Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 129 | Jase Is Mistaken for a Robber, a Hilarious 'New' Land Purchase, and the Reign of Jesus

Episode Date: August 16, 2020

Phil and Jase get an offer they can't refuse ... to buy land that Jase thought they already owned. But closing the deal takes a turn for the surreal when the elderly seller thinks Jase is a masked ban...dit. And Jase makes the case that Jesus redefined what it means to reign as king, his followers are a royal priesthood, and the kingdom is now. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am Unashamed What about you? I mean, here's what I found fascinating is that we've been meeting what two weeks now, two or three? It's been about a month, actually. It's been a month.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I'm terrible. So, of course, they're like, you can meet, but you have to wear a mask going into the building, which I have, because, you know, law and order every time, that's me. Now see, that's why our viewers, if you haven't seen the outlaw Josie Wells or Tombstone, you're missing a third of the jokes that are discussed.
Starting point is 00:00:49 But I'm at 74 and with the mask when the people are talking to me when I get there, they're all wearing a mask. You're not wearing one? I don't have a mask. But I mean, but I could use this, I guess. But anyway. You need to, Phil, there's a decree that you walk into a building, You wear a mask.
Starting point is 00:01:08 I'm staying away from best I can, but then you've got to baptize people. What are you going to do? But I noticed it's hard to understand people. They're talking through that mask. And you can't hear anyway. Some of them ask me, you know, they handed me a mic
Starting point is 00:01:23 and wanted me to pray for the ones that are going to get married there. And some guy was saying, and I couldn't understand what he was saying. But when he handed me the mic, I said, so what exactly you want me do with this? And he said, well,
Starting point is 00:01:37 Then somebody said with a clear voice, no, so on to them, but they're going to get married. I said, oh, they want me to pray for their marriage. But the guy told me that, he was telling me what I was fixing to do. But I couldn't understand him. Because he had a match. Gibberish. Gibberish. I'm not that hard of hearing.
Starting point is 00:01:56 I mean, I've had a lot of gunfire on both sides. Phil, you can't hear. When I walk into your house, it's like the sound system at a movie theater times three. And I'm like, I only do that, you know, when Credence Clearwater Revival comes on, Axis TV or something about. But then you don't turn it down.
Starting point is 00:02:15 You go to the news and I feel like this guy's giving me a report from inside my left ear. So, look, I like the mask. I didn't think I would, but I kind of like it. Because now people don't know who you are.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I do kind of like the hiding out thing. Well, they won't let you in the grocery store unless you have one. And so Missy got me. one that's actually pretty comfortable. I don't know where she got it. I'm trying to keep a distance from individuals. I never go out into the audience.
Starting point is 00:02:45 I mean, I stay up, I stay up there, and I'm seated at a table, and somebody comes up, and I'm like, thumbs up, and they're standing over there. But you did this before the coronavirus. Huh? You did this. You've always done that.
Starting point is 00:02:57 That's right. So I just stayed with that plan. I don't interact with the audience as far as that goes. They got a pretty good thing. So look, so I was going to tell you, I was going to tell you about my sermon because I did it, and I thought it went well. But we were talking about this. Mass, you know, it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:03:15 We had a, there's a little piece of property. Did I tell you about this? Phil and I bought in the middle of our ducco. Well, here's what's interesting. It was only, I think it was supposed to be 39. It wasn't on the middle of the ducco. It's on the end of it. Well, I'm saying the middle because, here, I'm going to tell the truth here.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Okay. Look, it's where the creek comes in that we pump from. I don't think you've heard this. I hadn't there. And so here's what's interesting about it. I thought we own this because Phil, through the years, he certainly acted like we owned it. We pumped from the creek.
Starting point is 00:03:53 He has a levy there. Well, I get a... No, I'm inside my line there. Okay. I'm going to tell the truth. Tell the truth is I'm not on... When I'm pumping, I know where the line is, If I can never get to the tree.
Starting point is 00:04:07 It's your reply that this is not, that's not quite understanding. This is the funniest story. This is the funniest story you've ever heard. So I get an email saying, would you be interested in buying these 39 acres? Which I'm like, no, you know, 39 acres, what? I was like, well, send me, but I didn't dismiss it because I was,
Starting point is 00:04:29 send me a color coordinated picture of where this property is. is. Well, they send it and I'm like, I thought we already own this. Because I'm looking at the line and feels like, yeah, I put a levy right inside the line. I look, oh no, the levy's on their property. And so I'm like, okay. So, well, okay, maybe they got the pitcher wrong, Phil, but according to this map, you built a levy on their property. So anyway, I said, well, yeah, I'm interested in. I put it on the property line, granted, but not over the way. the line. Well, they had the picture.
Starting point is 00:05:08 It was close. All right. So I said, yes, we're interested. There was really no negotiation much. They said, we want to sell this. And I'm like, well, we got to have it because that's where we pump from. I was like, I'll give you this one. They're like, sold.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I thought, well, that was easy. So I have to go up and do the deal. So I realize, I'll pull this bill and I'm like, oh, no, I've got to have a mask on. And so they said there were several, several sellers. Well, here's what's funny. When I walk in to a lawyer's office where they do negotiation. When I walked in, there was the people selling, which it was seven of them. And I would say the average age was 85.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yeah. But when I walked in, there was a real elderly woman in a wheelchair. When I walked in, she put her hands up. And I was like, did I miss something? and somebody said that that's one of those duck dynasty guys that's who we're buying the land from selling the land too well yeah i think he said buying the land from yeah yeah he meant no i'm telling you what happened yeah 85 things i thought i thought we were buying i'm buying the land and she has her hands up and she went well i thought he was an outlaw robbing the place
Starting point is 00:06:28 because i had the mask that's not real good going into a a land purchase. And I thought she was kidding. So I was laughing. And she said, no, I really did. I mean, her hands immediately went up in three seconds. So anyway, they were really nice, but it was old. And these days' trouble, the only thing could have been worse is if it had been me,
Starting point is 00:06:52 I would have had a pistol in my pocket. Well, here we go. Well, no, I'm just saying, if I'm uptown, because, you know, I just see people, I'm getting out of my rig and say people, wait, why, why? race is but that shows you how weird things are in our
Starting point is 00:07:06 current situation because a lot of them are wearing bandanas which goes back to the old west so people are concealed carry
Starting point is 00:07:14 with bandanas walking into building we've got to remind ourselves in case the audience has forgotten but our family somebody just drove by
Starting point is 00:07:25 on a drive-by shooting put bullets in my grandson's house and aimed toward Willie's two months ago So, I mean, there's been people just stop and start putting bullets to our houses. So it's not like somebody's, well, he's paranoid. And I don't know whether he would, he just, you know, trying to intimidate people.
Starting point is 00:07:43 No, I'm just trying to love, love, I love my wife, y'all are my children. Y'all have children. Love always protects. Well, we went through that. I mean, look, the weapon of choice is the Bible. The sword of the spirit. We don't fight with the weapons of the world. That's right.
Starting point is 00:08:05 But if you shoot at me, I want to protect my family. I will shoot back. And I famously said in Dynasty, you know, if you shoot, don't miss. Because we're, that's just not allowed. So anyway, so to get, and the land worked out, I felt. So why were there so many, that many people owned it? Individuals. No, it was funny.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Family members. No, look, their, their grandpa, bought it in 1910. Really? Yeah. And the reason I brought that up about the levy is because the son want two of the family and they were all still alive, which was, that's why I said they were, I mean, it shows you that, whatever gene pool they came from is stout.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Because that was about 110 years ago. Yeah. And these, and it was their grandpa. But one of the sons was his, his mom was there, but she, she just nodded. and he was kind of there. But he made the comment, he said, I mean, this is just a formality because y'all been acting like it's yours
Starting point is 00:09:07 for, I guess, 30 years. You know, they all laughed. So, did they know it was us? Did they know it was the family? Yeah, well, I did go around. Half of them. Half of them did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I did fudge on the line one time when I looked across there. Oh, we're moving now. There was three fox squirrels in an oak tree, and I looked at the line. And I said, you know, there's three squirrels. These people own the land, I'll share the squirrels with them if that's what they want. Well, they said, we hadn't even been down there in 10 years.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I was like, it's fine. They're good people. Oh, they're really good. We got along. I mean, it did take a long time because of the hearing. That's what made me think was the mass. We had to repeat everything five times, you know. But it would get to the end because I thought, well, I'm getting such a good deal on this land.
Starting point is 00:09:59 You know, it was because, you know, flood land's pretty inexpensive anyway. And so they're like, right before I signed the papers, they're like, I said, well, it says here 29. I thought you said, 39 acres. They're like, well, it's 39, but 10 of it is in the river. Because the river at that time. When they put the block and down, down below the Wastah River down below us 13 miles, they raised the water level. Oh, and they lost 10 acres. And it inundated about nine acres of whoever owned the property along the river.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Which is now, you know, you have a fellow. and I bought about 10 acres out there. Technically you own it. Yeah, technically you own it, but the U.S. Army Corps engineers, they're the ones who have claimed it. That's right. By putting the locking down, flooding it with water, the timber that was there died on the edge. I've seen this all passed by the last 35. I noticed I had to sign.
Starting point is 00:10:48 The only other thing I had to sign was saying what he just said, that if a flood calls from having the lock, you know, flood your land and destroys it, the government is not responsible in any way. We fight that every year. If the locks and dams were not there, we would not inundate as rapidly and as often. They're trying to get a shipping lane up the Wastard River, but there's no major cities up the Wastard River.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Well, that's what I thought. Why? I mean, once you get past money, from an economical. Politicians got in there, you know. Phil. Phil has a disdain. But they...
Starting point is 00:11:27 Let's dam up the Washington River. Any money in it? Yeah, you'll get about a half a billion. I don't think. It is. That's true. But they send the barges down, and it was for economical reasons, which... I mean, if you'd asked me that 30 years ago, I would have been like, yeah, let's make some money.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Having lived with all the floods, because there's very few people who are stupid enough to live in flood zones. Except us. Or buy land there. hint that's why the people that when people say yeah I'll buy this they're like really because it stays under water half the time so you'll know as the oldest son with the last four years over there out of all that property I would say when the water came up each time we were down to about six to eight acres of dry ground the entire thing the entire thing was flooded.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Well, most people would say, why in the world would you want that? Because when it all recedes, there's a lot of crawfish, there's pretty good there's frogs. There's frogs. There's ducks. And the deer come back. The deer, the water runs them all out to the high ground. You say,
Starting point is 00:12:46 well, that's all the deer. As soon as it falls back and they can walk in the mud again, they come right back. Because there's a lot of acorns on those oak trees. It doesn't stay on them long enough to kill them. it comes up usually about this year's came up in February stayed March April May June July it finally started out what I've been doing is with the fallout I'm going back in there plan the beavers stop up all my drain pipes I've got them fixed so I can hold water right so I
Starting point is 00:13:17 borrow the water for the winter duck hunt and and the Lord sends plenty and has in the last four year. Well, when I drain it all out, I'm fighting the beavers to get the water out so it won't kill the timber. And 8% of it, of the now 1,600 acres or so, 8% of it is open, as in a field. 8%, 92% flooded woods. So that's the piece of, most people would say, I wouldn't have that for any reason whatsoever. But for us, it fits us perfectly. It's perfect. Let's take a quick break. In the woods with field, you know. There you go. Yeah, well, we're here.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Which, by the way, is a show that you need to check. In fact, part of that parcel is where we're seated right here. Well, right. 10 years ago, eight years ago, we didn't know on this. Which is the highest ground. This is the highest ground. This is your last chance. Someone said, well, where do you stay if there's not but.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Right here. But a small percentage that's dry. They said, where are you? I said, on the dry piece. I'm looking at, I know where the river's going to come to. on as big as it gets until it floods the world. So in the unashamed layer. Barring I know it's flood, we're all right.
Starting point is 00:14:33 On the unashamed layer, we're on the high ground. You're on the high ground. We're at the last point. The last stop. So here's what I deal with my sermon. I give you the nuts and bolts of it. Because didn't, am I mistaken? So on the podcast, Zach did an episode that I wasn't on.
Starting point is 00:14:49 You were getting ideas from Zach and dad about your sermon. Well, I did. And it was a process. And several, you know, we got several emails that y'all forwarded to me over, you know, people are like, what are you crazy? There's nothing kingly about us, you know? Revelation 1-6 is a futuristic thing. And so what I did, my two most trusted advisors from a theological few. That's Zach and Phil?
Starting point is 00:15:18 No. Zach and Mr. McGregan, the Irishman, he's an elderly gentleman. and what I like about him is I've sent him a lot of things before. And look, the first time I ever did, I just sent him an email and said, here's what I'm thinking. How old is he now? Is he 90 yet? 80, 85, man. Oh, okay. I thought he's up. 83, 85, somewhere in there.
Starting point is 00:15:38 He's great, great, brother. He's still, mine works great. And look, he's rough around the edges, which is what I like. Because I've sent him stuff before and said, here's what I'm thinking. And I'm, like, detailed outline. Here's some new concept. And he's like, Jace, you're, lost me from the beginning to the end.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I love it. I'm like, okay. So I sent him this, and he was like, you know, it's a difficult question, but I think you're on to something. And so I pursued it. I'm reading from the Bible, you're a spirit built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood. You go down four verses.
Starting point is 00:16:22 You are a chosen people. you are a royal priesthood you know what's weird feel is he mentioned that he said we're a he said we're a royal priesthood there's something kingly about it but what he helped me see i haven't agreed with your your your deal yet well i've come a long way you've come a long way i'm giving you but you haven't heard the final deal which is what i preach yeah well give me that and then i'll get Okay, so here's what I did. What I did was I started with the conversation that Jesus was having with Pilate. Because even though I didn't, I started in John 18th.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I think he kind of said it, Pilate, so you're a king then. Well. It wasn't like, he was wondering about what kind of king. He was. It was a developing conversation. That's right. Now, he had already been interrogated by the high priest. And so, where are you?
Starting point is 00:17:23 I'm in John 18. The reason I'm bringing up the interrogation of the high priest is because he said in verse 20, he said, I've spoken openly to the world. I always taught in synagogues because he was being questioned about who he thought he was by the high priest. And he eventually gets to Pilate, and the conversation in verse 33, Paulette said, are you king of the Jews? That was a question. So are you the king of the Jews?
Starting point is 00:17:56 And look, do we really think Pollitt was being not sarcastic? I mean, here's this guy looking like he does. But he's like, so you king of the Jews. And by the way, there was a king. Herod was the king of the Jews. By the way, I'll just throw this in. Okay. because as the king of the cosmos,
Starting point is 00:18:20 we know that for sure, is walking down the road, a little troop of women that cooked for them and kind of cleaned up after them, they had those, and they decided, but if you saw them coming, and as they walked by,
Starting point is 00:18:35 the last thing you would conclude was there goes a bunch of kings and queens. You wouldn't conclude that. I mean, these people camped out. Can you imagine, Jace, camping out for 15 years from the time you're, you know, or at least the last three. I don't know where he stayed, you know, before. Well, to go back to the story I just told about walking into a lawyer's office.
Starting point is 00:19:01 It's hard to prove you're a king when you look like a vagabond. Look, when I walked into the lawyer's office and this old woman who was not a Duck Dynasty fan saw me, the last thing that crossed her mind is this is the guy, buying the land. You were there with a check. And if you had said... I have just hair, two eyeballs and hair coming out of a map. And if you had said, by the way, this is my dad.
Starting point is 00:19:24 If I had been there, she would have thought, whoa, the last thing they were concluded, we are talking to royalty. She wouldn't have expected a check. She probably would have given us if I'd have had you $10 for a meal. And maybe... If you had to put out your hat, she might have... A cup of hot cocoa. Go buy some valiant-soultious $9.
Starting point is 00:19:44 So he said, are you the... king of the Jews and and Jesus now look why didn't he just say yeah because he technically is king of everybody right correct but he said is that your own idea or did others talk to you about me and so didn't really answer the question so you think pilot was facetious in his question okay and so then he says well what is that you've done 35 and jesus said my kingdom now first he didn't answer the question But then he said, my kingdom, so now he is going to answer the question indirectly, is not of this world. If it were my servants, if it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews,
Starting point is 00:20:31 but now my kingdom is from another place. Now, Pilate, I believe, went from being sarcastic to, okay, this guy's crazy. Your kingdom is not from this place. Because he had to be thinking earthly. Remember, you've got three individuals. John the Baptist is saying, everybody needs to repent. Well, I'm going to get to that part. For the kingdom of heaven is near.
Starting point is 00:20:58 So if you start, if you just start adding it up, you're saying, wait a minute. These people are saying there's a kingdom from, and they point upward, there's a kingdom coming from above us. And it's the kingdom of heaven. well the king was right because the king is God who's become flesh but you just think about it Al it's a pretty hard sale by the way that book I just wrote that's what it's about Jesus politics Jesus politics is about the kingdom of heaven coming down to the earth producing a royal nation a holy nation within an earthly kingdom which they rise and they but this one, according to Daniel, will be established in the days of the Roman kingdom,
Starting point is 00:21:50 which, and you got Pilate, he's one of the big dogs in an earthly kingdom. He's talking to an individual who is the king of the cosmos. Well, it's a little bit tough to grasp. You're going to categorically agree with this, but what I did in this is I backed up to the arrest before we continue with this conversation. when Jesus, when they came up in the early part of chapter 18, and it says in verse 4, it says, Jesus knowing all that was going to happen to him,
Starting point is 00:22:21 because I made a point about that, Jesus knew he's fixed to be arrested, he fixed to be arrested, he fixed to be arrested, he fixed to be arrested over and over. He said that over and over and over. I'm going up to Jerusalem. I'm going to be crucified, and in three days I'll be raised from the dead.
Starting point is 00:22:34 I'm going to come from the dead. He's told them over and over and over. But none of them really, They said, what did you talking about? Well, he had to argue with the disciples, Mayor, because they kept saying, no, that's not going to happen. But they're in the same position pilots in. They're like, you're going to do what? Remember, Peter said, whoa, whoa, wait, that's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:22:49 He said, give a ham you, Satan. So most people, when they know this, the last thing they would do when they came up, he said, who is it you want? They said, Jesus of Nazareth. He said, I am he. Direct contradiction to how most people in power operate. You know what's fixed to happen, and then you stand up and say, yep, it's me. And then your followers are fixed to fight, which you would normally, if you were a king, that's what kings do.
Starting point is 00:23:16 They send people out to fight. Now, they'll say for the cause, but if they're there, you protect the king to death. And Peter cuts off the ear, he says, no, no, we're not doing that. And then there's... Because look. Hang on, let's take a break. The point being, Jace, he had to die for the sins of the world because that's why he came. Well, right.
Starting point is 00:23:41 He had to be resurrected because... That's why he came. But he also... Well, you don't want your guys doing battle. They'll lose, but you don't want them losing their life that quick, trying to defend him because he says, I've got a plan here. You don't want to stop it.
Starting point is 00:23:56 You know, one of our listeners sent something interesting. I guess we talked about this before, because, you know, that was the high priest servant. Did he cut his ear off? You remember that? Yeah. That was the guy, Malchus. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:08 And so this guy made a point I had never thought about. He said, if Jesus hadn't... to put the ear back on? Because, you know, he put it back on. Yeah, by the way. He healed him. That he couldn't have served under the high priest being marred like that. So, like, he gave him his job back.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I thought you were going to say, if he hadn't put the ear back on, he couldn't hear. Well, that either. Or here. But I thought that was really interesting that in that moment of grace, that this servant of the high priest, you know, he said he gave him his job. I had never thought of it. I just wondered what the guy's buddies. who had gathered together to go arrest Jesus,
Starting point is 00:24:46 what they thought when they saw the ear leave, and then all of a sudden, the one that they're fixed to arrest for being some kind of impostor or something. That's a great point. You know, I've thought about that. I'd have got together and said, wait a minute, you see that?
Starting point is 00:24:59 I mean, I'd have been like, wait a minute. He put his ear back on. He just put his ear back home. I'd have thrown my sword down right there and run away. It could be like these movies where he would put the ear back on and then like do something to where. oh, that was, I thought I'd just lost my ear. Did that just happen?
Starting point is 00:25:19 I thought he cut my ear up. No, I guess it did. I'm saying you could do that. If you can put the ear back on, you can like monkey with the memory also. I'm not saying he did that. I don't know where the ear fell or did it just like a clean slice or the guy picked it up and said, you know, what about? I'll tell you this. If you cut my ear off and then put it back on without a surgical procedure, I'm following you.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I'm laying my sword down. Me too. Forget about the high priest. You're now my high. I'm like, I'm going with this. Change the plans. But he might have become a believer. That was, you know, it's not important.
Starting point is 00:25:48 He may have been one of the three thousand. At this nature. I believe that's why it's true because who could have concocted a story like. Every time I read these texts in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, I'm like, how in the world, did they come up with that? So he says, my kingdom is not from his place. And so then the title of my sermon was Pilate's next line in 37. He says,
Starting point is 00:26:12 you're a king then. And then I said, if you're reading between the lines, I'll add this. You're like Granny Hawkins on the porch, you know. You be Josie well. Okay. No, it really was. You know, they say they were going to kill you. And so now, here's what I found interesting.
Starting point is 00:26:37 When I looked into the original language, the one that got this wrong, which is the version I use in NIV, said, Jesus answered, you're right in saying, but when I looked at all of the original and all the other translations, he doesn't say, you are right. I mean, I'm not saying that he's saying
Starting point is 00:26:56 he's not a king, but he just said, so you say. Because he's basically you start off, are you king of the Jews? He says, my kingdom is not of this place. And my point is Jesus wasn't bragging, he wasn't being audacious, because he's different from all over. Plus, he didn't go in on the front end.
Starting point is 00:27:14 He's not bragging. He's not saying, I will, I will snuff you out like a gnat. Plus he didn't go in to the conversation by saying, look, you don't realize who you fooling with. None of that. None of that. None of that man-made stuff. You're a real king, but he said, yeah, I'm going to tell you, you don't realize who you're messing with. I got an army of followers. And so he, so Jesus says, so you say, in fact, for this reason, I was born. and for this I came into the world to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of the truth listen to me. So you're like, what kind of answer is this?
Starting point is 00:27:49 So he says, what is truth? Again, he missed the point. I made a point to where if he had followed Jesus a few chapters earlier, when Jesus had this conversation with a religious guy, but it was the same conversation, and I mean a religious guy by Thomas, one of his followers, remember when Jesus said, I'm going to prepare a place,
Starting point is 00:28:07 I'm going to leave, but I'm going to prepare a place for you and in my father's house you know there's many rooms and i'll well thomas says well we know how do we know the way yeah how do we get there how we're gonna get there and pilot same way we know where's this kingdom you're from where where's this place where you know you're a king now some foreign place well and you remember what he told thomas he said i am the way you're looking at him so the proper question here would have been who who is the truth because he said everyone on the side of the truth
Starting point is 00:28:40 listen to me. Jesus's point was, you listen to me. Now, we have somebody put Jesus' words in red letters. You won't know what the truth is?
Starting point is 00:28:51 You listen to him. It's an actual person. And so he's like, well, what is truth? Because typical worldly response, truth is whatever you make it, however you feel. I love you just don't hurt anybody.
Starting point is 00:29:04 You determine your own truth. You determine your own truth. That was pilot. How about our, culture today. Oh, what is true? What is true? No, I know who truth is.
Starting point is 00:29:15 You know who it is. Yeah, his name is Jesus. You know, I'm restless. I'm wondering on the earth. I'm digging holes looking for treasure. And one day I find the greatest treasure ever, and it's a note with one word on it. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:29:33 He's, this is the treasure. So that was kind of where I started. Now, I then go to First Timothy 6th, because he relates Paul's letter to Timothy, he makes a comparison to Jesus' confession to Pilate and our confession. Now, what confession is that? And at first, McGuigan helped me with this
Starting point is 00:29:57 because I said, would Jesus redefine what it means to be a king? And he said, well, I think it'd be better to say this. Jesus redefine what it means to reign. I like that better because he didn't go around bragging about being a king he humbled himself he was a servant and I read that part
Starting point is 00:30:18 remember when the argument broke out between the two followers they said I want to sit on your right hand and I want to sit on the left hand now before we get to the end of the story where did they get this idea about sitting on some kind of throne because Jesus was talking about repent for the kingdom is near and so I know they have discussed this idea
Starting point is 00:30:36 of being exalted or why would they they have an arguing about who's going to be on the right and who's going to be on the left on the throne of heaven. And Jesus said, no, I'm not that kind of king. I came here not to be served, but to serve. And so I made a list of, I think about seven or eight things. I don't have the list, but off the top of my head, I said, here's the kings of the earth, and here's Jesus in direct opposition to that.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Number one, I brought up this comment about him. Everything he said, he said in public. He made a point of saying that here. Well, think about politicians and kings. Where do decisions get made in back rooms? Number two, access. Let's say you want to go talk to the king. Trust me, you're not getting there.
Starting point is 00:31:22 They're going to say, who are you? Well, what is Jesus? He offers access to anybody. I mean, how many verses are there in there about we gained access to the king? You think he didn't lose a man. there's no other kingdom in the history of kingdoms where there were not men lost for the cause of control and power to take over. They used death to conquer other kingdoms. He used his own death.
Starting point is 00:31:53 He was the only one that died for the kingdom. And so you say he was sinless. And this came up to a point that I didn't get into, that I wanted to, that I did the research to. if you ask people, let's just say across America, would you prefer a democracy or a monarchy? What do you think people would say in America? They would say democracy. Yeah, including me.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I'd say democracy. And so when you bring up this, the reason people are so sensitive about this, and they don't want to agree with me right off the bat, they're like, oh, well, we prefer a democracy. And I'm like, yeah, I agree with that except for one exception. unless the monarchy had a king that was perfect. Now, if he was perfect and the main thing, that was different.
Starting point is 00:32:46 He would always be, if he was perfect, he would always be 100% just. That's exactly right. And with men, it's just not there, pure justice. And they're reaching for it, but it's beyond. their grasp because Jesus You want to take a break? Yeah, let's take a break. And that's why we got some many problems, by the way.
Starting point is 00:33:16 You keep hearing the word justice. Keep hearing it. Because it's unjust. Men are unjust. I mean, they're never going to be right. They're wanting the fallible to somehow be infallible. Well, the only infallible one who ever showed up
Starting point is 00:33:32 happens to be the king Jesus is talking about. That's the reason he's the king. Which, by the way, that's the answer to what ails us, because if we could agree on that, what kind of country would we have? It would be a world. The world could believe in.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And he's 100% innocent, and he's not private or shrewd as in what you see is what you get. You got the red letters. You don't know what God's like. Here it is. By the way, he said it out loud and on purpose.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Do you know of any money he carried with him and any kind of? Any money? He was not materialistic. Think about it. Which is the opposite. of an earthly king. Look, they live in palaces.
Starting point is 00:34:12 How do you gain 3 billion followers on planet Earth? And the gospel about this king took off from the time the kingdom was established. 3,000 people. They heard the message. Jesus died, was buried, and raised from the dead. They repented, were baptized. They were warned. Well, they took off from there.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Wow, that went worldwide to the tune of 3 billion followers. And he didn't have any money that I know of. He didn't have a job that I know of. Well, the last two qualities that I discussed is why that happened. One was that he didn't come to be served. All other kings, whether they want to admit it or not, because there's like 21 monarchies left. They came to be served.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Oh, they're served. Oh, yeah. When they say jump, you start jumping. And so he's not like that. And then the last one was that, well, he beat the grave. if you conquer the grave, if we kill the king, because then the next king comes up,
Starting point is 00:35:10 you know, in the lineage. No, this king, they killed him, and he just came, he came back. Well, no, you're the king of kings. That's how that transpired. By the way, well, go ahead. I was going to say, it's interesting because in Israel's history,
Starting point is 00:35:27 which had kings, I think there were 39 between North Israel and Judah, out of all those kings, only six were decent people. They were, and they were all flawed because they're, but I'm saying even people that were, supposedly God was their king of Israel, I mean, six out of 39?
Starting point is 00:35:47 So what you're saying, Al, is good kings, as it turns out, with any empire. That's right. From here all the way back to the beginning, good kings are hard to find, and perfect kings, only one. What is amazing is, And he somehow became, amongst all this, the marker for time itself.
Starting point is 00:36:11 That's right. All the years before this king are called all the years before this king arrived. And all the years after him is called year of the king, year of the king, year two, year three. When I ask, year of 2020, it's still counting, but we're all counting time by him. Whether we love or hate him. I think you like this. So what I did, I was going over this with my other. guy that I kind of bounce ideas off of. And he said, you know what this sounds like? He said,
Starting point is 00:36:39 it sounds like when America was formed 1776, we got our independence. He said, you know the motto then that came up from the people? And he told me the situation, which, you know, I didn't do well in history. And it's been a while since I've been in school. He said, you know, they had a motto, no king but king Jesus, because the king of England was going to try to take over America. And I was like, I need to go Google that. Well, when I Google it, there were thousands of articles about it because the people who are anti-God, they don't like that piece of American history. So they've done everything in their power to write that out of any kind of history. That is correct. They're like some reverend
Starting point is 00:37:22 said it with two of the founding fathers who were probably drunk and, you know, and a few people said, no king but king, Jesus. But the reason I bring that up is because that was. You know who's where a king is, Carl Marx. Well, I'm going to get to that. But I do think it's interesting that when Pilate could not find any basis to crucify Jesus, he goes out to the Jews and he said, look, the man did, he's not done anything wrong. Let's let him go. They're crucify him, crucify him.
Starting point is 00:37:52 But their slogan was, we have no king but Caesar, which I thought was interesting. our country and a couple of founding fathers at least, even if all these people who are so have all this smoke because they're uncomfortable that our country was built on that part of that motto,
Starting point is 00:38:12 which I believe it was. Sure it was. And I don't think, look, to be fair, I don't think they were trying to exalt Jesus so much as they were not wanting to be under the tyranny of a king from across the ocean,
Starting point is 00:38:27 but since they were God-believing people, they said, no, we don't have any king but Jesus. They had read enough in the Bible that they knew there was a big difference between King Jesus and the guy over in England. Well, which is the point that we're all flawed, including the kings. Let's take one last break. Which is why you see, and you're right,
Starting point is 00:38:51 in this current movement of people, and certainly it is towards no God, atheism. Oh, yeah. just recently. There's a big pile of books. I saw burning on the news, and I thought, what is this?
Starting point is 00:39:05 We're burning books now. Then I found out what the books were. Yeah, the Bible. The Bible. Oh, yeah. So the idea is we don't want God having anything to do with us.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I think people in our country, they love the idea of a democracy. I do too. And a lot of people who are fighting against God, they have the same reasoning for why they don't surrender to Jesus because they want to be independent. The problem is
Starting point is 00:39:29 they're missing that part about what kind of rain Jesus presents. That's why those six or seven things that I got out of the red letters were so important. He's a loving king. That was another one of the point. His weapon of choice was not a sword, was not a gun, was not enslaving people. It was love. And so here he has all these qualities that he brings that it's not like we're actually serving some kind of crazy madman.
Starting point is 00:40:03 This is awesome. And in turn... Jase, you're quoting my book, Jesus politics, man. Keep it up. I didn't even know. I should have read the book first. That's right. I went to Ephesians 2 because here's the bottom line.
Starting point is 00:40:16 People who are after freedom and say, you know, I'm not going to surrender in America. You know, I'm going to protest this or that or... And I'm not surrendering to Jesus. Here's what they don't understand. In Ephesians 2, It says, as for you, you were dead in your transgression and sins in which you used to live when you follow the ways of the world. You know, if you're a sinner, watch what happens. And of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work and those who are disobedient.
Starting point is 00:40:44 The bottom line is whether you're claiming freedom, you're locked up. That's right. The horror of sin and how that drags us down, it comes to everybody. And you can claim freedom, but you're let a right. around by the nose and making bad decisions just like everybody else. But you can see their sins. It's easy to spot. Well, I can see mine. It ain't hard to spot. So look, and it lumps us all together. Verse three, all of us who lived among the cravings of our sinful nature and following the
Starting point is 00:41:15 desires and thought, we were by nature, objects or wrath. And people that are who opposed to God say, yeah, he's an angry God. But they don't, they fail to remember how Jesus showed himself, even in that moment of dying for the sins of the world, being humble. The opposite of any kind of authoritarian that we've ever known. And so what happens? But verse four, of his great love for us, God who is rich in mercy. Sure, he's disappointed when we're saying, sure it makes him angry, but he's also rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ
Starting point is 00:41:58 even when we were dead and transgressions. It is by grace you've been safe. And people stop there. Here's where the kingliness came in. And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus. Most people avoid that verse
Starting point is 00:42:18 because they have no idea what it means. But when you start thinking about this practically, I mean, let me just quote a verse for you. I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live. Christ lives in me. That's Galatians 220. So then I went into all this about the kingdom being predicted, which is what you talked about earlier. And, you know, some of you, Jesus said, who are standing here will not taste death. This is Mark 9-1, until you see the kingdom of God come with power. And I'm like, at some point during their lifetime, the kingdom of God came with power. Peter had the keys. Remember that? He told Decadamus.
Starting point is 00:42:55 unless you're born of water and the spirit. Born again, you can't enter it and you can't see it. Yep. What kind of kingdom is this? So then Acts 2, I briefly went through this like I'm doing now. Peter gets up after Jesus leaves, after he spoke about the kingdom of God for 40 days. You remember that? Which was the last thing he was telling them.
Starting point is 00:43:13 That's it. He was talking about the kingdom. That's right. So he preaches Jesus. The people hear it. They say, what do we do? He said, be baptized and two things will happen. You'll get forgiveness of sin.
Starting point is 00:43:25 and you'll receive the Holy Spirit. Well, when you have the Holy Spirit of God, the kingdom, here's Peter unlocking the gate, the kingdom of God, a colony of heaven showed up on earth via the Holy Spirit. You are correct.
Starting point is 00:43:41 And it's kind of unrecognizable because it's within people, people that look like us, which is, so I said all that to say so then when people come to me and they're like, and I tell them this story, they have the same response as pilot they're like so you're a king then that that's what happened and so then i finished going to revelation one six because it says he has made them past ends
Starting point is 00:44:14 he's speaking of seven churches to be kings and priests well that's what made the religious world when I introduced this a few weeks ago with Zach, I'm comfortable. Because they're like, oh, well, wait a minute, Jayce, you're saying that we're going to be kings one day? That's no good. I'm like, no, I'm saying we're kings now. But it's a different kind of rain.
Starting point is 00:44:37 It's a Jesus rain because then I took the seven qualities that made Jesus a different kind of rain and said, well, look, he made us all these ways. We can go out in public. We don't lurk around in private as disciples of Jesus. No, we go public. Everything's about us as a. I open book, our past mistakes and our future glory.
Starting point is 00:44:57 You know, pick any of the examples. I met with our current, if you want to call him that king, the head dog, Donald Trump. Look, all three times, you said, what were you talking to him about? Exactly what you've been saying. Yeah. That's what I talked about. And I threw in those qualities, our weapon of choice love. That's how the kingdom operates.
Starting point is 00:45:15 We don't lose a man. Why? They're just like, well, you're sure you're going to die? Not really. We've got the Holy Spirit of God. We're indestructible. That makes you kingly at least if you can't be killed. No sin.
Starting point is 00:45:28 You say, well, you have sins. They're all forgiven. They're gone. So actually. What if you make a mistake? Mediating work. And so I ended with this. I ended with John 112 that says God gave us the right to become children of God.
Starting point is 00:45:45 So, Jason, I'm almost to the point now to give you a standing O. But did they give you a standing O when you're talking? Not a word. lively well owl knows this crowd it's an older crowd they all had mask on Kurt lively well only got about a third of her
Starting point is 00:46:00 Some are peeking out from under their mask Yeah there's a guy that his name is lively Interesting enough A couple times when I was going through the qualities He went Jesus And everybody jumps And but it's not a lively crowd But in the younger crowd
Starting point is 00:46:16 Because they were they were taping it The malevolts Just beaming in live How did the millennials, the ones that are being indoctrinated? They're roaring. They're clapping. We're taking over the world. So they're all fired up.
Starting point is 00:46:29 But we do it in humility and in love. And I read the part about he gave us the right to be born because it's the lineage of this royal priesthood, like you said, passed on. He gave us that right. John Montevil. What else is he talking about? And then I went to Romans 8 and said he's made us heirs. Well, you think about being heirs. If you get what Jesus has, what is that?
Starting point is 00:46:50 You get everything. everything. That seems kind of kingly to me. All of a sudden. Yeah, a little bit more than being a king of the earth, you're tied into the king of the cosmos. So what's funny about it is, and here's, I want to say this, because people misunderstand it. So do we go around and say we're kings? No, because people don't understand. I'll give you the one thing that Paul gave the Corinthians. if you want to call yourself an ambassador, which is pretty, pretty uppity.
Starting point is 00:47:23 He said, we're Christ ambassador. Okay, if you want to be an ambassador and call yourself that fine. I'm not going to call myself a king because the humble nature of what we do and the serving nature of who we follow, he taught us that it's not about that. And I tied that in with the other verse in 1st Corinthians 4 that says the kingdom of God is not about talk,
Starting point is 00:47:45 but it's about power. Now, if you looked at what Jesus did, he wasn't saying, I'm going to squash you like a bug one day. Who are you to talk to me? He just demonstrated his power. He let him talk, and he didn't say a whole lot. He just said, my kingdom's not from this place. I was born for this purpose, and I have a purpose here. I testify to the truth, which happens to me and also me.
Starting point is 00:48:11 And so that's what we do. So you don't have to go out there and have a sign and say, I'm a king. You know, you say, look, I am following the king of kings. You're asking to get beat up if you do that. By the way, the ambassador in a country is representative of all the power and authority of the country of which he comes, he or she come. So that's a pretty good way. And you know what? And a king is the public persona of the state.
Starting point is 00:48:40 We represent heaven. That's what we do. Now, is it us? No. It's the spirit of God in us. And we point people to Jesus. That's what we do. Well, so thank you, Jay's.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Now I won't have to go back and listen to that sermon. Thank you for a pretty good little outline on the book I just wrote. Pretty good. That's right. And don't forget. Of course, he's my son, so the blood, it'd be thick. Exactly right. He's the product of you, so that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Well, I'm actually from heaven. I'm just not from here. I was made. Human lineage as opposed to the priest's no event. But we, as humans, are not made in the world. USA. So if you haven't done it yet, go to Amazon.com and get a copy of Jesus politics. And a lot of what Jay's talked about on the podcast today is in that book.
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