Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 161 | Jase's New Treasure-Hunting Finds, the Netflix Indictment, and Jesus the Human Detector

Episode Date: October 13, 2020

Jase is giddy over the 127-year-old coin he found after a hurricane uprooted a magnolia tree on his property, but Missy isn't thrilled about Jase's next metal-detecting idea. Phil, Jase, and Al talk a...bout uncovering lost treasure in God's creation, why Jesus spent time with sinners, the Netflix indictment, and seeking the light of the world. And Jase reveals how he ended up growing a tree in the back of his truck. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? Feeling good today. I'm almost giddy. Because yesterday we were... I thought this was going to be because you got back from Texas from your conjugal visit with your wife. Well, yeah. Is that what got you getting? Yeah, that's always good. But yesterday, you know, we did some podcasts.
Starting point is 00:00:27 I've been back. This was what the second day? And I was talking on the phone to my wife, Missy, because I was going out to our old place that we, basically, she has a big wedding out there at our old plantation place. Because that we turned into a venue. Which, by the way, so from what I hear, I mean, a lot of people are booking. That thing's booked up for like, wrecks.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Hurricane hit, and everybody said, let's go to Port Louisiana and hang out. It is a beautiful place. I mean, it is amazing out there. Well, thank you. And so, well, we had a hurricane hit. So she's like, we had the biggest tree we had on our property went down. I'd say half the trees were damaged in some way. We're talking about trees, too, that are hundreds of years old.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Hundreds. I mean. Them big oak trees out there have been there a while. I mean, I guarantee you. Over this piece of property, we got right over here, the maps right there. Hundreds, hundreds. trees hit the ground. I mean, the estimates I got were like, oh, well,
Starting point is 00:01:36 because I know they pulled up and thought, we're going to need a bigger saw. Yeah, by the way, I kept it in context. And when you get on the floor of these woods we have over here, I would say these are roughly a couple hundred years old, the timber. But that's a pretty good size oak trees. It's almost as old as our country. That's right.
Starting point is 00:01:56 So Thomas Jefferson and that group he sent up through here, to see what he had purchased for $15 million, the Louisiana purchase. He sent a group up here looking around and see him at the good, and they sent back, finally got word back to him that this thing floods a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:13 You go, I don't know, you don't want a farm this thing. You know what they also said? They were looking at the watermarks way up there. You know what they also said? A lot of blood-sucking flies. A lot of blood-sucking flies that it really gets you. But anyway, all that timber over there, I saw there's hundreds of them on the ground,
Starting point is 00:02:31 but as it turns out, I'm looking at it. I always look at it from a spiritual view. I just noticed the floor of that forest over there. It's right down here about a couple of miles over there. The floor, as far as you could see, you know, and I'm looking until you can't see, but I'm looking half miles. I'm looking way down through the wood.
Starting point is 00:02:58 big timber, open wood. You don't see very many of them anymore. They've cut them off. They cut them off. But I just looked, and the floor over there, there is an oak sapling. Every three quarters of an inch, it's like you planted your grass in the yard, but these are oak trees. It is oak trees, and they're this tall.
Starting point is 00:03:24 They're about. About a foot. They're seedlings. It's about eight inches. They're eight inches tall as far as you can see. So I'm looking at the trees that are down through there, and I'm looking at what's going to replace them. And I'm thinking, no worries here.
Starting point is 00:03:39 You go out to wait a while a couple hundred years before it all comes back. We'll be long ago. But the timber is going to replace itself without me planting anything. It's all there coming back. One of the things my wife, when we were dating. Hundreds goes down and thousands come back up. tens of thousands to take its place. One of the things she thought was interesting about my life
Starting point is 00:04:01 is because I was cutting firewood at the time when we were dating. I remember the firewood stage. Oh, yeah. I cut it long enough. Your old Williams. Yeah, to realize that I need to do something else long term. Now you do it for exercise. I had a tree because, you know, you get dirt, debris in your truck
Starting point is 00:04:19 because I was using the back of my truck, and we would do like seven, eight loads. But I had, from all that, I had a, a pinn oak tree begin to grow in the back of my trunk. And so once I saw it, I was like, because I had just gotten out of the firewood business. I was like, I'm going to see how long this thing grew up. By the way, too, me and you, that was pre-surge on the duck calls, pre-television. That was pre-everything.
Starting point is 00:04:50 I'm just telling you right now, it was a good call that you didn't get into the wood-cutting business son. Yeah. But I did. The future there was, uh, no, no, you stayed the course. But it did give me some skills that, oh yeah, like that I can help my neighbors. Like, but during a hurricane, I mean, I basically saw it up everybody's trees. You had to make a chainsaw hand out of you.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Oh, yeah. You get good with. Of course now. Your buddy that you were with, I went down there in a moment of weakness. I finally got him corralled. I wanted to use his particular skill set. and really the muscle power. Boy, he had done it from birth.
Starting point is 00:05:31 He looked at me and had a chan saw in his hand. And I said, I said, it won't take us 30 minutes. I was talking about a six-month job, and I said, it won't take a 30 minutes, Sir Williams. I said, we need to cut these trees down to make us a hole for our duck hole. And he looked at me, and he said,
Starting point is 00:05:49 we rule these woods. I said, now that is the kind of redneck you want on your side. He just rode him like, We rule these woods. I'm going to tell you, that guy worked. The reason I was in business with it, he worked like three men. I mean, just a beast.
Starting point is 00:06:06 And he, when he, when he, because he taught me how to split wood. People say, oh, that, what are you talking about? He taught you. That Joker starts at one end of the tree, and he never picks up anything. He swings around a light mall. He couldn't see what I was already looking at.
Starting point is 00:06:24 I was looking at a big, big block of woods there, and I was going to make about a three-acre lake out of the whole thing. Well, I could already see it, but he didn't know why we were cutting them. I just said, we fixed to take this whole woods out, and I said, you cut them, and I'll haul them. So he was cutting them into the lengths I could pick up. I was about, that's been 25 years ago. That's probably been 30 years ago.
Starting point is 00:06:51 30 years ago. So I was a younger buck. That's about y'all's age. But anyway, I'm picking them up and carrying them or putting them in a pile, and I'm burning them as he's cutting them. And look, we went down through there, and I'm not kidding. And one day, you looked up and there was an opening there. Well, now, 30 years later, you pull up out there.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Everyone thinks it's just a natural lake. Yeah. We made that. We took all them trees out, and I dug all the dirt up to make the levee to hold the water. Yeah, but you wore my guy out so much. Then we stopped cutting fire. He told me later, he said, I said, remember when you said, we rule leaves wood. And he fired that thing up.
Starting point is 00:07:29 He said, I never got over it. Well, you know what, and to wrap his story up, so you didn't know this at the time, but he's a genius. Like Williams is highly intelligent. And he's a computer, an IT guru. It's one of my inner circles. We joined the Air Force, and that's where he learned. Yeah, he's been, he's still active. You know, he's over at Barcliffe's.
Starting point is 00:07:53 He's a great guy. He's a biblical theologian inner circle. He knows the Bible. You can call him up at any time or send him a text and say, I was reading and just pick a chapter, Old Testament or New. That's correct. What do you think? There's no, he's going to go research it.
Starting point is 00:08:11 I'll get back to you. It's an immediate response, which is, which is you think about. You say, well, how does a guy know that much Bible? He studies it. There's no magic formula there. You know, because you're like, how would you even attempt to do that? So anyway, I was going there to check out and see if they had cleaned it up. We had trouble, obviously, fine.
Starting point is 00:08:36 By the way, how long did the pinn oak grow in the back of your truck? Oh, yeah. It got big enough to where it became uncomfortable. But, look, people would gather up. Most people don't manicure and raise a tree. Now that's a redneck. You might be further than a redneck. I had it for over a year growing.
Starting point is 00:09:01 It became a small sapling. And look, you know what I did? I actually relocated it when we lived out there by Max. So it lives on. It still lives on. It lives on. And you said you don't hug trees. That's right.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I've been saying you're like an environmentalist. You could go out to California with that story like that. I never hugged it. I'll hug my kids. They converted you. No, I hug my kids, but trees don't need hugs. I got that. So I'm driving out there to check it out for Missy,
Starting point is 00:09:32 because she's like, oh, we got this wedding. She's like, I want you to, if you don't mind, go look and see if they cleaned it up. Well, I pulled up there, and I was like, because you got to remember last time I saw it, it looked like a war zone with all the trees there were. And I was like, it's awesome. because what I was thinking, I saw the two biggest trees in the front yard. It was just a big dirt spot where they had been.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Where the roots pile out. Well, and where the tree fell, I mean, this tree is so big. I can't even embellish. I mean, y'all know, if you don't have any idea, I mean, just think of the biggest tree you've ever seen in your life. Well, when it hit, it made multiple holes in the ground. Yep. because it's so big.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Wasn't it a magnolia tree? Yeah, it was the biggest magnolia tree I've ever seen. Me too. And I've seen it's a big one. So what they did was... That's Louisiana's a state tree. Because she was like, really? It looks good.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And Mississippi. But here's what I was thinking. Because they had to move that dirt around, so I'm sure they got them, whatever. You know, because they not only cut the tree up, they left, it was just the dirt spot, level. one filled in the hole but you know what I was thinking they disturbed the ground I thought I thought I need to run a metal detector over that even though I've hunted it hundreds of times in my
Starting point is 00:11:02 front yard so really she was getting a wrong message because she was like well how did they not mess up the ground I was like oh it's a big dirt spot the size of four vehicles she was like oh no I was like no looking for trinkets some guy and his girlfriend in about 1840 might have been out there, you know, relaxing against that magnolia tree. That's right. So I had told you on the last podcast, I had visited Garrett, and I didn't have the new one they gave me, but they had given me a prototype before.
Starting point is 00:11:34 So I was like, because it was right for Dart. And so I pulled up in the yard, which was cool. I didn't even park in the driveway. I just pulled over there because I could see where they had done it to clean up the trees. Yeah. And I got that, I didn't even have earphones on. So it's like making noise.
Starting point is 00:11:51 It's kind of embarrassing, like people going out of beach. It's not for me. So I literally walk 10 feet into the bear spot in a place I've hunted hundreds of times. And it went, bloop, bloop, bloop. And so I looked down, well, it was the number of silver. You know, it has a number on there. And it was basically the number for a quarter or a half dollar. I was like, there's no one.
Starting point is 00:12:19 So these things are so sophisticated, you can tell what kind of metal it is. Oh, yeah. Well, because the number and the sound, I'm matching them up. And it was set of 84. Well, 84 on this Garrett model is a silver quarter. Now, sometimes I've seen that, and it's something that was kind of the equivalent, maybe a piece of brass that was the size of a quarter. So, but I'm like, and I didn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I was like, there's no way. because I thought I might find a penny but a silver quarter I mean that's like going on it's like the fireworks going off in your head so I'm like I didn't even have my shovel I walked back got my shovel I just I put the detector
Starting point is 00:13:04 down there I was like that's what it says and it's fresh dirt maybe I missed it and they turned the dirt over maybe they uncovered it I dug my little hole plopped it out Bam. Exhibit A, if you're listening.
Starting point is 00:13:21 What year? Wow. 1893. Silver quarter. Look how good a shape it is. Wow, that thing is. What is it worth in today's? It's priceless.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Huh? Priceless. I don't want to know. Everything got a price. I didn't look it up because I didn't want it to be worth a lot because I would never sell that. So it was a nickel? No, a quarter. Is that a quarter?
Starting point is 00:13:46 Who's that? It's smaller than the old quarter. Who's that on the thing? I don't know. I'd have to ask for it. Yeah, that's been here a long time. He's got a ponytail, though. Yeah, 1893.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Yeah. I think it's that old British singer nod in him. Now, think about that. So there's a couple things here. It looks like a, hang on jazz. Let's take a break. So there's a couple things here. One, this is a hundred and twenty-seven years old.
Starting point is 00:14:22 That's amazing. Whoever lost this, he's dead. Oh, yeah. And look, he didn't mean to lose this. But he was up under that magnolia tree. He had to have reached in his pocket whatever or been lounging back with his girlfriend. I'm going back to the guy and the girlfriend because magnolia tree.
Starting point is 00:14:42 And it's close to the river. Let's talk. And because something, he reached in his pocket to get something. And he dropped that quarter. He dropped that quarter, but not knowing it. And look, a quarter in 1893, that was a lot of money. Yeah, I'd open a lot of doors. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:59 So then, of course, then I hunted until slap dark. Every piece of that. No, I did find this, which I thought was unusual. It's some type. So do you think when they did that, they dug that, that was deeper down? Yeah. Or they just, the grass was not giving me a good seat. Because the grass was real thick there.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I just wasn't getting the signal because it wasn't that I hadn't hunting. because it wasn't that I hadn't hunted there. I've hunted in that area more than any place, and I've had professionals in there. Therefore, to sum it up, when a tree falls, it's like me. I found a tree fell across the road and blocked me off, so I had a chainsaw with me.
Starting point is 00:15:42 We carry them with us all the time. It's like standard equipment. So I got out there. That's another Louisiana. Bloodsucking flies, and everybody's got a chainsaw. I was cutting the tree up off the road. and the pieces I could pick up, I'd say the tree was like this.
Starting point is 00:15:56 It was actually a big limb off of, what is it's a cottonwood. It's a big limb of it. Well, I cut about halfway through it, and I picked up one, I was cutting them in the lengths about like that, and I threw it over in the ditch, and I just kept in, I got about halfway,
Starting point is 00:16:14 and I looked down, and a Indian, a, a stone axe. And I looked at it, I said, that's a Tommy Hawk head. It was like the head. It was sharp, you know, come to a point. But I reached down and picked it up, and my hand fit perfectly. They had used it so long.
Starting point is 00:16:40 It was some kind of tanning thing that they took. Where was this out? Right over in the middle of the road, right where you turn left at George Franklin's Gate. Well, I need to go over there. Yeah, there's an Indian camp. You used to camp there because I found the shales. Why are we just now bringing this up?
Starting point is 00:16:59 We've been here 40 years. I've been metal detecting. I'm widening your looking your chances. But anyway, I picked that thing up and I said, what in the world? I said, how could that? And I just got to looking at it. It had come out of that tree, old tree. and this was a limb that broke off.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Somehow, because the day before, I've been driving through there for, you know, 10 years. But the stone axe was not there. It wasn't down in the ground. It was just lying there on top of the ground. So you think it was in that tree? It was in the tree. The tree had gone around it.
Starting point is 00:17:38 And when the tree hit, it'd be falling out. Where is this act? Well, I come along there, throw it, cut the tree out, and this stone axe, I still have it on my mantle at the house. I show it to people, and they're like, Where in the world did you get that? How have I never seen it? I mean, we need, as soon as this is over, I'm going to...
Starting point is 00:17:56 I don't go around showing people my rock. I'm yours. He doesn't break as soon as this is over, I'm going to look at this. And then you've got to know where, because there's probably some other stuff there. Your boys are inquisitive enough. You can come up with all kinds of stuff. I can show you where these Indians camped. I know where their camps are because I see them shells.
Starting point is 00:18:17 They piled up muscle sheds. that the women, the women would go get the muscles, bring it up for a meal, and they might have roast them over the fire, or they cooked them or just ate them raw. But our idea of oysters, these are freshwater... So it's a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:34 It's not metal. That's why I've never done Indian things because they didn't use metal. No. No. But the boats, when they looked down the river one morning, you know, I would say 1600s. They looked down the river and they saw a paddle boat coming with some strange-looking people.
Starting point is 00:18:51 And they're paddling up that way. And they're like, these were friendly Indians, by the way, the Wasatahals and there's some more of them. But when they looked and saw that first boat, they thought, who in the world? I'd probably scared the daylights out of them. Sure. Well, these guys pulled over. You know, they'd trade them some stuff. And that's how.
Starting point is 00:19:10 So when I was in college. It was the arrival. It was actually the beginning of the end, but none of them knew it. The diseases they brought and all of the stuff. The wars. Probably 40 miles and less than that as the crow flies from here, this poverty point around Delhai. So whenever I was in college.
Starting point is 00:19:28 It's a little bit of a ridge. Yeah. That place, you go back far enough, the way my professor described it, that thing was the trading center, I mean, like huge. I mean, people coming down the river, see it, coming over from the Mississippi River. So that thing, they were trading all the way up to Wisconsin and Minnesota. They were coming down. I mean, that's how big that area is over there.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I've hunted the friend. Think about it. We're down in Louisiana here. I mean, you know, the biggest hill we have is not very tall. 728 feet. There are no rock outcroppings. That stone axe, oh, it did not come from Louisiana. Somebody transported that from way up there somewhere.
Starting point is 00:20:12 We don't have rocks like that. We don't have rocks like that. That was traded. And what's weird as I thought Phil was going. going to comment that in 1893 they had a ponytail on this guy's
Starting point is 00:20:25 on a coin. What do you think about that? The Almighty, it's just like whiskers, I guess. The old coots, you know. I do like that... I don't know who was the president in 93. I don't know, but it does say. Jefferson and those guys are about 1800, so it was about
Starting point is 00:20:45 93 years, about five could have been... Well, Teddy Roosevelt was right around 19th century. Somebody right now is... Stonewall Jackson, when with old Jackson was about number seven? Somebody is screaming this in their car because they know the answer.
Starting point is 00:20:58 That's right. But I do like in 1893 that above his head it says, in God we trust. Yeah, which is awesome. I also found this, which I don't know what it is. That's why.
Starting point is 00:21:09 It says it has a 50 on it. And when you feel it, you can tell, it's the same material they make tokens out of, it's some kind of token. And it says, Patten applied for at the bottom.
Starting point is 00:21:23 But I don't know what it is. If anybody out there is listening, we'll get a picture. Now on the back, it doesn't really have anything, but I don't know what that is. It says 50. It says 50, and it says, I had to get a magnifying glass at the bottom. It says Pat applied for. It's about the size of a penny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:43 What do you make of that? You know, I don't know. Patten applied for? Yeah, so they said they were going to be the only one to had that. I don't know. So it can't be a coin. It's not a coin. But it's some material.
Starting point is 00:21:58 It was, for you metal detectors, it came up like a 74 on that Garrett machine. It's got 50 on it. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the 50 is. And it's got little designs on it. It's not in the greatest to shape, but. So anyway. That thing may be worth $2 million.
Starting point is 00:22:18 no no it's not because it's the wrong material but it's priceless so i've said you think about it i mean that's been there i but say what 150 200 years i don't know i don't think this is that old i think it's probably i'm guessing because i found similar types i'd think this was probably in the 1920s or 30s maybe still a hundred years ago oh yeah 100 years but it's but it's It's not this. This is the 1893. Whoa. In spectacular, well, not mint, but it's as fine of a quarter that I've seen, even on the internet when I was looking it up,
Starting point is 00:23:03 I didn't see any that had been circulated that looks this good. So don't make me an offer because it's not for sale. You don't do it for the money, Josh. I mean, it's not mine. Remember that? What am I quoting here? It's not mine. that's outlawed jersey well.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Oh, yeah. Remember when he came in, he was trying to buy the squaw. Oh, yeah. He's like, she doesn't belong. She works here. Yeah. That little smooth way of, of course. Put her on that bill, too, you know.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And then he was there, and they came up there. And he's like, they knew who he was. Them old guys come from there. Hey, Mr. J. Blue lightning himself. No, he had that. Remember, he put the gun behind the bucket. Yeah, he had to that beer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Well, I mean. big old pot of beer. Yeah, it was beer. It was like a bucket of beer. And then he said, Mr. Chain Blue Lightning himself. We got us Joshua Wells, you know. Of course, then after they back.
Starting point is 00:23:57 That's the one where he said, giving them them pistols butt first, you know, so he had them late. I mean, he had the butts out there and he's flipped them around and shot him. You know what I liked about that, though, is he readjusted. Because I was like, the Clint Eastwell, when he does movies, he goes for the details. Because I thought as a shooter, I'm a shooter, he wanted to throw in that he he gave a little adjustment in his hands because that's what if you're fixing to flip them and shoot that was your key they should have thought why is he
Starting point is 00:24:30 why is he doing that because if i was sitting there with a gun on and i saw somebody do that think he's giving up but uh bottom line is i kind of liked him because every time he would leave two or three of them dead he'd spit up he'd get a little chill chill that day he's work puya upside in his part he did that on that guy too let's take another break you know so one of our listeners sent me a picture it's in a museum somewhere i want to say it's in missouri but uh of the maybe it's california yeah you said it to me yeah two rubber the two pistols they're made out of rubber oh really yeah and uh but they look just like a real gun but it's the ones he used in the in the movie somebody's got it somewhere on display the pistols of for outlawed
Starting point is 00:25:19 Josie Wales or some museum somewhere. My favorite part of that scene is at the end because, you know, the storekeeper had ratted him out and they were trying to make a deal. That's what I,
Starting point is 00:25:29 and now it became uncomfortable because they're all dead. All your guys that you threw in cahoots with, so he's a little. While they had him under the gun, the shopkeeper said, hey, I saw him first. I deserve some of this too.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Yeah, give me. And so Eastwell was like, so you say them horses belong to them, their pilgrims. if you haven't seen we told you we warned you if you haven't seen that movie you need to go watch that thank us later yeah obviously we watched it a few times yeah but what i was going to say about the metal detecting which because i was you know i called all my metal detecting friends we're all giddy i'm sending pictures you know murray he's he's cackling you know about the because i told him
Starting point is 00:26:17 the tale everybody was happy except missy because she was like... She's worried about the wedding at the beginning. Well, she... Because when I said it looks fantastic, phenomenal, which it does. And the grass will grow back. There's a couple of dirt spots there, all right?
Starting point is 00:26:32 But I'm on metal detect it while there. Well, then when I found the coin, I sent her the picture. Because she was like, wow. Where did you find that? I was like, in the dirt spot. And so then I said, look, babe, I got an idea. We have a weed problem anyway. I was like, let's just...
Starting point is 00:26:49 combine the whole thing. Take up all the grass. Okay. It went over like a turn to punch boat. I said, we'll put it back. I'll metal detect it. We can sell that as like, hey, or whatever. And then we'll just replace it.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Yeah. No, no. She said, boy, I was excited for you. And now you're talking crazy. But what I wanted to say is why I got into that is in Luke 15, Because I was introduced to it by Mary, and I've told that story before. But in Luke 15, which is my... How's Murray doing?
Starting point is 00:27:26 Because we've talked about it. He's fantastic. His cancer stuff's all good. It is. He's technically, we always say technically cancer-free. Of course, as a believer, you know, he got cancer, and he never missed a beat. He is like, because I was with him, the reason I got into metal detecting, he introduced me to it, but it was kind of frustrating to learn.
Starting point is 00:27:45 And a lot of you say, oh, you know, I'm thinking about doing that. look, it's frustrating at first because there's things going off in your head and it's tough. But I got the experience because he would call me after he would get back from chemo or whatever and he'd be like, man, I got to get out there. And so what am I going to do? Now, I'd clear the calendar and we'd go and just, and we, he's a prayer warrior. So we'd stop and pray, you know, before we eat, but it was just, you know, you got a guy here battling cancer and we're out here looking at God's creation, looking for lost things.
Starting point is 00:28:23 And every time he finds something, he's like, thank you, Lord. He's just happy to be alive. And so we got to be really, really close. But I'm telling you, that was what? I guess going on two years ago. And now he's doing fantastic, phenomenal. So it's awesome.
Starting point is 00:28:41 But I wanted to read this because I think I've done a little bit of this before, but it's exciting to me. Luke 15 is my favorite chapter in the Bible because Jesus was eating with tax collectors and sinners and they were persecuting him for it. They're like, that was supposed to be some religious guy. Look at who he's eating with. And so Jesus told them, because it said they were muttering about that, he told them three stories, which the most famous one is the last one,
Starting point is 00:29:14 which is they call it the parable, the lost son, which it should. It should be the parable of the... Older brother. Of the grateful father. How about that? Or the older brother, because the older brother is really the focal point of the guy who couldn't accept the guy.
Starting point is 00:29:28 That's right. But the father is the hero, in my opinion. I mean, because forgiveness. So, and the first one is, you know, they've written songs about it. Wouldn't a guy, if he had a hundred sheep, if he lost one, wouldn't he go find it? Which the math, I would probably say,
Starting point is 00:29:47 I don't know, but if you really care for the sheep that you would. So Jesus is telling the story. He's basically a human detector, if you think about it. That's true. Because all three stories, he was searching, which is what we read last podcast when he said, in John 15, we said, don't get the idea that you chose me. I chose you.
Starting point is 00:30:11 For some reason, Jesus wants us to make sure we get that point. This is not about you. One of the points that comes out of there is, in my mind, it's the worth of a human being. That's right. I mean, you have one that's straight off over there. Oh, Jesus said, you find him. That's right.
Starting point is 00:30:32 You go get you. And what you love about is he didn't, you know, he blew. It's showing our worth. And he had blown half his inheritance. You know, he had split the inheritance with it. He gave him what he had. he went down there and just blew it all for nothing. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:48 And he comes back. Ended up in a hog pen. Right. And so what I love about it is that shows you how much God says, look, I know you're a mess. Yeah. I know, I know you're a mess, but I still love you anyway, you know. I mean, he met him on the road, which is pretty amazing. Oh, it is amazing.
Starting point is 00:31:04 And so sandwiched in between the story that gets no love. No love. You just, that's the skip over. It's a skip. It's being redundant. No, wait a minute. Because yesterday, when I found this, you know the first thing I thought of? This story.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. This is silver. Yep. Somebody had some silver coins and they lost one. I love it. I just love it. Back in chills right now. 1893.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Does she not light a lamp? Sweet, because I was out there at dark yesterday. Sweet things. She's searching carefully until she finds it. Now, here's what the point I want to make. And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbors together and says, Rejoiced with me, I found my lost coin. I called my metal detective buddy, my wife.
Starting point is 00:31:59 There was joy here. We were happy. We were kidding. You were living out this bad. Hang on, let's take the break. So here's the key. Then verse 10 says, in the same way, I tell you there is rejoicing in the purpose.
Starting point is 00:32:18 presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents, who changes. And so I thought of all the things to equate with joy on earth and heaven. He chose finding your lost sheep, finding a lost coin, reconciling family. And I thought, well, it must be fun or he wouldn't be using that as an illustration. Yep. This is accurate. And he has, there's a party, the idea, because there's rejoicing, there's a party when something is lost is found. On earth and in heaven. And in heaven. When it comes to people.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Because it was about human detection. It all started with it. Of course you could add to that, as it turns out, sometimes you see one person, but when that one person who seemed like one out of millions, I mean, what are you doing, what about him? But through one person, you can, you can, you can. make historical, he can turn out to be something that it's a historical figure, but you never would have thought it when you first ran up on him.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Or it could be like in your case, Dad, you became, you were a prodigal for, you know, 10 years. Yep. And then you became one who then found thousands. Thousands of people. Because you were willing then. So that's the, who would have thought? Who would have thought? You know what I like about this?
Starting point is 00:33:45 It never entered my mind. I can tell you that. No, you aren't even thinking that way. I'd be running around, waving a Bible around. Neither was I. Are you crazy? It just never occurred to me. So when I tell this, when I tell my story, when I'm out on the road, I talk about coming back,
Starting point is 00:34:01 because we've talked about this week about the crowbar and all that. But when I came back and I tell a story, you know, you and mom met me, which was very similar to this story because I was the prodigal. True. You met me out in the yard. And it was just like this situation. there was no judgment. I was expecting, you know, here's the rules, here's what it's going to be.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And you were just like, hey, we got that calls to be. I'm glad you're home. You pull up in the yard and here comes your parents. Yeah. Saying, welcome, welcome home. And I'd been gone. I was AWOL for two years. And what's interesting is when I tell the story, I always say,
Starting point is 00:34:34 and we kill the fat and catfish and had a celebration because the lost son had come home, which it always gets to laugh because, you know, they kill the fat and calf in this story. But it was true. I mean, we literally lived this story out in me. Of course, the same thing with you. And how to fish fry? What I like about what Jesus did here with telling these stories is he basically, you're looking at it from the coin's perspective
Starting point is 00:34:56 because we never think about it. Oh, it's a cool coin. It's worth. I don't know what it's worth. Probably $100. I'm not going to sell it. Because it's just a piece of silver. But for humans, you just think if you're buried
Starting point is 00:35:13 in a dark place lost and all of a sudden you're uncovered you're like thank you Jesus. If the coin could speak is like you know you're talking about I have literally been doing nothing like getting dirt thrown on my hand but for us
Starting point is 00:35:35 which I think that's the analogy though you're in a pit you're lost it's dark you're in pain your ostracized from the rest of any kind of meaningful life. And then he detects you. He finds you and cleans you out. Well, it's like there's a friend of mine named Kenny that was listening to the podcast. He lives in North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:35:57 And so back there early in the pandemic, he was like, he had been listening to the podcast. He was like, man, I'm just, I'm ready to go all in. You know, and he likes to play poker. So that was the way he used his phrase. He said, I'm partially in, but I'm not all in. You know, and so he said, you know, and he came down here and you and I, you baptized him. And it was funny because he, it was his birthday and he had a, he had a camouflage shirt that his, he has, he owns a restaurant chain. He had a camouflage shirt that his staff had given it. And it had the date on it. And it was like, my, my birthday and my new birthday is what it said on it. And he ended on a shirt. It was really an interesting thing. And it was just like what you were saying. And so he and I have stayed in contact. And he just.
Starting point is 00:36:41 told me this week he said i can't believe you guys got another hurricane coming i was like i mean sometimes you're just like well you know what's happening but you just got to you know batting down and hatchet he said look i got a place in orlando just come stay up my you know go down there and stay take your grandkids but i just thought here's a guy that like i didn't know six months ago and now because of what we're doing here it awakened his mind and his heart and now he is on fire i mean this guy's going to reach a lot of people well that's why i'm bringing this up because i know that John 15, it's a hard passage to wrap your head around when it says, you didn't choose me, but I chose you.
Starting point is 00:37:16 That's why I said when you look at it from a metal detecting viewpoint, which where the thing he's detecting, you then kind of get it. Right. Because you're not getting out of the ground without him saying, let me, I'm going to find you. I'm going to cleanse you. I'm going to resurrect you. You're just lost, which is why he's telling the story on, in Luke. of why he's at a table with tax collectors and centers.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Every Sunday morning now, I go to make the loop. And all I want to, I'm just asking them, where are y'all from? Where y'all from? Where are y'all from? And they start naming the states. And it's amazing from the east coast to the west coast to the Canada, including the Canadians. I always tell the Canadians, I said, every time I see a bunch of mallard ducks coming, or we stop and sing the Canadian National Anthem.
Starting point is 00:38:14 And we got a lot of Canadian listeners, too. A lot of Canadians. They listen to our podcast. And I go around to find out where they're all from. And I thought, man, they come and many of them when I say, why did you come this far? They said, God sent me. God sent me. God sent me.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Well, I have to give a Canadian some credit because the reason I thought about bringing, because I didn't think about doing this today. but I was actually looking up somebody sent me a link that said because we had brought this up this controversy over Netflix
Starting point is 00:38:49 and the whatever that movie was I can't remember one Cudies Yeah the Cudies Well the Texas Rangers Well some court in Texas
Starting point is 00:39:00 Indicted Netflix for And you know you can read it Somebody sent me the link That's a dance in is that Yeah Yeah and the Texas Rangers went to Netflix and served the whatever, you know, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Yeah, and I'm like, good for them. Oh, I'm great. We don't, and what was amazing, so I was looking up, I was trying to see where that was. And what's amazing when I was reading that on the social media, most of the people, most people were like, thank you, Jesus. We love, I'm proud. I mean, yeah, we're not going to take,
Starting point is 00:39:39 you know, kids and and show them in a... Sexual exploitation of children. And it's not like I wouldn't forgive Netflix or, but when you're defending that, no, I'm out. That's what I told you. I'm like, I canceled my Netflix.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Until further notice. I mean, we're not endorsing that. And you can make that argument about a bunch of stuff, but I think 10 year old kids shown in a provocative way, that's out. that's universal. So anyway, I was looking up about that, but I looked on mine,
Starting point is 00:40:13 and somebody from Canada had said, he said, I love y'all's podcast. He said, and there's two reasons. He said, I love Jesus and I love metal detector. I actually responded. I don't remember what I said. I think I said something about Jesus is the human detector. Is the ultimate.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Let's take one last break. Well, since we're here, and we're kind of at the end of the podcast, I want to mention the older brother because you've told the story because in this kind of a warning to me to like church folks because he's in the story
Starting point is 00:40:53 it's the Jewish leadership, the Pharisees that Jesus, that's the older brother because they're like he's eating with these sinners and they're like well I mean who wants to hang around with these filthy people? That's their mindset but you come forward a couple of thousand years and sometimes that's
Starting point is 00:41:11 the way people still think. Oh, yeah. They got it, we got our church, we got our place we go. You know, we're meeting here. We don't want any of these stinky people coming in and messing up our little, you know, spiritual club. And don't you think they were, he was saying they were representing the very first verse, the people that was grumbling.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Right. Yeah, he's eating one tax collectors. So really, as much, the focal point of the story is really more about that guy, because that's Jesus making his point. You know, he's doing it his typical way. He does it. He tells three different stories here. And every one of them ends with joy over loss being found.
Starting point is 00:41:51 But the older brother was not joyful. Remember, he heard the party going on. He was like, what's happening here? And they're saying, oh, you know, the lost son has come home. We're having a big party. And he grumbles about it. Yeah. He's like, well, I never had a party for me, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Me and my friends, we don't even get a goat, much less, you know. And he told all this elaborate story in response. to one question. That's right. How come you're eating with them? And, you know, all right. I mean, to me, that's the, that's what separates Jesus from every other religious representative ever. Right. How come you're eating with them, all right? And then he tells those three stories. That's right. It's incredible. And you'd had the same thing happen back in Luke seven whenever the woman was at his feet. Remember? And he was in a Pharisee's home. you know and the Pharisees like he thinks to him and says he thought to himself you know that this guy
Starting point is 00:42:46 knew if he was really a prophet he wouldn't be hanging around this letting this woman you know make this display he just thought it and Jesus says Simon I got a little something to ask you well if you want to tie a bunch of verses together if you get if you have a pencil handy you'll need one just just watch this this is about I'll do this quickly John chapter one that Now, we're going back, we've covered this over the last few months. Through Him, Jesus, verse 3, 1-3, through Him, all things were made. Without Him, nothing was made. He has been made.
Starting point is 00:43:20 In Him was life. That life, and this goes all the way to John 15, was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it. Speaking of back then and now, Al, there came a man who was sent from God. Here's John the Baptist. His name was John. as a witness to testify concerning that light so through him all men might believe. He himself was not the light, John the Baptist.
Starting point is 00:43:50 He came only as a witness to the light. The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world. This was a huge, the greatest event of all time. He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. he came to that which of his own, the Jews, but his own did not receive him, yet to all who received him, those who believed in his name,
Starting point is 00:44:16 he gave him the right to become children of God. Children born, not of natural descent. You've got to be born again, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God and the word became flesh. You start right there, and you jump over to John 3. God's the low of the world, everybody in it.
Starting point is 00:44:35 He gave his only begotten son, whoever believes in him won't perish, what's this he said look god did not send his son into the world to condemn the world down to the last nickel or last sheep for every last one of them but to save the world through him whoever believes in is not condemned whoever does not believe in him is condemned already he's not believed in the name of god's one and only son this is the verdict he's back on it again light has come into the world but men love darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Everyone who does evil hates the light and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light so that what may be done plainly what he's done is done through him the light. So you get to that one. That's John 1. That's John 3. Then you've got like John 812.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Before you read that, you know what I thought? It's like I never thought about this before, do you read that? But I'm uncovering that old coin and you bring it into the light. Yep. And the first thing people notice is they're looking for how many imperfections it has. Because now, of course, before it came into the light, it's nothing.
Starting point is 00:46:04 That's it. Nothing to anybody, anywhere. It's insignificant. Everything and everybody at some point is lost and hopefully found. But many of them, no. So you get to John 8. He's still on that same topic. I'm the light of the world.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. So that's John 1. That's John 3. This is John 8. You turn one page. You get to John chapter 9, verse 5. while I'm in the world, I am the light of the world. You turn two more pages after John 9, you get to John 12.
Starting point is 00:46:45 You say, why has he been so redundant? So you can't miss it. 12.25. Let's see. 1225. Yeah. The man who loves his life will lose it for the man who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Whoever serves me will follow me. where I am, but servant also will be. He'll honor the one who serves me. Then he talked about Father. He said, this is going to be a tough deal. What am I going to do? 35 is where I think, I think 30. I'm down to 27, just leading into it.
Starting point is 00:47:23 It was for this very reason I came to this hour, the lights in the world. You look on down below there, this voice for you, was for your benefit, not mine. Now is the time for judgment on this world. The prince of this world, the devil, will be driven out. But when I'm lifted up from the earth, I will draw all men to myself. He showed what kind of death he was going to do. Then down in the 35, you're going to have the light just a little while longer. Think about it.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Jesus didn't save it 33 years. That's not long by anybody's count. Walk while you have the light before darkness overtakes you. And the man who walks in the dark does not know where he's going. put your trust in the light, why you have it, so that you may become sons of light. And from there, all the way through, John 1235, John 12, 46,
Starting point is 00:48:19 then you get over in Ephesans where you were rescued, brought out of darkness into light, therefore live as children of light. My point is, there's a lot in the book of John to introduce the light of the world. Immortality is riding on it. And if you miss it and you are not found and at some point, you don't step out of the darkness and into the light. There'll be, you shouldn't worry about the ones who can kill your body.
Starting point is 00:48:49 That's right. Want to get body and soul in hell. He said, there's the one you worry about. So that's why dad is the bullpen closer. Hey. Perfect way to end the podcast. Seek the light. Let's get in that light and stay there.
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