Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 162 | Phil Is Sticking with Miss Kay, 'Cuties' Isn't About Free Speech, and the Death Penalty

Episode Date: October 14, 2020

Phil, Jase, and Al laugh as they remember their boat launch money-making scheme. Terry Bradshaw bails Phil out of an awkward moment. Phil explains why men need women and why he's sticking with Kay no ...matter what. Jase goes into his stance on the death penalty. Al comes down hard on the racist evil of Margaret Sanger. And the guys talk about why "Cuties" isn't a free-speech issue and how to learn where to find answers to your questions in the Bible. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? So my brother, Jep, who is my metal detecting partner, he's really... Yeah, brothers, we all have different roles. He's your metal detecting brother. Yeah, I got him put. I'm your preaching brother. But Jep, he's trying to make a buck, which is kind of weird people detect for different reasons.
Starting point is 00:00:27 And we've talked about it before. Yeah. He goes for the low-hanging fruit. Every time he comes to my house, he starts looking through, like, there's some chains, and he's looking through the mind. Oh, he's gone through everything. He's looking through your ashtray without a metal detector. I mean, that's a tough.
Starting point is 00:00:43 That's low-hanging fruit. He went down, you know, we used to have a boat dock down here. Yep. And I had taken field down there, or maybe it was barely, I can't remember. I was showing him how the metal detector worked, and I just went right under that mailbox. And literally, I didn't even need my... I took my little pinpointer and it did ding, ding, ding, d'n, d'n, d'n, because people would put quarters and...
Starting point is 00:01:05 When you're commercial fishing for our living, we come up with a scheme, put a mailbox down there, put down there $1 to launch. If you want to launch your boat on my property, stick a dollar in the mailbox. It was actually Granny's investment, because we didn't have any money. She came up with the idea. She came up with the idea, because you had to invest in pouring a concrete ramp, which we did. The problem was nobody really knew. a lot about, you know, making sure the thing's not too steep.
Starting point is 00:01:33 So you remember that first when we built, that thing was so steep. How many trucks went to the bottom of the creek through the history of the boat ramp? A number of them, fortunately, without the people in them, their mercy brake would break through and they'd just take off and disappear. And we'd get a, you know, a big machine down there, you know, trucks, there's big pulleys. And they'd just pull them right back up out of the, they'd send the man diving down in there, hook onto the truck and they'd just take a big you don't ever get the boom on it it's a boom truck and look I've seen the trucks come out the light's still on because they launched four
Starting point is 00:02:08 daylight emergency brake didn't hold the mole my truck John yeah it's a wonder we didn't get sued over all that oh I think there were a few threatening lawsuits because Phil had a home the only reason we didn't get sued is because they looked at what we had wasn't anything I was commercial fishing and they'd get a dollar a launch and they said you ain't getting a dollar a launch and they said you ain't money out of that money. Yeah, you're going to get the 20 bucks in that mailbox. They don't have anything because there was a hump in that concrete and they would scrape their bumpers on it or, you know, but it was average about $30 a month. And if you think about it, we thought that was pretty good. Oh, I remember the most exciting part of the day was going
Starting point is 00:02:47 out there and checking the mailman. Amazingly, Jayce found out about the dollar launch and they'd get out their quarters and stuff. Some of them would leave notes saying, saying, I didn't have a 50. cents. Yeah, I'll make it up next time. They thought I was monitoring it with a gun, but I really wasn't. But they said that redneck up, hey, he's watching him. You better make sure you put that money in there. Well, it might have been how you look.
Starting point is 00:03:12 But they were dropping quarters and dimes and pennies, and I didn't realize that it was a treasure trove for a hunter. Because Jase goes down there, and that thing goes nuts. A eight-foot circle around that where the mailbox was, you know, we're moved past the dollar I wasn't say there was a time when kind of the mailbox and the boat launch, you know, kind of went to the rearview mirror. We weren't really worried about the dollar. We graduated out of that phase of our financial status. Which is funny because down that's the kind of the, it's been the through the years the baptismal spot is down there. That's where we baptize.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Well, on the last podcast, we, I had talked about one of my finds was this, it had 50 on it. And we didn't know what it was. I said it was some kind of token. Well, Jep, he found. found it on the internet the exact token and the reason we couldn't figure it out it was this was one of a collection of 244 miscellaneous Texas trade tokens so I found this in Louisiana at my place but it was actually from Texas it was a lumber Johnson and Tucker lumber token so back then so we know the time they don't have the time they say we
Starting point is 00:04:26 creation information. It was during the Depression. Unknown creation date. But the tokens took off during the Depression because they didn't want to give you money back. Right. So this, if they ever went back to Johnson's... Is that token, you owe me?
Starting point is 00:04:44 No, this would be the change. Like they paid, you know, $4 and it was $350. And so instead of giving them 50 cents back, you get a token. You get this nice. So the next thing. time you come. So the only thing I'd be good for was more from, it's kind of what you do now, actually. If you go to Walmart and you return something, they don't give you your money back.
Starting point is 00:05:07 They give you credit for Walmart. So that's what this is. Yeah, that's what that is. That's why it's not made of silver. And so somebody like me, if I'm going to figure out if Johnson and Tucker are first still in business, then I'll, next time I go by there, I will pull in there. It's worth a son. And I'm going to say, I'm going to drop that down. What can I get for this? You need four nails. Two, two of fours and one tube of six, ten foot long.
Starting point is 00:05:37 No, that ain't going to cover it. You're going to want to spend it more than you did. But it's interesting. I mean, it's, when you think about the history of the Depression and out of the token, I mean, I found this out in the middle of Louisiana. You know what's amazing? Speaking of all this, the Depression. and all that.
Starting point is 00:05:56 We live in a country where it's beyond doubt. All you have to do is just step back and look on how blessed, especially when it comes to the flow of money that America has generated and for people to turn against that. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:06:17 It's beyond me because, I mean, look, the money is, it's just in every direction. And I mean, Yeah. Well, Phil. And we came up with, we sound like, we knew what birds sounded like. And somebody says, so are you jumping up and down about that? I said, well, it's a particular skill set that I'm going to try to make a living at it.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yeah. Because I know what birds sound like. I'm going to build devices that sound like the birds. And they're like, that idiot. Do you have a college degree? I said, yeah, a couple of them. They're like, and you're going to get into the selling devices that sound like, birds you actually think that'll work i said i think it'll work listen i never deviated from that i never
Starting point is 00:06:59 lost hope in that i never doubted that i was just looking at capitalism and how it works and i said if you can sound like birds and other people can't you sell them devices where they can sound like the particular bird thereafter to call the bird in i said and how many years in it took about 35 years. 35 years later, somebody says, we thought you were an idiot when you first come up with this idea. But now, it's all
Starting point is 00:07:29 out in the open. You're a genius. You're right. You don't say something about America. And just look at the backdrop. You also have a constitution. I mean, no sign in the papers, no checking with the authorities. Just put a board up out there, Doc Commander. I got to tell the story. So in 2014,
Starting point is 00:07:46 we went to Louisiana Tech University dad had not been back since he left there after his degrees. That's correct. In this early 70s, we go. And so they decide, of course, we're famous, we're on TV. Terry Bradshaw was there. It was a great evening. Dad didn't want to go.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I said, oh, we got to go, Dad. So we didn't know, but that night, the president of the university comes in, all these people with the suits on, and we're in the football coach's office. And they're like, you know, get everybody's attention here. So they're like, we want to take this opportunity? to just, you know, we're so glad to have Terry and Phil back, you know, together on the campus, you know, they're doing their little speech. So the president says, and we want to take this opportunity to honor Phil Robertson as the alumnus of the year to go into our Hall of Fame. So everybody's looking at their little smattering of.
Starting point is 00:08:39 So dad, okay. Dad's down there. So look, he's just a cigar store Indian. He's just looking. No smile, nothing. It's just like an awkward moment. because they're waiting for him to say something. And so dad looks over at me.
Starting point is 00:08:53 And when he does, I thought, oh, crap. I know what's coming. Because, like, you know how dad does the, when he wants to confront you, he talks to me about you. So he looks over at me, he says, Al, remember when we used to fish the Westall River? And now everybody says, quite. You were thinking, uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I knew what I was coming. We're going down a road. I said, yep, he said, we were getting 70 cents for catfish and 30 cents for buffalo. remember them days? I was like, yes, sir, I remember. And so they're wondering like, what's his business thing? He says, you know, everybody, all my old buddies, everybody from college days, they said I was some kind of idiot from fishing the Wachita River, building duck calls.
Starting point is 00:09:37 You remember that? He's looking at me, and there's just roomful of people. And I'm like, yeah, and I'm just trying to think, how are we going to get out of this? We're going off the track here. He said, now, 40 years later, we're going. you know, I'm some kind of genius. He said, it's almost like a miracle is having. Now everybody's kind of like chuckling, but they're thinking, is he serious?
Starting point is 00:10:00 And it was Bradshaw that bails the moment out. He started slapping his leg. He said, Phil, they don't care about any of that stuff. You're rich and famous now. They just want to chat. I said, okay, now the chickens are come home to roost. That was one of the fun. I mean, I never forget.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I was like, I was an idiot. until the money started flowing and then they said he's a genius can you you know shave off about a hundred grand for us i mean too well because they're like we'll make you we'll put a picture of you in a frame on our wall yep and that's what they did and give us some money that's how this works well the picture went on the wall i'm not sure the money ever i'm gonna tell you this out of all my college classes none of the professors ever said make sure if you can sound like a bird do so build a device that'll work. I'll tell you something else. If you give them like a million bucks, they'll name a building that. That's right. That's right. I want to give you all a bit of,
Starting point is 00:10:59 are you going to flow some money into it? So I got to show the picture, Cole. They're good people. I love them. They are. And look, on dads, just to close that, so on dads, we'll show you this picture on the podcast. But there's a picture of dad hanging on this wall. And you've got to think about tech's been around a long time, 150 years. And I could have pursued of the football career. Looking back, I'm so happy that I didn't do that, especially now that I'm looking, I'm happy for a Bradshaw that he went on.
Starting point is 00:11:29 So I was looking on the Hall of Fame wall, dad. I just didn't have it in my heart. I didn't want to do that. I know. And here's what was interesting. So all these people, a lot of names I recognize, business people, kicks and done,
Starting point is 00:11:41 Carl Malone, all these people. And dad looking just like he does on the podcast today is his picture. It was a brass thing, you know. And it says television personality, hunting icon, television personality, class of 69, and then servant of Christ, which I thought was really neat. Because Jesus Christ was only mentioned on one plaque out of all those ones. And it was on last. That's a good thing to say.
Starting point is 00:12:08 So I thought that was pretty good. I never used my degrees. It never helped me in the particular, decision to do what I did as far as the duck calls and I'll go my education had nothing to do with it but it gave someone said well why did you stick
Starting point is 00:12:27 stay the course and earn the two degrees I did that as kind of like an insurance policy right I said I do have a couple of degrees it will over some doors you could have taught or coached but it does help you with confident it's like I used to say that about the school that Al and I went to I was like I've never used to end of this stuff
Starting point is 00:12:45 but that was an immature way to look because it taught me perseverance I accomplished something it gave me confidence that you know and you do learn little things that I think you don't realize you use but I want to say this because there's some irony here now you just think about if you go back here's you and Terry Bradshaw from Shreveport Louisiana and y'all go to Louisiana Tech y'all both can throw football because you're you were from the Shreveport area both of you were yep so you wind up on the same team, you know, you made some poor life decisions, whatever, and basically turned down the possibility of NFL career.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Yep. Because, you know, they play football during the season. Because you had the ability to do that. Could have done it. So here's Bradshaw. He goes, wins four Super Bowls. I think he won four. Yep.
Starting point is 00:13:36 And you build the duck calls. I'll tell you where I'm going with this. You're going to be shocked while I'm fixed to take. Really? Yes. So you build the duck calls and make duck hunting videos, and then the show comes about a reality show and become famous. You know, everybody's saying, well, y'all both wound up famous.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Well, now Bradshaw, he gets on TV, becomes a bit of a, kind of a little bit like your family on the TV show. And now, guess what? Guess who's fixing to launch a reality show? You? Terry Bradshaw. Oh, really? Him and his family.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Yep, it's fixing to come out. And I thought, now, what a weird world. I saw I was watching something the other day, and they were like new. And it was pretty much Duck Dynasty, Terry Bradts, it had the same feel. And I thought, here's two guys. You played football together. They went separate paths. You did the reality show, and then he comes full circle, because he used to make fun of you for being on the reality show.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And now he has a reality show. So what are the odds? Thank you break. Well, let's face it, that really is not shocking because to me, Bradshaw's life is like a reality. I mean, like, he's kind of a folk hero kind of guy. He's just, he's good-natured. I think he's got a lot of side tendencies. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:04 He does. Yeah, there are a lot of like because whoever, I think I was watching a football. He's a great guy to be around. I was watching a football game. And whoever was introducing the show, because they had just run an ad, I saw the commercial to it. he's like well i tell you this when we were in the on the set doing the football he said we laughed from the moment he walked in to the time he walked out which is a lot like side he's a jokester
Starting point is 00:15:30 everybody says the same well i think he'll be a success i'm i'll probably watch i don't watch a lot of tv anymore but i'll probably watch that you know he and i since that night we traded phone numbers just to stay in touch and so i texted him from down to time so i texted and when mom bought that walk-in tub. And, you know, he's a spokesman for several things. And that's one of them. And I said, hey, Bradshaw, mom bought the walk-in tub, you know, and we thought it was funny because that's like your thing.
Starting point is 00:15:58 And he takes it back. He said, oh, she's going to love that thing. It's amazing. So it's like, I was just a joke. I was kind of joking with it about it. But he was like, oh, that thing is something. I mean, it's a lot. Can we do something about that commercial?
Starting point is 00:16:10 Have you seen the commercial, the guy? He got, he's, like, I mean, he's an older. elderly guy, he takes his robe off, you know, on the woman sitting over there. And it's all about a walk-in tub. And I'm like, this is way too awkward to show me the darn tub. I don't want to see the elderly guy. Because I'm like, what's under there? Oh, no, I don't want to watch.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And then he's in the tub, you know, like, do it. But it's just so cheesy. I'm like, please redo that. Mom found out the hard way that you need to, the door has to be. all the way shut and latched. Her first tub full all ended up on the bathroom floor. She was hollered, and I wasn't by getting it. I said, look, this is got a latch on it.
Starting point is 00:16:58 She seems to have problems at this date of her life with any kind of tub. She's like a walking wreck. She went to jumps and took a shower and wound up in the hospital with like 14 stitches. Oh, it's like. But I'm not going to stash her in some home somewhere. I said, hey, just relax. I'll take care of it. Well, she's got, because of meds she's had to take,
Starting point is 00:17:21 so her skin is real thin now, and so it's very easy to cut. So the other day, the dog jumps on her, and she's having to wear all these protective things on her arms and legs. She's wearing leggings. Leggings, that's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Well, hey. But I've been running with y'all's mama since she was about 15, so I'm going to ride her out and let her just, she'd do whatever she wants to do, huh? Look, when you get in your 70s and all this tripping, falling, falling out of the bathtub, you know, dogs jumping on your arms, cutting them real bad. I mean, now it's just like, I said, yeah, I mean, when you were a young kid, Ms. Kay, I'll stay with you. I read that. The number one problem with people over 70 is no disease.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Falls. Falls. False. That's for mine for sure. Can't stand up. So, Dad, during this recent batch of Mons Falls, Stone was telling me the other day that they were having lunch. lunch and dad was doing the prayer. And mom said, be sure and pray for me, you know, my whatever. So dad's praying, you know, and he says, and Father, just bless Ms. Kay, we want to have her
Starting point is 00:18:25 around a few more years with all her various ailments. He said all her various ailments. I mean, you just kind of lumped it into the broader thing. But actually, she's doing really good. This is probably, she's, she's walking. She's doing the low carb diet. So she's, by the way, she said this, You're going to put her on the podcast. Is that... Yeah, we got her coming up. Is that a rumor?
Starting point is 00:18:49 Is that she coming up? She's coming up. We've got a potential exciting female guest. And so, Jason, we're going to bump Jaye off of that one, let mom take his chair. I won't tell who it is. I salute all women's, womanhood, all womanhood worldwide. If Ms. Kay stayed the course with me, that's all I've got to say about that. She did.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Women are strange creatures, but, you know, you need one. You know, and it's interesting because the last podcast we talked about being prodigals, you were and I was as well. And, you know, Mom, she forgave you for that past, 44 years ago. And it was interesting because when Phyllis came into our lives, which we didn't know, I mean, she was from that era. And I'm sure, and again, not to disparage a surprise like that, a lot of women, if they really hadn't forgiven their husband, something like that could really upset the apple cart. I'm saying? Because now all of a sudden, we got another person. And yet, you know, Mom, from the first night that I shared that with both of you was just she never wavered.
Starting point is 00:19:52 And she was like, oh, I get a girl, you know. Well, I think it's underestimated God when he designed marriage between a man and a woman. People don't realize that they make you, and I'm saying when you put your faith and trust in putting God first, they actually complete you. I was a disaster before I met Jesus, and I was somewhat a disaster before I met my wife. I mean, she basically brought out the best in me. I mean, hopefully I did the same. You're exactly right, Jason.
Starting point is 00:20:26 In fact, I believe that's exactly what Genesis 2. It's a synergy there. It's one plus one, but it's more than two. It's better than two. Yeah, I always say one plus one equals one, but I meant we're actually, one. That's right. Because that's what he says. There's a permanence that happens. Yeah. And I've always felt
Starting point is 00:20:46 like the synergy that comes out of a couple that really gets it and understands it is on the same spiritual page. I mean, you could do anything. The biblical model by far is the best model. Any way you want to slice. Exactly. No doubt. America has forgotten that and it's come back to haunt them.
Starting point is 00:21:02 But there's nothing finer on planet Earth and more peacegiving than a good woman. I've used that as an example. Used to when people I used to ask me, how do you explain God being three entities and yet one? And a lot of people have arguments and controversy. I used to say, well, it's kind of like an egg.
Starting point is 00:21:25 You know, you got the shell, the white stuff, and the yolk. I mean, it's one egg. But they have different properties. But I've now since used the husband-wife, even though it's only two, I'm like, well, we're one. Yep. I mean, we are, and the longer you stay together, the more you function as one, even when you're not together. We're one entity. A good woman is when you come back at midday from being in the woods, and the first question she asked, and she's legitimately concerned, did y'all get them? And I'm like, we got them. She said, you want me to fix some duck wraps or you want to cook a gumbo? and she starts figuring out the way we go eat the tags.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Yeah, well, it took, see, it took Missy 20 years. When a woman asked you, did you get them or not, that's a good sign. Well, it took Missy 20 years to get to that stage. That takes off the time. She wouldn't eat the things that I was killing because she just, she just wasn't raised where you just go out and kill something in your backyard. She had an unfounded aversion to what you were doing. She was like, what is that all about?
Starting point is 00:22:36 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, she started eating them, and she thought, whoa. She didn't start eating them. You tricked her? Well, I would feed her something, and that was a good lie because I would say, try this chicken. It was a frog.
Starting point is 00:22:51 So try this beef. I got her recipe. I cooked them in the oven when you couldn't tell. That was a deer. It was a deer. She was like, I have never. I mean, I remember she was just looking around like, where did you buy that meat? I mean, because she was trying to figure it out, and I'm like, maybe that's a deer.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Of course, she was mad at first. She's like, imagine that. But then it's like, it won out. And so now, look, I kid you not. I've been gone from her two days from my last Texas trip. She sent me a video. There were about 10 deer right outside my backyard. That's a good place to live.
Starting point is 00:23:29 You got a good winter supply of meat all the time. So look, she sends me the video, and under it, it says, you need to look in to when Texas deer season opens. That's a change. Boy, have we come a long way of 30 years. She's now become, she's graduating out of these subdivision women. Well, yeah. The ones that are anti-Trump, the sub-girl.
Starting point is 00:23:53 As you think about it, everybody else in the subdivision. Suburban women. They're like, oh, look at the deer. Let's name them. But she was thinking, we need to get one of these and eat it. Let's take a break. So in a neighborhood like that, could you shoot one with a bow? Legally?
Starting point is 00:24:16 Are you putting me on the spot here? I'm just, I'm going to ask you because I don't know. And say, no. I mean, I'm sure. In Texas, they may let you shoot. They may let you do. If you can shoot a deer in my backyard, I will be shocked. I would think in the state of Texas, as many people go out there to hunt,
Starting point is 00:24:34 I would think if they're in your yard, you know, you need a little pruning from time. Well, I just think about the city of Rustin, which is, you know, 30 miles from here, they had such a problem with the deer in the neighborhoods that they encouraged people, no guns, but they encourage people to bow hunt and start killing some of these deer. You got to remember the city I'm living in is not exactly red. So you're in a red state. You're in a blue lake in a red state. But I will say this.
Starting point is 00:25:04 And I think I said this a couple of podcasts ago. There's one mile out of my neighborhood to the stop sign, and there were three dead deer that had been run over. Well, right. That's what happens. I'm like, we have too many deer, and they're not that taint. I mean, they're not that wild because they're looking around. This was broad daylight when she sent me the video. There were joggers, but, you know, shooting a bow there.
Starting point is 00:25:27 I mean, look, I'll take a dare, but I'll have to see if legally I can do that, because I don't want to wind up on the front page of the Austin Gazette. it's actually the austin statesman days that's what's called their paper yeah i knew that because they used to travel down they're coming out of these major cities and they're going to texas for taxes and whatever and and probably security too safe they're coming there but they they bring their ideology well if you know if they would leave their ideology i would welcome them to say come on in you look out west ad on the map you know when they show the colors and same thing happened to colorado and Arizona. Those used to be solid red states. Because the Western spirit, like you meet people that
Starting point is 00:26:10 like generation been out west, they're some of the best people on the planet. That is correct. They're entrepreneurs. They love, you know, they do. Hard working. Get out of my face with the government. But all those, those, they're coming from California and Oregon, Washington, and they're doing it to Texas now. Same thing. They turn it, they call it purple, you know, because they start coming in with the ideology. But you made the point before. It's so crazy because the. reason you left there is why you had to leave there. That's correct. Don't bring that and then turn this into that. Leave that back wherever you came from. Because they're just under siege. Well, I mean, shows you the danger of ideologies and hollow and deceptive philosophy. That's what they're into.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Well, the Romans one, it always comes back to that as far as God, humans, animals, in that order. We love all three, but there is, there's an order where if you get that, which, a lot of these big cities, they literally have animals, humans, and no God. Yeah, God's not even. I mean, you're like, you value an animal more than you do, you know, an unborn baby.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Well, no wonder we got so much chaos and we're searching for moral. One said they worship and serve created things rather than the creator. Right. That's, that's what I mean up with these, and you wind up with this ideology. Like you talked about the woman,
Starting point is 00:27:34 asking because she write down you were white, which is... She's from the Census Bureau. I'm sitting there in a truck, and I didn't have anything to do with it. I just looked down one day, and I said, hmm, I'm white. Well, she was viewing me, and she said, can I put you down on the Census Bureau as white? And I said, well, you can take a look at me and whatever you think. I said, but it's your call. I said, I am who I am.
Starting point is 00:28:03 And the reason I say that is because... I was watching one of these late night. I'm trying to figure out how she thought I would be offended. Because that's the thinking. Everybody's offended about everything. So I heard one of these late night guys going on this rant about these people having gender reveal parties when they're like, you know, telling people what the baby is, you know, whether it's a boy or a girl.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And he's like, I mean, that's the greatest thing you ever heard of. That child doesn't know what they are yet. I mean, he said it with a straight face. Yeah. Like, how can you have a gender reveal person? party when the child has to determine whether he's a male or a fear. That's the, that's the sort of mindset. Because the human anatomy, it always goes back to human anatomy, and there's been two
Starting point is 00:28:47 exceptions out of billions of people where somebody was born, and they really weren't sure, you know. That's right. It happens. They're a small percentage of them. But if you'll notice what y'all call the left or whatever, however you want to classify those, they always take some sort of exception. and then base their whole philosophy on that, like they do with abortion.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Every exception becomes the rule. Yeah, they always argue, what if a woman is raped, which is horrible? And yeah, that's a difficult situation. But don't build a whole philosophy that there's not a human life based on something tragic happened in a certain situation. I mean, we're going to choose life no matter what happens because we believe Jesus is life. I'm never going to choose death. That just goes against everything I read and I think what makes this country. And then they masquerize with language because then it's like it's not really killing a child.
Starting point is 00:29:44 It's women's reproductive health rights. And every woman has a right to, you know, like she. They've trained themselves to look at their child in their womb as not, it's just tissue. It's not a person. That's right. They were there at one time and they would have to agree, yeah, I was there at one time. Yeah. Well, I think...
Starting point is 00:30:04 It was you. Yeah. Before you came out, yeah, it was me. I said, well, you're getting there. I think it's a little bit, too, because then they'll argue, well, are you for capital punishment? Like for me, and look, I don't mind if this offends people. I'm always going to choose life. I'm like, now in a set of a situation where somebody does a heinous crime, I'm like, let the family decide.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I'm fine with it. You know, if they say, if he's convicted. but personally I'm going to choose life because I'm like stick him in a, you know, misery to me as a greater form of punishment or, you know, pump in sermons from one of us. Right. For his, that's part of his. Dad's actually had some sermons pumped in to some death row guys.
Starting point is 00:30:50 But that, a lot of people don't like that. And some of them came to Christ. A lot of people don't like that, but I simply believe that, because I'm never choosing death. I'm always on the side of life. But it doesn't bother me that our society does that because if you break the law, we've got to have some form of punishment. God designed the system where that functions.
Starting point is 00:31:14 But me personally, I'm just not flipping the switch. I mean, I'm not going to do it. I'm going to choose life only because I believe that God can save somebody, even though they have to suffer the consequences on the earth you know, for the actions. Right. But to get back to the deer story, I mean, if I, I'll look and see if I can do that. But I had a thought, if I don't pull that off, I could pull off what one of your redneck
Starting point is 00:31:41 acquaintances did, who made a bad decision and shot a deer at night that wasn't real. Because the... A fake deer. Well, yeah. It was a game warden had set up a deer that wasn't real. Because he knew they had been shooting deer. They had him where he could wag his tail with it. I saw the deer.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Battery operated. Yeah, and he shot the deer and he did the time. Hang on, let's take a break. So what he did, since he couldn't hunt now, he designed his truck as basically a deer killer because he wanted to eat deer. Rammar, he could ram them. Yeah, so he had a series of bumper.
Starting point is 00:32:24 So I've noticed that where I live, that would be an option. Yeah. Because trust me, they're there. Not that I would do that on purpose, because it would be an accident if I hit it here. I mean, hypothetically, it would be an option to do the world of favor and save your vehicle. I want to mention one more thing, and we've got a couple of viewer questions today, but since we were talking about abortion, something viewers may not know or listeners. So Margaret Sanger, who's like the famous person who started Planned Parenthood and the hero to people that love,
Starting point is 00:33:00 abortion, it wasn't a vowed racist. I mean, like, we're talking KKK racist. And her whole idea, by starting Planned Parenthood, was to hopefully kill black people. Yeah. That was her go. I mean, you can go and research. This is very easily found. So I just find it interesting. That's incredible. I've never heard that. Oh, it's 100%. You look into that old history. And look who's, who is being killed the most in our, in our, in our, in our, culture. It's black babies. That's true. And it's heinous. And it's terrible. And if she were alive,
Starting point is 00:33:36 she'd be rubbing her hands together because it worked. And what's amazing is the same people who are defending that claimed to be, you know, defender of all people, all colors, you know, black lives matter whatever. It's like the hypocrisy. I mean, only the evil one could develop such a heinous
Starting point is 00:33:51 plan is what's happening. You know, when I was looking at this deal, we talked about the Texas Rangers indicting Netflix for showing children unclosed or whatever. I haven't seen it. I'm just taking their word for it. But when I was looking at the responses on that,
Starting point is 00:34:11 well, they were all the people who were defending Netflix. They were like, well, it's a freedom of speech, freedom of speech, freedom of speech. And I thought, now you're going to take the Constitution and defend that, but then when you get the same people When it comes to the right to bear arms, no, we need to get that the heck out of there. And that's why it's so, to me, once you just fit a narrative and how you want the society to be, you're no longer listening to logic.
Starting point is 00:34:42 That's right. It just becomes, this is what we're for, this is what we're against. I'm not sure who's making those decisions. But then there's no conversation because the one very thing, which when you think about that freedom of speech, there's nothing about freedom of speech. They're not saying anything. You took a kid and you're disrobing them in a sexual way that you're breaking the law. Nobody's saying anything. But they're like, well, yeah, but they're in a media outlet.
Starting point is 00:35:10 So they have the right to do that. No, you don't. That's wrong. You're still wrong. You send against that kid because that kid's not old enough to realize, you know, because they were saying, well, we're drawing attention to it. Well, you did it the wrong way. You did it in an illegal way.
Starting point is 00:35:24 We're going to defend the innocent. So here's my point. The same vein. The reason we're upset about that is because I'm looking at this 10-year-old kid who's in this show, and I want to defend that kid because adults made decisions that did not defend their innocent. Their life is going to have to deal with that for the remainder that they're alive. Because it's embarrassing. When they get older, I guarantee they'd be like, why did you let me do that?
Starting point is 00:35:52 Probably money chains and hands because the parents would have stepped in and said, No. Yeah. But. Well, I'm sure they chose money. Their parents let it go for the money. And again, to show you the hypocrisy, Jay's, I talked about Sunday in my sermon. There was a, in 2016, there was a young African-American, well, he may be African.
Starting point is 00:36:11 His name is, he's a foreigner. But he's going to college in Georgia, on a college campus in Georgia, Gwinnett College. And he's a Christian. He's fired up about it. So he goes out in the public square there, whatever. and so sharing his faith with people that would come up and talk to him. They said, nope. Even though he was in the quote unquote free speech zone,
Starting point is 00:36:34 which was this little tiny place where they say you go and tall, and it was only, you could only do it like two hours out of the week. I mean, think about the set. And look, he's trying to do it all the right way. So he's following their little rules and all that. He goes out, he starts sharing his faith. People are talking to him. The cops come and say, no, no go here, the campus security police.
Starting point is 00:36:54 so he sued for his right to be able to do that two courts said nope nope you can't do that and i thought it was funny because you talked about free speech zone like the college made that up i thought i thought the country was a free speech zone uh yeah to share your faith well guess what the supreme court has taken the case this summer and so my buddies at adf are going to you know speak on his behalf but i just thought the hypocrisy that you just mentioned that people i can guarantee the same people would defend this Netflix trash would say, oh, they were right not to let that guy share his faith on that college campus. It's just, it's, the hypocrisy is so deep on this thing. That's why Jesus shows us a great.
Starting point is 00:37:36 He ate meals. We talked about the last podcast. Because there's, there's got to be a bridge. Our way to do it is to introduce Jesus and somehow, unless the heart's changed, you're not going to out-argue them, because the arguments are so illogical, what are you going to say? They're not going to say, oh, okay. Yeah, you're right. Well, I was not thinking. Yeah, that's a human baby inside of it. What? A few turn. A few turn. But I'm saying in Jesus, if you want to change their policies and the hypocrisy, you change the heart. Yeah. Because what they don't realize is most of the things that they're for, Jesus actually provides.
Starting point is 00:38:25 You're talking about equality? Yep. I mean, it doesn't matter where you've been or your gender neutrality, you know, and you're like, what? Well, in Christ, there's neither male or female. That's exactly right. Galatians 328.
Starting point is 00:38:39 That's right. We don't. We're all on the same. Equal footing here. Can't get much equal there. Let's take one last break. And I think your, I think your illustration of that
Starting point is 00:38:54 was when we had the, Just Thinking guys on our podcast a few weeks back. I mean, here's two black guys, city guys. We're red-bearded redneck sand in Louisiana. And yet what was the one thing that brought us together? And I mean, those guys, it was like us having this conversation and then two more guys because we all love Jesus. And we love people.
Starting point is 00:39:15 And we're all, I mean, like, I mean, that shows you right there. Jesus really is the answer to our country's ails. No doubt. Everything that's there. Well, you know, it's funny. I didn't even share it on. that when we had them on there, I didn't even know they were black until I looked at the TV, and I was like, oh, we didn't know. Yeah, I just didn't know. And I don't think that way. I'm not thinking,
Starting point is 00:39:35 you know, we say this all the time, but we really have become colorblind in Jesus. Right. I'm never based on an opinion based on the color of someone's skin. I'm not noticing, but to me, our culture wants to notice. They're like, we got to draw attention to this. Well, that's what the whole problem is. How are we different? It's right. We have a month for this and a week of this and you're this and I'm that. We need to celebrate this and that, our differences.
Starting point is 00:40:05 And I'm like, well, I just didn't notice. And people would say, there's a lot of people in the country that think we're just dumb, idiot Hicks, you know, because where we're from, how we talk. I'm pretty sure I'm called that every day. And I don't really disagree. We were smart enough to find Jesus and find some good women now. Well, there you go, right? There you go. I don't claim to me.
Starting point is 00:40:30 So let me ask this one question. This is from Adam. It says, speaking of which, how do you all study the Bible and remember where all the verses are? I mean, like, he's like, he's impressed by our biblical knowledge. So what would you say to Adam? What is our secret of knowing so much about it? Adam, are you listening, dude? Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Here's one. That you're remembering. He wants to know how you can do this. Now, see, you said, well, how would you have known where to go answer? Why did you know where to go? That's what he wants to know. The way you do it. Adam, what you need to learn, son, is this right here.
Starting point is 00:41:09 He's speaking of the scriptures, the Hebrew writer. He said, we have much to say about this, but it's hard to explain because you're so slow to learn. You don't know where the verses are. In fact, though by this time, you ought to be teaching. It's a growing process, Adam. You need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God's word all over again. You need milk, not solid food. So here's a group of individuals that are asking the same question you ask, Adam.
Starting point is 00:41:37 How do you know where all the scriptures are? Anyone who lives on milk being still an infant is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. You say there's a phase you have to go through. And here it is. Solid food, these scriptures. You know where they are. It answers every question there is. Where did it all come from?
Starting point is 00:41:59 What am I doing here? Is there a way out? How should I live? Where do I go and look and find some advice? Solid food is for the mature. You're not there yet, Adam. But we're going to help you get there. Who by constant use, that's critical.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Every day, Adam, you get out, you take a topic, any topic. Look in your concordance and just look at, today I think I'll look at all the Bible verses about perfection and just see what that means. Read all the verses, look them up. You spend about 45 minutes or an hour. The next day you say, I wonder what he has to say about, you know, Redeemer or Redeemer. I think I'll look at Redeemer over in my concordance in the back of my Bible.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Get to R and you look down there, A, B, C, D, E, F, you look down there. So you look up words. who by constant use, solid food, have, and check us out, Adam, no one can do it for you because you have to train yourself, self-training to know where the answers lie, because the Bible answers it all. You say, I've got to train myself to do what them guys do. They've trained themselves to dig into this Bible
Starting point is 00:43:17 and to find out the answers to the questions that mankind has. They have trained themselves to do something earth-shattering at them to distinguish good from evil. You train yourself to know the difference between good and evil. Take the Bible verses, upload them in your brain so that you're very aware of what you're visually seeing, what you're hearing. Is it good or evil? I see the little chicks dancing around half-naked. you say, not good.
Starting point is 00:43:52 That's not good for them. It's not good for their parents. It's not good for the country. It's not good in their stand before God. It's not good. Lewing this filthy, hints of immorality. You say, get rid of all them. You know where the verses are.
Starting point is 00:44:08 You look up in Ephesians 4. That's where you find that. So you're able to live a life, walking in the light. You know where the scriptures are. You know the difference between good and evil. Yeah, I think you're able. was constant use. Constant use.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Well, it's weird as Al had that written down. He was showing me. It was written down. No, yeah, I know, but I thought of it the same as you did. So here's another little buttress for what you just said, Acts 1711. I love this. Now, the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica. And here's why.
Starting point is 00:44:40 For they received the message with great eagerness and examine the scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. That's right. And so that's that same philosophy of your time. I have a little different take on this question because I'm not very smart and I'm not disciplined enough just to go study. So I learn basically, I guess, three ways, I guess.
Starting point is 00:45:06 One is from studying with people. So I'm trying to share Jesus and they ask me a question that I don't know. And I have no problem when someone says, well, what about, because a lot of the questions have nothing to do with their salvation or importance, but they want to know. And I'm like, I don't know. So when I go on. That's the idea when you say, I don't know. I don't know. I said, but I'll get back to you on it. So I go home. Well, now I have a reason to study because I'm curious. I'm like, that's a good
Starting point is 00:45:42 question. And so I, so that's one way that I've done it. Another thing, is I try to get the point, which I believe is Jesus. I've said this numerous times. Genesis to Malachi, Jesus is coming to earth. Matthew through John, Jesus is here.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Acts of Revelation. Jesus is coming back. The reason I'm making a point out of that is because I think explaining the point is more important than knowing all the verses. But in that vein, you kind of see how everything supports that thesis.
Starting point is 00:46:17 So I'm always curious, as to make sure that that thesis is true. So I'm constantly studying making sure, well, how did this fit into that arena? So I don't know how that would be, but to me, it's a motivation for me to study. Another thing I was going to say is by doing, by speaking. You know, I get asked to speak, and based on First Peter 315, I'm never going to say no within reason, unless it's something that's not on the up and up. So I try to, because I'm viewing that verse has always be prepared to give an answer to everyone
Starting point is 00:46:54 to ask you to give the reason for the hope that you have to do this. That's basically Adam's question. Yeah. So I study more and study more when I'm having to give a lesson, like at church or a Bible class. Because I'm like, I don't really, I'm not studying to try to share everything, but I want to make sure I don't want to get up there and speak on behalf of God and God's word and say something wrong or stupid. So I spend a tremendous amount of time making sure
Starting point is 00:47:24 whatever point I'm bringing out is actually legitimate. I generally get to the point when they ask a question that I don't know the answer to. I'll say, I don't know the answer to that. But here's what I do know. And I give them what I do know, and I give them the verses. But if I said that that may help you. in that particular area, you know, but I don't mind telling somebody.
Starting point is 00:47:49 That's a good question. I don't know. But none of us. Our mentor, Bill Smith. It doesn't take away from what you do know. Our mentor used to always say, in my studied opinion, I like the way that he framed that because I could be wrong. So that's good advice.
Starting point is 00:48:03 I agree with everything both you all said. I want to say one more thing, though. None of us tried to learn the Bible per se. It just happened by the ways we're discussing. It was the constant use. You just looked up, and when somebody says a verse, I'm like you, I don't know the numbers all the time, but I know where it is on my Bible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Because we just studied it. I know where it is on the page. And I remember our grandparents, you know, instill that in us too, because y'all would have Bible studies and me and Jays would sit in on it. Well, that's true. And don't, look, don't shy away from arguments because being in immature arguments was how I learned a lot of Bible. I got a video this morning from a guy that his nine-year-old son, he videoed, he sent it to,
Starting point is 00:48:52 he was reading the Bible to him. He said, this has become our nightly ritual before he goes to Bay, his nine years ago. He just reads the Bible to his dad. I said, man, that's a double blessing. I mean, the kids learned it, but he's here. I wish I had that when I was young. I didn't. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:05 But, I mean, failing them, they weren't following the Lord, whatever. You can't use that for an excuse. Right. But I did do that with my kids. but I'm just saying practically, you don't have to be very smart to figure this out. If you get hooked on Jesus and you love people, you'll use this because look,
Starting point is 00:49:23 here's what I've found and we can all echo this. It's always right. That's right. It's always true. Never let us down. Every time. All right, that's it for today. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube and be sure to click that little bit bell to get notified about new episodes. And for even more content that you won't get anywhere else, subscribe to blazed TV at blazedtv.com slash lunache.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.