Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 143 | What Really Happened When the 'Duck Dynasty' Cameras Stopped Rolling

Episode Date: September 11, 2020

Phil, Jase, and Al reveal the true stories behind what you saw on "Duck Dynasty." Did the guys grow their beards just for TV? What's the truth behind those clean-shaven beach photos that gossip rags use to claim the Robertsons are fakes? How long did Jase have to sleep on the couch after putting mud on Missy? Does the family really know "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan? And will there ever be new episodes of "Duck Dynasty"? The behind-the-scenes Q&A starts at about 30:50. But first, Jase is pumped that teal season is here, and Phil and Al are baffled by elaborate gender reveals. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? I haven't seen any till, but there's a good water. There's good water on the dog, and there's water up if you hunt the elbow. If you hunt around there on that north side, the elbow, if you hunt on the north side, there's water. North side, you know, you're right here on the end. If there's not any on the east side, uh. It's water around there a little bit, but it's pretty narrow.

But, I mean, it's water there. So they may just. You realize this is the first podcast that we talk about duck hunting, I mean, the real deal, in almost a year. Yeah, so it's at least in the future. We can mention that in a minute if you all. We're mentioning it right now. We're rolling.

Oh, is that right? We've been talking this whole time. Well, look, listen to this. When me and Jeff. I love when we turned it on before Dad knows. Jep and I were coming back. the other day from Texas. Of course, I leave early because of traffic.

So I left like 5 o'clock. As soon as that sun, it was still the glow. We're going out in the middle of Texas somewhere. I said, look, Jep. Of course, Jep's looking for a cow or something. A huge bunch of teal. They just flew right in front of me. I mean, literally in gun range.

Good night. And I said, that's the sign. Yep. Jeff said the sign for what? I said that it's here. The passage is beginning. Yeah, I mean, we're in South Texas. So where would you rather start Saturday morning on the dog or you want to try up

overall? I thought the dog didn't have any water. Dogs have plenty of water. I had to lower the foot. I got, I refurbished that scaffold there. I refurbished it. I had to take a P-R-Done and leave it. Or just go out there, go around, come around,

the other side. I think I'm going to need to look before I make that decision. Yep. I'll take a look because there's no, there's no grass. The food, oh, that's ripe. That's right. That's right. You're all correct.

So they would just be coming in just to. That's correct. So that's why I just said, you know, it doesn't make me any difference at all. I think we got about a much chance as one as the other. Have you seen any till here? Not a teal. I'm seeing, but. Well, I saw the bunch.

That was what? Two days ago? There is supposed to be a cool down coming pretty quick. Next within a week. For our listeners, the cool down is instead of the high being 95, it's 88. That's right. I don't know if I could call that a cool down. It's going to be slightly less hot.

Fog was hanging in the bottom out here this morning. First time I've seen that, it was hanging here early, so it's cooling down. You get a little bit more. And at night, especially when you can tell. It's hot. It's not. No, I'm just telling you, when you see low-hanging fog, and it was cool right here in this bottom right here.

This thing is... I would say it was 69 this morning before daylight. Yeah. That's still pretty warm. I mean, what do you set your central air on? 75 or 75. Great, that's hot. It's always hot in their house.

And then I'm right. My bedroom, 72. but just we need to explore this now what you it's real the short expiration if you put it at 75

it won't run all day you put it on 72 it'll sit there and run for 10 hours without going off it ain't got the juice to cool it down you need a bigger unit bigger unit

a little more you know what they put in there they run out of whatever they run out of what is that No, that's the, what's it called? Freeon. Freeon.

A little friard. I thought you meant insulation. It gets a little low on frion, and then you're trying to cool it down to 702. It's just going to run all day. Kay, she did it. I said, get away from it. I'm not going to listen to that thing and run all day. The temperature don't change, and it runs 10 hours.

I don't care. She said, well, it says, what it says? Get away from it. You need to get some insulation in that. Yeah, maybe need a little more insulation. Yeah, all right. Of course, it is the inner structure is the original house that was built in 72. But are you like, man, do you feel like you need to see that first bunch of teal before you've, it's like I have to see that.

What do you have to see that? But I saw that on an interstate, and now I'm like, all right, we're here. Because usually I've gone dove hunting by now, but, you know, the hurricane all messed all that up. Yeah, nobody killing doves around here. Oh, the Arcane blew them out of here, did. I guess, I mean. I didn't even think about that. It should have.

If I was a bird. I've seen very few squirrels at that time, no cranes. Well, Phil. That wind. I literally, every morning see a group of squirrels that was in a tree. They're trying to make dew. They had a nest in the tree. The tree blew down.

And they won't just go to another tree. You know, it's in a neighborhood. So, but I mean, they're like. like they're still living in the tree on the ground. But they're bewildered. Yeah. So, I mean, I guess, you know. Well, I was driving out here today.

And I took Akelly, which is kind of a, you know, not many houses, mostly logging area and hunting area. And I would say there were probably at least a dozen to 15 trees that had obviously had come across the road because I could see where they had cut them off. Right down here where we did. I mean, it was unbelievable. Jace, there are hundreds of trees down. Yeah, I wonder about the property looked like.

I really liked that sermon I heard Sunday. The guy who filled in for you, Tommy? Tommy, yeah. He was coming out of that place where God took the foolish things of the world to shame, the wise, and think of what you were when you were called. Because he did, I do a similar thing when I had my speeches or whatever, because you look at the creation and point to the creator. and you look at an acre compared to a tree.

He's like, hey, I got, for all you intellects, all you ones that are saying this all happened by a natural process that you really can't explain. He's like, or they may ask, prove that there's a God or show me Jesus. And he's like, I got something for you. All these trees that are laying down, go make one. And you don't get an acorn. Yeah.

And you get no acre. You get no acre. Because we're looking at acorn saying, okay, some force is causing this to happen. I remember being confused in school. Fifth, sixth grade, they introduced the word photosynthesis. And I thought, no, I need to look into that. Because I was thinking, that is what's causing everything to live. Who is this photosynthesis?

It's just a word they made up. It sounds sophisticated. Let me give you a good idea. You can drive over there, that 400 acres we just bought, added on to the deal. You drive through there, and I'm looking out across there. It's old-growth timber, and I could just see tree after tree, after tree, blown down, broke down.

But look, underneath all of the upper store, the leave, just looking out across the ground. There literally are, I see the ones laying down that just blew over. There are millions of seedlings. They're about this long. They're about six to eight inches tall. Oak seedlings, millions. So much you can't see the ground.

It's solid seasoning. It's just solid. them little bitty trees about six, eight inches tall. I mean, there's a crop coming underneath that thing. They could have all blown down, and they'd all give them about 75 years. All of them would be exactly back just like the other one. But he made a good point. He said, to be honest, they can't the most highly intellectual, scientific community of the world,

most not believing in God, they can't make. anything on purpose. Thousands of... Look, they can't make anything on purpose, but they expect you to believe that it all happened by accident. Yeah, by chance. Just think about that.

It was quite a statement. One acre this big, they're all over the ground out there now. The wind, the hurricane blew them all off, blew a lot of them off. They're all on the ground. The deer having a big time. Everybody's eating.

They're laying all over the ground. ground. But if you just look at it, you say one acre turns into tons of wood, one tree, tons. You just think of one little acreing just coming up and you look at it in 75, 80 years, and you're like, it's like this. Right. I mean, just you could build a house out of it. Right.

one one acre pretty amazing i tell you this if you were a tree hugger now is that they need you because they are laying down there's a lot of hugging can you imagine if you would just been over there out there walking around when all that was happening it took two days with a bulldozer leading the way and and and i had my four-wheeler with a good chainsaw and plenty of oil and gas just cleaning up here there and yonder around there you know but it took two day two full days to even get down there to where we duck hunt is to cut in to cut your way in trees across the road i mean big trees we've all heard what it sounded like it hurt my feelings i mean it's a it's a frightening sound on just one tree falls and i mean they make a racket can you imagine all those things

just one right but it is a good point i'm not a tree hugger jace but it hurt my feelings well so many had fallen i said one time the only tree that I hugged the cross of Jesus because of who was on it. I mean, but the point is, if you just took an acre, I mean, if you just had a display as far as the evidence of God, and went around with an acorn and take people outside and look at a tree and just say, explain this. Sermon over. Experiment over. Yeah.

We just take that for granted. I know it. Just like we do when our bodies heal, nobody really explain that. You know, they'll, they'll set up with the doctors. That's one of the reasons. They patch you up, but they don't ignite the healing process. That's one of the reasons I plant trees. We planted thousands of ball cypress because the world needs more ball cypress.

But those balls cypress, we planted those with the help of the, with the Latinos that work for the government, whatever, they come over there. And they plant a lot of them. And then we plant a lot of ourselves. So they started out about eight inches. Look, the little seedlings about like that. You just can't even see them in the grass. And you just watch them. And now they're up there about 12 feet tall.

You're like, good grief. Man, this is getting prettier as the day. Each year they get prettier. It's a sight to see. Yeah, and it's one we all observe. It's just, you know, the thing that struck me about the hurricane, and I was saying about what you just said, I mean, you look at tree growth in terms of decades.

That's right. and what it does. But isn't it something how to Tommy's sermon, because his sermon was called defeat the thief. And he was kind of coming out of John 10 with the idea about the thief is here to kill and destroy. But Jesus came to give us abundant life. And so that passage.

But I thought about that. One storm came through here. And it was just a few hours when it went by here. But look at what it tore down in that few hours of destruction compared to what it takes to build that up over years. And I thought, you know, it really is a lot harder to build something than it is to destroy something. And I thought about that the week before, Mike did a thing on, showed some video of people out here cleaning up in our community. And they were smiling and neighbors helping neighbors and people got chainsaws.

And they're cutting their way and cutting it off their neighbor's house. And then I, you know, contrasted that to people going down in city streets and just destroying everything inside, just spray painting it, ruining it. And I thought, man, is that not a contrast that we're looking at about good and evil? You know, here we got a community that says, we're going to help you rebuild and build up your property. Another group says, we're going to destroy everything on our side. And I thought, that's the contrast, you know, when you look at it. The old judge that lives up where the gate is, a big tree just fell, missed the gate, got one of my polls, video surveillance, got one of those, and knocked it down. Oh, boy.

Brought his fence to the ground. And, I mean, you were not getting by there without a chance. chainsaw or a bulldozer or a track hole. So red, we went out there, you know, and cut that log up to where we could drive through to get out of here if we needed to be. But all that other stuff, the energy people come in and said, we'll remove all that off of that. It took a week to get power out here.

It took a week. And they had to rebuild everything. Let's take a quick break. But it puts it in perspective about stuff. You know, a lot of people are so obsessed with stuff. one storm should put it in perspective for you

it should better not put your hope in that but you see it I mean people are just it reminds me the story about the guy building you spend his whole life putting all the stuff in the barn

and you got to build another barn build another barn I mean where's it going to stop four months time let's see pandemic let's see wildfires hurricanes

look it's just it's just the way it is. It's always going to suck it up. You just got to suck it up and say, hey, but let's put it back together here best we can and rock on. Right. That's true. Yeah, but he had a good point because the simplicity of life is that,

you know, when you read the account in Genesis, you know, God breathing life into man's nostrils. And, I mean, when you see life on the planet, it to me is so simple. that there has to be a source for that. Because to me, and people will look at me and call that foolish thinking. They'll look at you, right now, Jay's, when you say, how did it get here? And they'll say, a large explosion.

I'm like, the big bang, yeah, the large. I said, well, what was there right before it exploded? What was there? Who lit that fuse? And they'll tell you, they said, there was nothing there. I said, so how does nothing? If nothing, nothing can't explode. Well, it was a firecracker, but every time I'm full of firecrackers,

is somebody lights the thing, and then it goes, boom. And when I was a kid, young and stupid, you know, first one I took, I lit it because I was thinking I'd have time to throw it, but I was so enamoring. It was so enamoring. You didn't do that anymore. You did that anymore, you know? And, of course, Mom was like. like, what'd you do?

And it's like, it just, you know, it's like any other kid. You know what I mean? It's like, it just went off. Yeah. Yeah. Did you see it? It's kind of like some of the boys setting off all those fireworks. Every once in a while, I noticed one of those guys gets on fire.

Oh, yeah. They're rolling. And what do you do with a kid that says that? You whip his butt because he's lying. But somebody out here saying that all this just went off. I'm like, yep. You need your butt whooped is what you need. Did you see the story from.

yesterday, I don't know it was yesterday, it was sometime this past day or two, the Labor Day weekend, that they have these things now. It's a big, turn into a big industry that to reveal the gender of your base, a woman's pregnant, and they find out it's a boregirls. They get all the family and friends together, and so they're now coming up with different ways to, you know, tell what that is. It's turned into these big reveal parties. This is a big thing going across the country. So the woman wants you to know whether it's a female or a male. Yeah.

And it will, it will, so they got one. Why would that be such a big test? I mean, it's like you can't do anything about it. I don't understand it. But, but it's a, it's a thing. So out in California, there's a couple. You know, California is a tender box. You know, you talk about light a match and burn the whole thing.

I mean, it's just ready to burn. So they do one of these pyro deals and it's supposed to shoot out either a blue, if it's a boy or pink, if it's a girl, some sort of firework. display. So they fire it off. Unfortunately, something goes wrong and they catch one of them wildfires that's still going, or it was last night. That's how the fire started. And that's how the fire started on a gender reveal party. Look, it's already burned 8,000 acres, the last report I heard on it. And now they've had 6,000 fire, you know, I mean, and of course, now they're saying this couple can go to jail. They're responsible to pay for them. It does beg the question, what were they thinking?

I mean, yeah, it just makes you. And then you're like, but I would hate to live in a place where one wrong move and you can burn the whole place down. I mean, I don't know which is worse in that situation. But it does seem kind of trivial. When all you had to do is saying, it's a girl, you know, just you could do it that way. I've seen ones where they open up a package and then the balloons come out. They're either pink or, you know, which is a lot more safe, I guess, than the power. When you said that about the fireworks, I was thinking, this poor couple just burned.

And they're still burning. Well, that's kind of sad. It's awful. It's terrible. And now they're going to probably good... I like a good fireworks, but if you like fireworks, you don't need to be living in California. Don't do it in California. Because California always burned up every year.

You know, they always have a lot of wildfires out there, but it seems to be, of course, they're all saying it's global warming, but it seems to be worse the last 20 years to me. But maybe we just didn't have 24-hour media where every time there's a fire or something. Somebody's watching it. You know what I do. I mean, you know, I don't remember it being as bad as it is, but it's, it's not good. I mean. But when I went to Yellowstone, you know, in Montana a few weeks ago, I mean, there were, the one of the things the guy kept saying is, you know, that was the fire of 2017.

There's the fire of 2014. There's 2010. He kept in, well, you all have a lot of wildfires down there. Well, remember we were in Tahoe playing golf, the same thing. I mean, the whole side of one of them mountains up there it just torched, you know? I mean, it's just, it's so dry. But the whole point is when you look around on the earth,

I mean, you start talking about disease, fires, earthquakes. I mean, I would look, if there was the slimmest chance that there was an actual designer and a being that was the author of life, wouldn't you at least be open-minded enough to say, this place is dangerous. It's combustible. You got hurricanes coming up and typhoons and storms and fires and the bottom line is we're perishable.

Yep. Look, I would, I would, to me it would be more intelligent to look for a way around all that. I mean, to me that's not foolish at all. They're like, oh, that's simple-minded, foolish thinking. when he's right when you scrape everything away just make a tree you do like everybody else

you throw it in the ground you can call it some big fancy photosynthesis word and then you get back out of the way and guess what something makes it grow that you can't explain

you can't do it and you can't hardly even stop it it's amazing you know one of the things that when we went to film for that episode that Hawaii episode for Duttony we stayed on the big island

and I just marveled it was almost like this little creation petri dish because we're on that big rock and it's the biggest island out of the Hawaiian chain but on one end of it you got you're close

that the mantle there's just been cracked so you got lava just flowing out of the ground and into the ocean you saw it from a helicopter right and I mean it's incredible that's on one end of the rock well then you go over a little bit this way, and remember we went up into those two mountainous areas, it was like we were in Scotland. Yeah.

It was cold. We had to buy jackets. That's when we went hogging. We actually, that was the unsaid footage. And it was lush green. Oh, it just was beautiful. I mean, and at the bottom, it was like a prairie. It was like seven inches, seven inches of rain a year.

Right. And up there was like 300 or something. That's what I'm saying. It is the wettest place. Like Louisiana is number two for rainfall. And that island in Hawaii or the back. side of it was number one. You don't say, is it going to rain?

You say, remember that? He said, when's he going to stop rain? That was old when Steve Martin was the preacher. I don't forget the name of that movie. Somebody out there saying it right now. It's actually a pretty good movie. That's pretty good. Leap of Faith.

Yeah. And, you know, one month a year, they ski on those two mountains. There's enough, it's high enough up where they get actually some snow. Nobody knows you can ski in a way. Oh, I know that. Oh, yeah. But when you look at that, I just thought about that's probably one of the last ones to come up out of the water. You know, we're talking, you know, however God did it.

But you still can see the creation process because you've got all these different climates. What was it, seven different climates on the island? So when I look at that, I'm thinking, man, what kind of being came up with an idea that this molten lava comes up out of the water and forms this rock that then all of a sudden starts growing all this great stuff? on it and you can ski on it or you can go look at the live on the other end? Well, the Earth's core, over millions of years, heated to a point where it created a duel. You know, that'll give you an explanation. I'm like, yeah, who started the fire? Let's start with the ground.

You have a fire, you know, like the sun. Who started it? well actually i mean you just ask people who are smart those simple questions and just watch watch them squirm it just it ain't it ain't there that there's not a plausible explanation uh let's take another break and to your point when we're talking about california minute ago because now boy they're always looking these people start fires but i think i read the other day 92% of all fires while fires started in any of those western states are lightning, which has nothing to do with us. I mean, it's dry ground, it's lightning, it starts a fire.

So we get to think of sometimes we're bigger than we are in this thing, like you said, but it's really not. I mean, that's something we are to do. It's a natural occurrence. Right. No, let's stop lightning. Let's figure out a way to stop that because it kills people. Not many, but I mean, it does.

It starts fires. Let's just stop it. Yeah, we could do that. There'll be some group that think they can. Right behind global warming, stop lighting. And then that's fix the earthquakes. And then I'd say get tornadoes. That doesn't do anybody any good.

Fix it. Let's fix it. So anyway. Well, speaking of Duck Dynasty, so we know we got a lot of the fans of unashamed because I read so many emails. This last couple of weeks, I've been a little hamster in the wheel trying to return emails, which, by the way, my new email is Al at Restoration Productions. dot net so send your podcast to that because i got a little help they need to put up on those little graphics yeah yeah he's going to put one up on but some people just listen to the show so well what i

what i realize is is from this going back through and trying to answer emails i'm about i'm up to about a month behind is that so many new people are listening to the podcast that they're just now hearing when i gave out my other email three months ago because you know say we have a lot of new We're in a time more. But one thing I want to talk about was that I know from every time I read something, one is most of you're saying that it's making a huge impact on your life, the podcast. We're grateful for that. Because we're unashamed about Jesus.

We're not ashamed about Jesus. We're willing to talk about it. We're talking about the Bible. As dad mentioned last time on the podcast, a lot of you are coming to get baptized here, which is fine with us. Again, send me an email. I'll connect you to the right people. We can make that happen.

if you want to come here to get baptized. But get to know Jesus in the meantime. That's right. Make sure. If you don't know Jesus, you're just getting wet. You can do that anywhere. I make sure they understand. I wasn't.

Chastising you. I was just saying, you know, just remember what it's all about. This is not taking a swim. Immortality is riding on this on how you feel about Jesus Christ. So we go through the whole thing, make sure the under. But it's not complex. So we've got three or four different locations that we meet at in town. Dad and mine work at a place over in Monroe, a church plant.

Jason and I are, when we're in town, we're at WFR proper. So we'll let you know all that information if you want to get baptized. But a lot of you have said that your first connection to the family was obviously through the show. A lot of you were huge fans of the show. You realize the podcast is just an extension of who we are. I mean, the show was really someone else's idea, but it was about our family. And it was funny, and we did. And it was attitude and embellished.

I mean, to be honest, you know, what's frustrating for me is that I go do events. Of course, the coronavirus has limited those, but I'm, you know, they're cranking back up. And, you know, I'm, I talk about Jesus, number one. I talk about our family because, you know, loving God, loving people. I talk about the duck calls because a lot of people like, well, how do that happen? I usually do a lot of humor around the duck calls. Where this question comes from? How long did Jace have to sleep on the couch for putting mud on Missy because she wore perfume?

I said, well, I don't even know what you're talking about. But look, so I'll talk about those three things and then they'll do a Q&A. Well, here's what's puzzling. I don't really talk about Duck Dynasty, but all the things. The questions are about the show. They're like, what was the question you just have? The question is, how long did Jace have to sleep on the couch for putting mud on Missy because she wore perfume? I don't remember that episode.

I do. So that episode was when you and Willie took Missy and Corey deer hunting inside Stan. And I guess I don't remember that. happening but I guess you push to put mud on her face or something. I've done that many times. So I guess in the episode you were in trouble. But face pain on her. Yeah. So I believe the truth is I didn't sleep on the couch. So that must have been a temporary, you got to realize in marriage, sometimes you say things that you don't mean in the heat of the moment. So she probably said, you're sleeping on the couch. But guess what? She didn't follow through with that.

So here's a question for you. So I got some questions. But I mean, are we going to do... Yeah, we're going to do some questions. So these are, a lot of you send me questions. And so we selected a few of them here. We'll do a few of these just because I know people ask a lot of questions about the show. And we appreciate that you watch the show.

And by the way, you know the show is still popular because Fox Nation, which is Fox News, just went and bought the show and now is running it on their streaming. So there's a lot of people still connecting to it. So we get that as a new general. Okay. Here's one for you, Dad. Was the judge's pond really owned by a judge? Then and now.

Yeah, it is. Yeah, tell us about that. So is he a second generation owner? His dad was a judge. Now he's a judge, but he owned a property adjacent to our property. Yeah. So I'd know when I was a teenager, he chased me on several occasions. I was going to say.

But he doesn't know that was me, but I know that was him. Now, was this the judge now or the older judge? because we were afraid. Well, that's his daddy. Yeah, we were, I was afraid of the dad. You're going back to the judge's dad. Well, the judge's dad chased me all over the two properties. He's a great guy.

Because his pond, look. But we used to go fishing. Yeah, and then we go fishing. One day, 75 vehicles came down the road going into my house. And when they all pulled up out in the yard, and this was, you know, the traffic was getting out of hand during the Duck Dynasty. thing. Well, I go up there and I tell the judge, I said, judge, I said, I'm going to have to put up a gate here. I said, now, we've got two choices. I can put it on my property line and you'll be on the outside of the gate. Or I can put it on your property line over here and you'll be inside

the gate. I said, but it's your call. I don't care what you, what you want to do. So you want to be inside the gate I'm going to put up? Or do you want to be outside? outside of the gate he said feel put me inside the gate he's inside of the gate i said i said consider it done so i put the gate so he's inside of the gate and that that knocked out because we want people to come we have a place they can come if they just want to we want to talk it over we convert people you're not going to hear some stories about you're going to hear the story of jesus and if you want me to baptize you i'll do it but back in the day before before Doug Dynasty, I could just people

take them to the river, take them to the river, take them to the river. But now, there's there was so much traffic, I have to curtail it because I have to have some semblance of a life. We had that some structure. Yeah. Because we still want to do it, but we want to do it where it's not necessarily. You got to remember, I mean, it's just a,

there's got to mirrors a lot of people and there's just, there's just us. That's right. Let's take another break. So we're asking that question. Yeah, we're asking that. Here's one for you guys. Because this was from one of my favorite episodes.

Unlike Phil, I haven't seen these questions. Does the family personally know Hacksaw Jim Duggan? Well, yes. And tell how that had. We didn't know him before the episode personally. Well, right. I mean, I've forgotten the details, but I mean, he was. So just to set it up, Jason and I and Willie loved wrestling, Mid-South Wrestling.

That, look, when my childhood was filled with wrestling, and some of the greatest moves that I ever did, you were a witness to someone, I performed on one willy. Because you look at the size of him, you're thinking, how in the world did you pull those moves off? It's called leverage. A lot of wrestling is about leverage. So what we would do, so we watched Mid-South Wrestling,

and Hacksaw Jim Duggan has to be our all-time favorite. He was patriotic, he got that two-by-four. I mean, he was just a redneck, you know. But we would put a quilt down, which was our ring in the living room on Saturday night. And then we would watch wrestling. And then as soon as wrestling was over, then we would do some of the things. You'd start wrestling. We started wrestling.

We started to do the moves. We just tried. I broke the bone. We had the best. Yeah, the problem was we were breaking bones. It's kind of like Duck Dynasty. Our show was based on true stories. I know I'm your father.

is seated here but I never even paid any attention to that. I think you're already in the bad by the time all this. Which shows you our house. You know what? One of the questions I get asked

at these events that I never have an answer to is a lot of people, usually women, they'll say, where were your parents when I'll tell a story about what?

And I said, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't remember. Now you call me dad. Right. Jace calls me Phil. Yes, that was Willie.

And a lot of people say, and Willie calls me Phil. We get that question a lot. I think that's the number one question. The youngest one calls me dad. You call me dad. But the two in the middle call me Phil. Like, hey, how are you doing? Feel pretty good.

Well, a lot of people think it's disrespectful. Well, that is that a sign of disrespect? Yeah. I said, not to me. Right. I said, you know, my name is Phil. So tell them. So whether it's dad or Phil, you say, what's a dip?

Yeah, I don't know. The number one answer was that since the business was tied to the personal phone, you wouldn't say, hang on, let me get my dad. Because they would say, I'd like to speak to Phil Robertson. I'm like, Daddy, come here. I would say, hold on for a second. They were trying to be professional. Phil line one.

That explains you. We did do that a lot. And then we just, it just kind of became. I never thought about it to someone ask me about it and said, but are they disrespecting you, the two middle ones? And I'm like, no. Well, it's probably true because I do notice, since I do a lot of business for you and with you, with your books and all that, that if I'm talking with a publicist about you, I may say,

I would say Phil probably. We'll get Phil to do it. See what I'm saying? In a business world, I tend to even do that now myself. But if it's just me talking about you, I would usually say that. You know what's funny is a lot of people. that didn't like our show or us they were like these people are fakes we have found pictures of them clean shaving on a beach i'm like we posted those moron because what now the only thing dishonest is the exact opposite what we would do every year since we were the

salesman and the manufacturers of the duck dolls we would all shave and this is the khakis the post dad era when you And Willie kind of took it right. Yeah, when we were selling the duck calls and go to shows. And you said, why did you do that? Why not be yourself? Because when we all look like we normally do, bearded and scragly, no one would stop at our booth. And so if you would wear nicer clothes and shave, then they would stop at your booth. Talk about these characters who you found who make the duck calls, which is us, but they don't really.

Because the beards weren't really branded. It was just, you're talking about. to sell duck calls. I remember being in a meeting. I think it was Cabela's. I was in a meeting. All the, you know, Cabela was a pretty big, big deal. I'm trying to sell them the duck calls.

And one of the women said, I mean, where did you find these guys? And I, because she was looking at the cover of one of our videos, of which I was on. But that was the bearded version. And I wanted to say, that's actually me. But I just couldn't do it because I thought, I'll just give in to the next. narrative and I want to eat steak instead of, you know. So I'm trying to get you to buy our duck call. So that was the only thing that we really did coming up that was really not us.

Because I remember I thought that I'm trying to sell the duck calls and I can't get my foot in the door with the bearded look, which is how I really was. Right. So that's part of that whole deal. And my old take on it was, you don't have to worry about talking to if they want them, they're call us. You know, they said, it's really not. You got to get out of it. Dad was not really a marketer or network. Terrible.

To your credit, you did say. I've never been a businessman or a promoter type. But you said if God wants this to happen, and it was kind of like, you know, when we had our guest wrecks, I mean, it doesn't mean you're going to be lazy. When we was working our butts off, but you were kind of like, if God wants this to happen, it'll happen. But, Dad, you also built a foundation of credibility because you were trying to make calls. that sounded exactly like what they were supposed to call. And so your focus was much more on that than on the trying to make it a business.

And back then, marketing wasn't really the driving force. I mean, you wasn't sitting around talking about your brain. Jayce did end up as the better salesman. He could go talk to the Walmart buyers and they'd have a big time. Well, Jay's had the mix of both. I mean, he had enough of the credibility and ability to use it. But then also was kind of a bridge. Jay's for one time went to meet with Walmart.

We're all down here saying, boy, you know, I hope it goes well. Well, Ms. Kay was asking about him. Well, he comes back. We said, Jay's had, what, what, how big is the order? Jay said, nope, no order. He said, I walked away from the table. I said, you did what? He said, I walked away from the table.

He said, he'll come around. He said, but he's trying too hard to bargain on that price. And he said, so I'm on. Which was one of the worst decisions I ever made with that. telling you the actual truth. Because after that, I never did again. And, you know, we'd come back and Kay would call, well, how's the big order?

You know, how did it go? I was, oh, went fantastic. I hung up, and Missy's like, you didn't tell them that you got up and walked out, and he said, I will never buy your job calls as long as I left. I left that part out. But it was just in negotiations,

there was a price. Jace was quite the negotiator. Well, there was a price that it's not right. rocket science. There was a price that I thought, because I'm looking at all the numbers, y'all are not. This is not worth it. We cannot survive and make a comfortable living on this price. So it's just out of the question. And Walmart's whole model is to take it down to the The Walmart buyer ran up on Jace a few years later and he said, I was just bluffing. He said, I told you said, I don't watch him old DVDs, Doug. He said, I watched Steve Warren. But he said, I didn't

want jays to think you know okay he said they trained us to do that yeah he's like we had to put you to the test because they know if you pass i'm not caving in i have the number and so that's the number but that's why i was saying that that's why the foundation of all this every business model if you got a product you need to be able to have people that want that product if you a lot of this stuff now is built totally on just smoke and mirrors yeah they're marketing instead of demand That's right. They're marketing and branding things that aren't worth of crap. But I will say this, Al, I was street smart.

But like Willie was more, he did, I mean, when he took over, it was way better. Because he did the same things. He just didn't, he wasn't so barbaric in his approach. And he was out, and Willie's one of his, one of his greatest gifts is being able to get in with a group of people and build a bridge. He's really, really good at it. And so that helped us kind of work, though. Let's take one last break. So here's a pretty good one.

Oh, did we finish with Haxall Jim Dog? We never finished that. Well, he was on. It's foggy. So here's the deal. So we had the wrestling, and they did a surprise reveal. We didn't know he was going to be on the episode. Oh, no, I didn't know.

A big truck backed up, and you had a couple of wrestlers, which were local guys. They were professional wrestlers, but they were from this area. And then all of a sudden you have, you know, Hax-O Jim Duggan comes out. Of course, it was funny. They were the only wrestlers I've ever actually seen in person. Yeah, and look, it was cold. No, let me give you the backstory.

There was a few episodes that were filmed from a distance, and that was one of them. None of us knew they were coming, because we were doing that for Mia. Right, it's the Mia. And we told them, because they would interview us during the week, like what y'all got going, like, we're going to do this.

You're welcome to film it. but and what I mean from a distance is some things we you know you would film and then that we would have to film it again because in the camera world they get close-ups and wide and so it is you're kind of you've already filmed it but they have to get their shots on that particular deal it's a one they shot it one time they got it it was an event all of our family all the robertson family was on the episode all your siblings yeah I think only judy was the only one that wasn't still alive. And that was cool to us because all our cousins got to be on it.

But it was brutally cold, and the wrestlers had these little tights on and no shirt. And I mean, it is cold. It's one that was losing. It's about 32 with about an 18, 20-mile-hour northwest wind. Both days we filmed, brutal. And I just remember being cold the whole time we filmed. These guys come out, and one of them, the local wrestlers came out, and Willie said, dude, I don't want to, you know, sound too personal.

but right now your nipples could cut glass. Yeah, I remember that. We all laugh. Well, once again, saying what everyone's thinking. Because I was like, it's one thing about it, we're all cold. These guys don't have a shirt on. So Haxow comes out. They do some wrestling.

We're going crazy because we didn't know they were bringing him on the show. And he was literally our childhood favorite. And, of course, Haxal, this has been, you know, 25 years ago. So he was a little saggy. You know, he had just some regular shorts on. But you know what they got was awesome. was awesome and we met him and so here's what i wanted to tell about it which is why i want to ask this question so that was the first day of film and the second day they came back out and i think

shot one more scene wrestling scene and then they wanted to do a big picture with these guys before with the with all of us and we couldn't find hacksaw we couldn't find dad and so i said i'll go up usually they send some p i said i'll go i'll go i'll go live where so i went up to the house so dad's sitting in the the recliner hacksaw jim dougan is is down on his just sitting down on the floor and there's a, you know, your kick thing is up on your chair and you've got your Bible laid out. And I just remember walking in, it was just such a surreal thing because I thought, Hacksaw Jim Duggan is sitting on the floor where we used to watch him and redo all his moves and you were just sharing Jesus with him, which he was already a believer,

but you were just making sure, you know, and y'all were having a discussion. So I turned around and went back out and I said, hey, they're, they got a thing going on. We'll do that in just a few minutes. I mean, I wanted that to play itself out. But I just thought that was a really surreal. You know, every story you could tell about guests like that. I mean, you could say the same thing was Zizi Top. We were with them numerous times. And they wanted to be a part of the show as much as we wanted them to be a part of it.

And we got to know them and we had the same conversations. Right. We hung out. I mean, I think many times that we've listened to their music, I was thinking, you know, going down the road, me, you and Willie, we love Zizi Top. And then later, who would ever know 20 years later, we'd all be doing a show. Well, I look back on those were some of the moments I did love about the show as we were just hanging out. Talking about really what you went, just life and, you know, goofing off.

But I'm sure behind the scenes, whoever was making those decisions about getting people lined up, I'm sure it was chaos and all. But from our perspective, it was just enjoying relationships. I think you think it's, you know, people think it's a bigger deal, and we're just, everybody's just normal human beings when you, right. When you peel everything back. And we like their music.

They like how they live life. It was actually a perfect match. And that was a race car driver as a boyer. Oh, yeah. He was on an episode. He was a great guy. I mean, we just had a lot of fun every time there was the guests were involved. Yeah.

It's kind of like it is with the podcast. I love when we have somebody on here. It just kind of gives you another view of other people's world. Well, I will say this, we're about out of time. I think as I started with this, all the stuff that happened on the show and the fun we had doing it and the fun the audience had because so many people, I get so many emails to talk about, I was going through the worst time. I just got one this week.

They had a kid in the hospital, and, you know, it was just a tough time for them. But the show was like a... was like a something they could escape. The two short nose here. The last question, do you miss filming the show? No. Will you ever reprise the show? No.

What do you have to say about that, Jay? That's me. We may be on other shows. I mean, you can probably tell. We get asked so many questions about the show. I don't really, this is not one of my favorite things to do. but I realized that we get them so much people want to know. And so we don't mind every once while answering your questions.

Well, I tell you the impact I had that. So I met a girl in Iowa, and we were signing books, and she came to me, she was a college-age girl. And she said, I just want to tell you what Dynasty meant to me. All my teenage years, so her whole high school career, freshman to senior, was the run of the show. And she said, we got together every Wednesday. night after church with all my closest friends and watched the show. And when she was telling me

this story, it hit me. I thought her whole childhood, or I mean her old like teenage years, she's going to connect to our show. She'll never forget that. The impact that it was her friends. It was her social event of her life. And so when I saw that, I thought, man, there's a lot of people out there that have been impacted more than we know. Well, but I will say this. Whenever this comes up, I say the same thing because I believe it 100%. What was refreshing is that Hollywood does not represent Middle America shows and the thing, our lifestyle. And so we finally had something,

and we all know it kind of got on air by accident, because they weren't, they didn't want us just to be ourselves and represent Middle America. I think the ideal was kind of to make fun of us a little bit. I think that's where it started. I don't think the show could, I don't think the show would ever air today. Like, I think now with this polarized climate, we couldn't even get on there. So what happened was, and I'll just tell you, in the normal making of a show, the talent is threatened.

They call us the talent, and they're threatened monetarily. But, you know, they hadn't met our family. It's like, oh, no, we don't do that. I said so many things about spiritual matters when they would give us those interviews uptown. when we drive up there, but they never run them. They never ran them. Well, that's me. People always ask.

I just didn't like the idea. I wanted to get some, get the gospel out there. But here's where God gets the last. All we got away with was a prayer. But here's where God gets the last laugh. But don't lock the power of prayer. That's right. Because because of that happening in D'ODA, even though they never aired it,

that's what created this vehicle for us to be able to, because these are the same folks that are watching. Well, everybody out run up on, they say the same thing. They say you're way more skinny than you looked on TV because TV makes it look bigger. And you're way more serious. And I'm like, well, every time I was serious or had a spiritual conversation, I knew that wasn't going to make it. Because the power of editing, you know, I, I goof off some.

It just sort of grated on me that I wanted to tell people about Jesus. It's all part of the plan. Not me because I think what happened is God allowed that to be a success, so that later we would have avenues like this to tell what we really believe. And look, we do have a good time because we're not thin-skinned, which in our culture, I think, is a breath of fresh air. But really it's because we all truly believe that we're forgiven and that we're going to heaven, we're going to live forever.

So we don't take ourselves that seriously. And when you do that, a lot of good times come out of that. I mean, you make fun of each other. all the way. I mean, if I didn't, couldn't make fun of Willie, I wouldn't even know her relationship or him or him, me. And guess what? I can take it.

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