Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 137 | Si the Nudist, the Awkward Way Godwin Met Phil, and Inside the Mystery Box

Episode Date: August 31, 2020

John Godwin finally makes his debut as a guest on the Unashamed podcast. Godwin recalls the extreme awkwardness of the first time he met Phil and reminds Phil how he was converted. Phil shares a story that has the guys convinced that Uncle Si is a nudist, and Al gives us the scoop on Si's sleepwalking. And Godwin reveals an awesome gift for Phil inside the mystery box on the Unashamed Lair table. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? John listens to the podcast. I see it's sometimes when I come in there. So Stone was here, John, and said that while he's working, he hears the podcast because instead of working, it was the implication. He didn't say that, but the implication was while I'm working, Godwin's listening to the podcast. So I get some of it through that. Oh, yeah. Well, that would be what he would say. But, you know, remember when we used to build them? We'd watch TV and build a duck call.

I watched the computer and build duck call. I watched the podcast. In fact, I came in there yesterday, I think, one of the days yesterday, and you were watching the one that Stone was on. Yeah. You got a member, building duck calls. By the way, him and Ann isn't talking right now. But he told me, they'll, he said they'll drive.

to go offshore's Alabama six and seven hours and never say a word. Yeah, so I guess there's nothing different. Yeah. Business as usual. What I was going to say is Bill and Duckaw is one of the most monotonous

things you can do on the planet is you do the same thing over and over all that. You have to break it all right. You're a human machine. And always have the perfect exhibit because people are like, well, why are you watching TV? You know, the production, you know.

Willie went through that stage for a few of a few weeks. know, we're going, everybody going to stand up and, you know, work with deaths that are, I was like, hey, you know what monotony does to people? Look at Sa. Sae, he just sat there and did the reeds and he didn't have a distraction. What drove him crazy. Yeah. He may have been already tipping toward crazy before.

I agree. He had insane tendencies. Just asking of his former COs, can you imagine having Sai working for you? He was born different. Yeah. I knew he was different when he ran, literally, ran naked until he got a school age and he got his butt tore up because he said, oh, I'm not wearing any clothes. And she said, oh, my mama said, oh, you're going to wear clothes just at school.

He said, mm-mm. I mean, and he got his tails tore up with the back. Wait a minute now. He wanted to go naked to school? Naked? He said, I'm not going to wear clothes. I mean, what few pictures. Hey, naked boy. You've seen these pictures of these family groups that are really poor, which we were.

Don't tell me he's naked. And they're all lined up. And look, sigh would be standing there. Just, just. But naked. But naked. He was. Oh, my goodness.

He was a nudist. He was a free spirit. That's hard to delete. So when I retired, I guess he'll end up in some nudist colony somewhere. Oh, boy. That's a little boy. He just didn't like clothes. And we got to worry.

We didn't think anything about it. I mean, he was just the newtis. He was the youngest one. Well, that's even more disturbing. Youngest, well, I'm just telling you, I'm giving it a little background of the Robertson clan. Boy, I'll tell you, it's a wonder. We had not all.

I had heard that story before. I had not either. Well, I had heard the story. However, children who. were like that. When the polio virus came through and it devastated kids, well, they did a, they did a big study on it once they came up with the vaccine and all. And they did a study and they found that all the kids who ran naked and played in the dirt in the rural areas, no rural children caught polio. Which is one. Well, no. All no. I mean, hey, the people up

down the road. I mean, no. There's a lot of nudity. They were all like that. What I'm saying is we stayed outdoors. That's not normal. People don't run around naked. Well, you know, we, I might have had a little raggedy pair of blue jeans that somebody

had given us. We'd cut up. All the shoes we got were hand-me-downs from somewhere else. We didn't get like new shoes ever. That fit. Mine, you know. I realize that. Nudity.

If you have feet, we're getting bigger. You had big feet. There's a big deal. difference in some blue jeans and nothing. It'll give you some big bunions later on in life. I know that because you get your feet squeezed in these shoes. So we didn't wear shoes. But the ones, the children that played in the dirt, they said,

somehow through that had built the natural immunity that particular virus. And it got the city kids. Well, they got to looking at it. And they said, how come nobody, all these people around that Paris and Louisiana out in the woods, the rural areas? We went to school, barefooting. Galvin, welcome to the show. What we've learned thus far.

Let me review. If you don't want polio, go around naked. If you wear too tight of shoes, you get bunions. Look, the girls ragged me so much, them little city girls. They ragged me relentlessly because I didn't have shoes and our britches, you know, the knees. Now they make them with the knees out. Well, these were for real knees out. So we would just take off running down a dirt road to get to the bus.

You know, kids how they are, they're running toward the bus. We'd get on there, you know, we'd side with no shoes, and we just went to school that way. Well, the little city girls, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, because they look down on us. Poor white dress. Well, when I hit about the 10th, 11th grade and got to be a football hero, they wanted to date me. I said, remember that time that was in the first grade? and you ragged me about being barefooted. I said,

you're out. Good. She said, your brother was naked. Well, I'm just saying. Weird out. We were country people trying to blend in to city life,

and it came slow. So, one of my favorite Aunt Judy's stories, your older sister, because apparently, Cy also had a sleep, a bed wedding, and I've heard you tell that,

and a sleepwalking problem. Well, I knew about the sleepwalking. He was. So he would go great distances asleep. Well, right. She said, so she said she and her boyfriend were sitting out on the, you know, I guess this is the way you date, you know, out on the front steps, you know,

so I guess everybody can keep an eye on it. Sit on the porch. Sit on the porch. And here comes sigh with his tidy witties, sound asleep. I thought he was naked. No, he had, he had underwear. No, he was like, junior high, high, high, he was bigger. So at some point, he moved up to Tarzan.

He comes out. He comes out. By necessity, because they did have a code. You can't come up here. naked. So he went to Tarzan without the body. That's right. Get him had a little skinny side? No. And so look, he, he, and they're sitting there on the steps, then they look up and see him, which is, you know, kind of troubling, I'm sure, to Judy, because here's her little brother, she's trying to date here. And he just splits him. He walks right in between him, doesn't look to the

right or the left. His eyes are open, but he's just, you know, glassy, just looking off in space. And he goes out and he starts just walking down the road, on the road. Yeah. Sound asleep. Yep. And then they ran after him and woke him up. He has no idea how he got there. But the reality show experts, you know, the ones in the know, out of all of us, they said there's one, though, was just raw talent. The one that is not ashamed to step across that line and act like a complete idiot. He said, the one that does that, that's what you call talent.

And I said, I missed that. I just thought it was stupidity. He said, oh, no, that's talent, dude. And that's why I was a star. the show. He was. I mean, do you miss up at the workplace? Oh, he comes up there and sees us every once in a while. Does he? Yeah. He gets tired of sitting home.

He comes up there and tells us what we're doing wrong. So I was the duck call Reed man for how many years, Jay's? I'd say 10. Yeah, he's about a decade. Oh, yeah, he looks at Jackie's Reeds every time. Oh, dude, he needs. So there was an episode. Jackie. Oh, yeah, Jackie. Yeah, he's good.

That's what the duck calls got better. When Sae got moved out to the pasture. So there's an early episode on Duck Dynasty where Cy comes in. It was the one the Swede was on. Somebody asked me about the Swede. And he comes in and he just like dumps a boxer reads out on the show. And it's like, boys, I'm out of here. I quit.

That's the last read I'll ever do. It's the reason I don't remember that because he quit all the time. Well, that's right. But in reality, reality show, that's exactly what he did. As soon as the show took off, and then it was like, he was like, I ain't building no more. Because, you know, we're still trying to, now we're selling more duck calls than ever. A lot of people might not realize about Silas Merritt, Silas Merritt Robertson, is Silas Merritt. Named after your mom.

And y'all, y'all will probably back me up on this. He's one of the godliest guys I've ever run up. Well, he is. Awesome. If he's got a bob on his hand, we're good. But outside of that, we got problems. I'm going to get him some clothes for Christmas this year after hearing this story. He'll tell you.

I don't want him to revert back to his childhood, you know, because that's what they said. Bill said you ran naked until you started going to school. And then it was a major ordeal around after a while. He'll tell you about it. Because they say when people get old, they revert back to their childlike ways. Whoa, whoa. So, so, so now with the coronavirus and Godwin has seen him, y'all probably didn't see him. y'all probably didn't see him in a while so he's got a little gut on him you know for the first time ever

and it's he's kind of embarrassed about it because he keeps talking about it like he's like he's got to get rid rid this gut i got to get rid of this gut i said yeah i saw him last night i didn't see a gut it's a little it's not like it's just a pooch it's just a small but skinny as he's been all these years he just now developed i don't know he must be eating well whatever well that's what he's saying ain't doing anything and he's got his copd doesn't allow him to do a lot but the problem is i said sigh you're years old as at this point a little pooching gonna really at this because he wouldn't he didn't eat something somebody had a delicious dessert and he passed fame and fortune couldn't have come to a better guy that's right so i might weigh 120 pounds well he's probably about 130 now yeah he's thin he's

he's always has been he's always been like it and he's got that like the scoliosis like granny had and judy and now phyllis has it too the shoulder blade gets out of whack something about their spine. They've got an issue their genetic. You don't want to go back too far in that gene poo. That's some redneck just went by. Because we're in the lair, we're deep in the enclaves. So that's no muffler.

No, that's it well. Not even that long. Yeah, there's a certain distance when you get out towards fields where mufflers are optional. And everybody, if you see somebody walking on the side of the road, they're armed. Have you noticed that? Oh, yeah. There's a woman.

She's got a pistol on both sides. She's walking like, just pull over. I dare you. The city dwellers would be really surprised. They're going to come down in here and start tearing her up because everybody I know. Here's some of those rioters when they say, oh, we're coming to your neighborhood. We're coming to the country. I was thinking, well, we might want to rethink that because you start showing up in some areas down here with a mischief on your mind.

Maybe that's why all the signs from 15. miles out. Every one of them had bullet holes in it. They said, they was coming, but they turned around. They said, no. When you see all the bullet holes in the sign, that's aside you don't want to be going down and there with mischief. I tell people, they're either angry, they're having a bad day, or they're

not that rifle in. It's not that complex. I just think they watched enough TV. They just watched enough TV and they're like, okay. Yeah. That's where we're going to do this. That's, let's get it on. I know when we have.

But you're right. They're all armed. Every one of them. Well, it's funny because we're all armed at the teeth anyway. Of course, we live close to town. But whenever we had somebody, you know, try to spread a few shots in our neighborhood, all of us doubled down and went for another full round. I mean, how much we spend, five grand with some more weapons.

Look, I got one that's got a clip on it, a pistol that has 30 in it. I said, you talk about somebody 30 times? You want to try to mess. It's not paranoia. It's just preparedness. Right. Prepared. Just in case.

Just in case. Thin line. The in line. I mean, because, you know, people have mischief on their mind. So welcome officially. Thank you. John Godwin. Is this your first time here?

Well, on the podcast. Oh, yeah. He's never been on the podcast for, which I thought was an oversight on our part. Godwin, how well you? Did some of the Robertsons convert you? Yeah, you did. Oh, I did. There you go.

Well, I didn't know that. Well, welcome my board, brother. He was the first left winger. You converted. I remember this story. You actually were out of duck calling, kind of. Hang on. Hang on.

Before you tell that, we've got to take a first break. So how'd your conversion come about? I've forgotten. Well, when I come down here. Tell about the first, tell about the first time you met that. The first time. I love this story. When I grew up hunting, you know, dad, honey, kept me in the woods, which was great.

And we're from like an hour south of here. Columbia, right? Yeah. So we deer hunted, dove hunting, squirrel hunting. That's all we didn't duck hunt. And this guy moved in our neighborhood and invited us to go duck hunting. We did. And it got me.

When he started calling them ducks and they responded. And then when they just cup and that wind, just the hair on the back of my neck would stand up. You had hair on the back of the neck. Then I did. Yeah. And I was 14 years old. Can you believe that?

14. When you showed up here? No, no. The first time I met you. I'm sure you know you were 14. I'm sure you remember this, that. So you were 14. I was 14.

I was just, I was 14 or 15. Of course, we could get a driver's license at 15 then. So you had your permit at 14th? So I was either driving or just fixing to start driving. But anyway, the duck hunt, it intrigued me so much I wanted to learn how to call because just seeing him call him ducks and I'm responding is what got me.

And he blew the old old keyhole then. And so that's what I learned on. And he was going to, what's the name of that school? Bartler Fault, something like that. You was going to be there. I didn't know it. This would have probably been in late 70s. Yeah.

When were you for it? So, Phil, you were going to, what was he doing at a school? I was going, they had a duck calling contact. Oh, at the school? Yeah. Boy, the world's changed now. Because dad used to do a lot of youth things like this. So we went and my buddy was going to enter it.

I wasn't planning on enter it. I was just learning how to call, but I was getting, I was catching on. And so me and dad went and sat down in the audience and he said, you better go warm up and I said for what he said because I entered you oh so he paid your entry fee I said so wouldn't you want to do something like that for now you're nervous now I got to be in the duck count so I went back there I was nervous I was all these guys and um come back and sit down and daddy had bought me a duck commander duck call but I wasn't very good on it because a double read I was used to that single read and he asked and you were 14 yeah he said

you're going to blow that duck commander call? I said, no, I think it sounded like crap. When I said that, there was a guy sitting in front of me with a big beard. He turned around and said, my name's Phil Robertson. I build those calls. Oh, boy. And I felt about that tall. And he said, let me see that thing.

I give it to him. And he pulled it apart and redone the read or something, just reseed it and stuck in his barrel. and blew it, and that thing took off. And he said, hey, I fixed it. I said, well, thank you. I didn't even know who he was. But he was there. You was doing a demonstration, and you spoke.

And, man, that was something. And I'd asked you about that several times, but you hadn't remembered it. But now, 24, I was thinking about this, 24 years after, I said that to you. I'm cutting, you trying me to cut the end pieces on that same DC 200 call. So you ended up working for us. He ended up working for it. And you just passed.

21 years? 21 years. What was your conversions? Before you, we hired John, we normally don't hire them unless they're brothers. Well. It's like you have to, what is it? You have to watch, you have to watch Outlaw Josie Wales. Yeah.

Better be a brother. That's right. out and around here. Well, Ms. Paula, we had just adopted Johanna, and I was, you know, I was going crazy, drinking a bunch, smoking dope. Running the bars. She was wanting me to straighten up, and we need to go to church. And I'm like, I'm thinking.

You know where I'm headed to that point in my life. I thought you did that, but you just started sick. You were in the depths of hell, we understand. Right at the moment you said that your chair dropped, T.C. I know it. I thought you had some kind of handle on it. It's a miracle. I always like to do the effect.

Boy, you bring coffee on here. We got theatrics. We got everything. But anyway, I'm glad you got down there. A woman wants you to straighten up. I don't know why because, I mean, you know, I wasn't, I was thinking in my mind I wasn't, I was going to the bar some. Well, we was actually right before that married, living single lives.

And she'd go out with the girls. I'd go out with the guys. But I'd kind of quit that after we got Johanna. And I was just going to friends' house after work, you know, when I'd work evenings or something. And I wouldn't, I mean, I wasn't going to the bars. I was still drinking and doping and all that, but, you know. Everything was like a lot of people. You were comparing while I'm not as bad as I once was.

Yeah. So that was the daughter. Because when you have a, you know, son or a daughter, that alone makes you realize, well, maybe I might ought to set a good example. So being a husky guy, did we say something like, come on down and have him here with it? I wasn't husky then. No, he was a. Yeah.

And you were actually a bull rider. Road Bulls, man, Tony rodeo. Motorcross, bull rider. John has quite the history of. So pick up the story from there? And so I met Tony Neal, and we rodeoed together. That's what the bull riding. And I hadn't seen him for a couple of years.

And all of a sudden he calls me out of the blue, inviting me to church. Well, I busted out laughing because I knew what he'd been doing because I'd been doing it with him. And he's like, no, I'm serious. I said, yeah, well, I ain't ready, ball. I wasn't ready. I ain't want to be around no holy roller. Yeah. He kept calling me, invite me,

and Paula kept saying we need to go visit churches. So it was coming on duck season, and I got me an idea. I'm going to go to Tony's church because you go there, because he slicked me into coming to his house. I want you to come see my house what he said. It was on Sunday night. We're going to cook hamburgers.

And I went over there. It was house church. Oh, I was mad. I was mad. And they did eat that? But you did eat your hamburger. Yeah. Well, his daddy was up there, he was my drinking buddy, cooking the hamburgers.

And we was up there getting beer and cups, and them church folks wouldn't see us. You was there doing a lesson. That's how I mentioned. So this was starting out shaky at best. Yeah. So were they in Red Solo cups? It was the full.

It had to be the full, yeah. Oh, yeah. And I didn't know all that was going on behind the scene. Oh, yeah. Oh, you're learning stuff today. So. Guy was going to illuminate. Man.

I got me an idea because duck season's coming on. I needed a new duck call. And you went to Tony's church. So I'm going to go to Tony's church and Miss Paula's going to be happy because I went to church. And I'm going to meet you and maybe get a duck call. And that's what I did. I'm going to kill me two birds with one stone.

Boy, it ended up, it ended up, Galvin. You got way more than that. Boy, did Tony introduce me to you. And you said, bring him on down to the high. tomorrow at dinner time, which I'd learned right then to come down here at 12 o'clock every day. It's a practice you practice for a long time. Which we now lovingly call the Duck Commander 50. You're going to put on 50 pounds.

Or 75. In my case. So I come down, you built me a duck call, and you said, all right, God. You said, what are you? doing here. You've been messing up? I said, no. I mean, why not lie, right? Just add to the rest of the stuff. How are you going to lie is Phil Robertson, you know? He said, yeah, you have. That's why you're here. And you started telling me about Jesus and what he'd done for me. And I was just like, all this stuff. What year, you asked me what year it was in 1996 then.

and that Jesus had come 1996 years ago, now 2020 years. And man, some of this stuff was just, I couldn't. It was just, I was washing over me. And I started thinking about, you know, sometimes I go to the bar. And the next day I'd wake up and I'd think, I don't think I was very good last night. You know, in the back of your head, but you couldn't wait for it to get. get dark so you could go back.

And you asked me, you said, what about sin? You think you've seen? And I just kind of looked at the ground. You said, would you do Saturday night? I said, yeah. I see. Dad always has a way, right? Well, this is funny, but I'd never, you know.

I probably was thinking, well, at least he's honest. Yeah, after you had tar again. This sounds like a fourth time you got to try to pride out of them. But you just went on telling me how much he loved us and how much he went to the cross force and he was buried and raised again. I'd never heard that. And I didn't respond that day. I had to go back.

You told me something I'll never forget. This is what made me feel this man just ain't trying to get something. you said you got a Bible at your house and I said yeah I think there's one around there somewhere he said you said go back and lock the door won't nobody be able to see you reading your Bible and he said you said read Luke and axe he said and make sure everything I'm telling you here today is true don't put you faith in me I want you to put you faith in God and that really meant a lot to me well hang on let's take a break so how long And so then how long was it then before you made the move to? So did we baptize in the river? No. No. I was there.

Then I was baptized. Yeah. That's where I entered. I just couldn't. You know, I was hearing all this stuff and I couldn't get by it. And but I'm still like, I ain't sure about these people. But what you was telling me was very, I mean, it was made sense. And so I did.

I went back and I read my Bible and I got to the end of Luke and where he just appeared into the room where all his buddies His resurrects. Yeah, off his running buddies was up there and they were spooked because he just appeared. Because this is like the redneck paraphrase

His buddies were spooked because they thought it was a spook. He was dead and go ahead. Well, I would be scared, too. I mean, if I'd seen one of y'all just appear. After I died. And he said, look at me, I'm not a ghost. Ghost don't have flesh and bone like you see I have.

And he ate fish with them. And I got to thinking what he said. Yeah, me too. No, that's what you were thinking. I like. I like fish. And it got to thinking, he said, we get our bodies back. Yeah.

Which is something I'd never hurt. So now you're reading it I'm reading it. The reason they were scared is they realized they recognized him because he was him. They saw him die. It was his body and he was back. And I said, man, I maybe need to get entered in this.

Well, God would that is, I had the same exact thought when I read the same exact words. Really? Fish fries in heaven. I was just thinking there's a way to live again. I mean, it's weird how we all come from different backgrounds of different stories. So how long did it take once you were converted before we hired you? Well, let me go back, though, because the night, because this is where I entered John's life,

which we're, you know, really close friends now. And Lisa and Paul are best friends as well. So Tony Neal, who was the guy, because we talk about a lot of people ask us on the podcast, how do I share my faith? I mean, Tony was a good example for that for John. And like he straightened his life up. And so then he thought, well, I got friends, kind of like you did with your friends, but you didn't go down the road, but you thought I want them in.

And so people will say, well, how do I talk about it? Just like he did. I mean, he just said, have a conversation and get him to somebody. Well, let me say something right quick about that. Tony's a home builder, and we was getting our house built. He was going to build it. So we was starting to spend a lot of time with him, you know, over at his house. And something I noticed.

He was acting the same on Tuesday as he did on Sunday, which was different. Because all them boys had worked I would work with, they was Christian too, but I was getting drunk with them every Saturday night. So, you know, they was telling me they were Christian. Everybody talked a good game on Sunday, which is, Dad, you make the point all the time, how you live your life speaks as much as you think. That's exactly right. So Tony calls me, I just got back from a trip, you know, Chad Johnson.

had been on the road. I was speaking somewhere. And it was, you know, 10 o'clock at night. I was tired. We'd been driving. And Tony calling said, I got one of my best friends. Phil shared the gospel with him a while back. He's ready to, you know, totally commit. And we're going to baptize him. We're down here at the building. He said, but, you know, I feel like maybe would you mind coming down here and just kind of going through it one more time so he really understands it? Because, you know, Tony's new, and so he wasn't sure he got everything right. So we're all. So we're all fired up even though we were tired. I said, yeah, come on. So I roll in, and there's Godwin, first time I'd ever met him.

And Paula's sitting over there. And she instantly, like, when I came in, like everybody said, hey, this is Al, you know. And, of course, I was working for the church. But Paula was, like, standoffish to me, which is funny now because we're all so close. You know, and I didn't, I thought, what's wrong with that old gal? You know, I thought, man, this old boy here, he's got a rough one there. So because she was just like super standoffish. She wouldn't even like hardly speak to me.

I'd go through it with John. And so John's like, all right, I'm ready to hit it. And so it's all right, let's go down here. And so Tony baptized you. So we were walking down there. And then Paula, the first thing she says to me is she says, well, I'm not getting baptized. And I look around like, you know, I was like, I didn't know you were there.

You know, I was just kind of because I'd been. And she'd been nagging on me. Yeah. To go to church. Turns out, Paula had had a bad experience with a pastor in her past. where she felt like he really put the pressure on her to get baptized or something. So she kind of had a thing about preachers. She didn't care for it.

So she, which is funny now, they were all so close. But in that moment, she was like, of course, you know, and then she hit it a little bit later too. But that was my first time. It turns out we had just built a house in Calhoun. And John and Paula had bought the land right across the street from us. And so I didn't know it at the time, but that was the house that Tony was going to build for you guys.

And so that started a now 20 plus year relationship. of it we lived across the street from the gobbels so we raised our families together you know through the whole process that was 96 yeah that's when it started yeah oh january the 21st last dead duck season 1996 so 24 years later and you're still at that late no wonder I was so tired so so we hired you what a year or two after that or whatever no it was a few years it was in first I worked I was still working at riverwood I worked at riverwood for 21 years and By the way, and all that was swing shift. Yeah.

So, I mean, you know, the old deal about days, evenings, evenings, nights. I mean, those guys, I feel for him because it's hard to have a life flight, you know. I mean, he just, you know. Man Paula had one weekend off a month together. Yeah. So John would have to miss a lot of our groups and stuff because he was always working, you know. And he'd call us from work because he'd say, you know, he was missing it. You know, he wanted to be there part of the process.

Yeah. But it was 2019 I started part-time. And then Duck Man 7 that's when we was gone to Texas you said you about tired of that meal, ain't you?

I was thinking in my head, yeah. And you said, you might as well come to work for me. And me and Mr. Kaye talked about it. I all had a big part, I think. Yeah, I was helping grease the wheel. And so we did. 21 years I go. So now you've been

my 21st year. You've been full time for Duck Commander longer than you worked at the mill this year. Yeah. You finally transitioned that which is pretty awesome. And they're still working to this day. Yeah. So let's take another break. Yeah, in fact, so John puts duck calls together now.

Of course, you work at the warehouse. Yeah. Which is funny because like when the show ended, like most of the family we quit didn't do day to day anymore i mean jason ever went back you're still associated with the company but you don't do a lot of day to day right yeah i mean i tried to quit and willie's like oh no no it's like the mafia you get you never get it fully like i'm like a consultant but he's like you know just be there when i need you but he don't call much so so what's the biggest difference in me and uh stone kind of heading up the duct call

department now main guy well i just don't listen to him So, Gavin, it's kind of funny since you do work for Duck Commander now, but when's the last time you've seen me at Duck Commander at the main office up in everything? It's been this year. You come up there for something. Oh, probably to do some kind of radio hit or something, right? Might have, yeah.

He comes there and wants me to do some media, but you hadn't been there to do Duck calls. Of course, you know, Jay, when he'll come up with a new product, he always has to make sure jace likes it and he also comes even all these years later even though dad doesn't ever ask anybody to but he always comes to you too i mean i know it's like it's like the god by the way and what's what's really uh uh as it turned out the irony of it all is that when he i'm sitting in front of me he said this thing a piece of junk here well he ended up the last 20 years building them I would say, y'all probably sold in the last 20 years, millions.

A lot, a lot. So now the very duck call where it started at a little duck call rally, when people say, well, how do you reach people? And what do you say? You just form a little friendship with them. Come on down, sit around, and why will they have them meal here, you know, and just pouring them, just pouring them, tell them the story about Jesus.

But to your credit, most people, if they heard somebody say, this calls a piece of junk, most people would have flared up. Yeah. You tried around and say, hey, I build them. Yeah,

let me look, let me check that. Well, I just knew at that point, you know, he was young book, didn't know any better. Right.

Yeah. Operator pride. I was being kind. But the fact you were kind. I said, there's a possibility it might be you that can't blow it. No,

oh, are you talking to me? You probably said that. Everybody thinks you have the greatest dog probably was, you know? Do you know how many times I've had somebody,

come up there and they're like this thing won't work and I'm like turn it around what I've been duck hunting all my life try the other end turn the call around it'll work when I was like on it but I can't blow on it yeah well you've been in on many a good duck gun since then I have and videos and it led to so John on the show because a lot of people that know Godwin only knowing from the show, you know, because they didn't know all the history we just told. And, you know, everybody had kind of a role to play,

I guess would be the way to put it. And so I always felt like John, there was so much more to him than the show showed because he was usually the guy just with some crazy offhand comment. Well, you've spoken out of many, many, many, many engagements in the John probably travels more than any of us. I think, and that's what I tell everybody, the best thing that come out of Duck Dynasty

was getting to travel around and speak. I mean, it's opened quite a few doors because everywhere I go, it's people kind of like us. I mean, you don't see that in the news. I mean, America's great. You don't know that. We should make America great again. The news, the most of the media,

they don't ever concentrate too long on redneck. That's terrible. Not that you're a redneck. That's terrible. But I noticed Guy when I, I haven't talked to him in a while, but I noticed that Guy when he has a rare, rea, yeah, he's got a, that's what this woman told me in Utah I had an accent.

I said I didn't have it when I woke up. See, now that was a, that's a nasty laugh. So John and I get to travel. We travel a lot as John and Paula and Lisa and I just for fun. But we get to work travel some too. and because we got a good little tandem team thing we worked out. We just did some stuff in Utah.

We got one coming up in a couple weeks. But we, so last year we went to Oregon and I had spoken at a big men's one of these beast feasts, you know, like we all do. A thousand men. And look, it's just south of Portland, Oregon.

Just think about it. Really? Think about it right now. That's right. I go in there. A thousand men are there. Camo. I mean, I thought, I got up in front of that crowd, I said, I didn't know they were rednecks

in Oregon, of course, they're hooping and holler. And I thought, we got, they're everywhere. The core is there. Even New York. Exactly. So I, New York City, north of there up in the woods, you get up in there. Oh, they're killing, they're shooting, wolf, half, half cow, is telling me their problem. They're getting their cattle, you know. We're out there. You just got to find them. So I was a bunch of goose hunters up there. I spoke at this event. Good people. And then the next year, they called me and they were like, hey, you got any idea? Can you get one of your brothers? You know, I get this all the time.

I said, well, they're busy. I said, what about there's my buddy John Godwin? He'd be perfect for this. They were like, he speaks. Again, just only thinking from the show, like, can he put two sentences together? I said, oh, he'll be good. I said, and I'll come with him and preach on Sunday because they wanted me to preach on Sunday. So we went out together.

Yeah. And I love it when the audience, because John gets up there. So the audience, they were familiar with the show. In fact, they showed a bunch of clips of you before he got up. And he's John doing all these crazy stuff. stuff on the show. And so I can tell they're looking like, well, this guy, their thing is going to be like, would be like Mountain Man got up to speak. And he goes, oh, I don't know if this is going to go. So John starts into his story and he does the Duck Call demonstration, which is really funny. He's got a

whole bit he does about the women and versus the Drake's versus the Hens. And so, but I'm watching this audience and there was like, this guy. And it was really neat because I'm out there with them. So I'm feeling it. They're like surprised. you know and then he just knocks it out of the park and he just tells his own story his testimony just what he just shared on the podcast and so i love that the audiences get to discover there's a depth to you john that that they didn't know was there because that's what tv does it kind of distort sometimes the realities of it i guess would be the way i would say it well godwin you've done well my man you really have yeah let's take uh let's take one last break so godwin so

where have you been lately because you've brought a box in here so we've got this come from london Really? England? Kentucky. Oh. I think to say. I was trying to find my London accent. Cheerio.

Hello, mate. I would take some more. Stand still, laddie. What is that from? One of pink florids famous lines. Stand still, leave them kids alone. Yeah, that was the brick wall. Yeah.

So London, Kentucky. London, Kentucky. I bet they don't. It's not a British accent in London, Kentucky. Well, let me tell you, if you were in England, they would recognize your accent. Yeah, there you go. I would have an accent over there. Yeah, they'd say, you're not from around here.

I'd say new. So open the box, I'm going to see what's in. All right. Tell us about it. This, Dan Collard, he's the senior pastor for Faith Assembly of God in London, Kentucky, where I spoke. One of his guys that goes to church with him, Hawk Creek Armory. senior AR hanging on

the deal there by your chair yeah it's probably there right now he said that thing needs to be redone so he sent this to you well I didn't know wait a minute wait a minute

I said he's done well but he's we lost your mic Phil in all the excitement yeah Well, what do you know? We got a little reveal. Got a little reveal. Are you telling me they gave me that or you that?

They gave me that. I'm just going to... No, it's your... I hadn't even looked at it yet myself. Break that pistol out. Wow. Look at there. And it's got a...

Let me see that thing. Yeah. Where do you have? Just for safety. safety first yep now notice on the receiver over here on the other side

godwin uh x 15 you can check with miss k but what does it have on it you possibly could get a raise you might get a raise over this well wait a just got a raise

there's a clip in there does that get extra what is the verse on there acts 15 it just says acts the whole chapter well what do you know well let me see Well, you tell you, old brother, there's a clip.

I appreciate that. Well, we didn't even know that, John. So for our audio-only audience, we are, just so you know, we are looking at an AR-15. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's not what it says at all. I was way off. Oh, I'll fix it south.

This is Psalms 23-4. Well, you were close. Boy, Acts 15, Psalm 23-4. I didn't say it. A-50. I said that was the model number. Oh, A-R-15. I didn't say it was a Bible scholar, Jason.

A-C-A-15. And these people thought Duck Dynasty made him up. No, he's for real. Now, some of our audience, ladies and gentlemen, are going to say, to wait a minute, they seem to get all excited over a weapon. It's on the side here. Well, I know Psalm 23.

I would just say. walk through the valley. To all of you out there in the computer land, it may come down to this, but in the meantime, for cotton mouths and such, and self-defense. But,

Govind, good night, son. I appreciate that. I had no idea. And I got a clip for you, too. Boy, I'm about to yank this off my head. I'm hung up here. It's not funny, but even though I walk through the,

valley of the shadow of death I will fear no evil for you are with me. Your rod and your staff, I guess in your AR-15. In your AR-15 they comfort me. It's a weapon but the staff is going over to

this little puppy. The staff has been upgraded. Yeah. We've upgraded so on. And the guy that built this for you, he built it personally. His name's Robertson. Robertson. Really? Well, he may be

again. Might be. The blood, the Robinson blood. It could be, could be weeds. Especially up in that area. By the way, we came through, their kinfolks, Tennessee, Kentucky. They got in covered wagons.

It came this way, but that's where, you know, James Robertson. So I was just in Nashville last weekend, and I was talking. They got a statue, but the Black Lives Matter find out, it's gone. Oh, boy, that's right. We better not let them know. They got a statue of some of our kin up there.

I saw it one time. Yeah, there's one of the main thoroughfares there. I think he was an ex-governor of Tennessee. Yeah, he was something like that. He discovered part of that area. Somebody sent me up, dang, when he's... How do you discover something? DNA deals, and they said, we tracked you to this Roberts up in Tennessee.

Right. When goes, yeah, all the way that. So... Well, I think there's a Robertson County in Tennessee. Really? Yeah. Our people came from Tennessee. I thought we came from Scotland.

Well, we did originally. Scotland came over. But they wound up in Tennessee. Yeah. James Robertson, he's quite a character. He was an explorer type about 1600. So what would he have been? I wonder how far past Paul.

I hate to tell this. When we went to Scotland, the guy showed me, and James Robertson, he showed me it was 1,600 and something. Oh, wow. But he'd come over here. He was the one that came across the pond. Jeff and I, because we were, Pathfinder types, you know.

Jeff and I were going to go metal detect our reach. And so we go down this road for a couple days. seeing where we're from. And I hate to tell you this. But our ancestors there in Tennessee, there were a bunch of moonshiders and bootleggers. Is that right? Yeah.

That's why I didn't want you to go back too far. Well, that's what I'm saying. Be careful what you wish for. I need to go on Ancestry.com and look at some of those people. You already see some of the pictures. They're quite funny. And a lot of them had multiple names, you know. Marriage was kind of optional.

I need to get a picture to Cole or engineer that's, I show sometimes when I go on the road. So I don't know what he would have been. Your great grandfather was James Jeff the Robert, or Judge Jeff the Roberts? Yeah. That's my dad's dad. Okay. So there's a picture.

I got a picture of him. Really? And I put the picture of you next to it. I mean, it's scary. Well, the one Jeff showed. Oh, the big long beard, the nose. I mean, it's you. Yep.

The one from the 16 or 1700. He had a gunfight with the federal rallies. Our federal government, the federal government killed him. He had a, he had a. Well, most of these people that we looked up, they got him. They all died, violent deaths. Yep. So, well, I'm sure.

So Godwin on the show, they called you Godwin the stout. But where are you from? Have you done any research on the people? I did do some. When I was in Scotland, I looked and found that there was a king Godwinson. Really? So you got royalty. You better believe it.

Just ask me, I'll tell you. You need to tell Jay that. You need to say, you need to treat me with a little more respect. I am royalty, you know. So we all came from Scotland. I guess so. Well, you know, I know we did because they have the Robertson Museum. We visited.

Here we are. We got the band back together. We're getting the band back together. And we have ARs now as part of the process. A.R's. I say, boy, how did I miss that? HCA 15 is what was on it. And you thought it said X 15.

Yeah, well, I just seen the A and 15 and it looked familiar. Well, I'll tell you what, Gavin, I guess going forward, you're always going to be welcome on the podcast, especially when you bring gifts like that. Jason and I are expecting something, you know, something similar next time. Well, and it shows how humble you are, because most people, when they go speak in an event,

and they're like, look, we have a gun for your friend Phil. Thanks for coming. Most people would be a little upset about that. You seem pretty happy about it. Well, if I had to never show it up down here, I wouldn't ever be speaking. Yeah. That's right. You wouldn't have had the opportunity.

I had to say, Godwin loves Jesus and his wife is awesome. Paula's one of my favorite people on the planet. I tell her that every time I see her. And I got to marry Johanna, I got to do the wedding, which was very touching for us. And John and Paula were there for Lisa and some of our daughters. darker days. John was my buddy. He was good at just listening. You know, he didn't try to give me too much. You know, just need to vent some, you know, and so I always say everybody needs a friend like Godwin just to work through the rough patches. And we did the same for them.

Yeah, going down this memory lane, I'm shocked that I don't remember too much of it. I'm shocked that you're shocked. You're a lot of them. I'm shocked your shot by them. The line is one that made the cut. The line of the podcast was now, how'd you come to the Lord? Who brought you to the Lord? You did. Okay. Okay. That was embarrassing.

Well, actually, Tony brought me to. Yes, right. So, John, you're always welcome. Oh, thanks for having. Yeah, we appreciate you being here today. It's fun. I may be embarrassed to watch this and now. I'll probably make wood duck calls that day.

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