Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 136 | Why Insects Don't Sting Phil, the Russian Beard Tax & What Makes Jesus & the Duckmen Weep
Episode Date: August 30, 2020An unexpected gift introduces Jase to the Russian beard tax. Dan's ninja moves to evade wasps in the duck blind inspire the guys to tell harrowing tales of spiders, chiggers, and fire ants, and we dis...cover why insects don't bite Phil. Al goes into a side of Jesus people tend not to notice in John 11. And the guys discuss God's compassion, what makes Jesus weep, what brings the Robertson men to tears, the lack of emotion in the church, and Jesus the disrupter. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I am unashamed.
What about you?
I don't know why we have a clock behind us.
I don't think it's on camera.
It's not on Karen,
but there's a clock behind us that doesn't work.
We put it because Dad had said,
let's put that clock up and we did put it.
It's stuck on 4.15.
There was some show that Phil used to listen to.
It was like a preacher,
and he would preach a sermon.
I remember because he would, you know,
wait me up at 5 o'clock in the morning.
you know, you ready, Jay, you ready.
We would go run the nets or whatever,
but he would always listen to this.
Pastor, I don't know if you remember this.
And at the end of it, he would say,
well, looks like the old clock on the wall says,
that's all.
Y'all.
You remember that?
That was so Ernie, what was his name?
He was an African-American preacher.
Ernie something.
You remember that I got the clock on the wall says,
that's all, y'all.
So I guess, you know, we want people to get lost in time.
We were talking about falling asleep the other day.
All right, well, they've done it again.
I wanted to share this with y'all.
You see this?
You know, somebody heard, one of my buddies heard
that the only thing I got for my birthday was a pie,
which was from you.
And actually, when I went over to see Jeff and Jessica,
she made me a red velvet cake.
So I got a pie and a cake.
You get a certain age and a man of your statured, Jays,
that doesn't have any money worries or whatever,
then you don't really need anything.
So that's just a good pie or a good cake.
I don't know about all that.
But, yeah, I was, I was, you know,
if my kids love me and my wife loves me and, I mean, I'm happy.
So one of my friends got me this.
This is a, you know what that is?
Yeah, because they know I'm in a metal detecting.
You know what that is?
It's got some kind of foreign language on it.
Yep, that's right.
Russian.
Russian.
Yeah.
This is a replica of a token from the 1700s.
Now, it's not the real thing, or, you know, we would be making money.
And if you look at it just right, you see there's a beard on one side at the bottom.
I see it.
The color's got it pulled up for it.
Now, you know what this is?
In the 1700s in Russia, they had, they introduced a beard tax.
They wanted everybody to shave and look civilized.
And if you didn't, because Russia's cold, I've been there.
And I know why they had beards.
What year was this?
In the 1700s, 1750, I think.
Yeah.
And so when you paid your taxes, your beard tax, if you had a beard, they'd give you this.
So when you went into town, you had to show them that you paid your tax.
And so he got me this for my birthday.
but I'm trying to figure out
why is that a birthday gift?
Well, what came to my mind
because all it did was making you man.
I thought what came to my mind is
it explains a lot about Russia
because I've always wondered
what kind of mind
ends up following Carl Marx.
Now you know.
The ones that say...
Was he from Russia?
The ones that say you have to cut your whiskers.
I'm like, start with that.
You're like, what...
I couldn't believe.
That's where, if you notice, he's Marxists, they're into these rules.
I was in here thinking we better.
They love rules.
We better not let the Democratic Party find out about this gift, Jay, because this will be the next tax.
I guarantee you, because that's right up there alley.
Oh, yeah.
They're like, oh, because I don't know if it's a southern thing with the beards.
Right.
But do you seem to see it more?
No, I tell you what, you go up to Wisconsin and Minnesota.
There's some big old burly Yankees, Midwesterners.
What would our society do if they said, okay, because this is real.
The text says a human body is fearfully and wonderfully made.
Right.
You know, you read over the Psalms.
Well, but then they're going to say, well, you didn't have a beard when you were born.
Because, you know, you didn't have any sin either.
A lot of things happen when you're a little baby in the crib.
They're probably going to make that argument.
You know, that would be a weak one.
With sin.
I've just looked at males and females.
And one of the ways you can tell the difference is I'm looking at one and there's facial hair will get long.
And the other one, no, not so much.
A little peach fudge.
We say if the women get a little sprig every once in a while, they got to get that out of it.
Oh, they're looking.
Any little sprig.
I see Lisa, she's looking in the mirror.
Any little things, it's got to come out.
Oh, yeah.
That's what they do.
But with this crowd, now these days, there's no male and female.
Well, you got to remember the theology and cultures in John 9, they were saying, well, who sinned?
He was born blind.
So I'm pretty sure they said somebody sinned because hair started growing out on your face, and I don't like it.
And so if you want that, then you're going to pay a tax.
And they did.
I mean, they had to pay a tax to have a beer.
If I could hire the smooth face ones, just hire them for a year.
and let them do everything I do in a year, they would end up saying, I need some whiskers.
I said, I know it.
I'm just showing you without saying you should have them, just run for one year.
Yeah.
Coal, the wind, the rain, the dust.
I grow mine during hunting season for that reason.
They are better for when you're in the elements.
So it's the thought that counts.
Walsh tend not to sting you because these ground yellow jackets and these
purple tail walls, big walls.
And as you bumped something in a blind,
we've been, we've already,
Dan just got heat up the other day with purple tails.
They stung him.
But he don't have a beer.
I tell you what he did.
I tell you what he did.
It was pretty impressive.
Dan, he's on top of the duck blind because when you brush the duck blind,
you start on the top because it's high because if you put it on the bottom and the side,
you can't get over the brush, you just put on it to get up there.
So you got to kind of work it with you.
So we get him on top first.
and we're kind of like that spears throwing them up,
and he's placing them up there on that roof under some of that last year's brus.
There was a purple-tailed wall's nest like that.
He got into him.
Well, he's about eight to ten feet off the ground standing up there,
and they just come out of there and started just eating him up.
So his choice was, I'll just leap from here.
here and he just took off and bail off like he's on top of a skyscraper and came down
and was except for the wasp was unscathed.
I said, man, I said, man, I went around and I look and see if he was in one piece
and he got up, you know, and I said, that was quite the leap not to get hurt.
I said, man, I said, I couldn't do that.
I wouldn't try that at 74.
You could.
No, you would be hurt.
You'd probably still be there.
Very, very few men could have made that longer dive.
I mean, it was like way tall on his ceiling.
It was up there.
I mean, he just bail out.
But you know, when a bunch of perma tails are stinging you,
that adrenaline gets you to superhuman.
They're just stinging him all on the back of his legs,
stinging him through his breeches.
But that's not very smart, really.
I mean, they're not going to kill you.
And so why risk?
I mean, I've been in that same sense.
He's been sung four times, but there's like 75 wasps.
So it will make him ill if he doesn't get out of that.
You know where my dearestan is?
I climbed up there, stuck my head in there.
It's before daylight, you know, just warm.
And I kept hearing, I didn't know what it was.
Well, there was felt around the deer stand.
And so the wasp had built.
had built a nest, I guess, to, you know, keep you cool, kind of like a beard.
They're in the felt.
Oh, yeah.
Well, when they come out and started stinging me, because evidently I bumped the felt.
Oh, yeah.
I'm, how high is that stand?
Pretty high.
That's high.
So my first reaction was to hurry, and then I thought, no, death awaits.
The alternative is death or paralysis or, you know.
Take the wall stand.
And I literally took a deep breath, and they were just popping me.
And I just came on down the ladder.
And then I ran.
But I was like, there's no option here.
I mean, I'm going to get a bunch of, you know, stings.
Yeah.
But dad's right.
The problem is, you know, those things are pretty toxic.
If you get too many, they can make you pretty sick.
I had a spider bite me right above my knee about, oh, three weeks ago.
course it just got red.
Well, I was just walking in tall weeds.
Did you see the spider?
No, but I was cutting brush.
Yeah.
So when it first hit, I said, either cotton mouth or, I said, but I believe it's a little high up
or a cotton mouth.
So you felt the steam?
Oh, I mean, it was really more than like a was, but I thought, well, but man, that
thing, I mean, it kind of rotted out a little hole, you know, and, you know, and, you
got puffy and red all the way around.
What the doctor said?
Oh, I didn't go to a doctor.
Home remedy, Jay's home remedy.
But it just now got well, and it's what I thought that.
So it was.
I think I read where it wasn't a brown recluse because their bites are painless,
but you get problems later.
I think that's right.
We have brown recluse and black wooders.
It must have been a black wood.
I thought it might have been a black widow because it sure did eat out of a hole.
Somebody will let me know, but I think the black widow has the painful bite.
The brown recluse doesn't.
I think I read that.
I scounds around down there, you know, found some kind of little put piece of tape on it, you know.
And I'd check it for every three or four days.
I'm like, well, that thing's slow to heal.
More people die from stings than spider or snake bites.
I've been stung so much.
Allergic.
Yeah.
I've been stung so much that it's just, you know.
Have you just built up an immunity, you know?
It's just like maybe a little more than a mosquito.
It doesn't bother hardly at all.
It makes me mad.
But that one did.
That and there, I said, who, what the world was that?
Well, I'm in tall weeds about waist high, and I'm just walking through them, you know, with a weed eater.
And I'm going over to another willow tree to cut brush, you know.
So there's a lot of things.
In Louisiana, there's a lot of things in waist high weeds that you don't want to get a hold of you.
It makes me angry.
One of them three foot cotton mouth at head.
I've been picking Dewberry before when I'm just looking down and I just see a cotton mouth go by.
I mean, you know, bat big around.
I'm like, whoa.
Anytime I get popped, which doesn't happen often.
But when it does, I go buy me a case of water spray.
And then I just go on a rampage.
I like, I kill them as far.
I go to other people's houses.
It's a rampage.
If I get stung, I have a rule.
because I've been stung many times.
When I get stung, I kill 100.
That's a spot bit back.
And when I get to 100.
Payback.
Yeah.
Just for general principles.
I'm just showing them, you sting me, I'm coming.
I will go down the creek and look for wals nest in the cypress trees.
I'm killing a hundred of them.
Dan, nearly gets stung on every trip.
We can just be right along with the four-wheeler.
He's got a lot of flesh exposed.
There is.
No beard.
I think there's a certain kind of, and a lot of times, he has like, looks like,
it's just red marks for something that's just eating him up.
And he said, he said, I don't know what, what this is on my leg, no pores and I have any.
He takes too many showers because I told him, I said, Dan, I've been walking in the same grass patches and these, these willers than you are.
And I said, I don't have one red mark.
And he said, I cannot figure it out.
But when you shave, look, when you shave and you shave your head and then you wear a cologne and you shout, when you go out in the woods.
Remember the film crew?
You're a neon time.
Remember the film crew?
They all came out.
Same thing.
And look, they went to the hospital because they said something is out in these woods.
One of them went to the hospital because of red bugs.
And I was like, those are red bugs.
And they're like, oh.
Chiggers.
Chiggers.
Yeah.
Sugar.
I'm immune to the chigures.
They thought they were dying.
Because they had, you know, they thought they had polio or something.
I think the bathing, bathing too much is you come up with something.
We're on Cologne.
And they wear, you know, fabrics of clothes.
It's like you're walking around on the property with a neon sign that says,
hurt me.
Attack me.
Attack me.
They were from L.A. and New York and the little girls, you know, they come out there.
And we were all out there.
Remember when we used to do them film shots outside?
Well, you can just imagine what was running around in Louisiana.
Have you walked through that?
And they got their little shorts.
They were showing their little legs, you know.
I looked at it when they walked out there.
I said, yeah.
That eagle laugh.
I said, they're fixing to find out the hard way.
I thought the same thing.
You're better wearing long,
riches.
You notice the ones that's hung around for a while,
they come out long sleeves, long pants.
Through the weeks, you know,
because I noticed that too,
their legs became so, I mean, almost nausea.
It looked bad.
Yeah, it looked like they had just been beaten.
Bitten.
They just descended on them.
And I'm like.
My thinking was,
city dwellers come to place like this, I'm convinced there's some kind, if you're born and raised
and you're out there alive, there's some kind of, God has built some kind of system where you become
immune because I've seen it too much. I mean, I've seen a lot of people. You've run the property
so long. You're like the world's most interesting man. Remember, the insects won't buy them out of
respect. Yeah. Dan told me that. I said, you reckon? He said, I don't know. I'm the one getting stung.
every time we come down there or bitten by something.
He's got a lot of flesh. He's got like, because he wears the muscle shirt, so he's got exposed arms.
But he's, by nature, he's just light skin.
Yeah.
Light skin would seem to have the most trouble.
Yep.
I think you're right.
You know, real, you know, people, blonde-headed, true blind-headed people.
Red-heads, too, yeah.
He said, you got a little red in your, I used to.
It's getting a little gray now.
That's what happens with red.
Let's take a break.
So anyway, I don't know where we have.
we wound up that we started out in Russia. I was talking about beards. Beards are good.
And then we wound up talking about Dan getting pop. Do you didn't laugh at him,
did you? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Once he was. Why is it funny too? And it is when somebody else is pop. You know,
you're sitting there and look. A man's on top. I get mad about it. A man's way up on top of a
he just runs and leaps off. And you just see him fly off at that top of it. I didn't know what
he was doing it. But I said, he's going to figure and get hurt. I walked around at a look. I said,
What?
The world wouldn't make a man do that.
Was.
And then he was trying to kill him because they didn't got up in his britches in.
Oh, yeah.
It makes me hurt just thinking about it.
But it happened so much.
They're just something about him.
They're drawn to him because he's been stung way more than me.
Yeah.
But I just see how he walked around in the woods, and I think he's in trouble.
See, if it were me.
He's not looking.
If it were me, I would never get up on top of a duck blind without a can of hornet spray.
I would come armed.
Phil always sends him in first.
He's like, hey, go in there.
But he's not thinking.
You tell me that.
Dan is the canary.
The code is the young ones to send them in first.
No, Phil.
Your code is anybody but me.
Dan is the canary going into the cave.
That's what he is.
He's checking to make sure that we don't have a gas leaks.
You know when we did that show.
He gets up in there and it comes back up under the floating, them old logs,
my blinds float on log.
But I sent him up under that.
but I've literally seen him go in one go in and on the other side I see a couple of cotton mouths come out.
You remember when we had the exterminate drain pipes down there.
You get up in there getting all that mud for the beavers put in there.
And I've been standing, I always get on the top of the pipe, you know, on the levee.
And I'm watching.
I just see a couple of cotton mouths come out.
You remember the exterminators that came down and had the TV show?
Billy the exterminator.
Yeah, look, he came down there.
It was in the middle of summertime.
Oh, it was hot.
Phil, the main thing.
blind we have called the lake blind it's it's the size of a lot of people's houses it's about
a thousand square feet and nobody had been in there the whole summer and they were like yeah we're
gonna you know we have an idea we're gonna exterminate your blind and remember it was like well good luck
with that and they're like hey we're never seen individuals when that episode ended they they said
what was the name of it billy the exterminator yeah billy the exterminate yeah and
They had on the show.
On the show, it said mission abortions.
Because look, we were all standing outside.
Which I had never seen that before.
We watched some of their episodes waiting on yours to come up.
And every mission was accomplished except that one, which was that.
I went down there the evening before they were going to come,
and I walked up real easy on that blind.
The backwater had just fallen off.
And back in there where we put our boat, there was a couple of mud puddles.
and I walked up there
and I saw one cotton mouth
kind of hanging on the side of it out there
I said, mm-hmm
and I moved to the left a little bit
there were two crawled up
under that boat run
I said
this is going to be fun
and I knew that when they went in there
but I said look we got cotton mouths
you got purple tail walls
ants you got purple tail walls
fire ants
they were listening
they were like
and the producers
they were like
Professor, we got it.
Look, when they went in there, they literally started screaming and hollering.
And I looked over whoever, it was me, you, and somebody else.
Willie was there.
I said, I hope they have a beeper because I have never heard so many four-level words
and screaming and hollering.
And what I'm looking, he had big welts all over his face.
The show ended with, they were just running, all of them.
I said, I said, oh, he'll be all right.
And they said, he's allergic to him.
He's allergic to him.
That was the brother that was allergic.
And I thought, who is, if they're allergic to was, why are you an exterminator?
I mean, that's the wrong.
Phil was trying to tell them.
And they were like, hey, we got it.
But they didn't get it.
I thought, if you go in there or without, you need to set this up, they're like, no, where is going in.
I went around the cotton mouths, got up easy does it, in the blind.
and I looked at the roof of the blind
and I could see these purple-tailed washness like that.
And look, I said, this is going to be a lot of fun.
And boy, did I ever send them in us?
And I mean, they ate them up.
So I told the guy before he went in and I said,
you're going to want to cover your face up, nothing but your eyes.
And he said, we got it.
I was thinking, what an idiot.
He said he was on his knees spraying some wasp down here
where we sit on the bench.
and he said he just heard a big racket.
And look, he just looks up and they just, I mean,
John's face.
He went to the hospital.
He went to the hospital.
And spent the night.
Yeah.
He spent a night in the hospital.
That was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my hospital.
Mission aborted.
So we heard the story that we weren't there.
So y'all told us the story.
So we had already laughed so hard about it.
So when the episode actually came out, like,
because you didn't get near as much of what y'all got.
Oh, no.
But you're right.
Beep, beep, beep.
It was the whole thing.
They basically beeped out the last three.
And they didn't even film most of it because they were scramed the camera ops.
Everybody was running.
It was literally ever.
It would have been a great episode if they could have filmed it.
If they had another crew filming that film crew, then you would have had some.
I mean, you know, they were in the lions den.
So that was actually pre-Ducted Honesty.
And Billy the Exterminator was on A&E.
And so you and Willie appeared on the episode.
And then I think it came out later once we had already started.
So it was almost like a crossover episode.
But the bottom line is every year we have to do that every year.
Yeah.
We have to get all the wasp and the cotton.
Well, because when we start hunting in September, all this is still hot.
All this is still around.
The things that can really hurt you, the fire a range can get out of good.
Oh, I'd say they're the most consistent pain.
deal because you don't the first day it's a zit everywhere they sting you right but the but on opening
day you're in a dark place where you sit down you don't realize you're sitting on an ant bed
yeah you come in before daylight so you wait for it to get daylight so the walls these uh fire ants are
getting up and all of a sudden they just get there up you know in your socks coming up the edge of your
by the thousands oh thousands and they have their little code because they wait to they got about a
500 on you for the first one strikes.
See, somehow they know that.
If the first one bit you, you'd have a...
That's actually a zip for about two weeks.
I mean, it's about a two-week.
We've talked about this before, but people find this hard to believe.
But when the backwater comes in, and we've been hunting late in the year,
and you're out waiting around, I've seen fire ant balls as big as a beach ball.
Just drift by.
Just drift by.
I've shot them, you know, by the hundreds.
Because when I get in an anthubite, may I go kill my hundred.
They claim it's a...
I just blow them.
with a shock.
That's a new phenomenon.
Used to not have fire ants, but boy, we have them now.
Somebody brought them over here.
So where were we when we were so rudely interrupted last week?
Well, let's take a little break and we'll dive in.
We were in John 11, and we, on the last couple of podcasts, and we didn't feel like we
had quite gotten to the core of this thing.
We talked a lot about the resurrection part of this the last time, or last couple of times.
But there was some other elements that happened here, which I find interesting, because it
it sort of shows a side of Jesus that you don't really see in any other context.
It's here.
It's always been here.
It's just, it's like people don't notice it, I guess.
Maybe so.
Just his kind of the compassionate nature of it,
because it goes into how in-depth he felt about Mary, Martha, and Lazarus.
Well, what's always stuck out to me,
is because here's this situation
where he's obviously close
to Mary and Martha.
Lazarus dies.
He knows that.
He's like, hey, I got a plan.
He knows he's going to raise it.
Yeah, don't worry about it.
So he knows everything is okay.
Even like at the end of all this,
when he gets down, if I read the last verse
and then we back up, in 1142,
he said, I knew that you always hear me,
but I said this for the benefit of,
of the people standing here that they may believe that you sent me.
You know, he prayed.
Yeah.
So he knows everything's going to be okay.
He knows God to listen to him.
He knows what the plan is.
He knows he's going to die and be buried and resurrected.
But we have a moment here, people he's close to.
And then all of a sudden, when he sees his friends moved by the death of Lazarus,
they have already blamed him, it's very emotional.
Well, he, short's verse in the Bible, Jesus wept.
and then as the story continues he's deeply moved again it says he was deeply moved right so so he
for the tears to fall out of god who's in a human body why would he why would was it that
particular time because he was weeping because of the situation so why why weep well and
I think that is the ultimate question from the context is because it wasn't
because, you know, he had lost a friend because he knew he was fixing to come back.
Sure.
So, like, the reasons we would reason why you would weep, we'd say, well, why even, you know,
like you read the first, we don't grieve like men who have no hope.
But the point is we do grieve.
And so I think that's the point.
The point is to me is that God loves people.
Yeah.
All people.
Maybe because he saw, like, man, the fear in them.
Right.
You know, I've been watching this coronavirus thing.
And the thing that stands out more to me than anything else is the fear that humans have.
We have the exact feel.
They can't see them.
That's right.
I did an episode in the woods of something where I just made the point.
You know, you can't see God, you can't smell him, you can't taste him.
And I said, but you believe in him.
And for people to say, well, if I could see him, but you don't see the pandemic, you don't see the microbes.
but you know it's there because of the results of what you are,
you see the results and that's kind of like saying,
well, if I could see God, I might do something,
but you know, believing in the resurrection, how could that be?
Well, you'll believe that there's a virus running around
because people end up the 160, 140,000 people have died in the United States
where you would think.
You say, I got something for it.
You can see these.
You can't see it, smell it, feel it, hear it, nothing.
You can see the red letters.
You look at them and see them.
That's a good point.
And you read them and then you imagine, oh, that was a country on the earth.
He was at, claiming to be God.
And you read what happens.
And the more you read them, the more you see.
That's one of the things I think he might have been saddened about is the fearfulness, the human race.
They're scared to death right now because of this, because of a microbe.
They got turned loose on us in China.
And again, think about it.
You're right, Dad.
But the biggest fear, most people know the facts, the stats of it.
It's not going to kill that many people.
I mean, I know 160,000.
That's a lot of people.
But out of 330 million people, I mean.
Right.
You look at the percentages, and James mentioned this four,
you've got other things that kill way more people than that.
But then somebody will say, well, yeah, that's not a big deal unless you're one of those.
Well, that's my point.
So my point is, most people's fear is that it's not going to kill me.
but what if I give it to mom or dad or grandma or grandpa?
I mean, what would be your aunt, your assistant, who's, she's missy's aunt.
So she wound up being the one who gave it to her mom.
They think.
Yeah, they.
But as a child of the resurrection, my view of-
But I mean, that probably impacted her more than anything, right?
Well, it did.
She was broken up about it, but she didn't know she had it.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
So the fear in her case-
My view of it is, based on what we looked at last time with the resurrection, I'm like, whatever.
I mean, if he's, if your time, if you're left.
That's kind of been my approach too.
But this whole story is the same thing.
He got sick.
Jesus acknowledged it, and he died.
Yep.
Right.
It happens.
Yeah.
Every day.
Now, in this case, if you didn't think God is in control when Jesus is Lord,
he proved that he has the power over death.
He was there for events like Lazarus died.
That's what he came for.
What's so stupid about human beings is that after these people see this,
the Jewish leaders and the Pharisees, they're like,
we need to kill this guy.
Yeah, they double down.
What part of this are you not getting?
It did not.
They're like, how do you kill a guy?
It's an age-old dilemma because they could not believe.
his narrative, it didn't fit their narrative.
They had it worked out to where...
I think this is where the idea of zombies and mummies came from.
Probably so.
Their story.
What's amazing is they all knew that they believed in the coming Messiah
because to this day they're putting prayers in that waiting wall over there in Israel.
They're putting their prayers up in there.
They think God's going to come down.
Still waiting on them to come.
And still waiting on him to come.
Well, and they're like, who are you?
And he said, I'm the one you've been waiting on.
And they're like, no.
And we've talked about that before.
It just didn't fit because they're saying, wait a minute, where were you born?
I mean, and they could track his human roots to a little virgin girl.
Like, yeah, I bet God came out of that thing.
So, I mean, they just couldn't quite put it together because he's walking down the road.
And they're thinking, that can't be God.
He's just some nut.
Well, remember he was from an area where what good thing comes out of there?
What good things comes out of Nazareth?
Well, when you read verse 44 of 11, the dead man came out,
his hands and feet wrapped with strips of linen and a cloth around his face.
This is the zombie apocalypse.
This is it.
You're sitting there and people, you know, Hollywood thought they invented that.
No, this is written.
A couple thousand years ago, we got a dead man.
And maybe their idea might have come to like that.
Of course it did.
And so they're looking around thinking, well, he couldn't have been dead because
your mind is not going to process that.
This is the same way I feel about zombie movies.
I'm like, oh, this is a good movie.
This is because I don't ever watch the previews, you know, of a movie.
And then I'm like, oh, it's a zombie movie.
There's been thousands up.
Well, I mean, every once while there's a killer.
I watch the one.
walking dead for a long time and I finally just don't have time to watch it but what was so
interesting wasn't the zombie I mean they but why are we fascinated with that out well we just
are because dead people walking around and but the real story behind walking dead was the live
people that's where the danger I mean the you get bit by the zombie you turn to a zombie but the ones
you got to watch out for was the rest of them you know well no rules so why is this yeah
all men for like so why is it after watching what happened with Lazarith now
You know, so they, when he finally did, when he was raised from the dead, down at the bottom says John and Peter are there.
And he said, finally the other disciple who had reached the tomb first, you know, John outrun Peter, also went inside.
He saw and believed.
That's John 20, verse 8.
But it says, verse 9 says, they still did not understand.
from scripture that Jesus had to rise from the dead.
They're looking at an empty tree.
It looked like the last thing.
If I had been standing there,
and Jace just,
Jase was talking about somebody coming out of a hole.
Because they saw that.
I would be like,
okay,
I think that's all I need there.
That did it there.
I just heard the story and believe it.
So if I had been there,
you would think,
but they did.
I know it.
I still missed it.
Let's take a number of it.
I think there's a few points that come
out of this. One is
when people
hurt, even though God
knows everything's going to be okay,
he has compassion, he hurts with you.
I mean, that's a
powerful point. I think another
thing that comes out of us. I mean, it was just straight
his tears were just
compassion. Well, that's what,
he knew everything was going to be fun. So why
is he shedding tears? I agree with that, Jay's
because when I first started preaching,
and obviously one of my responsibilities pretty quickly was marrying people and doing funerals.
I mean, that's what pastors and preachers do.
And so the first time I had to do a sermon for a funeral, I mean, I just kind of had to walk it through in my mind.
I thought, you know, to this group of people, whoever this person was, you know, they loved deeply.
A lot of times I wouldn't even know this person.
I knew somebody that was connected to them.
So I approached every one of them like, this is one of the most important points in these people.
lives because like they lost somebody they love deeply there's somebody's grandma
somebody's dad somebody's son and so I always tried to put myself in the mode and one of
the texts I love that helped me get motivated for that to never remember to just be
call out of another funeral you know I think if you're in the funeral home business you know
you're constantly with people it's hard not to have a comforting heart you know and second
Corinthians one three through 11 is one of my favorite text where it talks about the
God of all comfort and Paul basically says
All the stuff we've experienced, the reason that happens to us is so that we can then be compassionate to other people.
You know, that's that kind of flow.
So I think about that when I think about this text.
And I remember, Dad, of all the moments of the show, the one that probably touched me the deepest.
And we had a lot of them.
Mia's speech was one that, you know, I cried.
Yeah, I was going to say.
But the one where Dad was praying in Theressor's house.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, Dad, you wept.
I mean, like, you started praying.
It was the final prayer.
Yep.
And then you just, you broke down.
Well, I mean, it was just like a cascade, but what it was.
Well, because Phil doesn't, I mean, I haven't seen you cry, but maybe a handful of times.
Twice, two or three.
And look, I was the same way you brought up Mia.
I was never an emotional person.
But when Mia was born and we were worried about what she was going to look like, what her condition was,
there was a few moments there where they thought she wasn't going to live.
well I lost it and part of it was because I thought you know felt bad for thinking what's going to
look like or now all of a sudden I'm just like I just wanted to live you know forget all that
so I came out to tell everybody that's where I lost it there was like 50 people out there all
supporting you know we're having a baby and I mean I lost it I remember that and ever since that
happened I would be emotional about different things along the
the process. Even though most of what I did, I knew it was going to be okay. You know, the first
time we handed her off for her first major surgery wasn't that she was going through
surgery. It was the actual handoff. There was just something happened. And it reminds me of this.
I knew it was going to be okay. She was literally handoff. It was out of your hands.
It's out of my control. And I thought this is what's best. But that moment right there was very
emotional.
Right.
And so I've shared that before because, you know, one of the big things I see out of this
is most religious gatherings that you go to in general, there is a lack of emotion.
And when you read something like this, as much pain and as much, you know, problems that
we have in all our churches, especially big churches, just doesn't seem to fit.
it's like a routine where people are gathering and everybody says they're great and then you read
something like this I mean why would he be having this kind of emotional response when he knew
everything was fine yeah well exactly and I would ask you dad so why did you weep in that prayer
in that moment I don't know say and I don't either and so but something moved you to the point
that whole episode which by the way it's you know we talked about
about reality TV not being real in a lot of cases. But in this case, we literally were giving
one of our sisters a home. And she didn't know that the producers kept it from her. And so her
son... Well, we told the producers, we're going to do this. You're welcome to film it. That's right.
And there was a few episodes like that. And they kind of filmed from the distance.
Because one of our sponsors was Clayton Holmes and they provided the home, you know,
and I think you guys put some money in too. So, but I think my theory is, dad, that in the
that moment of when we were thanking God, which is all those prayers you did and we all did
were for real. Those weren't, you know, those aren't staged things for a show. In that moment
of realizing this generosity and what this family we had walked with our whole lives, I mean,
it kind of overwhelmed us all. But I think when you wept, it just opened the floodgates
over all of us. And look, and on those films a few times, you know, they only filmed that once
and it was always wide. Like when we did the Mia thing, Missy said that. She's like,
We'll do this once.
Yeah.
Y'all, I remember telling the camera people, you know, it's her daughter.
I don't know why I cry because we were giving her the house.
It was just the, it was the Christian thing to do.
I think so I think so I'm saying.
It was just, it was so empathetic.
She was so happy.
In that neighborhood, that was the finest house down there.
It is.
Still is probably, you know.
Oh, yeah, it was awesome.
It was good.
Hebrews 5, 7 says,
During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions
Now notice this, with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death,
and he was heard because of his reverent submission.
And I brought this up before.
Most people, when they hear the phrase reverent submission,
they're thinking a lack of emotion,
no, we're going to, you know, if you say, hey, you're not being reverent,
you're not submitting to
but he
redefined it in our mind
from what we think of normally
being reverent with loud cries and tears as he prayed
but you let somebody get up
and pray with loud cries and tears
in some of our churches
and it would make people feel uncomfortable
you know in our church we're fortunate
where people do that sometimes
I mean they're emotional people
and they're moved and they're
you know we kid
about the guy who we all love, his name is Kurt.
He just operate.
He's a loud crier and shouter.
He's just a way is wired.
One of our podcast listeners who watches live stream sent me a note after Sunday
and said we needed to have Kurt on our podcast.
I said, that would be interesting.
Well, going back to the, it all started, it all started when, when, when, when,
Jesus said, no, he's asleep, he'll be okay.
He's just asleep.
Said something better sleep, didn't he?
Yeah.
Well, you get over, everybody about once a week needs to read the all of 1st Corinthians 15.
He said, listen, I tell you a mystery.
We will not all sleep, and he's talking about the resurrection.
But we will be changed in a flash, which makes sense to me.
in the twinkling of an eye at the last trumpet.
For the trumpet will sound,
the dead will be raised imperishable,
and we will be changed.
He's talking about a different tent.
We mentioned tent last time.
Well, this is your eternal house here.
For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable
and the mortal with immortality.
When the perisable has been clothed with the imperishable
and the mortal with emperishable,
and the mortal with imperishable.
mortality, then the saying that is written will come true.
And this whole thing about Lashv was a demonstration of that, and Jesus knew it.
Death has been swallowed up in victory.
Where old death is your victory?
Where old death is your sting?
You got to remember, you know, the, he too shared in our humanity so that by his death
he might destroy him who holds the power of death.
You say, oh, this whole thing about, you know, how come y'all, you know, crazy enough to follow Jesus.
We're talking mortals becoming immortals.
You sure what I'm saying?
Yeah, absolutely.
Now, I don't care what anybody says.
You say, if you had a shot at that, I saw how hard it was for them to believe the one that said he could do this.
And they were eyewitnesses of the miracles and everything else.
and to this day 2,000 years later
without seeing strange sights
from being with somebody like Jesus
watching what he did and what he said
but it's still a hard sale
but looked like to me it'd be an easier sale
well you'd think so but again
we saw how blinded the people were
that actually saw it happening so I'm sure look
when he so he goes to the grave
and he's like you know it says he said in a loud voice
where's that at
43 there
so he hollers
he's like
Lazarus
yeah come out
like he's waking him up
now I wonder
how many people
standing there
rolled their eyes
let's just say
we all go
let's go to the graveyard
okay
you die
where are you
well look
come on with me
we go up there
and I start hollering
you know
Jesse
come out of there
come out
I mean you're like
really
that's what they were thinking.
Think about those few seconds of waiting
or however long it took
before all of a sudden he comes walking out.
That's why I just,
I have to imagine, he's like,
ooh,
because he's all wrapped up.
He said take his grave clothes off.
That's where I got that.
So it's like he's trying to talk or just,
you know,
yeah,
because they probably wrapped him pretty tight.
Oh, sure they did.
And so that's why I said it.
And put the burial stuff on the smelling stuff.
He's a zombie.
And by the way,
this is not the only time. There's another time Jesus wept when he was coming into Jerusalem.
Remember the triumphal entry? Well, yeah. And he wept over Jerusalem. He said, oh, Jerusalem,
Jerusalem. Well, that's why I read that. He was an emotional person. And the reason.
And I wanted to bring that up, because that we should have, that should be there.
I didn't, I didn't make sense of this until I studied worship for a couple of years.
and then I realized
no wonder God said
love the Lord your God
with all your heart, soul, mind and strength
somewhere in your heart, soul, mind, and strength
there's some emotion there
and God created this way
and it's okay
and Jesus himself displayed that
many times.
There's always two options it seems
after it was all over
therefore many of the Jews
who had come to visit Mary
and she's one and got this thing
rolling about Nazareth and had seen what Jesus did when he said Lazarus, they put their faith in
him. But, and it's always a but nearly, it's always, but some of them went to the Pharisees and told
them what Jesus had done. Now listen to this response. Then the chief priests and the Pharisees called
the meeting of the Sanhedron. I mean, what are we accomplishing that? Here's this man performing
many miraculous signs. If we let him go on like this, everyone's going to believe in him.
Then the Romans will come and take away both our place and our nation. We'll lose our country over it.
There's the problem. That's the prism they were looking at. It was only about the physical
nation of Israel. And they had it lumped into miracles. The same thing goes on right now in America.
Right. You know, we're going to fool around. These Bible thumpers are going to run the country.
Right. We have a lecture coming up, and it basically is the forces of evil.
against the forces of God.
I mean, any way you slice it,
I'm looking at it, I'm thinking,
oh, Satan's got them
rally together now.
That's why earlier,
God, the Democratic platform.
I mean, when I say none,
none, no, they will not mention him.
They booed him out here seven or eight years ago.
Drop him out of the pledge.
You remember earlier when we were studying
and they said they saw his miracles
and they're like, oh, we're going to make him king by force.
And it's the same concept here.
The only reason they would want him around is if they could use his miracles to make them look good.
Manipulate him.
Yeah.
And if that doesn't fit in with their narrative about their place, which when I read that too,
I thought, how much, how many arguments do we have at our places of worship?
Don't come in here and disrupt this.
Here they are seeing Jesus Christ, Son of God, you know, bring back.
a guy from the dead. And they're like, don't mess up this place. They're acknowledging that he's
really performing the miracles. And then they have a meeting and say, we're going to do something
of this guy. Exactly right. And what happens is in the context, because we're almost out of time,
the context to end John 11 is they go, this is a point of no return for the Sanhedron
and the leadership in here. So once we get to chapter 12 and start going the rest of the way,
they've turned the corner now. He's got to die.
I mean, they've been kind of back and forth, and maybe we're convinced, what are we going to do about the people?
But they turned the corner here.
Well, this chaos had made a prophecy.
Who has been?
Who was through God that someone was going to die for the nation?
So they're like, well, that's him.
That's right.
And their thought was, we need to kill him or else the Romans are going to take this.
That was their mindset.
And what they never knew, of course, is that you don't kill God.
But he said, you do not realize that it is better for you that one man die for the people than the whole nation perish.
That was their logic.
That's right.
We don't want to upset any of our traditions and what we do.
Just kill that guy.
This guy's got to go.
We'll make him a martyr and we'll rally around him.
This is just how people work.
When you boo God out of your political party, you've killed him in your mind.
You're saying, no.
Don't need him.
Don't need him.
Which explains Marxism because you can't have God in that mindset.
I bet some of them think if they sat down and if they just could suffer through it,
hearing us discuss Jesus, the resurrection.
What would they say, Al, what would they think of us?
Well, you know, and you asked the question before theft, you know,
have you ever converted left-winger?
That was your question to me.
But now we know that some can be, old John from San Antonio, you know,
He's a, but it ain't a lot of them.
Over the last 50, 45 years, not many.
That's exactly right.
You better stick with Jesus.
That's exactly right.
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