Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 161 | Jase's New Treasure-Hunting Finds, the Netflix Indictment, and Jesus the Human Detector
Episode Date: October 13, 2020Jase is giddy over the 127-year-old coin he found after a hurricane uprooted a magnolia tree on his property, but Missy isn't thrilled about Jase's next metal-detecting idea. Phil, Jase, and Al talk a...bout uncovering lost treasure in God's creation, why Jesus spent time with sinners, the Netflix indictment, and seeking the light of the world. And Jase reveals how he ended up growing a tree in the back of his truck. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I am unashamed. What about you?
Feeling good today. I'm almost giddy.
Because yesterday we were...
I thought this was going to be because you got back from Texas from your conjugal visit with your wife.
Well, yeah.
Is that what got you getting?
Yeah, that's always good.
But yesterday, you know, we did some podcasts.
I've been back.
This was what the second day?
And I was talking on the phone to my wife, Missy,
because I was going out to our old place that we, basically,
she has a big wedding out there at our old plantation place.
Because that we turned into a venue.
Which, by the way, so from what I hear, I mean, a lot of people are booking.
That thing's booked up for like, wrecks.
Hurricane hit, and everybody said, let's go to Port Louisiana and hang out.
It is a beautiful place.
I mean, it is amazing out there.
Well, thank you.
And so, well, we had a hurricane hit.
So she's like, we had the biggest tree we had on our property went down.
I'd say half the trees were damaged in some way.
We're talking about trees, too, that are hundreds of years old.
Hundreds.
I mean.
Them big oak trees out there have been there a while.
I mean, I guarantee you.
Over this piece of property, we got right over here, the maps right there.
Hundreds, hundreds.
trees hit the ground.
I mean, the estimates I got were like, oh, well,
because I know they pulled up and thought,
we're going to need a bigger saw.
Yeah, by the way, I kept it in context.
And when you get on the floor of these woods we have over here,
I would say these are roughly a couple hundred years old, the timber.
But that's a pretty good size oak trees.
It's almost as old as our country.
That's right.
So Thomas Jefferson and that group he sent up through here,
to see what he had purchased for $15 million,
the Louisiana purchase.
He sent a group up here looking around
and see him at the good,
and they sent back,
finally got word back to him that this thing floods a lot.
Yeah.
You go, I don't know, you don't want a farm this thing.
You know what they also said?
They were looking at the watermarks way up there.
You know what they also said?
A lot of blood-sucking flies.
A lot of blood-sucking flies that it really gets you.
But anyway, all that timber over there,
I saw there's hundreds of them on the ground,
but as it turns out, I'm looking at it.
I always look at it from a spiritual view.
I just noticed the floor of that forest over there.
It's right down here about a couple of miles over there.
The floor, as far as you could see, you know,
and I'm looking until you can't see,
but I'm looking half miles.
I'm looking way down through the wood.
big timber, open wood.
You don't see very many of them anymore.
They've cut them off.
They cut them off.
But I just looked, and the floor over there, there is an oak sapling.
Every three quarters of an inch, it's like you planted your grass in the yard, but these
are oak trees.
It is oak trees, and they're this tall.
They're about.
About a foot.
They're seedlings.
It's about eight inches.
They're eight inches tall as far as you can see.
So I'm looking at the trees that are down through there,
and I'm looking at what's going to replace them.
And I'm thinking, no worries here.
You go out to wait a while a couple hundred years before it all comes back.
We'll be long ago.
But the timber is going to replace itself without me planting anything.
It's all there coming back.
One of the things my wife, when we were dating.
Hundreds goes down and thousands come back up.
tens of thousands to take its place.
One of the things she thought was interesting about my life
is because I was cutting firewood at the time when we were dating.
I remember the firewood stage.
Oh, yeah.
I cut it long enough.
Your old Williams.
Yeah, to realize that I need to do something else long term.
Now you do it for exercise.
I had a tree because, you know, you get dirt, debris in your truck
because I was using the back of my truck,
and we would do like seven, eight loads.
But I had, from all that, I had a,
a pinn oak tree begin to grow in the back of my trunk.
And so once I saw it, I was like, because I had just gotten out of the firewood business.
I was like, I'm going to see how long this thing grew up.
By the way, too, me and you, that was pre-surge on the duck calls, pre-television.
That was pre-everything.
I'm just telling you right now, it was a good call that you didn't get into the wood-cutting
business son.
Yeah.
But I did.
The future there was, uh, no, no, you stayed the course.
But it did give me some skills that, oh yeah, like that I can help my neighbors.
Like, but during a hurricane, I mean, I basically saw it up everybody's trees.
You had to make a chainsaw hand out of you.
Oh, yeah.
You get good with.
Of course now.
Your buddy that you were with, I went down there in a moment of weakness.
I finally got him corralled.
I wanted to use his particular skill set.
and really the muscle power.
Boy, he had done it from birth.
He looked at me and had a chan saw in his hand.
And I said,
I said, it won't take us 30 minutes.
I was talking about a six-month job,
and I said, it won't take a 30 minutes, Sir Williams.
I said, we need to cut these trees down
to make us a hole for our duck hole.
And he looked at me, and he said,
we rule these woods.
I said, now that is the kind of redneck you want on your side.
He just rode him like,
We rule these woods.
I'm going to tell you, that guy worked.
The reason I was in business with it,
he worked like three men.
I mean, just a beast.
And he, when he, when he,
because he taught me how to split wood.
People say, oh, that, what are you talking about?
He taught you.
That Joker starts at one end of the tree,
and he never picks up anything.
He swings around a light mall.
He couldn't see what I was already looking at.
I was looking at a big, big block of woods there,
and I was going to make about a three-acre lake out of the whole thing.
Well, I could already see it, but he didn't know why we were cutting them.
I just said, we fixed to take this whole woods out, and I said, you cut them,
and I'll haul them.
So he was cutting them into the lengths I could pick up.
I was about, that's been 25 years ago.
That's probably been 30 years ago.
30 years ago.
So I was a younger buck.
That's about y'all's age.
But anyway, I'm picking them up and carrying them or putting them in a pile,
and I'm burning them as he's cutting them.
And look, we went down through there, and I'm not kidding.
And one day, you looked up and there was an opening there.
Well, now, 30 years later, you pull up out there.
Everyone thinks it's just a natural lake.
Yeah.
We made that.
We took all them trees out, and I dug all the dirt up to make the levee to hold the water.
Yeah, but you wore my guy out so much.
Then we stopped cutting fire.
He told me later, he said, I said, remember when you said, we rule leaves wood.
And he fired that thing up.
He said, I never got over it.
Well, you know what, and to wrap his story up, so you didn't know this at the time, but he's a genius.
Like Williams is highly intelligent.
And he's a computer, an IT guru.
It's one of my inner circles.
We joined the Air Force, and that's where he learned.
Yeah, he's been, he's still active.
You know, he's over at Barcliffe's.
He's a great guy.
He's a biblical theologian inner circle.
He knows the Bible.
You can call him up at any time or send him a text and say,
I was reading and just pick a chapter, Old Testament or New.
That's correct.
What do you think?
There's no, he's going to go research it.
I'll get back to you.
It's an immediate response, which is, which is you think about.
You say, well, how does a guy know that much Bible?
He studies it.
There's no magic formula there.
You know, because you're like, how would you even attempt to do that?
So anyway, I was going there to check out and see if they had cleaned it up.
We had trouble, obviously, fine.
By the way, how long did the pinn oak grow in the back of your truck?
Oh, yeah.
It got big enough to where it became uncomfortable.
But, look, people would gather up.
Most people don't manicure and raise a tree.
Now that's a redneck.
You might be further than a redneck.
I had it for over a year growing.
It became a small sapling.
And look, you know what I did?
I actually relocated it when we lived out there by Max.
So it lives on.
It still lives on.
It lives on.
And you said you don't hug trees.
That's right.
I've been saying you're like an environmentalist.
You could go out to California with that story like that.
I never hugged it.
I'll hug my kids.
They converted you.
No, I hug my kids, but trees don't need hugs.
I got that.
So I'm driving out there to check it out for Missy,
because she's like, oh, we got this wedding.
She's like, I want you to, if you don't mind, go look and see if they cleaned it up.
Well, I pulled up there, and I was like, because you got to remember last time I saw it,
it looked like a war zone with all the trees there were.
And I was like, it's awesome.
because what I was thinking,
I saw the two biggest trees in the front yard.
It was just a big dirt spot where they had been.
Where the roots pile out.
Well, and where the tree fell, I mean, this tree is so big.
I can't even embellish.
I mean, y'all know, if you don't have any idea,
I mean, just think of the biggest tree you've ever seen in your life.
Well, when it hit, it made multiple holes in the ground.
Yep.
because it's so big.
Wasn't it a magnolia tree?
Yeah, it was the biggest magnolia tree I've ever seen.
Me too.
And I've seen it's a big one.
So what they did was...
That's Louisiana's a state tree.
Because she was like, really?
It looks good.
And Mississippi.
But here's what I was thinking.
Because they had to move that dirt around,
so I'm sure they got them, whatever.
You know, because they not only cut the tree up,
they left, it was just the dirt spot, level.
one filled in the hole but you know what I was thinking they disturbed the ground I thought I
thought I need to run a metal detector over that even though I've hunted it hundreds of times in my
front yard so really she was getting a wrong message because she was like well how did they not
mess up the ground I was like oh it's a big dirt spot the size of four vehicles she was like oh no
I was like no looking for trinkets some guy and his girlfriend in about 1840 might have been
out there, you know, relaxing against that magnolia tree.
That's right.
So I had told you on the last podcast, I had visited Garrett,
and I didn't have the new one they gave me,
but they had given me a prototype before.
So I was like, because it was right for Dart.
And so I pulled up in the yard, which was cool.
I didn't even park in the driveway.
I just pulled over there because I could see where they had done it
to clean up the trees.
Yeah.
And I got that, I didn't even have earphones on.
So it's like making noise.
It's kind of embarrassing, like people going out of beach.
It's not for me.
So I literally walk 10 feet into the bear spot in a place I've hunted hundreds of times.
And it went, bloop, bloop, bloop.
And so I looked down, well, it was the number of silver.
You know, it has a number on there.
And it was basically the number for a quarter or a half dollar.
I was like, there's no one.
So these things are so sophisticated, you can tell what kind of metal it is.
Oh, yeah.
Well, because the number and the sound, I'm matching them up.
And it was set of 84.
Well, 84 on this Garrett model is a silver quarter.
Now, sometimes I've seen that, and it's something that was kind of the equivalent,
maybe a piece of brass that was the size of a quarter.
So, but I'm like, and I didn't believe it.
I was like, there's no way.
because I thought I might find a penny
but a silver quarter
I mean that's like going on
it's like the fireworks going off in your head
so I'm like
I didn't even have my shovel I walked back
got my shovel I just I put the detector
down there I was like that's what it says
and it's fresh dirt
maybe I missed it and they turned the dirt over
maybe they uncovered it
I dug my little hole
plopped it out
Bam.
Exhibit A, if you're listening.
What year?
Wow.
1893.
Silver quarter.
Look how good a shape it is.
Wow, that thing is.
What is it worth in today's?
It's priceless.
Huh?
Priceless.
I don't want to know.
Everything got a price.
I didn't look it up because I didn't want it to be worth a lot because I would never sell that.
So it was a nickel?
No, a quarter.
Is that a quarter?
Who's that?
It's smaller than the old quarter.
Who's that on the thing?
I don't know.
I'd have to ask for it.
Yeah, that's been here a long time.
He's got a ponytail, though.
Yeah, 1893.
Yeah.
I think it's that old British singer nod in him.
Now, think about that.
So there's a couple things here.
It looks like a, hang on jazz.
Let's take a break.
So there's a couple things here.
One, this is a hundred and twenty-seven years old.
That's amazing.
Whoever lost this, he's dead.
Oh, yeah.
And look, he didn't mean to lose this.
But he was up under that magnolia tree.
He had to have reached in his pocket whatever
or been lounging back with his girlfriend.
I'm going back to the guy and the girlfriend because magnolia tree.
And it's close to the river.
Let's talk.
And because something, he reached in his pocket to get something.
And he dropped that quarter.
He dropped that quarter, but not knowing it.
And look, a quarter in 1893, that was a lot of money.
Yeah, I'd open a lot of doors.
Yeah.
So then, of course, then I hunted until slap dark.
Every piece of that.
No, I did find this, which I thought was unusual.
It's some type.
So do you think when they did that, they dug that, that was deeper down?
Yeah.
Or they just, the grass was not giving me a good seat.
Because the grass was real thick there.
I just wasn't getting the signal because it wasn't that I hadn't hunting.
because it wasn't that I hadn't hunted there.
I've hunted in that area more than any place,
and I've had professionals in there.
Therefore, to sum it up, when a tree falls,
it's like me.
I found a tree fell across the road and blocked me off,
so I had a chainsaw with me.
We carry them with us all the time.
It's like standard equipment.
So I got out there.
That's another Louisiana.
Bloodsucking flies, and everybody's got a chainsaw.
I was cutting the tree up off the road.
and the pieces I could pick up,
I'd say the tree was like this.
It was actually a big limb off of,
what is it's a cottonwood.
It's a big limb of it.
Well, I cut about halfway through it,
and I picked up one,
I was cutting them in the lengths about like that,
and I threw it over in the ditch,
and I just kept in, I got about halfway,
and I looked down,
and a Indian, a,
a stone axe.
And I looked at it, I said, that's a Tommy Hawk head.
It was like the head.
It was sharp, you know, come to a point.
But I reached down and picked it up, and my hand fit perfectly.
They had used it so long.
It was some kind of tanning thing that they took.
Where was this out?
Right over in the middle of the road, right where you turn left
at George Franklin's Gate.
Well, I need to go over there.
Yeah, there's an Indian camp.
You used to camp there because I found the shales.
Why are we just now bringing this up?
We've been here 40 years.
I've been metal detecting.
I'm widening your looking your chances.
But anyway, I picked that thing up and I said, what in the world?
I said, how could that?
And I just got to looking at it.
It had come out of that tree, old tree.
and this was a limb that broke off.
Somehow, because the day before,
I've been driving through there for, you know, 10 years.
But the stone axe was not there.
It wasn't down in the ground.
It was just lying there on top of the ground.
So you think it was in that tree?
It was in the tree.
The tree had gone around it.
And when the tree hit, it'd be falling out.
Where is this act?
Well, I come along there, throw it, cut the tree out, and this stone axe,
I still have it on my mantle at the house.
I show it to people, and they're like,
Where in the world did you get that?
How have I never seen it?
I mean, we need, as soon as this is over, I'm going to...
I don't go around showing people my rock.
I'm yours.
He doesn't break as soon as this is over, I'm going to look at this.
And then you've got to know where, because there's probably some other stuff there.
Your boys are inquisitive enough.
You can come up with all kinds of stuff.
I can show you where these Indians camped.
I know where their camps are because I see them shells.
They piled up muscle sheds.
that the women, the women would go get the muscles,
bring it up for a meal,
and they might have roast them over the fire,
or they cooked them or just ate them raw.
But our idea of oysters,
these are freshwater...
So it's a lot.
It's not metal.
That's why I've never done Indian things
because they didn't use metal.
No. No.
But the boats, when they looked down the river one morning,
you know, I would say 1600s.
They looked down the river and they saw a paddle boat
coming with some strange-looking people.
And they're paddling up that way.
And they're like, these were friendly Indians, by the way, the Wasatahals and there's some more of them.
But when they looked and saw that first boat, they thought, who in the world?
I'd probably scared the daylights out of them.
Sure.
Well, these guys pulled over.
You know, they'd trade them some stuff.
And that's how.
So when I was in college.
It was the arrival.
It was actually the beginning of the end, but none of them knew it.
The diseases they brought and all of the stuff.
The wars.
Probably 40 miles and less than that as the crow flies from here, this poverty point
around Delhai.
So whenever I was in college.
It's a little bit of a ridge.
Yeah.
That place, you go back far enough, the way my professor described it, that thing was
the trading center, I mean, like huge.
I mean, people coming down the river, see it, coming over from the Mississippi River.
So that thing, they were trading all the way up to Wisconsin and Minnesota.
They were coming down.
I mean, that's how big that area is over there.
I've hunted the friend.
Think about it.
We're down in Louisiana here.
I mean, you know, the biggest hill we have is not very tall.
728 feet.
There are no rock outcroppings.
That stone axe, oh, it did not come from Louisiana.
Somebody transported that from way up there somewhere.
We don't have rocks like that.
We don't have rocks like that.
That was traded.
And what's weird as I thought Phil was going.
going to comment that in 1893
they had a
ponytail on
this guy's
on a coin.
What do you think about that?
The Almighty, it's just like whiskers, I guess.
The old coots, you know.
I do like that... I don't know who was the president
in 93. I don't know, but it does say.
Jefferson and those guys are about
1800, so it was about
93 years, about five
could have been... Well, Teddy
Roosevelt was right around 19th century.
Somebody right now is...
Stonewall Jackson, when with old Jackson
was about number seven?
Somebody is screaming this in their car
because they know the answer.
That's right.
But I do like in 1893
that above his head it says,
in God we trust.
Yeah, which is awesome.
I also found this,
which I don't know what it is.
That's why.
It says it has a 50 on it.
And when you feel it,
you can tell,
it's the same material they make
tokens out of,
it's some kind of token.
And it says,
Patten applied for at the bottom.
But I don't know what it is.
If anybody out there is listening, we'll get a picture.
Now on the back, it doesn't really have anything, but I don't know what that is.
It says 50.
It says 50, and it says, I had to get a magnifying glass at the bottom.
It says Pat applied for.
It's about the size of a penny.
Yeah.
What do you make of that?
You know, I don't know.
Patten applied for?
Yeah, so they said they were going to be the only one to had that.
I don't know.
So it can't be a coin.
It's not a coin.
But it's some material.
It was, for you metal detectors, it came up like a 74 on that Garrett machine.
It's got 50 on it.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know what the 50 is.
And it's got little designs on it.
It's not in the greatest to shape, but.
So anyway.
That thing may be worth $2 million.
no no it's not because it's the wrong material but it's priceless so i've said you think about it
i mean that's been there i but say what 150 200 years i don't know i don't think this is that old
i think it's probably i'm guessing because i found similar types i'd think this was probably in the
1920s or 30s maybe still a hundred years ago oh yeah 100 years but it's but it's
It's not this.
This is the 1893.
Whoa.
In spectacular, well, not mint, but it's as fine of a quarter that I've seen, even on the internet when I was looking it up,
I didn't see any that had been circulated that looks this good.
So don't make me an offer because it's not for sale.
You don't do it for the money, Josh.
I mean, it's not mine.
Remember that?
What am I quoting here?
It's not mine.
that's outlawed jersey well.
Oh, yeah.
Remember when he came in, he was trying to buy the squaw.
Oh, yeah.
He's like, she doesn't belong.
She works here.
Yeah.
That little smooth way of, of course.
Put her on that bill, too, you know.
And then he was there, and they came up there.
And he's like, they knew who he was.
Them old guys come from there.
Hey, Mr. J. Blue lightning himself.
No, he had that.
Remember, he put the gun behind the bucket.
Yeah, he had to that beer.
Yeah.
Well, I mean.
big old pot of beer.
Yeah, it was beer.
It was like a bucket of beer.
And then he said, Mr.
Chain Blue Lightning himself.
We got us Joshua Wells, you know.
Of course, then after they back.
That's the one where he said, giving them them pistols butt first, you know,
so he had them late.
I mean, he had the butts out there and he's flipped them around and shot him.
You know what I liked about that, though, is he readjusted.
Because I was like, the Clint Eastwell, when he does movies, he goes for the details.
Because I thought as a shooter, I'm a shooter,
he wanted to throw in that he he gave a little adjustment in his hands because that's what
if you're fixing to flip them and shoot that was your key they should have thought why is he
why is he doing that because if i was sitting there with a gun on and i saw somebody do that
think he's giving up but uh bottom line is i kind of liked him because every time he would leave
two or three of them dead he'd spit up he'd get a little chill chill that day he's work puya
upside in his part he did that on that guy too let's take another break you know so one of our
listeners sent me a picture it's in a museum somewhere i want to say it's in missouri but uh of the
maybe it's california yeah you said it to me yeah two rubber the two pistols they're made out
of rubber oh really yeah and uh but they look just like a real gun but it's the ones he used
in the in the movie somebody's got it somewhere on display the pistols of for outlawed
Josie Wales
or some museum somewhere.
My favorite part of that scene
is at the end
because, you know,
the storekeeper had ratted him out
and they were trying to make a deal.
That's what I,
and now it became uncomfortable
because they're all dead.
All your guys that you threw in cahoots with,
so he's a little.
While they had him under the gun,
the shopkeeper said,
hey, I saw him first.
I deserve some of this too.
Yeah, give me.
And so Eastwell was like,
so you say them horses belong to them,
their pilgrims.
if you haven't seen we told you we warned you if you haven't seen that movie you need to go watch that
thank us later yeah obviously we watched it a few times yeah but what i was going to say about
the metal detecting which because i was you know i called all my metal detecting friends we're all
giddy i'm sending pictures you know murray he's he's cackling you know about the because i told him
the tale everybody was happy except missy
because she was like...
She's worried about the wedding at the beginning.
Well, she...
Because when I said it looks fantastic, phenomenal,
which it does.
And the grass will grow back.
There's a couple of dirt spots there, all right?
But I'm on metal detect it while there.
Well, then when I found the coin, I sent her the picture.
Because she was like, wow.
Where did you find that?
I was like, in the dirt spot.
And so then I said, look, babe, I got an idea.
We have a weed problem anyway.
I was like, let's just...
combine the whole thing.
Take up all the grass.
Okay.
It went over like a turn to punch boat.
I said, we'll put it back.
I'll metal detect it.
We can sell that as like, hey, or whatever.
And then we'll just replace it.
Yeah.
No, no.
She said, boy, I was excited for you.
And now you're talking crazy.
But what I wanted to say is why I got into that is in Luke 15,
Because I was introduced to it by Mary, and I've told that story before.
But in Luke 15, which is my...
How's Murray doing?
Because we've talked about it.
He's fantastic.
His cancer stuff's all good.
It is.
He's technically, we always say technically cancer-free.
Of course, as a believer, you know, he got cancer, and he never missed a beat.
He is like, because I was with him, the reason I got into metal detecting, he introduced me to it,
but it was kind of frustrating to learn.
And a lot of you say, oh, you know, I'm thinking about doing that.
look, it's frustrating at first because there's things going off in your head and it's tough.
But I got the experience because he would call me after he would get back from chemo or whatever
and he'd be like, man, I got to get out there.
And so what am I going to do?
Now, I'd clear the calendar and we'd go and just, and we, he's a prayer warrior.
So we'd stop and pray, you know, before we eat, but it was just, you know, you got a guy here battling cancer and we're out here
looking at God's creation, looking for lost things.
And every time he finds something, he's like,
thank you, Lord.
He's just happy to be alive.
And so we got to be really, really close.
But I'm telling you, that was what?
I guess going on two years ago.
And now he's doing fantastic, phenomenal.
So it's awesome.
But I wanted to read this because I think I've done a little bit of this before,
but it's exciting to me.
Luke 15 is my favorite chapter in the Bible because Jesus was eating with tax collectors and sinners
and they were persecuting him for it.
They're like, that was supposed to be some religious guy.
Look at who he's eating with.
And so Jesus told them, because it said they were muttering about that,
he told them three stories, which the most famous one is the last one,
which is they call it the parable, the lost son, which it should.
It should be the parable of the...
Older brother.
Of the grateful father.
How about that?
Or the older brother,
because the older brother is really the focal point
of the guy who couldn't accept the guy.
That's right.
But the father is the hero, in my opinion.
I mean, because forgiveness.
So, and the first one is, you know,
they've written songs about it.
Wouldn't a guy, if he had a hundred sheep,
if he lost one, wouldn't he go find it?
Which the math, I would probably say,
I don't know, but if you really care for the sheep that you would.
So Jesus is telling the story.
He's basically a human detector, if you think about it.
That's true.
Because all three stories, he was searching,
which is what we read last podcast when he said,
in John 15, we said, don't get the idea that you chose me.
I chose you.
For some reason, Jesus wants us to make sure we get that point.
This is not about you.
One of the points that comes out of there is, in my mind,
it's the worth of a human being.
That's right.
I mean, you have one that's straight off over there.
Oh, Jesus said, you find him.
That's right.
You go get you.
And what you love about is he didn't, you know, he blew.
It's showing our worth.
And he had blown half his inheritance.
You know, he had split the inheritance with it.
He gave him what he had.
he went down there and just blew it all for nothing.
Oh, yeah.
And he comes back.
Ended up in a hog pen.
Right.
And so what I love about it is that shows you how much God says, look, I know you're a mess.
Yeah.
I know, I know you're a mess, but I still love you anyway, you know.
I mean, he met him on the road, which is pretty amazing.
Oh, it is amazing.
And so sandwiched in between the story that gets no love.
No love.
You just, that's the skip over.
It's a skip.
It's being redundant.
No, wait a minute.
Because yesterday, when I found this, you know the first thing I thought of?
This story.
Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one.
This is silver.
Yep.
Somebody had some silver coins and they lost one.
I love it.
I just love it.
Back in chills right now.
1893.
Does she not light a lamp?
Sweet, because I was out there at dark yesterday.
Sweet things.
She's searching carefully until she finds it.
Now, here's what the point I want to make.
And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbors together and says,
Rejoiced with me, I found my lost coin.
I called my metal detective buddy, my wife.
There was joy here.
We were happy.
We were kidding.
You were living out this bad.
Hang on, let's take the break.
So here's the key.
Then verse 10 says, in the same way,
I tell you there is rejoicing in the purpose.
presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents, who changes. And so I thought of all the
things to equate with joy on earth and heaven. He chose finding your lost sheep, finding a
lost coin, reconciling family. And I thought, well, it must be fun or he wouldn't be using
that as an illustration. Yep. This is accurate. And he has, there's a party, the idea, because there's
rejoicing, there's a party when something is lost is found.
On earth and in heaven.
And in heaven.
When it comes to people.
Because it was about human detection.
It all started with it.
Of course you could add to that, as it turns out, sometimes you see one person,
but when that one person who seemed like one out of millions, I mean, what are you doing,
what about him?
But through one person, you can, you can, you can.
make historical, he can turn out to be something that it's a historical figure,
but you never would have thought it when you first ran up on him.
Or it could be like in your case, Dad, you became, you were a prodigal for, you know, 10 years.
Yep.
And then you became one who then found thousands.
Thousands of people.
Because you were willing then.
So that's the, who would have thought?
Who would have thought?
You know what I like about this?
It never entered my mind.
I can tell you that.
No, you aren't even thinking that way.
I'd be running around, waving a Bible around.
Neither was I.
Are you crazy?
It just never occurred to me.
So when I tell this, when I tell my story, when I'm out on the road, I talk about coming back,
because we've talked about this week about the crowbar and all that.
But when I came back and I tell a story, you know, you and mom met me, which was very similar
to this story because I was the prodigal.
True.
You met me out in the yard.
And it was just like this situation.
there was no judgment.
I was expecting, you know, here's the rules, here's what it's going to be.
And you were just like, hey, we got that calls to be.
I'm glad you're home.
You pull up in the yard and here comes your parents.
Yeah.
Saying, welcome, welcome home.
And I'd been gone.
I was AWOL for two years.
And what's interesting is when I tell the story, I always say,
and we kill the fat and catfish and had a celebration because the lost son had come home,
which it always gets to laugh because, you know, they kill the fat and calf in this story.
But it was true.
I mean, we literally lived this story out in me.
Of course, the same thing with you.
And how to fish fry?
What I like about what Jesus did here with telling these stories
is he basically, you're looking at it from the coin's perspective
because we never think about it.
Oh, it's a cool coin.
It's worth.
I don't know what it's worth.
Probably $100.
I'm not going to sell it.
Because it's just a piece of silver.
But for humans, you just think if you're buried
in a dark place lost
and all of a sudden you're uncovered
you're like thank you
Jesus. If the coin could speak
is like you know you're talking about
I have literally been doing nothing
like getting dirt thrown on my hand
but for us
which I think that's the analogy though
you're in a pit you're lost
it's dark you're in pain
your ostracized from the rest of any kind of meaningful life.
And then he detects you.
He finds you and cleans you out.
Well, it's like there's a friend of mine named Kenny that was listening to the podcast.
He lives in North Carolina.
And so back there early in the pandemic, he was like, he had been listening to the podcast.
He was like, man, I'm just, I'm ready to go all in.
You know, and he likes to play poker.
So that was the way he used his phrase.
He said, I'm partially in, but I'm not all in.
You know, and so he said, you know, and he came down here and you and I, you baptized him.
And it was funny because he, it was his birthday and he had a, he had a camouflage shirt that his, he has, he owns a restaurant chain.
He had a camouflage shirt that his staff had given it. And it had the date on it. And it was like, my, my birthday and my new birthday is what it said on it. And he ended on a shirt. It was really an interesting thing. And it was just like what you were saying. And so he and I have stayed in contact. And he just.
told me this week he said i can't believe you guys got another hurricane coming i was like i mean sometimes
you're just like well you know what's happening but you just got to you know batting down and hatchet
he said look i got a place in orlando just come stay up my you know go down there and stay take your
grandkids but i just thought here's a guy that like i didn't know six months ago and now because
of what we're doing here it awakened his mind and his heart and now he is on fire i mean this
guy's going to reach a lot of people well that's why i'm bringing this up because i know that
John 15, it's a hard passage to wrap your head around when it says, you didn't choose me,
but I chose you.
That's why I said when you look at it from a metal detecting viewpoint, which where the
thing he's detecting, you then kind of get it.
Right.
Because you're not getting out of the ground without him saying, let me, I'm going to find you.
I'm going to cleanse you.
I'm going to resurrect you.
You're just lost, which is why he's telling the story on, in Luke.
of why he's at a table with tax collectors and centers.
Every Sunday morning now, I go to make the loop.
And all I want to, I'm just asking them, where are y'all from?
Where y'all from?
Where are y'all from?
And they start naming the states.
And it's amazing from the east coast to the west coast to the Canada, including the Canadians.
I always tell the Canadians, I said, every time I see a bunch of mallard ducks coming,
or we stop and sing the Canadian National Anthem.
And we got a lot of Canadian listeners, too.
A lot of Canadians.
They listen to our podcast.
And I go around to find out where they're all from.
And I thought, man, they come and many of them when I say, why did you come this far?
They said, God sent me.
God sent me.
God sent me.
Well, I have to give a Canadian some credit because the reason I thought about bringing,
because I didn't think about doing this today.
but I was
actually looking up
somebody sent me a link
that said
because we had brought this up
this controversy over Netflix
and the
whatever that movie was
I can't remember one
Cudies
Yeah the Cudies
Well the Texas
Rangers
Well some court in Texas
Indicted Netflix for
And you know you can read it
Somebody sent me the link
That's a dance in is that
Yeah
Yeah and the Texas
Rangers went to Netflix and served the
whatever, you know, yeah.
Yeah, and I'm like, good for them.
Oh, I'm great.
We don't, and what was amazing,
so I was looking up, I was trying to see where that was.
And what's amazing when I was reading that on the social media,
most of the people, most people were like, thank you, Jesus.
We love, I'm proud.
I mean, yeah, we're not going to take,
you know, kids and
and show them in a...
Sexual exploitation of children.
And it's not like I wouldn't forgive Netflix
or, but when you're defending that,
no, I'm out.
That's what I told you.
I'm like, I canceled my Netflix.
Until further notice.
I mean, we're not endorsing that.
And you can make that argument about a bunch of stuff,
but I think 10 year old kids
shown in a provocative way, that's out.
that's universal.
So anyway, I was looking up about that,
but I looked on mine,
and somebody from Canada had said,
he said, I love y'all's podcast.
He said, and there's two reasons.
He said, I love Jesus and I love metal detector.
I actually responded.
I don't remember what I said.
I think I said something about Jesus is the human detector.
Is the ultimate.
Let's take one last break.
Well, since we're here,
and we're kind of at the end of the podcast,
I want to mention the older brother
because you've told the story
because in this kind of a warning to me
to like church folks
because he's in the story
it's the Jewish leadership, the Pharisees
that Jesus, that's the older brother
because they're like he's eating with these sinners
and they're like well I mean
who wants to hang around with these filthy
people? That's their mindset
but you come forward a couple of thousand
years and sometimes that's
the way people still think.
Oh, yeah.
They got it, we got our church, we got our place we go.
You know, we're meeting here.
We don't want any of these stinky people coming in and messing up our little, you know,
spiritual club.
And don't you think they were, he was saying they were representing the very first verse,
the people that was grumbling.
Right.
Yeah, he's eating one tax collectors.
So really, as much, the focal point of the story is really more about that guy,
because that's Jesus making his point.
You know, he's doing it his typical way.
He does it.
He tells three different stories here.
And every one of them ends with joy over loss being found.
But the older brother was not joyful.
Remember, he heard the party going on.
He was like, what's happening here?
And they're saying, oh, you know, the lost son has come home.
We're having a big party.
And he grumbles about it.
Yeah.
He's like, well, I never had a party for me, you know.
Me and my friends, we don't even get a goat, much less, you know.
And he told all this elaborate story in response.
to one question. That's right. How come you're eating with them? And, you know, all right. I mean,
to me, that's the, that's what separates Jesus from every other religious representative ever.
Right. How come you're eating with them, all right? And then he tells those three stories.
That's right. It's incredible. And you'd had the same thing happen back in Luke seven whenever the woman was at his feet.
Remember? And he was in a Pharisee's home.
you know and the Pharisees like he thinks to him and says he thought to himself you know that this guy
knew if he was really a prophet he wouldn't be hanging around this letting this woman you know make this
display he just thought it and Jesus says Simon I got a little something to ask you well if you want
to tie a bunch of verses together if you get if you have a pencil handy you'll need one
just just watch this this is about I'll do this quickly John chapter one that
Now, we're going back, we've covered this over the last few months.
Through Him, Jesus, verse 3, 1-3, through Him, all things were made.
Without Him, nothing was made.
He has been made.
In Him was life.
That life, and this goes all the way to John 15, was the light of men.
The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.
Speaking of back then and now, Al, there came a man who was sent from God.
Here's John the Baptist.
His name was John.
as a witness to testify concerning that light so through him all men might believe.
He himself was not the light, John the Baptist.
He came only as a witness to the light.
The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.
This was a huge, the greatest event of all time.
He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.
he came to that which of his own, the Jews,
but his own did not receive him,
yet to all who received him,
those who believed in his name,
he gave him the right to become children of God.
Children born, not of natural descent.
You've got to be born again,
nor of human decision or a husband's will,
but born of God and the word became flesh.
You start right there,
and you jump over to John 3.
God's the low of the world, everybody in it.
He gave his only begotten son,
whoever believes in him won't perish,
what's this he said look god did not send his son into the world to condemn the world down to the
last nickel or last sheep for every last one of them but to save the world through him
whoever believes in is not condemned whoever does not believe in him is condemned already
he's not believed in the name of god's one and only son this is the verdict he's back on it
again light has come into the world but men love
darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Everyone who does evil hates the light and will not come into the light for fear that
his deeds be exposed.
But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light so that what may be done plainly
what he's done is done through him the light.
So you get to that one.
That's John 1.
That's John 3.
Then you've got like John 812.
Before you read that, you know what I thought?
It's like I never thought about this before,
do you read that?
But I'm uncovering that old coin and you bring it into the light.
Yep.
And the first thing people notice is they're looking for how many imperfections it has.
Because now, of course, before it came into the light,
it's nothing.
That's it.
Nothing to anybody, anywhere.
It's insignificant.
Everything and everybody at some point is lost and hopefully found.
But many of them, no.
So you get to John 8.
He's still on that same topic.
I'm the light of the world.
Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.
So that's John 1.
That's John 3.
This is John 8.
You turn one page.
You get to John chapter 9, verse 5.
while I'm in the world, I am the light of the world.
You turn two more pages after John 9, you get to John 12.
You say, why has he been so redundant?
So you can't miss it.
12.25.
Let's see.
1225.
Yeah.
The man who loves his life will lose it for the man who hates his life in this world
will keep it for eternal life.
Whoever serves me will follow me.
where I am, but servant also will be.
He'll honor the one who serves me.
Then he talked about Father.
He said, this is going to be a tough deal.
What am I going to do?
35 is where I think, I think 30.
I'm down to 27, just leading into it.
It was for this very reason I came to this hour, the lights in the world.
You look on down below there, this voice for you, was for your benefit, not mine.
Now is the time for judgment on this world.
The prince of this world, the devil, will be driven out.
But when I'm lifted up from the earth, I will draw all men to myself.
He showed what kind of death he was going to do.
Then down in the 35, you're going to have the light just a little while longer.
Think about it.
Jesus didn't save it 33 years.
That's not long by anybody's count.
Walk while you have the light before darkness overtakes you.
And the man who walks in the dark does not know where he's going.
put your trust in the light, why you have it,
so that you may become sons of light.
And from there, all the way through,
John 1235, John 12, 46,
then you get over in Ephesans where you were rescued,
brought out of darkness into light,
therefore live as children of light.
My point is, there's a lot in the book of John
to introduce the light of the world.
Immortality is riding on it.
And if you miss it and you are not found and at some point, you don't step out of the darkness and into the light.
There'll be, you shouldn't worry about the ones who can kill your body.
That's right.
Want to get body and soul in hell.
He said, there's the one you worry about.
So that's why dad is the bullpen closer.
Hey.
Perfect way to end the podcast.
Seek the light.
Let's get in that light and stay there.
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