Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 133 | How Jase Makes the Best French Fries, Why Phil Supports Trump, and Drive-Thru Kindness

Episode Date: August 24, 2020

Jase discovers how to make the best french fries, and Phil says they're the best he's ever had. Al shares an awesome thing you can do in a drive-thru line. The guys hope college sports will stay relatively free of politics, and they have an update on hunting dogs BIG'N and Blue. Phil shares what he thinks of Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes, and he responds to an audience question about how he can support Trump despite the president's sinful past. And Jase reveals one policy on which he and Donald Trump Jr. completely disagree. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Sometimes I stop at Chick-fil-A and pick up some chicken biscuits for y'all and crew. I don't eat them much because I've been on this low-carb diet, which, by the way, so I'm today, I can eat no solid food, only clear liquids. Because tomorrow I have to have my five-year colon scope. Oh, boy. Done. Have you done yet, Jay's?

I did it once, and it was one of the worst things I've ever done. So here's the way this goes down, Daddy, because you've never had it before, right? So you drink all this clear, you can't eat any food, and then starting at about 5 o'clock this afternoon, there's two bottles sitting on my counter, and I've been just looking at him for about three days. Just like I'm building up my, as the Bible would say, I'm girding up my loins to have to dive into this what's about to have it.

So you drink that with some water. It doesn't taste good or use not to five years ago. It didn't. You drink this. And then in about 30 minutes to an hour, you feel a gurgle deep within, you know, your system. I don't even remember that. Oh, it's. And then you flush out your bowels for the next 12 hours.

So that they. But if you have no symptoms of anything, why would you do this? That's exactly what I thought. And I heard some bit about it. I'll tell you why I did it. So I was having all these images of the road signs in my mind. You know, off ramp only do not enter. You're going the wrong way.

Exit only. Construction. Slow down. Speed limit. It's just like all these signs. And I thought, they're just coming by it was like i was on a road going through so anyway i and i agree with all those things so here's why i did it that because our friend john howard told me he said you know

they say when you turn 50 you should have it looked at because you don't know and the thing about it is if you did have colon cancer or the beginning of it but you didn't know it right if you didn't know it it could kill you but if you knew about it it it's very treatable all the cancers, it's the most treatable if you can find it. So here's why I'm doing it. So that was why I did it the first time. But what happened was, so there are some polyps in there, like three or four, which they said, that's normal as you get older.

But that's where the cancer, it comes from, these polyps. So his suggestion was he said, look, I know this is unpleasant. I know you don't want to do this. But since you had the polyps, you probably are to come back in five years. And let's make sure it doesn't start. So now it's just more of a preventative. trust me i the road signs jays talked about i i see them as well but anyway so that's where i'm going to be tomorrow just so you know um you know having that done hopefully things will turn out

well so anyway chick filet so i stopped at chick filet yesterday because we're recording i brought to add some chicken biscuits and so i get up to pay at the drive-thooth and by the way any drive-thew now drive-thos are a nightmare because of coronavis because nobody's eating in hardly in these fast food place. Everybody does the drive-thru. Most people's drive-thus, they're not equipped to handle, you know, all-day, heavy traffic. So it's just like, but Chick-fil-A, because they were already fast and good, which Mia

worked at Chick-fil-A, too. And, I mean, like, they figured it out. They get people out there in the parking lot. They've sectioned areas. I mean, they don't make a good chicken sandwich and good chicken biscuit. They know how to move people through the establishment. And they have manners. You know, my daughter, she doesn't work there anymore.

But to this day, when I say something to her, she says, my pleasure. And she didn't say that before she worked for two-played, did she? Heck no. She did like every other teenager, you know, uh-huh. Now I say, well, thanks, Mel, for doing that. She's like, my pleasure. And she's like, I don't know why I keep saying that. I said, I love it.

It's a good thing to keep saying. It's just they, I mean, that was their, they're basically business. Let's have good food. Yep. Let's do this as efficiently as possible. And since we're taking people's money for us to survive, let's be very courteous and kind. That's right. Well, and we met like dad and I spoke at a Chick-fil-A sponsored event a few years ago.

You may not remember this, Dad. We spoke at Stone Mountain, Georgia to about 15,000 young people. and Chick-fil-A was the main sponsor, and so they were providing us to get there. Well, I didn't know all that. Like, you know, I handled our event, but, you know, we were doing events like crazy. So I just knew we were a private plane was coming,

and we were supposed to show up at this time to get on it. I knew that we were speaking of a youth event. So while we get out to the little FBI here in town, we come in, you know, and I see all these guys with the Chick-fil-A things on their, you know, lapel, you know, the little name tags. And then so this guy walks up to me, and his said, Bubba Kathy.

And I thought, I wonder if he's related to the Kathy's that own it. He comes up and shakes my hand. He said, oh, it's so nice to meet you. I just thought they recognized it. I'm not putting together that they're there for us. And so I was like, well, man, it's great. I said, are you like one of the Cathies? He said, oh, yeah, I'm one of the brothers.

I said, oh, that's great. So, well, y'all are, like, opening a store in the area. I was trying to figure out why they were there at the FBO, and I look out and see their plane, which is called Moof Force One, You know, it's got Chick-fil-A on the side of it. And he looked at it and he was like, we're here to get you and your dad and your mom to go to Georgia. I was like, oh, we're with you.

Because nobody ever saying that about Chick-fil-A. It was just, here's a youth event. So it was really awesome. But we had a great time meeting them. They're very godly people. It's their dad who started their business, just, you know, like in one store, Atlanta, Georgia. And now they're, I think they're the third biggest,

um play is they at starbucks macdonalds and chick fillet 10 billion 10 billion and just think of the persecution they got but anybody that's been there i mean they they're diverse oh yeah and they're fantastic yeah they're anybody that works there loves it so so i stopped to pay for the chicken biscuits um i get to my store and and so i you know now the credit card nobody touches it you know they put it out you get out of a basket nobody's touching anything so i go to put my card in And she said, oh, no, sir, the guy in front of you paid for yours. Oh, I do that all the time. So I had never, this never happened and I've never done it.

But I was like, they didn't want to say it. So I started looking, the guys like pulling out. And I thought, did he know me? Or was he just, I thought maybe it was somebody I knew. I did notice he was looking at his rearview mirror a couple of times because, you know, while we were in line. I don't think I knew him. So, but I left there to impact him.

I thought, man, what a nice thing. Because he didn't know what I was going to order. Look, somebody did that. for me a couple years ago. And so now when I go to Chick-fil-A, more than a few times, I'll- I want to buy as far as this goes

whatever I put up there in the line. I'm telling you, it does something to you. It does because today I go back through because we were coming back out to get to add some chicken biscuits. And so I was like, I want to pay for the guy behind me as well.

And she was like, oh, that is so cool. And so then I paid for mine. Then I paid his on the credit card. But he's going to have the same impact. But I thought that's really how you sort of pay stuff forward in the mindset of, you know, doing something nice for somebody. Well, you know, I never been through a chick filet line. I don't think. I'm trying to remember maybe way, way back. You know what? You don't spend as much. So you're talking about a line of vehicles. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's, it's well, when you. I did that somebody one time, but you pull up there and you're like, oh boy. They drive through places. I mean, is that real? Does that really happen? One of the few places that I'll go.

I remember Dad eating this first. I've told the story before, but his first spicy chick-fil-a sandwich he'd ever had in the airport. And Dad's eating his thing. He's like halfway through. And he said, wow, that's the best chicken sandwich I've ever had. It was so funny, I just bust out life because I was like,

Dad, you've never had a Chick-fil-A sandwich? He was like, I don't think so. You know what impressed me is my daughter worked there, and I thought, man, I hate this because I love Chick-fil-A. because I thought she was going to tell me war stories about what really goes on. No, she comes out. Every day she would come on and work, she'd have her Chick-fil-A stuff.

And I thought, you know, if you want to compliment right there, if you work there and you take your little meal, that is your meal. Of course, that was one of the reasons she wanted to work there because she loved Chick-fil-A. Right. They've been a really good helper with our charity also, whenever any opportunities come up there.

They've always stepped up. Well, I spoke. For the kids. They've been awesome. Lisa and I spoke at their, every year they have their, they call it their owners rally. And all the owners of Chick-fil-A's come together in a certain place. It was Orlando. We did it.

And so Lisa and I went in and spoke. They have a, they kick it off, which again, shows you what kind of people there are. They kick off their weekly. And it's about business and stores. And, you know, it's just like a week-long thing for the business owner. But they kick it off with a big devotional. And so they had like a great. Christian band in. They had great worship. And then Lisa and I did like a Q&A, you know,

with the moderator. And it was great. I mean, the people were awesome. And you see, you meet all these owners and you're like, of course, a lot of them were fans of our family in the show. But you see why that they run so well because they're owned by a lot of really great people. So I wanted to open up a place, call it duck filet. Same kind of concept, but just ducks. What do you think? Ducks, popular notice. Well, I meant like the grilled version. You know, I mean, if you had the, you could have bacon, wrap, wrap, ducks, jalapinos, just make it, you know, good. I mean, that's good.

You put a bun on it. It would sell. I think it would work. But you do the same. You'd have to get into the tame market, the tame ducks. Well, right. The mosquitoes are better, by the way. By the way, that's the number one consumed bird in the world, ducks.

Why else are they here? Far out distances, turkeys, chickens, ducks. Really? The Asians. The Asian countries they're big.

I would think what the one. Now I'm really thinking this will work. And you are to open it in Asia. Well, I mean, we'd eventually move there. Yeah. I mean, that's where you'd make the money. Will you help us?

I think it's a good idea. I've had it before. Because people, you know, if you get the right kind of duck and you cook it right. If you want to get in a restaurant business, Jason. No, I don't want to. I just want to start the business and let somebody else.

You don't want to do it. Sticky chicken. What about sticky duck? Sticky ducks. I mean, they already got chicken, but there's a chicken place. The duck wraps are close to sticky ducks. I mean, they're close to sticky chicken. So tell the audience where the idea of sticky chicken comes from.

Well, if I give the audience of what sticky chicken is, then they'll have somebody to have somebody. It's a secret. What's a secret? You read it in a cook. And they'll pull off what the family you're talking about. But Phil does that with a lot of animals. He has sticky squirrels, sticky chicken.

We did the sticky for all. What makes the sticky is the way you cook it, right? Yeah. But it's like potatoes. I mean, I took, what I did to a potato revolutionized the French fry. I have better fries than McDonald's. When you think of the top, what, two French fries we think of, McDonald's, who else? That's about it.

Okay. My fries are better than McDonald's. The problem is I can't sell it because what makes them so good is I cook them a lot longer. I mean, it's the way I cook them. It makes it crispier. What do you think? Very good. Number one, very good.

Well, I saw it just the other day they had that. They listed the, they did a poll on the, and McDonald's was number one. And I want to say it was maybe some other company, we don't, some other food place we don't have here out west. And did you think of Jason's fries? I didn't because I hadn't eat French fries and so long, but it's been a while. They're slow-cooked. They're not like you put a bunch of French fries in a basket and drop them in a certain temperature. This is slow.

My idea came from the fact of like when you go to a fish fry because everybody, when you have a lot of people, they're trying to do everything in a hurry. Right. So they'll take a bunch of huge potatoes and stick them down in ball and hot oil and cook them fast and they're like hard and greasy. Yeah. Horrible. And so McDonald's figured out how to make them crispy in life.

Right, right. Well, I figured out, now they do it fast, frozen, but the reason mine are better is because I take a potato and actually cut it up. And I don't use much oil. It's a little oil. And I put it in cold. I use peanut oil. Put them in cold oil.

So it's not heated when you put them in. No. No. I turn it. fire on and put them in. Okay. Yep. So then you watch it because what's going to happen is you're going to think I flopped it

the first couple of times I tried it. Yeah. Because as the heat starts to, you know, get hotter, the potatoes will actually break down and they become mushy. But you don't panic because once that fire and you stir them around now, once that fire gets to its as hot as it'll go. Right. They then, so they get.

soft and then they get crisp and so and they shrink so you put actually a few more potatoes than what looks logical and so as they shrink the flavor much more potato flavor and the fry will actually be twice as small as that it started and it will be that was my next question how thick are they when you put them in there they're all shapes and sizes because you know you're doing it in hand but the smaller they are, the more crunchy they'll be. Yeah, right. Now, because you're eating mine, they're crispy. Right. But they're, they're nice

in the middle. Did they turn the color? Are they brown? Oh, they're brown. They're brown, but the bigger ones will be, have still a little white in the middle. You coat them with anything? It is a great way to fix cheese fries. I coat them for Cajun seasoning. So you try that and let me know how that works. All right, let's take a break. Yeah, so that's perfect having all this food discussion on a day when I'm doing nothing but chicken broth and water.

now I'm all hungry for french fries and can't even eat anything but well you tend to be a man of extremes when it because like my metabolism I pretty much eat what I want but I'm good for a while I'm more active yeah so to me these people who are dieting it's not so much what goes in it's what's going out my problem is on the metabolism scale unfortunately for me and Willie we took more of mom's genetic makeup. We didn't get dads, which you did, which in this case was a great blessing, because we tend to go the squattie body. The squatty body Cajun.

And I never had to worry about it until I got older because, as you said, I was active enough where I stayed ahead of it. Now I've gotten older, even if I'm active, it ain't going nowhere. So I have to combine diet and exercise to not have a heart attack, which stinks, but it is what it is. I mean, you get older is what you got to do. You've got to create games. You know, I race my dog every day.

He always wins. But it's just, why not? I let him out, and he sits over there because he knows what I'm on day. And I take off because he won't go to front of the house. He poops in the same places. So I try to outrun him every day. Then when I get the food, it's a race back to the pen. Because it's one way to get him in the pen without any problem, because it's a race.

So I run. He wins. I mean, I've only beat him one time, and the only reason is when... What's that dog's thing? Biggin. Biggin. The only reason I beat him the one... So you're going to try Biggin again this year?

Well, yeah. You know what we've been doing? I hadn't told you. Jay came up with this. You know, Jay was our last guest. Jay had a good idea. I have to admit. I have a little...

I have a pond behind. You sound surprised when you said that. This was a good idea. I didn't think it worked until he filmed it and showed it to me while I was in Montana. I have a little deck on my pond, and he said, I think what we are to do, because he's a whiner. He gets so excited. He said, it looks like a duck blind because it has little railings, and he said, I'm going to sit in a chair. Because since I was out of town, Jay was feeding my dog.

So before he would give him the food, he just goes down and sits on that deck. And he got a ball in his hand or his dummy. And at first he's, but he's. but he just said nope nope and so after a while you know he just he finally calmed down he just they're just sitting there of course this is what you do and you don't have anything else to do which jay qualifies and so once he's perfectly calm he then sends the dummy out and he goes and he sits there do it again he's just because that's the way he is in the dope line when he get started. So Jay's trying to teach him there's a certain amount of waiting and you're not

getting anything until you're quiet for extended period of time. So since I've gotten back, I've been doing it every day. Same thing. It's working. Well, it's a shorter, the whining is getting shorter. You know, yesterday he, I mean, maybe the first four or five seconds. Then we sat there for 20 minutes. Then when he come back, he sat down quiet. Oh, I threw it again. I was simulating the eye, boom, my shot, you know. Get on me again. That's what I'm talking on.

It'll be interesting to see if it works. So we'll see if that. I looked back at Blues Papers, and he's eight as of about April. He looks 12. Yeah, he's eight. He's lived a hard, fast life. He's got whiskers. His whiskers are gray, but he's now eight years old.

so I don't know in human years I don't know about what eight is they always say it's time seven so it'd be 56 he's about my age if he would lose his voice it'd be perfect yeah but I notice now there's none of that

there's no barking whining nothing he's just sitting down I notice he doesn't bark when you pull up anymore at all maybe he'll stop whining then for our new viewers I've had a problem Mimi Mimi's the little yellow one I got now oh you got a new doll

Yep, she's in training school. Does she whine? No. No, no, she's not like old blue. The last couple of females you had were much more reserved. They tend to be a little lower key. We'll see how she turns out. But we use big and blue and her.

We'll just take a few and work them out a little bit and see how they turn out. I like biggin. I mean, I like you. And I think this may work. because he did pretty good last year yeah he got better and better so if we could just get him to not whine yeah because we've had we dealt with whining for a few years and and vocal issue whining is not good especially when you're blowing a duck call you don't want your dog yelping while you're blowing a duck call it defeats the whole purpose yeah kind of kind you know bang

bang bang bang boo it just does it's not good for the blind but it's not good for the ducks either so i'm so sports starved now because that's the And the worst thing to me about this whole pandemic is no sports. I mean, they just kind of started playing some stuff again. But so they said they were going to announce the SEC football schedule. Yeah, I know. But here's how, here's how sports. When I heard that, it's all on the internet or something.

So they were like, they're going to announce it at 6 o'clock on SEC network. I'm literally sitting there at 545, like anticipating like I'm watching the Super Bowl or something. I mean, that's how much I could not wait. Well, I just waited until 6. I know. I couldn't. I was so excited to see that. So I was thinking about that with football,

which hopefully it will happen. I don't know. There's some conferences not playing. Well, hey, you know, when they have that commercial about the SEC and it says it just means more? I thought, I guess it does.

Well, and the Big 12 was the, I will say, the Big 12 was kind of the tipping point because when they committed, then it was like, well, ACC, SEC, SEC, Big 12, we can have a season.

I mean, we can make it happen. See, I thought when they committed, I thought, well, now we've got somebody to whip. That's right. Do you realize the amount of money that these various players, right or wrong, standing, kneeling, acting a fool, whatever? But you add all that up and you say, with all the money on the line, and if I was like a player in the NFL, I mean, you're bringing the country together to watch them participate in the sport. Actually, get your mind off of everything.

Why would you make that a political issue? Why would you do that? Well, it's a bad idea. I mean, you're right. Sports is the one thing that traditionally has been outside of politics, which is what you want. I mean, that way you can pull it again. You can be sitting next to the- They're jeopardizing all these million, millions of dollars contracts.

I mean, they're doing it to themselves. I don't get it. I don't either. And that's another reason why I dad, I like that I'm more of a college fan than a pro fan is because it's still a little bit more about the game. and the enjoyment of it and all that. Although I'm afraid they're going to go down the same road and do the same kind of stuff,

which would be really unfortunate. Because, you know, I noticed they're putting like a patch. They get like... Yeah, they're letting them have some kind of statement. But you know what bothers me about that, Jace? Because Tebow, who's a friend of yours and a friend of us, you know, he put John 316 on his eyepatch. And they were like, nope.

NCA said, nope, we're not doing that. We're not doing Bible verses. And then they said, well, it's, well, they said, It's not the Bible verse. We just don't know where this will leave. That's right. But now we're going to come back in with two patches. Eternity.

What? Yeah, that's a great thought, which is what Tebow wanted to do, you know. So some dude believes in Jesus and he puts the Bible verse under his eye. That won't go. And somebody cares about that? Well, they say we can't do that. Like Jay said, because we don't know whether there's a leave. That's what I'm saying. That's an issue.

It's an issue. And so with all of the stuff I see tatted on various individuals, I would think the face paint that you could wipe off, John 316, that tells you. Is that even been 10 years? What that tells you, there is a devil and he is alive. Because less than 10 years later, now we're going to sew a patch on for whatever our social justice causes. That's where it led. And now it's just, you know, but it's so hypocritical.

That's what I'm saying. I hope a bunch of them put Bible verse. Let's take another break. I mean, I'm all for social justice. Me too. I mean, so is God. Right. It's not like he's representing something that's anti-people.

God so love the world. Yeah. Which is John 316. And everybody in it. Which means every life matters in the world to God and to us. So you can't just this time of divide. I've been preaching that before that became a thing. Me too.

I mean, that's what I'm saying. So the reason I brought that up is because one of our listeners asked a question about football, and we love football. And so he wants to know our opinion about the play of Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes. And then he asked specifically for Phil's opinion of his future as a player and his character. Well, here you go, Phil. Well, start with this. I could take a step, just take a step,

whether I was running up to the line and throwing it or whether I just took a step and threw it. I was good for about 65 yards in the air. Mahomes can take a step and throw it 80. Yeah. You're standing on the end zone. And I don't think he's that big. You're standing on the go line.

I think he's bigger. He's standing on the go line, and the ball hits down there on the 20-yard line. Yeah. That's a gun. Yeah. Therefore, he moves quickly. It seems that he has a fear of God in his heart, which is always good. Yeah.

And I would say, barring a severe injury, which is possible. Yeah. I would say he will glean if they all come together and play football and get off all that's crap they into, these political stuff, if they're quitting. ranking with each other. They all can come out multi-millionaires. They'd have a lot of fun doing it. And I think my home, the sky is the limit.

He's... Have you ever seen that guy? He has the tools to get it done. Al's like, I don't know. He's not that big. He's 63-T30. Oh, well, I guess he is. Which is about what you are.

Not 2-30. 6-4-220. That's about 175. 6-6-3-175. Yeah. I'm back down to my playing weight right now, shifted around, tearing out muscles, you know. You know, that old guy, that one, when I tore that one up, he's like, well, we could fix it about 20 minutes, you know, with surgery.

He said, but is it bothering you too much? I said, it's not bothering me at all. It just got a different shape to it. I said, you know, I can tell stuff had turned loose from the bone. He said, I'd ride it out. It was funny. So in the woods last year, I think it was, Dad. We thought it would be a good idea. I think it was a Super Bowl was about to happen. So the guys were like, let's do a football episode with Dad. We'll get out in the yard. you know, throw the ball a little bit. So you did. You got out there, I don't know who else was on the episode, for in the woods.

You threw a few just kind of soft toss. And then you had to live like shoulder, the physical therapy guy to work on your shoulder for like a week. Oh, yeah. Just from like four or five tosses out. It ain't the old days, is it? Oh, yeah. So, but you're born with that.

He was born with that particular skill set, moving around and a good arm. You can't teach someone how to do that. Tebow, he came back to a fox. He came back too far. In other words, this cost him too much time in the NFL. He'd come way back. He could do it in college.

While he's coming way back, the gap's closing on you. You have to keep the ball. And, you know, that's... Their windows are like this. Mahomes, it's like this. He's looking over here, choo. I mean, he has good peripheral vision, to put it mildly. I never seen a guy that had as many arm angles as he does to get rid of the ball.

And still... I remember when he played against LSU, I mean, I thought this guy is a freaking nature. I mean, we won because he played for Texas Tech. No, you know, I'm not hating on Texas. No offense. Some of his family, they go to Texas Tech. Of course, always, when I see him, I'm like, sorry to hear that.

But just on my football. That's right. But, you know, he put on a show even in that game that they lost. Yeah. But he's an incredible. I'm with you. Was that a bowl game? must have been a bow game.

I think we played them during the regular season. I don't think so. That had to be a ball game. Somebody of a fan of tell us. We strapped them. I'm excited for the Chiefs because, you know, they took Clyde Edwards Haleer in the first round. I'm always, I like these stories when they say a guy's too small and he's never. I mean, he was at LSU.

He really didn't get a lot of fanfare. That guy, I mean, everybody talks about Joe Burrow. We love Joe Burrow. Oh, yeah. Awesome. Clyde Edwards. layer pound from a pound. I mean, even an Alabama game.

He's the reason we won the Alabama game. He's this tall and he was running over, through, dragging people that were twice as his size. I mean, go back and watch that film. I was literally, I got so fired up watching him during that game. I would get up and just, I like seeing a man. What did you do when he took that one step and then did that spin move? And, I mean, that was one of the most amazing. He did that little, you know.

And, you know, he was at LSU. I think maybe once the coronavirus thing calms down, they get the vaccine going and all that, it's a thing of the past. That's coming up pretty quick. When that's all pices, maybe these sports organizations will just kind of get together and say, look,

I mean, we're performing in front of the country. We need to be a little bit more accepting of people who don't necessarily have the same ideas. All right. I even saw some of the Chiefs fans that thought that was a bad idea. I'm like, look, this guy, he was the heart and soul of our team. He was. And, you know, you remember the story that happened a couple years ago.

He's at LSU, and he orders something online or something and goes and meet somebody to get it, which, look, I don't know about that. But, and the guy tries to rob him, you know, and pulls a gun on him. Of course, he, you know, Louisiana, we have guns. And he had one legally and shot the guy. And then the next week he was out. because they completely cleared him. And, I mean, he was self-defense. And he was out there, you know, practicing with the team next week, you know.

And I'm, because I just remember. Which shows you how tough he was. Well, yeah, he was running over people. And I was like, he just shot a man. This guy's, I mean, they're like, oh, this little guy, he's not scared. And, you know, I was probably embellished in that blowing it out of proportion. But it was completely justified. And he did it.

You're right. But I'm like, this. guy's got some heart and he's got some toughness. So I'm excited about that combo. And I agree with it. Well, I think that handles it with him. Let's take a quick break and then we'll answer another question. So there were several questions that we got that. I thought were really good. And I was going to ask you this one, Dad, because I get this a lot from people because they know that, you know, we voted for Trump and we've been pretty open about why. but so I get this a lot from people in the evangelical world is that how do you support Trump

when he's so immoral is the question and usually I mean let's face it Trump we know his history he's a very public figure and he has had some terrible things he's done in his life and he's you know the whole country knows about so the question is how do you how do you vote for a guy or support a guy or tell people to vote for a guy who has been immoral so what would you say We covered this earlier in the podcast. John chapter 4, Jesus sees a woman at the well, and he says to her, he said, call your husband and come back. I have no husband, she replied.

And Jesus said to her, you're right when you say you have no husband. The fact is, you have had five husbands. and the man you now have is not your husband. What you've said is quite true. Yeah, you've, so here's a woman. She's been married five times. A man she's married, she's shacked up with him at the time. And Jesus picks her in order to get some converts in a particular town there.

And she goes into town, and she starts giving her testimony about Jesus. My point is, if we're the man who wrote most of this New Testament here, these are his words, not mine. You say, what did this guy do? You're saying, well, Donald Trump, this guy says here is so immoral. I don't know about the is right now, but I know in his past, he's pretty clear that he was a very sinful man. so was I. So here's the Apostle Paul. I persecuted the followers of this way, Christians, to their death.

Here's a murderer, arresting both men and women and throwing them into prison for no reason, except they said we believe in Jesus. This guy says, I persecuted them to their death. I threw them into prison. He said, and all these people can testify about how bad I was. So here's the point. He wrote most of the New Testament, the Apostle Paul. He said about himself, let's see, at another place to show how sinful some people can be

and God will still use them. Even though I was once a blasphemer, a persecutor, he mentioned that in the one I just read, and a violent man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief. Well, that's where Donald Trump was in his past life. But I know this. I know this when I ran into him. If you're wondering here, whatever this guy's name is, if you're wondering why we preach the gospel to them,

because add up all your sins, dude, before you add up Trump's. your own sins up and you're like hmm whoever keeps the whole law but just stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it what's the diff so yes Neil Cabuto asked you that same question sure sure sure and you said Neil you're ever seeing yeah he was like you're talking to me I said how many sins have you ever committed if you're wondering why we vote for Trump because he's I said oh you're looking for people who are not sinful to be on to go to Washington DC the house the Senate, the presidency, you're looking for men who've never made a mistake because the deal is now? How would you have a preacher?

How would you even have a preacher? I mean, a lot of preachers, I'd say more than half probably, have horrible stories. That's right. And past. Most of them, that's what happened. They got motivated coming out of a bad life and then became like, just like Paul. Then I just look at what they do. But look, to be fair on the other side, I mean, once Obama,

got elected, I didn't agree with most of his policies, but I wasn't running around in the streets. You know, with Siam, he's the president. Yeah. And I'm an American citizen. And that's what we're going with. In fact, I suffered through it with all the rest of us. I wouldn't even say that. I just, I just.

Well, in fact, let me just add to that, Jay. I used to say this about Obama, especially some of the presidents we've had in the past. I love the fact that he was married to the same woman. He had two daughters. he had a family. I mean, there were a lot of... That was the point I was going to say. There were a lot of good qualities.

He didn't have that kind of baggage with his... But you can always pick something about everybody, which is what people who deny any kind of godly presence. Because look, you got to give the president Trump credit for this. He has really been an advocate for people of faith over and over again. So to answer being... The most in our lifetime. To answer Ben's final little question.

Don't blame that on Ben. Well, it says from Ben. No, it's on the next page. Oh, the other being. So whoever the guy is, you're wondering why we vote for Trump because he's a sinful man. Here is a trustworthy saying, my man, that deserves full acceptance. Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners. Donald Trump, myself, and you, dude, of whom I am the worst.

this guy said, look, I was the sorriest lowdown sinner. I killed Christian people for no reason. He killed a preacher. Sure. He says, I'm the worst. But for that very reason, he was so sinful. And he was allowed to write most of these letters, including what I'm reading. He said, for that reason, I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his unlimited.

patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life. Now to the king, eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God be glory, honor and glory forever and ever. Amen. I'm just saying you say, as the kingdom of God's people, we try to elect godly men, but while the president, the current president, Donald Trump, was running, he invited me to talk to him. And I'm like, so I will tell you, dude, you say, well, how long did it take you to point him to Jesus? About 30 seconds into the conversation, I said, whatever happens. And I showed him what Jesus has done for him at all the rest of the world.

Jesus died for you, Trump. I said, you do have sins. He said, oh, yeah, I knew he was honest. Faith comes from hearing the message. He listened intently when I talked about Jesus. died on the cross for Donald Trump, along with everybody else, was buried in a tomb and raised from the dead. I said, Donald, you're going into a six-foot hole.

The guy that asked this question here, he's going into a six-foot hole. You say, we're all sinners. That's why Jesus died. Therefore, we just point people to Jesus, whether it's the president of the United States. That's a homeless guy sleeping under a bridge. They're all the same to us. That's why I don't watch the news. It's like people don't give them the benefit of the doubt,

People have their narrative of what they think, and then no matter what happens, they defend it. I don't do that. Yeah, and I think that's a good way to do it. So let's take one last break. So one of the things is you talked about what Trump has done for evangelicals and the Christian community and believers. You know, it's funny because the first thing he did, when he picked his running mate, he picked one of the godless men in government. Good move.

In Mike Pence. So that shows you right there, he understood something. about the importance of still having the importance of Godliness around him because I met Pence and he had a good conversation with him and his wife and they're amazing. I mean, they're hard core Christian believers. And he told me the same thing. You know, he said, because we talked about it. He was like, you know, a lot of people are like, why are you on the ticket with Trump? At that point, especially, you know, when he was running. Say what you will. Acumen, A-C-U-M-E-N. You said, what about Trump's acumen, stack it up with somebody like?

Joe Biden. Acumen is keenness and quickness in understanding and dealing with a situation. Mental acuteness. So I have labeled one Donald J. Trump as caustically brigant. Yep. He has an incredible mind. His acumen is at first rate way higher than mine. I'll tell you that. So the bottom line is I pointed him to Jesus, which is my job. He listened carefully. I believe he accepted Jesus. I really do. Now, I call up there, you know, on the telephone, he calls me up.

I said, they baptized you yet? And he said, no, but I need to do that, don't I? And I said, you need to do that as quickly as possible. Bill's conversation. Inquiry minds one of us. It is funny that that's probably the only person. You were there, I was there. I heard it.

It's exactly what he did. we were driving in a car and he's talking the president i can hear it the president talking well the other side will say that well the only reason he did all that is he's trying to get your votes and uh but i'm like well even if that's true that will work with that works with me that's exactly if you're open we're not mine readers yeah if you're if you're open to uh you know just using common sense when it's protective religious liberties sticking up for the unborn yeah exactly he could have easily said He could have easily said, get that Bible out of my face.

Who is this guy? But I knew he wasn't going to do that or he wouldn't have invited me. What's interesting is, Dad, you did that the first time you met him. Well, actually the second, because we had shaken hands with him at that rally and watched him. But the first time you got to talk to him. Yep. That's what you did. And yet he's made two attempts since then to talk to you more.

That is correct. That tells you right there. What is such a false narrative out there? Look, we can only speak from our experience. But our, because I, you know, I'm more friends with Don Jr. Don Jr. But you got to get Don Jr. on our podcast.

You would not, hey, I said, I know he's busy. He wrote a book. When the campaign's over, when the campaign's over, we're going to be,

it's like, oh, we're trying to run an election here, Jay. Okay. That's true. I'm like, why would you be on our podcast?

We're running for president. Yeah. All right. We'll get back with you later. But what I was going to say is one of the things that I had, unfortunately, just formed an opinion on. Because that's like,

when I see a question like that, I'm thinking you've already formed an opinion based on what you've heard and based on what you think, which I try not to do that about anything. But you wouldn't think that Mr. Trump would be very open just based on how he's presented. And same thing, you know, I was shocked at how open Don Jr. was to what I had to say about the Bible, about religion. He would ask a question, and he literally would sit there and listen and ask questions. And you had the same experience with the president. And I was just said, all we can do is based on our experience. My experience, they were sitting there like,

very open, listening to what we had to say about the Bible, about religion, about what needs to be done in the country that would be helpful. Because you talked about hunting and everything would have done. He was asking me, like, what do you think about? these hunting, you know, the sanctuaries and what's weird, I think I shared this last time. I basically told him, I was like, they have millions of acres. They as in you now controlling it. I was like, you have so much that you're kind of hurting hunting because these animals are smart. They're just like, if we just stay right here, we don't even have to be wild. And they lose their

wildness. Which actually hurts them in the long run too. So I said, why don't you just, I'm not asking to go out there and hunt it. I'm just saying make it open to hunting for maybe veterans or people with special needs. And they did that. And they did it. Took three years. I'm like, welcome to the government. And I'm not sure they did it because I said it.

Jason, you are driving policy in America. How do you feel like that? But you know what? Look, to be fair, because I don't want you to think we're down here and they're listening and saying yes. I mean, they listen. They're not telling us every day. Look, we got on poker.

I brought it up. I said, look, y'all have. poker because now it's illegal in America to to play poker online and I said I'm not a gambler he's like well I thought you played poker I was like oh there's a difference and y'all heard we've had it oh we've heard this I don't I wouldn't go to a casino and play blackjack because the odds are not my favor I'm not a gambler because the casino was built on people playing black yeah which is look now if you want to do it for entertainment purposes I find no problem with it you know but if you've lost your house and your job

because of it. Oh, that's sinful behavior. That's just dumb. That's right. And so I told him, I was like, I gave my speech.

I said, look, here's what I think you are to do. I said, open online poker backup because it's, it's a game of skill. I said, there's luck involved.

And he was like, no, I think too many people have a problem with it and they lose their money. And so, no. And I was thinking, can we keep talking about it?

Or, you know, he just disagreed. He said, I think it leads. He actually took the religious side of it. He was like, you know, not, not, we're not doing that. And I was like, but I really disagree with that.

I think, now there it is open, I think, in three states or whatever. But, uh, okay, he didn't like that idea. And it went nowhere. And guess what? You still can't do it online. And I'm sure I've offended half the religious people who listen. Oh, yeah. I get the emails every time you talking about it.

If you don't understand the game, I walk, into a casino, if I play a card game with nine other people, I've created my own odds here. I don't have to beat the odds. I don't have to. I'm not gambling. I've just got to beat these nine people. You know, that's it. We're playing a game.

And what I've noticed about poker, which is my point about gambling, the same people win every year. Go look up the poker tours. It's the same guys. Why, are they just that lucky? Even me and my experience, how come I keep winning? You know? That's right. And I've had people who don't understand the game said, well, I'll play with you.

And guess what? They lose. What's interesting is I've never played a game of poker. Yeah. I would lose. Well, I'm going to give you a tip. I played one or two and I lost and I quit. And I'm not.

People say, well, you're being cocky. Nope, I'm just telling you there's skill involved in the better players win. If we play Phil. I've never found the Bible verse that condemned it. If we play a game of football. poker, you will lose. It's just a fact. So why do the religious people you said condemn it?

I've never read the verse that condemns it. Because, well, because I think they look at the problems. Yeah, that happen. And there are people, it's the same thing with drinking to me, the same thing. You never get drunk if you never take it back. You have to look after your family and you gamble it away and your house is gone. Which is wrong. Yeah.

And it's sinful. Right. But when you put something in a category that you know, nothing about, there's where they messed up. They don't know anything about it. They just assume, since it's done in a casino, that it's gambling. Not true. It is a game of skill where there is some luck involved, but you could go down a road

here with that, like, well, that means you can't fish in a bass tournament. Why? Because there's a little luck involved on how big your bass is that you catch. But if we do it for a year, guess what? The best bass fishermen are going to win. You're going to rise to the time? Well, ain't nobody trying to shut down the bass to her. You know what?

And there's money involved. There's money involved. A big money. What are we playing bingo for? Guess what? I wouldn't play bingo. You know why? That's gambling.

I'm not a gambler. Now, do I think it's wrong? No, but I personally wouldn't do it. You could get it down to horse racing, car racing. You could just go on and on and on. That's what I have. Racing is gambling. You know, I'm sad.

We have a game here that skillful people play, especially analytical. You know, y'all know me. I play in games where I like to know what everybody has without them turning their cards over. So in this game, there's a lot of things about math and money management and patience and perseverance that comes into play. But where you become successful is that you're watching people. And just by human nature, they give their tendencies and it gives their handle. way based on the circumstances.

Jason, you're a guy and you, we make a joke out of it, but it's really not a joke, that you in the stock market, you're taking your money and putting it here and you take some more money and put it there. You are gambling. Well, no, I'm going to say this. Is it gambling when you said? I would say, I wouldn't qualify it as gambling, but I would say this. It is more gambling.

There's more luck involved. then playing poker. Unless your uncle sigh, and then it's maybe something. But it's a fair point. But it's the same thing. If you put the work in, you do the research, it's still the hardest working, skillful people that don't give in to fear and greed to use that.

Are the people going to win? The same thing happens when you're playing cards. If people are trying to be greedy or they're scared to lose, or you're using those basic human nature fundamentals to put your formula into action, which is built on discipline, perseverance, you know, knowing people. Yeah, that's what it is. But I was just saying that we were talking about

in answering that question, it wasn't like they were telling me what I wanted to hear. He categorically disagreed with me about that. Right. I mean, and I'm like, okay, you're wrong, but I respect that. That's right. But when it came to someone. It wasn't like he's just trying to win you over.

Oh, no. He immediately said there's a lot of people that have a problem with that, and I would never, now this is the son, but he's like, I would never try to get that back going. I mean, they agree that that needs to be outlawed. I was like, oh, I disagree with that, you legalist, but no, I didn't say. So we're out of time. Thanks for checking it out today on the podcast. Don't forget about Jesus politics.

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