Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 149 | Phil's Mom Was on 'Price Is Right,' the Robertsons' Platinum Album & Other Surreal Stories

Episode Date: September 21, 2020

Al hosts a quarantine survival party that gets the guys reminiscing about some of their family's most surreal moments, including Phil's mom dominating on "The Price Is Right," the family recording an album that went platinum, and the "Duck Commander Musical." Phil highlights the scariest thing he's ever seen in the Bible, and the guys talk about hateful and belligerent religious folks, the wrong way to reach people, and the night before Jesus was arrested. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? This past weekend, we had a, I called it a corona quarantine survival party at my house because you had the corona run through. You know, my son got it, Reed, but he didn't even know. I didn't know that. I hadn't heard that. Yeah, yeah, you got it. But he's like, you know, not much happened.

But what's weird is now he has to quarantine for 14 days. Well, his wife, who works at a hospital, which you think, well, that's where he got it. Well, she hasn't got it. And Reed said, trust me, if you can transmit it, she should have it. So I figured what that meant. He's like, she has no signs. So anyway, so we got everybody together. Everybody had to go there two weeks.

Tony and Phyllis. Tony and Philis stayed at our house. and then I got it sanitized and came home. I stayed at the beach two weeks. So we asked to, well, we're going to have a party because we survived this thing. We need to get back together. So Jay smoked us a tenderloin, which was delicious,

and we had a great time. So Phyllis and Tony asked us about Granny, your mom, being on the Price is Right if we still had that recording of her being on the Price is Right. and so Anna said, yeah, I got it on DVD. So we watched it. You know, that was our... How hard did you laugh?

Oh, my goodness. And I'd forgotten how crazy our Uncle Harold was. He had an LSU shirt on there. I don't know if you remember this. And he's running around on the stage. He's going, LSU, because they had all these college kids there, you know. It was college kid day. Yeah, exactly.

And there's our granny who was like 65. Oh, no. She was 84. Oh, 84. She was 84. Had a big hat. Oh, well, that was so... Well, here's what's interesting.

She halfway raised me, and while we were down here getting everything sorted, and they lived right beside us, and I couldn't even understand her. She was so country on the prices, right? I'm like, running back, what she said? It was so bad. And I had forgotten how bad it was compared to everybody else. She said, 1,200, Bob. There was a whole up a little jar of pickles, you know.

How much is that? And Ma would say $2 and $79 and bingo. That's what it was. I said, Ma, how did you know what all those little things cost? Well, because all she did every morning was watching the price is right. She said, I've been watching the price is right. Here was what was interesting. So this is way back.

She won cars and... Well, she won both showcases, which is very rare. And we figured it out it was, I think it was 1999. I can't remember exactly. It was like $40,000 and stuff. Well, yeah, it was a lot. So, but here's what happens. So she gets called down early on the first half of the show,

if you're familiar with the price is right. You get three up on the first half and three up on the second half. Well, she goes all the way through, and they kept scalding her because she would have good bids, but they go $1. If they go $1 over, there's no way. You can't go over. That's right.

So she was just getting scalded, and it was so funny because later when we were talking to Granny about it, I said, what about that little, there was some guy had a shirt that he had had since he was a kid that had prices, right? and he was just crazy acting. I said, what about that kid? What was the story with him?

She said, oh, he was so obnoxious and despisable. And then she said, and then the other one just kept over a bit. But, you know, she was just like, she was serious. So she finally gets up on the last one, the guy scalded another guy with the $1 over. So she wins it to get on stage. And then, like you said, she just blitzed it. I mean, like, she played the mountain climbing game. Yeah, she didn't just win.

She dominated. It was a dominating performance, which. We didn't say this, but she called her a shot back here. She called Harold because she knew he was the only one crazy enough to actually go along with this plan. She said, come get me, because I'm going to go win the price is right. I'm not going to go beyond the price right. I'm going to go win it.

She went Babe Ruth. And he's like, okay, what time you may pick you up? You know. So she wanted to. Well, Harold had a lot in common with Si, but he was just a more sophisticated on the outside, but just as crazy. A sophisticated Silas. Yeah. That's right. That's what he was. And he's passed away now so we can talk about him. But he took her. He and Mary, my cousin, Jean, who lives out in California now, and they took her, and she blitzed it. She won a trip to Fort Lauderdale during spring break, which she didn't take because you'd have to fly back to L.A. She won two cars.

It's kind of funny when the 84-year-old woman goes to spring break. She won quite a bit of cash. She won two cars. She won money, and then she won a full set of, like a, refrigerator stove like a full kitchen you know what i noticed too al is when the tax ban showed up you know when you think only you watch these games show no this that's what's really sad it's not something you think about because you're like oh they won 50 000 they're rich now yeah like a week later there's oh she had to sell one of the two cars to pay for the taxes on all the stuff she won yeah which i mean just think about how ridiculous this is an 84 year old woman lifelong dream I mean, it really makes me mad. At least I can say my mother, she did win outright the price of right.

So that's what got me to think. And I thought, when I look back at the Robertson fans, some of the things, the most surreal things we've experienced. I mean, like, that's just random. That was before we ever, we had a TV show, but I thought about it. She should have got taking the spring break trip with all the kids, and that would have been the first TV show in our family. That's right. that would have been must-see TV. With her going around,

because my grandma is like one of her sons, I won't mention that has no sensor or filter. He will say whatever it comes to his mind. I don't want to say who it is because I want to embarrass it. But whatever she's thinking, she said it. She did. And she didn't hold back. When she was talking about my little friends, you know, Bill Phillips,

she said, oh, he's the most repulsive person I've ever met. And she said to his face, get that hat off you. obnoxious part. Well, they'd come in because she would always

fix a plate for a stranger, which was awesome. That was great. But then when the stranger would come in, like W.E.,

she'd be like, get that hat off where I knock it off. He's like, you know what's funny is Jay. So everybody has a,

like our cousins, especially like the dashers and all them, the people that just were around Granny a couple times a year,

they come in for, you know, Thanksgiving or Christmas, they just thought she was mean, they still say that. They don't, they never got close to it. Well, we lived with her.

Yeah, if you knew her, it's just the way it was. It's just the way it was. It was just the- That's why we're not the most compassionate people in the world by nature. That's right. Because we learned it from her granny. Well, yeah, she's a tough woman. She was.

But so Phyllis was just watching it and thinking, this is so, because think about it, she doesn't know, she never had a chance to know Granny. And she's sitting there the whole time saying, I can't believe this is my, my grandmother. You know, she's watching her. And of course, you know, she just saw that one slice over. Ball made it to 96. 96.

Yeah. But, Jace, I thought about you being on the, you and Missy and Willie and Corey presenting at the CMA. I mean, I just, I think about some of the crazy things that have happened. We have a Christmas album that went platinum. And we, you know, all said, people introduce me on some of these speaking deals, and they're like, had an album that went platinum. But people are looking around like, what? He must have misspoke.

That's right. They, yeah. And then we had a- Somebody called me and said, we're going to do an album. I said, what kind of album? They said, you know, a singing album. I said, Phil, that was me. Yeah.

I said, y'all have gone completely nuts. We're going back to the big studio. I mean, and I find myself singing with George Strait. who I did. I've never met him, but they had me talking to George Strait. They had pictures of me standing with George Strait. You know why? I've never seen George Strait.

You know why? Because George Strait liked you. That's right. They went, look, Willie and Corey. By the way, unashamed audience, you need to go find it. What's it called? Duck the Halls? Duck the Hall.

You need to find you this Christmas CD. It's amazing. You watch it access TV on how long it took these rock and roll groups to do an album. was when they call about the album I'm not kidding two weeks later I've never I can't even care a tune

in a bucket so I get up there but Phil you mainly just talk to it and I asked the old ramrod from Nashville and I said do you actually think getting this bunch of rednecks together you think you're going to sell

anything he said he'd go platinum I said Buddy Cannon I said hey buddy buddy has He said platinum. What exactly?

He said, that's a high. Unless you sell a million copies of it. I thought it was a big joke, but that old guy was dead serious, and I looked up, and it did go platinum. And it's really, I'm serious. It's really good. I was shocked at how good it is. Well, what Buddy said on first day, I mean, because we made a lot of connections,

because Willie, you know, through Buck Commander, and a lot of his friends are country music singers. And, you know, there's jokes about it. They're like, you know, in the country music, world if you can sing great but it's optional let's face it tell me about being honest i mean it's more about branding who you are but buddy on the first day because my wife you know everybody knows missy she's she can sing she can sing and uh and my son really the only ones that can sing is your wing well my son read i mean he can sing the phone book just give it to him and look out and so when he got up we got up there and i was like i was kind of like you because willie and missy

Basically, Willie's like, I'll take care of the business side of it. Y'all take care of the singing side. So Missy and Buddy worked together. They came up with the songs. And Missy's a bull. There's a bulldog about it, too. But I said, buddy, you actually think this will work? And he's like, oh, y'all actually have some talent.

He's like, this is going to be awesome. So I was thinking, really? And guess what? To this day, we still sell a tall. hunt with no marketing or they're even talking about. I come if that's true, why don't I get a check there once a while? You got, here's what happened. Because I noticed, you know, where's my check?

What Jay said, we're going to take care of the business side. I'm like, I kept waiting for the big check from the platinum record. I never saw it. Well, Kay got it. I was there just for. No, here's what happened. Everyone who participated. Does there any money in this?

No, you got to sell a million copies. you might make a little like you got the business. I think you got the business. I think you got the business end of the business. This was not planned. No, no, you made something. Everybody who participated in the album got a check. You had a check.

So Kay got that check and you never, you received payment for your involvement. But the four owners of the company, Missy, Jace, Willie. That's where the big bucks went. Well, we took the risk. We put the money in it. I never knew that this has turned out to be quite the revealing episode.

I would love to take credit for that being my idea, but Willie said, boy, you loaded now, y'all sold a platinum record. I'm like, they ain't on money. Well, there was some money somewhere, but it didn't come out of your way. Well, you got paid. You just, your wife spent it. Yeah, we probably spent that quick. Let's take a break.

So my point is, also another surreal moment was we all flew to, Las Vegas and had a musical with Broadway actors and singers that was actually incredible. Wouldn't you say that day? I mean, I thought it was good, but it lasted about a week. About a month. Actually, about a month. Nobody, it's the best musical nobody ever saw. Boy, here's what I learned about that.

It's because I've been to a bunch of musicals because my wife, she's a musical person. Yeah. Now, did I enjoy them? No. The only one I liked was the, one about us. Well, that was the death nail. Because all these ones I didn't like,

they're famous. That's the ones everybody goes to. This is hollowed grounds. They call $100 just to go see. Somehow we got blackball on that one. No, we didn't get blackballed. It's like if you make something that redneck type people like, it's not fit for the musical.

But dad is right. There was an element. There was an element because. I really don't. It's not that crowd. They don't... No, but I just, from going behind the scenes, because Dad had had some dust-ups with certain communities

that are very involved in musicals. I don't believe that. I think that's why we... Why would they send us to Vegas? I mean, we weren't a Vegas show. Who goes to musicals? Do you go to musicals? I go to musicals when I go to New York.

I enjoy music. No. Your exception to the road. Phil would never... I'm not going to let my wife. and because like my wife who likes musical she she looked at it and said it's too shallow but what i liked about it what i liked about the storyline was basically it was course it was it was told from willy and cori's perspective of their book which is kind of how they met and so they were kind of the

the core story was their love story but then they had a great thing with sigh which was hilarious this it was called ladies man was the name of the song and this actor singer that played him was He looked a lot like him. He was great. And then, but the... Because that's true. People don't realize that people, there's women out there who are in love with Sai.

That's right. He's married. Right. And I see it every time I go on a trip with Sight. There are women who literally scream and horror and cry. That is scary. But true. I can't figure it out.

But true. I think all of this, what you said, though, because to me, God chose a bunch of people that look like us. and said, oh, I'm going to share Jesus through them. So all these opportunities came. And this is my opinion on what happened to try to explain. Because it's not like we did it. Right.

I mean, it all just, I mean, like my grandma said, I'm going to go on the prices, right. That's got to be the luckiest thing. If you just looked at it from people's perspective, how, you know, one, you got to get picked. You drive out there. Then you got to get up. Then she won.

Then she won both. I mean, it's just like. That's the luckiest thing I've ever seen while. That's what got me thinking about it. And then on the musical, Dad, the core part of the gripping, because they're doing acting and seeing, you know, musicals have a story. Well, they show the scene, they have a scene where basically you come to your senses. Like, you know, they showed that.

That was part of the thing. You had a Bible and, you know, they're hamming it up. And you met the guy that played you. Remember we flew somewhere with him? I don't remember. Well, and so, and he was pretty good. but so he just throws the bow. He's like, I'm not, I'm not doing anything with this God.

You know, just, it was really, like, watching the acting was amazing. So they were taking basically your life before you were a Christian and condensing it into that one seam. And then finally, you basically dropped to your knees. And you're just like, I've got to change my life. And then you even say, the one-play of mom is like, will you forgive me? And she said, yes. I mean, we're all in tears.

Like, you know, it was a game. That's why I liked it. But I think that's why it didn't work. Well, maybe so. They've talked about trying to revive it at some point. I think Willie's trying to get ownership of it. Maybe because in Branson or someplace, I thought it probably worked. Like, you know, it was a Broadway level.

If you make a redneck musical, find some rednecks. Find some rednecks who will watch it. Yep. You know, you go to Vegas. Well, people go to Vegas to. We may not be. We may be outside the circle of the musical crowd. Do you think?

But we sold, we platinum with the country music is our audience. You see what I mean? That's this people hunt and fish. It's a little different. I think they could rework it in a Branson audience and it could work. As long as I don't have to be in it. I do. I have some special friendships with some people that worked on that musical.

Because you know what really was shocking about meeting them is when we met all the characters, who played it, of course, they had been in. Oh, all kinds of stuff. What's the one? Wicked. One of them that played Corey is in Wicked right now. Yeah, that's right. We just saw her name.

I can't remember. Well, I had a brain of crime. But she's awesome. She's a great person. And look, every time my wife goes to New York, they either go eat lunch with each other. They have a great friendship. But what's weird is the first time I met them, when we walked into Willie's old house, they were all in there.

and they sang some of the songs, A cappella. And I was like, well, I'll tell you one thing. They can sing. It was moving. Oh, these people were hair standing up on the back of your neck, just their voices. So the one that, so the one that played Lisa,

and this is an amazing story. So we met him, we met him in Vegas this first night, all the ones that played us. And there was, you know, the guy that played me and the guy that played Lisa. And the guy, the lady that played Lisa, she's young. so she was a young Lisa, you know, and the thing, is from the Steinbrenner family. Her grandpa was George Steinbrenner, who owns the Yankees.

And so it's really interesting, but, you know, she wasn't going by any names. She was trying to make her own way in Broadway herself, and she's a very talented singer. But we developed a friendship that still goes to this day, just like what Jay said. Every time we go to New York, her name is Haley, we look her up, and she met her husband.

Her husband is a talent agent. She met him at our musical, the guy she's married to now, which is really amazing. So he was the director's agent, and that's how they met. Now they have a daughter together. It was just really incredible. We still are close to them. We went to Tampa to do an event. We actually went to lunch with her mom, who's Straner's daughter, wonderful, awesome people.

And, you know, all that came about. That's what I'm saying. I just thought about all these surreal moments. But that's what I'm saying. I mean, just think about stuff that's happening. And you look at it, you think, we're just a bunch of rednecks down here on the river. But, I mean, God has opened up some doors. I think, yeah.

Jenna Clare Mason was the girl in Wicked. She is one of my favorite human beings on the planet. She is talented. She's awesome. So pretty amazing stuff. I mean, all of it. It's just, it got me thinking when I was watching the prices right of what God is doing. And we give him all the credit and the glory for that, by the way, too.

So interesting stuff. You already get into John? John 13. That's where we left off if we have a place where we leave off. Because we tend, if you had a notice for a view, we tend to ramble a bit. But we end up back on Jesus because that is the fuel. We don't get far away from Jesus because that's a good thing. And the Bible, because we love it.

So last time we talked about leading up to this night, which is the night before Jesus is going to be arrested. And a lot of interesting stuff happens. We kind of laid out. the beginning point, which is him washing the feet of his disciples, which as we discussed last time, is such a moving, powerful thing. And it shadows the cross in that he cleanses us, he does the work. It was his plan through love.

And you're seeing the depth of Jesus's love. Meanwhile, he has one of his close-knit core group members, Judas who's going to betray him and he knows it. And you have the evil in there present, which is amazing to me, because if this is a shadow of the cross, that God's love is that deep in that, you know, in Romans 5 says that,

while we were sinners, Christ died for us. Right. Even the betrayers, even those who wouldn't embrace it. You know, he gave his life for everyone. I mean, that's an amazing, talking about a Broadway musical.

This love story. Trump's all love stories. Which is why I think John mentions that with him. Let's take another break. So, yeah, I want to get into that. I want to unwrap that, Jay's, because, so we find out first that we read before that Satan is prompting him, was the way John put it.

And then later, when we get that, so Jesus, when we get to verse 18. Well, and that's why I brought up the 30 pieces of silver and the advertising campaign, I brought it into modern-day America. That's right. If you remember. because I was like, there's a little deceit going on to make money. Right.

And in this case, you have one of Jesus's close friends, his followers, betray him over what? 30 pieces of silver that he eventually threw back. Out of guilt. And killed himself. That's right. That was a terrible plan. He didn't die well either.

No. No, it was ugly. But... Down the clip, just intestines were hanging out. Yeah. That's an axe. It's like a rated R description of what happened to him. He hanged himself, fell down, split his gut open, and just...

It's trashed is something that even being that close to that much power to the Son of God and all the miracles and all of that. And Judas said watching the whole thing. But if it was just a sneakiness about him, he was the money keeper kind of showing. kind of slicking a little bit on the money, little little stuff. Right. You know, but you could tell he was, he's a little corrupt. But the prompting up there, but one of the, I've told many a person, I said, this is scary.

Yeah, I want to get into it. When we start talking about the evil one, as soon, he said, who is it, Lord? Which one is going to do it? I mean, they're looking around like. He said the one who dips his bowl is the one. He made an announcement. One of y'all is going to betray me. Yeah.

And when he said that, dipping a piece of bread, he said, the one I gave this bread to, he's a man. Judas is scary, it's son of seven. As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him.

That entered into him is a frightening thing. It's one of the scariest texts that I've ever read in the Bible. I'm like, boy, when you do something and this happens, Satan enters you, it is, it is, everybody is controlled by the evil one. That's what Paul told Timothy. Well, he said the whole world. You gently instruct them in the hope that God will grant them repentance. They'll come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil who's taken them

captive to do his will. But in this case, Jesus let it slide. He let him go. Because it fulfilled his plan. And even the verse up in 18, he said the reason he did the whole bread thing was that was the fulfillment of a prophecy from Psalm 41. He who shares my bread has lifted up his heel against me. That was a messianic prophecy prediction from hundreds of years of earth.

No, wait a minute. He could have forced this issue at any point. He could have just turned just. Jesus into a. If you can raise somebody from the dead, that also means that you can turn someone into mist in less than a second. That is correct.

But he wanted to do it because of his love. The whole plan, because God is love. So that's why I tend to always lean toward love and grace, because I know that's characteristic he chose instead of judgment and force. I mean, I told you that we were having a debate because I've been, I live some in Austin, Texas, and feels like, well, I heard some liberals down there.

And I was like, oh, yeah, I saw them. They're protesting here and there down in downtown Austin. I said, but you know what the worst encounter I had when I was in Austin was a religious nut? We were on a little tour. He pulled up in a car and he's like, The judgment of hell is coming on all of you. and he started, you know, calling us homosexuals.

I was there with my wife. I was like, well, I love Jesus. You know, and he was, oh, hell, fire. Then he started dropping F-bombs. And I was like, what part of that? Whoa, you miss that part about the coarse joking and the filthy language. Think about the dichotomy of that. How do you square those two up?

Which it was kind of surreal. And it was actually frightening, you know, because I didn't have a weapon. and he was being really belligerent. I mean, like Missy was like grabbing my hand. Because it was, when someone just comes up and he's crazy and he's like... I witnessed that at the Trump inauguration. It was already chaotic.

There were protesters everywhere. Because we were trying to get out of there. Y'all had a ride out. We had to walk out. And, I mean, then these guys had these big megaphones and they're just doing the same thing and they got all these judgments. But it just created an environment of fear

and chaos. And I just thought, this is not the way to reach people. I don't think. I mean, you're, you're, you're, it's part of, you know. Well, Al, they're, they're just, to me, it's no different than this. There's some betrayal that's gone on and they're sincerely mistaken, maybe, but you're terrorizing the planet in humans. Nobody. And plus they're not sharing Jesus and they're not reading it. It sure didn't look like this picture. They're not reading John 13. I can tell you that. It didn't look like that. I heard that guy. And I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. It doesn't look like. I heard that guy. And I I'm like, Jesus's not dropping F-bombs in between judgment and hell, sir. But, you know.

And we've talked about it on the podcast. The only time you saw Jesus that animated and you could tell he was upset was towards religious leaders. I mean, the rest of the, if he had just sinners, I mean, he was gentle and taught him about love. That's why I always tell everybody. I'm more sad that I am mad. Well, I tell everybody, at some point, every person has to take. one of the gospels and read it for themselves and form an opinion on who God is in Jesus.

Because if you just base it on being with some group or you get that contagion that that guy was spewing all this, you know, judgmental hate. It was judgmental hate speech is what it was. I was like, where's the bridge? Where's the bridge home? Because you burned it. I mean, he was like everybody's burned. I don't, most of what he said, but he was driving a car. car, so the law had, unless he was driving it illegally, because I thought this guy needs, he doesn't need to be driving around downtown Austin. And I know he picked on our guide because he had long hair. And he saw me, didn't like the way I looked either.

So he was hammering us. And I thought, man. Like, dude, you don't even know me. Well, that's what our guide was saying. But then a guide, I'm pretty sure he wasn't following Jesus because he just responded. with every four-letter word in the book. And, uh, because he was like, get on out of here, you crazy, blankety-blank, you know, get away.

I mean, and they, we're all just looking around. I'm like, okay, maybe I shouldn't be here. Well, people have asked, some of our podcast listeners have asked me about, you know, remember a few months back when Seattle was having Chaz and all that, and some guy went in there and was trying to preach to them all, he just decided he was going to wade in with some Jesus, and they just beat the fire out of him. You know.

So there's one here that's going to betray Jesus. Right after that, another one who had been there from the beginning, Peter, he denies that he knows him. You see what I'm saying? So, and then Jesus is talking about the comeback. I'll be with you just a little longer. Then I'm out of here. He's talking about the comeback.

Right. So in the midst of all that, that you would think this is not looking good because we got them standing up and selling Jesus out on one hand. The other one says, I don't even know who he is. I mean, don't be blaming me.

You see what I'm saying? Yep. Let's take a break. You know, what's amazing to do, Phil, you bring that up is Peter actually said at the end, he said, when Jesus said, what do he say? He said, where I'm going, you cannot follow.

was that in verse 36 but you'll follow a peer asked Lord why can I follow you but here's what the key statement he said I'll lay down my life for you and Jesus was like ha ha you're fixing it deny me three times but how many times have you seen that in relationships in the church people are like oh give my life

for them you know I've seen married couples like the husband said I mean I told her I'd die for her I was like well where was that attitude when you were sleeping with this other woman it's like your life is not but it's kind of like peter you get caught up in the emotion of everything and in those moments we say things that are not true you're not giving your life for you're saying oh i'll give my physical i'd rather be dead because then what it's over you don't have to deal with

anything so you can just make this random statement but i don't believe you that you'll give your life for if you won't even give her your life now what's interesting is when peter said you know, I'll give my life for you. Jesus said, no, I mean, before it happened, no, you'll deny me three times, you. Yeah. It's like, it's like, which I wonder what he thought. It's meticulously scripted.

I just wonder what he thought in that moment, because you know he was thinking, there's no way I would do that. Now, Jesus is telling him, and, you know, but he's thinking in his mind, you know he's still thinking, like Jay said, he's thinking, boy, do you ever have this wrong? which is why I think he's the one that took the sword out

and cut off the guy's ear at the moment because he just thought, I'm going to show Jesus, we're going to fight this out if that's what happens. Jesus is like, no, you missed the whole point. It's the same thing that happens when they say, a hurricane's coming. You're like, oh, hurricanes coming. And I've been through lots of hurricanes, no big deal.

But this last one that came through, now when them trees, I'm talking about big trees, started hammering my house, falling in every direction. I no longer thought, Oh, yeah, I've been through a lot of hurricane. You know, I'll be fine. I was thinking, pretty sure I'm fixed to die right here. Because that's what I was thinking.

Big bull, pines start following. It's like when you're in the middle of that, there's nothing anybody can say. You kind of lose, you know, whatever you had justified thinking, it ain't going to happen to me. It hit me. I thought, it's happening. And I was, I wasn't fearful, but I was anxious because I thought,

I'm ready to go. I mean, but instead of being stressed out about it, I eventually went to the bed and went to sleep. Because I just thought if I died, I'd rather just be dead while I'm taking a nap in here. I don't want to see the tree. Because I was going from one end of the house and then boom, I'd hear another than fall. I was like, oh, I better go on this side. Because look, that's a lot of people that died in that hurricane, that's how they died.

The tree fell across the house. So I think he thought the same thing. Everything's, you know, flowers and fluffies at this point. My whole house is surrounded by trees, big tree. You know, when you get, when you're arrested and there's armed soldiers taking your leader, and this becomes real. I think that's what did it is because Peter and all of them kept thinking, still Earthly, they kept thinking, well, he's fixing to put us, you know, he's fixing a rise of me because he kept

on with the kingdom. Well, they didn't get it. They kept thinking he was going to hook the armies. And then when they arrested him, they thought, what were we thinking? They guys an idiot. We're all going to die. They never thought. during the process, he's fixing to save the world.

They just didn't think. That's why I told you, surrender is never an option that people see as a way to victory. And neither is service. You're never going to convince people that what you've got to do to be successful is go around and wash everybody's feet. They're like, I ain't doing that. And they're saying, hey, you want to win, you got to give up. What? It doesn't make, that's why the two hardest things to do as a PUMB, surrender and surrender.

And those are the two things that he said, this is your path to victory. That's why people say, I'm not following Jesus. I'm out on that. I'm not surrendering to anybody. And I'm not going to wash your feet. So I made a point last week in my sermon. I was talking about when Lazarus was raised, you know, he has an interesting discussion with Martha.

And she says, I believe in you. You are the resurrection in the life. You know, she says, I believe. But then as soon as he goes over and says, take that stone off of there. She says, oh, Lord, he's been in there four days. is that you don't want to do that. And I found that fascinating that her belief was that he could do anything, but in her own mind, when it came to actually rolling the stone away,

it was like, oh, he's dead and stinking. And I said, that's so much how we think. And so I said at my sermon, I was like, Jesus then turned around to her and said, hold your nose and watch what I'm fixing to do. Because, you know, I mean, that's what happened. But it's that we're so enslaved to the world, many people are. It's hard to see Jesus.

things exactly what happened to Peter. And you're right, the more chaotic that night became, because they didn't just arrest him, they immediately started beating a fire out of Jesus. I mean, the Jewish guards started first only, and then later got to the wrong. That would be a good bumper sticker. Hold your nose and watch this.

And then have the verse under it. Yeah. Hey, somebody, get on that. Somebody get out of it. Hold your nose and watch this. But have it a resurrection verse. Yeah, that's right. Now, if that's not funny but profound, and yet powerful.

That's right. Well, I need to do it because I came up with it. Yeah. Well, I don't want to miss out on the business. I mean, he already, look. Hey, welcome to the crowd. We went platinum and I never knew it. Phil, you're bitter about this.

No, I'm not better. The check. I just never heard the cheeching. You need to have a meeting when you get home and say. I never said a word about it. That's been years ago now, but I just like always wondered. You got paid, Phil, but. it probably went to Kay and she spent it.

I just saw all the rock and rollers. The rock and rollers trying for the hit, the hit, you know. Kansas, the group out there, the great group, all I love to listen to. Oh, they're good. You know, they finally came up with a hit, you know, wayward. My wayward son. And they hit it on that one and it went platinum. And they were all like, boy, we had a platinum record.

They were all up there holding the record, you know. But I said, yeah, we went platinum one time. one time let's take our last break so uh so you didn't know this dad the lead singer for Kansas I can't remember his name he had developed a relationship

somehow with Tommy Inman somehow they mad Tell him who Tommy Inman is Well we talked about him He preached this sir I know but this may be the first time they ever listened He's one of our elders That's good at Tommy's working with him

Well he's a great baseball he's a coach Yeah, you told the story. Why didn't say he's a coach? No. But he loves the Lord, has a very high pitch for us, which you made fun of. And he teaches Bible at our local Christian school. He's a really great guy.

But somehow they connected, and they actually did a song, a Duck Dynasty. It may have been about you. It was about you or Duck Dynasty or something. They never sold it or anything, but they just did it for fun. Where, because, you know, that guy's got pretty hot.

Steve Walsh? I guess so, yeah. Steve Walsh, lead singer for Kansas. And so they did some song back when the show going on together just kind of you know Tommy wrote it but he they redid wayward son to make something about either you or the family or something but I don't it never went anywhere but it was ducts in the wind I think that is it well because I saw the songs there carry on ducts in the wind dust in the wind dust in the wind there was a second big hit no but they changed it to ducks they changed it to ducks in the wind

and that was about our family or whatever yeah it was pretty funny Tommy you know Tommy was so excited about it. Of course, I thought they probably sell it. But most great ideas about people I had back in those days, you know, they never quite rose to the level, you know, to get there. Said he was a graduate of Christian Brothers High School in Atlanta, Georgia. Yeah, I think he's a believer. I think so.

I mean, I don't know. I'd assume that, especially he was a fan of the show. So back to this to sort of wrap up because we don't have much time well about Peter. So Peter denies Jesus three times, and then we find out from the other gospels, and we'll look at this a little bit later, that basically, you know that the worst feeling in the world was for him to think, because Jesus, you know, dies,

and so he's thinking he's never going to see him again, and the last thing he did was deny him three times. I mean, just think about the guilt that he would have carried. That's why when we get to John, 20. Right. 21. Do you have this moment? Yeah. Because that is. Most people, even in the criminal world,

they're like, mainly because they're cowards, they're like, they do all this crime, and then they're like, well, I'll just kill myself in the end because I don't have to answer. O contrary, because it's not over. We all know that. I mean, there's a resurrection of us and the wicked. There's going to be some consequences to this.

But you're right, for Peter, have to have this conversation with Jesus. I mean, I just, I feel, almost feel sorry for Peter. That would have been the most awkward, embarrassing thing ever. John 1335, which we always quote over and over and over, all men, I give you a new command, love one another, as I've loved you, and just wash their feet, so you must love one another. And this is his parting words, really.

men will know that you are my disciples if you love one another he said that's that's what it's all going to come down to yeah well that right there supersedes the you know you look at judas who betrayed him and jesus and said i don't know him he said look you just got to learn to love and you know i am but you know phil you bring up a good point it's like because you brought up we're making fun about the christmas album and singing it well he's all family we got along which is one reason it was good. Yep. And the guest singers that we had were fans of the show, whatever.

So it was all a fun venture. Nobody felt like, oh, I had to go to it. It was all fun. I even sang a song. Even in the producing it up there at the, in the. They laugh. It was like one of the best times we ever had doing it. But a couple years ago, when Missy and I was doing the worship at our church,

and we were formulating a group of people. You know, I remember telling Missy, we got an argument because she's the, I have zero talent. I mean, in fact, when I sang in front of Mr. Cannon, he said, because we sang the song. And he said, tell me what the song was. It was the baby. It's cold outside. That was how I did it. Yeah, cold outside.

And she's singing like a bird. But I sang in it first. I'm not going to do it today. I'm not nervous about it. I'm just saying once you've figured out the best way to do it, I'm not going back. And so I sang it the first time, and he said, Jesus, is there anything else you can do? And so I didn't know how to answer that question because I thought, is there anything else I can do in Nashville? Because we were in Nashville.

I thought, in Nashville? And he said, no, with the song. And I thought, did I get the words wrong? So that was a nice way of him saying is, this ain't working. Yeah, I was gathering that. I said, did I mess the words out? He had to protect your feelings. And he said, no.

He said, you got the words right. And he was kind of thinking and Misty was staring at the wall. And I thought, oh, they didn't like it. So I said, you finally realize we're having an awkward moment here. Yeah, this is an event. I said, just come on out and say, you don't go hurt my favorite. I could have told you this wasn't going to work. I know he was going to work.

He said, no, no, it's funny. He said, you got a couple notes, right? So we can work off that. That's what he said. I said, what if I just, it's kind of a flirtatious song. I said, what I'm really good at, and I'm not good at singing. I said, I'm good with flirting with my wife, because I gave him a little funny speech. I was like, I put all my passions toward one woman for life.

So I said, why don't I just flirt with her and talk to it? He said, let's try that. It was like, here's another idea. So we did. And he's thinking anything's better than what we just did. He didn't say that. So as she starts singing, I'm like, baby, this is cold. that's it well that and look we did that one take he said i think we got it good idea i said that's it

and he's like perfect you nailed it so so they took a couple of this reminds me in the andy griffith episode where they kept lowering the microphone for barney so embarrassed so look there's like from trash to treasure treasure there was like two notes that i got right out of the whole song the first time. So there's twice in there you hear me singing. I got it right. The rest of the time, I'm like, baby, I'm telling you. It's cold. Oh, I laugh every time I hear it because I knew the story, but it makes it, it makes it funny. I was, I'm not even sure why we were talking. Oh, I was, I was saying so, but when I formed the worship team, Missing our argument, because I said, look, she's like, no, let me handle that. I was like, no. I said, here's what you're not

listening. I said, what we need is a group. of feet washers who hopefully can sing because I said we're going to be changing some things it's going to be uncomfortable so you know we're we were trying to really make some changes in how we worship and how we sing and you saw that and I was thinking we need as few of ego you know maniac real opinionated we need as feel those as possible I said don't go for God given talent and this was the line that I used I said don't Don't go after the most talented, the most God-given talent. I said, go after those who have been God-inspired

and their feet-washers who love people and want to be involved. And that's what we do. She said, I agree with it. And so our little crew, who we got to be really close to. And, you know, we weren't making judgments on them. We just had seen their lives and their attitude, and we're like, feet-washer, feet-washer. and so that's why it was so smooth.

I mean, because everybody came, and really, the reason I'm bringing that up, just think about our church leaderships and our churches as a whole. If everybody had that attitude, what more would be done? Yeah. I mean, it would be fantastic.

If everybody's saying, no, let me wash your feet, no, let me wash your feet with the ideas and what we're going to do. I just think it's... And I thought the way you guys built it was great because you basically pulled it by together. They called, it was a class. They started off and they called the Holy Roar.

And then Jace was teaching the Bible with that idea that this whole thing is about us being like Christ. And where it really showed up to me, it wasn't just the upfront stuff y'all did. But when the pandemic hit, all of a sudden we're like, what are we going to do about, you know, we want to be able to worship with our church family, but we're spread out all over the parish. And so we filmed some videos with that group. And it's still one of my favorite things. The same studio, we did all the stuff for the Christmas album. And they're in their singing.

And they just said, let's just go worship. and we recorded all those sessions, and then we were able to show those with our preaching. And so it just felt like we kept our unity of our church during a hard time. What we did was, because I'm sure people will ask questions. We didn't go to, you know, from Acts to Revelation and say, you know, what is the, you know, because he says it three things when you worship in Ephesians, you sing Psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs. You know, we didn't, I would mention that.

I would teach on that the difference in those types of music and how you, you sing. you sing. What we focused on was the four Gospels where all these spontaneous moments of worship happened where they saw something awesome that Jesus did and then it says, you know, like when Jesus walked on the water and they're like, well, then they fell down and worship. So we would try to have the sermon Jesus centered and have a spontaneous planned worship experience from that that was not, you know, where the audience was like, they didn't know what's coming next. I mean, and all kinds of music. And I really think it worked.

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