Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 163 | Allen West Is Unashamed, Trump & Stone-Throwers, and Why Christians Need to Vote

Episode Date: October 16, 2020

Lt. Col. Allen West makes his "Unashamed" debut to talk about how the Left stole rugged individualism from people, the breakdown of the American family, the value of a good spanking, the politics of division, and why we need Christians to vote. Jase remembers the time he got spanked in gym class. The guys weigh in on people casting stones at Trump, what's being done to Joe Biden, and why nobody kills a party like Phil. And Phil makes the case for why one little girl in South Carolina proves there's still hope for America. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So we are excited to have a very special guest on the Unashamed podcast. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West is a great patriot. Thank you for your first off, for all your years of service to the country and continuing, because you're still doing a lot of great things. Yes. We continue to try to do good things for the country. And as someone told me that the oath that I took on 31 July 19th,

It doesn't have a statue of limitations. It's an oath for life. I love that. That's really good. So we're in a little bit different environment. Our unashamed audience will notice, Alan, we've had, we were talking before we started rolling that we've had two hurricanes that came through Louisiana and another tropical storm, you know, during till season.

So we have been quite displaced, you know, moving around our area. We didn't have power until last night, so it's been a little bit crazy on our end. So, but, you know, you adapt and overcome, right? Absolutely. Improvides, adapt, overcome, but we still lift you all up in prayer there in Louisiana, Mississippi, because you've been taking it into chin. Yeah, it's been a rough run. To show you how the Almighty operates, West,

it would have taken me about almost a month to move a pump down there and pump our duck place where we duck hunt. It would have taken about a month to pump that. hole full of water for ducks. The almighty rolled through and in one night he filled the whole thing running over. Well, we got too much water. I was like, you know, Lord, call it off here. We're good. Well, that's what you call a silver lining in the Robertson world. We want to fill our ducko. We hate to, it has to take a hurricane to be able to do that. It did save me about $5,000 on diesel to pump the thing up. So we got it free this time.

Well, the good thing for Dad is, and he was talking about this, although it's funny because Dad was making fun of Jason and I for being subdivision guys, you know, and complaining about not having power. And yet he's got a generator that as soon as the power goes off at his house, it will light his whole house up, you know, so he's living in the comforts and making fun of us. Because when you're at the end of the road down in the woods and things happen like you start hearing these gigantic sounds during the night. So I get up the next morning on both these things, one six weeks ago, and then the one Friday night.

So I get out there when the smoke cleared the next morning, and I mean it's just big oak trees. I mean covering the road power lines down. So I walk out, get somebody to meet me with a four-wheeler, and I said, let's go get a backhoe and let's get these trees out of the way. So we cut our way through and open it up to wait and get out of there. But you're the last. I'm just saying, be prepared, boys. You know, you've got one of your generators. I'm just prepared.

I'm not paranoid, but I'm ready for whatever comes. You know, it's interesting, Alan. So one of the observations that I've seen in the hurricanes and everything that's gone on here in Louisiana, compared to a lot of what's been going on in the country, is these storms roll through. And the next day, literally, I see people come out of their homes, instantly go over to their neighbors,

chainsaws, you know, what do you need? Do you need to say somewhere? And I think about it. It's the greatest part of America is community pulling together. And there's groups of people here. I mean, we talk about, we jokingly say this is the redneck heaven because everybody's got a chainsaw and everybody's willing to cut a tree up. And so, but it is amazing to see people come together to be able to help each other versus some of the things we've seen where it's all destruction. I mean, it's like other people's property, whatever. Well, it's interesting that you bring that up because the comparative analysis is you look at our urban population centers. You look at the gang violence.

You look at the drug violence. You look at all of the tearing down of statues and the destruction of property and things of that nature. What you all are talking about, that would never happen out there in the rural areas because, like you said, you come together. And it's all about the fundamental principles and values of the rural areas. And that's what we need to get inculcated back into. those urban population centers. Look, I was born in 1961 in a Blacks-only hospital in Atlanta, Georgia. I grew up in the same inner-city neighborhood that produced Dr. Marlitha King, Jr. And once upon a time, we did have that sense of community. We did have that sense of, you know,

watching over each other and taking care of each other because we had that sense of pride. We had those fundamental principles and values that said that we wanted to be individually responsible and accountable to our health and each other. But guess what happened? All of a sudden, the left comes in, and they take away that sense of being a victor, and they create victims. And so that is what has drawn this difference. You know, out there where you all are living in the rural parts of Louisiana and what have you, you're not about being a victim. Like your dad just, like Phil just said, he got out of his house, he went out there and found someone and they got together and they start, you know, sawing up those trees so they can open up the road.

You didn't sit back there and say, who's going to come do it for me. That's right. That's what rugged individualism is all about. But the left, the Democrat Party, that's taking it away from people. It's a great point. It is. And you're right. By the way, so let me go on the record.

You will never, ever, ever see me walking down the road inside a city limits of a town with a stick and a sign whatever is written on it. I'm not getting in the street with a sign, West. I'm just not going to do it. I'm looking at them and I'm thinking, what in the world? I saw one other day.

It said, little girls, 25-year-old girls, we're going to hell and we're proud. I'm like, walk down a city street with a sign over your head that says, oh, I'm going to hell, but we're proud.

I'm thinking, what in the world ever happened to the United States of America? It's a sad thing more than a mad thing. I'm looking at them and I'm like, man, give me a break. Well, you know, again, Phil, when you look at the breakdown of the family, you know, even though I was born in a Black's Only hospital in 1961, the two-parent household in the black community across the United States of America at that point was somewhere about 75 to 77 percent. I remember that. I remember it.

Today is 24%. And so when you start to break down the family structure, guess what happens? Everything else breaks down. The community breaks down. The church breaks down. Because you don't have that strong foundation of a mother and a father in the home, raising up the children, as it says in Proverbs 226. When you train up a child in the way that they should go,

when they grow old, they shall not depart from it. They certainly are not going to go out in the streets with a sign. says, you know, we're all going to hell and I'm proud of it. My daddy and my mama would come down out of heaven and beat me still. Yeah, you want to get that belt on your butt. Just go ahead and say, you know, I'm going to hell and I'm proud. I'm like, I still live in fear of Buck and Snoops West coming out of heaven. I'm telling you.

Because that's my basement. That's a great point. And we're still that way with dad as well. Alan, he's, you know, we respect him. and he instill that in us, you know. And so it's really interesting because we get to do this podcast together now and do a lot of, you know, great Bible study and all that. But, I mean, Jason and I and my brothers and now sister, we respect that, you know,

because they instill that in us. And you're right. And we're generational faith. We're generational independence. We all have our own businesses. I mean, all that is built out of what you said earlier. It's just that American ideal that for so long, work so well. And now you've got people just wanting to turn it.

it on its head and destroy it, really. When the apostle Paul was talking to that bunch of brains in Acts 17, he said, from one man, God made every nation of men. He determined the time set for him, the exact places they should live. He did this so men might reach out and seek him, perhaps find him, though he's not far from any one of us. Now, just think about it. We have the human race.

we all came from Adam just look west at what they've done to that this what color you're with this I mean you're like just nonsense just one race on planet earth it's called the human race

and you can get out of here alive but that's the politics of division that's when you get into the identity politics and that's how you as the old maxim goes you divide and you conquer And that's what we see happening, even here in the United States of America. And that's one of the primal senses of socialist, Marxism, of course, is based upon pitting different

classes against each other. But now we're taking it to the point where we're pitting different races and whatever we can find to separate people with pitting that against each other. But, you know, you just brought up another great point because you talk about how you respect the authority of your dad. Now, imagine if you don't have that dad. in the home. And then imagine if you don't foster that type of respect for authority. And so when we have broken down that respect for authority, because we've broken down that respect for family,

the traditional nuclear family, then you don't have respect for teachers. And you see that in our schools. That's right. Then you don't have respect for our government institutions and authorities because we don't have people that are teaching that. Then you don't have respect for our law enforcement because you don't respect in regard anything out there because you basically just been told you, can do whatever you wish and whatever you want. And so when, when people have said, you know, when Barack Obama said back in 2008, we're five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America, looking where we are now. So Lisa and I met you and your wife on a cruise a couple of years ago that we were doing with Brent Roselle for MRC. So that was how we got

to know you. So a few months after that, I guess it was maybe it was earlier this year or last year, the guys that my faith votes were connected then because they do our books and stuff. And so they were like, go ahead. Jason Yates. Yeah, that's right. So he sent me an email. He said, you wouldn't have to know Lieutenant Colonel Allen West, would you? Because we were talking with him maybe about being our national spokesman.

And so I was just wondering if you guys had known. I said, well, I'd just spend a week with him. He's one of the smartest, most articulate people I've ever met my life. I said, I couldn't think of a better spokesman for my vote. votes. So it's interesting, you didn't know that I said that about you, but I mean, I think that's true and love that week we had with you. Tell our audience a little bit about my faith votes, because dad has also been one of the faces for this thing as well in terms of what the purpose is for it. Well, the purpose is to get Christians to understand their faith. I was with Pastor Hagey down

in Cornerstone Christian Church in San Antonio a couple of Sundays ago. He has a great line called Boatcher with the Bible, vote your values, vote your faith. And faith votes is really out there trying to get the Christian community four years ago in 2016, the number somewhere between 25 and 30 million Christians did not vote. Wow. I mean, and when you have that sizable of a number, that has a trickle-down effect on the culture here in the United States of America. And so my faith votes is really focused on getting the Christian community informed, educated, and activated to be a part of the electoral process. Because if we don't, think about this on the most sacred day in the Judeo-Christian faith heritage. That's Easter. That's the day that it's all about our faith. That's resurrection day.

Churches were closed. But you could have gone to Home Depot. You could have gone to Walmart. The night before, you could have gone to a liquor store. If you live in certain states, you could have gone to a marijuana store. And so when Christians decide to sit it out, then you get the type of secular leadership that then will come back and say that churches are non-essential. Yeah. There's anything that is essential for the United States of America. It's our Judeo-Christian faith heritage. And you look at California right now where they still have churches that are locked up, shut, close. You have a pastor out there with Grace Community Church, Pastor John McDonald, who is defying the orders of Governor Newsom. He's being threatened.

for going to jail. You think about Jack Phillips, the baker from Colorado who had to go before the Supreme Court because he just didn't want to, you know, bake a cake for a same-sex marriage because he said, that's against my faith, that's against my belief, that's against your very first liberty, your freedom of religion and the free exercise thereof. So if Christians, through my faith votes, if they don't understand their responsibility, not just to be subject to government, but to be subject to righteous government. That's the key thing. And so we got to start, you know, going back to the basics.

You know, it says in Romans 12, chapter one that we're not supposed to conform to this world. We're supposed to transform this world. And we cannot transform it if we're not participating in that thing called an election. Oh, amen. Yeah, I'll put in my book, Jesus Politics. Pay attention to the individual politicians and their platforms. ask yourself before you vote, are they God fearing? Do they give more than just lip service to the king?

This old thing about just God bless America, maybe for a long time. I said, you know what? I said, I notice I don't hear politicians ever saying, we love you. I said, I'm beginning to think maybe they don't. That's right. Trump comes along. I've met with him three times. short visits, but I did speak about spiritual matters. I pointed him to Jesus. I reminded him that

we're all sinners. I said, Trump, you have sin, haven't you? He said, oh yeah. I said, well, the next problem you have is a six-foot hole waiting on you. I said, we all go down in the grave, man. So that was my warm up to point him to Jesus saying he removed your sin on the cross. He'll raise you from the dead, Trump. I said, you got a better story? He said, I said, I I do not. I'm like, well, you better move on it is all I'll tell you. I said, I hope you win the election. Well, he did, but I will say that he's pro-God, pro-Christianity, any way you want to slice it. And he's pro-second amendment. He's pro-duck hunting. I said, that's all I want. I'm not asking for the moon here, Alan. He's the most pro-life president that we have ever seen.

That's correct. There's never been another. the president that showed up for the march, March for life. And so I think that the Christian community needs to understand is that, you know, God had Cyrus, Nebuchadnezzar, and Xerces that he moved upon their heart to do things for his people. And if Christian isn't about word about someone that's perfect, I mean, let's remember that David, you know, sent a man to the front lines, Jariah the Hittah so that he could kill so that he could get Bathsheba. And, you know, Solomon, the wise, this man that God ever blessed. You know, he wasn't exactly the model of family values.

I think he was about 300 and 400 wives. So we don't need to think that we know better than God. We don't know who God is sending to intercede for his people in a time such as this. You know, but not only that, you know, the Apostle Paul going around persecuting Christians to their death, having them murdered, and he's the one that Jesus struck down on the road and said, hey, Go to the Gentiles. Got a job for you to do. And so he got the Apostle Paul's attention on a road to Damascus.

But he ended up writing most of the New Testament, a known murderer and persecutor and blasphemer. You're like, boy, God does work in the, that shit tells you, Alan. I mean, look, God's bent over backwards to save us, and we ought to pay attention to it. And to Alan's point, you think about it, in God's wisdom, he took a Hebrew of Hebrews, you know, a Pharisee of Pharisees to be the one to bring the primary to the Gentile. Human wisdom would have never done that. I mean, we would have never said that was a good idea. And yet, God knew what he was doing, you know, when it comes to picking leaders, you know,

which is important. And we want to encourage all of our audience. I mean, we need every single vote because one thing for sure is just like the last election. When you look at the alternative, then there is no alternative. I mean, what we're looking at is going off a cliff. from my perspective. Do you agree with that, Alan? I mean, you see it as such a, I mean, it seems like a tipping point again. It is. And what I tell people, you know, I was elected as the chairman of the Republican Party of Texas on the 20th of July. And congratulations, by the way. The choice is very simple. Either you stand for the rule of law and law and order or the rule of the mob and the chaos and the violence that you see out on our streets.

And, you know, the lack of safety about defunding. the police. They're talking about taking away your ability to be able to defend yourself. I mean, the Second Amendment is your individual right. It's part of your Bill of Rights. And you have a person running for Vice President on the Democrat side that it said she would use executive orders to take away the Second Amendment. That dog don't hunt. And you think about, you know, they need victims. They don't want to economically empower people. They want to economically enslave them. And they want to turn the streets over to what has become a domestic terrorist insurgency. That's what Black Lives Matter are. So this is the playbook of socialism, Marxism, and communism. And here it is knocking on

the doors of the greatest nation that the world has ever known, the United States of America. I'm telling you. You're exactly right. One last thing I wanted to ask you about, because you did serve in Congress a few years ago. And I wanted to know about your experience of doing that because, you know, we always kind of look at it from the outside and it seems so, what would you call it? Just rotten is the word of coming to my mind, but it just seems so corrupt, I guess, in a general sense. And so you were on the inside of that.

Now you're obviously on the outside of that. What's your take on not only your time in Congress, but sort of what happens there as to why that body just doesn't seem to be serving our country for a pretty good while now? Well, the thing is that we almost understand, as Benjamin, Benjamin Franklin said on September 17, 1787, when our Constitution was signed, that, you know, he was asked a question, is it a republic or a monarchy? He said it's a republic if you can keep it. So the people we have in these elected positions are a reflection of who we are as the American people. And until we start to understand our fundamental principles and values, and still we start to restore education that is based upon our history and understanding civics and reading our Constitution ourselves,

then you're going to continue to get people that are up there that don't truly understand the nature of a constitutional republic. Look, you know, this whole COVID-19 thing, no elected official has an enumerated power or right to be able to determine who and what is essential in the United States of America. That's right. We had people that just rolled over and allowed it to happen. So guess what is occurring? You are transferring your individual sovereignty. And why do I say individual sovereignty? because the rights of individuals come from the creator God.

The creator of God is sovereign in the United States of America, and therefore you are sovereign. But we're transferring our sovereign rights and our liberties and our freedoms over to these elected officials. That is true. Upon the self-interest and also special interests. So I think that what has to happen more than anything else, the American people got to re-engage.

They have to be better informed, better educated, and then they can make the right decisions about the people that they send to Washington, D.C., or they send to the governor's mansions or state houses and state senators all the way down to the city councils. So that's what has to happen. And I will tell you that it was an honor to serve in the United States Congress. You know, I was just a simple soldier and I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution. I did it in uniform. I continued to do it, but I got the opportunity to do it there in that institution. But not everyone understood it, that oath. And I think that that's why I really support getting more veterans into elected

office. We've taken an oath that you've been willing to lay down your life for that oath. It means something to you. Yeah. It's a great job. Well, we just, I mean, I've been a big fan of yours for a long time. It's been interesting for me to see how God is, you know, taking you through your different positions to serve and to help our country. So you definitely fit into the unashamed motif that the three of us loves. So that's been. really great. So my faith votes, if any of you want to check into that and see how you might can help and get involved

there, mainly you've got to get out and vote and we've got to vote godly. Those that can help the godly, that's what we want the most. Thank you so much, Alan, be sure and give our best to your wife and family as well. Absolutely, God bless and God be with y'all. Make sure you get out the vote.

Thanks, man. So that was an interesting conversation with Alan West. Hey, I was getting lathered up. I mean, that guy, why is it that I feel like every guest we have on the podcast is way smarter than all three of us put together? Because they are. He was pushing my buttons because I've always said this. I'm not a big political guy because of what you said when you asked him, you know, there's a, it just comes across as a little dirty, you know, to be a politician.

And I just don't like that because I don't know who's real and who's not. No, are you just saying this because you want me to vote for you? Are you believing this because that's your party? And so I just, I vote on a godly basis. I look at the principles that are in this Bible. And whoever has the most qualities, that's where I'm voting. Sometimes the fruit of the spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, faith, when it's gentle self-control, sometimes that's a little slow and

coming from the politicians in America. You really have to use a sifter. And you say, boy, we're running out of good men around here. And like he said, I think it's the core of the people. Because he talked about how he was brought up. He talked about his parents in heaven coming down to whack him around. If he went off the path, he was in. When he said that, though, you know, I got to thinking about this.

When I was a kid, I'm pretty sure I got a spangian not only from both parents, both grandparents, various aunts and uncles. And probably even me somewhere down the way. It's not even stopping. And teachers and principals at my schools. I mean, I'm like, man, I was a terrible kid. But I looked back on it and I thought, you know what?

I needed my butt tore up. and I liked it that the principal came in there and said, you know, one of the worst spanking that I got at a school is because he put me in charge. He said, we're not going to have a substitute, and this is in PE. And he said, here's what I want y'all to do while I'm going to be gone tomorrow.

And he put me in charge. He said, we're going to run track. I was like, I got it. Great. So when he wasn't there, I gathered up. This guy's put me in charge. And I was like, if no one, says anything.

We're going to play basketball because I don't want to run track. That's the dumbest thing ever. If we stick together, does everybody agree we're going to stick together? The whole class said, we're sticking together. All guys. So we play basketball.

I know where this is going. The next day, he walked in and said, everybody up against a wall. And I thought, this Joker fixed to spank us in school. Back then, you could do it. and three licks everybody and he looked at me and said i'm disappointed in you disobeyed instructions so what did i do say boy yeah we should have done right no i thought who is the snitch because we're

fixed to whoop him with hey that that's what you do when you're in prison you smell a rat yeah so i'm confessing my sins here well and i don't know about that one because i don't know how old were you then do you remember heathen that's great because the rule was that for us is it if you get licks at school or if I get a call from the teacher that you've been doing something you know that you shouldn't be doing then whatever you get there is duplicated at the house I mean that was just your rule was you respect the authority of the teacher because you were a teacher in the coach well that's the one that didn't get back to the house because usually when they speak you they yeah but he he just did that in house right

and I figured the statute of limitations is up now Phil because you probably it's first time you've heard that story That's funny. And that's what he was talking about. It's just a great, smart point that when you take authority out at the beginning, I mean, first from a parent, for two-parent structure home, which we talked about this on a previous podcast, then you start breaking down how people respect authority in a culture. And he was right.

He goes to school. Then it goes just right down the line. Disrespecting your mother, three licks. open antagonism and screaming up the top of your lungs, which comes to a certain amount of scuffling, a big argument, three licks for everybody involved. And the last thing is tearing up perfectly good equipment for no good reason. And that one I disagree with.

But you win with them. You don't kill possums and snakes with boat paddles. You get something else because you break your boat paddles. I think we revisit this about every 20 podcast. Every 20 podcast, I'm just reminding. Here's the problem. When you don't have any money.

I'm just reminding people of y'all's roots. Now, you're right on the authority. And what I realize is that we all make mistakes. And so we have a system that I've had to overcome because when you don't have much money, you buy cheap equipment. Then if you have a rule where if I tear up, then I get a, I get chastised. Disrespecting old men, three licks. I agree with that.

Your teachers, three licks. Disrespecting an old woman, instead of opening in a door for you're tapping her out, you're getting hostile, three licks. So those things, you know, but just built into the system. No disrespect. I got a question for you, Dad.

Because this is a hypothetical. So we find out about Phyllis, but by the time we meet her, she's 44, if Phyllis had grown up with us, if we had discovered it earlier and she had been part of our family, would you have been able, would the same thing have applied to Phyllis,

because you have four sons. Would you have had the same approach to her? Good question. It would have been difficult for me to dispense raps on the posterior end of women. I just, I don't think I could have. I was very curious about saying daughter. Now, y'all have daughters. Yeah, I had no problem.

I had no problem. I think I've only given me a maybe two. She didn't get, mine two didn't get many either. But they did get, but the way. ones they got, but the level of the crime, oh yeah, you won't have a problem with it. Yeah. You know, if you, if you lie. I never had to face that. Yeah. Because Philly's 45 years old and we met her, you know. So, you know, once, once, you know, air code was they get about, you know, 15, 14 to 15. I'd say 15, almost out of high school, the days of the, of the strap, that's over. Now let's talk. The last one you gave me, which we've talked about was I was 16. We all got drunk. When you can get to the point where you're getting drunk,

you're probably going to be past the point where the corporal punishment is going to work. And it was. Well, a lot of people argue about that. But, I mean, I'm like in a place now, just do something. I mean, when he said 24%, I mean, one out of four? That's it. That's it. That's among the black community.

Overall, I read the other day, that we're down to about 40% of family structures have a mother and a father. Well, if 60% do not have that, there's coming, there's going to be a downturn like you haven't seen lately. And these people are champions of it, this Democratic Party. So we're hanging by a thread here the way it looks to me. Well, to me, you should be rewarding people who follow that family structure instead of penalizing them through government, whatever. instead of the opposite. You shouldn't be rewarding.

I realize there's opportunities to help, but somewhere we need to find a way to reward that because the consequences of having 24% with one parent, well, you know that's not going to be good. I mean, look at the, when I shared all my spankings and chastisement, oh, I needed that. What we've done, what the Democrats are trying to do, erroneously, by the way,

my view of Donald Trump is not based on his personality at all. Men have different kinds of personalities. Correct. But policy, if you look at his policies, that's right there. That's the number one thing. You say, what about his policies? When he said something, did he carry it out? Did he do it?

Well, over and over and over and over, whether he's dealing with other leaders of the world or inside the United States, cutting taxes. I mean, you know, getting rid of all these regulations, fracking, getting, we're the number one superpower now. We're a superpower as far as energy is concerned. We're all independent for the first time. Who did that? You say, the policies of Donald Trump. You said, well, he's a little caustic.

He's a little rough around the edges. I said, oh, I don't care. I don't care about his personality. I'm not worried about that. So he's a little bit belligerent at times and a little rough around the edge. What about his policies? I'm looking at them and they line up and everything he said he was going to do, he did it. But Phil, the point is he made that point.

And he's pro-God. So you say, well, as a Christian, you're like, well, I'm glad that, you know. So he's pro-life. I said, well, of course he should be. So you just stack the policies up and look at that. And if you're a subdivision woman, said, oh, well, he just kind of. it gets on my nerves. I say, well, honey, I'd just live with that because what about his policies? He's getting more money in your pocket. That's right. But he was saying you only have

two choices. It's not, you, who are you going to pick? It's not like you're saying, oh, I wish someone was perfect. Well, that's Jesus. So we're going to vote Jesus first because he's only one that's perfect. But then when you have two candidates, well, we all have flaws. I was listening the other day I was telling you about it to a sermon. by T.D. Jakes, and it was on John 8, and the name of it was don't run with the herd. And he basically came up with the scenario of, you know, the woman called an adultery. She's brought. We got two groups of religious people now who are trying to trap Jesus by saying, let's stone this woman. And technically they were right, because in the law, they had a right,

that's what they did back there in that culture. And so Jesus, what's he going to do? thing. Well, how's he going to get out of it? But he came up with that statement after he stooped to the ground and said nothing. He didn't participate in the banter and the riot and all the, you know, pick aside, which is, because he was kind of given this visual image of what we have now. We have, everybody has a herd, and they're looking at somebody that's different, and they're going up against that herd, and everybody has a propensity as human beings to pick rocks up and throw it at the other herd.

And so it was a fascinating lesson, but he got to the end where Jesus made that famous statement, and he said, you without sin, throw the first stone. Because if you can stop that first stone from being thrown, we've avoided what's wrong with our country here. Of course, we know how this story went, but I thought, you know, what are... About half of us are stone throwers. Well, that's right. Well, that's the first thing they do when you brought up Trump. Well, you got half the population.

They're picking up the rock because they're like, well, look, this guy is flawed. But you've got to realize you can say that about everybody. So you've got to have some system by which you vote. And if it's not God first, godly principles, you know, the things we pro-life of what we've talked about, what are you going to do? Let's take a quick break. You ever sinned? You know, Donald Trump, he'd come out of a rough background.

I mean, you know, sinful behavior. I'm like, I did too. And you look around, you say, well, who's without sin? So how many time do you forgive somebody? Seven? Well, Jesus said 70 times seven. That's why I said personality. That's the least of my words.

Well, I think the Supreme Court is the perfect example. I mean, you look at the opportunity, and it was amazing that one president got three opportunities in his four years to put three justices to nominate them onto the court. court. But look at where we were in decisions by the Supreme Court for the last few decades, because, you know, you're getting more and more, they're getting away from the Constitution. Now Trump has the opportunity to put three traditional constitutional justices on the Supreme Court, and these are lifetime appointments. So you're talking about now for the next, and all these other

courts. I mean, think about that. That's going to shape our country for the next 30, 40 years. That comes under the heading of what our head. his policies. Don't worry about his personality. Get to the policies. I get over the caustic nature of his coming back. Oh, I live with that. No problem.

Right. Of course it's funny. I don't vote for people based on personality. If I did, just think about that. I mean, we got Joe Biden the other day saying I mean, you get out there and vote, you know, because I'm running for the Senate of the United States of America. Look, that's a week ago. The man's running for president and got

confused and said, no, I'm running for the Senate. I'm like, well, it is kind of funny. I said, Joe. It is kind of funny. You're right, Dad, that people who have made the argument that they don't like Trump because he's so caustic and the way he is and like the debate and all that. But then you would say, so I'm going to, like Jay said, it's a binary situation here. So I'm going to turn around for the guy that really can't even talk without somebody showing him the word. And doesn't know the difference between running for president and running for the Senate. He's obviously in dementia. And none of us relish that. I mean, it makes me sad to see. I look at

Vice President Biden's family and I'm just like if you were there, Dad, because we have a lot of dimension in our family history, if you were in his situation, I would be the first one sitting down with Jason and said, we can't put Dad out there and try to force him. By the way, if I ever start suffering from that ailment,

which a lot of them, Tommy, my older brother. There's been three or four out of it. Oh, it hit him, yeah. Some of my family members, so I'm very used to it. I want you boys remember something. When I start showing the signs of dementia, now I know I'm a little, I'm a little costing myself at times, but I don't mind when you all tell me, said, Dad, let me feel you in on some details here. The beginning stages of dementia is upon you. I'm like,

I got you. Learn to live with it. Don't stick me in some home somewhere. You know, put me in a little cabin down on the river. I'll be all right. Trust me, I'm sure I'll be nominated to be the spokesperson. You go there as post-person, Judge. Trust me now, I will never argue with you about it. What are you doing about it? Nope. I'm going to say, okay. Well, that's my point.

Like, it's up to generations to not put your parents or your children in situations where they'll fail. And so to me, I'm just offended as a son when I see a guy put out there in a situation that he can't handle mentally. That's right. And you're trying to put him in a position to run the entire country. It's insane to me. I can't even believe it's a choice, and yet you've got people like you said. And if it goes down during the four years, we've got the ones going to take his place. Kamala Harris.

I'm like, whoa, I just see one nightmare after the other. It's a bad scenario. We really need to. Besides, I think the next oldest judge. You godly better get out there, 25 million of you didn't even vote. You better get your tail up and you better vote this time. And look, part of the- Forget personality, vote policy.

That's a good. There you go. be on my faith. You could have been the national spokesperson for my faith votes. No, they'd have got mad. It's why they got fired up. I'd have stuck my foot in my mouth one more time too much. Well, you're too preaching for most people. But that, to be honest, the purpose of the podcast is to his greater point, Alan West greater point, that we have to somehow change the whole culture. We got to, you know, by getting Jesus back into the whole Well, when he said that about, which I hadn't thought about it, when they started deeming what was essential,

well, the most essential thing that you have on the planet is getting off of it. That's right. Yeah. And there's no other way outside of Jesus. He made up a good point because I was just looking at the trees and I missed the forest when they're like, oh, you can't sing. You know, in California they were like, you can't sing in church. Because we don't want to give somebody the coronavirus. even though you have a mask or when you go to pray we got to do it one at a time at the building but then

you can go down you tank communion because somebody might some guy asked me other day you can go to home depot and buy everything you know you're bumping into people some guy asked me other days that have you ever thought about running for president i said let me see now i'm a c plus man who points people to jesus with those two uh accolades and with that kind of acumen a c plus man and you're You're halling about Jesus. I said, boy, I'm asking for a lot of trouble here if I went down that road. Woo! Well, after seeing the treatment of Trump and his family in this last four years, I wonder why anybody would want to run for president.

I mean, I admire these people because I'm like, you talk about white hot every moment of your life. Well, that's probably true on both sides. I mean, no matter who you are, you're just going to be attacked. But, you know, it's not much different from following Jesus. in an unashamed manner. I mean, I did an event last night. I think they were shocked when I brought up Jesus because I was introduced as the one

who was going to provide the entertainment. But I thought to myself, I'm also going to give you a way off the planet. It's like the time they invited me to speak, some group, and one of our sponsors, I walked in the door. I was their guest speaker, and the first thing I noticed,

there was a bar in the back, and the liquor was flowing, and they had a rap band getting after it. A rap band? A rap. Rappers. They were rapping on the stage. It seemed like a weird contrast. And the liquor was flowing, and they had invited yours truly here, y'all's dad,

to speak at this event. When I got up there, I was there. Your mother told me, your mother told me later, she said, I have never seen a party die out. She said, you single-handedly, people were hiding their bars. The rap band left. I mean, I thought, well, they asked me to speak.

Let's back up here. So somebody asked you to come speak, and they thought it was a good idea to have a rap band open for you? Let's take a quick break. And when I saw it, I said, well, I've never told you that party was going down. I said, I've never spoken about Jesus in front of this type group, but let's give her a word. So they were actually, they did rap, but they did like a, they did like cover songs from the 70s of like, you know, all that rhythm and blue stuff. You know, it was in Memphis is where we were. But dad's right.

I mean, it was a party pooper, you know. Because when he, the louder he got, you know, all of a sudden it was just people were still trying to talk at first. Then all of a sudden it was just, nope. It is worthy of note that the company stayed with us. They did. But they never invited me to speak again. No. They started getting me inside.

No call back, Jay. What are you saying? I wish I could say it. Well, look, I had a similar, I mean, it was a good event last night. I was in South Carolina. And it was, they were raising money for cancer research. But it was not a church thing. These were people with money.

And we all united, let's attack cancer. Well, Jay, you made an interesting point. The point is, it doesn't have to be a church thing. Oh, that's right. If you say we're going to go out on a limb and ask these people to speak, we know what they're going to say, and they're not going to come up here and sugarcoat it. They're just going to come up and point you to Jesus because you said it. Life and immortality riding on it, we might ought to look into this carefully.

Well, you know, I told them about. Especially about cancer. I mean, you know, that's... I told them about all the kids. I've met, I mean, hundreds that we've prayed with, we've talked to, we've seen them die. I mean, it's, it was, and I told them, I was, and seen a lot of them live. Yeah. I said, but I'll tell you this, if you want to really look at the answer, the problem is that

we're perishable. And I've used your line, even if you live a perfect life as far as physically and are in great shape your entire life, whatever happens. a tree falls on you or you have a car right you're gonna die that's it the problem is we're perishable and i'm into i'm introducing a person a being that there's a lot of evidence that he was here we have the bible we have you know DNA i mean i had all my my little arguments there he's imperishable he has the ability to control the atoms and the molecules i just thought since we're here to talk about that this would be a good option.

And the requirements are love him and love your neighbor. I still don't see the downside. There is no downside. Yeah. I mean, that's exactly right. Which I like that boldness, though, and we all do it. And we speak, like most of the times we get invited to stuff that's spiritual in nature, so it's easier, you know, to do those.

But all of us have been in settings where it was unexpected, and some people didn't even appreciate it. sure you had a few walkouts. I had a few walkouts. But here's what's interesting. You know, the first thing I did, they said, they said, no, what we thought about doing. You know, they were kind of whispering. We wouldn't do a duck call contest, you know, before you speak.

And so we'll get up. And I was like, do you duck hunt? He said, no. I've never been duck hunt. I said, won't you just let me handle the duck call on? I can, this is my world. And they were all the little committee was like, I said, trust me, I got this.

I said, bring the contestants. Well, I was surprised when we got up there. There was only three contestants. There were two 50-year-old men and an eight-year-old girl. And I'm in South Carolina. Time's hard. And I looked in their hands, and they all had a mallard call. We know, South Carolina, there's a bunch of wood ducks there, very few mallards.

Not many mallards. And so I asked. We're in a strange location. Are we good? Was that gunfire? We're at our church, remember, so just bear with us with strange noise. Technically at the church building. That's true.

We'll talk about that later. And so I leaned down, and then I thought, no, I'm not going to say this. I got the mic, and I said, look, we're in South Carolina. Your number one duck is a wood duck. Y'all have Mallard calls. I said, I'm looking at the three contestants. I look at this eight-year-old girl. I said, but I've got a feeling that you're going to win.

until the crowd. Here's this little girl. I said, look at the courage. Yeah. And I said, how long have you been practicing your dog? You know what that proves? You know what that proves? That's coming right out of South Carolina, a good southern state,

if a little girl is entering a duck call contest, Jace, there's still hope for America. I've thought the same thing. So look, I said, how long have you been using this call? And she said, I just got it today. I said, okay, I'm going to explain how duck calls works. So they all listened. I did the thing for the whole audience.

I talked about how you had the vision. It was perfect because you had the little girl as your point of like you're teaching her. So then you're able to do it for the audience. And I said you have two options. You can go championship style. Well, I did it. And look, I rang that high ball. When I got to about the 50th note, because I just kept on, the crowd started clapping.

And I don't know if they were trying to keep me standing or they thought I was going to pass that. I did. So I stopped. I said, now, ducks don't do that. Everybody laugh. I said, but you can go that approach in your competition. Of course, they're looking like, how in the world am I going to do that? Or you can go, and I talked about meat calls.

I talked about what an actual mallard hen did. I quoted Genesis 9, the birthplace of duck hunting. This whole idea was based on matching the sound with the duck. So after all that, I said, okay, contestant number one. So the first 50-year-old guy, well, he tried to go the highball. Yep. It came across as like he was trying to blow a trumpet and something was stuck in it. It just went,

no cadence, no notes, no five to seven, no feed call. And so it was just kind of a smattering. And I said, that was a start. Nobody laughed. I said, contestant number two. Same thing. Just nothing. So then I basically got to the girl and I said, look,

I'm going to be honest because I can tell you're a little nervous. You're eight. This is a strange environment. I said, but these two gentlemen, dear, Lowe, have set the bar solo. I said, I'm pretty convinced that if you maintain a pulse and make a sound, an audio sound out of this call, you will win. And look, she picked that duck call up, and the difference in her and the two guys, she listened.

She did a quack. Whack. And then she went, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack. The crowd went nuts. And she was fixed to blow some more. I said, don't screw it. Shoot her down.

You won. No when to stop. And not only did she win, she really did win. Yeah. And I thought, you know, maybe that's why Jesus said unless you change,

it become like little children. Because she was listening. She thought, I'm going to try to sound like a dog. And she did what I did. She didn't try to do more than a duck. She just did it. So it was actually pretty good. You get a little life lesson in there, which is pretty good.

All right, well, we're out of time. Good episode. So I guess the theme for today is vote, vote godly, and vote for the choices that are obvious. I mean, to me, it's so obvious. I don't usually don't like to tell people how to vote, but I don't tell you how I'll vote. I'll vote for Trump without a doubt because of his record and his policy.

and what he's done. And I think it's better for the country. So anyway, it's a no-brainer. Make you a list. Here's the godly principles that are represented on both sides and then vote accordingly. There you go. Good advice. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube and be sure to click that little bell

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