Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 142 | Jase Makes a Woman Bawl, a Visitor Meets Phil's AR, & the Perfect 2020 Song by Rhett Walker

Episode Date: September 9, 2020

Al is back, and Grammy-nominated singer Rhett Walker and youngest bro Jep Robertson stop by. Jase makes an Unashamed listener burst into tears in a parking lot, and Phil greets a surprise visitor at his gate. But first, Jase's bat-watching experience is a big flop, and both of his houses have holes in the roof. Phil performs another river baptism for a man in a wheelchair. And Rhett talks about living out the message of hope and faith in his music — even in a year like 2020.  - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? You know, I thought our Zach been pretty good. Well, I'm wondering, though, so I take a week off. I was fleeing the hurricane, and then we had some family members get COVID. So I took off. Zach came in. I mean, it's just like the whole world went to pot.

I mean, I mean, the podcast had to move to town. Oh, it's a hurricane. I mean, now I'm fumigate my house from the COVID. I mean, it's just what's. What's going on? While you were at the beach or whatever, no, I think you got it's at an event. We had a hurricane come through. There was an event, but there was some beach.

There was some disruption that happened. But Zach did okay? He handled my trip. Well, it got a little weird because when we started doing the ads, he went into the color commentator. It was like he started fluctuating his voice. And I thought, I've got to tell him that. And so I just told him, I said, you might ought to turn the intensity level down a couple notches. So he was the guy selling the thing that goes on the boat that goes out in the glass boat.

He kind of became that guy. He didn't know he was doing it. I guess it's subconscious. And so I told him in front of everybody, I think. I don't know if they cut it on the podcast. Yeah, I don't know if they cut it. He was sounding like the guy who wants you to buy the stop leaks of all kinds, fish tanks, you know, roofs. Oh, that commercial's awesome.

I mean, it's... You know, when he said, who would make a boat out of glass, or no one would make a boat out of glass, but I would. I would buy that stuff just because of that. That was the zone Zach was in, that zone right there, and I'm like, you know,

tone her down a little bit. Well, I just mentioned it, and he kind of turned red, and he was awesome. He quit doing all that, modulating his voice. So I don't think he knew he's doing it. But look, if I got a clerk, lay it on me. Well, you know, Zach used to...

It made you sound smooth indeed. Well, you know, what can you say about that? But Zach called me after that first day. I said, well, how did it go? He said, well, I appreciate what you do a lot more. I said, well, good. Maybe that'll work well. I mean, when your family,

I think it's better. I mean, it goes back to what Phil used to tell in the cooking world. If something is weird or bothering you or like in food, it's not good. It's best just to bring it up. Whatever happens happens. Everything needs to be from time to time critiqued, especially food. Because if it's no good and you're faking it and you're saying, this is delicious when you barely can swallow it.

But you're insuring yourself, if you brag on it, It's bad cooking for that day on. Because they think, well, he loves it. That's right. We've got to fix it like that again. So don't let it slide when he comes to cooking. You say, we can't eat it. Second line of defense, we'll see if the dogs will.

And we'll put it outside. If the dogs, they run from it. I said, don't cook it like that anymore. Yeah, it does it. That's about every 10 days. If you and the dog say, uh-uh. So we do at our marriage retreat, there's one of the questions in the New Louisville.

game and it says what's something your husband you know tells you is great but he really doesn't like that's one of those questions for the thing and i've always been amazed that of everything that'll be the one that's truly shocking to her because he'll say so his answer and she's like well i thought you love you love that i mean you told me and he's like you know and then everybody starts laughing but it's just what you said i mean it's like you know she's convinced it's good yeah i have i'm i'm on the other end you know some things i should just let slide but i just can't help it i just have to i have to bring it up let 10 people cook the same roast same cut put it out there everybody's got their own way of fixing it all 10 sit around one two three four five six seven number 10 they're all sitting

around they try everybody's recipe they say number five well they'll go around the thing and if seven out of ten says number five that's the way he cooked it that way they critique it yeah it's not a question of oh my feelings are hurt because that's better you're just critiquing it and you're saying this is really good well they vote for it well that way

they end up being better chefs because every cooking show competition show which there's tons of them out there is built on that exact thing that's exactly and they're pretty brutal you know you ought to bring that down to the family level and let your wife know. Look, sometimes, honey.

I'll learn the heart. I've blown it on many recipes. I mean, you know. We're honest about it. I first started making the jambal eye, and the first two or three, out the door they went. I said, no.

Did the dog, er, er, uh. I ran up on that old boy from New Orleans. I ran up on his recipe, and I said, let me just try this old guy from New Orleans. The phone's or best? But who would have thought to put mustard and flour on a croppy?

I would have slapped somebody for even having that. idea. I'm not, I mean, I like mustard. Okay, I guess. But. And a lot of mustard goes in there when you're doing it. Oh, I've seen people look at it and they're like, I don't want to eat that. I'm like, trust me, you, you, once you, once you taste this. I had one other night, he said, that's the solid, whoa, I was just, they said, do these taste like, can you taste the mustard in because he was thinking, this thing going to over first. He just ruined it. I said, not really. I said, He just makes a nice batter, but it's not like an intense mustard flavor.

Of course, after he nailed about the sixth crop, he'll be like, yeah, he's right. Yeah. The approval test. You tell whether something's good or not when you look up there and the plate is empty. Well, they brought some guy we played cards with over to eat deer because he didn't like deer. And, of course, he'd never have my deer. That's been saying he hadn't had the right deer. My deer.

He only weighed, you know, he's a little fellow when I started the process, which makes but deer but he was watching me prepare it and he was just shaking his head like no he's like nope that whoa way too much pepper because i was hammering that pepper and he's like oh i can't eat that i mean he just didn't want to eat it anyway and then he watched me and was griping the whole way saying nope so he got a little piece up when they're ready i could tell he thought it was going to be bad but he he ate it and he's like that's the best thing i've ever hit my life then he just got like a quarter of the platter. What happened to this?

I don't like pepper or what you're doing to your buttermilk. Tony, my long-lost daughter's husband, he had it right. He said, I've been eating y'all's cooking for the last few months. And he said, so I'm here to give you some information.

I will never cook for you people. He said, I'm out. I'm out. He knows. I've just tasted your cooking. And I know. what I can do, I'm out.

Which Eastwood said, a man's got to know his limitations, right? That's it. Dirty Harry. Well, so we got Jeff in the house from Austin. What's up? Welcome back to the... We moved to the Laird since the last time you were here. We moved out all the bunk beds.

Yeah, it looks awesome in here. It's pretty good. So, Jeff, how's your orphan work? You're doing? It's doing awesome. Yeah, it is doing awesome. And you brought a guest to introduce a guest. Yes.

I brought Rhett Walker. Hey, hey. How did it. An amazing album out right now. My favorite. So, Red, you're a singer. I'm a singer, songwriter. Well, you know.

Yeah, but I'm kind of afraid to talk on the mic now because I don't want to change my voice to sound like the flexilk. And I was looking at you. I've got a new record out. And you singer songwriter. Red's the only one that remembered it was Flexil. Yeah, I could not think of that. I could neither.

The guy with the boat. I kept seeing the chickens, which I never figured that out on the commercial. They're like, there's some chickens. and he takes the wire down. That's the flex seal on the chickens. Well, I think he, no, he took the wire off of a chicken cage, and then he put the flexil on the wire and built a boat.

But my point was, why did you actually have the chickens in the cage? I mean, did somebody say, I think it'd look better if you had the chickens in the cage. People will believe it. It looked like he just got the wire. Yeah. I'm like, what is the chickens?

chicken thing about it. But then at the end, when he's riding through the boat, you know, because he may want out of glass, he may want a chicken wire. And he's riding. Then there's like, the camera pans over and there's like a chicken on the boat. I haven't seen this chicken. It's the easiest thing you've ever said, but you know what? It's sold. It's entertaining. You remember it. The guy that was before this guy died, you know, Billy something. He was the guy with a beard. I mean, he had been on all those same commercials. What, the same kind of stuff? Yeah, the same products and almost every informational.

They all copy his particular. That's exactly right. Well, you know, when my, the tree fell on my roof, I'm up there. I'm great at destroying things. Terrible at fixing. We've documented that. By the way, is the center blocks still under the dishwasher in your kitchen? The center blocks are still.

So Missy just, she just gave it. She gave up. She let it ride. What I've learned about the female race. But she didn't move to Austin. Is that even though it might be. lumpy if it looks I mean somebody comes in and there's some

cinder blocks because I'm proud of it I'm like I fix that dishwasher with two cinder blocks I mean MacGiver made a hundred episodes doing this kind of garbage and I'm sitting there I finally fix something and she doesn't like the way it looks and I'm like put you a little

what they call those little garter you know you can put it like a little curtain I mean I said that I said put a little curtain on the bottom of it you like it kind of stuff I'm out of mind. Yeah. So anyway, that's fixed.

But what I've learned is functionality wins out in the end. The dishwasher would not work. It was a balance issue. After I tore it up, I fixed it with the center block. And then she finally just got over it. And she uses the dishwasher.

But on the roof, I was thinking I thought of that commercial, which, you know, they need to sponsor the show against as much airtime work. But I thought, Because I thought, I don't know how to fix this. I have a hole in my roof.

So I called, I figured Jay would know. Jay said, I don't know, call a redneck. I said, that's why I called you. Maybe we can use that. So Cole, our technician, was telling us when he first came in to set up here, he and the guys, to put all our equipment stuff in here, he goes in, there's a closet over here off camera. And he's going in there to get some stuff.

And there's a big huge rat snake in that. closet right there. Nope. And just, you know, and so then they're trying to, we've got to get him in a bucket, get him out of here. Of course, there's a, there's a hole over there where they're coming through because I'm sure there's plenty of rats in this structure. Probably sure.

Because out in the middle of nowhere. So it was like, what other podcast studio? I wonder if Joe Rogan, when he just got his new studio down in Texas, I wonder if he had a rat snake issue. I got clear the snakes out for you game here. That's exactly. Only on the unashamed pocket. Look, I'm telling you, I was looking at that root thing, what I was going to do?

And a guy, my neighbor literally was driving by. and just saw me standing there, and he rode down his window. I was looking, he said, you need some help? I said, yep. And so he come down there, but I didn't know he's like a contractor or whatever. That's what he does. He took a little roll, looked like aluminum, and he just cut a couple sheets and everywhere there's a hole. He popped his little holes, you know.

I was like, great. I was like, can I take credit for this? He's like, sure. Oh, is this from your, where the tree found your house? Yeah, I mean, I didn't fix it because he's like, that'll work. Because I thought, well, he fixed the roof. Because I thought functionality, I don't care if there's two silver plates where there were some seables. You need to have backup on that.

Yeah, he said, no, it's a temporary thing. I was like, oh. Because I just. But we flex sealed it. So it stuck. Yeah. Hold on your pocketbook, Jay. It's a roofing job.

I'm like, so this won't work? He's like, well, it'll work in temporary. I was like, hmm. I thought, I don't care what it looks like now. He said, yeah, but your wife will, which is what I'm coming back to that. I said, no, I think we've passed that. We've, as long as she doesn't walk on this side of the house, which she really doesn't be shocked if you have that much, you're not having to have a new roof anyway.

If you had a new roof since you got on? Do you know when they had to put their last roofing job on it? Have you had a risk? That doesn't matter. I mean, there was a hole, which I realized when I took the limb out of the roof, because I was up there, you know, the blowout. Oh, it matters. And I'm like, how could this? I have no idea.

Yeah. Well, it puts the original roof. I'm not a home improvement guy. I don't, it looks okay. Yeah. And I identify. When water begins to drip inside in places. It can drip inside.

I was raised with a family structure. And if the water was not dripping and falling on you, it was going. good. I mean, the roof leaked in places, but as long as it was not over you, if you couldn't move out of the way, then you went up and see if you could fix it. I've got kind of a dual citizenship going in Texas. That's a long story. That's why I'm visiting Jeff all the time.

I have a brand new house. Now, I'm not going to be there long because it's just temporary. It's a temporary thing. It's like your roof pass. This thing was just built. And it rains, I hear. Boop, bloop, blip, boop, bloop. There's just water coming down out of one of the light fixtures.

I mean, it's been built two weeks. Finished? Always a bad sign. That's what I thought. Somebody missed something. Hang on, let's take a quick break. So Missy called the people who built it because, you know, we're talking, it's still under whatever.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. And he was like, yeah, you know, there's a storm. them today. Nobody's working, you know. And so she was telling me this. I was like, no, you need to call that guy back. If you build a house and it's brand new and it's immediately leaking, you say, hey, get

somebody over here. So she did. And they came. It's like, oh. And the guy who came over, he's like, yep, bad roofing. I was like, you think? See, he's like, oh, I fixed it, you know. I was like, long term or temporary?

He's like, temporary. So I thought, well, I've got two houses, and both of them, the roots are leaking. So you asked me how old it was. I got one that's two weeks old, and it's leaking worse than the one that had a tree in it. So if I had to do it over again, I shouldn't have taken the tree limb out. It's kind of like, you know, it's like these movies, somebody gets stabbed. You're okay as long as it's still in there. Once you take it out, you've got to.

to get that fixed immediately. So, Jeff, back to Red here. Where'd you run up on Red? We met years ago through, how did we meet? Bill, you know, Rhett. You've met this. He's been on Doug Dynasty. He was on an episode of Duck Dynasty.

So which one was that? You didn't Reed. Yeah, it was the one where Reed did the CD release show. That's right. So we came down. Me and Mac, Mac Powell. Yeah. So you're a singer, you're a gospel singer, country singer,

Gospel singer. Gospel singer. And I think it was right after I got signed in 2011 and put out first record. And somehow we connected. I don't know how it was. But I sent like a gift bag to y'all, some shirt, CDs, all that stuff. And then all of a sudden I got some Duck Dynasty stuff. And I was like, oh, this is awesome.

We were exchanged. We call that quid pro quo. So has the pandemic affected? affected that particular lifestyle. I mean, it looked like me. I mean, can you get people? It's been... You can't draw a crowd, I don't think, maybe.

It's been a year, for sure. So we played two full band shows that they socially distanced, which was, I know you got to do it, but it was weird because everybody was just so far back. Same with preaching, yeah. Yeah, and you know, you put all this, like, effort into these songs to sing about truth and grace

and kind of connect with people, and there's no connection. It kind of feels weird. But my wife was happy because I had been home. She homeschools and I'd been home since the top of the year. We played one show, March 15th, and they were like, we're shutting it down. We need to hear what old Rhett let him play a tune. Yeah, we're going to. He's got, when I heard, you had a song that I have on my playlist.

Now I've forgotten the exact name, but it's something about come to the river. That's it. That's the name. nailed it. Come to the river. Yeah. I was trying to get the tune in my head. Because I've always felt like Phil's in the middle of nowhere down here.

By the way, there are a lot of individuals. I reckon it's this podcast. I'm not sure. But it's talking about coming to the river. I mean, in the last two or three weeks, I mean, it's been well over 100 people who have come to be back. baptized where I was up there because you got Willie and UJS U.S. U.S. U.S. O.N. O'Ns over there. You went at different locations. Different locations. But they're coming. I just noticed, I looked down and they were giving me the names and addresses.

And some of them, I'm just asking, where are you from? And, but they said, well, we come all the way down here. They basically came from about 10 different states. Wow. And gathered up. And the, Women went on one side and the men on the other, you know, getting in some old clothes and whatever. And we would just, it was just a, it was a happening. Yeah, most of it is, you guys, it's the unashamed audience. I mean, obviously it's impacting. The best two, I saw were two women. One was like 25, and I said, who's that with you?

And she said, she was standing on the stair. They were coming down into the baptistery. And she said, I came here. we came here, mom and I from New York City. I said, New York City. New York City. I said, well, y'all look perfectly normal. She said, well, the truth is, I've been an atheist all my life, Mr. Robertson.

And this was the daughter. She said, I've been an atheist all my life. She said, I would be called a left-wing liberal from way back. And she said, I've got to listen to you guys, whatever. read one of your books and she said, I just looked and I thought, she said, what in the world am I doing? If this, with immortalities looking at me in the face and I'm sitting here, you know, rocking through life and, you know, rioting, whatever, get out in there,

march with them and all the black lives matter and all that. I said, well, tell you your brothers and sisters are all sitting out here now. I said, you're fixing to be added to the kingdom of God. I said, tell them your stories. And she did. She said, I came all the way down here, and her mom was with her. I baptized both of them, but it was a cool, cool thing. Well, how did that song, I know you got a new album, but how did that song come about to come to the river?

Because it just fits here. I mean, we share Jesus. People, you know, they come down here, they hear about Jesus. We have a river, and that's just what we do, you know. There was one guy came down day before yesterday. Owens called me and they said we have this guy he's a paraplegic he's paralyzed

from his waist down been that way for a while and he wants us to baptize him what do you think? I said bring him on down here we'll figure it out so he went down there in his wheelchair but they had another one that was a little bit

better suited for water kind of a scale down version we got him and put him out of the one wheelchair and put him in the other one turned it around backwards, and I got three of the status ones we had around there, and we just rolled it down where we launched our boats and got in there. It's a new song, I'd have to the river. Yeah, the water was coming up deeper on him all the time,

and I told those guys, just right off the end of this boat ramp, it drops off about 12 feet, so if this thing gets away from us, I said, this is going to be baptism. He wasn't baptized. He was launched. We should use that anyway. We turned the wheelchair, like, you know, we just turned it over with him in it. And I said, Justice, man, we've got you.

Don't worry about it. That's awesome. That's pretty good. And down he goes. It's wheelchair and him. And we got up. Well, then the trick was, you know, it's a steep boat ramp there. You got to get him back up.

You know, that really highlights, though, what you're doing. Because we know it's about Jesus saving you, but you're surrendering and you're surrendering and you're trust. And in that case, you really see it. Because I'm like... Because it literally become the watery grave. I mean, you know... By the way for all the paraplegic...

I saw a man like you and I'm combined to a wheelchair and I'm like, trust me, it'll be okay. I don't... I reminded him, I said, always remember this, my man. I said, at the resurrection, I said, we all going to die. I said, you and all over the rest of us. I said, but at the resurrection, I said, you would be equipped whole with another body. and I said you'll be able to jump and jump and did he know you didn't have a bicep that you were unicep? You were out there trying to.

Well, he had three other people. I want to hear how that song came about. So, yeah, so I moved to Nashville 2010, 2009. And so is it like a madhouse when you go into? It's a madhouse in Nashville. I sense that, but I don't know. We moved out of there. We're back in South Carolina now.

I was there as long as I needed to. Yeah. It's kind of like people that are actors. They move out to Hollywood and they're like, I can't stay here. You got to do the thing. So you're just jocke in for a position or? Yeah. So I'll back up, just kind of set the story up. Me and my wife, we got married 16 years ago.

I was 17, she was 18. Wow. Got pregnant. You fit right in with us. It was, I'm a pastor's kid, small town USA erupted, you know, when they found out I got my girlfriend pregnant. And they were telling my dad, how can you, you know, run a church, can't even raise your family.

Like he had anything to do with it. And so, you know, we, We were kind of focused on herself, and I was like, man, we're, we're messing up literally everything we do. We're trying to make this hard. So I was like, if we're going to make it through life, we got to keep her eyes on Jesus. And that sounds cliche, but we surrendered our lives. We surrendered our marriage, and we surrendered that kid. And so now we got four kids in 16 years.

But we moved to Nashville man on a dream. Like, she was, she's the smart one. So she had a, she was going, you know. So you're married, not only an older woman, but a wiser. You married up. A wiser for sure. She was going to school to be a doctor. And so she was like, man, I don't want to do this.

I want to stay home with the baby. And I was like, you know what? That's fine, because music is going to take care of it. Thank the Lord that it worked out. Because she might have killed. That sounds similar to a story that had a, you know, fishing is going to give us, you know, our way to start. I'm going to sell millions of these.

Yeah. And it turned out to work. Let's take another quick break. So obviously. Yes. So we moved to Nashville. And, you know, I was writing these songs. I read a song called When Mercy Found Me and I started writing this song,

Come to the River. But it happened with, we'd been there for a year almost two, just trying to, you got to meet everybody. You're trying to do this. Trying to like put your name out there and do all that minute. It just things were tough. You know, we were young with, I think we had on, we're our two. kids we're about to have a third kid then and so I was getting kind of frustrated and trying to

figure out life and so I told my wife this why I do when when I felt like I got to get alone I just jumped in the truck and it was me and God time and so driving down the road complaining yelling whining I just feel like God was kind of listening letting that moment happen and I didn't really and you have to be careful when you perform because you know the seems like the best looking chicks get down on that front part I don't think so much a Christian God well what I'm saying is

no you yeah yeah you know you just me and my guys in the band we we take care of each other we don't let anything slide at all my dad always said there's you know there's no few minutes worth ruining everything you've worked hard for

so I'm going on 16 years and ain't nothing stock and also my wife is my wife's beautiful I hope that works that well for you yeah well that's when we got four kids because it's beautiful. But man, I took a right, and I ended up at a boat dock, like just right on the river. And so I started thinking, if I had drove any further, I drove into the water. I was like, God, what are you trying to show me here?

And I thought back to, you know, if we can thirst for everything, we can chase after everything, but there's one everlasting water that quenches all that thirst and it's Jesus. And so I was like, you know what, I give this to you. And a redneck from South Carolina, like, I'm a kick the door in kind of guy. That's really, really hard to be like, you know, you can't do it being lazy. Right. But it's like, God, if this is going to work just like everything else in my life, I'm going to mess it up if I keep focusing on me. So you got it.

Just be patient, man. Yeah. I like that song even more now. Yeah. That's what I love hearing songwriters. So you had heard this song before? Have I heard it? It's on my playlist.

I mean, he hears it regularly. Yeah. It's part. It made the cut in my playlist. I guess I'm going to get off a bad company in Cretus Clearwater Redial. We start hearing some real jive around here. Hey, he has a CCR feel to his music. I mean, that's, I think, what makes you unique, you know.

Yeah, I mean, you can. I'm still there locked into, I heard it through the grave line. I've tried to tell you, sometimes when you put in, you know, songs about Jesus that are creatively done. You bet you. I mean, he can play. Oh, yeah. It has a, I don't want to classify.

your music but it has a little southern rock field to it i don't think i could get away from it my dad it was it was skinner come from a music family oh yeah my dad he he's saying he's seen quartets and my sister she's the she's the singer like she i mean my gosh have you thought about teaming up with her i mean like no because then she'll take the limelike a young guy his sister they're in the carpenters the carpenters yeah yeah no because then she'll take the limelight it'll be about her i I need my career. You need your vibe. He's kind of being, I mean, it's like Scotty Pippinson.

Now, Jordan, he's the real player. You're doing pretty good yourself there, buddy. But no, I mean, yeah, guys have been good. We've been traveling on and off. And my first single got nominated for a Grammy, and it was, really? Yeah, we went. And we didn't slow down. And so until now, until 2020.

And like I said, I think I bought more bread and milk than I ever have. My wife is, when she's homeschooling, she's like, you've got to go somewhere. Because if I want to snack, kids want to snack, I mess up her whole vibe at the house. I think soon as this vaccine comes up, Trump gets that all lined out, maybe a few months into 2021. I'm sure hoping and praying he wins. But with the vaccine, things are in the music industry anywhere else. I think it's. We hope so.

You know, I was reading something recently that said they weren't even really planning any, like, the music festivals or anything until, at earliest late 2021 is there even a possibility so I think it's going to take a couple of years really for the whole industry yeah because you know all this uncertainty but you say that and then there are pockets of people I mean like the event I did that I talked about they just said to heck with it we're doing it that wasn't oh six feet apart and nobody had a mask on and I didn't get the coronavirus so it's fine but even when I was in Austin this this weekend with jeep i did a uh i kind of you know i like the idea of a mask when i'm doing something that would i would deem yuppie five because my wife's just like look we want to go downtown and ride

segways and just see downtown i'm like good y'all take off she's like no we want you to come with it and uh you know you remember the segue jill was you on that in hawaii was a dynastity episode but everyone got hurt. I have a scar on my right shin. Because nobody told us how to use them because they wanted us. Well, they wanted you to get hurt. Yeah, they wanted.

Si, saw it all bam, bounced off the ground about three times. Hey, I thought every bone in his body was just... What's that first step, boys? This is a doozy. Willie fell off. So I just, all that came to the forefront of my mind. She's like, anybody can do this. No.

She's like, we all go down there. And they watch the bats at dark, you know, take off. It's like a tradition. Have you done this? Never done it. I've seen them lined up there. I'm like, no. Well, I did.

So I go because I thought, well, I have a mask on. Every bat movie I ever saw turned out badly for the... I thought I have a mask on so nobody would know it's me. So we go, look, I get the little helmet on you. I put it on backward first, which was kind of funny, ha-ha. I got on the segue, and I was the most shaky one because this thing, you know, You drive it with your feet, where your feet are. You have a handle that you can just turn.

But you don't lean back. If you lean back, I mean, it's trouble starts out. You have to keep your shoulders square. So anyway, I got used to it. We all take off. Everything's fine. We go down here. There's, I would say, 2,000 people under this bridge.

Because there's nowhere to go. You get 2,000 people. They're everywhere. And I'm like, now most people had a mask on, but still, I'm like, things go through masks. I mean, if you're just in a mass of people, but everybody's seen. Oh, air's going through there. All right.

So I'm like, you know. Of course, you know what's sad? The bats, about right before dark, 10 or 12 bats came down from under the bridge and went back up. And I was like, there's two hours of my life. I can't get back. That's it. And this, I said, so I said what everybody, everybody, because everybody was like, Nobody was saying anything because they kept waiting.

And I said, I don't believe it was going to happen. And this girl who we later met, who was 100% yuppie, she said, you didn't see them? I said, those 10 or 12 that came down? Yeah, I saw them. I just thought it would be a little. I was thinking, Batman, you know, tens of thousands. At least as many bats as there were people, right? I mean, that's what kind of yours.

So then when I got back up there, I was like, these people were. so yuppie-fied that thousands of people will gather on their bridge to watch ten or twelve bats grab a mosquito and they all felt good about it. It was an outing. What a great night on the town. I thought about Phil when he's like, what's wrong with America? They're all crowded. I mean, this was the show?

You come down here and I'll show you a little bit. That was a little bit of a downer. All right, so we're going to take another break and then we want to have a real singer on the Unashamed Pite. And we've all sang at different times like O'Camp. Canada and different dad sings this little CCR every once in a while, but we've got a real singer here. We'll see. We're not singers.

All right. All right, Red. Oh, he's going to sing. He's going to sing. He's going to sing. Oh, right. What do we sing? This is our first time to have a musical guest on the Unashamed podcast.

Rat Walker. I'll play a new one. This is a song I wrote a year and a half ago. And you can't plan for the. state of the world and what it is. But I wrote this song because, man, about 2016-17, I became the, I guess, a cynical, the cynical kind of butt that I said I was never going to be. I was going to be thankful.

Whatever God gave me, thankful. Well, you know, then you get going through life and if a radio single don't work, it's the radio person's fault or I've showed it. I'm blaming on booking. So I got off the road and what I realized was I don't think I stooped. like the vision and dream that God had placed on my life that well. And I was just tired. I was exhausted.

So I stepped out and got to go to church with my family, got to coach my kids, softball and baseball and football teams. And just really stepped back, man, and sitting listening to those sermons and listening to those like corporate worship songs in church. It reminded me, this is why I do what I do. Like I want to sing about peace, joy, love, happiness. Like I know the sustaining kind only comes from Jesus. And so, man, I didn't know if I'd messed it up.

Like I was, you know, off the road. I was like, maybe you can't disappear for too long, you know, people forget about you real quick. So I started writing this stuff, man, and I went to go write to someone with a buddy of mine, and he was like, man, you stepped out of the industry. Like, what are you writing for now? I said, man, I don't know. I said, but one thing that I can say from being babies having babies,

playing arenas, getting out of music, all the different things, the good times and the bad times, like all God has ever been is good he's been constant and faithful he's proven he's able and so I wrote this song and then 2020 hit and I was like man

now I got to live out these songs like you know the proofs in the pudding with our genre of music like if do you sing these songs because radio is going to play it or because you get to travel or do you sing these songs because you 100% believe it and so this year has been the hardest year to live out a song that I wrote

But I'm, you know, I'm doing my, I'm doing my best and trying not to become the cynical but again. But, man, honestly, even in this year, God's been good, you know, so this is called good to me. When it all don't go the way I planned when I work so hard for what I still don't have, when my best is just not good enough to class. Clouds turn dark and gray. I know you've always made a way. So I will loom in the eye. I wore my size.

First told my last word. Now, Ellen in a poor is good. And my face you'll give up. Yeah, you meet my side. That was good, Rhett. feel what you've been missing. That was awesome. Let's take one last break.

So, Jeff, tell us what you got going with Rick, because you've got some pretty cool stuff going. We're doing a live, we're doing a live virtual concert on September 30th for all God's children. And thanks to y'all and my boy Blake, we have a $25,000 match already ready. Awesome. Our goal was to get that much more. Yeah. So check it out.

So what, Facebook Live? Facebook Live. On All Guys Children's Facebook page, right? Yep. You'll see it. We all going to put up a little caption. Yeah, we'll get cold, take care of that. That's awesome.

So everything that's raised, we already got a match because of the family and some others, which is perfect. So we're so excited about it. And Rhett, I mean, obviously, is super talented. We just proved that. And so where can they, like, find your music? And then tell us about your podcast, too, because I've got a podcast. And you have a new album. I do have a new album.

And it's called Good to Me. And man, you know, I wrote this record. That is a perfect song for right now. Yeah. You're so right. I mean, not just for you. Yeah. But for everybody.

I mean, I think it's, you know, I was talking a lot of people at the beginning of this thing. They, you know, it was like, hey, let's push everything back to June. Let's push everything back to September. Let's push everything back to 2040. Like, it was just constantly, you know, and traveling, like, that's what we do. That's embedded in us to like go perform and connect with people. And so I've just tried to. keep my head up as a father of four.

You know, my teenage daughter of me, it was like, my summer's ruined. I'm like, baby, everybody's summer's ruined. So we're going to have it. Yeah, exactly. But, you know, thinking back on just every walk of life, like with my dad being a pastor and doing the parking lot church, just everybody's been put out, you know. So being able to focus on the goodness of God, I think is been the only thing that's really kept me, kept me going in this, you know, because it's easy.

It's easy to complain. And I also think, you know, it's okay to get worried. Like, he's our heavenly father. He's looking at us as his kids. Like, it's okay to be worried, but we don't live in fear. And so that was kind of, the weird thing is that was kind of the whole thing of this new record. It was like, man, we don't live in fear. And so many times we do ourselves a disservice, I believe.

We focus on the depravity, which we got to. And we focus on the mess ups and the hard times. But we don't focus on the goodness. Yeah. There's joy, even in 2020, there's joy to be found. That's right. I've seen more fear in human beings in America in the last four months since February than I've ever seen. In your whole life?

My whole life, I've never seen people this scared, walking around trying to think of who's breathing on you. Somebody calls and you look like you shot over their head. Don't sneeze in public now. Oh, but I think for us who are in Jesus, I mean, because even like Red, I mean, he come out here. admitted you admitted your failures you made it known to everyone your love for Jesus and then even when you sang that's what I like about your music it's like you turn your heart inside out and sing with passion and and you were humble about your about your singing but to me I'm like if this is not what we need oh yeah in our society right now so but tell us tell us where they come out of way

Where they can order that. While you own that old Neil Cavuto when I did a little session with him, he was trying to figure out, he said, how come all you Bible thumpers, you elect a man, a sinful guy like Donald Trump? I said, Neil, we're all sinful. I said, Trump's just one of us. I said, I bet your old Neil Cavuto might have a few sins. What are you thinking, Neil?

He said, you're talking to me? I said, yeah, I'm talking to you. You got a few sins out you want to discuss here today? And he said, it's getting hot in here. Well, no, you can buy, you can get it wherever. You know, iTunes, Amazon, Retwalker.com. Mostly I stay on Instagram. I'm not a fan of social media, but that's the one place I can kind of.

So everything at Red Walker. I've never been there. So what's it like when you do good? It's a dumpster fire. I want to share it. Maybe that's why I've never been on there. I want to share this. Jeff and I were coming up yesterday.

And we stopped at a store. We were trying to figure out where we were going to go. And, well, this girl came out. She had a fast food get up on, you know, so I figured she works at, I don't know, I don't know, I forgot what. Waterburger. Waterburger or whatever. It's big in Texas.

Well, she walked by and Jep's on the phone outside the truck because he was having some intestinal discomfort. But anyway, that's another story. And she said, uh. Thanks for, thanks for throwing that in there, Jeff. So she comes by and says, hey, how are you doing? Well, most people don't speak to me, you know, because if they don't know who I am, I'm the last person.

They're assuming the worst. And I went, hey, kept walking. And so she'd come back out later and looked a little rough around the edges, had some tattoos, and, you know, and she came back again, and I said, hey. And she went, Jace. I went, yep. And Jeff saw that. She immediately just burst into tears.

And I mean not just, like, got teary out. She started wailing. So I thought, well, here we go. I said, I don't know what's happening. So I got out. And I said, what's wrong? And she said, I prayed yesterday that God would give me a sign, and here you are. She said, I said, I'm going.

And I said, no, hang on now. And she said, no, I've been struggling with addiction. and she said, I'm trying to get my life right. And she said, I listen to y'all's podcast. And she said, this whole thing started when your dad said that prayer at the end of y'all silly show. And she said, I just thought, what am I doing? And she said, with everything that's going on this year, basically what you described. She's like, I thought I have got to get to Jesus and get my life straight.

And she said, and yesterday I was thinking, just give me a sign. Well, about this time, I guess her, you know, what's the sponsor and her husband was coming up to see her and then I thought now this is just getting weird we're about to have we're about to break out and she said well I told you she's like quit looking for signs you got Jesus which was a great thing to say yes and then I said you know what I said sometimes in life you you recognize that God set up a meeting here the divine appointment so here we are and so as soon as I said here we are I heard a scream well uh after African-American girl she works with.

She said, well, hang on. I'm your number one black fan. And she just ran at me wide open and jumped. And I, you know, I gave her a hug. And I was like, hey, all right. We're talking about Jesus. She said, all right.

And then another fellow, a co-worker. Day before yesterday, Jay. So just to finish, we just had a moment. I went through the gospel. I wrote it down. I said, I want you to keep it. I had Jesus in the diagram. and I said, the person who shared that with my dad, I said, he's with the Lord now.

I said, but I want to leave you with this because this is your direction. But so a lot of times to go with what Rets saying, you don't really think you're making a difference. You know, you're singing about Jesus and God is good, and we're talking about Jesus on a podcast. There's people listening, and the power is in who we have surrendered to, which is Jesus. And we saw it firsthand. I pulled up to the gate day before yesterday. There was a guy standing there. When I pulled up, our eyes locked on each other.

Of course, I had my hand on my AR-15, and I said, so what you got? He said, don't shoot me, Mr. Roberts. And he said, I'm a Christian. I said, I'm not going to shoot you. I said, but I just wonder what you're doing here. He said, I've been waiting for you to drive by. He almost knew your hand was on the weapon. Yeah.

I mean, I was being edgy because I didn't know what he wanted. I said, where are he from? He said, Seattle, Washington. I said, Seattle, Washington. I said, there's a lot of mischief going on up in there. He said, oh, yes, sir. He said, it's just a relief to get out of there. So he got his sister on the phone and, you know, how they do it with themselves on.

You know how they do with those cell phones? He said, you care if I run this on out of it? I don't care what you do. with it. I know we, uh, I know we're out of time, but I wanted to finish with something Rhett mentioned, because it's not cliche, uh, you know, Hebrews 12 says, since we're surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us. Let us fix our eyes on Jesus. The author and perfector of our faith, who for the joy set before him,

endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. And the reason we can know, we can rest, and we know it's going to be okay, is because Jesus has paved the way for you. So we need more information, all guys,children.org. So give you all the Stephanie, September 30th. September 30th. Is there a time? I don't know exact time.

Go over the website, you get the time. Rhett, you're always welcome to come back and sing. And Jeff, of course. That's good to have you back home. Hey, I'm going to bring you all my podcast. Yeah, what's your podcast? Front porch gospel. There you go.

But it's just going to do the same thing. Oh, let's do it. Like, y'all is still going to ask me questions. Because I run out of questions real quick on that show. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube and be sure to click that little bell to get notified about new episodes.

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