Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 134 | Phil's DIY Mask Secret, Jase's Lowbrow Humor, and the Sleep of Lazarus

Episode Date: August 26, 2020

Phil takes his semi-annual trip to "the blood man" and discloses his DIY mask technique. Jase teaches Phil the meaning of lowbrow humor with a story that made Missy cringe and explains why John 11 is ...life-changing. Al shares his medical misery and talks about Karens and when fear turns into anger. And the guys begin a discussion of Lazarus. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? I have so many conversations with my mom. She's just talking, and I'm working, and she's going over here, wide open, and all she needs for me about every 10 minutes is a, hmm, or just an acknowledgement because 10 minutes goes. I got to why I just cut her off and shut her down. I just let her go, and I'm working, doing my own stuff.
Starting point is 00:00:26 You know, it's no big deal. I think some of it's guilt. You know, I told her, I told her what. stock to buy because she's like well how come you're not sharing your stock here's one here's one buy this right now and you'll make a lot of money well she never did guess what if she'd have bought it a month ago whatever she put in she'd have twice as much but didn't happen didn't happen so she feels guilty and she's like oh he just you know it's somehow another that's my fault you didn't pull the trigger
Starting point is 00:00:59 I said here, right here, call them up. That's my mom. She's out and so mom is in, so dad, you had an appearance. You went to North Carolina. Yep. With the, with the Graham. Tell us about that. Because mom stayed, you know, she didn't come back with you, which is classic mom.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Some of the finest people on the earth, I would say. Where were you at? The Graham crowd. He was at the Billy Graham Library. Was it the Library? You spoke? I spoke. It was like a virtual event.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Did people have, oh. I mean, there were some people there. I didn't even realize that they were feminine. Then I was, I thought I was talking to about 400, me not being a computer person. I said, well, I got a good crowd here. But I didn't realize there was 140 something thousand that clicked on. You know, I'm not a computer man. So I don't know who I'm talking to.
Starting point is 00:01:56 I just thought there's a little crowd of guys who were wearing a lot. Carolina. But I'm glad now they didn't say, now remember you're speaking to, you know, you're getting up there about, you know, toward a quarter of a million people here. Would it have mattered? No. Would it have changed anything you said? No. But see, I don't think it's just because you're not a computer man, because I did, I had an event, my first one with real people since the coronavirus. I was in Longview, Texas.
Starting point is 00:02:27 and I think the governor put a limit of 200 people because that's about how many it were there but they had asked me if they could stream it to more because they were like this thing sold out in a week typically we don't allow that because you're trying to get people to an event but with this crazy corona yeah and you don't you know not to say
Starting point is 00:02:56 people would be up to mischief, but sometimes they'll say, we'll stream it. But then they're just taping it and they try to do whatever. I've trained myself to presenting things from the Bible, whether there's two sitting there, one, two, or three, or three million. I've just trained myself to speak the word of God with equal enthusiasm. whether it's large or small. Your message really doesn't change based on the... On how many.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Yeah, me. Listen to me. Ten, okay, great. Let's go with it. But it's the same. I mean, I'm as fired up talking to the ten as I am. Or the one. Or the one.
Starting point is 00:03:45 You're just sharing with them. I was as excited. And they were, the energy, because this was an all men's event, the energy in there was spectacular. because everybody wanted to you know everybody misses getting together right and so because I kind of looked around and thought this is weird because it was this a lot of people no mask yeah now we you know I don't know I when I had my mask in my hand when I was walked in I thought I don't guess we're wearing masks you might could do you might could work in what I've done see no matter where you go now I walked up there the day you know I walked up there the day you know I was To the doctor? To the doctor. They, you know, I give blood.
Starting point is 00:04:29 They take blood out of me. I got too much blood, they say. So I give them a pint or two. So about every six, eight months, I go over there and say, I get a pint. Do they give you money for the blood? They can't sell this kind of blood. They discard it. In Europe, they can sell it, so I'd be making a little money there.
Starting point is 00:04:46 But over here in the States, they don't give people. Wait a minute. How do you know that? How do you know that about? Well, it's like I said, who's to say, how much blood? I'm supposed to have. And the guy, the oncology guy, he said, research. I said, correct me if I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:05:03 People in the Himalayas and the Eskimos, they have more blood than we do, more blood in their bodies. Because it's colder? Colder, higher altitude. And I told him, man, he said. Well, how did you get that, this is the hottest place on the earth? And the flattest place. Well, what he said when I said, Eskimos have more blood than normal people. And Himalayas people live in the Himalayas.
Starting point is 00:05:27 I said, so who's the same? He said, your problem is you're not an Eskimo and you don't live in the Himalayas. I said, it's a fair point. I said, well, what about this? A little gasoline engine has smaller, the dipstick is not as tall. I said, there's not as much oil
Starting point is 00:05:46 because it's a small motor. I said, a little gasoline motor, see? I said, you got that, but then you have diesel motors. What if I'm kind of like a diesel. motor that has more oil, I have more blood than a smaller engine. And he's looking at me, you know, and he said, it doesn't work like that. So I couldn't. I think that makes perfect sense to me.
Starting point is 00:06:07 That's why you two are not doctor. I would love to hear this guy's conversation about what dad tells. Wait a minute now. When did this come on where you have too much, how do you find out that you have too much blood? I had a kidney stone. And during the process of tracking down the kidney stone, the guy said, said, you have too much blood. I said, do what? Do you see this on a graph?
Starting point is 00:06:28 I said, who came up with how much you're supposed to have? I said, what is it? Like an oil level in a car? Everybody's supposed to have the same amount. It's because it's too many red blood cells, so it thickens it. So the problem is for dad, when Wayne discovered it, and that's why he sent with the oncologist, it increases your chance of stroke and heart attack by about 40%
Starting point is 00:06:48 because you got way thicker. Actually, it's 13%. Oh, is that what it is? 13? 13%. I said, 13%. That's not much. I said, 87% of them, good to go, with too much blood.
Starting point is 00:07:02 So I finally got down to, you're trying to tell me that a 500-pound man and a 90-pound girl, they're supposed to have the same amount of blood? I said, I'm not getting it. Are they supposed to have the same? But the bottom line was, he just said, well, it is a slightly higher risk of a stroke if you have too much blood. That's the only thing we know. I said...
Starting point is 00:07:25 They've been taking blood out. They just been taking it out. I know we're not... So, wait a minute. They say, you're sitting on about 50. I'm like, what's it supposed to be? He said, 45. I'm like...
Starting point is 00:07:37 Close or not. I said, if you take out... That's what I was thinking. I said, so if you take out a pint, how much does it go down? He said, you get down at about 47. And he said, I tell you what we do. We'll just take another pint
Starting point is 00:07:50 and that'll drop you below where you're supposed to be. There's like a number. I wouldn't do that. And in six months time, six months time, it would come back. Let's say you get in a fight and you get cut. It would actually take you longer to bleed to death than a normal person. I thought it was just more blood, more get up and go. I'm 74.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I'm like, well, I got a little extra blood there. Am I not right? Go that extra mouth. Wouldn't it? Well, I'm just telling you what the man said. I guess all human beings. And everybody's got a level that they're. they call 45.
Starting point is 00:08:27 I don't know, 45, whatever. He can use some big words on both sides of it. But here's what I can't figure out. If you're, if you go, they have a blood drive
Starting point is 00:08:35 at our church about once every couple months. Yep. And they pay you. I can't give that. No, you don't, they don't pay.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Oh, it's no. It's free. They give you a lot. Okay. You get a little, Debbie. You can pay if you give plasma
Starting point is 00:08:48 at the plasma place, but not just blood. They don't pay for that anymore? No, it's a donation. I can't give blood. You get a little. Didn't they used to?
Starting point is 00:08:57 What happened to the guy? I remember he said he gave blood because he was money? Well, you can give plasma. What's the difference in plasma? Well, plasma is the product in your blood that they take out. Your blood is made up. Plasma's in there. So they just totally screen that off.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Plasma has a lot of different. So you were telling about the mask. You lost your way there. So what was the, you started that story with something about a mask. You went to the doctor. When I walk in there, you know, they allow me after they watched when I would go in there with the people who are in there with all the social distance
Starting point is 00:09:34 and all this stuff they all want a lot of them want autographs and they were a celebrity you should have said social distance I would just I had to get in the odd thing so I get up in there so now I just walked through and they got a little room back in the clinic somewhere they went back in there so they sit me in a little room by myself right so the people are not coming up yeah yeah yeah you know it was COVID but she said you know you need to have a mask in here mr. Robinson and I just reached up I went I said I got on and she's she's just looking at me
Starting point is 00:10:09 so she said well okay and you've been wearing that for years so little did you know that you were the most prepared man on the planet it was right there your mask what I think here's what I think I'll go beyond that I think I'll go beyond that I think I think I think I think I think one of the attributes the positive things about a male is that he has the wearerthal see these think about it this this is a mask that's what I'm saying the coronavirus is blowing but look my my nose is pretty well covered it cause I don't ever trim it you know you say well it's hanging you can't even you barely can see my bottom live but you can't see my upper this is
Starting point is 00:10:55 my nose, it's catching things like microbes before they enter my nostrils and my mouth. I really believe it. It's really a catch-all. It's a catch-all. The problem is it may catch and hold, though. If somebody walked by and they had, you know, what droplets, but if those droplets hit on these whiskers, I mean, it just looked like to me, it's helping. I need to do so research.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I'd love to hear the science on that. How many people? I'm saying it's a barrier to a certain degree of. microbes and anything else I told you about the study I told you about the study that says I may be dead wrong your beards
Starting point is 00:11:33 are holding more microbes than a dog's coat but Al as long as they stay right here yeah but you touch it then you touch your nose or your eye or whatever and then there it goes how long is it going to stay there
Starting point is 00:11:49 the microbe forever? No it dies in about 30 minutes I think but I don't know yeah it's good it'd be dead. I don't know. I'm sure we're going to hear. All I know is I haven't caught the virus yet. Can we not see some.
Starting point is 00:12:02 And I have whiskers and I'm thinking, you know, maybe they say, we'll pull a mask down. But look, if you pull the mask down, you know, there's a lot of things microbes have to go through to go go through your mask. This is, to me, this is a mask. What if your mask, what if the mask you're putting on already contains microbes? Because people don't. They keep wearing the same mask. I am right. You really got to replace them and wash them and all.
Starting point is 00:12:28 I just look, I was my trip. I mean, I'm not a doctor. I'm just saying this seems in my mind this would help some. I agree with you. If you have a covering over your lips. I don't know. And I know it's a lot better with sun and winter. I do know this.
Starting point is 00:12:42 It's warmer in the winter. It's cooler in the summer. Well, obviously you're a proponent because you've had one for 40 years. Yeah. I mean. So the whole thing about. Some doctor may say. These some redneck idiot whiskers thinks that's going to help.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I just like to see the stats. How many people who had the coronavirus had a full, now I don't mean a little psychiatric beard. I would like to know these things. Or a starter beard. I had four hair sticking out. I'm talking about full developed beard. Well, you may be like a guy on the guy, co-commercial, whatever, that old guy now,
Starting point is 00:13:16 he was so proud. He had just a few sprigs, you know. Like most of his girls, whatever little sprigs they have, they pull them out. So they leave nothing. But he just said he was proud of his beard, and some guy was looking at him. He said, do you even know what a beard is? Because he had a little old yeah, yeah, growth about like that.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Is that what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. I haven't seen that. Where do you see this, Duff? He watches a lot of TV. Okay. So there's, yeah, and now, Dad, you guys wouldn't know this because you wouldn't be looking into these what's out there now.
Starting point is 00:13:50 But they've got whole, now companies that make these different kind of of shavers and they call it manscaping where they can get their hair down to just, you know, even just where it just comes out and keep it there. I mean, there's like a whole, they call it a beard, but I mean, I don't know, it's not even a hard of stuff. Well, we'll cover it when we get into John, John 11. If we ever get there. We'll get there. We'll get into John 11. I'll make some comments and you'll say, huh, I understand now where he's coming from as far as what happens. And I'll use biblical terminology here of what happens when this tent wears out, when this tent. Let's take a break.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And I want to tell you a little bit about my appearance because it really, to me, mine was a little bit different because I flew there. It was in downtown Nashville. And so my experience was different in the sense of kind of what's going on out there because, you know, there have been some, I think there's been like some spikes in Tennessee and Nashville in particular. The mayor of Nashville is like from the people that were there telling me that it's like big time crackdown. You have to have a mask on outside anywhere. You'll get fined. I mean, like there's people getting fined.
Starting point is 00:15:11 It's, you know, they're taking the super serious. I just read it myself to where I could just reach up and get the hat band. Right. Which probably wouldn't work where I was. But anyway, it was interesting because so we come in the events. I'm putting the mask on. They've already like prepared me. So we walk in.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Well, this room was supposed to hold about, they had 500 people supposed to be. there for this thing I was speaking at. So because of the mayor, their numbers now, they could only have 25 people in the room. I mean, it's a big huge room, about the size of our fellowship center or your place on Sunday. 25 people, and they're spread out at these little tables. There's like four people. But they're streaming it? They're streaming it.
Starting point is 00:15:48 So it's all going out. So it was a big celebration for the thing. So it was really weird because, oh, and your buddy was there doing the worship guy, you know, Gary Chapman. Really? Yeah. He said he knows you a Missy well. He does well. Yeah, so he did the worship for it.
Starting point is 00:16:03 He did like three songs. He's awesome. Yeah, he's a great guy. So his wife is my metal detecting treasure expert. Is she a singer too? She sings. Oh, okay. I just didn't know it because her name looked familiar.
Starting point is 00:16:18 One night they were at our house and they started singing something. You know, Missy and that they just sounded like, you know, I thought, well, this is it. Jesus is coming back. It was beautiful. But then I was like, should I hum along? I was the odd man out. He did a song Saturday night. It was called What I Know. And it was a really good. He wrote it. And it was just about- This guy has produced multiple, multiple, you know, winners. Well, on all of our case, nearly, at least my case, we are baptized in a lot of of people, you know, like last, in the last 10 days, probably 75 or 80, and they just keep coming from here, there, and under, from all over the United States, wherever. So I'm at close
Starting point is 00:17:10 contact with human beings then, but I found myself in a position where I haven't been to, like, a restaurant, a local restaurant, a Walmart, a sporting goods store, or no shop. I don't, I don't do those because there's, it's always a restaurant. It's always a restaurant. I don't, always a little disruption. Well, that's what I was telling you. So this whole situation this weekend, first just flying there, because now you've got to have a mask on the whole time in the airport, over your nose and mouth. I mean, people come by, you know, pull it up.
Starting point is 00:17:41 I mean, I don't go anywhere, so I don't need that. So then I get there the other day coming home and they're like, oh, now that mask is unacceptable because it had a, so it just, what I'm saying is, it was a weird experience for me because the whole time I'm worried about the mask. I walk in. There's a guy there taking our temperature. when you walk in. There's only 25 of us there,
Starting point is 00:18:00 so everybody got their temperature. I guess that was part of the rule. So this guy's there, he's taking it by saying, okay, you're good to go, good to go. By the way, Al, you're on John chapter 11 about Lazarth, and I said I'll throw in a few verses there on that. But unfortunately, I think what's driving this whole thing about the mass and about the social distancing
Starting point is 00:18:21 and all these things they're talking about, you know what? It's what's driving it. Fear. Yeah. They're afraid. I mean, if they were children of the resurrection, I'm telling you, they would not be afraid. I agree. And it makes for a really...
Starting point is 00:18:35 They don't realize that, but I'm just looking at how they're behaving. They're scared to death. So we go in this thing, and people like are standing around talking, and, you know, you're trying to talk. You can't hear what somebody's saying. So finally, people just start dropping the mass so they can have a conversation. And then some, here comes some Karen, you know, some woman coming through. Everybody, you know, and then they get up and make an announcement. But I think about it, we got 25 people just standing around talking,
Starting point is 00:19:01 then they get up and make an announcement. You know, everybody's got to put your mind. When I'm with the brothers, look, they walk up to me, and here's the way it sounds. Of course, you think about it, I'm my hearing gunfire, so much gunfire for the last 50, 60 years, shotguns, boom, boom, boom, bow, blah, boom, bow, bow, blah, we're wearing protection and all that, but still.
Starting point is 00:19:21 But they come up, and here's what it sounds like to me. That's a, where it's right. I mean, I'm like, what? I mean, they're hard enough to hear, but when they go to muffles speaking through some claw, I'm like, you know, I don't even know what they're saying. Let me give you all a positive thing. I know this is low-brow humor, but I'm going to tell you what happened. We went to Montana, and when I fly on a plane, because I want to try to give something positive over the mask.
Starting point is 00:19:52 All right. I found one thing. Bad experience. Explain one little statement. Low brow. Okay. I'm giving you what happened. What did you say?
Starting point is 00:20:01 Low brow humor. Low brow humor. I'm going to give you some low brow humor. As opposed to highbrow. I'm just trying to, I'm trying to figure out. Once you hear the punch line, you will understand. But we've gone down this road and I'm going down it right now, made a decision. When I fly on planes, I experience a lot of intestinal.
Starting point is 00:20:24 discomfort. Oh, boy. Nothing, nothing that makes me have to run to the bathroom. I just, I get, I get gassy. Yeah. And so. Is that the lowbrow humor? We're getting there.
Starting point is 00:20:36 All right. So we go to Montana. That's the introduction of lowbrow. We go to Montana. They said, okay, we get in the car. And I'm with my wife and kids, you know, I'm trying to be thoughtful. And we can't get into the house because the check-ins at four. Well, let's go to the grocery store.
Starting point is 00:20:52 So we're going down the aisle. I'm standing there with, you know, Mia, Missy, and Mia and Carina. And a pain hit me. And you're not on an airplane. No, but that's what caused. It created a bit of a bomb. And we all have a mask on, and I thought, well, wait a minute. Have you checked into your food intake and what type food you've been eating before you get on it?
Starting point is 00:21:18 It's the air pressure that does. At least it gets the same thing. look, I thought, wait a minute. She can't hold it on me. Now, here was my theory. People with the coronavirus, they can't smell or taste. Everybody else has a mask on. And I'm standing here in pain.
Starting point is 00:21:35 I said, you know what? This is perfect. And I was hoping it would be solid. But let me tell you, it was an aisle rattling. No mistake. Well, when I did it, everyone on that aisle looked at me, include my family and Missy drunk by red. It's just like you shot over their head.
Starting point is 00:21:58 So this guy who we don't know says, what'd you do, step on a duck? I said, well, that's a good thing about having masks. And the people who have the coronavirus can't smell it anyway. So we're good. The only one that laugh. So you just made a pronouncement only I. I've now have figured out what lowbrow here.
Starting point is 00:22:24 humor's all about. Now you get it, don't you? Yeah. I thought you would like that. That just happened. So now I've been thinking, you know what,
Starting point is 00:22:32 if I'm in a store or whatever, because now since that's happened and since I broke the ice, I ain't worried about it. Well, since we've gone there, since we're there at lowbrow, I want to give an update. So I mentioned last podcast
Starting point is 00:22:43 that I was going to have a colon scope, which I had done this last week. What did you see? Here's what happens. You forget how miserable that is. It was five years ago. No. I must have forgotten.
Starting point is 00:22:56 I didn't forget. Because you start at 5 p.m. You drink this stuff and then you drink some water right behind it. And within 15 minutes, what Jay's described, but way worse, because it's just, it's basically you're pooping water. Yeah. But I figured out what my problem is, because look. It's the only time you have bowel troubles when they say, we're going to look at your bowel. Al has just diagnosed what I think my problem is.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Because look, they said, you'll have 15 minutes. When I took a sip of that, I was like this in setting it down. And I did this. You grabbed the whole. I ran to the commode and literally elevated. The procedure probably is worse than whatever you want. All right. So let me give you a second.
Starting point is 00:23:49 So that would have been okay. So about about 10 o'clock, the cramping stops. And instead of being every 10 or 15 minutes, we're now about every 30 minutes. So I'm feeling a little bit better. I got to sleep. But the problem is at 1 a.m. I got to do it again. And that was the most miserable. So I laid down, took a little nap because I thought I'm up all night.
Starting point is 00:24:10 You can't sleep when you're doing this. You should have only done it one. I only did it one. Well, now they'd make you do it twice. So she had. But look, once you clean it out, it's late. Maybe I'm 74 and have not had the. procedure but Al you just reinforced something that once you get to be said in
Starting point is 00:24:26 before forget that procedure so I go in there and the last time I go I go when I get there and she said what was the last color I said oh no there is no color it's just water she said well that's good so they look in there no polyps a little bit of diverticulitis which is what mom has so I guess I'm going to have that at some point you know where they have a little patch on your recognize genetic oh yeah yeah everything bad I got from mom's unfortunately. I will say this. You know, we've basically been going through the book of John, and here we come to Chapter 11, and we're in the midst of the coronavirus.
Starting point is 00:25:02 That's why we're having these ridiculous conversations about masks and all that. And lowbrow, hang on, just let's take a break for you to jump in. I believe that. I believe God created us to be able to do that, and I think there's a, you have a sense of humor with that. You said that before. That's always funny. You know, these civilized people. So now, guess what?
Starting point is 00:25:30 No more cramping in the grocery store for Jace. But I will say this. In John 11, when, you know, here's Lazarus, the first verse, and it says, now, a man named Lazarus was sick. Now, we already know, because we know the end of the story, we know he was a believer and a follower but I think before we had talked about whether you know Christians get sick or you know
Starting point is 00:26:02 looking for stats on how many you know believing people I mean I got news for you Christians get sick and they die that's right and he was sick and Jesus didn't he didn't act like this was like a shock he said he you know he was from Bethany the Village of Mary, Sister Martha. This Mary, whose brother Lazarus, now lay sick, there it is again, was the same one who poured perfume on the Lord and wiped his feet with her hair, which that happens in the
Starting point is 00:26:32 next chapter. Right. Which I believe he was just saying this was such a known story, you know, as the Robert. I think it's possible that she was the woman in Luke 7. Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, you know, there's a debate. nobody knows for sure, but maybe she was the woman he's referring to that showed up at Simon's house. Well, in Luke 7, just for a minute, and I guess let me finish my point for a week,
Starting point is 00:27:01 because I think this is a greater point. But all I was going to say was in verse 4 when he heard this, Jesus said, this sickness will not end in death. No, it is for God's glory so that God's son may be glorified through it. And I was just going to make the point. People get sick. That's not anything shocking. I mean,
Starting point is 00:27:24 whether you believe, there's no this retribution like from John 9. It's not necessarily I did wrong. That's why I'm sick. Remember John 9, which is the point I was going to make for you and continue.
Starting point is 00:27:37 John 9, there's a man born blind, and they're like, well, whose fault is it? Jesus had every right in the world to support that kind of thinking, that because bad things are happening to you, that means you're bad. You did something. You're being punished.
Starting point is 00:27:50 They call it karma now. This happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. And then right here, he basically says about the same thing. Not that he died, but just, okay, he's sick. But guess what? Basically get the point, Jay, is that he delayed for that purpose. Yeah, that's right. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:07 He waited a couple more than. Later on in the chapter, he says, well, I'm glad I wasn't there. He says that in 14. Because Thomas was like, you know, well, if he's dead, let's go die with him. And what shows you, Thomas gets a bad rap because of being doubting top. But he was like, you know. This is it. If this is it, let's, here we go.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Well, remember that, and he said that because some of the disciples, when Jesus said they were going back to Judea, I mean, they're like, didn't they just try to kill you there? I mean, like, they're thinking, we can't go there, you know, and he's like, oh, yeah, we're going. Oh, and we say all that. Look, this chapter, if you were questioned, if you've been listening to this. podcast or you've been thinking just about life in general or your death if you just needed to if you read this chapter john chapter 11 when you wake up for the next seven days if you get up
Starting point is 00:29:04 and just go to john 11 and you read it i will guarantee you it will change your behavior and how you think moving forward because it reminds you of what we see people get sick well you don't have to be reminded to that now we're all in the paranoid fear some people are just like shaking when they're around you're like
Starting point is 00:29:30 you don't have a mask on oh and angry and the fear turns to anger I see people look at you you're not you know it's just like oh you're sorry a piece of trash you better get them I mean like you can see it in their eyes and a lot of people probably the people who would be getting upset
Starting point is 00:29:46 that they were having this conversation are not listening. But there might be one or two. You got to remember, nobody was doing this over the flu, and it's just as lethal as is my point. Now, granted, we're trying to do what we can to stop this, but this thing is like a roaring inferno. You remember. The only person I know who got it wore a mask all the time and was quarantined.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Completely. Yeah, I remember I go to the blood man to, take the blood twice a year. Yep. That's all, you know, every six, seven months, I go up, and say, well, we'll take a pint or no, you're good, and then I go on. So the only other time I'm in town for the last six or eight months, the only time I'm in town is on Sunday mornings with a group of brothers.
Starting point is 00:30:41 And that's only been a month. And that's only been a month because they shut that down. Right. Phil, you're around me. I was around 200 people. Well, that's what I'm saying. So we're back to your beer. I'm bumping in two very few people.
Starting point is 00:30:57 That's right. But it doesn't take but one. That's right. Or Dan picking it up at Sam's. You know, I mean, anything's possible. But I showered before I came out. So you're good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:07 But to Al's point about who this was, I mean, look, this is, I've studied this before because it is confusing. But what you got to remember, what we I think hopefully are different than other people who have Bible discussions, it's really not a big deal who this woman is compared to Luke 7. I personally don't believe it is. Luke 7, just for people who are not familiar with the Bible off the top of their head, this was a sinful woman, and she wiped Jesus' feet with her tears. Now, she did use some perfume also, but in this case, you know, Mary, she wasn't crying.
Starting point is 00:31:53 And they, it says down here, somewhere in here, that this was in preparation for his burial. Well, the Luke 7, the time frame doesn't measure up for me because that's early in the proceedings. But anyway, but that's, it's still possible that big worry matter. I'm not saying I'm 100%. Right, I got it. You just, you're not going to know this. Beyond the shadow of a doubt, because, and I think most scholars do agree, though, because I remember looking at this once in a former life, that in John 11, he is referring to her in John 12.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I think people do agree on that for the most part. He's just saying, like, this is the one, even though he hadn't said she wiped his feet with perfume, in the next chapter it starts off so it gets weird a lot of people reading the Bible they're like well wait a minute did that just this is one of those moments well and uh let's let's take another break and that's another thing about it is sometimes you get the gospels or or four different perspectives of the same thing that went on and so you know the timelines are a little sometimes different in one book than the other and the details are different right exactly and what i was going to make the point is what separates i hope our presentation is get the point I'm not
Starting point is 00:33:16 I'm not real concerned which one is who and making all of it fit. In Luke 7, he does make a good point where he says there was a Pharisee there. There's no mention of a Pharisee here, but there was a Pharisee. And he asked the Pharisee, those who have been forgiven much, love much. Yeah, which is one of my favorite verses about. Now, but some old boy sitting out there, so, well, does that mean I should, go out there and do a lot of cutting up so I can be forgiven a lot. And so, nope, that means you're an idiot.
Starting point is 00:33:53 That's the question that was in Roman 6. Here we go again. But he was just saying she's so thankful because, you know, the more evil stuff you do, the more baggage you have, the greater the chances that you're not going to come to Jesus. Because you're probably going to wind up in prison or dead. That's what happens to most of the way. Because it just, and, you know, there's another thought in here where Jesus, which is, nobody knows what it mean.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I mean, this chapter's filled with things that we can't really all agree on, on who is Mary the same one in Luke 7 and the, where's the other others? Like Matthew 26, I think. And the other thing is when, you know, we've already read that this sickness will not end in death, Jesus said. So it's like, in verse 5, it said, Jesus loved Martha and her sister. and Lazarus. Yet when he heard that Lazarus sit, he stayed there. I mean, he stayed where he was, two more days. He didn't immediately go.
Starting point is 00:34:55 So then he said to Saul, let's go back to Judea. They said, hey, they're going to stone you. So then he makes this comment about, in verse 9, Jesus answered, are there not 12 hours of daylight, which was in their world, the equivalent of a day? Right. And he says, a man who walks by day will not stumble, for he sees by this world's light.
Starting point is 00:35:16 It is when he walks by night that he stumbles for he has no light. And I just wanted to quickly say, you remember in the beginning of our study with John, we said there's three things that are going to continually come up. Jesus is life, he's love, and he's light. And he seems to bring those principles up in every circumstance. That's why I think it's the key to the book. Every context, you're right.
Starting point is 00:35:40 So then he says this. After it said this, he went on to tell them, Our friend Lazarus, I love that he said friend, has fallen asleep. And I'm going there to wake him up. His disciples said, well, Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better. Which tells you, you know, what's the doctor say? I know where you got it.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Maybe. You know, they always say, drink plenty of liquids. Yeah, get some rest. Right. That's biblical. Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep. So what I was going to say is people think,
Starting point is 00:36:17 what the heck is this? Why did he refer to it as sleeping? Which I've often thought, if God had not created us to sleep, I'm talking about in this life, I think our life expectancy would be cut in half. Oh yeah, you've got to have it. Because it's the only thing that can stop you,
Starting point is 00:36:37 just think the people outside of Jesus or people who just get involved in something. The only thing that really makes them come to their senses a little bit, is when they just collapse and pass out. Then they wake up and say, what the heck was that doing? Or when you're sick, you know, you think about it. When you were really sick with something, you got the flu or you got something, you know, you want to go sleep.
Starting point is 00:36:57 I mean, just, you know, the body needs that to then begin to repair itself, you know, so you were right. I mean, it was that idea that they recognized it. You know, it's pretty amazing that you even see the power of sleep in the animal world. Oh, yeah. know, the rank it, the most ravaging animals you can think of, you say at times you look over and they're like, sleeping. What department in Saltwater said, if we're going to make sure that the animal world and the
Starting point is 00:37:30 human beings that we're making out here, what department in Saltwater said, by the way, we'll fix it so they have to sleep to kind of rejuvenate their body. There's just no way. There's no way that way. We watch ducks do that because you'll be watching them, you know, and they'll have their head in the wing. They'll have their head under their wing, you know, and they're just out, you know, just sleeping it off, you know, it's sitting out there floating on the water.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Yep. You know, the whole time they're doing it, which is a bizarre. You just think about that, how bizarre that is. My little dog, you know, I was in South Texas with Jeff, Mrs. But she's self-contained. You know, we have a little doggy door. She's got her food and water. But when she saw me, she was so excited because, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:10 she's been by herself for four or five days. days. I mean, she had plenty of food and water. So she ran through the house. I videoed her, you know, and she owed it to them, Miss him, and they loud, just, just crazy. So she's still going to stay here? Yeah, she's here. I mean, well, she doesn't, speaking of upset stomach, she doesn't travel well. So she has to stay here. But we have another dog in South Texas, because Mrs. Grandma, who passed away from the effects of the coronavirus, she had a little dog. and she, I guess, wrote down that she wanted us to have it. I guess she liked the way we treat our dogs.
Starting point is 00:38:48 And so now it's kind of sentimental. We have her little dog. It's just kind of a reminder of her. We didn't know about putting them together. Right, right, right. Anyway, what I was going to say, my little dog, Hazel, was so worn out. She just got up on the couch with me right beside me and slept, you know. Well, I was actually studying my Bible.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And she was so asleep, she was stretched out. and I just heard, and she had just, you know, passed out and fell off the couch. But she looked around and she just staggered. And I was like, I thought, oh, no, she broke her back, you know. No, she was just so out of it. Fell asleep. It was an interesting point that I saw that last night.
Starting point is 00:39:30 I thought, man, that dog was like in the third dimension of sleep roll off the couch. I didn't even realize it. So let's take one last break. and then dad's got some thoughts on this idea of falling asleep. Well, to set fill up, so you got one of three, well, three, you got many. Was Jesus being sarcastic? Was he just related in it as to time?
Starting point is 00:40:03 Because, you know, when you sleep, time stops. Or did he have some other thought? Or when he said, we're going to go there and wake him? Or was he just joking? Well, my little section is this. Now, you had one guy who was standing there, Peter, so we'll start with him. Now, when Peter, when he was discussing,
Starting point is 00:40:32 when he was discussing his death, which the Apostle Paul said, we don't want you to be ignorant of those who fall asleep or grieve like the rest of men who have no hope. So he attributed it to physical death as falling asleep. Peter says this. He told them, he reminded them, you know, the things they ought to add to their faith,
Starting point is 00:41:01 and he says, so I'll always remind you of these things, even though you know them and are firmly established in the truth, you now have. I think it's right to refresh your memory Now listen to the wordage, as long as I live in the tent of this body, because I know that I will soon put it aside. He's going to fall asleep. His body is. Not him.
Starting point is 00:41:33 His body. I want to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of this body, which means he's not going to be. there forever because watch because i know that i will soon put it aside the tent as our lord jesus christ has made it clear to me the last few verses of john jesus told him he said peter you when you were young you you you dressed yourself and went the way you wanted to go but when you get old there's somebody else going to dress you and they're going to take you where you don't want to go by this jesus meant the kind of death peter would undergo to glorify god so i will make every effort that's ever to see that, now listen to the wordage, after my departure, he's saying I'm going to leave my tent,
Starting point is 00:42:24 the body. The body is going to fall asleep, which is physical death, but he is already departed. He said, you'll always be able to remember these things. Now, that's Peter. That's Second Peter 112. Second Peter 112. Well, you got the Apostle Paul. When he describes his view of physical death as being asleep, he says, you're going to be at two places. One is on the earth in your tent and one in heaven without your tent. So here's the way he says it.
Starting point is 00:43:02 You love this verse. So you eat this often. Is it circuitous? That's why everybody needs to be reminded of this on a consistent basis. They need to be reminded of these texts. Now watch. We know that if the earthly tent, well, Peter said as long as I'm in this tent,
Starting point is 00:43:19 I just thought I might ought to mention something to y'all. Well, Peter, the Apostle Paul uses the tame term analogy. Now we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, if you die, we have a building, another body, from God, an eternal house. There will be an eternal house, another body, it's an eternal house in heaven. It's not built by human hands.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Meanwhile, we groan. You say, why would we groan as long as we're in this tent? Because we don't want to be separated from our body. We don't want to leave our tent because it's a little bit out of whack. Meanwhile, we grown longing to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling, our new body, because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked. When you are body, soul, and spirit. When your body dies or falls asleep.
Starting point is 00:44:21 You got to remember, Jesus is fixing to say, whoever believes in me, even if he dies yet, shall he live? And whoever lives and believes in me will never die. You just leave your tent. Now, it's hell on one side and heaven on the other. while we're in this tent. Now right now I have a tent. My back, I pulled a muscle in my back the other day,
Starting point is 00:44:44 so you say you got a backache. As long as we're in this tent, we groan, we don't want to leave everybody out because it's a little awkward. That's right. When you have to leave. It's all we've ever known. It's all we've ever known.
Starting point is 00:44:56 And all of a sudden we've got to let it go and just rock on. You're like, I don't like that separation thing. So watch. While we're in this tent, We groan and are burdened because we do not wish to be unclothed. When your soul and your spirit is all you have, those are invisible. You can't see them out.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I see you coming because you're in a tent that I can recognize. When you leave that, I won't be able to communicate with you. It's awkward. But we want to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling so that what is mortal, that's while we're in the tent here, that's mortal. It's going to stop. You're going to fall asleep, your body. Your soul and spirit live on. And if you're a Christian, it lives on forever.
Starting point is 00:45:44 And you're good to go. You just don't have your body for a short period of time. When Jesus comes back, he's getting the bodies. But anyway, now it is God who has made us for this very purpose. It's the way he wanted it. Watch. And he's given us the spirit, which is critical. You have to receive God's Spirit by having your faith in Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:46:05 being born again of water and the spirit, guaranteeing what's to come. So what's this? Therefore, we're always confident. Know that as long as we're at home in the body, the tent, the temporary tent, we're away from the Lord. That's the downside of living right now.
Starting point is 00:46:25 All three of us right now, we're in our temporary tents. We know we're going to be separated from it. You say, hmm, but the bummer is we know we're away from God as long as we're in the tent. We live by faith, not by sight. We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body. You're better off when you leave this tent for one reason. If you're a faithful Christian, because you know you made it.
Starting point is 00:46:58 You know you made it. Right. Because watch. As long as we're at home. Look, I say. and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord. So we make it our goal. Check this out.
Starting point is 00:47:09 To please Him, God, whether we're at home in the body, which is right now where we are, are away from it. Our soul and spirit is with the Lord, and our body is in the cemetery. It's asleep, but we're still alive. We just don't have our body. Jesus comes back. He's going to raise the dead. You say, well, what's the only thing that could rise?
Starting point is 00:47:33 I know we're out of time. So look, the key point was what you just read we're going to read next time. He goes over there and literally woke him up. That's it. And he got his body back. That's it.
Starting point is 00:47:49 And if you're looking for a theme when he was heading with his body. That would be the question I would want to ask Lazarus. If you're looking for a theme though, right in the middle of this, we just read John 10, last few podcasts, and he said, I'm the good sheriff. I'm the gate for the sheep. And here he makes this statement in 1425,
Starting point is 00:48:10 I am the resurrection and the life. Yep. In 14, he's going to say, I am the way, the truth, and the life. If you're looking for a theme, Jesus's nickname or what he represents is I am. That's right.
Starting point is 00:48:29 And that's why we put our faith and trust in. him, that's why we focus on him. And when it comes to sickness and in death, I would go with the man who says, I am. For to me, the Apostle Paul said, to live is Christ and to die is gain. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:49 You say, how could you make that statement at your physical death? He said, it's just a departure from your tent. Because I am. You'll get a new one when Jesus shows back up. You'll get a new, this time not a tent. It's, it, that'd be eternal house. That's right. Eternal house.
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