Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 1261 | Jase Breaks Down Why Jelly Roll’s Grammys Speech Felt Like a Light in Darkness

Episode Date: February 3, 2026

Jase, Al, and Zach recount days without power, dangerous cleanup, and how quickly ordinary life can turn into survival mode. Jase shares a sobering close call with a chainsaw that he didn’t even realize happened until later, forcing a hard look at how fragile life really is. The guys shift to Jelly Roll’s bold Jesus moment at the Grammys and why shining publicly for faith is often met with resistance.  In this episode: Genesis 1, verse 3; First John 1, verses 5–7; John 15, verses 1–2; Romans 1, verses 21–25; Second Corinthians 4, verses 16–18; Mark 4, verses 39–41 “Unashamed” Episode 1261 is sponsored by: https://texassuperfood.com⁠ — Get 35% off your first order with code UNASHAMED today! https://smartcredit.com/unashamed — Get a 7-day trial for just $1, see how many points you can add to your credit score! https://bravebooks.com/unashamed ⁠ — Save 20% on your first order with code UNASHAMED ⁠https://cozyearth.com/unashamed  — Take advantage of an exclusive deal only available January 25th- February 8th with code UNASHAMEDBOGO! ⁠http://unashamedforhillsdale.com⁠ — Sign up now for free, and join the Unashamed hosts every Friday for Unashamed Academy Powered by Hillsdale College Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://open.spotify.com/show/3LY8eJ4ZBZHmsImGoDNK2l Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Chapters: 0:00 Life after the ice-pocalypse & eight days without power 5:40 Zach gets stranded & surviving the freeze 12:05 Jase’s in-laws move in! 19:30 Clearing roads, fallen trees, & how dangerous the storm really was 27:10 Light vs. darkness & why storms reveal what you believe 33:40 Jelly Roll’s public faith moment at the Grammy’s 40:10 Being prepared physically & spiritually when control disappears 47:00 Lessons from the storm & an eternal perspective — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. We, this is the maiden voyage post-icepocalypse. I've named our experience as the icepocalypse. When I left my house today and it was nine days ago when this thing hit, I still had ice all over my steps. I couldn't walk, I couldn't walk to my truck. Now it's just all slippery. Same issue. Yeah. Which most people south of our interstate.

Which is where we sit today. Yeah. Which wasn't bad at all here. It wasn't as bad. But we just got power. We spent eight days out without power. Eight days without power. Old school.

And now look, I'm going to have to say this right off the top where we're going with this. What I noticed, a pattern develops that. Because we hadn't even talked about you coming down to experience the duck hunting in the ice. and then I just looked up and he was gone like the smoke or the wind. I was like, whatever happened to Zach? He was like a vapor. Last I heard he was headed to Walmart

and I never saw him. This is the first time I've seen him since he just vanished. Well, he got him a little taste of the hunt, which Zach, I want to hear about that his spirits. And then he came to my house, which I had a generac. So the smartest thing I did was six years ago

after the hurricane was invest in a generator. And dear old dad was the reason why. He said, Ow, you'd be an idiot not to buy that. And I said, you're right. So I have power. The only problem is... You call him an idiot.

Well, I'm not. That dad did. But the only problem with Jay's when you got the generac in the neighborhood is then everybody came to my house. So we were feeding 15 plus people. It was a cesspool of disease and sickness. It got sick and people were throwing up. You had your grandda on there.

So there was a dog and it's just viruses spreading around. But I will tell you, I mean, four days. I mean, we were down there four days. Yeah, I did. I was down there four days with Jace. And which, so the initial instruction was if you want to go hunt with us, you have to be prepared to be stuck down here for four days. Yeah.

Which turned down to eight. There was a window of opportunity. where after the first day, he said, we're going to take the nurseman back and Christian back at 9 a.m. But if you stay past this point, then you're probably not getting out. That's true. And so Bear, my son was hunting right down the road from us inside.

So do we need? Do you guys care if Bear came? And I thought y'all were going to push back on that. But then I realized that they wanted an extra gun on the blind. So they said, yeah, bring him on. So me and Bearer got stuck down there with Jace and Jay and Burley. And yeah, it was like a meat fest. We ate a bunch of meat.

It was the greatest duck hunt I've ever been on. Oh, it was epic nuninal. And look, me and O'Bare bonded. Me and Zach, not so much. But Zach did have a moment. He had a moment. I want to hear this. I want to hear this.

I will give you credit because you have yuppie tendencies. and but you've done something right because your kids are absolutely fabulous. I told Bear, I was like, you're welcome here anytime, buddy. He was a giver, not a taker. He was ready to work. He just enjoyed it.

So we had a milder Drake come in and, of course, we, you know, just to put this season in perspective, we were at about 200 ducks until the ice storm. Ooh. Total for the season. Worst season ever. Of course, we had no water.

But that ice, not only did it bring the ducks down, it actually provided way more water for us because it was, whatever they said it was going to, however many inches, they were way off. Yeah. Because it was, we got hammered. But every day the water would come up, and it just, more ducks came, more ducks came. So we killed about 350 the last nine days. Wow. Now, that's incredible. And the last day...

So you doubled the season total. The last week... Almost triple. Yeah. Yeah. And the last day, we had three groups, 18 men. You can do the math. And we shot 92 total between the three groups.

So we were... Sounds like a lot, but we were like... I don't know, 15 short of the limit, 16, something like that. But we hunted all day. Yeah. So two groups. did and then one they they waved the white flag but old zack a maller drake came in course i'm kind of the captain and the blind and i'm like when to shoot him and of course i was fixed to just cut him

when he come by because he had circled a few times so as soon as he cut my corner i said shoot him and i raised up and was fixed to shoot him but then i just realized oh he's coming in the decoys so i waited i waited i mean i've already said i've already given the command shoot him. I waited. And about the time I was squeezing the trigger, a shot rang out, and I ended up making sure this duck was absolutely all his regrets had been removed. And I was about a second behind. But the first shot was perfect shot.

So I asked the question. I said, who fired that shot? And Zach said, that was me. And I said, well, you finally are. arrived. Your yuppiness has been dissolved. I said, Jason, I've been hunting with you before, but it's like all the past, he said, the day you have become a man.

And then it was about 20 minutes of, of him telling me. Zach Dasher actually raised up a firearm. He said, well, I'll be. Zach Dasher killed a duck. I mean, my goodness. He said it was so surprised. That, like, oh, I was stunned. I was shocked.

Now, the duck was ten. yards. Almost emotional. But still, I thought, okay. This is the fact

he did it. Oh, I was stunned. Let me tell you something. Man, I actually prayed that Bear

would get stuck down there with us because, I mean, he needed that too. And there was, I will say, there was a day,

one day where me and Stone said, I think this is going to be a, what Phil calls it ride the hole, which is what you do when there's

just nothing there, but you just grind it out. So Stone's like, you ain't, we ain't killing no more dogs. He said, I'm on lazy. And he kind of told me, you probably want to come with me. And so I went back

with Stone, and Bear stayed back with Chase, and I think they did actually ride the hole. I may have got one more after he left. I don't know what something after we went. No, it was more than one, but it was not, it was pretty slow. We had a couple of slow days in there. And then a couple days I couldn't hunt, because

once determined the severity of the ice storm. My poor wife, Yeah, she was like, I need a little help here. So one night, I just decided to drive really slow

in the middle of the night because the roads were still icy. And it was a crazy story when I got to, I mean, it just kept getting worse. The further I went north, it got worse and worse. And when I got to our neighborhood

in my headlights, I look and there's a tree that I couldn't get my arms around across our road. I'm like, I'm not going going in, I'm not, if I go to our house, I'll be walking, because you're not going past this. It looked like the gate, it fell on the gate, and it just mangled. I mean, it's mangled, totally. Of which I cut a few days later, but I wind up going into your driveway, Al, which I made the maiden voyage on that.

Now, the next morning, and then I walked to my house, but the next morning, when I walked over there, I was like, if I would have been able to see down your driveway, clearly, I would have. I have never tried that. But in the moment, I wanted to be with my wife, and, you know, I had to bring her some firewood. And it was, it, it just evolved in a downward spiral after that because we were thinking three or four days. But her parents, you know, they lost their power. And at some point, they were just living in their vehicle with the heat on. And my wife was like, that's not going to work. And they're like, oh, no, the power's coming up.

any minute. Yeah. Because you kept getting these reports, they'd say, you know, this time, but it was never, it was never right. It was days after. So they,

we moved my parents in, which, okay, you have no power. You move Missy's parents and their pets in. Yeah. And it was so crazy

because the whole time they were there, I was thinking, they need help. We're family. I was thinking, honor your father and mother. Yeah.

But in the back of my mind, Al, I was thinking, leave and cleave. Honor your father and mother. Leave and clean. For this reason, a man leaves his father and mother. Because what happened. He was riding the rail of the Theologies Act, because when you're living in the moment, and Benjamin Franklin had it best,

once you get past three days. Well, it was the problem, Al, this developed. You know, it was really good because you realized you're supposed to honor your father and mother. We only had one room. that was warm because we had a gas fireplace in our bedroom. So Missy's like, you realize they're going to have to move in our bedroom? And I was like, well, you realize I'm going to have to move out if they move.

And she's like, well, yeah. So, Al, your house during the apocalyptic snowstorm was infested with viruses because you had some sick grandkids around. Yeah, and they were spreading the wealth with the rest of us. It was not a fun time in our house right now. Well, I had some family members with me that got sick. I did not get sick. And I think that's because of our good friend, Dr. Dennis Black, who invented Texas Superfood

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You never want to wake up here and. Kids are dogs gagging. That's just... Yeah. And I thought, should I go in there? You know? It's like, no, we'll just have to deal with it later. But I looked up, well, Missy's not there.

She's moved over to the cold wing. I found out the next day that it was because I was snoring so loud. She's like, I'd rather be cold than listen to this chainsaw going on. So we did that for a few days. But what I was going to say that what started off this conversation, So many things happen along the way because it's just like anything else. You start going back to when times when you had no electricity. And my wife, I have to just give her credit.

I mean, she just evolved into, she cooked a meal every day. We had a gas stove. But like a complete meal. I mean, we only got one meal a day, but it was a big one. And she had candles. I don't know where she kept getting on these candles. And she'd have it lit up at night. And I mean, as it went along, it just got better and better.

But multiple people along the way, because, you know, I finally realized the only way I'm going to clear this road is if I do it. Yeah. Because we're technically a private road. And I waited a day. Probably you and David Owen are the only ones with equipment to even do anything. Guess who was out there. I did the cutting, and then he did the tractor. Yeah.

Removal. Yeah, he kind of had a rake. And just made it where at least when the ice did melt, you could get out of there. But it was tricky because there were so many limbs down. Well, and you had to be careful because a good friend of ours, their son was in his 20s, I think. I mean, he had a tree fall on his back, broke his back.

Yeah. And I don't know how he is at this point, but we've been praying for him. But it was a very dangerous situation. I mean, you had to watch it. There's lines down. A kid got electrocuted just the last day or two. and so it's a it's a very dangerous situation

and but it's just the the complexity of the living jays when you were saying that i was because we had to so we were feeding our crew which we had set up for this but then we had some extras you know that people that were in bad situation one is a friend whose husband's deployed she's got a little young child so they stayed with us but then i was having to trek over to take food to mom and ain't ann because we came home i Zach i was in 60s degree Gulf Shores in a perfect situation, but decided to come home because I knew we'd need help and I knew Mom.

I'm really glad you did. Yeah, and it was worth it. It was great because we got stocked up on food. But Mom and A&N, they decided, they were like, I said, well, you come stay at our house because we're going to have power because I have a generate. And she was like, no, it's going to be too loud over there. I was like, well, Mom, you're just going to stay over here. So we got her, Willie got her a generator.

So they stayed there with one of their sitter ladies, and she rode out the whole storm of them. Well, what's funny is twice they ran out of gas in their, have you heard this story? Yeah, yeah. But it was like 3.30 in the morning. The other one was four, which I couldn't believe they didn't call me. She's like, oh, no, I called Willie. And I was surprised that Willie got up and went and got them some gas because it was hard to find gas.

Yeah, it got hard to find gas. But Willie also has a couple of guys. that work for them, that helpful for stuff like that. Yeah. So look. We just may do. We may do.

And look, a lot of people were way worse off than we are. And I think in any of these things, you have givers and takers, and then you have people who need help. Yeah. And so we did our best. I'm even today doing a thing with Samaritan's purse

to bring some more volunteers here. Because half the city is fine, but the north half, it's really bad. So we need some. more volunteers and Samaritan purse and even one kingdom. They were in our neighborhood two days after one kingdom was, which you guys have supported them.

We appreciate it. It turned out to be a weight problem that ice mostly broke off big limbs on most trees. I've never heard anything like it. We were standing out there. The initial thing was heavy sleet, and then it turned to freezing, rain and that's what out of the weight. And I'd say within two hours of this whole process starting, it sounded like cannons going off all across. No, it was, it was, it looked like a, it looked like a war zone. And people use that language a lot, but that's what it looked like.

I went down and it felt like that kind of had that apocalyptic feel, kind of like it did when we had the storm here. We, I ended up going over to Phil's house, which the generac did not come on there for some reason. But I went over there because when we lost power where we were staying with Jace, we had no lights. And so we ended up, which was a whole other issue. And how was that, how was it with like six men in a room in the dark sleeping? I think there was actually four of us in that little room. It was Maysack, Jay, and Bear.

Bear. Just. But I've heard of stone snoring. Oh, it was a problem. I mean, it's like a freight train. That was an issue. But, you know, we were in the old original, unashamed pot. podcast recording studio. That's where we were at. That's where we stayed out. Oh, that's right. That's

now back to being the true layer. It became a layer. I can tell you that. Oh, it was a layer. But we were the last people to lose power, believe it or not. Of course, ironically, they're probably the last to get it back on because they still don't have it down there. But what I was going to say is, you know, I had a lot of people when I had interactions with them, they were so scared that it was going to be a podcast story. They're like, don't share this on the podcast, you know. And so I thought, well, the name of our podcast is unashamed. This just happened because I had a couple of really weird things that happened,

and I won't use the names, but I was out sawing and I look up, and there's a vehicle backing up in my yard. And I'm like, you're not. you're not getting out of here because it's a pretty big hill. So I'm waving, hollering, turn the saw. So a fellow looks at me and they're like, what are you hollering about?

I said, you're in my yard. Because it was all ice. And he's like, am I? He's like, don't tell this on the bike. He's like, well, what are we going to do? He was just talking about calling a wrecker. I was like, no, we don't call a wrecker. I'm going to get a chain and pull you out.

But it made me realize how everything that you think, it just messes with your mind. Because I saw, he thought he was on a road. Weirdly enough, my yard kind of looked like the road. And I noticed in your driveway, people did the same thing. I've got some major ruts going. And so, you know, it made me think, though, about where we're at in First John, talking about these illustrations of light and darkness. I mean, you know what I kept thinking about every five minutes?

Let there be light. What a joy that we have light. Because you're bumbling, fumbling around in the dark for eight days. And I kept thinking this is what it's like to be outside of Jesus and have no purpose. You're running into things. Bad things are happening. It's chaos. And you need that heat.

You need light. all the things that we talk about it just was a living illustration and you know it when you see it because it pierces through the darkness

it I mean it's such a contrast but you know we were debating this at the beginning of the podcast before we started about when jelly roll I said he came out recently and had a speech I sent you all from the Grammys which I thought was

I thought it was from the Grammys which would have been on February 1st or second and just Jason said that he'd already given the speech somewhere. I don't know if he maybe it's multiple times. But, you know, there was so much swirling around the Grammys this year. And, man, when he spoke, it was so like authentic and real.

I mean, I don't know the guy. I don't know his whole like conversion story, whatever. But clearly the guy's like, he's like, look, I see you, Jesus. I hear you. And I thought it was a very clear presentation of the gospel that he was. In one minute. Unashamedly. In one minute.

I was like unashamed. And it was just like a moment that was shockingly like it was like a bright light in this place. And this guy's not, it wasn't like a accusatory thing at anybody. He's just like, hey, this is, Jesus saved me. End of the day. Like this is like Jesus. He is the answer to the whole thing. It is all about Jesus.

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And so he just said, I think we should have a country music halftime program when it's in Nashville because it's the home of country music. He was just making a point. He wasn't really aiming anybody else. But then I noticed there was like controversy because we got this guy this year. What's Briar Rabbit?

What's his name? I haven't been on the internet for about 10 days. I thought the Super Bowl had already happened. Maddie said it was Bad Bunny. So Bad Bunny is apparently something, but all of his stuff, when he won an award at the Grammys was all anti-Trump, anti-ice enforcement. You know, he just made this whole big political rant. It's so negative, and I don't know anything about this person, but there's been a lot of

controversy about him even being picked. But I just thought Jelly Roy, he was like, man, let's just have something positive and good. He was just so positive about it. Well, the light, the, the, the, the, the, the, was, I just pulled up the quote here, he said, I want to tell you all right now, Jesus is for everybody. He's not on, Jesus is not on by one political party. See, I love that because it's not partisan. This isn't a partisan message. Jesus is not on by no music label. Jesus is Jesus and anybody can have a relationship with him. And I love you, Lord. So good. I mean, that is, and I think that's a message, honestly, for anybody, right?

But that is a light that shines through because it's a light that, the light of Christ that's inviting the world. inviting all men. I think that's it. In the first, John? We're talking about that. It's for all men. I mean, Christ has invited you into a relationship and into participation into his life.

He sounds like a man who received a pardon, and it was good news, and he's so excited about it. He can't quit talking about it. Was he in prison? Yeah, he was in prison at some point. He said I was in a cell. He said I was in a cell with a Bible, the size, this size,

and something that plays. music, you know. But I love it. And he honored his wife as well, who was there and said, you know, without Jesus and you, I wouldn't be here. I just, it was very warming. Yeah, I thought, it's just that, it reminds me that famous quote, Phil said at Angola that you can be under lock and key and still be free in Jesus.

And I think that, you know, you're in that moment, like you said, Jase, when you're, when the lights are out. And you asked what that was like. I mean, there was a moment where. when me and Jay came back the night that Bear and Jay's hunted after that, they hunted for a while. We came back and all the lights went out. And we were sitting in there putting in candles.

I'd gone down to Phil's house and just confiscated a bunch of candles. Literally, it smelled good in there because I had about 40 candles of Kay's old, like scented candles. And we had all the candles up. And I looked at Jay and I was like, man, we got to go outside or we're going to get depressed because it was just so dark, you know what I mean? And so we went out there and built a fire outside. It was super cold, but like we had to have that light, you know,

and to make Jay called somebody. So what are you doing? Where did we came outside because we didn't want to get depressed in there. But it is depressing. You're sitting in dark. You have no context. You don't know where anything's at. You're like stumbling around tripping over stuff.

But just that one little flame, it's interesting how it could light up an entire area that you can actually see and move around and get a context, move where you're going. So it really was kind of a great metaphor. Oh, really? And the day after you left, which was good timing for you, because that was the roughest day, which, look, we shot the ducks, so I thought it was worth it. But during the course of the day, we lost a truck, totaled his truck. We lost one of my Argos.

It hasn't run since. We had a young man that works here. He's been here about a year. Well, he got trapped down there. So we're like, you're in, because everybody left. Everybody pulled Dasher, you know. They're like, it's too rough around here. And so it was, I think it was four of us.

It was me, burly, Jay. Yeah, and the young man. No, and Chad. So we had no Joe. Who affectionately called Dingleberry? Well, we call him different names, but you got to iron your stripes. He's one of those Central Florida red names. Well, here's what happened.

When I had this argo, I didn't realize the water was so deep. Because we didn't have a good hunt. That's what sent Zach packing, you know. And he had to make a trip to Walmart, the one in North Carolina. It's about 20% true, but it's a typical Jay's fashion. So what happened was, you know, Burley, he's like, yeah, Rick, my truck this morning. He slid off the road, you know, which he limped there. But it was, I looked at it.

I thought, ooh, yeah. One, your axle and your tire, you're going to need some work there. And he's like, yeah. So we take Margo, well, I was like, I think all these ducks are timber, well, the ice is so thick that when we,

we rounded a bend, and we had to cut our way, because all these trees fell over there too, see, you imagine. We did that for two or three days. And you had to have a chain cell. Well, this water kept getting deeper, and I was breaking the ice.

but we saw about 3,000 ducks get up in the vicinity of a duck blind. Well, now we lost our mind. We're like, we're going out there. But all we have is our go, and all of us are in it. And it only holds two people. And at some point, the water got so deep that this thing's an amphibious vehicle. It goes from riding on land to kind of a propulsion. But the problem was the ice was so thick.

it didn't have enough power. I would like bump into the ice. So I said, well, y'all got to get out and break the ice. I actually took a little video of it was Jay Burley and Cade is his name. They were breaking the ice. Well, I noticed at some point, and then I'm just following them in the Argo. They're making a trail for me. I noticed that Cade started shaking violently.

And I'm like, what seemed to be the problem there? I mean, it's not that cold. I figured they'd be warm, breaking ice. He said, well, somewhere in breaking this ice, I've punched a hole. Punched holes in my waiters. Oh, boy. And Burley, who is a nurse, that's why I wasn't worried. I thought, we have a nurse.

And he's like, you're in the first stages of hypothermia. Oh. Said if it gives you incentive to get to the blind, which I took that to me. he's a young man he just arrived i said that gives you incentive to follow jesus what's the worst thing that can happen to you in jesus resurrection here you go and so we stopped took a time out in this moment and had a good jesus discussion while he's violently shaking we get him to the behind so much compassion man because he's like i think i need to you know might need to go i was like go where?

We're three miles from anywhere, you know? You're where you're going to be. You need to build a fire and get over and hug it, and then every once a while, raise up and shoot. It'll warm you up, you know. And so we wind up killing a limb of ducks, but it was a tough day. I mean, when I just looked at it,

because Missy said, how'd it go? For a young Kate, it was a really tough day. So we lost the truck, we lost an Argo. I said, we had a guy have hypothermia. We thought he's going to die. Almost lost a man. He pulled through. But we had a good Jesus talk about that.

And we wound up killing a limit of times. Does the man know Jesus? Do we do it? Oh, yeah, he knows Jesus. But I'm telling you what. I think, like all the relationships in times like this, it tends to galvanize what you believe. I mean, it becomes real.

So all in all, look, it was a lot of opportunities to help people, and it's still ongoing. And so Lisa and I left about halfway through the ice apocalypse. We had an event in Illinois. And it was so funny because we get there. Of course, up there, this same storm system dumped a foot of snow on them. Yeah. And which is, according to them, unusual.

There's a large amount, 12 to 16 inches of snow. And so we'd say, you know, we'd be talking and they'd say, oh, where are y'all from? You know, we're from Louisiana. Oh, what do you think about all this snow? I said, well, actually, like, I came from a place way worse than this, you know, and then you have to tell them the story about the ice because, like, they're functioning. I'm going to give a little sermon here because I realize people from the North, making fun of, you know, people in the South because we don't understand cold.

There's a difference when it's ice. And my buddy who lives in the North, you know, he kept saying, I mean, well, what's the big deal? You can drive. I was like, no, no, no. You can't walk. You take one step. You're going down. That's right.

I saw my wife there one day. Because we put all our stuff that was in the refrigerator and freezer. You just put it outside. You know, and you had an ice, Jess, and that actually worked quite well. Yes. But she stepped on that ice, and she just started doing it. It was like, what's the game you play? Twister.

Yeah, it was like I was watching Twister, you know. The problem is at our age, Jays, something. twist, they don't twist back. I mean, I use my four-wheel drive more in the last 10 days than I've used since I've had that truck. And I've had that three or four years. And I found out, unfortunately, with mine, my four-wheel drive does not work. Yeah.

Because I don't ever use it. Exactly. And then all of a sudden I needed it, and it would not go in four-wheel drive. It just kept saying, error, error. So, Jace, we talk a lot on this podcast about spiritual forces at work against us. against our children as well. One of the ways we are able to share values with our kids are through our good friends at Brave Books,

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That's bravebooks.com slash unashamed. Code unashamed for 20% off. Yeah, when you get a, and I don't know what the forecast or what we got, but in our neighborhood, it just collected. I don't know if it's from the trees, but in my backyard, I had a, it was a foot of ice, a foot. Yeah. And it's still there.

And it's been above freezing three or four days since then. The ice is still there. I mean, that's how thick this ice was, and which is why most of the limbs fell. But I thought about another spiritual principle. You know, when John 15 was talking about pruning the branches, because most of the problem, there were some trees that fell over. But most of it was just all these limbs falling,

just the limbs would break. And I thought, you know, a year from now, we'll look up and say, boy, look at, Look how beautiful all this is, because you're talking about a pruning. Oh, it was a pruning. God's nature style. Yep. But I did, like you said, there's a huge difference up there.

But I will say this to the folks up north, because it never, we left here, you know, it was starting to get warm up a little bit. But I got up there. It never got out of the teens was the highest the whole time. And at night, it was zero and below zero. And so all that snow is there. We're not making light of it. I was just saying.

No, I'm saying. You have an ice storm, you're not going anywhere. There's no driving. And the power's going to go off. I barely got out of here to get to the airport. And it just opened up the day we were flying out. The biggest phenomenon that I learned, and I had the only argument I had with my wife, is when she called me, she's like, we have water coming in our house.

I was like, well, I called, my buddy, same guy lives up. No, he's a plumber. He's like, we got a broken water line. And so I called her back. It's like it's not the water line. It's coming through the ceiling and the floor. You know, we came to, we figured out that this ice somehow makes these dams on your roof in the valleys. And it freezes in the gutters.

That's what happened to that. And so then the water somehow leaks out and. Backs up. Yeah. And it happened to our entire neighborhood. I mean, everybody's house got flooded to some capacity. because of that, which was a strange. Even Duckmane, where we're at right now.

I saw them. A lot of fun. They were out here doing the same thing. I didn't realize it, but we pulled a smart move. So we sent, like when it first started, I saw the water backing up underneath Anna's house, but the snow was blocking, the ice was blocking it. So I got the kids out there, say, everybody grab a shovel. And we dug a trench in the initial ice when it was still fresh, so it was pretty easy.

And it let that water out. So our house didn't flood, but, you know, we just kind of in the moment made a decision, but we'd have flooded, too, because it just backs in the door. Yeah. Well, that's why I came back here, because my wife, she was, you know, it was the stress of it all. The limbs crashing, sounding like it was 4th of July. I was just like, well, I've got to go be with my baby for a while. Well, right past you, of course, Jepp had his whole crew.

Now, all of his kids are having babies, so he's got three babies there, and his son-in-laws, which I think were good help for him and then his daughters. But the problem was, Jeff wasn't prepared. He wasn't prepared. Well, I guess we can throw him out of the butt. The most funny thing that happened is when I cleared the driveways and y'all's driveway and our main road. Well, Jeff, every time I looked up, he was pulling a little wagon.

It was a little black wagon, and he had his son-in-laws. And I was like, what are you doing, Jeff? Because I really wasn't sure of what he was doing. I thought, you need something way bigger than a wagon. Because I thought, is he helping me clear this? And then I realized, Jeff's cold. He's just trying to get some firewoods. He was following me around.

Yeah. And at first he had to come to my house. He said, do you have anything that would air up the tires in a wagon? I said, well, yeah, I got a. thing that worked. He said, well, how am I going to use it? I said, well, it's got a battery pack on it. It don't air your tires on. So he had to air the tires up in the wagon first. And then he's having to get wood. And I said, well, what do you have been burning? And he said, well, a tree fell on our outdoor furniture and broke it. And so we started there. So they're literally breaking things

out in the yard and burning it. And he walked in my house. It was the look on his face because it had been a couple of days. And he walked in, he looks. Of course, the lights are on. The TV's own. People are talking, they're drinking tea. And he looked at me and he said, you all are living. Living a good life. Yeah, I said, Jeff, let me just tell you something. This is your older brother, 14 years olden you.

This is what it looks like when you prepare. When you think ahead and you think. And it's funny because Willie and I had the conversation because he was out on his skid deal, doing a bunch of work. And I said, Willie, I'm really surprised you never got to generate. He said, well, they had buried. their lines a few years ago, and the substations right next to his house. Of course, he's made it through two hurricanes.

His pioneer went out, so I think he thought he was golden, but he wasn't prepared for this. No, everybody's right. And so he kept thinking he said, well, the actual power station went out. I know. And then he gave his generator to his in-laws, which is very nice. The problem was he's got that big huge house. He said, I'm freezing it out of that. Because you can't heat it.

It's too big. I said, well, you can come on over my little double-ed if you just want to get warm, little brother. Yeah. I was like Stark Vegas over there. I was lit up. Sadie had a, Sadian Christian, they had a generic on their house as well. And so they were housing all of their wing there.

So everybody, you know, it is interesting, Jay. We talk about compound living because you were out helping clear because you had a chainsaw. And then Jep's kids came up and were taking showers and washing clothes at our house. But it is to be together and have family close by. And then mom, you know, they'll check on her every day and other people did as well. kept going over. It is the way that people used to live, and we just kind of reverted back, like you said. Oh, that's the way I felt, just with the candles and having conversations and reading stories and building fires. You basically, I spent a couple days just making it through

the day as far as cutting firewood and helping people out. And I think that's the way people did before electricity, and it just becomes the new normal. Oh, yeah. And we, We did it. I mean, I had an interesting conversation last night with my wife because she saw my leg. And she was like, well, how did you do that? Because I'm not in all seriousness. After that day of chainsawing on that road, when, you get so hot, you're so cold, but then you don't realize, you've got too many clothes on.

Then you're sweating. I'm like, tell your parents not to come in here because I'm fixed to take a sink shower. and which I did with in cold water, it was rough. But I looked down and I was like, it looks like I've been in a bar fire. I mean, I had bruises and cuts. Because you can't even know it was happening.

I didn't even know it was happening. I looked at my leg and I realized that at some point, because when you're cutting and your feet are on ice, and, you know, cutting limbs is unpredictable, especially the size of some of them I was cutting. I realized that that chainsaw, because then I looked at my, pants that chainsaw

nick my leg and I have every where there's a chain link I had an open wound and I didn't even know I did it I never even remember when it happened and of course I wasn't going to tell her that because I continued to do the chainsaw but she asked me point blank

how'd you get that interesting wound on your leg I was like well I wasn't going to tell you but I got a little too close to that chainsaw But it kind of made me realize, well, that could have been a lot worse. Yeah. Because I was right at the brink of that and didn't even realize it, you know. Well, that's the other thing about it you take for granted because, like, nobody could get out.

And so I'm like watching the kids and stuff. And of course, stuff's falling outside. Well, they want to go play in the snow. You know, like, no, we can't go play. It's dangerous. Well, because the limbs are falling. And so then we finally found some clear areas they could go outside. But I was watching this little toddler,

and he a couple of times fell and hit his head and I just thought, all it takes is one thing here. And we got a bad situation because you just can't run down to the clinic like you normally could. You know, you had to deal with even stuff like that. I kid you not, Missy said, because, you know, the garbage has become a problem here,

if you'll notice on the sides of the roads and on people's hoods because they're not running. I already had two full cans. My entire bed of my truck was solid. played garbage because, you know, we were doing four bags of trash today. So, Missy said, what, they're not going to be able to pick that garbage up because I looked out there, I mean, there's a limb as big around as me.

I was like, well, one of those garbage cans was not going to make it. But so I said, well, I'll go cut it up. So I cut the tree off of it and all that, got it all straight. Go back to the house, and we're sitting there talking, boom, I look, one twice as big hit right where I just was. And just decimated the garbage cans. Flattened it. And she said, well, I guess it'd have been better if you had awaited.

And you could get both of them. I was like, baby, realize I could have died. If I would have done this about 30 seconds later, I wouldn't be here. And she's like, yeah, you're right. Well, it's been cold. We're certainly in the wintertime. And one of the favorite gifts at my house was anything from cozy earth. but especially the bubble cuddle blanket, right, Jay's?

I got one for my wife, and she has been under it the entire winter. I slept with mine last night at your house, Al, and I was there, your granddaughter had snagged it, but we wanted to get a picture of me under it. I think we may have that picture, but I took it from her and it did not go well. She was not happy. Well, it's a big fight in my place as to who gets it first, And I guess I'm going to have to buy a couple of more. Zach, we also had the pajama zone as well.

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That's cozyearth.com code Unashamed Bogo. Celebrate everyday love with comfort that makes the little moments count. So he's absorbed the Robertson mentality there, obviously. But, you know, when I went out to Phil's house, I saw them trees, saw a snap and coming down. And I was, and I was underneath a bunch of them. And I was like, and this phrase came to mind, widow makers. These are widow makers. And I immediately got up into the road because I was like, I'm going to get hit by one of these things.

And we know a couple people that got really injured. There was, well, you mentioned the young boy. You mentioned him already in the podcast. And then I don't know what's going on with him. We should pray for him. And then also somebody else I read on Facebook that one of the canopies of the gas station collapsed on top of him. So there was something. That was our old friend, Steve.

He was, yeah, it fell on him and broke his back. And he was in intensive care. He's doing better. But yeah, it's very dangerous. Some three boys drowned over in Texas. got out on a, you know, frozen water and got underneath it. So it's a,

and I know some folks have lost life in Tennessee as well. So it was, you know, once you kind of get through something, you look kind of back and you see that it's, you know, those families' lives will never be the same. Oh, man. For, you know, for sure. Well, it reminds you that you're imperishable. And how quickly things change, right?

I mean, like, you can be like, in fact, Maddie was like, you know, she's like sending a text out, So we were recording tomorrow? Like, Maddie, we're in no condition. I was like, I can't get out of my driveway. I can't get out my driveway. Jason is trying to cut his way out. It was like, it was bad.

It is. But it does, you know, it reminds us that we're perishable, but we're in Jesus. We're in this life and fellowship. And this is just part of it. Yeah. And you have no control ultimately. And you kind of see those meltdowns in people who are kind of control freaks and think they can control the narrative.

When things like this happen, it just tends to escalate and you feel really small. Yeah. And your world gets small. I mean, there's no internet, there's no TV. You're just with who you're with. And you have a decision whether you can complain or be scared or stressed out or be confident that your hope is in a greater power. and you just try to do what he would do. And I think, you know, my family did a lot of good things for a lot of good people.

And I feel pretty good about it. I mean, because like I say, it always can be worse. Yeah. But it's a good reminder. It's a reset. Well, and I like what you were saying with the K thing, kind of in a humorous way, but about being prepared spiritually, internally, you know, and even in moments like these, because you never know.

I mean, look, we've always said that apocalyptic moments are going to happen. I mean, we just kind of experienced it for a week. But, I mean, if something happens to the whole setup, you've got to be, what are you going to do? You know, so not only just on the physical side, but spiritually, I mean, are you prepared? And that's a big part of it. We had planned this week five and a half years ago. because we live in our little mini compound within the bigger compound, and we thought, okay, we got, this house has, you know, gas so you can, you know, do this.

My house had the generag. This house has this. And we thought if something happens, we can survive. You know, we can do this together. And then it came to fruition. And, you know, our lives were hampered, but not near as bad as other people were, even in the neighborhood. So thinking ahead makes a huge difference. It starts with thinking ahead to your eternal life.

And Zach, you brought up the jelly roll thing. I think that's moments like that where you can remind people that Jesus is real. And all this stuff we talk about on this podcast is real. I mean, that's where you have to start. And then whether you survive something or not, of course you win because, you know, the resurrection. It's always there. I mean, he's in a room speaking to people who have achieved a great deal. deal of success in life and they've they've accomplished you know kind of ascended to the top of the

mountain and you think you can build that right and you look at what you've built and sometimes I look at the things I've built and I'm like I did pretty well you know I've done a great job here and then a storm comes and you look at your entire neighborhood and it's like decimated and it's like all those trees are down like trees that's been there for 200 years or like snapped into and you're like wait it took so long to cultivate. to build this thing and we had it all set it was all right we had all the all the things and then in our best efforts you know it's just like it just wasn't enough and i think that that's the light that kind of shines through a lot of this is is that realization that even in your best efforts in your

best preparation literally one storm can come in and hold more power that you can't do anything about and you can be it completely at the mercy of mother nature um and And I think that God gave us that general revelation as a way of drawing us back into submission with him. So that's the irony of jelly roll. Jesus is the answer. He's got to be the answer. If the answer is our own accomplishment and our own abilities, then the problem is nobody in that room or any room for that matter can stop a storm. Nobody.

Nobody can stand against that power. And so I hope that I say nobody, except for the one who calmed the storm, the one that said, Peace, be still. his name was Jesus, and that's why Jesus is the ultimate answer. When I was in Illinois, and I met a lot of podcast listeners were there, and one man named Jeremy, I would look back to find his email. He sent me an email, and he was just in tears. We talked a couple of times.

He came in with his family, and I met him first, and then we talked a little bit after the event. And just about the podcast and our family and had really helped him through some difficult, cult moments and led him to Christ. He talked about it. He said, I never would have found Christ without y'all. He was just so appreciative, and it was kind of like what we were just describing Zach. And it is humbly. And I told him, the last thing I told him, we had prayer. His wife has cancer, and she's battling that. But we had prayer, but I told him, I said, look, we're very

humbled and honored that we get to do this, and we get to guide you through the Bible, because he was just talking about how much it had meant to him, just studying John last year. And it just had led him to that place. So we realized that, and that's part of what this is. This is spiritual preparedness. This is exactly, this is rushing in after storms and during storms in people's lives every single day. Well, our position in Christ has this heaven and earth concept overlapping in Jesus.

But you see, you know, the physical earth, and it's wasting away as far as our involvement in it and things happen and reminds us that we're perishable. It made me think of Romans 1 where it says, you know, the people who didn't thank God, but they worshipped and served created things rather than the creator. I mean, if you put all your hope and created things on the earth, you're going to be disappointed at some point. And you combine that with 2nd Corinthians 4 when he was saying, though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day for our light momentary troubles are achieving for us

an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. So we fix our eyes not on what is seen but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary but what is unseen is eternal. And I think it's a really good balance to put this stuff in perspective because it makes you appreciate what you have.

And there's a God and you're not him. I like it. I'm going to close in a prayer. Maddie sent me attacks said today's groundhog day then the groundhog saw his shadow predicting six more weeks of winter so there we go didn't it feel like groundhog day uh the movie yeah what was the name of that movie wasn't yeah yeah it's called groundhog day because missy actually said that at day eight we shot up living early and i was there and she's like well i think i'm gonna take a mental health

day because this groundhog day has provided some stress and she went and got her a shower and to one of her friends house i was like babe you earned it all right let me out for up a prayer father we just want to come to you and uh thank you for getting us through the storm um unscathed and just some damaged stuff but nothing that we can do without some have had much more trouble in that i know some people have been injured some people have lost their lives and so i pray a blessing on all those families, those that are struggling to regain health. I pray a blessing on them. Just be with everyone that was in the storm's path and bless their families.

And Father, we are grateful that we have your son, Jesus, to prepare us for eternity. Thank you in his name. Amen. See you next time. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple Podcast. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube and be sure. to click the little bell and choose all notifications to watch every episode.