Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 127 | Jesus vs. the Cancel Mob and Phil Robertson's Answer to Cancel Culture

Episode Date: August 12, 2020

Phil, Jase, and Al are fed up with cancel culture, and they're laying it down: The cancel mob is the exact opposite of Jesus. Jase pinpoints the problem with cancel culture, Al urges mass forgiveness,... and Phil has the perfect answer to the cancel mob. Jase also points out the current panic over our Founding Fathers' beliefs about Jesus. But first, Phil talks about the day he quit climbing trees, Jase reveals Jep's secret to awesome crab legs, Phil shares his hidden talent for matchmaking, and the guys say goodbye to the Unashamed Command Center. Get Jesus Politics by Phil Robertson, available now: https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Politics-Back-Soul-America/dp/1400210062/ - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? So this is interesting. Today is a milestone podcast. Do you know why it's a milestone, Jess? You know what the momentous, if I had a drum roll, I could do it? I thought, y'all, you made a big deal out of the 100th, which I didn't think was a big deal. But there's something about the 100th episode and anything you do that's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:00:34 I didn't make it. Well, I know. It's just a number. But to other people, it means something. It's like half the time, I don't know how old I am. It's because it's not important. You're half a hundred. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:46 You constantly remind me how old. I'd rather just forget about that. Well, Dad says you're getting close to 50. I'm like, no. No, what it is. You hit 50. I climbed trees until I was 55. At 55, I said, no, I'm not climbing any more trees.
Starting point is 00:01:01 So you remember the day you stopped? You said, no. Red and I were down the woods You were 50 For some reason We had to get up in the tree Deer stand or whatever And normally I was just up
Starting point is 00:01:11 Like a monkey I'd gone up Well you've got feet You know you're right at 55 I walked out there And I looked up that big tree And I looked at it I said Red
Starting point is 00:01:18 Come over here He walked up there You know Your feet look like a monkey Because I got the knobs on the Yeah Oh yeah I said I just made a decision
Starting point is 00:01:24 He said what's that I said This is the day I stopped climbing trees I just I'm too old You know what's disturbing about this Is I just realized
Starting point is 00:01:33 I'm still climbing trees. You're going to come to you. Well, you're 50. Five more years. You'll say, no. Oh, you were 55. You were my age. 55.
Starting point is 00:01:44 See, but it's not always the same for everybody, dad, because I quit climbing trees like at 25. Now, from there, there's been a lot of different events, you know, that, no, no, no. So now I've got old Dan down there. If it's a giant beaver down, he's on it. Yeah. If it's a gigantic one. It's track hole.
Starting point is 00:02:05 It's not the rake. You got to bring red in. The rake. We didn't have a track. Is that when Jimmy Red and Jay Stone come in? Jimmy Red and Jay Stone, they're taking up the slack. They were out there this morning at daylight moving around. I'll go down now, you know, because right now we're planting duck food.
Starting point is 00:02:21 The water's just left. A lot of mud. A lot of stomping in the mud. So I noticed that Stone, too, now he's part of his guard when he comes down here. He's got his, you know, army looking uniform on. And then he's got that pistol strapped right on that side with a big old. Stone was, we converted him from the duck blind. Jace brought him on board.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And, uh, but Stone has been a very valuable, uh, entity added to the Robertson clan. He married my granddaughter, your daughter. Married well, my daughter. Yep. So he married up, no doubt about it. And she, she's funny because she's, you know, she's kind of quiet and all that, but she's a Robertson through and through too and just watching their interaction. because we all live close by, so it's really interesting.
Starting point is 00:03:05 You know, it's just starting. You come back yesterday, he said, I got one coon and two cotton mouths with my pistol over in the woods, you know. I said, a coon and a cotton mouth, two cotton boughs and one lick. I said, stone, I said, you're my kind of man, son. Well, maybe he's decided to aim instead of just spraying bullets. We talked about that. Well, remind me when he, next time he invites me for barbecue, I believe I'll pass. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:29 But the raccoon, I draw a line there and the raccoon's under it. You've got to remove the musk glands or their little musky. Here's what you're forgetting. Everybody always has a recipe for everything. But, you know, some things I just pass on. But, you know, what's disturbing about this is I was there the day it was almost like a business meeting and a transaction. You know, Jay is, or Stone, as Phil's calling him, was in the duck line. and Phil said, you know, Stone, my granddaughter, Anna, for whatever reason, nobody's made their move.
Starting point is 00:04:08 So if I were you, I would make the move. And I thought, she was 18 at the time. I was like, shows you how our lives are. I watched him for about three months. It wasn't like, but it wasn't like he was showing interest. He was just duck hunting. Phil says, nobody's made. Well, I don't.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I think there was any, anything there. I think there was already a little talk. No, Phil was like, make your move. Literally, like, a couple weeks later, they were dating. And I thought, did I just, did we just go hunting and somebody say, go for it? Okay. And then the next day, you know, they're married. There were things you didn't know, Judge.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I said, I vetted you. I said, however, my son, Al, is her father. I tell him it's going to help you if you're. interested in this to let him know my son that I vetted you. I said, make sure you get that in there. I said, because if you don't, you're out. But you got to remember how the chain of communication works in this family. What do you say to you? You've forgotten the chain of communication. So mom is always talking to Nan and a bunch of other people constantly. And so she gets information and then gives it to dad. So he wouldn't know things that are going on outside of his realm.
Starting point is 00:05:24 So mom is the one that told dad. She said, give him the speech. She gave the speech. He moved on it. He moved on it because she's like, I think Nan and likes Jay. We call her Nan. Likes Jay. And so then she tells that to Dad. So Dad's like, oh, well, then I'm going to say, you know, go for it because, you know, I vetted you.
Starting point is 00:05:43 So then he comes to me. He was pretty nervous with me, you know, because then it's the dad. And he didn't know me as well as he knew y'all early on. But I always liked him because, I mean, he served our country. He went to Afghanistan. He was right at the end of his, you know, deal there. and been like a month left and then 9-11 hit. So he winds up going to Afghanistan for a year.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And I can remember him coming down at church because he started coming to Westphrey Road with us. And us having prayer over him. And I never forget that day his whole family came because they go to another church. But they all came that day because they knew we were going to pray for him because he was leaving the next week. Which, you know, Afghanistan, especially early on, it was pretty wild over there. Yeah, he was like one of the first one time. One of the first ones because he's part of the, he drives heavy equipment. So they were building the, you know, runways, and they were gearing up for what would be this long war.
Starting point is 00:06:32 We've been fighting over there. But what impressed me was his grandpa came, his dad's dad, who served in World War II. And, you know, he was one of them classic greatest generation guys. You know, you just look at you. Kind of had a sideway. That's where Jay gets that look he's got from. But that day I saw him tear up, you know, in those prayers because I thought about it. his grandpa remembers what it was like to be young like that,
Starting point is 00:06:59 taken off over there to defend the country. So I don't know. It was just a moment for me. So I always liked Jay from even those moments, you know, because he had become a brother. So what was his exact line? What about dating your daughter? Well, he said, you know, he kind of hem hailed around and, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:16 and I just let him swing. I didn't even try to, normally I'll try to, like, help people. Dating your daughter, you got him with a cold stare. I was just listening. I was like, all right, what's he coming up with? Because he's a little bit older than Anna. And he finally said, you know, I just wanted to make sure it was okay with you. You know, we started going on.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Of course, I knew I already knew. He was living with John and Paula. So I knew there had been like the secret, like, you know, somebody like somebody. Even though you're older, it doesn't matter. You know, you still got the same thing. So I knew Nan, because I kept looking around, where's Nan? She's up at John and Paula. Man, she's staying up there a lot.
Starting point is 00:07:49 What's going on with that? And I said, I don't know. She's always up there talking to Jay. Of course, see, I knew. So, you know, you know how this. worst. But I liked it because it was old school dating. They were always around adults. It wasn't off by yourself. You know, they were John and Paula or at our house. So Jay had him a perfect little bachelor set up. He's got him a little trailer down on Caney Lake. And he was set up. He loves
Starting point is 00:08:12 to fish and he had all this going on. So then when he and Anna got married about just, I don't know, six or eight months after they started dating. So he had the perfect situation. They were just going to go down there and live on the lake, you know, he'd be able to fish and he'd drive back to work. Happily ever after. But the problem is he didn't realize that Nan wasn't going to live on a lake 45 minutes away from everything else. So that lasted one week.
Starting point is 00:08:37 And then they show up at the house. And Jay's like, well, I guess I'm going to sell them a place. This is one week. And I was like, sell it. Why? It was like, Anna doesn't want to live there. I mean, you know, they only have been married a little while. And I said, well, what do you want to do?
Starting point is 00:08:52 And he said, well, I don't know. We're going to find a place to live in town. So I said, well, I tell you what, why don't y'all build a house? We've got four acres. Why don't you all build a house back here on our property? I'll give you that back acre and y'all build a house on it. So that's what that is. So they moved in with us and then we built a house.
Starting point is 00:09:09 And so we've been next door to each other now for 16 years ever since. And it worked. A lot of people. It wouldn't work for everybody. It works for us. I mean, but Jay, I mean. I mean, he's a solid addition. Well, he's turned into a really good cook,
Starting point is 00:09:25 and that's helped everybody, the whole neighborhood. You know what? Good worker, hard work. Great cooking brings people together. I think that's a key component, you know, of our family. It's always been. At almost now, to enter the Robertson clan, you have to know how to cook. You need to.
Starting point is 00:09:42 You know, I see people come up, go away, you know, a little girl there. Ken folks, you know, my grandchildren, I can't remember the name. I'm looking at them. I said, can you cook? That's embarrassing. They said, can I cook? I said, can you cook? Well, I'm working on it.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I said, well, just checking. Well, I went to Austin and visited a gym. And, you know, I always have some anxiety, especially when I'm in a big city and just what we're going to do and what we're going to eat. Because I was like, you know. We don't really do a lot of restaurants. There's no telling, you know, what's going on. And I had left. I really hadn't eaten lunch.
Starting point is 00:10:16 So I thought, what are we going to eat? I hate to ask because I don't want to say, no, I'm not eating that. And so I finally just couldn't help it because I thought, what are y'all, what do you got to eat around? So you're staying with Jay, Jeff does, okay. I'm staying with him for a couple days. And so, Jeff said, yeah, I'm cooking tonight. I was like, oh, really?
Starting point is 00:10:40 What you got going? He said, snow crabs. And I thought, ooh, well, this sounds pretty good. I'm going to tell you, he laid that out. Jeff's a good cook. I was shocked. Because inside you were thinking when he said that, you were thinking, can you cook? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I don't know what I was thinking. He did run a food truck. But you know what? It made the whole trip just because, I mean, and it was a feast. And I thought, here, let me pay for that. Whatever you pay for that? Because I was thinking next time out here, I want to do this again. You were motivating him.
Starting point is 00:11:18 This was awesome. Well done, my brother. But that's helped me with Jay because he's cooked for many a thing I've had in my house. Did he turn down the money or did he take it? Oh, did he take it? Jeff don't turn down money. I'll just check it right now. So that was my deal, Jay.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Jay said, I'll buy it if you'll cook it. And so I told Jay just this last week, I was like, when does Cy coming back over? Because he'd been coming over like every week. But I had a couple of things I need to talk to Saib about. He said, well, when do you want him over? I said, well, I mean, it's not like I have to have him. I'm just wondering when he's coming back. He said, oh, if I call him and say we're cooking, he's here today.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Yeah. So, size just waiting on the call to come in, Jay cooks some ribs or steak. You know, so I said, well, I'll buy it if you'll cook it. Well, Jeff had an interesting point if you ever thought about this. Because when I ate the snow crab, it was better than what I've usually eaten. Like at a restaurant, I've never cooked it myself. And he said, I learned that people mess up when they boil lobster or crabs. Because when you all...
Starting point is 00:12:23 You got to steam it, right? Well, he cooked in the oven. Really? He did for like 10 or 12 minutes. Okay. And now he put a bunch of seasoning on it. Yep. And now he had little cups of butter.
Starting point is 00:12:35 I mean, because I said, boy, this is a nice way to eat butter. You know, because that butter, I don't know what he had in that. but it was better than just butter. That's a drama. But the proof is in what I ate. I just thought I'd throw that out there because evidently he stumbled up on something. So look, what's funny is when I got back, because we got one little seafood place, you know, we're a little too far north for the stuff off the boat.
Starting point is 00:13:00 But we do have one seafood place. He gets it fresh. And we get shrimp there. But I went in there and I said, you'll got any snow crabs? And I look, of course, they were proud of it. Oh, yeah. But I had just, I was coming off that. I said, I have to do that again immediately just to see if I can pull it off.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Got the recipe on my phone, so I'm good to go. So you hadn't tried it yet. But one of the funny things I want to say about Jay, I know we got to move on. But, you know, Jay's always kind of, I mean, I'll just throw this out. We all have struggles and I'm not picking on him. But one of his problems was anger management. And I say that in just like when we would go play play. golf and he was part of the you know once he got part of the family you're part of the golf
Starting point is 00:13:45 and he's a decent government oh he's more than decent yeah he's good but i noticed that when things didn't go his way which happens a lot in golf he was prone to golf tirades i mean throwing clubs hitting them in the ground so i thought breaking club i've got to confront him about this and uh and so i did and it didn't go well at first He was like, what are you talking about? I'm just venting my frustrations. I mean, I'm not, because he was saying, I'm not hurting anybody, you know. I'm just tearing up my own stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:20 I'm like, number one, you're not good enough to get mad. Let's just get that. Which I figured that out for me a long time. We're playing for $2. You know, we're playing a $2 NASDAO. He's like, what's not about that? I just, I'm not reaching my potential. I said, we're putting a round ball in a whole.
Starting point is 00:14:41 There is no potential. It's supposed to be fun. We're not throwing club. I mean, I just thought, you know, welcome to the family. We're not throwing clubs. You're off the list. And he's like, what are you saying? I was like, you're not allowed to play if you keep throwing clubs.
Starting point is 00:14:59 It's embarrassing. I'm like, we're playing golf here. It's okay to get mad. But once the club goes flying, you know, you've seen him do it. And so it was a slow process. and I thought he was getting better at it, and then all of a sudden, he'd go off again. But once I had already broken the ice,
Starting point is 00:15:19 well, then he told me this crazy story about when he's in the military about, you know, he was right on the ground from day one, and when he was over there, they didn't even have bathrooms that were halfway civilized. He said, you know, there was a board, which he broke off into this story. I'm like, where are we going with this?
Starting point is 00:15:37 But he's like, I'm knee to knee with all the other. the military guys, you know, when they want to go to the bathroom on a, on a board. And he's like, you know, one day a fly came and lit on my leg. And he said, so I just got up, walked out, and they had just put the first port of John there. And he said, I just took out all my frustration on that port of John. He said, I literally beat it to a pup. And I, and I just took out all my frustration on that port-a-john. He said, I literally beat it to a pup.
Starting point is 00:16:10 And I said, why are you telling me this? He said, you know, once my superiors saw what I did, they called him in. He said, you will now be the one that gets rid of all of the material that's going into the pot in a 55-gallon drum by burning it. Yeah, he learned a lesson. Well, right. He said, so now I'm out there, you know, with a lot. boat paddle stirring it stirring it as I burning it and I said so well that I want you to think about I'm not I don't know how I can relate that and so what he did was he just quit playing
Starting point is 00:16:47 golf he just quit he just said what I think I'm going to quit I was like good talk so you get down to John 10 hang on dad hang on dad let's take a break now so we got left hanging this is a momentous podcast we just ventured from where we started. And you don't know why. It's number 127. Does that ring a bell? No.
Starting point is 00:17:14 This is the last podcast that we are recording here in our original podcast, Unashamed Command Center. Really? It's the last one. Well, how would I have no idea. See? Where are we moving? We are moving to a new Unashamed Command Center,
Starting point is 00:17:32 which is actually right on our hunting property. We're building the studio as we see. speak, then the reason why I wanted our audience to know because it's going to look different the next time we record is because where we are, we're in a place that we call it the lodge. Willie and Corey originally bought this place. Or maybe Jeff and Jessica did. I think they did for rented it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:54 So they rented it. They lived here. So a lot of people in the family have lived here in this spot. And we've described it before as you see out the window. This is the very beginning of mom and dad's property. So you go down that hill. So it means a lot to us because we kind of get to look down where we grew up. But Phyllis and Tony will be moving here.
Starting point is 00:18:14 And they're going to be, we're actually in their bedroom back here in the back of the house. So they're going to be moving here. We're excited about that. You guys heard their story first on the podcast, which is awesome. And we just want to update the story that they're going to be living here. So we're moving our podcast command center about probably a mile from here. No, so we're hunting. We're going to the hunting camp.
Starting point is 00:18:35 We're going to the hunting camp. We call it the lair, which is our place where we stage, and that's where we're building. Keep all our equipment. So we went from the command center to the layer. To the lair. So that'll be our new spot, the unashamed lair, which I've always wanted like a lair. This is, this has gotten weird. Momentous.
Starting point is 00:18:54 So the big move is about a mile. It's about a mile. Okay. That's an acrope. So just, but I wanted it our audience to know. But it has a feel about it because that's where all our decards are stored, our viewers. vehicles, the hard-by-sides, the Yamaha's, the pumps, you know. I guess, Connor, we had to get you to shoot some of the shots that's over there, right.
Starting point is 00:19:15 We have lockers with our names on them. It's pretty impressive. What we ought to do is we get there is just let them take a pan shot around. That's what I'm saying. So the audience can say that's where y'all, that's your staging area before daylight, five o'clock in the morning. We're going here there. Everybody meets there, some are going deer hunting, so I'm going duck.
Starting point is 00:19:32 It's how red, it's a good look at the redneck. world. It's not a good look. It's a look. Lower your expectations, viewers. It looks like some kind of storm hit. A little rough for the city dwellers. There's a lot of critters there.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Yeah, you've got to watch the black widows. We've had a rat problem. The dogs are there. That's where they're maintained and kept. Dan goes over and runs the dogs. Dan lives next door. Our retrievers, we got these dogs, you know, boom, they go retrieve for bringing our ducks back to us. It's a good way to roll.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Yeah. Well, that's where we're going to be. So next time we'll introduce you to the lair to our new spot. So dad's ready to get to John 10. I just want to make one point on the last verse in John 10, John chapter 9 as we leave it. If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin. But now that you claim you can see your guilt remains. And I just wrote this down for the beginning of chapter 10 to pardon.
Starting point is 00:20:47 We don't realize how powerful that is. One of the things, when you pardon someone, you remove the guilt. You counsel the penalty for an offense or crime. you're forgiven, you're justified to release a person from further punishment for a crime. So when you look at what Jesus did and one fell swoop, look, and amazingly, took about, by my count, 5,300 years from creation that he did, he created it, 5,000. He's coming, the Old Testament says, in three days, solved your sin problem and your grave problem. In three days?
Starting point is 00:21:42 I mean, just think about how that all came to fruition aisle. I just thought I'd mention this. Blessed is the man or woman whose sins are forgiven, whose transgressions are covered, whose sin the Lord will never count against them. we have peace of mind while we're here and immortality to boot. And that's the reason we're sitting here telling others about it because we're simply saying, come on America, come on, come on. Well, I think he was addressing.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Join us. The pride, you know, pride is what really keeps us from pursuing. It's still here. When you said that word, Dad, that you said, what would you say about cancel that you added in there? To release a person from further punishment for a crime. To cancel the penalty for an offense, this is Webster Dictionary. So it made me think about it about another passage that uses that word. And it's, it's Colossians 2 is one of Jason's favorite, 13, when you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, your sinful nature.
Starting point is 00:22:53 God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins having canceled the written code. That's it. with his regulations that was against us stood opposed to us. He took it away, nailing it to the cross. Because remember, Alice, he canceled the penalty, which was death. I mean, think about it, how powerful sin is you sin, you die spiritually. You're caught off from God, separated from God.
Starting point is 00:23:20 What made that interesting when you said that is that currently today, right now, there's this whole, I don't know what you'd call it, I guess, process that's going on. a cancel culture. Yeah. So someone, you know. I heard somebody say that. What exactly is what is the point? That's one I wanted to describe it.
Starting point is 00:23:37 So it's exactly the opposite of what I just read and what you used to say. That is correct. So here's what the cancel culture does. Somebody tweeted something, wrote an article, said something 10 years ago, 15 years ago, 50 years ago. Some of the founding fathers. Founding fathers, sin. They can't get up. So the cancel culture is that if you've ever said anything,
Starting point is 00:24:00 that is now deemed as wrong. If you've ever sinned, Al, if you've ever sin, then you're canceled. Like, we don't want to ever hear from you again. Terry statute down, he made some mistakes. So everyone's counseled, but babies? Well, that's where we're headed. But who came up with it? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:17 It just started as just a social media of Twitter mob, mostly. That was their deal. But here's the results of it. What's happened? So if somebody says something somewhere, someone back, they work for this company, and then they get you fire. canceled because you said something that now sounds to them like a racist or whatever. I mean, people are just scared, not even saying anything.
Starting point is 00:24:39 The ones who dreamed up the council culture without them realizing it, the same charge they're putting on all the human beings who live before them, start with the founders of this country, and start there. You say, if you ever made a mistake, you're out, as if the council culture crowd doesn't realize, what about their sins? Yeah, well, I was going to say, when did the moral purity start with this career?
Starting point is 00:25:03 Well, but I think it's just like the verse you read, they don't, they're not acknowledging that because they claim they can see. That's right. Hang on. That's why I read that. Hang on. Let's take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:25:17 No, that's what struck me about it is that what's going on in our culture, right at this moment, is by these people who don't even understand what we're talking about, is the exact opposite of what Jesus did. The only one that can counsel you is the one that can pardon you.
Starting point is 00:25:35 He wants to pardon you for your sins, but if you'll let him. But if not, you've been canceled. You know, it's interesting. Just like the, oh, how many times do we forgive them, Lord, seven? And he said, 70 times seven. You know, it's interesting. I was doing my research on this because I'm sharing Sunday about, so you're a king.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Yeah. You know, when Pilate asked Jesus that and what that means. But what came up was a slogan that was part of our American culture from our founding fathers where they said, we are under no king besides king Jesus. And that happened during the Revolutionary War. So I started researching that. You know, England, they were basically saying they were invaded, and Americans came up with that slogan. and I thought, who said that, and I want to find that out.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Well, what was crazy is there are thousands, thousands of stories or arguments about who said that when and where, because all of these people, I guess, with the group, you're talking about the council culture, are trying to counsel all our founding fathers. So basically, most of the articles, I just started thumbing through them, were like, you know, they were standing through. Reverend's house, but really that was a lie. They weren't even there because he's the one that said it. This Reverend Jonas, I can't remember the names, but he basically said there is no king besides King Jesus, and then that caught on. But they were attacking that because they were
Starting point is 00:27:17 like, listing all, some of the articles I read would have all the founding fathers. And they were like, see, they didn't even believe right on Jesus, which what was crazy to me, here are people that don't believe in Jesus, looking at the theological views of the Founding Father saying, well, they couldn't have said that because they didn't even believe the facts about Jesus. Like, this guy one time quoted, oh, there's a God, but, you know, Jesus was just a prophet. Or, you know, they had all these different quotes. And I thought that they're so worried about a statement like that, that literally, what was that, 1770, whatever, 1776. they're going back that far trying to challenge that happening because they, you're talking about pride, do not want to say, well, Jesus is actually king.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Because if he is, I might change my life. Actually, the original founders came up there at Jamestown and Plymouth Rock. And someone says with the statues there and all, they'll probably be wanting to tear them up for it's over. but the whole outline of the kingdom of God, Al, what's the elder up there at Fras Ferry Road? He saw it. Dash's buddy, Dash's buddy up there. Abel's, Robert Abel. Robert said, when I went in there on that Plymouth Rock, and you walk out there, and they've got their history right there, the church was there.
Starting point is 00:28:51 They were referring to it as the kingdom of God. what you have to do, put your faith in there. The gospel was right there in the middle of it. That little group that sailed over from Europe who landed there and it was a rough go. But the ones that started that, they have all the writings right now. You can go walk around and look. And Robert told me, he said, Phil, when I went there and saw that, they were called the Puritans.
Starting point is 00:29:21 He said, it was us. It was the kingdom of God. It was us. The foundation was being laid right there from the very beginning, started right there with that little group of people. And half of them died. I mean, it was rough. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:37 But it just took off from there. The United States of America, Patrick Henney had it right. He said the United States was founded on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Yeah, I read that in that article. His death and burial of resurrection. That's what the country's found. But you know what was disturbing? Now they're trying to cancel that.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I ran across one article who were from Christians who said they didn't support the slogan either. And I thought, now here we got Christians saying they don't support that there's no king besides King Jesus. I thought this should be interesting. They better support it. No, so I read it. So here was the logic. They said, well, the reason that that was not good for our founding fathers to do. They were giving credit that the founding fathers believed it and that the slogan was real and that happened.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I think it's pretty evident since there's so much smoke about it that that happened because there are literally thousands of articles about it. Oh, yeah. Because people don't like that that foundation is where our religious freedom in this country was built on, which is why we have the First Amendment. And they were also having a reaction to old King George. Well, right. The Constitution was written for a religious and moral people. it is holy and adequate for any other. Well, now 244 years later, you say, we have a group of people and the Constitution is in their way.
Starting point is 00:31:05 It's in the way because they're not religious and they're not a moral group. You say they get rid of it, get rid of it. It doesn't apply to them because it was written if you were godly and you were a moral group. You say you change that dynamic, and it took 244 years, and the Supreme Court forgot that they were not the supreme being. They said, kill your children, practice perversion, blah, blah, blah, all the way down the line. You say, we've forgotten what brought us, the God of creation. And therefore, there's hell to pay. I know we're not going back that far, but the fact that a group of men at one point put in God we trust on every coin and dollar,
Starting point is 00:31:49 told you pretty much their view of our history and how we got here. But what I was going to say by the... Psalms 9-81. That's where they got that, by the way. But what I was going to say is this Christian woman who wrote this article said, well, because Jesus, and she quoted John 18, where when right before Pilate said, so you're a king. Well, what led to him say that is because Jesus said, because he said, are you king of the Jews? And he said, well, my kingdom is not, is from another. Of this world.
Starting point is 00:32:21 It's not of this world. So her point was, well, you can't say there's no king but king Jesus because King Jesus, he's not king of this world. And they quoted John 1836. He's the kingdom of a heavenly world. And it's a futuristic thing. So it couldn't be that. And so then I virtually raised my hand and said, well, what are we doing here?
Starting point is 00:32:44 Yeah. because, you know, a proper study of the kingdom, which we've done in previous podcasts, I don't know if it was in the title, you can go listen to it, that we believe that we are a part of the heavenly kingdom on earth. We represent that. If the Spirit of Christ is in us, the mystery of Godliness is that Christ is in us, we represent because of God's grace and His Holy Spirit, the actual indestructible kingdom. of heaven on earth.
Starting point is 00:33:17 He has qualified you to the Colossians to share. Hang on. Just give it one second. And then read it on them. Hang on, hang on. Take a break. So the Apostle Paul, writing to the Colossians, starts out with the Gospel of God's grace and all its truth.
Starting point is 00:33:39 He gets down to the bottom about verse 12, chapter 1. Giving thanks to the Father, he's qualified you because you've put your faith in Jesus. you responded, to share in the inheritance of the saints in the kingdom of light. He's rescued us from the dominion of darkness. It's already happened. And he's brought us already happened to the Colossians into the kingdom of the son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. So if the Colossians had been brought into the kingdom of God,
Starting point is 00:34:16 how could you say the kingdom of God had not been brought to them. You see what I'm saying how? I just think what bothers me is that most religious people that I run up on have this view. You know, they're even, just step back and say, no, wait a minute, you don't like the phrase that there is no king but king Jesus. If you don't like that, there's something wrong with your theology. The kingdom of the son he loves. you say, hmm, it's too clear. I like the one in Hebrews 12 that describes what the kingdom is.
Starting point is 00:34:53 It gives you a whole description. And then in verse 28, it says, therefore, since we are receiving present tense in Hebrews, which is 2,000 years ago, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful and so worship God acceptably with reverence and with all. Book of Acts, the Apostle Paul, before he died, from morning till evening, this is Acts 28, about verse 25 or so. From morning to evening, the Apostle Paul explained and declared to them the kingdom of God. You turned one page, the last thing it says about the Apostle Paul before he bid it, boldly and without hindrance.
Starting point is 00:35:38 He preached the kingdom of God and taught about the Lord Jesus Christ. you say, I've given you two out of the book of Acts, but it's throughout the book of Acts. I've been preaching the kingdom. I'm telling you, Jesus died for you, was buried and raised from the dead. He's the king of the kingdom. It's a royal priesthood. You better get out in here, and they baptize them in the creek right on the spot, whether it's a Philippian jailer, Lydia down on the river, the eunuch.
Starting point is 00:36:03 So you read all these texts, and you say, good night. Well, now there's a concerted effort among many and our population. to rid the earth of not only the kingdom of us too, Jase, before it's over. Yeah. The backlash has started, and we're going to fix to find out on this next election, who America believes in. Jesus the king or someone else. What's amazing is that the council culture, I guess,
Starting point is 00:36:33 now that I'm speaking freely on it, I didn't really understand it. But it comes back to the fundamental argument against Christianity. Christianity because they always attack the fact that even as a Christian, you're flawed. But that's their one point that they have. But it's true. I mean, if you look at an umbrella, because I'm, what I do. Are they saying everyone's flawed but them?
Starting point is 00:37:01 Well, right. I guess. I'm looking at them and seeing a few flaws. Trust me. You're going to see everybody. But you're the one who brought up the verse, which is they're claiming to, to, to, see the truth and what they're claiming, I completely disagree with, which makes them guilty. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Because they're basically attacking people who admit they have flaws, but they're forgiven by the grace of God, who sincerely try to represent God's fundamentals, which are righteous and holiness, even though we're not perfect, even in our mistake, you know, somebody said, well, you're a, you're a sinner. So you're a counsel. I'm like, yep, but Jesus resurrected me. I'm back in. And he continues to do that. That's the problem that they have.
Starting point is 00:37:53 And look, I'm not embracing what they say, but I do understand the issue because it's very hard for a human being to wrap his head around that God loves me even though I make mistakes. And he uses me. Everyone who sins breaks the law. In fact, sin is lawlessness. And you look out there, God sent Jesus down to die for the lawless. The lawless.
Starting point is 00:38:23 That's what I'm saying. But, you know, it's interesting. Even if you weren't looking at through the spiritual lens that we are, there was about 150, Jays, authors. And most of them were left-winger and would agree with the politics of most people that are part of this cancel culture. And they basically just did an open letter. and they all signed it saying, this is terrible because we all make mistake. Like they're saying we're writers, how can we not write, if we're going to write something, if you're going to deem that it's offensive because of whatever you're going by,
Starting point is 00:38:54 none of us can ever speak our mind about anything. Well, the first people you'd have to cancel is all these media people. Well, look, I've been on the earth. They're part of the cancel culture. 50 years and some of the worst people I've ever been around were the media. I mean, just. But they're fueling this. They're the ones that'll out you.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Let's take one last break. That's what I'm saying, though, even in the culture itself, even people that aren't saying anything about God, it just strikes me. Even they say, we can't survive like this because everybody's going to get canceled. They're saying it. They're like, because everybody makes mistakes. All they figured out is that we all make mistakes. That's right. I could have told you that.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Save you. I had told you that in 10 seconds. Well, hopefully, I mean, what's the sad thing is a lot of people now, it's not just you, lose your influence or they kick you off of, you know, Twitter or Facebook, but their people lose their jobs, their careers. If they will turn to Jesus, Jesus will cancel that sin. That's my thing. That's what I love. And he will cancel their physical death problem by raising them from the dead.
Starting point is 00:40:00 It's a win-win deal with him. What I keep saying is, what is wrong? What's the downside to human beings who love God and they love each other and they prove that. What's the downside of that, Al? That's all God asked of us. Love him and love each other. Because they don't know about that. Because God to them is not a reality. And then you have different forms of worshippers. And so they just look at it like a big mess for something that people need just to get through because they're weak. And so that's why it goes back to that pride. They're like, I don't have an answer to death. I don't.
Starting point is 00:40:42 don't have an answer to make wrongs right, but I do have an answer for you. And it is that we don't support you or like you, and we will counsel you because you sin, even though they're not willing to admit theirs. But you got to remember most of these folks that are doing this are on a Marxist path. And you remember what was it Lenin that said? What was this quote? Religion is the opium of the people. That's right. It must be removed. So see, the whole comment side of things was atheism, forget about God, we don't do anything like that. I mean, you've got to move away from that. The Apostle Paul quoted the verses Jase Love, they ended up by saying, Love never fails. Yeah. And America is currently missing that right now. They don't see it.
Starting point is 00:41:34 They just don't see it. Because think if you could just infuse the one concept of forgiveness into this whole culture. Like if you say, you know what? Yeah, we had some problems along the way. I mean, man, slavery stunk and people were mistreated. But what would happen if there was just a mass forgiveness of all past hurts that were inflicted on people and said, you know, we're going to go forward and we're not ever going to go back there. We're going to do nothing. No canceling, no retaliation, just forgiveness. Just forgiveness. Man, what a world with I mean, how different would that make everything? People could then, even if you had different ideology. They don't want to do that. They don't want to. They want to hold on to the business and the hangar.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Because you've got to make it right somehow. Yeah. It's never going to be achieved. You're never going to make the wrongs right outside of Jesus being God and his blood on a cross. Because you're going to come up with it. Because they'll talk about things like currently about reparation money. Like, okay, so if we dump a much of money into this situation, that's going to solve everything. My message to America is, hey, America, repent and go to the voting booth.
Starting point is 00:42:41 It sounds like... Turn to God and go to the voting booth. You should write a book about it. But Al's right. They're like, a lot of people say, well, just give everyone money who have been oppressed. And everybody be good. Yeah, we're all good then.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Money will do it. What's that going to do? That doesn't solve anything. It's like saying if you lock... There's never enough money, Jace, because they've spent trillions and trillions with this welfare thing. You're like... You'll take the money.
Starting point is 00:43:07 What happened? Go buy... It's worse now than there was when they started out. You'll take it. make the money, go buy you some snow crowds because they're good, and you'll eat it. And guess what? You'll get to thinking about it, and you'll still be mad. You'll still be mad.
Starting point is 00:43:20 It's like if someone's family member dies because someone did something that was some other person's fault. So in America, you sue them because you're mainly trying to punish them. You don't want this to happen to somebody else. But what do they do? What can they do? They give you a big fat check. Does that change the fact that you lost someone you loved? Or like all of a sudden, oh, okay, I got $2 million.
Starting point is 00:43:40 So, you know, we don't miss them that much. I'm trying to. That does a while. They have fun for a while. But it doesn't ever take away the difficult. Well, I'm trying to deal with the signage. The little girls, they had sticks in their hand. Dan showed it to me because I don't read computers, but I looked at it.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I said, what? And Dan said, check this out. The little girls, they had signs. Sticks were signs. The signs said, we're going to hell. and we're proud. All of them said the same thing, the signs. I said, let's see.
Starting point is 00:44:16 So I'm trying to, as a human being, 74 years old, trying to figure out some kind of angle, Al, so I can talk to a mind that's saying, I'm going to hell, and I'm proud of it. The only way you would say that is if you didn't believe there was a hell. So they wrote that down, Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:40 They just wanted to get you riled up, but they don't. They really don't believe it's there. Well, they don't believe it's there because no rational thinking person would say. So they just die and rot in the ground, filling in bomb and fluid, and that's over. Yeah. That's what it is. I don't think they're really thinking that far down, you know. You got a member, too.
Starting point is 00:45:00 There's a lot of drugs out there. You get all impaired and get riled up, and then you go out there. then you start making irrational comments. But that gets other people stirred up. But I realize they need Jesus. The great thing about Jesus. That scares me when I hear that out. It scares me for them.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Even to play around with that, right? But the great thing about Jesus is that he offers forgiveness even to that person. Because my initial response to that is not enough butt-wippins when they were a kid. Well, that's not going to work. But that's just the way it, it marries you up, makes you mad. Which is why he's showing you that, which is a lot of what the Internet is, it's people trying to come up with stories or images to get you rolled up so that you'll linger on that site and they'll get paid for it. I mean, sadly, that's just the truth.
Starting point is 00:45:55 But most of it I don't think is as bad as what you see because we sensationalize everything through the media. Well, the media is definitely playing a big role in how all this goes, that's for sure. So we're about out of time. We never got to John 10. We'll get to John 10 next time. Well, Dad started with that last verse. Well, you come up with the 127th episode. We're moving a mile.
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