Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 138 | Phil's Hurricane Prepping, Jase's Monster Gator Story, and Judas the Virtue-Signaler

Episode Date: September 2, 2020

With the power out after Hurricane Laura, Phil, Jase, and Zach are podcasting from Jase's old stomping grounds at Duck Commander. Phil is definitely the man you want to be around when the Apocalypse h...appens. Jase gives a rundown of the storm damage, describes the horrifying scene when he opened his fridge, and shares a story about the capture of a massive alligator. And the guys discuss Mary perfuming Jesus' feet in John 12, Jesus' rebuke of Judas the virtue-signaler, and social justice vs. biblical justice. -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? When we're reading through this, the disciples, whether it's Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John. In other words, if you look in Matthew 12, like 16, only after Jesus was glorified. Tell me, John 12 or Matthew? John 12? only at first his disciples did not understand all this he's talking about the prophets here's my point you have a group of individuals and the one that all the prophets said was coming was in fact here blessed is who comes in the name of the lord hosanna you know that's psalms
Starting point is 00:00:54 118 but look these guys you would have had to go to the temple or some synagogue and drag up some old scrolls and know right where to look to find out that do not be afraid, old daughter of Zion, see your king, blessed is the king of Israel, it says in John 12, 12 and following there.
Starting point is 00:01:18 So here's the king, so you can't have a king without having a kingdom, and they're trying to figure this out. You know, when's it coming on? I am, I'll make a point on it. I think the ironic part, is then the...
Starting point is 00:01:30 Let me finish my little statement. He came up on a donkey. Yeah. So my point is, we think that why did they have so much difficulty realizing that he was the king of the cosmos was on the earth and they're walking around with him? Well, we have the luxury of having it written down.
Starting point is 00:01:54 After it's already happened from the beginning to the end, they were participating in these events as they were unfolding, unaware of all of the scriptures that pointed to them. These guys were just, you know, Peter, commercial, he didn't know all these texts to go to to prove that, you know. It just be hard to. It's a hard sale. Hard sale.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Now, 2,000 years later, even having all the information from start to finish the beginning and the end, the whole explanation, and all you got to do is and you can look it up with a computer, seconds, you can find the verses. We're sitting here
Starting point is 00:02:38 with the luxury of having the entire story told. What we're reading in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John wasn't quinted at the time, wasn't in print. And even when they got it finally in print,
Starting point is 00:02:53 there weren't many copies. I mean, the rank and file person could miss this so fast. So we need to remember that as we go through. And you say, well, why were these guys still not quite getting it? You're like, they didn't have the information. They're with him.
Starting point is 00:03:09 They're seeing some strange things. But they're like, but even to this day with all the information, look how hard it is to present Jesus. And they say, good. That's the way out of here. You would thank more people. But you understand what I'm saying. Yeah, he actually makes that point.
Starting point is 00:03:27 in chapter 20 after all the all it's recorded everything that happened yeah and he's like jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples which are not recorded in the book i'd like to see or hear those then it says but these are written this is 30 and 31 of chapter 20 these are written that you may believe that jesus is the christ there's enough here where you can't Miss it. Can't miss it. That's right. So, well, it's kind of weird if you're joining us.
Starting point is 00:04:04 We've lost Al. We did. We've had a hurricane. The power is out, so we're actually back in my old stomping grounds. Look familiar? This is Duck Commander. Pandemic out of nowhere, rioting and looting and shooting. And Carl Marx enthusiasts are getting out here with ideologies.
Starting point is 00:04:25 we're going to take over the world. We'll start tearing down the statue. And I look up, I said, boy, that was bad. We had a pandemic. Well, now this group's running around. That's bad. While I look up, here comes a hurricane. I mean, I'm cutting my way out of where I live with a chainsaw to even get out of there.
Starting point is 00:04:44 I said, I need to have me an escape route somehow. I'm just trees like, like, I'm not kidding, oak trees this big around or just blocking the road. I went over to where we dug out there, Jay's. You hadn't been there. But I would say hundreds and hundreds of big trees fell in every direction. It took us two days to, with a bulldozer, me and Dan, Dan came out with his blood vessels burst in his feet. And the last word I heard him say after we got done.
Starting point is 00:05:24 that second day and we had a bulldozer and a chainsaw and I said we're going to the woods all these trees across the road the last word I heard from Dan the eunuch was he got outside the vehicle and he's he's staggering like that I said Dan you you're all right and he said everything's spinning field everything's spinning that's not good that's the last time you saw him yeah I said everything is spinning so a day later I said we'll get you some rest I mean or calm down and slow down. He said, I got to get some food in me, Phil. So his food is uncooked egg whites and algae mixed up.
Starting point is 00:06:01 And, you know, he's a muscle man. But he said, Phil, you did what I've never done to myself. He said, I've never pushed myself past that threshold. He said, but you did it today with that chainsaw and that bulldozer and then beaver dams. Well, I've noticed your inner circle, they're just really weird, you know. those guys did he go to the doctor there's some heirs of the world
Starting point is 00:06:27 which is where I've got by in camp but down on the river jays you were raised there there's some areas in the world where it seems it attracts weird people and I always tell them I said the good news is
Starting point is 00:06:42 weirdness is in down here you're fine if you were not a little weird I would be surprised so But Dan, he made it. He had blood vessels in his feet burst. And, you know, when your blood vessels burst, your feet, they just become purple underneath the skin.
Starting point is 00:07:05 They just purple. What happened? What was the prognosis or the diagnosis? It was about after the, after the sawing, I'm sawing the trees, which I'm 74 years old for crying out loud. I'm cutting these tree big limbs and I'm cutting it in. the blocks that a man can pick up if he's a man. So I'm cutting just big enough to where he can pick them up and throw them in the ditch and get him out of the way.
Starting point is 00:07:29 So I'm just cutting, we're going. Well, that's where we started. He took out the Beaver Dam on the dog. It was just logs and mud. It was a rough deal. It's about 35, 40 minutes. And it's 100 degrees. Yep, 100 degrees.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Hot, hot, hot. He got them out of the way. Well, then we're on the beaver dams. well he's got a beaver now out there and that's where he started going south and he went to waving on me head and he said it feels like needles all over my body i said what he said needles are pricking me yeah that's dehydration probably i told him to have it checked when the blood vessels burst in the feet i said i never heard dan you're 34 years old blood vessels breaking in your feet we've got i know we have a doctor probably watching so maybe we'll get a not enough algae maybe he had the wrong
Starting point is 00:08:17 We get a diagnosis from our... I thought maybe it was the uncooked egg whites and the algae. I said, you know, you drink that. Your feet would blow off your body. I don't know. Maybe I'm right. So here's the interesting thing, though, that... Because you guys are in, and I've just moved to North Carolina, so I'm out of the Louisiana.
Starting point is 00:08:36 But this is almost Arkansas. And you guys got to... What was it, a category one when it hit? I would say the win at times. I've seen a lot of wins in my setting it for a year. But this was like... like 50 to 60 gust. 50 and, you know, 56 a mile hour.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Phil, it was more than that. It might have been more than that. It was a roar. I would say 80 to a hundred. I'm looking out. I could see trees hitting, but I've never seen so much debris. Yeah, I mean, we just pulled in town last night
Starting point is 00:09:06 because I'm filling in for Al, which is... Where is Al? We don't know. Al, I think he's at a speech, doing a speech. You know, speech rhymes with beat. That's right. But when you see a 200. 250-year-old oak tree just bite it and just collapse in the woods.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I mean, I love trees so much, but, man, it hurt to see some of them, some of our landmarks, old big oak trees. Well, you know my old house that was the oldest house in North Louisiana, I have like three magnolia trees that are the biggest trees in North Louisiana. They're the biggest magnolia trees I've ever seen. They're gone? One of them. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I mean, my wife got teary-eyed it. And it kind of, I mean, I was a little bit upset. I just, and it didn't, the root wad didn't come out. It just snapped right at the base. Was it in the back? No, in the front. Like if you were sitting in the front of the house, the one on the left, the biggest one. And look, here's what's funny.
Starting point is 00:10:06 It, not funny, but when it fell, you know, I got this white fence out there that's 150 years old. And Missy, like, loves that fence. I mean, it doesn't look like, oh, wow, but it's a 150-year-old fence. But the tree limb actually caught itself, and it's right above the fence. The fence was, I mean, here's this massive, however much, you know, how much you think it tree weighs, thousands of pounds. Tons. And it's just right above it.
Starting point is 00:10:37 So we lost probably half the trees. And you know that pear tree that you go get the pears? It snapped. And look, there were. I would say 150 pairs over the 11 acres. So I don't know if the wind turned the pairs into projectiles, but every few feet there would be another pair. Well, it could have been the critters came in.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I think I was the whim. It was a strange. But you lost power, right? Because you said, I just got power last. I was out for, what, three days, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. and the only thing where I really messed up because you know missies in Texas with her daughter so here I am by myself no power to hundred degrees I had between me and my neighbor we had six huge trees down and they like strategically fell where they didn't destroy our houses because I mean look that was a 15 minute period I thought I could very possibly do. guy here. Because my neighbor called me and he's like, sorry,
Starting point is 00:11:46 one of my trees hit your house. And I text back, yeah, I know. Because when it hit the house, I jumped three feet. I mean, it calum. And it, it punctured my roof, but, I mean, nothing major. And then, well, I went outside to kind of look at it. Well, I looked over it right in front of his house and one of his trees has fallen and it's
Starting point is 00:12:08 leaning up on another tree. So I call him back and said, hey, go to the other side of your house, because there's a tree fixing to fall on your house. Let's take a quick break. I said, do not come outside. It was it 10 seconds, and he pops his head out. And I see him looking up at it. I said, move back. And about that time, it broke from the limb, but instead of falling toward his house, it fell toward mine.
Starting point is 00:12:40 It fell right in between them. I mean, this thing, I took a picture of him in the root. the root while when it came out was about 12 feet high. I mean, incredible tree. I saw one after the other like that. Which go to show you, boys. Who was it, James? It said life is a vapor.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I mean, you know, life is short and full of trouble. So it's never going to be. This is not heaven on earth. I tell you what I did. When I saw that, then I had some anxiety, and I thought, well, this is out of my control. Because they were falling both sides of my house. That's right. And so I thought, you know what?
Starting point is 00:13:16 Because I had gotten up early because the trees started hitting the ground. That's what woke me up was a tree fell, you know, behind my house. I went out and it's like hurricane warning here. And so I just said, you know what? I'm going to go in here and go to sleep. I remember that story when Jesus, you know, when the storm. And I was like, because there's nothing I can do about this. I'm tired of going from one end to the house.
Starting point is 00:13:39 So I went to bed. And what woke me up was a chainsaw. And the guys, the Guatemalan family that works for Willie, they were cutting my tree off my roof, which I thought was really nice. But you didn't lose power, right? So you were good to go. Trees fell all around me. We are surrounded by gigantic trees within 10 feet of my house. You know, just right there.
Starting point is 00:14:03 We live in the woods. Tiring trees, oh, that's 250-year-old pines, virgin pine. And, you know, they're like this. But they all were left standing when the smoke cleared. But several people in Louisiana lost their life due to falling tree. More people died by falling trees than anything. Well, except now. A few minutes, I thought, man, we're going to.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Except now, guess what's taken over carbon monoxide poisoning because of generators? Oh, yeah. And I thought, you got to, because you're powered by generator right now, right? But it's about 60, 70 yards from the house. in the woods. It's not even near my house. You've got to get it over there. I thought how ironic is that?
Starting point is 00:14:48 I mean, you make it through the hurricane. Then you hook up a generator because you want to be comfortable. You don't want to hook a generator on your porch, carport, no. Get it out out away from your house. Do you know, it was the first time in history, in the history of Louisiana, that a hurricane warning was issued in North Louisiana. Because usually by the time they get here, they're, you know, I mean, this is used. and their metrics. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:13 You know, they're like, oh, it's got to be this wind speed to be a hurricane one or two. You know, I heard them before my power went off saying whether it was going to be a four or five because they were like, it's almost a five. Well, it was blowing 150 miles an hour. And to be a five, it was 157. I can't even imagine. I was like, do you actually think that those seven miles per hour is going to matter whether it's a four or a five?
Starting point is 00:15:39 It's just ridiculous. Well, they said the Mississippi River, and I saw the way. Washtaw River both flowed backwards, I guess, from the storm surge. It was a pretty big storm surge. Which wasn't as bad, though. They were calling for a 20-foot storm surge. They said it will be unsurvivable, but I don't think it ever got to 20. But I think the aftermath is what, because you don't realize it, I guess you never think
Starting point is 00:16:00 it's going to happen to you. I mean, I just thought, we've been through hurricanes before, but by the time they get to us, okay, wind damage, you know, we actually hunted it, teal hunted in one. Oh, yeah. And couldn't hit the ducts because the wind was blowing so hard. Really? We all ran out of shells. We did you chew one time and they'd just catch that wind, 50 mile our way.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Gone. They were hard to get. But where I messed up, because I've never had, I've never lost power to any storm, you know, up where I'm at. And I just didn't think that it was going to take days. And I'm like, because you couldn't find a generator anyway. I looked into that. It's too late.
Starting point is 00:16:44 You got to get that early. That was the two hottest items were generators and ice. I lost my power for 10 seconds. And that generac kicked on. And I said, boys, we're going to ride this one out. We're going to have power to you. Does it power the whole, everything you got? Everything I have and it's good for about a month or more.
Starting point is 00:17:05 It's a big propane tank that that thing runs off of. They monitor it from 100 miles south of us. they got a computer screen and they know when they got them all scattered out but they monitor them all via the computer so it kicked on and it's been running ever since
Starting point is 00:17:23 and more and more people started gathering up down there because it was cool when you walked in my house air condition you know so your place was the place to be it's like coming to town without a weapon which is it would never occur to me
Starting point is 00:17:38 I was when I drive when I drive when I drive When I go get the mail in my yard, I have a weapon on me. You packing now? I'm packing now. You have to. That's just the way with the pandemic. I ain't paranoid.
Starting point is 00:17:52 I'm just prepared. Oh, you're borderline paranoid. Prepared. Now, look, having the generator, because look, you told an illustration in a sermon one time that I never forgot, but I never appreciated it until this event happened. And what happened was I was scared to open that refrigerator or freezer. And, you know, I just tried to ignore it because I thought, man, you know, day one, day two, day three. And I thought, but then the power came back.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Keep it as cool as long as you can. That's what I admit. It's that I'm sure it'll be fine. Oh, yeah. That's a woman talking about. The refrigerator, there was a block of cheese there that is now green. Uh-oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:34 And all the, any meat that was in a bag, the bag had like, and the blood. the smell hit me like a wall. Then I opened the freezer, look, and blood just came out on the floor. And I thought, of course, I started gagging, you know. Well, here we go. And the drain pan, I mean, all that stuff drains into a pan. It's just a cesspool of just. Chase, you forgot that sermon I had preached, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:19:01 No, here's the sermon illustration you had. You said, I don't know if you remember that. This is like 25 years ago, and I never forgot it. You said a lot of people's lives, they're like, because we had the same thing happened down there to a freezer. And remember we had the little cook shack and you had a freezer there. Well, somebody had unplugged the freezer. Oh, man. But you didn't know it.
Starting point is 00:19:24 When you walk by, you're just looking at a brand new freezer. Looks awesome on the outside. But the first time you popped the lid, it was like same thing, experience I had just gagging on all. fours on the ground. But you made an illustration. You said that's the way a lot of people are like in the way they carry themselves. Everything's great on the outside, but inside, you know, it's just a rotten mess. And I thought, yep, I get it now.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Because it just, I smell nothing because I thought if it was bad stinking, I would smell it. Nope. When I popped the door, it just. I had a freezer adjacent to me that was not running off of the, the, the, fire plant. So I went out there. I gave it two days. Mr. Ketch said, oh, well, you know, we had a keep long. I said, a couple of days, got to do something about that. So Stone and I got a long extension card, plugged it into my house where there is power from the generator, ran the wire over there to the house adjacent to me where I had the other freezer, plugged it in, too, it come on. Well, then I
Starting point is 00:20:34 open it up, but it was still intact. I saw ducks, I saw peas, as in, you know, peaking. I saw peas, I saw pecans, and I saw corn. We freeze it in the shuck because it's already got its coating on it. So all that was in that freezer, but I got it back online, and it was still cold. It was still frozen. Well, let's take a short break. So I lost nothing. It was still frozen or was it just cold? I lost a little bit of, you know, when the crowd kind of gathered up there and it kept getting more of them. But Stone, his little girls, and Nan and them, they stayed with us for a while,
Starting point is 00:21:18 just as you get away from the heat. Well, in an ironic twist, Willie. We ate good. We've had great meals. So we're getting, you know, real, you know, our cooking skills have come forth. So we didn't miss a beat. But, I mean, it's way. worse on the coast down there for those people because they're how
Starting point is 00:21:40 yeah once it unthals you got to throw it out there well what's ironic is willie didn't lose power he's literally you know 300 yards from me how do he do that does he have a generator no he just he's on a different line that i am and he never lost power so that place became the hub and so whenever i just because i was working cleaning up all the trees chains on it all day i mean that's what i've been doing Well, you know, need a shower and a little air conditioner. So I'll go over there. Well, there's 45 people over.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Because everybody has gravitated toward the electricity. Ken folks and their friends. And the grub. When I came over there, Willie had cooked, I don't know where he got. He said, what was that called? Sea bass, Chilean Seabass. Oh, that's the best. He said he had ordered some, and they mistakenly, like the next month,
Starting point is 00:22:34 send him the whole order again, doubled. And he said, I didn't even ask for it. But it was perfect. But he didn't send it back. No. I mean, we'll even cook. He had that and he had fried squash. That was it for 45 people.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Now, he had enough squash. This table. Sea bass and squash. Yep. And I had to admit. It's pretty dang good. Chile and sea bass. Chelean sea bass.
Starting point is 00:23:00 So the point of your, of Phil sermon, is the perception is not always reality. That is correct. It may look nice on the top, but you open the door. I think Jesus mentioned that about the Pharisees. He said you're like, what was that? He said, white-washed tombs. You know, you look on the outside when he gave his withering.
Starting point is 00:23:24 There were a lot of things Jesus said, don't worry about. And these were included in all that. Yeah. Pandemics, floods, you know, drought, fires, you know, planet Earth is pretty violent place. So you got to take it in stride and just say, you know, life is short and full of trouble here. Well, the middle day I just had enough. And so I decided just to, you know, forget my problems and go metal detecting with Murray.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Plus, I just, I couldn't, you couldn't get gas around here. I mean, you're way out there. you know, you got your own gas, but gas and ice. Because I thought, well, I don't have any grub. I'll go to, you know, one of these fast foot jobs. I had fuel tanks, but no power. So the pumps on the field, when you get your hose, there was no way to run them. So I called Red, the local Redneck, as he read, meet me over there at the field tanks.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Was he the siphoner? Huh? No. We went over there and I said, Red, see that welding machine? there we hadn't cranked it up in about seven or eight months. I said, I want that welding machine right beside these two tanks. And I said, we're going to turn the welding machine on, get it running. I said, it is a generator. We'll plug the cords from the fuel tanks into this welding machine. And I said, until you get your fuel, then you turn the welding machine off, you come back.
Starting point is 00:24:54 So there was a way to crank up the pumps on the fuel tanks. So now we go fire the, welder up it fires up i've got power to the tanks we get the diesel or gas he both yeah you can put you every one you want so you just got to be prepared boys you're you're the guy you want to be around if the apocalypse happens if the apocalypse happened you yeah i'd be a good man to run with yeah we'll survive it i'm gonna make my way to your house when it hey well that's it's it so we're we in john we in john 12 john 12 oh i didn't finish my story uh when i went metal detection I ran up on two boys that I just saw it because you know you're seeing all these strange sights
Starting point is 00:25:35 on the way we were headed towards Mississippi River and I'm like I look in this boat they're parked at a gas station I just wheeled over there you know rolled down my window and I said I gotta go check this out these two guys had captured and killed the biggest alligator I had ever seen in my life it literally looked like a dinosaur I have pictures
Starting point is 00:25:58 and I was like I got to hear this tail, which they told me the tail all night. You know, because it's legal. They had a permit. You can go the lake where they were at. They give you two permits. It's like a slot. This thing was almost 12 foot long, what you're thinking.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Well, I know they get long in that, but the girth, he literally just took up the whole boat. And I said, well, how did it? That ain't weighed a ton, probably. Look, they snagged that thing with the riding reel, then got a treble hook on him. Of course, then they, you know, it's kind of like the, what's the show that was, uh, swamp people. Yeah, swamp people. You know, they rasseled this thing all night. They shoot him with a 4-10.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Then I'm like, well, how did you get him in the boat? Because it didn't look. There was four of them, but one of them was like a kid. And he said, oh, that's what we've been doing all night. He said, we started this at 9 o'clock. Of course, it's 6.30 in the morning. Nine hours. He's like, yeah, none of my muscles are actually functioning at this point.
Starting point is 00:26:58 How many guys were there? It was four of them, but one of them was a young kid. And I just, it was a mantra. And I thought to myself, with all this going on with the hurricane, typical Louisiana, these guys over catching the world's biggest alligator, you know. It's like the guy who came to me, and it was 11 o'clock at night. And I preach the gospel to him. I asked him, he won't be to baptize him, showed him some verses, you know.
Starting point is 00:27:25 He said, yeah, he said, wait a minute. He said, are there any alligators down there? I said, there are alligators there. I said, but the Lord will be with you. He's like, let's wait until tomorrow until his daytime. He just had it in his mind, I figured the Lord would protect him when I baptized him, but you never know. But you never know. Why is it?
Starting point is 00:27:46 Not a 10 or 12 foot gator come up. That's all of it. That's all she wrote. This thing here. But that's a bull. I mean, I would say four to 500 pounds, 12. foot long. He was more than four or five hundred.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I don't know. I'm just guessing. Maybe he was a seven, eight hundred. Seven, eight hundred. It was so big. I just, the boat was like, and the tires were like, burp. Oh, yeah. I just couldn't believe.
Starting point is 00:28:12 I said, I can't believe y'all got the boat to the bank. He said, me either. I mean, it was just an incredible sight. But, you know, I think when you get too close to the, to the trees, literally, you know, when they were falling, you shot it. It just, the job looks so big. I mean, because my neighbor, who used to, you know, work at Duck Commander, they're from California.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Well, they had never experienced a hurricane. And I could tell when I went over there, I mean, they were shook up. Yeah. And because the first thing he said to me, he's like, you know, we're thinking about moving. I said, we made it. It's over. You know, I was like, that's the first time a category two hurricanes ever hit nor lose. I was like, you survive.
Starting point is 00:28:57 I'm looking at just, there's trees, just everywhere. And he's like, I mean, but the only thing I can figure is there had to be angels guiding these trees down. I said, it does seem pretty almost supernatural that none of these hit your house. They were literally laying in every place except his house. There's a lot of trees down here. I mean, when I rolled in it, I didn't see it last night because it was dark, but this morning when I got up, I mean, it is.
Starting point is 00:29:25 is. Oh, it was, well, right there in our neighborhood. There's tens of thousands in the state, but there were hundreds where I'm from down there. But, you know, what's comforting to me, I mean, I think I kind of walked them, you know, off the ledge. I was like, look, it's over. We'll be fine. But that's why I left, too, because the job looks so big. Yeah. That you just get, you get depressed if you just. We don't have earthquakes here either. Since you brought up comfort, uh, the most comforting thing I could have. ever read a human being is this. Jesus said to Mary, Martha, I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies. And whoever lives and believes in me
Starting point is 00:30:12 will never die. Do you believe this? She said, I believe you're the Christ, the son of God, who was to come into the world. So you take statements like, that coming out of an individual, that's quite the statement. That is. He talks about supernatural things like it was nothing, supernatural things. Thomas Jefferson and a lot more like him great minds when they read about Jesus, they had no argument with what he said and how he said you're to live your life. They embraced that 100%.
Starting point is 00:30:49 But the first time he went beyond natural and supernatural, Once he crossed that line, they couldn't go there. The great minds say no. They just couldn't bring themselves to believe in the spirit world, the supernatural world. They just couldn't do it. You know, I'll say this about our community. As much as people are being just in panic and hysteria over the coronavirus, I'm not making light of it, but we were talking about earlier before we started filming,
Starting point is 00:31:22 And, you know, the CDC came out with these new numbers. And it's like 94% of the deaths were people who were either well over 70 with a secondary and third condition. So only 6% which we're getting way down there with just the coronavirus itself. And which is why so much panic. Let's take a quick break and finish that time. Which is why so much panic is going on. But then here we have hurricane come, which, I mean, there were a few deaths and, you know, we hate it. But you look around and people just rolled up their sleeves.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And I just didn't sense the panic and fear. And I'm telling you, you know, it's one thing to see about a hurricane on TV. And we're talking about we're in North Louisiana. You were right in South Louisiana. It was just sheer devastation. I saw some report where they said there was 150. you know, they didn't call them Cajuns,
Starting point is 00:32:25 but Cajuns down there that wasn't leaving, you know. And then, so I thought, well, those 150 are not going to make it. And none of them, they were,
Starting point is 00:32:33 they all made it. Yeah. I thought, boy, you're talking about, you're talking about some backbone. Oh, they're tough.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Yeah. So, and even now, I mean, we're, what, two or three days past this. I've never heard so many
Starting point is 00:32:45 chainsaws and generators and people just trailers of, of debris. I mean, these people have worked. There's a lot of clean. up that's going down. I mean, every yard, every piece of property has a
Starting point is 00:32:57 big pile of brush in it, just massive limbs and stumps. I mean, I'm like, good night. But, look, I sent Missy a video. I was driving down the road and all these power companies from all over the south are here now, you know, but people
Starting point is 00:33:13 like rolling down the windows, hollering at them, you know, I was doing the same thing, you know, there we go, let's good. Because you don't have any power and you see this army of It's hot here, though. Oh, is it hot? It's been miserable, but I keep thinking, I put it in perspective.
Starting point is 00:33:30 The further you go south, the more miserable it is. I mean, I am in a house, even though it was 90 degrees for a couple days. You wake up in a sweat. Maybe we just didn't have the news media, the instantaneous news media type. When I was a boy growing up, but I racked my brain, I just don't remember. things like pandemics, wildfires, hurricanes, floods. Well, I think you just have more media. The 140 mile an hour wind or something, 120 to 140,
Starting point is 00:34:11 went across the Midwest three or four weeks ago, a month ago. We're through Iowa, blew all the corn down. I'm like, 140 mile hour wind. And the Midwest, just a little storm blew up in there. you got 100 enough to blow the corn down. So I hope I'm wrong, but it almost seems like we're being punished. No, I think it's more just you got 24-hour news cycles. I mean, there was a day.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Can you imagine when a hurricane would come and you wouldn't know it was coming? Yeah. Especially one like this because it was quick moving. I'm telling you, man. I mean, you're just, you know, sitting on the beach and the next thing you know, gone. Yeah. Because, I mean, they just, you know, there's a little light. Think about the guys in ships and stuff and boats back in the day, the 1800s.
Starting point is 00:34:58 They're just going across there. They don't know that there's a cat or two-go-y-five hurricane coming. It just took them and just... Well, by the time they saw it, it's too late. Oh, tore them to pieces. I mean, there's many a ship wrecked out there from storms. Well, the information age, we're in now the digital revolution. I mean, yeah, we have access to so much information.
Starting point is 00:35:19 It's a little bit of... It's an overkill. Yeah. So that's why you see it. now where you may not have seen it, you know. But John, chapter 11 and 12, Jace, we're in chapter 12. This is the text. Matthew, Mark, and Luke record Jesus saying,
Starting point is 00:35:38 I'm going to die, be bearing rays from the dead. Here he words it, now's the time for the judgment of this world. Now the prince of this world, the devil, will be driven out. Oh, I like that. when I am lifted up from the earth, when they string me up like an animal, will draw all men to myself. He said this to show the kind of death he was going to die. He was consistent with the prophets, what they said. He said, I'm going to die, be buried and raised from the dead.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Repeatedly over and over, it's recorded four times Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, so no one could miss it. So how in the world people would go past that event? Dash, I just can't quite figure it out. That's the centerpiece of the entire story. Jesus died, was buried and raised from the dead. Well, it's interesting, John 12. You've got two events preceding kind of this prophecy of Jesus talking to my eyes going to die. The first one is the perfume.
Starting point is 00:36:47 She pours the perfume. Which is a strange story that Jesus really highlighted as an important, awesome event. Yeah. I mean, in John, 12, it doesn't go into detail, but in Matthew, what's the Matthew account of it? Probably I already said. Yeah, in 26, in that account, it says, wherever the gospel will be preached, we will also tell this story in her memory. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Well, the, the, the, Denary says that, you know, Judas got upset about her so-called wasting the perfume in verse 5, John 12. Why was this perfume not sold for 300 denary and given to poor people? But that was Judas, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was like, a denary is like a day's wage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:42 So you're talking about, she just dumped a year's worth of earnings onto the feet of Jesus, and she's worshipping him as the king that he is. I think it's interesting. I say this constant dichotomy through the book of John of, there's like one way that people are viewing it, and then there's like the reality of the situation. Like, people are worshipping the things of God. I mentioned this, I think, when we were in John 3 or 4, over the God of the Things. And you see here, Judas is kind of doing that same thing.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Like, she's putting this perfume on him, and he's like, no, no, we need to help the poor, which is, I'd say that's another form of virtue signaling on his part, you know, but it's like, it's bigger than that. Well, well, the one that was going to betray, he said, why wasn't this sold the money given of the poor? It was worth of years wages. He did not say this because he cared about the poor, but because he was a thief. As keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah. So he was siphoning away. The money pay. Does that sound familiar? I was just saying, I think that caught on way back and is still going on. Well, and you said he was going to betray him. He was already betraying him. I mean, with that in his heart. But I think he does represent the religious who are hypocritical in our culture today. Because you just think about that one thought. You know, he was right. This does seem like a waste. You know, technically his argument had a lot of ways.
Starting point is 00:39:16 had a lot of weight, and that's why I said he represents the religious. And you, you know, I've seen the same things in religious groups, you know, when they, some of their sermons on giving and, you know, they're like working. Let's take a quick break. Because they're like, here they're giving these powerful sermons on you need to work and you need to give. Well, why? Well, because he wants to get paid, which the point is, if you just took one point in Ephesians, which I, you know, the point is not work.
Starting point is 00:39:49 As much as I've gotten on my soapbox and heard people about, hey, you need to work. And the first Timothy 5, 7, you know, if you don't work and provide for your family, you're worse than an unbeliever. When you read Ephesians 4, I mean, listen to this in verse 28, I think this makes a key point. It says, he who has been stealing, which we just mentioned by Judas, he would help himself to the purse, must steal no longer and must work.
Starting point is 00:40:17 That was part of his argument. Well, we need to help the poor. You know, we need to get out here and work so we can help the poor. But work wasn't the point either, doing something useful with his own hands, that he may have something to share with those in need. So my point is, Judas was so far from sharing because he was stealing. And it's not really, it's not about. working and it's not about this argument about giving to the poor. That was just a vehicle to try
Starting point is 00:40:52 to, you know, keep his pockets lined. But the true disciples of Jesus realized that, you know, we don't steal. That's just a byproduct of wanting to share with others, which would be the exact opposite. So when we work and God blesses us, you know, we share. I just think, I just think it when you when your heart's not focused on Jesus you come up with these lame justifiable arguments yeah we quit passing the hat the little group I meet with we don't pass the plate or the hat drop your money in here no yeah there's a thing at the back and I said if you want to drop some in there go ahead I said but trust me when I tell you not one cent of it is going to me I said it's not going to me I said we need lights
Starting point is 00:41:40 you got to pay for them well we understand we use I think I think you're right that the religious world uses a lot of language and rhetoric about helping the poor to raise money for the organizations that supposedly help the poor. Some of them do a great work. Yeah, some of them do. Some of them do. Frank and Graham, Nymn, they do a great work with that Samaritan person. Absolutely, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:01 So I'm not going to put them all in one lump. No, but I'm just in this context, that's what Judas did. And I do think you have to be on your guard for that. You do. You know? Because we know the end of the story. well, yeah, we knew Judas was eventually going to betray Jesus. But in that moment, I mean, he wasn't like he was not with him.
Starting point is 00:42:24 I mean, Jesus washed his feet despite knowing his heart. But everybody else. Jesus knew he was up to no good, too. Yeah, but I mean, think about this, though, how many times that we use the term that I think is popular now, social justice as opposed to just biblical justice, but we create these campaigns to alleviate poverty. or to help people for the sake of helping people. And I think what's interesting about this verse is, or this passage is that you can help people all you want, even if Judas would have done that.
Starting point is 00:42:56 And if you miss, if you miss the one who can save you from eternal destruction, then it doesn't, it's all for no all anyways. Like you have, like, I think this whole book of John is pointing back to the person of Jesus. And I think that here is just another example of, of, of how what we do as individuals, Judas did it a little more deceptively. But, I mean, he's taking something of God that should be good, helping the poor. Yeah, one of the thing. And he's elevating it above the king.
Starting point is 00:43:25 And to me, all these things they accuse the religious world of doing, to me, Jesus does the exact opposite. I mean, here was this woman who did something you would think is, I mean, ridiculous. Because, I mean, Judas is taking her own, but Jesus took up for it. And, you know, I've heard people say, you know, non-believers or whatever. It's like, oh, Jesus, you know, in the Christianity, they're anti-women or, you know, we've already read three or four stories where Jesus took a woman with, in some cases, a lot of baggage. And I mean, went to the wall for.
Starting point is 00:44:03 And here to equate with what she did with his death, barrel, and resurrection that was coming up, saying, we're going to, not only are we going to share what's going to happen. at my barrel, and she gets it. We're going to tell this act of worship, this awesome experience. I mean, to me, I'm like, how could you be more pro-woman than that? Especially in a culture, what Josephus said, that you couldn't even take the testimony of a woman. A dog was higher than a woman. And this culture was very degrading to women, and yet Jesus, that's not how he rolled.
Starting point is 00:44:43 That's why I love this. America started out and they had women under their boot too because just think about it, they couldn't even vote. Yeah. I mean, just think about that. But the point being, she got the message of, yeah, we're going to have poor. And in Matthew 26's account, Jesus says that, says you're always going to have the poor. But when she poured this perfume on my body, she did it to prepare me for burial.
Starting point is 00:45:12 and because he's making a point that what's going to happen is bigger than any injustice, any poor, you know, helping the poor, any travesty, because now you're going to have a way to get forgiveness of sins and you're going to have a way to get resurrecting. It's a final solution that had all these other, all these other things were just temporary solutions. Yeah. That's why the wind was blowing and all that. other day. But I said, man, I'm glad I'm a child of the resurrection because we could bite it on this one. Well, I think that's a great point that Jace makes, though, out of the scriptures here,
Starting point is 00:45:53 that they, what Jesus is saying, they're worshiping Jesus as king. And then in the very next passage, it's the triumphal entry where, you know, where they're, they're worshiping. He's king now, but they're not seeing that, just a less than a week, he's about to be killed. Well, think about it. Most kings, most kings, that they had, seen, they didn't come riding up on a donkey. No. Which I mean, we can talk about that next time, but I think he did that on purpose just because it's nothing what you think.
Starting point is 00:46:22 That's right. Everything is kind of the opposite of what you think. But, you know, when you look at a donkey, he's got some pretty good qualities. He's just, I mean, he has become, I think, just because Jesus wrote one. I think the people who are anti-Jesus, they just made that kind of a slur because it's another way, you know, poke fun of him. But those who know the animal world, you know, he's, he's smart, he's intelligent, as strong as an ox. He's not easily manipulated. I mean, there's a lot of qualities about a donkey that's actually a thumbs up. Plus, it's better than
Starting point is 00:46:59 walking. Yep. And they're odorless. Do you know that? I didn't know that. And they kill snakes. And coyotes. They protect the, they protect other, other, The cows. Yeah, they're good animals. Yeah. I think we're out of time. So, hey, make sure you guys subscribe to our podcast on iTunes or whatever feed that you listen to it on.
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