Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 167 | Phil Robertson's Crazy Coffee Mix-Up, Disrespect, and Is It Rude to Say 'Ma'am'?

Episode Date: October 23, 2020

Phil shares a cringe-worthy coffee catastrophe, courtesy of Dan. Phil, Jase, and Al try to figure out why some people can't stand to be called "sir" or "ma'am," and they ponder why it drives some people crazy to have a door held open for them. The guys discuss recognizing people by the fruit they bear, and Jase says we have too many rock-throwers and not enough foot-washers. Phil also explains what a "stem-winder of a hairdo" is. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So I'll just lead that into that. Well, Phil was going to talk about the coffee or something. No, I'm going to ask him about it. So we've got some good coffee here to get us going. We're still in our makeshift. This is our last couple of podcasts. Hopefully, Lord Will, another hurricane doesn't show up.

This is our last makeshift, WFR. And you think about it, we had, my electricity had never gone off for more than an hour in 13 years living up here in town right and then it goes off for five days so everybody's like why and you have a generator i was like well for 13 years i didn't need one right and i'm not sure they'd hold up that much well then missy said let's go buy a generator of course couldn't find one at that point because everybody just bought one and i was like what are the odds that are this going to happen again and then what was it a month later yeah does again down for three days so then I called the energy company because I was like, because right across the street, they got power.

I said, what's it cost to get hooked up on that line? You know what he said? You need to go buy it, generator. He said what dad said. I said, well, just give me the number and let me deal with it. He said, I'd go buy a generator. I was like, yeah, but just for funzy. So I called Missy and told that and she's like, I want that number. I was like, babe, what do you mean today? it's a big one I'm sure so so there was interesting I told you I was we talked about on previous podcast that

we bought two generators I mean we were waiting before them come up the truck that didn't make me feel and then neither one of them lasted a day so I load them back up on the truck

Lisa goes out there because I told you she was going to get the money back and I was wrong she didn't get the money back she comes back with two more brand new generator but look you know look let me tell you this

I told Missy are the same model same model same one now the boxes aren't tore up on this so i don't know well missy picked one out and said what about this one i said nope don't want that i said that's too cheap she's like well why would they be offering i said that's for people who are trying to save some money and buy a generator well after that story happened she's like i guess al lisa were the ones who's talking about it's like can't buy a cheap generator the our problem was it was the only ones in town cheap or not but look they they cost a thousand dollars a piece is that i mean is that cheap on the generate

That's cheap, is it? Oh, is that I didn't know. But now we, I am getting the big boy at the house. I mean, I'm convinced of that. It may not happen for another seven years. It's been about six years for me. I just watch one thing. Unlike every 13 years, when you get dependent on somebody, the Apostle Paul had it right. You know, live a quiet life, mind your own business, and work hard. So your daily life or win the respect to out of it. So that you won't have to be depended. pendant on anybody. So you've got that as an admonition. So you say, well, how often did you find yourself in a situation where you would lose power, complete power, gone?

And you had to drag up some, I had like a welding machine. I kept the electricity. However, though, Phil. I kept the, I had the welding machine. I'd already purchased it. I knew I had that in case the power went out. So I pull the welder up there, gasoline job, maybe four or five hours, fill it up again.

But we had electricity in first one thing and other. So we did pretty well. But from that, I thought, well, for coming to handle pretty big bucks, I'll just go top of the line all, you know, where if my power leaves a 10-second delay, you don't have power, and then it automatically comes on, and it'll run for. for a month. It's got enough fuel for a month. So I decided when I'm getting into the generator business, I've noticed I said about a couple of times a year, we lose our electricity.

Yeah. But I live way out of a subdivide. I'm down there at the end of the road in the woods. So the bottom line is when you have to cut your way out for a mile with chainsaws and heavy equipment just to get out, get up the road, it happened to us twice. this month, but I already had the generator there prepared for such an event as that, and it might have come along 30 years later, but at least I'd have been sitting there saying, I'm ready, whatever happens. But see, my theory is the reason you're not dependent on anybody is because the people that are around you are not dependable.

Now, it's like your coffee. You tell me about this coffee. I'm like, how can a man drink three-year-old coffee? Well, you can tell the story, but you were dependent on someone. A connoisseur of fine coffee, they never relegate the particular skill set it takes to get a good cup of coffee. It's difficult. Most people, what do you do? How many grounds?

How many grounds? How much water? They don't understand. But this morning I was in a bind because the beavers bored tunnels underneath my levee. The six-inch rain come along. they did it when the water was low on the side that we duck on water was down so they board holes tunnels all the way through the thing about three of them unbeknown to me i didn't know they had done that well you didn't get an email about a six-inch rain hits and the water goes to the top of that

levee overnight what would have taken me a month to pump it in there the almighty did it in one night. So I went down there and I noticed that, of course, I opened it wide open and just let it blow out. But I looked on the left hand side of that pipe and I saw a big ball there. I thought, so I said, hmm, I said, that looks like that's not going through the pipe. I wonder how it's getting there. Well, as we started draining down, we noticed that when we shut the pipe back down, now we got full stop. Water was still coming out of that. And I said, there is a hole through this levee somewhere. Well, I couldn't see it on, I looked all around.

And finally, I walked up about 20 yards from where the water was boiling beside the pipe I had just closed. I walked up about, and I was looking out there at that water. I was looking for any kind of swirl or like a little slow commode-flush circle. I was looking for a circle of water somewhere. because that much water would create its source would tell me when I walked up about 20 yards and I looked out there and I saw it was about this big around it was doing like this just sitting there of course there's about six feet of water on it so it was just making a little deal like this I got

red I called them up said get down there with that track hole I came down and I walked up I said see that little commode flush there see that little circle he said he said that's what that water 20 yards away that's where that water's going i said it's going through this side right there i said you got to you got a plug that and look it was at an angle so it was like 20 yards of levy right down the right down the middle of the levee concrete dirt concrete dirt and all so i got him out there and i mean and with in 30 minutes he had a trinked cut you know eight foot deep I mean, piling on both sides. He was just trying to, from the spot that was twirling,

he had to dig the whole tunnel up, cave it all back in, pack it down. So that's what I was doing, y'all called to come up here to this. Well, I was out of the coffee. When did the coffee? Yeah, you said you were in a bind. While I was waiting on Red to finish the job so I could come up here to do the podcast,

I said, what time you got? He said, it was 10.30. I said, tell you what you do. Run back up there at the house. Get me a thermos full of coffee and bring it down here. And I'll have a little coffee here waiting on red to finish the job. I said, then I'll take off to the podcast. So I send a eunuch up to put the coffee bottle.

Well, he comes back and hands me at the coffee bottle. I looked at it. I said, hmm, that's not the one I've been using. But I said, I guess it's all right. What he didn't realize is the stale coffee had been in this thing for a couple of years. You would have thought, I said, fill the coffee bottle up, you know, with coffee. I meant first pour out the old coffee.

You would think anybody would know how to do it. I'd put some hot water in the bottle where to heat it up. Were you able to coffee and stay hot? He didn't either. He just got an old coffee bottle. I've been out there on the porch for about, you know, a couple of years. And, of course, you say, well, how did you find that out? The first little sip, I said, whoa.

Because if you look down in a coffee bottle that you don't use for two years with a flashlight, what you'll see is mold at the bottom about this tall, a green mold. And you drank it. I drank one sip of it. I thought, I grinned, and I said, that boy, I said, these millennials, I said, I tell you. And then you thought of that verse, as far as it depends on you. Do not be dependent on anybody. There you go.

See, you said, well, how did I know that? Because Jay heard about it and called me and said, Phil drank some coffee that had been in the bottle a couple years. Ha, ha, ha, ha. But you forgot, if it's possible, try to live at peace with all men. So you said, what did you say that when you saw that? I said, stop. He's younger.

He's a millennial. He just hasn't done that. He hasn't made coffee and put it in a coffee. He never had done that. Yeah, but Dan's got a bigger disconnect. It's not just his millennial. Dan, he's a, the way he thinks, he can't, I've never seen anybody in my line. He's great at what he does for us.

But he doesn't have any common sense. He is, in my line of work, what I do, down in the woods this morning, come up here, podcast yesterday, interviews, talking to people from all over the young. He's the number one man for me. He is, he is, indispensable. But Phil, let me, let me, let me. We're not for him. But we've got to have a coffee tutorial.

Can you imagine somebody like that working in a restaurant? No. Right. I mean, because most people, if they found a coffee bottle, I don't care if they drank coffee or not, they would open it and dump it out or, you know, and look at it. You wouldn't. He never had done that before. But there's common sense.

But, yeah, Dan's not like that. Dan's a linear thinker. He's a linear. It was not a game change. And what's wrong with his smelling capability? Because I'm sure when he passed that top. If it's possible, as far as it depends on you, try to live at peace with all men. So I took that.

I applied that thing. I just sat the coffee bottle in the back. I said, well, I'll give him a little update on how you get the press coffee. I agree. But like when you take milk, what's the first thing you did? Smell it. You smell it. I mean, that's milk 101.

I would never drink milk that I didn't smell first. You know, Missy, she said, what are you doing? I just bought that milk. I said, I'm smelling it. It doesn't matter that you just bought it. And then they'll say, but the date on the, I said, it doesn't matter what the day is. I said, I don't go by the date.

I go by the smell. All the old women, they put the smell test, everything like that. And you taught us to do it. I always saw you put the smell test to everything. I do the same thing. I smell every chicken that we eat. I hold my package up, put the smell,

test. Me too. Amazingly, I would say maybe in 50 years, half a dozen, you smell. It's not many. Whoa. Wrong. Out of it goes. But if I got it all cut up and cooked without doing that, the smell test is something

that needs to be done on a lot of different kind of foods. But you know what? I just thought about it. It may be hereditary for Dan because you remember that story that time when Gary and Pam lived here, which Dan would have been a boy, they bought a chicken, one of these cooked chickens, like from the grocery store, and the thing had maggots. I remember it. And they ate it until they got out of people.

They're not a redneck. I mean, it's like, when you think about. I mean, literally, it was a ruined chicken, and they ate it and got sick. With maggots crawling out of them. What we are labeled affectionately as redneck culture, it's people who live off the land. We realize we're, we go hunt animals. animals and we process it. And you realize how quickly things spoiled.

I mean, you think about, I heard a guy one time. I think he was joking, but he was like, I mean, who do you think invented milk for human consumption? He's like, that's two rednecks in a barn playing truth or dad. Let's take a break on that one. Or that thought the same thing for who's the first guy that tried the egg? You know, chicken comes by and it comes out of the chicken's butt. And they're like, hmm.

that thing may be good to eat. I mean, the first guy that's what I'm saying. The first guy that tried that, my hats off to. I'll tell you this, it came from people who live like we do. That's right. Who are around animals. There is an old saying in the redneck world, anything that you don't know what it is. But it's, for whatever reason, has died.

Sometimes you shoot it and it dies. You walk up there and you look at it. And if you don't know what it is, you say, I wonder what that is. The next question is always there. I wonder if you can eat that. That's how all things that we eat is that animal. If you look at a crawfish crawled by, most people would say, no, I don't think so. Most people still do, you know, that aren't from around here.

Well, my Nicaraguan daughter. A frog. You look at a frog. You're like, you're going to eat that? Well, when my Nicaraguan daughter saw those crowfish, because we. bald crawfish i said boy you're in you know carina you're in for a treat but she's like well they're not they're not ready i said no no they're ready you you you participate in the process you pay so i showed her how to do it but she she she was scared to touch it i was like they're dad

no no no no no good no no no no it's like what when i'm raised your leg or something you i'm not eating that well you're you're talking about frogs they actually move around in the yeah that's where they got that from it i don't the way their body is constructed yeah they're even once you clean them they're still an occasional jerky which is kind of freaky because i mean if you're like maybe you used to work for that hospital and you said every once while because you transport the dead bodies every once while they start moving or passing gas or whatever yeah because your body is still is shutting down it's you're gone but things can still happen and man had this guy emilio was his name

And I mean, we were in that elevator and all of a sudden it was just a big gas and then poop from this dead body. And when that elevator opened, he hit the door wide open and he never came back. He was out after that. So he lived in my neighborhood and I said, did you, what happened to you last night? We worked at night. And I said, what happened to you last night? He said, oh, brother, he had a thick his back. I said, oh, anybody that could poop like, he didn't say poop.

Is anybody but poop like that ain't dead enough for me? I ain't going back. And he never did? That would be weird. Yeah. And they would twitch and stuff like that. Yeah. So I guess you're right.

It's the same thing. Yeah. Well, I don't know. Dad's the only person in the world that would find a verse that says this is why you need to buy a generator. I thought that was pretty good. Only dad could find the scriptural background for that statement. That's pretty good. So, Jay's Sunday.

I preached on John 13 we had technical difficulty so you didn't get to watch it. I was watching until it, but we had just had a hurricane. We've had two hurricanes and somehow we think that's in Pat for those of you that have been trying to watch.

We apologize. Exact same path. Right. 12 miles. 12 miles apart. I mean, what are the odds? 12 minutes, but of course, then they showed one from like a few years ago

I don't remember it. It wasn't that long ago. It's happened before. Yeah, it was in Florida. And literally on that one, I mean, it almost hit exactly like an X. Like one came from this way and one came from this way. I thought maybe it does something to the atmosphere and maybe it just found like a trough or whatever.

I mean, I don't know. It just seems weird. What was interesting about these two is that when they came in, they came at the same spot, but that first one, because of atmospheric stuff going on differently, went straight up, straight up through Shreveport and then went across in Arkansas. Of course, we got the worst damage from that one because it was a more fierce storm. but then that second one, it peeled off and came right across here.

I mean, actually right across you. Right across. It came across south of us down there. Really interesting. But anyway, so we did this, I did,

the title of my sermon was the God of the Towel. And so for those of you watching, I have a copy of the book. And it's by a guy that Jayce talks about a lot on the podcast, Jim McGuigan. So I thought about the title, because I was doing John 13,

from him. And this is a great book on just, on God himself, but then he has one chapter in there that I loved getting to read again about I haven't read it in so long. I can't remember it. Did he make the point, you know, when we went through John 13, I made the point that I think when Jesus stressed that he would wrap the towel around him, he got the water, he, you know, I made a point where, I mean, I think it was John's point, that the way he fired back at Peter, because he's, he's, he's, you know, he's,

said unless I cleanse you, you can have no part of me. And I made a point that that's the way we're cleansed. There's nothing we can do. And I think he was setting that president as a precursor to the cross. Did he make that point? He did. And a couple of things that I was going to just, I thought I just tell you all some of what I talked about. Well, maybe that's where I got the point. Before you do that, I just want to interject here. this whole thing about fruit bearing, I'll just give you from Matthew. Matthew 3, I mentioned this the other day,

but this is a little more fuel to it. Here comes John the Baptist, and he looks up and he sees Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing. He said, you brood of vipers, who warns you to flee the coming wrath? Now, it goes right directly to this point. produce fruit in keeping with repentance.

So the understory of fruit-bearing human beings, it comes from a change of heart in keeping with repentance. So when you say, why is it so necessary? Well, that's Matthew 3. Matthew 7 Jesus said Watch out for false prophets They come to you in sheep's clothing

But inwardly they are ferocious wolves And he makes an incredible statement But you think about it logically You say you know he's on to something there On how you can tell who the false prophets are And who the god be are How do you tell? He said by their fruit

You will recognize them And he says do people pick grapes from thorn bushes or figs from thistles? He said, no. Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit. If you recognize a human being and what they're made of and who they are, you say, just watch what they are doing from day to day to day to day. Every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

It is critical. When you read all these texts by their fruit, you will recognize them. Now, that's twice he said, you will know an individual by the fruit he bears. For example, if filth is coming out of a man's mouth and he's claiming, It's just filth out of his mouth. But if he claims to be a father of Jesus Christ, you're like, no. Well, if that's the way you recognize someone,

what fruit they're bearing, if they're up to no good, it comes forth. If they're given to lying, riding, looting, shooting, whatever you just pick the one you won't. You're like... But it's not just negative. It's like, to go to Al's point, you don't see these people carrying around a towel

washing people's feet. It's just the... Even in the religious world, it's more of, you know, I'm using it as illustration, but it's like they like their feet being washed. Because think about it. If you see somebody and then you meet somebody and then you're with somebody over a period of time, whoever she is and whoever he is, always going to come forth. Well, usually in about five minutes.

Well, it may take a little time. You say, but the fruit they bear out, no matter what happens, that's how you're going to recognize them. They either have it or they don't. So when you look at a text that says, but the fruit of the spirit, after he gave the acts of the sinful nature are obvious, and he goes through the list.

All this divisions, dissensions, envied, orgies, goes through the whole list. Then he says, but the fruit of the spirit is love, you say good fruit, joy, good fruit. That's why when you see, angry people and you wonder why, that's the fruit they're buried. They're angry and you say they have fruit, the fruit of anger is coming out of them. Instead of peace, you see there's always this friction with them with each other, with other people. You're like, well, you decide them all up. Love, Joy,

peace, patience, people that, you know, throw it, flipping into the bone going down the road. And you say, well, love joy, peace, patience, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness, so now they even to the point in America where women are offended if you open the door or if you say something like yes ma'am no ma'am they're like hey don't be telling me they don't talk to me like it

don't call me man so they're taking away little acts of kindness we're from the south when I'm talking to older woman or whatever I'm like yes ma'am how's it doing thank you ma'am I'm doing it as a term of endearment. And they're saying, right? And respect.

And respect. Yeah. And it's so funny, let's take another break. So they'll even take good fruit out and turn it into bad fruit. Well, and you're right. And I've heard this argument before about that, about the ma'am and that sort of thing. And like, I guess it's maybe. You know, Trey Gowdy, South Carolina, Southern Boy, you know, he says, yes, ma'am.

I heard him say that. Yeah, he does all the time. And that, but people from up north tell me. that who are believers, but they tell me that like it's a sign of disrespect, which I can't, I can't. Well, they say because it spakes them old. Is that what it is? That's what I heard.

I don't know. I'm not an authority. I'm sure somebody. It doesn't change their years on the earth. Well, typically. I'm just telling you what I heard. I don't agree. I think it's the dumbest thing ever.

I'm just saying. You do typically do it to older people. I don't know. People are older than you. That is true. I wouldn't say that necessarily. to a 20-year-old girl. I honestly don't know what the problem is.

I don't either. Somebody in the audience will let me know, I'm sure, because I can't figure it out. I don't see how it is disrespectful. I know one thing in our culture here in the South, it is very much meant as a respect. They call it, what they call on it now? Mansplaining. Mansplaining. Man-splaining.

That's the latest. Well, the opening the door is, yeah. But you know, I would open the door, like if I'm about to walk in the convenience door, somebody's walking up, male or female. Agreed. I hold the door open. I open the door. I mean, so this has nothing to do with gender.

It's not just, I just do it for the ladies. I would do it for anybody walking up. But a guy in New York told him one time, he's like, it's like, it's just because you're taking the time. We don't like that. We want to be walking apart from each other with their head down, and we don't want anybody. Kind of what you were reading about,

don't be dependent on anyone. They don't want you opening the door. They took that verse, theoretically the thought of it, yeah and went crazy with it they're like, we don't want you

open the door for us. It is true, Jay's the people in huge cities from my observation I've never lived in one are the least community people you've ever seen in your life. So you walk to a door,

you walk to a door and you look around and there's a woman coming with a bag of groceries or a kid and you hold the door open or they're saying, no, no, you don't do that.

So, You just walk through it, and who cares who's behind you. A lot of doors slam rather heartily. So a door slams in the face, and you're going to try to make the argument to me that there's something wrong with you standing there instead of the door slamming in their face. You let them walk by, and then you release the door going about your business. And you're trying to tell me there's something wrong. It's the age-old thing about when they start calling right wrong and call what's wrong right.

that's pretty well sums it up. But you nailed it because it really is about kindness. I love somebody's doing ads. You all have seen them before. They're like PSAs where the big old huge burly guys on a bus and there's a little old lady and there's people standing on the bus and he sits there as like acts of kindness or whatever. And then he says, man, would you like my seat?

And she sits down in his seat and he grabs the thing. And that's it. That was just the commercial. But it was like, I love that. So if kindness is. That has nothing to do with gender. That's just somebody. It's a cultural thing.

If kindness is, in fact, fruit of the spirit, what they're backing and what they're pushing forward, what's the fruit, the fruit of what? Roodness? Huh? But they like it. That's what you don't understand. Yeah.

But when you flip kindness on his head or you say, ma'am or you open the door for somebody, and they're finding fault with that, fault finders, when you see that, where are they getting their ideas from? It's not the Bible. But Ms. and I argued every time we went to New York, because I'd go into a coffee shop,

why I start talking to people? Because I like people. I like talking. We're waiting in the line. Well, we're waiting. They're not talking to me. And she'll whisper and say, please quit talking to these people.

And I'm like, I'm trying to make conversations. What's up with you? Are you in a bad move? And she's like, this is New York. They don't want you to talk. They're scared of the way you look. anyway, overall, and they just don't really care for your Southern conversation. Because people say, well, you have an accent.

I was like, well, I was going to say the same thing with you. I'm going back to John the Baptist and Jesus. Bear, good, good. It's how people recognize who you are. So if you're, so if the worst claim you ever have when you get to heaven, and you said, well, I'll notice, you were really, you opened the door for, women, older people, you've respected all men. That's kind of what I think the goal is.

I think some of it, though, feels just personality. It's like some of my wife's family, you know, they're kind of syrupy, a little too serapy for me. You know, it's like, I feel like if a guy comes up, even though we're family and it's like, you know, telling me they love me in a nice way and just kind of rubbing my shoulder, I'm like, you know, this is too much. Touchy. Well, right.

So what I'm saying is. Because we're the least touchy feeling people on the planet. The three of us sitting at this. This argument came up. Well, he has a good heart. He's trying to do how he feels is showing the fruit of the spirit. But I'm like, back off a little bit. So then Missy was, she made this point to me.

She's like, well, that's the way people feel in New York when you're just saying, hey, how are you all doing? Well, maybe you have a. So I'm, it may not. be so much a heart issue. If you have a stem winder of a hairdo and you're female. A stem winder. A stem winder. Never heard that word in my life. Well, let me give you a little insight of what it looks like. Is that a word? I'm looking at the hairdo and first of all, it's either bright orange or whatever, purple, and it's cut on both sides. There's locks going here and there.

I usually say, now, honey, that is a hairdo right there. How long did it take you? How long did it take you to do that and they'll laugh and they'll say hour and a half i said so it took you an hour and a half to get that looking like that i said that is quite the hairdo i'm bragging on the woman i got this spelled wrong it says stem winder and entertaining and rousing speech that's what it that's what it literally means but a watch wound by turning the knob which is which is saying wow what a hairdo that's a stem one it's the the actual meaning is about a speech but it could apply to that but funny is that so you're what you're thinking the same thing I think I do the same thing that if you you did that that you want people to notice because you're uh I think so

I mean you wouldn't do the stem winder with the pink and the purple and all that so I always comment on it because I'm thinking you know what I guess they want us to say something because most people don't have pink hair these days in America when it comes to hair dues I'm afraid we're the best in the world at top this well and I'm wanting to know how they did it to be honest actually dad it started in europe we picked it up from the you're to see them over in europe and they were doing it a long time ago what was there no the crazy herdos the spiked herded me that gives back 20 i usually say something i'm like wow i mean i like what that's crazy but and there again it's like why do you have to say it everybody sees it why do you have to

She spent a lot of time doing it. I think she wants you to say so. That definitely stands out. If that's what you were going for. So let's take another break. And you did it. Whoa. So back to what we're talking about a minute ago, Dad.

So I had a next door neighbor years ago, and they moved down here from Illinois. And they were, you know, and yeah, somebody moves in, I instantly go over. And they were not. not nice initially just kind of standoffish and you know say hey anything we do to help you you know we probably took them something you know it's just kind of neighborly you know what we do here and

so we kind of started getting to know him through the son who later we led to Christ who's a member here at WFR he married a girl from here but it was really interesting once we got to know them better she she's explained to me where they were from Illinois you just didn't

just what Jason said you didn't talk to people you didn't ask them questions because when she got here, she hated it when she first went to work, because she said, they just come in and start grilling me with questions. And I was like, like what? And they were like, how are you doing? And, you know, what I mean, she goes to this. How is your day? Yeah, exactly. Just like typical remarks you would talk to somebody at work. So if I said to somebody, they walked by, hey, how's it going? And they're like, and they're mad. She hated it, like, at first. It was funny because through the How's it going means.

yeah that's like hey that's what I'm saying is it there's a difference between a heart that is that she took that as an interrogation because people were just being friendly talking to it is it a hard issue or is it a culture issue where I mean I think what you're saying in light of the towel washing that he was saying it you see very few people who humble themselves are doing something that is requires what I'm here a lot of humility and, I mean, it's dirty. I mean, I'd feel uncomfortable about washing somebody's feet. Well, and actually y'alls.

Yeah, you don't want to watch mine. Well, to wrap her up, so what was interesting is I lived next door to him for a couple of years, and then we built another house and moved away. But her son was led to Christ and still is a great, solid guy here, and then eventually she returned to her faith through the years of being here, and she was softened with that person that first got here. But to your point, it really was as much about not having the Holy Spirit and not being able to bear that fruit as much as it was a cultural goal.

That's raised. And then I spoke at her funeral. I did her funeral. I mean, it's like criticism. Nobody likes criticism. I mean, you can imagine from as many people who listen to what we talk about and we get stuff wrong. And people, you know, they'll send us emails or whatever.

We've all seen them. And to me, it's like, well, times the argument if it's just an argument i'm like yeah you're right we had that me and zach you know got into it about football i got to thinking about it he's probably right right but i'm so frustrated because i just like the game that it frustrates me that people are using that that if y'all remember but feel let me finish my point but if somebody sends me an attack deal if they immediately get personal if they're like i don't agree with you well that's fine because i just said that's probably wrong on that one but when you

get personal then and say, but you're a self-righteous, no good first, well, whatever you're going to say, I'm out because the fruit of this confrontation is all bad. It crossed a line, which is my point. You can see this in every situation in life, not just bad, but in conflict. Right. I mean, you know how that is? So that's all I want to say, Phil. Well, I would just say, You know, the Apostle Paul to Timothy, what did he say? Presumerary, I said, don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments because you know they produce quarrels. You just signed up my whole life, Phil. Well, I appreciate it.

But that's a far cry from, from, now, I remember when y'all were boys, young boys, one of the things. one of the things I told you all in lieu of you know obey your teachers I said you'll have some great teachers you'll have some teachers that are pretty good and you'll have some poor ones

I said obey them all I said you're there they're there they may not be the greatest teacher in the world I said show a respect and I also tell you all respect older people I said as a rule just respect them

now they can say what they want to but when I see younger, you know, junior high kids, yes, sir, Ms. Rolpson, yes, sir. And they're saying, sir, to me, I take that as that boy, he's got a good heart. I mean, that tells you a lot about a young buck that's in the eighth grade,

but he's very respectful toward the people around him. Now, they can say what they want to, but bearing fruit, but that's good fruit. I don't care what they say. Well, Phil, I think it comes down to, you got John 15, but you just think about what we just had. in John 13, Jesus basically said, we need a world full of feet washers.

And in John 8, he said, we got too many rock throwers. And when you think about what the problem is in our culture and in America, we got way too many rock throwers and not enough feet washers. Yeah. And that's across the board. But the issue we were speaking of is the produced fruit in keeping with repentance. You're like, hmm. So I'm just saying, take all the schoolchildren, the young ones in the grade school, the junior high and the high school, and don't forget the college crowd.

If you looked at it, just step back and looked at it on what they're not teaching. Guys, they're not teaching respect for older people, being kind to your neighbor. Yes, ma'am, no ma'am, holding the door open, keeping your mouth shut and nothing. I mean, if you just look at it, I wonder if it would help if we had some type used to. The code was there without anybody saying it. When we were younger, we respected teachers and older people and law enforcement and anybody else was old than you. We respected them.

We were taught that. Well, we were. Let's take a look. We've lost that. Well, you remember, we talked about with Lieutenant Colonel West up in the previous podcast. and he outlined it perfectly as we moved away from the biblical roots and traditional families and all that was so tied into our culture. There was a time where you would have expected that at any classroom or whatever.

But now we're moving away generationally where you've got more and more people that don't know the root. Remember, it's all about the vine in John 15. So if you don't even know about the vine, how could you ever produce good fruit? I mean, that's what you're seeing. That's my point. But you had to plug people back into it. You made my point.

It took you an old jays. It took you all about 20 minutes to get it, but I think you got it. I got it right out of the back. Instantaneously. I was just offering some faults. We were given some underpinnings. I was trying to make the whole book of John, I mean, look at it from an overview. Okay, yeah, we're to the bearing fruit, but I mean, what about these other things?

But it just struck me, why my John the Baptist, without any. explanation. Just a bunch of brood of vipers, you know, produce fruit and keeping with repentance. I mean, and they were people who were anti-Jesus. And I mean, look. Well, and they were perceived to Jason's murder. They were perceived as being the most religious people.

Yeah. But Phil, in our offendable world, I see why it happened. Look, the last time I spoke, not just what a few, I can't keep up with how long. It wasn't very long ago. Well, I had a guy there after it was over on my way out. He was like, no, y'all, y'all know what I asked. I got one speech, and it's 99% about Jesus.

Would you call it a stem winder? Oh, by the way, let me read this. Look, let me read this because I had it pulled up. When I read this while ago, look, a stem wander, it says when you're listening to one, a stem wander, it feels like time has stopped and you may check to see if your watch needs resetting. But used correctly the word describes arousing speech. So you're so caught up in the speech that you literally think. Well, we've said still.

I thought about Jesus when he said he's the same yesterday or day and forever. That's why everything he said literally was a stem wander. Oh, that's right. He's eternal and he's giving you some inside secrets to life. But look, so I speak, so this guy hollers at me. He's like, I don't think, you know, next time lay off the drinking. And I thought, that's weird. So I stopped when I heard that.

I mean, I'm literally walking through the kitchen to the car because when I'm over. And I was like, do what now? And he's like, well, you may offend somebody. It'll help you. Just thought I'd let you know that. So I was like, what did I say about drinking? But I tell, you know, in my speed, I tell your story about, you know, here's a man pre-Jesus.

He was drinking way too much, you know, and I go through all that. So then I share about the transformation. I spend 99% of it on why the transformation occurred, which is Jesus. I go through the Bible. What's the point? Jesus, he's coming, he's here, he's coming again. Well, when I get to the end, I talk about when Jesus is real, things change to get to your point about John the Baptist, produce fruit in keeping with repentance.

repentance is a decision to change. So now if you believe Jesus is real, he is the son of God, he's all knowing, all powerful, you're introduced by it. Well, things should change. Well, I use that as an example. Now, granted, where I spoke last time,

it was not a church event. I would say a few of the people had drank too much. Well, I made a comment about speaking at that fundraiser for the Trumps that I did. Now, there, most people had had way too much, drink so I made a little funny joke that was like they were had had too much to drink and too few of

clothes and I was talking to the women I was like they needed more I think that's what I said more clothes and less drink because I wasn't even sure they were understanding what I was saying but then I quoted the passage in Ephesians so I'm high on Jesus don't get drunk yeah so that was my deal but I got to thinking now he heard that whole lesson and he concluded there's too much on drinking. And I thought, he's not, he missed something. I don't even think it's wrong to drink, you know, but I was looking at a few other people and by their fruit, I realized there were some people in that audience that had had way too much to drink. If you get up and take two steps and fall over and everybody laughs, you've had too much. And the reason you're saying

it that is that by their fruit, you can recognize them. That's right. You get a bunch of people. That was my point. And they get drunk up. When I used to get drunk up, the last thing you're ever going to see is any kind of love, joy, peace, patience,

kindness, kindness, faithful, and self-control. I think... Coming out of that. Yeah. I think the guy said it because when I picked up the Bible, because we I did the duck call, I told you all about that in the previous podcast, but when I picked the Bible, there was three or four people who got up and left that didn't want to hear it.

And so he was probably thinking if you hadn't have been offensive on the drinking, they might not have left, but I didn't. All I did was say basically your story. But I should have just said, hey, I ain't got a problem of drinking. Just when you drink too much, your fruit is not helping you.

That's a dead aunt. You're going to wind up dead in prison in a 12-step rehab program. Well, it was like you described with that. I mean, just from our own experiences, you know, he had to leave a lifestyle to get to Jesus to then be changed to be different. I mean, you know, so because if you hadn't stepped away

from that lifestyle of the people and the fruit that you were bearing, you would have never been able to be introduced to Christ. But the reason was, that's my point. So as you said, took you 20 minutes, It took you off by a year and a half to get my point. It doesn't matter what behavior you insert in there. I could have inserted anything.

You could list a fruit of a mile long. We've talked about all kinds. Good or bad. If you don't have Jesus and he's not real to you, the fruit that's going to come out is not going to be real anyway. People forget that I didn't forget my past. And the last thing you'd have seen me do is hold the door open for somebody. I have a man for himself.

I wouldn't have held the door open, and I wouldn't have called you, sir, or a ma'am. No, was none of that with me, none. So I just remember the fruit that I bore that leads to death. I remember that fruit, and when I repented, I just started, in keeping with repentance, I started bearing good fruit. Right.

I mean, to me, it's common sense. And you're right. And for those that we didn't give you the exact passage, but those you that want to look into that, I encourage you this week to read Galatians 5, 16 through 26. Yeah, look up fruit in your concordid stuff. Or do a fruit state. Look up fruit.

James 3 has another one. If you get done, get back with me on whether we should be nice to women and open the door for people. There's a lot of parents. Kind to old men and women, right. There's a lot of paragraphs in the Bible that has, here's what you were. here's what you are right there there's tons of them so i mean here the list you need to nothing wrong with

the list but my point is that we're not policemen we don't go around and try to sanction every behavioral issue because in the end we're all flawed and we're all going to mess up but there is fruit good and good and bad i mean not doing the bad and doing the good is what i mean that comes out of the guy what the guy missed with you is you never claimed to be the job the job judge, you just work for the judge. Well, right. I mean, the judge of people's hearts is not us. Even if we see fruit and we think, hmm, boy, that little gal there or little boy there.

But even then, I'm not condemning. I have just an observer. It was a strange confrontation. You know what my assistant? She said, she said, you must have hit a nerve with them. Well, that's what I thought. Here it speaks of the fruit of the righteous that we may offer the fruit of our lips, reap the fruit of unfailing love,

showed me a book of a basket of ripe fruit, producing fruit in keeping with repentance, what Jesus said, by their fruit, you would recognize them in Matthew 7, good fruit, a bad tree, bears, bad, and you just start down the list, it's mentioned in Romans, Galasians, Philippians, Colossians, Hebrews, James, Jude, and Revelation,

producing fruit. So I'm just saying, my overall view of fruit is people need to bear a certain kind of fruit and the fruit had better be good fruit. 48 minutes later we got the point, which is awesome because we're out of tough. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube and be sure to click that little

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