five thousand and do everything, spit, holler, It's for all. And look, you already got a mask on. Yeah. You see what I mean? Right.

But you can't see. Well, that's just a spiritual undertone. Now, look, the difference in me and y'all is when I heard that on the news, I had no reaction because I didn't know if it was true or not. But when I got home, I looked it up because I thought, I want to see if that's true. Because it sounded so ridiculous that I thought, this can't be true. No, it's true. the governor sitting in his office

and says no singing in church. I thought, now that's somebody who doesn't love Jesus and who's, there's some bitterness here. When of all the things you could do, because you, like I said, you're not outlawing talking. They have a mask on. They've complied with every other thing. You're not targeting any other group of people

in any kind of way in with, you know, singing, shouting, talking loud. And then I just thought, yep, that's an anti-godly. To me, there's no other explanation than to say, I don't like God,

and it bothers me that y'all are worshipping God. I think you're exactly right. I'll take another break. And I think how you know that is because... I think they hate us, boys. They do. Well, finish your thought. Well, I was going to say,

when you look at their logic, because they'll say, well, you have a constitutionally protected right to protest. And then you're like, yeah, and a constitutionally protected right of religion to practice that. So when you were talking about baptism a minute ago, that's one of our sacraments, one of our things, that's part of our spiritual experience. The government can't tell you. I would go to jail for that. Yeah. That's fine. It's exactly right. But it's so hypocritical is my point. Yeah, I would. I mean, to me, I would preach to the ones. If they were walking down the street singing,

I could at least see some logic from their view that you're spreading, you know. But to say at your building, which, look, I think you should be singing in the streets, not necessarily in the building all the time. But having said that, this is just an attack on established churches. That's all that is.

By a lot of different leaders around the country. Boys, all I'm telling y'all is, that this bunch, if they win this upcoming election in about 100 days or so, three or four months, if they win, I fear that we are going to suffer extreme persecution. I've been saying it's coming. We might as well get ready for it. In fact, I thought the part of the pan, from just a spiritual perspective, part of the thing with the whole pandemic at the beginning, when most churches weren't meeting, I really viewed it as a sort of a first opportunity

for us to be what's it going to be like when we can't meet? Because what happens when the government? It's coming. Yeah, we're already seeing it. Well, I think this was the first sign I've seen. It's coming. All right, do you want to get into John 9? You want to take questions?

So we'll get into John 9, but I want to mention something before we get there because you brought this up a minute ago, and it sparked something on my brain. And I think it'd be good for our audience. So, you know, a funeral is an opportunity for us to say, you know, good things about a person gather as a family, basically. you're saying, see you later. We realize the resurrection, so we don't grieve like the rest of men who have no hope. But I just, as I was sitting here, I was thinking about we had a cousin, dad's nephew, that got addicted to opioids.

And so it eventually took his life. He took his life as a result because he was going to go to prison. And so for the last 10 years of his life, you know, it was just addict. It was betrayal, you know, his family. Lies. Everything was just a terrible period of time, even though we all tried to help him, mom and dad especially. But I thought about it when I was asked to speak at his funeral because he and I were close

early in our life. And so, you know, I was just like, man, this is a tough one because his life was not good. Even though he had made attempts, you know, to get off of it through those last few years and had had some spiritual moments. but still overall was a train wreck. And everybody that was there was our family or people that knew him. Well, he had burned everybody in the group, all of us, you know. And so I just never forget when I was sitting there.

I was watching. They did those things where they show pictures. And it was really good for me because I remembered him from when we were young, you know, when he was a good guy before he got hooked on drugs. So as I was sitting, I thought, you know, I mean, the last 10 years were bad. But the first 42, you know, he was a good guy. You know, we loved him, but we still loved it. So it helped me kind of prepare my heart.

So, you know, I did something at that funeral I had never done before. And now I've done it at everyone since that I've spoken because I've done a lot of funerals. And it was to give the audience an opportunity to forgive him and not be bound anymore when you leave here to start a process because he's gone. So he can't make it right. See what I'm saying? Well, that's why I brought up the Hebrew. was 12. That's why I love that thought that you brought up.

I think there were people there without getting too deep into it that had had some issues, you know, in the family, just through the years. Right. And so Missy was kind of nervous about it. And that's why I got into this passage. He just, you know, I know we revisited, we visited it earlier, and I'm revisiting it because if you look at it like that, because you're right. And it's not our job to get up at a funeral.

And, you know, I've heard people say, well, you know, they preached him to heaven. You know, just some, he's gone. Right. And, you know, Jesus does say let the dead bury their own dead. That's why I'm always looking forward. Right. They're gone. It's not going to make you feel any better on how the preacher weaves their life.

You know, we're all alive. Right. So it's time to move on. But I love that because it says, we're surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses. Let us throw off everything that hinders. Well, you think, what is that? We're all humans.

We all make mistakes. We've all had to deal with bitterness, past mistakes. So that pretty much covers everything. And then it says, and the sin that so even, easily entangles. All the hindrances and disagreements that we have and all the, you know, alienation and divisiveness in our family, it's what you do about it is what makes us. Right. And so you can either choose to sin over it. Right. Or you can choose to forgive and move on. But to me in this context, it all came from since all these people are dead and

or watching, I guess, in some way. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for Jesus. Because it's like one of our family members who was particularly upset, you know, with G. G. Dine. I mean, to a point to where I thought, if I'm looking and I, I, I, I remember that verse, we don't grieve like the rest of men who have no hope. You mentioned that twice. Right. But if I'm looking at you and it does seem like you are, I'm going to read this. Because I'm like, look, you've got to run the race with perseverance.

Don't get so bogged down in whatever is in your mind. You know, we're sad. It's okay to cry, but we're fixed to run the race here. And we're going to use this as motivation. And I guess what struck me was that, I mean, I've spoken on. lot of funerals for a lot of families and a lot of people I didn't know that well but obviously they were connected but hit me that every time you're gathering that setting there's somebody that has old wounds and old stuff and whatever so the verse I read jays hebrews 12 same context but a little bit

later verse 15 says see to it that no one misses the grace of God and that no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many and so that's what happens because people if you carry that bitterness and you continue to carry it. So what I told our family was, I said, look, I know some of you are so deeply wounded sitting here today that you can't just do this because I'm reading the verse. I realize it's going to take a minute. But you've got to start the, at least start the process in your heart because he's gone. And if you carry that hurt and wound in your life, then you're going to carry everything that destroyed him the last 10 years of his life. You'll keep it going. I mean, that's the problem when we can't release.

The only thing that will stop anger or bitterness, the only thing that are sobbed, just forgive them. That's right. In your anger, do not sin, and the way it's worded, do not let the sun go down while you're still angry. He said, better get over it quick. Right. Well, if that's the admonition and don't give the devil,

level of foothold. So the evil one works in there, especially with the anger. There's a lot of angry people running around on planet earth. A lot of them. And that's the whole problem with this whole thing we see in our country. And a lot of them don't know why they're angry. They just are. That's right.

Well, well, his goal was verse three. You know, he pointed you to Jesus in verse two. He said, let's fix your eyes on Jesus. So that's why I tell, you know, at any funeral, you need to read the red letters. You read them. because you're always going to feel better, number one, but it's also going to give you a bigger picture because that's what Jesus did in every situation.

He gave it a bigger picture of life. So you fix your eyes on it, and then you consider him and what he had endured. Because no matter whatever happened to you, nothing is as bad as what happened to Jesus because he didn't do one thing wrong, and they punished him. You hear that same line over and over.

I mean, you're trying to tell me after what they did to me that I need to, you know, forgive them. And you're trying to say, love never fails. Never. Yeah. Just get over, dude. Yeah.

But I think that's why Jesus went through the whole process, is that you always, we always use as an excuse for something that's bad that's happened to us on why we are the way we are. And Jesus can always, trumped that because that was the worst other than the innocent you know babies and right because Jesus was innocent but he's the only adult that was

innocent they got punished if Jesus could the history of the world if Jesus could muster up after they beat him half to death falsely accused him beat him high to death and literally strung him up by nailing spikes through his feet and his hands, and he still could say, forgive them. They don't know what they're doing. If you could still have forgiveness at that point. As he's hanging there. Well, and not only that, Phil, it says, let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfector of faith. Yep. Who for the joy set before him endured the cross. I was zeroed in on enduring the cross. Well, who for the joy set before him? Well, who for the joy set before him? Well, who for the joy set before him?

what was that? A perfectly innocent man. But what was the joy set before? Us. Had to be us. Had to be us. The only reason he did it. That's right. And with us and all our mistakes. So then he goes on the next verse saying, consider him who endured such opposition from sinful men so that you, which was his point, throw off everything that entangles the sin that's, I mean, everything that hinders the sin so easily entangles, so that you, will not grow weary and lose heart. Those are the two things. When you quit, that's when you quit.

Yeah. When you start getting, well, I'm tired. You know, I don't know why. I've heard people say, I've just tired of, you know, and they just give up. And so then they start doing things that are sending me. Plus, it really helps you. The old guy, week before last Sunday morning,

I'm getting out of the rig, and I've already mentioned this. Some guy was calling me a white supremacist. You know, some dude standing on the side of the road. I'm a white supremacist and a racist. I heard those two remarks. And my bodyguard said, he's on in the building. So he goes over and had a little interview with him,

invited him to hear a few words about Jesus. But a week later, there was three people that were born again in the same structure. And the guy was just, he didn't. know what he was talking about but you said would you hold that against that old guy no it's kind of a sad thing really i'm like hey did it cross your mind not to go the next sunday um never entered my mind because someone never entered my mind never entered my mind inherently oh no it no which is my point about the whole thing it was more motivation for me than speaking of motivation jays that

motivates me when somebody's a way yeah i'm like well that's why i feel sadness when i see these people so bitter and so hurt you know sad thing to what it's real i've known families that were like people haven't spoken to one another in 20 years you know it just you're like well how does that happen who was that bunch up in missouri the hatfield mccles they're in kentucky kentucky they fought for about well 100 years i'm not sure they forgot what the what the fight was about after a while by the time you get so many generations into a fight after a while somebody's forgotten why it all started i'm not sure they were believers. They probably were.

All we're going to be able to do is preview John Nunn because we're almost out of time. Let's take another break, dude. But I wanted to bring up something. I came across something pretty interesting. You know, I started thinking about this. I mean, Jesus bends down, you know, spits on the ground, makes a mud pie. After they tried to figure out who's at fault here that someone. is born blind.

And so he just lickety, spit, and heals him. I literally just thought of that. That needs to be the title of your sermon out. I've never heard. I've never actually heard the exegetical. I'm going to write that down.

Lickety spit. Lickety spit. It literally just came to my mind. So look, I got to thinking about this. Because what we're fixed to do during the investigation of this, of course,

This is like John 5 because he did this on the Sabbath. So that comes up again. Here he is. I mean, well, how do you make a mud pile on the Sabbath? They didn't say that, but pretty much. What are you doing? You're by the way you're there. I'll just insert why you're talking about that.

One of the things Jesus said, I think earlier was, but it's coming up. No, it's in John 10, where he said, don't blaspheme the Holy Spirit. he said, look, if you don't believe I'm who I say I am, he said, at least believe the miracles. He said, in other words, what they should have done is said, wait a minute, he was blind, yeah, now you can see. You're like, even a miracle didn't do it for him. They're like, wait a minute here.

I mean, who's for, what do I mean? Why come he was blind to begin with? And I'm sitting here thinking, if I had been there, I believe I'd have said, but maybe it's an unbeliever. You're like, ah. Well, I got to thinking, Phil. I got to thinking, why would he do this? Because when people see this, the number one they think is gross. Well, that's gross.

Yeah. But think about this. Jesus is the creator of the universe. We've already read John 1, 2, nothing that has been made was made without him. That's right. Well, this was God. The actual spitting that we do, saliva and spit, that's God's idea. Well, you got to have it.

He created this. Yeah. And so I got to thinking about this, well, what were the Pharisees problem here? They couldn't digest what Jesus was representing. Couldn't do it. Couldn't do it. So I got to looking at spitting. I was like, what does spitting do?

I was amazed what saliva does. No, not necessarily spitting, but, I mean, I think God knew that if you put a bunch of salava in your mouth, somebody's going to start spitting. You don't think he was surprised. You remember the guy that came down here? I just think of the things I've had to spit out, and I was glad I had to. Well, look, I did some research, and my point is. The wearer of all to do so.

My point is this, I do think there's a correlation there, because when I looked at the roll of saliva, no, that was a lot of things. But the top four, I guess, that stuck out to me, it protects your teeth. it keeps you from choking because it gives you some lubrication, but it starts digesting immediately, whatever how God made us. Yeah, when you're eating, and it also creates for whatever you're eating to taste better. I don't know. I've never heard of anyone who couldn't spit, but I would think that if you were not,

didn't have enough morpester in your mouth, though you would spit from time to time, I would think that would be a terrible position to be in. Why does just us talking about it making more saliva in my mouth out of? Is that my so conscious? Well, what I'm saying is I think he takes such a random thing as saliva and with mud and then does the miracle that it would force you to believe. That's why I don't think it's possible for the writer of this, John the Apostle.

he said let me just sit I need to dream up something that I can hoodwink the human race I'll tell you what I'll come up with a story whereby Jesus spit on the ground

I just don't think if it was a lie I don't think you could have dreamed up the things that he did I think that's it It boggues the man But you know what it's interesting

I looked up the many spitting records and look there were hundreds. I mean, a couple that stood out to me were, every year they have the world's longest cricket spit. And it has all the rules. Like it's got to be brown. Do you spit an actual cricket? An actual cricket. It has to be frozen and then it's thought. He's a dead cricket. He's a dead cricket. He's frozen, but he's thawed and you have, when you put it in your mouth, you have 20 seconds. You know what the record is?

32 feet that's a long way that's a long way to spit it cricket I saw the old African-American woman sitting on the ports I've told you

this before and she spit sweet Garrett snuff from the edge of the ports me and sigh was standing there watching and it went from here to that curtain back there

I would say 15 or 20 feet and I said I looked at sigh I said would you like to be able to spit like that or what? He said, she's, she's the world champion. I never seen, I never seen sweet Gary go that far.

31 feet. And it was like in a string. It wasn't like in a plug. It was just like, shoo. About a. Like a water hose. Well, it was just like four, five inch, three, four inches, kind of spaced out. Like a rocket.

I told size that I wish I could do that. I ain't never seen anybody spit like that. Well, I love, the regular. These are bangs that some people didn't have in their childhood, but we were just young boys, but we were impressed. What I'm saying is it's an attention to get it. The 32 feet, that is pretty incredible. Well, it's 31 is the record.

And a cherry pit is 93 feet. They have cherry pit spitting competition every year. But that'd be more like a blow, like a blow dart, I guess. Yeah, I mean, it's like a pooh, yeah. But the reason I'm saying this is here, I think, that's why Jesus chose this. I mean, I know people think spitting is gross, but when you look at what saliva does and then humans are enamored by it,

I thought the same thing about, you know, passing gas or farting or what are you going to call it? These people that think that that's uncivilized, they're miserable people. You know why? Because when you don't expel gas, you cramp. And when you're denying that that's funny, Why is it funny? It's always funny. Look, kids, every kid from two to four goes through the potty bow.

Oh, yeah. And parents do the worst thing they can do. They quit talking like that. Stop talking like that. No, it's funny. They realize that when you poop, it's funny. And the parents are like, no. So look, when I got to my third kid, I said, you know what?

I'm not doing that. We're celebrating. I'm celebrating. Now look, my daughter, she'll walk. through the house, wrong. Because I told her when she was two to four, I was like, go for it. It's funny. God made you that way.

So she, even today, and you've heard her, she tells jokes about it. Say something knowing you ever since you were born, but I had never thought about that. Well, what I'm saying is God created that. And now you're going to be delusional and think that that makes you uncivilized. Yeah. And I know God has a sense of humor because he put odor in it and he put sound to it. I just have, I've trained myself, even if man, woman, or child, or a beast, I'm oblivious to that. Well, when you get over 70, nobody cares.

And if people understand. And I noticed. Well, yeah. What helps, I don't know whether it's part of the equation or not, but I have noticed that when you get to be 74, that's what I am. I would say in the last three years, my smell got a little, A little less, a little less. Well, I got that to now.

Ms. Kay says, could you smell what's on in the oven? I said, Ms. Kay, I can't smell anymore. I can't smell it. Oh, you're saying it does it. Stink, you just can't smell it. Oh, that's two different things. That doesn't help. I can't smell it.

I mean, you could lay one out. I'd never smell it. I mean, I don't care. But the downside is you can't smell. You can't smell the peach cobbler either. I used to go through the woods that could smell squirrels when I was a boy. But now, I can't smell what's on for dinner. But look, one of my buddies told me a story that when he was dating his wife,

he said that they go. He's at the family gathering, first time meeting the family. He said the dad of the girl he's dating, which he eventually married, he said he's telling some story. And he, like, halfway through the story, he just kind of stopped and reared up. And he said it was just like guttural. the like something going through a garbage disposal.

And he said, nobody laughed. Nobody snickered. And he said, I lost it. He said, I could not maintain control. He said, I had to get up leave. He said, you know, when you don't want to laugh. But it didn't get the way of him married a girl. Well, right, he still married her.

But his point was, he still got her. There's no divorce. Yeah, they're still married. But his point was, what's wrong with these people? in that we can't chuckle, but he said the family was stone face, which made it worse for him. Oh, yeah. Because he just, I just, that this girl, we're dating, and the guy literally, like, because I never say, oh, boy, sorry about that.

Why are you leaning to one side? That's not really doing anything. But in your mind. It just amplifies. Yeah. And so I only say all this to say this, that God, I think if you look at the purpose of why we have these things, it will, it helps us understand that here's the creative universe doing something that, because I think people in the world read this, that's so, that's,

he spent on the grant, you actually want me to believe that. Well, yeah, yeah, I do. What's the word you're supposed to have etiquette? Yeah, etiquette. You're supposed to be. Well, that's what I'm challenging to this story. Well, I think that is something that somebody created that it's not the right etiquette where I'm saying, well, yeah, the alternative is what? Rye the ramp round on the ground with cramps and you're so anxious. You just need to break wind.

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