Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 1406 | Dasher the Band Opens Up About Avoiding the Dark Side of Tour Life

Episode Date: August 25, 2026

Max and Laela, Zach’s eldest children and the duo behind Dasher the Band, open up about the whirlwind of life on the road, from the unexpected phone call that landed them a tour with Larry Fleet to figuring out how to protect their marriages, stay accountable, and keep their faith at the center as new opportunities come their way. Zach, Jase, and Al reflect on building something bigger than yourself and why keeping family close may be one of the best defenses against losing yourself as success grows. Max and Laela bring the conversation full circle with a special in-studio performance. Pre-save Dasher the Band’s new single “You’re an Oak,” out August 28, here: http://vere.lnk.to/YoureAnOak and find Dasher the Band on Spotify, Apple Music, or wherever you listen to music. In this episode:  “Unashamed” Episode 1406 is sponsored by: https://duckstamp.com/unashamed - Get your digital duck stamp online and keep it right on your phone! https://bravebooks.com/unashamed - Get both of the Robertson books completely free, plus a free starter kit, all for 70% off! http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ - Sign up now for free, and join the Unashamed hosts every Friday for Unashamed Academy Powered by Hillsdale College Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://open.spotify.com/show/3LY8eJ4ZBZHmsImGoDNK2l Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Chapters 00:00 Zach’s Kids Dish on Growing Up Dasher 06:28 Layla Goes Viral & Mia’s Cleaning Obsession 11:02 Dasher the Band Hits the Road 15:36 The Nerves Before Their First Real Show 20:08 The Song That Brought the Crowd to Tears 25:03 ‘Unashamed’ Fans Take Over the Tour 28:14 Jase’s Buc-ee’s Business Plan 34:18 Family, Legacy & Building Something That Lasts 40:44 Jase Remembers Doubting ‘Duck Dynasty’ 44:15 Dasher the Band Performs - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. Zach, you brought some guests with you for our Nashville edition. And if Jay, if Jay says he doesn't know who these guests are, and I'm going to be, I will be offended. I do know who these people. These are special people saying.

Two of our favorites, Max and Layla, welcome. What's up? My two oldest children that live here in Nashville. Y'all have never been on the podcast? No. No. That's so sad. That is so sad that you had a dad that I thought he loved you.

Yeah. I'll tell you a secret about your dad. Every time I think negatively about your dad, which happens a lot. Then I think of you two guys. That's the thing. And you saved the day. He had to have a good heart. He did something right.

I love you too, Jake. I love you too, brother. That's the closest thing to love you. I did. No, I'm telling you. I received that exactly for what it was. was a Robertson compliment. That was as good as a kiss.

And, yeah, and Bear actually beat you on the podcast. He did. He actually made it on a purse. I saw it on all the posts. I mean, we know he's going to be the one to take the torch. I heard, Bear and Jay are two peas in the pod. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I heard, you are our best buds now.

We had to come to Jesus, man. And a duck blind. I'm always found that when you're teenagers or y'all's age, the best environment is a dangerous situation to talk about really important things. Yeah, that's good. It worked out great, too, because the first duck that came in, I think Jay said, and I forgot what he said. No, I said somebody, I raised up and realized the duck came in so close.

I thought anybody should be able to pull this shot off. This is an impossible shot. So let me test this out. Somebody get him. Finish the story? Well, you already made it sound like it wasn't a challenge now, but the duck comes in. I pulled up and shot and the duck folded. It is.

Which stunned me, even though it was the easiest shout in the world. I did not. I thought you were setting it up totally down. No, I hit that shot. That was a great shot. He just totally undermined everything I did by saying it was an easy shot. And then when I did it, this was the line. Bobby, Zach Dasher shot a duck.

Like, I'm surprised. Like, it was like kind of a compliment, like at the same time. The Robertson compliment. Oh, it's good. Is this how I talk? Is that real? I do a pretty good Jason fashion.

Oh, I need to work on that. You should do a Zach impersonation. Yeah, I want to hear that. No, he wouldn't know how to do it because he's never listened to Zah. You have to actually listen to that. To impersonate somebody, you have to hear them.

That's right. Because when you asked me to do that, I thought, I got nothing. Your dad will be waxing, I mean, eloquently. He's laying the whole, the whole thing out there and they say, yeah,

the point I was trying to make is, and then he goes right back in the... But that's the film move too. Yeah, it is. It's because you're using words that 90% of real people don't use. So I guess my impersonation

would be the ambivalent ways of procrastinating to a degree. It's that kind of lingo. And I'm like, too many syllables, too many syllables. So we need to, we need to,

Since Bear has already been on, and he was asked this question. We need to ask both of you this question. Who were you growing up? Who were you more afraid of? Your mom or your dad? If you did something wrong. If you did something wrong. Oh, that's easy for me.

Mom. Yeah, mom. That's what Bear said. And I was like, I was so shocked because she seemed such a dainty woman. Yeah. She is. She's a little bit. She's a lot.

Bear was looking, and he was like, think grenade. I was going to say, yeah, I was going to say a firecracker. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. But she looks really pretty, you know, like a firecracker. That's why it's so deceiving. Yeah, you don't know. It's like you're being lured in and then all of a sudden.

I actually, I don't, you don't, like growing up, you didn't really ever, I mean, a few times you would get upset, but you were kind of even, even tempered for the most part. But a lot of that, that, a lot of time was what caused mom's anger to come out. Yeah. Was the lack of, of, of, of passion. She wanted to see more. This isn't about me and Jill, though. Yeah, we're not here with an It could be because nobody knows you more than your older children.

They've seen it all. They have seen it all. Man. When we were homeschooled, she'd take all four of us, because it was before Ruth, to the grocery store, and I'll never forget those days. I was in Walmart yesterday, and I just, I could hear her yelling at me to stop missing with something.

We would, like, throw things over the aisle. There was the worst, though. Y'all already had the worst on. Yeah. The word, in what way? Oh, he was just, he took chances. When we were out places. Yeah, but you were the worst in terms of just like belligerent, argumentative.

I was the worst in the mind, but his actual physical actions, the things that he did with his body. I asked him what he wanted to do for a living, and he gave me a couple of things. And I said, have you ever considered something in demolition? Yeah. Because you're a destroyer. He's a destroyer. He's a destroyer, not a creator. He's why I said, no, you're in the wrong end.

Demo business. You don't want to build it. You want to tear it. That's why we hit it all. Anvil with a rubber mallet. That's what they say. I specialize in that. And demolition?

Yeah. That's why in our marriage, once I knew my role, if you need something destroyed, I'm your guy. We need a new roof. I can tear it off for you. Go ahead and call somebody. They put it back on. Oh, yeah.

I can't. I can tear stuff up. It's valuable. Well, Layla, you went viral this week. I saw you for Harry Potter, your daughter put on that. Oh. Her Instagram. My wife showed me that.

And I was like, they put that on on purpose? Yeah, so Mia made an entire PowerPoint. Our friend group was going to have a Harry Potter night. And she made a whole PowerPoint of all of her friends as Harry Potter characters. And mine were pretty embarrassing. But she was like, you should just post it to be funny. But it was like annoys people 24-7, nosy, like really nosy. This is yours?

Always in people's business. No, she said messes with people while they poop. I don't know what that was. I guess because we were roommates out, you know. That was the backstory. It's like, if you did, I thought that context should have been in there. She said thrives and filth context. We used to live together, freshman year of college.

And she accused you of being. And she accused me of being dirty. It was only clothes. Okay. So, yeah, type B personality, you know. Yeah. Because if you ever seen her clean up. Oh, well, that was the magic of our relationship is I would just trash the place.

And she, it was actually, it made her feel better. It was magic for you. No, no, no, no. And Mia loves to clean. She does. It's her therapy. She comes in like a world way. Like it says, it makes her feel better.

So we would have like, so yeah, the other day, my house was just like it was in disarray. And I call her on the phone. She happened to be in town for a couple days. And I was like, you got to come out because I only know there's one person that's going to do that. And she's like, we need this, this, this and this. So we go to the store. She has a whole list of all these cleaning supplies that we need. We get all of them.

She comes home. She's like a little fairy. And it was the cleanest that place has ever looked. Yeah. And then Dawson came home and had no idea where he was. He was like, you did so great, babe. I'm like, thank you. The backstory of that?

Like when she was in college for extra money, she would like babysit kids. But she can't go just babysit the kids. She would organize their rings. She would clean their house. So then what happened was she did a couple of these, and these women, mom, started fighting over her services. She was like, no, I'm already booked. Like, well, how much would it take to get you?

The cleaning was what they were after. They were after that. They were like. A Brent Boy, bidding more. No, she's good at it. Yeah, she's great at it. She is, I agree. And I just pay her, you know, with my presence, obviously.

I wouldn't have anything going on money-wise yet. But your mom was like that. Wouldn't she like a whirling garbage cleaning? World win. Yeah. Mia reminds me of your mom. Yeah. She just comes in there and organizes and just,

She's dictating policy to everybody. So between her and my wife, who also loves to clean, I'm just like tiptoeing around the house, just like, let me leave here in peace. Do they ever try to get you to clean? No, but they imply. Yeah. It's usually just a look. You feel guilty because you're not.

I'm over here, the one that caused half of this, you know. But look at the way we were raised. Yeah. Disarray. Disarray. Well, it was good, but good for you that I thought, I can't believe they did that on purpose. Because to me, most young people, they can't laugh at themselves or whatever, you know. But for y'all to do that.

I mean, she made one for herself, too. I can't remember what was on it. But I think she, I think she was like Harry Potter, you know, like the main character. Yeah. Which, that's okay. I do want to remind everybody that if you don't like the ads in this podcast, you can get it ad-free. All you got to do is go to ECHL.com, use our code, Unashamed. It's EKK.com.

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Got your merch on, dash of the band. Tell everybody what you guys are doing right now. Yeah, we're both here in Nashville. I'm in the Brentwood. She's up in Franklin. And we're touring, playing all over the country and doing some cool stuff. We've had the privilege of being out with a guy named Larry Fleet,

who y'all know, y'all have had him on the podcast. That's actually where I met him. Yeah, you were just hanging out. We were just hanging out. You met? Oh, when he was on the bunch, last time we were in? Yeah, so I was always, I was always, I'd always been a big fan of them. and, you know, seen him play a couple times

and heard he was coming in. I was like, man, I don't want to hang around. Just kind of feel the vibe. And then afterwards, me, him, and Reed ended up talking for like two hours or something crazy. And he was just giving me all the advice. You know, I've met several people and a lot of industry people.

And, you know, a lot of times people like kind of hold their advice close to themselves. But Larry was just like he was just no holding back. He sat there with me and talked to us for forever. And I didn't think anything of it, except, I mean, he gave me his numbers. I hit me up if you ever need anything.

I was like, dang, heck yes, I will. I'm just super encouraged. And then about two, three months later, I get a call. And it's like Larry Fleet. And I was like, what in the world? I mean, I'm going to answer. And I answered. And I said, hey, this is Max, right?

And I was like, yeah, what's up, man? He was like, well, I'm not here in Kansas in the middle of nowhere. And I'm just sitting here with my buddy Mike, who is his tour manager. And he was like, and, man, we've been getting all these submissions for who we to bring out on tour next and I don't have anything against them or anything I just I just don't like them and so put we put your record on and I just think you'd be perfect if you want to come out and open for us and I was like yeah dude he's like you're going to check his schedule I was like yeah no we can do it and I was like how many dates and he was like all of them and I was like yeah dude I think

we're available and so from that moment forward man it's just been the last I guess how many months have we've been doing it, six months? Since February. Have just felt like a whirlwind, but it's been like such a gift. So we've gotten to see all over the country and play for tons of different people. Yeah, you want to release some music. Yeah, yeah. We just finished, wrapped up recording an album a couple months ago. So that comes out soon, hopefully. But yeah, just releasing songs and writing a ton of songs. Writing on the road. Yeah, it's been, it's been really fun to get to do that together. and with Larry, he's a well of wisdom

and his whole team is awesome. Treat us like their kids. He loves Jesus. Just seeing the way he does it and the way that he has done touring, you know, obviously you hear the stories all the time about how people ruin their life pretty quick doing that. But the way that he does it

and the culture he's had and his team, we just got super lucky. And they baby us. They always have given us hotel rooms and stuff and like, it's just food. That's what I learned. It's not a sexy life. Like I'm thinking you're going to go on tour.

You don't make no money. They're like, they're literally driving around in a, in Layla's, what kind of car? My Volkswagen. Her Volkswagen. They're cramming the stuff in there. They got their P-N. And not the Volkswagen van. We might be buying a church van soon, though.

Yeah. Going to build it out. Upgrade. Yeah, we might be upgrading. Max says that, Max says. They want to buy a church man from our church, which we don't use, but I'm an elder. I feel like there's a conflict of interest. I'm like, I can't, like, I don't need, I need to, like, recuse myself from the decision.

No, that. Remember what? dad always said, in our family, nepotism rules. We don't worry about it. That's the nepotism rules. He wants to buy the church man, so he can go around with Swarlander. Another famous man said you don't want to be one day in your life living in a van down by the river. No.

No, no, Chris. He was a wise man, Chris Farley. Well, I would like to know your first time. So you get this break. This is your big break, I guess. what was it like the first time you got up in front of a crowd? Now you're opening for Larry. Yeah, well, I'd like to know.

I don't know this story. Do you remember where we were? Well, with Larry, yeah, we were in Huntington, Tennessee. And this is crazy because this is probably the smallest show out of all the shows we've done was his first one. Perfect. And we were in this little bitty back room with, it was me, Layla, and our fiddle player, Tessa.

There's still way more people we've ever. Oh, yeah. It was like. Are you nervous at this time, set the stage? Oh, my goodness. So we're. I've been thinking about this in our heads, like, for just months. We had spent so much time, like, getting it down, practicing.

Because we knew that Larry was taking a chance on us. He had never even heard his play live. And I knew that, I knew that, like, his manager and other people were probably, like, a little nervous about it. Hardbooking agent was nervous about, like, everybody was like, what? Are you all ready for that time? And they deliver. Yeah, because nobody. But you got to remember, in their minds, the worst thing is ever going to happen is y'all go out there and just drop up, you know, lay an egg.

And then only the people in Huntington, Tennessee will ever. know about it's yeah it's yeah so in my mind though it's like everything's riding on this one moment right and uh and so we we spent so much time practicing and i'd kind of talked this up to some people that were asking about like you feel prepared i'm like oh yeah we're ready we're ready in the back of my mind i'm like i have no idea i was not a guitar player before this and part of this tour was i was going to learn guitar so it was also my first time playing acoustic guitar in front of a crowd so that's like what i'm nervous about it's having to memorize the chords and yeah So it's this little theater, not little, but it's probably 450, 500 people there,

which to me at the time, and it's still a great number of people, but at the time I was like, I went out there during the sound check and you just see all these empty seats and you're just like, oh my gosh. So we were praying and just, I was like, Lord, just give me like the strength. I don't know what, like, I hope I remember the words. I like jot it down all of our songs. Like we also were very underprepared. Like we left some cables and stuff. Like, we did not know what we were doing.

And so I was just sitting back there, and you hear all the people start coming in for the first time, and you're just thinking like, this is it. Like, this is the moment. And half of you is like, this is what I prayed for. Like, we're ready. Like, this is it. But then the other half is like, well, this is it.

You got to show up and, like, do something that matters. Because we didn't want to just be like, I don't know. We've all been to shows where the opener comes out. And it's like, uh. And he's just like, You know, there's... No one's paying attention. People are talking.

My biggest share was people were going to be like, because all these people had said this, like, I've heard the horror stories. It's like, bring it, bring out Larry. I kept thinking they're like, why you're singing. Yeah. We want Larry.

They do that. I've heard the stories. And so in my mind, it's like, I'm going to be out there and they're going to give us Larry. We had like a 45 minutes set. He gave us a 45 minutes. That's a pretty long. 45 minutes.

Whoa. And it's like a bucket. Yeah. myself. I'm like for 45 minutes. And so that was our biggest, like that was the thing in our mind. Well, Max walks out there. The first song we play is a song about Louisiana. It's called Tibido. It's about the city in South Louisiana. Max wrote about, we both wrote it kind of about the history there. Anyways. And it's like one of those songs that kind of just starts, like very like quiet. And then you go into it. And as soon as we started, everyone's like, wow. And I remember feeling like I could,

from that moment, I was like, okay, I can breathe. It took me a little bit longer to get into it. Because I got out there and some of the song stuff, like I really had been dead set on learning to really like play guitar well. I didn't realize that you actually have to play well consistently. And so like I was like concentrating so hard. So we get out there and, you know, they're real clods, rock, or we start. And they start like kind of getting into it.

You can kind of see. And then it was about three songs in. And Layla actually has a part where she plays on the keys. And it sounds like an organ. And I was like, this is. is when I, this is the moment, it came down to this right here when I knew that country music was what I wanted to do with my life. And Layla, too, I think felt the same way. This is like, I'll never forget this moment, but she plays the chords and it's this old, like, kind of 80s

sounding like Oregon, kind of 90s country kind of sounding thing. And I looked up and I was like, do we have any Keith Lutley fans out there? And when I tell you, that place went nuts. They, like, started like, screaming. And I was like, I was like, oh, okay, we do. Because I had thought, some people I thought that Keith Philly was too niche. I don't know. There was like some ideas there. So I didn't know if it would really be hit. Because you did a few covers.

Yeah, we did a few covers. And I wanted to be very, we wanted to be intentional with our covers. You know, you don't want to go up there and sing the same old, same old, you know. So we sang the song Miami, Miami. And it just was like this moment where I was like so into it. And as the show progressed, we got to this song called Grandpa Clocks and Gravestones. And that's a song that we had written, and it'll be out soon. It's kind of no special song we've ever written.

And it's just about before we play it, I say, this is a song about a life well lived, and then I'll strum, and then we'll start singing it. And it's just a song about growing old and what that would look like for me, like what a life well lived would look like for us. And you just see, like, everybody in the room just stop. And for the first time ever, I'd seen people crying to, like, a song that we were singing. And it wasn't just one person. It was like so many people in the room.

Yeah. Like there becomes like a glitter in the crowd when a lot of people are crying and the lights like set just right. You can see it's so weird. It feels like kind of starry. Yeah. Sing a hymn. Yeah.

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Oh, everybody's hands go up and like they're worshiping. They loved that. And I was nervous about, we were both nervous about that too. because it's like how much can we, you know, because at that time, I think we were just doing what we could, but we also wanted to show them Jesus too. But man, like what an impact you see it in people. Like when you actually, people go to a show not expecting to hear about Jesus. And like, that's something like that I love about country music is they're coming to hear country music and hear good stories. And then when you like give people like a little bit of Jesus,

even the people in the room that you know. What do Larry say would know? Do he like that? Well, he loved the hymn so much that the next night he was like, all right, I'm going to throw a hymn in my set, and y'all are going to come out at the end of the show and sing that with me. So every night at the end of the show, we go up with Larry, and we all sing Swing Low Sweet Chariot together and three-part harmony. And it's like such a fun moment. The whole crowd is just kind of like into it.

But yeah, like Max said, they come to the show, and a lot of them even believers expecting, you know, we're just going to hear a good country show, but they hear Jesus too, and it's really impactful for people. Yeah, we had this conversation with Anne, Wilson was on and you know she was saying the same thing this is like now there's this whole widening space it's almost like god raised you guys up at the perfect time to be able to have that sort of merger together and it makes perfect sense when you think about it I mean you think about

a lot of country music we're here in Nashville and put my bear down hold this do that but but a lot of it is I mean these are the audiences are just people out there in the flower state same people that loved our show at the end of the day we're all here humans, and this is the best idea we got. You know, the Lord Jesus solves a lot of problems. Yeah, and it's, it's, it's, what, it's, he was the first storyteller. He was, he, he, I mean, I've been reading through First Samuel, oh my goodness, like, like, yeah, this is a good, it's not just a true story, it's a good story.

It's like, the best story. Yeah. And so for us, it's like, man, we want to be storytellers because that's what our king was and still is. He had a way with words. He had away with words. Like all over the New Testament, the parables, those are a lot like the songs we write. You know, it's like these.

You're just nudging them towards heaven one song at a time. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And, you know, we write songs about our family. We write songs about the mountains. We write songs about Louisiana. You know, all that stuff matters. Like God cares about that.

And he gave us love and he gave us life. And so we just, you know, try to nut, like Max said, nudge people towards Jesus a little bit more. The other song. into any unashamed fans on the road? Oh, my goodness, y'all. There's a lot. Like, every night. It's the best people ever, too.

It's always the best people. And I'm not just saying that because we're on the show. Like, when they come up and they're like, we're fans of Unashamed, it's always the people that you can see in the crowd the whole time. They're like, yeah, like they're so. They're a little more on the wild side. They're a rowdy. They're a rowdy.

They're a rowdy. The row of their shows are unashamed things. They come to the table. Yeah. It's always like the sweetest saying to get to meet them. It's like meeting people you already know. Yeah, it really is. It's like a family.

There's one lady that I was at a show. She showed up with a, I think she's coming a couple shows. She showed up with a parrot or a pink flamingo. Yes, and she has come to a couple of our shows. She thinks she was going to Jimmy Buffet shows? No, she loves a pink flamingo. She brings it everywhere with her. Yeah, I can't remember her name.

No, no, no, no, no, it's not real. Just an animal. It's a stuffed animal. She takes it with her. She's going around with a bird with a. No, she's a little. She's, I can't remember her name. She's got it by the leg.

She's sitting there. He's trying to fly well that old. There's crazy. This is Daisy. I literally thought that. No, she's, if I saw her, I would recognize her because she's come to a few of our shows now, and she's so sweet. Well, I was raised in a culture where I actually saw a guy pull up and he had a beaver. I thought it was stuffed.

It was a lot. He had a pet beaver. I was like, get her done. What are you saying? And he went on to start Buckees. He's talking some gas stations somewhere that apparently turned out to be a big deal. I think we've been to more Buckees in our... We've been living off of Buckees last.

On the road, talk about like the staple of, like... That's your place? It's just like the gas is cheap and you know what you're going to get every time. Yeah, the way I look, I have to stay out of Buckees. You stopped it one one time. Didn't you get it? One. It was a one hour meeting greet.

One hour. And Missy was so upset, but she wouldn't get out of the car because she didn't want to get involved in the meeting. She didn't want to save you or getting dragged in or something. Yeah, it just, and I was like, babe, what do you want me to do? You know, I wasn't going to be rude at that point. We stopped here, and it would just happen to be a really, really busy day. It's already a very large place. They're all busy days.

And I just thought, you know, I'm here. It's happened. Let's do it. But I haven't been back. It's stressful. It is. But the gas is cheap. You get the private bathrooms.

And that's what's nice. When you're on the road for hours on end. They're clean. You don't want something lying out the door while you're really. Also, we'll be in the car with each other for like six hours. So honestly, like, if I can get them. You go down to this end. I'll go down to this end.

It's big enough that we can take our break, you know, and see each other. Well, it's been my exit strategy. If I ever lose, you know, all the gigs and jobs I got, I think I could approach them and say, look, I'll just. Just be there. Yeah, just be there. Just at Bucking. You can be making the break.

briskin on the bar. Because they got private bathrooms, they got plenty of food to eat. You know, I'm like, I think this is it. I don't want to look at one day and you see Mountain Man's already got the gays. He's already there.

I'd be honest, if you know anybody, because I'm a business guy, you'll know that. So if you know someone who is in the upper echelon of Bucky's reach that, find a way to get to me.

I would love to partner to do a Bucky's Unashamed collab. Amen. That's not. That's hard for you. It's kind of like college game day. You could do the Unashamed episode in the middle of the budget.

Oh. Oh, that'd be good. Collab. Oh, it's close to collapse. No, no, no. I say, collab. It's short for collaboration. He's trying to do.

You were ranking me out of the Coles are using big words. I was going to say collaboration, but then I thought it's clear. I like this new year. It took me, but I like this. So if we, if y'all are already tour and if we do a Bucky's thing, we all come and sing. Yeah, we'll be the entertainment. We're taking any and all games.

We're doing. That's the point. They're poor right now. So they're like, they're off the payroll. You know what that's like. You got your daughter off the payroll. I guess all yours are off now.

They're off the payroll. They're on their own. So my question was, you're both Nugoo-Weds of your year and a half. Oh, yeah, two years. Yeah, two. And you're just a few months. Like two months.

Yeah. So how does it work with a new marriage and road and all that stuff? How does that all that work? Well, she's behind the camera, so I'm going to be. She's right over there. She's here. Hey, baby.

So, man, that's been something. Yeah, we're trying to navigate so much of that. But it's been a blessing more than anything that I, like, than I ever thought it could be. And I mean that. So I'm not just saying that because you're there. We're trying to figure out what it looks like to, like, we're hoping that there's, you know, we try to bring her with us as much as we can in Dawson. She does hair, so that's helpful.

She makes everybody look pretty. So when she is able to come with us, it just makes sense. Like you see the vision of what you want your future to be like and you do it with your family. And when Dawson, when all four of us are together, it's like the best. Yeah. But yeah, so she's been doing here in Nashville and so she can't always come with us in this season. So it's been hard to, you know, try to make time. I feel like I'm just like when I'm getting back and getting settled, I'm leaving again.

But it's been, it's also been a blessing because it's been able to give us an apartment and live and have time together. But I think it's like our first challenge that we're doing together, like completely together, like navigating it through being married. And it's not easy. And look, it wouldn't be easy whatever you had chosen to do. It's work. It's, you know, having to make your way. But, I mean, anytime you talk to performers and people that are doing what you guys do,

I mean, the road is hard. It's always a difficult thing, especially when you're not able to be together. I think it helps that we're doing it together too. Like there's an extra level of accountability. when you're doing it with your brother, you know, and he's doing it with me. So when we're on the road, I mean, that's the goal ultimately is just to do it with our family. Like Annabel does hair, Dawson's a videographer. That's how we named it.

Yeah. Dash or the band is, yeah. I would love if Fred would, I don't know, learn. Be a tour manager. Be a tour manager. Maybe Ruth's got some type of like crazy electric guitar skills. Barre could do the power techniques in our music videos. We've got to find some demolition.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They can blow stuff up in the music video. I want to be like the dad from the Jackson 5. I'll make all the losses. I'll make all the money and then I'll just, then I'll, you know. It's his talent, really, that we're pulling from.

Well, you could actually sing. You should sing. Yeah, he's really good. He is good. Do y'all talk about this yet? He's like got a killer. Do the Michael Jackson song you love. Yeah.

Do mercy. Do it. What Michael Jackson song is going on? You know, the one beat it. That's like your favorite one. He sings it all the time. Just sing it. I can't imagine seeing you stroll out in your bath row.

He can do a whole dance with it too. It's really something like or great. But it's something about that we left us because Gordon's the same way. I mean, Gordon's great. He's really good. He's the one that Kellett always got him. God is an awesome guy. God is an awesome guy.

But he would always act like he didn't want to do it. I've heard many people try that. Now, we've tried it since he left. No good. Nobody can pull it off. What's funny about that is my dad actually can sing. very well and that's the only let him see

one song all the years that we were at at the Y'all's church but he was an elder at he had one song that they would let him sing he was the one he was the one he was so well done

though when I saw him walking toward that stage everybody would get lit and I look around and if nobody had been there before I was like this is fixed me again I'm proud of that man

that's my uncle that's the only time I ever said it he was like he could see Yeah, pop up there for a dash of show. We made a do it not that long ago in the car just for fun, and he still got it. The nostalgia. We should bring him back.

But you know, it's funny because when we had the small bones on, they told the story about their beginning point. And it was her really first that kind of had the career, but everybody in the family came along. Rebecca. Yeah. Yeah. And then how that grew, but everybody in the family was involved in some way.

We resonated with their story. Yeah, that was a fantastic story. Cool. And I don't think it's healthy to do, I really don't think it's healthy to be away from your spouse, like, all the time. So it helps right now that we, I mean, we always have weeks off. So specifically during the week, I try to, like, not plan as much. If I know, like the least busy will probably ever be. No, that's true. So I don't know, yeah, I guess we're just kind of praying that God provides a way for us to bring everyone because, you know, it's hard when she, you know, Max's wife has A job and my husband has a job here. And then we're on the road. It's something we're navigating.

Something you said to me the other day, though, has been great, even just as like, you know, we're getting more opportunities and figuring out, you know, there's so many sides of the music business that we're like just now learning about and getting to maybe partake in. So it's cool. But something you said, you brought up Ben Affleck the other day and the actor and just was like, you talked about him selling his company for like a buttload of money to Netflix. and just like just talking about his like why he does it and how long he's been in the game and like what separates him from just a lot of other people in the industry of movies or whatever this is music same thing though is that he always invested what he had into something bigger than himself and just to think if somebody did that even like with with with with the Lord you know what I mean at the center of it I think what we're trying to do and the big reason why we're going to do it as a family is is to really the green family is a great example of this like I got I

to go see the museum of the Bible and just seeing like how. Maxill had worship there with Shane Everett. Yeah, that was, that changed so much for me because I saw the impact of a family that God had blessed, but they were rooted in God and invested everything into something bigger than themselves. And I mean, it blew me away. Like, it really did. Yeah.

So, yeah, it just encouraged us like, man, they're going to have people come along and tell you, you should go do your own thing, you should go do your own thing, and like kind of split you up. But we truly, truly, truly believe. that the more that we submit this onto something that's bigger than us and not even about us, and I'm not saying that in like a way that's like not genuine. Like I genuinely believe this. God is going to use it in some way or another.

And that's why it's such an honor to do as much as we fight and arguing, you know, whatever. I think that's part of it though, even with our family doing a show like Doug Dynasty or whatever. I mean, two of the main people in it, me and my dad, were like, this is the dumbest idea. But the other family members were like, well, this is, you're investing in something bigger than yourself. We're like, dumbest idea I've ever heard. But I think it takes time to see how God is going to use something because I was thinking, this is the dumbest thing. It's like Dad's famous line. It won't work unless the Almighty.

Well, and he added on the caveat, unless the always. Unless the Almighty wants it to, and then you can't stop it. As we said, you won't be able to stop. Well, the context. Yeah, the context of why I'm saying that is we had just kind of made a name for ourselves being duck hunters and doing this and shooting ducks and making little movies about ducks. And now they're talking about doing a TV show without any of that. I was like, you know, taking a western, you know, taking Clint Eastwood's pistols and saying,

all right, now go do, go shoot somebody. It's just not going to work. So that's kind of was my. mindset but in the end I think that is the point. Well, I was the Simone, you said, I love what you said a minute ago about in that moment of recognition even in both your hearts when you have people there. And I thought about we all stand in front of people and, you know, to have a gift, an ability for people to grab their attention for however much time you got and to have that is precious. I mean,

So few people have the ability, whether it's through music, whether it's through speaking, whatever, to get someone's attention for a few minutes. And the fact we're all doing it for kingdom purposes makes it great. But you recognize that in your gift. I do it too. And you see them and you know. A lot of times Lisa and I do it together. And I'm able to watch them as she's speaking. And I'm just like, man, to get that, to have that ability, that's a special gift.

Well, that was my point saying that is give members of your. your family or your spouses, that opportunity to realize this is a process. Because, I mean, the worst year of me and my wife's marriage was our first year because I was so far on fire for the Lord. I was sharing Jesus with people that snowballed just every night. And it started getting to where, because she was working to, you know, so we had some food on the table. We had to eat during the process.

I was so all in and Jesus that I, like. like verses like go sell everything you have and follow me. I mean, that's where I was at. And so all these people come to the Lord and it was exciting. We both were excited. But after a year, it just kind of came crashing down as in, we need to somehow do this together. Because it was getting to a point where when does the last time I saw you?

And, you know, it's like a good thing that you were doing. It was a great thing we were doing. But we weren't really doing it together. And so we had to start making some adjustments while doing the same thing and it slowly got better. I'm just saying I think there is a process and enjoying that process even though it's bumpy is part of building something really stable.

Yeah. One thing that I think is super cool about what you are doing and we've talked about this a lot when you guys actually started this because lately you, y'all both done a lot of Christian music, worship music. You've sang with, you done a couple albums with Sadie. You guys both did internships with. the shanes and did an album

and wrote an album with those guys. What are you out, 20? How are you doing on this stuff? I don't know. They started. I love what you guys are doing because you are believers. You are Christians in a quote unquote secular space

singing country music. I said, why would you do that? Well, like this is a place where ideas are being shaped where imaginations for what the good life is. That's where it's being shaped at through the lyrics we listen to. So you take a a song like Grandpa Clocks and like first time I heard that I'm like

this is like in the Psalms Teach us Lord a number of our days I mean it's like that that's what you're doing You're singing a song that can bring people into a posture to complement their mortality And that life is on this side Life is temporary but yet there's a yearning for more We're made for more

That to me is that that's the space And what Anne Wilson when she came on the podcast I was so encouraged at your buddy Connor Connor Smith Smith and some of these guys I'm like, man, it's exciting to see these young folks are like. It's so cool. But all those guys, like, you see the ripples of what they're doing

and their impact just in Nashville alone, but across the world, I mean, in the nation, just putting God first and then making good music. And it just was encouraging to know, like, we're all, I don't know, I feel like we're a part of this cool movement, especially right now and being in Nashville, like, just watching, like, the legacy of what he's doing. And then what we're trying to create

and build from the ground up, and then you just see so many things like birthed out of people that follow Jesus. At Volvo, safety is not a feature. It's our purpose. Rigorous crash testing. Decades of learning from real accidents. Innovations that help prevent accidents before they happen and help protect you when they occur.

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and someone in an audience or someone that was come to talk to him, and he would tell us, maybe he would say, I mean, you look at him, always one thing happens every time when someone finally comes to it, tears, tears. Remember what he'd say that?

He got all that. When you describe that, many of guys think about that, those tears, that's coming out of people's hearts. And so that music is connecting them. So, yeah, and I love the idea. Said by a man who hadn't cried in 60 years. Until his last few years, then he couldn't stop. Well, I'm the worst.

I was watching that movie that Willie and them did. I mean, I'm just ugly crying at 2 o'clock in the afternoon on my own couch. I had to get it walk out of the room. I was embarrassed because Lisa was looking at me. And I was like, but I mean, when you're finally open and in fact, you know in anything and you're emotionally connected that's what you love about it and that's what music does that's what that's what we do that's what that's what god does to people too well look we're in the last segment so are y'all gonna do some music here we got i mean can y'all do some i'm gonna go

get my guitar yeah what are you going to play for you you want to tell about it yeah um this song is called wash atoll woods and uh you all would know what wash at all is you spell that oh you a C-H-H-H-H-E-H-H-E-H-E-S-H-E-H-E-E-H-E-S-E. H-I-T-A, by the way. I was fixed to say how many people can spell it. Yeah, most of the people think it's like Wichita, but, no, it's Wachita. Louisiana has a weird habit of having words spelled one way and pronouncing another. Go tigers. Which the river that you guys live on.

Watch at our river. Yeah, it's kind of a full-circle moment because we wrote it from a place of just, I don't know, we got to live a great childhood running around in the woods in Wachita-Tarish. and just, you know, fishing with Gordon and down in that area and, you know, just exploring, like, and so we kind of live this life where we were, like, I don't know, making worlds out of our imagination and just, like, living this life. And it's just kind of a full-connected, like, story just about what our childhood was like, but also just about, like, the people that came before us. And I think it was really, it really started to speak more to me once Phil passed,

just thinking about that the, the, the, the, the, the, Not the ghost in the sense, but just the spirit and the legacy of a man echoes through us today. And just the things in the time that I'd spent with him and so many other people, it still echoes through. Jan. Yeah, yeah. May May, your mom, I mean, I just think about, like, it echoes through this guitar and in our voice. And so, I don't know, it's a special song for us, and you can listen to it on Spotify and hop right over there and listen to it if you're on it or anything anywhere else.

Yeah, we'll sing the first first. Yeah, Wash the Tall Woods. The ghost of a dead man haunts my guitar and his lonesome cries of mahogany pines trapped in the back of a railroad car. I hope that you'll see me when I fly to my home. Remember the Washataw Woods

Hold them summers back In the creek banks where the ladies stood I've got a story to tell Battle scars and watermarks So make my Washetaw spirit well I've been a stranger So I'm told The little white lies fill the beds of my

You'll see me when I fall to my The Washton Hold them summers back In the creek banks where the ladies stood, I've got a story to tell. Battle scars and watermarks will make my wash at tall spirit well. Battle scars in watermarks will make my wash at tall spirit well. Battle scars and watermarks will make my wash at tall spirit well. Good, girl.

Y'all come a long way since the last one of honor. Thank you. Yeah, if you've got a time, we'll do a verse and, of course, of the next, or not the next one we have coming out, but it'll be coming out soon. And this is one we're super excited about. We'll just do that first verse course and that last verse. Well, I'm real excited about this.

So it's called Grandpa Clocks and Gravestones, and it's a song about a life well lived. I want to take an Indian down the Pacific Coast. I want to meet up with an old friend share a beer and raise a toast and I hope that by next winter I'm not so bitter after all I want to stay up playing cards with folks I love I want to know I've got some purpose from someone up above and I'll take a boat to Boston and wonder if I'm lost in my own mind Standing on

Looking at the places That I've been And their limbs of my mothers Fill the brim And hold steady I'm not Rocks and gray I want to see my woman

Standing next to me As I draw my final breath In Paris, Tennessee And I hope that as I'm leaving I'm proud of all the thing standing on looking at the places that I've been and darlings of my mother's still the brown.

Staddy locks and gravestone. Thank you all for having us. Thank you all so much. I'm ashamed. Go check them out on Spotify, Dash or the Band, Instagram. Dash of the Band. And if you're playing, where are you going to play it next? We'll be playing.

We're doing a lot of Northeast shows. We're on our website, Dash of the Band. We've got people up there. Come on. We're going to Dash of the Bay. I'm going to see you all out there. We love you guys.

Glad we finally had you guys on. Yeah, thank y'all so much. So the reason I had you sing last, we couldn't follow up that. I mean, a silly little conversation is not going to work. I think you're going to make it because you're actually singing country music and you can sing. I mean, we're just in a room.

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