Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 151 | Jase Admits He Was Wrong, the Top 10 Duck Dynasty DED List & the Celeb Instagram Blackout

Episode Date: September 25, 2020

Jase unveils his Top 10 "Duck Dynasty" Don't-Ever-Do List. Phil warns against any Supreme Court nominee or candidate who comes to us in sheep's clothing. In a landmark Unashamed moment, Jase admits he was wrong. Phil nails celebrity culture in one Bible verse and learns about Instagram. Jase knocks the 24-hour celebrity Instagram blackout to protest hate speech. And Phil, Jase, and Zach discuss supposed "scientific evidence" that Trump has harmed the country and how to understand the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Yeah, so this episode is, I guess it's Friday. We record these a couple days in advance. So by now we probably have a nominee on the table for the Supreme Court. So a nominee is coming up to be in the Supreme Court. You have elections to see who's going to be president, elections, you see who's going to be senators and who's going to be congressmen and women. and you look at it and you all say, okay, I would just simply say, watch out, this is Jesus's words, the one I follow, which to me, call him what you will, to us, he's king,

Savior, you know, reconciler, redeemer. The way the truth of life. The way the truth of life. He said, watch out for false prophets. Well, there's an opposing side here. Jesus called them false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing. you would think they seem to be the nicest people, you know.

But they end up in politics or on the Supreme Court anywhere else. If I seen somebody come to me in sheep's clothing, I would immediately suspect a weirdo. Yeah. So they come to in sheep's clothing. But inwardly, they are ferocious wolves. There's a group of individuals that you saw them coming, you'd say, what a beautiful lady.

What a beautiful guy. He said, yeah. That's the way I feel about clowns. You know, I don't. Now, unless you're a rodeo club. Because now you're doing a job. Yeah. But if you come to me in a clown out there.

So it begs a question. And the question is, and Jesus asks it, by their fruit. How do you know these people, the false ones from the real ones and the one? Well, Jesus said, by their fruit, you will recognize them. Uh-oh. By their fruit. I'm in Matthew 7 leading into John 14 over there, but just a thought. By their fruit, you will recognize them.

So whatever a person does and whatever he says, he's bearing fruit, either good fruit or bad fruit, because what? By their fruit, you'd recognize. Do people pick grapes from thorn bushes or figs from thistles? Likewise. Every good tree bears good fruit. You say, what kind of nominee you're looking for there, Rob? I'm like, one that bears good fruit.

They're like, what? Who's raw? Yeah, one that bears good fruit. Oh, raw. But a bad tree bears bad fruit. You're like, well, it makes sense. You have two kind of trees, and human beings are like trees based on what kind of fruit they produce. Well, a good tree cannot bear bad fruit.

And a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. every tree these are Jesus's words y'all argue with him every tree that does not bear good fruit and this takes in a lot of human beings is cut down and thrown into the fire thus by their fruit you will recognize them it's kind of a scary passage yeah it's a very scary path look i'm going to do something i've never it inspires me to major in doing good yeah and evil i'm on do something i've never done for on the podcast say the famous words that Robertsons have trouble saying, I was wrong. Uh-oh.

I was. When I went to the school without, which I struggled, I've documented that. What's the school? It was a school of biblical studies. Oh, like the seminary. Yeah, the seminary. And I struggled. If Al hadn't been there, I wouldn't in my past.

And because I just, I couldn't keep my mouth shut. If I didn't agree with somebody, I'm like, hmm. But I did. get into an argument with one of the professors because I was passionate about it. I was like he was saying we were trying to figure out what that fruit was.

What it is exactly the fruit. And I was saying because my view is that every person who understands who Jesus is has a responsibility to share

Jesus with the world. which I still believe that but I was saying that was the fruit here's what I was wrong with he was arguing that the fruit is the fruit of the spirit so like when you say the fruits that the tree produces

and here's why I was wrong because he was right the more I studied later I mean it took me maybe eight years later I was reading one night and I thought you're very stubborn I said you know what he was right about that here's what I missed because what What does fruit have?

They have a seed in it. Well, the seed is what we plant, which has nothing to do with us. Because it is all about Jesus. But the fruit may, the seed may come in all the different fruit, which is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness,

self-control? Yeah. I might have got them all in it. Gentleness. And so whatever you're, so people, so what people miss is, the people who argue that and say, oh, well, that's not my talent to share Jesus.

Well, that's dumb. because God, that's why we're here. God uses us despite our flaws. He redeems us, cleanses us, then he uses us. So your specialty, your fruit may be gentleness. Well, in that gentleness, people are going to find hopefully the seed, which is Jesus. And so we're accomplishing the same thing. But he was technically right because the fruit is, you know, it consists of those qualities that the spirit produces.

So I'm glad you said that. But what it made me think is, is how do we really know anyone? I mean, I think that's a big, just like I thought I knew my wife while we were dating. And about a month into that marriage, I was like, I don't think I knew this woman as well as I thought. Things have changed. How far it's more are you? About a month. And you found that in 30 days.

That reminds me of the old song. 30 days in the hole. You were 30 days in the home. No, I wasn't in jail. But she was, I woke up and she was sniffling. And, you know, I said, what's wrong? And she was like, nothing. Which now I would know.

30 days in, she won't be back with a mama. No, I just knew that now I know when I say, what's wrong? She says nothing. That means everything. Oh, yeah. Everything is terrible. But back then I thought, oh, okay. So I went on.

but I realized there, okay, women, it's a little different situation when you can't leave. You know, now you've got to work things out, talk, whatever. But what I was saying is,

especially in the political world, I mean, we've all done this. You've endorsed people. I try to stay away from that because people are flawed. So it can turn into an embarrassing situation if this, uh,

turns out, that's why I don't like politics. Because you thought, how do you really know anything? And so what I was going to do, I thought I'd do this for fun because a few podcasts ago, we asked Duck Dynasty questions. You weren't here.

And Al, he just thought that would be a good idea because everybody who sends in these emails, a vast majority of them, they're still asking questions about our show, which is really weird. And even when I go to events, we'll do a Q&A, I mean, I'm talking about Jesus passionately, I'm talking about duck call tips.

You know, I'm trying to impress them. And then we're like, we'll take Q&A. And I guarantee you the first hand goes up. And you say, what's your question? They're like, did you really eat 17 donuts on that Dynasty show? And I'm like, I don't know. And then the next question, which is what I got the other night. Did you really sleep on the couch?

No, how long did you sleep on the couch when you made Missy mad for putting mud on her? I thought, was this some kind of. weird article that come out about I had no knowledge so I'm like I don't want to do this the other day Al was like hey let's answer Dynasty questions so I didn't want to hurt

his feelings but since he's not here I'll just run over him I'll run over him dumbest idea we've ever done so as in protest this is how you peacefully protest by the way people you come up with an idea and so what I thought I'd do since

People are enamored with Duck Dynasty questions and they want to know. And you receive no help before you compile your list because I don't know what you fixed to take. Yeah, I don't. No, you have no idea. This is crazy. So I was not part of what you're fixed to do. I'm fixing to break down the celebrity.

And I put that in quotations because I don't consider myself a celebrity. Do you consider yourself a celebrity? Not at all. No, we're just normal people. I mean, look at us. I wouldn't go that far. Not normal people. We're normal people.

And so I'll tell you this, when somebody comes up and they say, well, you sign this. To me, that's embarrassing. Or like when I look and there's a what? It's embarrassing. Embarrassing? For somebody to ask me for my autograph. Now, I mean, when they first did it, I just, I just couldn't do it.

I said, you don't want that. So then I justified it by putting like a little quote from Jesus. And slowly but surely I thought, you know what, it means something to them. Because I come from a background. Look, I would not stand in line for anybody other than Jesus. That's it. But I've seen lines as long as you can see. And I've never brought this up before.

I'm going to break the whatever wall there is between the celebrity and the fan. So I came up with the Duck Dynasty top 10 DEDs. Don't ever do. All right? It's the top 10. Top 10 Duck Dynasty. When you meet them, when you meet a character from Duck Dynasty, DED don't ever do.

Because everybody's asking me questions. Everybody's asking you questions. They're asked about the show. So when we have these encounters, they become awkward. And I'm going to give you 10 reasons why. No, we're doing this for fun. All right, this is... So you're really not...

You don't have your panties in a while about this. No, I don't... I wear underwear. There's no panties in the wall. So anyway, number one, no signing body parts. Has that ever happened? Has that ever happened? Phil, how many times has somebody said, sign this?

I've had pregnant women say, look sign my belly and they'll pull the shirt up i'm like no see this is why i need to bring this list up because you're shocked it's happened to me before oh yeah sign my arm they've asked you to sign a body part and some of the places they're asking me to sign my hand is i wasn't going to go there my hand is shaking i'm like wait a minute here see phil's doing it i just say no well i just all right well you didn't want to be no hand in me i'm making this personalize, don't hand me your phone with somebody on the other line. People don't do that with me.

Oh, that happens every time I go in an event. They're like, hey, talk to them. I'm like, hey. A phone to me, it's like a cotton mouth microphone. Oh, well, that's why they don't do it. All right. Before you go, are you about to go to three? Yeah.

Well, let's take a quick break. Number three, no handing. Babies. Because here's why. Now look, I love babies. I don't like it that most of them either scream as soon as I hold them, pull my beard. But the biggest problem I have is people hand me their baby,

which they say, well, that's awesome. They trust you. Okay, yeah, you can't. They have a do-do diaper. And now I'm like, what do you do? I don't like it. Some guy came up to me and he was helping me run my table. And he said, Robinson, there's something big going on here.

He said, I've been here a week before you arrived. He said, these little Creole girls down there in New Orleans, we were in New Orleans. He said, these little Creole girls, they come up and they're talking, they're friendly. They said, but when you show up, he said, I notice something. They hand you their children. He said, they pass their child over to you. If you noticed that? I said, well, I noticed.

Some of them want me to hold their child, you know, which is what Jason is referring to. He said, in New Orleans, there's only one individual, one that I know of that they'll hand that child to, the Pope. He said, and they're handing you their children. He said, they don't hand me their children.

Well, I think you're saying, and you look like you do. He said, they'd never handed their child to me, but they hand them to you and the Pope. He said, you're the Pope of the unashamedationation. He said, you need to cash in on that. I said, cast in. What are you talking about? Well, they have a, you know, babies have the immune system of, you know, a baby elephant or whatever. You know, so that they're not thinking, because I just, I just wouldn't.

I just couldn't do that. I hadn't thought about it, but until he brought it up. You said coronavirus, last event I did. First out of the gate. He said, I've been here a week. And none of them pre-old girls handing me their baby. He said, not one. And look, I was doing this in the picture, and they were like, look at the camera.

You know, I thought they were talking. They were like, Jase. And I was like, oh, because the smell coming from this baby's rump was just. So they gave you a baby that had pooped in the diaper? The baby had pooped. I was trying to just, what are you going to say? There's 100 people around watching me. I'm going to say, no, I don't hold babies.

But I didn't want to say it's that the baby needs to be changed. It's like the, is it the movie, the campaign and Will Ferrell, is it that where he punches the baby on accident? You don't want to be that guy. I didn't see that movie, but I don't want to be the guy. Okay, number four, no showing tattoos. If you have to show me the tattoo, I don't want to see it. And I've shared how far that went before on an earlier podcast, which some of you. me all might have missed it the gist of it was a couple walked up with their five-year-old son

she said i'm your number one fan i'm like yeah that's great because it doesn't mean anything you know i'm and she's no i really am i look to him he's like oh no she really is and she started peeling down her shorts and it just it happens so fast in the flet you know i was like do i look the guy what and she peeled down and she had the duck commander logo below her belly button pretty far and it was like had just happened

I mean the redness and swelling and I mean I was just like and I looked at him and he just went there's a thousand people around Phil that's your legacy right there it's a okay

there's a wacky world on a yeah number five no photo endorsements. This has happened hundreds of times. They'll hand me a product and say, let me take your picture. Because I know what that means.

We're then going to put this on Facebook and say, geez, thanks. This turkey jerky is the greatest thing ever. So, I mean, they'll hand me something, and they'll like, let me take your picture with this. Yeah. No. Yeah.

That's just no. To me, if you have to do that, to get people to buy your product, that's a cry for help. That's an act of desperation. Make better products. You agree? Oh, yeah.

Or go through the proper channels. On the business end of things, I get a lot of that stuff. I try to get that filter to me because it's like, not if you want an endorsement. Let's talk. Let's see what you got. Let's see if we like your product.

I don't like to stay. Number six, no asking me to get other family members. members to do anything. Because it usually goes like this. Hey, can you give this to sign? Get him to sign it and get it back to me or mail it back to me because he's my favorite. No.

Plus, that's kind of like, that would be like, you know, if I have my kids come out and say, look, you do this for them because they're my favorite. Well, what's this kid thinking? Is it more personal or you just don't want to take the time? I think it's kind of rude and awkward, and I'm not taking the time either. Go find him. Go to one of his events.

Go do that. They don't realize that's just, these are supposed to be fun, but they're getting depressing. Okay, number seven, no private showings of anything. And you said, what does that mean? The statement is always the same. Hey, come over here, I want to show you something. Come out to my truck, want to show you something. Let's go over there.

Let's go over here. I want to show you something. I'm like, show me now. If we have to go anywhere for me to look, I'm out. You'd be amazed how many times this happens. Hey, come out to my car. I want to show you something. No.

I just say no. I said no. They're like, want to? I'm like, I'm not sure what it is. Tell me what it is first. I don't go anywhere. Could be a cotton-mouth snake. Yeah.

No. Number eight. No taste tests. Phil knows this. So people come up and they're like, here, try this. Oh, uh-uh. No.

I'm a picky eater, number one. Number two, I have no idea what this is. So that's out. I would think Corona would have knocked a lot of these out. No. I just did an event. I would say seven out of these ten happened none of the night. This is where I had the idea.

Yeah. Number nine, I know you know of this one. No, remember me. this probably should be number one people walk up and they say hey jays because they know me they say remember me which kind of goes with what we're talking about today I'm like what can I say if I say yes 173 if I say yes I'm lying

if I say no I hurt their feelings so what do you do it's a tough one but I've been I say the same thing what do you say You look familiar. I've got to where I come back and say, when did we, when did we first meet? They'll say, oh, it's back in the 70s. I told you, you told me. And you're like, I don't remember.

It is kind of interesting that people 25 to 40 years ago will say, remember the time you remember me? I said, nah, it's been a while. I said, I see a lot of people. them up and they'll say you told me you pointed me to jesus you tell me what he's done for me and said and and i walked away he said i lived the life of sin for the last 35 years mr roberton but i want to tell you i'm going to take you up on what you's what you started with i should have done that wow i've had quite a few of those well just tell tell him don't say remember me because that's rough all right And the last one, number 10, make sure the person you're walking up to is the person.

Because they'll come up and they'll say, hey, Phil. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I've seen that. Hey, Sae. Hey, I've been called everybody, but Kay. Yeah. We went. Well, Phil and I, I'm trying to think where we were at.

I may have been France or somewhere we were somewhere and we were walking through. I can't remember what the event was. or doing something and everybody was like, look, it's Willie, it's Willie! And they were all like, chasing Phil called it, but I mean, they just saw it. Oh, I know, I've been called Willie.

I saw one Sunday morning that I hadn't seen in 25 years. I saw him sitting there. I had a couple of kids with him. 25 years ago, these kids weren't there. These kids were like seven and eight, nine, ten. Yeah. He was sitting there. I recognized his face,

but I couldn't get his name in my head, but I said, I remember that dude. Yeah. But I said, but now he had a beard. And he said, I fell off the wagon. I said, I've been living alive for seeing the last 20-something years. Yeah.

He said, I'm back. I said, well, it's good to see you. That's pretty cool. But to your point, Jay, I guess you're moving toward, there's a difference between knowing about somebody. Yeah. And then knowing. Well, I shared, you know, I said, you know, last podcast,

I talked about introducing, Don Jr. Even though I don't like politics and I stay out of, which I'm sure people are like what. But my whole point was you don't really know these politicians. So it's very difficult to vote. You get it wrong sometimes.

We all have mistakes. We're all flawed. But I basically got up there and said, I know this guy. Now, do I know him, know him? No. But I know him better than people that I just see

an ad, because I know what they. ad is that's they're trying to put the best light possible on the candidate and they use all means necessary to make that happen literally they literally try to put the best light the danger the danger on our part as far as it applies to us Romans 12 is interesting all for your bodies as living sacrifices holy and pleasing to God which is your spiritual act of worship don't conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you may have to find out what God's will is. Watch.

For by the grace given me, I say to every one of you, so here's my answer to, Jace, your 10 deals on DEDs. This says, do not, I say to every one of you, do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of your. yourself. So you say, so in the midst of people coming up saying, remember me, take a picture here, do this, do that, watch, look at my tattoo, and there's a constant stream of individuals. So in the middle of all that, sometimes a person begins to think there's somebody other than really who they really are, just a human being on planet Earth. So the Apostle Paul was my, excellent point.

Think of yourself with sober judgment like these people are lifting me up way too high. You see my point? Just to give an analogy on that field, look, it's like a couple days ago, a group of celebrities, and I heard this, you know, because I don't watch the news, I don't know how I heard this, but they said we're going to protest the hate speech on social media. So here are these celebrities. And it was like movies that the list was like incredible. And they're like, here's what we're doing to protest.

So I'm like, okay. Hold on. Before you tell us that, hang on, let's take a quick break. I'm waiting for the reveal. How we pro? Because, yeah, I don't like hate speech. I'm in on this. Maybe since I'm considered a celebrity, maybe I'm in on this.

They said, what we're going to do to protest this is we are going to to take a break and we're going to fast, they didn't use the word fast, but it was the equivalent of it, from Instagram for 24 hours. I thought,

what? You're not going to be on Instagram for 24 hours? That's your big, in fact, that's not a protest. You're doing the world of favor. So what's Instagram as,

Okay. I've heard them talk about Twitter. What are the other ones? Facebook. Well, Facebook. What's Instagram in a nutshell? If you're going to fast and not use it, what is that?

Well, you're posting pictures and little stories about yourself. Yeah. And you just said, well, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to give you any of myself for 24 hours. That was his definition. It is the opposite of what you just read. These people think so highly of them. that they think people actually care any find me one person who really cares that you're not

going to post on Instagram for 24 hours I got an answer for you no one cares we in fact that's not a protest that's a that's a cellar that's calls for celebration well maybe I was in pretty good shape when I said what is Instagram if you're going to not use it for 24 hours well what's the big deal about it. Is that like your what goes down if you don't get on it for 24 hour? See, these people, who loses? These people have put themselves on such a pedestal. Does Instagram suffer or I'm suffering by not being on Instagram? I don't quite get the deal. People in Hollywood were sitting there for those 24 hours looking at their phone saying, you know, it's been three hours. They're so high on themselves that they think other people care,

that they're not on it. They drank their own Kool-Aid. I think a better route to go was to, is to live your life, quiet life, mind your own business, work hard with your hands, so your daily life will win the respect to outsiders,

so you won't have to be dependent on anyone. So they ought to jump in there with me for about what they should have said is, listen, here's what we're going to do. We're going to go one month with the duck man and we'll very seldom come out of the woods and we'll just survive and that was the first absurd thing

the other I thought really absurd thing since we're kind of talking about politics is that also saw where I think it was like science magazine which I didn't even know we had a science magazine evidently it's like a big deal among science people they came out with an article

front page saying that they had scientific evidence that Donald Trump the president of the United States scientific evidence that he had done harm to the country. Scientific evidence that he's done harm to the country. I think it was based on that.

That is really good science. I think it was based on the handling of the coronavirus or whatever. But I thought, no, wait a minute here. Is this the same scientific evidence that produced life from this explosion that landed in sea? weed and started a chain of events that produced the most interesting details of life. And you know, you read this stuff and they say, oh, it's science, which I always think of the Nacho Libre. You know, because I wanted to read the article and say, buy a skeleto.

It was all a joke. But no, this is real. And I'm like, what a, you talk about truth. What kind of evidence? You know, where is the evidence? I mean, I think that's why you're supposed to buy the magazine, but I don't know. Well, it's, I think the danger is when we talk about science, science is born out of a, it's born out of Christianity. It's born out of a methodology that seeks to understand the complexities of the world that God's made.

and to uncover causes of things, of the effects that we're observing. So as a believer, we're not anti-science, though. I think that what's happened is science has been politicized, it's been corrupted, and I think it all goes, everything is going to set us up against the knowledge of God, which is going back to your point about some of these 10 things that you said kind of tongue-in-cheek there, I do think it's interesting, though, because I've been with you guys a lot, and, you know, I've watched that people think they know you, because they've watched you on TV.

They've seen, you know, they've made this to the podcast. And you may know about, they may know about you, but they don't know you. And it's kind of the same way when we talk about the Lord. So we can know a whole lot about the Lord. We can know about God. But it's not the same thing as knowing him. I think that going to John 14,

what makes this next probably three chapters of the Bible so powerful. By the way, John 14 through John 17, like that's my favorite. chunk of the Bible because it's the introduction of the Holy Spirit that Jesus is promising us as believers and what he's saying is that the Holy Spirit is going to not just tell you about God so you can know about him, he's going to introduce you to the living God because he is part, he's the third member of the Trinity. Yeah. He's part of the living God. Well, I want to say this. Or not part. That's probably a wrong term. Well, it's hard to describe a being that's three and one. But if you read John 14

after he says I'm the truth the way of the life and then he says something verse 7 he says if you really knew me you would know my father as well so just think about that statement

now if Jesus is true which we believe he is and he can't lie there's a way to actually know Jesus and thus know the father no I mean, they're using the same word we're saying.

That's why we tend to focus on the red letters. So verse 8, Philip said, he still doesn't get it. Lord, show us the Father, and that'll be enough. Jesus answered, don't you know me? He says the same thing. You're not trusting what I'm saying. Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time, anyone who has seen me has seen the father that's why we say focus on jesus you don't know what

god is like jesus is the image of the invisible god how can you say show us the father don't you believe that i am in the father and the father's in me i wouldn't know what to say if he asked me i'd be like maybe what are you talking about the words i say to you are not just my own rather it is the father living in me who is doing his work. Now, before people say, well, this is the craziest thing I've ever heard, he's going to make an analogy with what you said about the Holy Spirit. He's setting up the analogy that in verse 16, before I get back to reading verse 11, he says, I will ask the father, and he will give you another counselor to be with you forever.

The spirit of truth. He's going to give that to us. The world cannot accept him because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him. Now here's the point, for he lives with you and will be in you. So if it's crazy to think that God was in Jesus, well, it's even crazier to think that he's in us. But he was saying, if I can pull it off, you can pull it off.

So then I want to get back to 11 because I don't say this about the science. He then says, believe me, when I say that I'm in the father and the father's in me, or at least, or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. And I want to say this, if you take science and you add miracles, that produces a supernatural scientist. because Jesus is taking the science of matter, and he's then doing something that's not possible in the scientific realm. Would you agree? Yes.

Now, whatever it is, there's a list of miracles you can choose. So that's why when people said, do you believe in science? I believe in science. I'm like, oh, I do, do. But the science I believe in has a supernatural twist. Well, they can only take you so far. Science can only take you to a place of understanding the uniformity of natural causes. So I can only see a natural cause to a natural event or a natural effect.

And if I keep pushing that back, I mean, the analogy I always give is like your favorite game, Domino's, you know, so you know how they set them up and they hit one, they all fall down. You know, in a chain. Science is like, I go in, I see this one that's laying. down and I'm like, oh, I wonder what's happened here, and you do your scientific method. Oh, another one fell and hit this one. Okay, well, then you push it back. Well, what caused that one to fall?

Oh, another one, another one, another one, another one. But you have to get to a, you're going to get to a place that you're going to have to ask the question that can only take you so far. You're going to have to ask the question, what initiated all of this? And even like when you mentioned kind of Big Bang cosmology, you know, the, everything exploded into being. Stephen Hawkin, who wrote the book A Brief History of Time. Yeah.

And he basically, it's a book that's about how they came up with the Big Bang cosmology. Yeah, the strings and the... Well, not string theory, but he talks about string theory in there, but he says in the book, the reason why we are talking about string theory and oscillating universes and all these other complex physical models of how the universe got here, He says the reason why we are doing that is because once we got to the end of what he calls the standard model of physics, which is the Big Bang, he says, once we got to the end of that, we realize something that time, if this model is true, he says, if what we've discovered by the scientific method is true, he says, time has a beginning. And he says, if time has a beginning, he says, here's the problem with that. There's a God. In other words, his exact words, it smacks a beginning. of divine intervention.

In other words, there's a God. He says, therefore, the goal of modern physics is to disprove what we've already proven because we know God's not real. Well, my point is they've elevated science

as the ultimate authority. And they based truth on the science. And like, we got the scientific magazine, which evidently is a big deal. And there said, oh, we have the evidence, which it seems absurd.

Because basically, we're back to where we started. They have a narrative that they don't like, President Trump. And so they write an article that just fits, there's no scientific evidence

that proves he damaged the country. They use it to manipulate the truth. All right. Okay. Now, you may not like him and he might have made some bad decisions. But scientific evidence is a completely

different category. So what I noticed when I read this, when he said, believe me in verse 11, when I say that I'm in the father and the father's in me, well they're having a hard time believe in that but he's like okay but why not because they saw him do miracles so he's like even though you're having a hard time believe that because you're a human and i came

from god why not at least believe the evidence of the miracle what how are you explaining in your mind what he's saying that the actual evidence of a miracle that i've showed you over and over and over again. Now, the person who don't believe, they'll say, yeah, but we hadn't seen the miracle. If I saw the miracle, I'd believe, well, no, you wouldn't, because they saw it, and they still had trouble. Because it's not, it doesn't fit our world. I mean, the guy says he's not from this place, and the father, whoever that is, is in you, and he's going around claiming to be the son of God, say, I'm the way, the truth of life, you know, I'm going to build a place for you. I mean, This is sounding like some kind of serial killer,

his mindset on how to take over the world. Hey, I'm going to build a place. Y'all follow me. You know, I've got some trickery and some miracles. We're going to take over the world. We'll be the most powerful people on planet heaven. Okay. Well, only crazy people will follow that.

Let's break. So then he gets to the end. Look, verse 12, he says this same statement again, which, by the way, how many times did Jesus say, I'll tell you the truth. A lot. Anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these because I'm going to the Father,

which then he's going to introduce the Holy Spirit. But then he says, and I will do whatever you ask in my name so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. You may ask me for anything in my name and I will do it. And the point I want to make is, don't underestimate doing something in the name of Jesus and I don't mean just the phrase

in a lot of the religious world they got hung up on that but he had just said do things do what I do so you read the red letters you want to get to know God through Jesus and you start doing things that he did

and then you start saying I'm going to do this in Jesus' name Don't ever underestimate the power in a supernatural scientist being on your side and for you. Because the possibilities are unlimited. I've seen the ones that have come down here. They say it's their last wish because they're not going to make it. Science says the medical profession says they won't make it.

We prayed for them in the name of Jesus. and we pointed all them to Jesus, and they leave, and guess what? They're still here. They didn't die. They're still alive. Someone says, well, they just got lucky. I said, it's possible.

I said, but we relied on God. Please deliver this one. Save him, Lord. Heat his disease. They're still on the earth. Don't put your faith in science. Put your faith in the living God. I think that what I love about John 14 and through John 17 is we are getting a picture of the,

of the character and the nature of God. God is not, he is three persons in one being. And it took me about to kind of grasp some of these concepts of who God is, because we say phrases like, everything that God does, he does for his own glory. And I would hear things like that, And I would think, oh, he sounds insecure. He sounds narcissistic.

Like, he needs me. I thought the same thing. I'm like, well, and that's what the anti-religious say. They're like, well, how come he wants all the glory? But finish your thought. Yeah, my thought on this is that we're never going to be able to make sense of these things about God unless we presuppose that he's three persons in one being. And I know that's complex.

And I know every time I talk about this, you know, I've had even in the church, people are like, no one knows what you're talking. I'm like, look, if we're talking about the character of God, we better all start exploring this. But this isn't Isaiah. But I want to say this for you really. Because I just want to make it simple.

The point is, and the reason I told about, oh, you think you're a celebrity, no. Look, glory is not bad. We tend to think having or experiencing glory is bad. It's not bad. How you handle it can be good or bad. But if you have God who correctly knows how to handle glory, and you say, well, how do you know how he correctly handled glory?

Because he became a servant and made himself nothing out of love to save those that he made. Well, he knows how to handle glory. Because somebody like me, I'm like, I got all this power. I'm going to go buy me your, you know, a planet, if I could. But I'm saying, how do you relate to God? He has everything. But my point is, when you view God in that light where he's just doing all this for his glory, like that's a negative thing.

It's okay if you know how to handle glory. It's okay, too, because when God the Father and Isaiah 42, he says, I will share my glory with no one except for you to the son. So that means that the father is not sharing his glory with us as humans. He's sharing his glory with the son. This is on Isaiah 42, and it's also referenced in Matthew as well, and I think of Isaiah 48. But then when you get to John 17, which we'll get to in a few weeks, and John 17, I think it's 22. Let me read that.

We'll read it because I was going to read John 17, 3. Okay, here's at the end. Here's John 1722. The glory, what you have given me, this is Jesus talking, to the Father, when did he get that glory? It was eternal, but it's what he's talking about, Isaiah 42.

The Father says, I'm only giving it to you the Son. But listen to what the Son says. I have given to them that they may be one just as we are one. I and them and you and me that we may be perfected, in unity so that the world may know that you sent me and love them even as you

have loved me. So the father I think the reason about the Trinity is so important is the Father is not sharing glory with us directly. He's giving it to the son. The son incarnates becomes human flesh. This is the gospel that you preach on every single Sunday. The God, think about

the second member of the Trinity, the son takes on human flesh, allows us to get our hands on him. He's about to go the cross right here in John 17. We killed him with our sin, right? And then he's raised from the dead to live a new life. And those who are in him will participate in the glory of God because the son gives it to them. And he does it by the Holy Spirit. Awesome. That's why when somebody's standing in a line, the reason I feel awkward, the reason I mean, I was goofing around about that. But I'm like,

in the end, I want to be one in Jesus. You're a sinner. I'm a sinner. The baby you handed me is not. Okay. But I'm not any better than you. I've made mistakes. And I know one thing, we both need Jesus.

I just think it's humbling that Jesus in his prayer prayed for us to be one. That's why I make fun of these celebrities, because look, they're in La La Land. A lot of, I've met them too. They think they're better than you. Why? Because you were on TV and made a bunch of money.

You ain't better than me. I know you struggle with, but if you believe that, if you take that glory, you know, it's like the, I'm making all these Nato Libre. He said, don't you want to get a little taste

of the glory? See what they tell you's like. But what are you going to do when you experience it? It's all a shallow, that's why the most depressing, people I've met are professional athletes who are making boatloads of money. Yeah.

And celebrities have all this money, the houses, and they can't find peace. So the reason I said I was going to read John 173, because we, now we'll get to John 17. Yeah. But all of this is what we're telling about. All of it. The whole point of the book of John, you know, we've been here for months. We're trying to explain Jesus. You're like, why are you explaining Jesus?

because in John 14, he really starts getting down to the nuts and boats of what he's all about. He's like, I thought you knew me. It just seems like a random statement. But then he says it again, well, if you knew me, why is that important? Why is knowing Jesus intimately important? Because in John 173, when he prays this, he says, now this is eternal life, that they may know you the only true God in Jesus Christ. whom you have sent.

What a statement. You want to talk about science? Science has no answer for eternal life. It can't explain God, although I think it should point to it because of the detail. These positions that are mentioned are awesome.

He said, I will not leave you as orphans. This is John 1418. Yeah, that's where we're getting too next. I will not leave his orphans. I'll come to you. before long the world will not see me anymore he gone no more Jesus they you can 33 years 34 to most gone but you'll see me now the way this is worded it makes your mind it makes you your your brain pan kind of quake because I live you also will live on that day you will realize that I'm in the

father and you're in me and I'm in you you you're talking about us, shifting, going around on whoever has my commands and obeys them, he's the one who loves me, he who loves me will be loved by my father and I too will love him and show myself to him. He goes on to say, make sure you do what I say. You obey what I tell you. You obey what I tell you. That means that proves you know who I am. You obey me. So the final thought is there's only one celebrity. His name is Jesus. Well, let me say this. I got one thing I want to say, but we're out of time, so we'll go behind the paywall. If you guys aren't subscribers, you can go to blazedtv.com slash unashamed to hear the last little bit of this conversation.

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