Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 168 | Phil Might Need a Good Shrink, Whispers Make Jase Nervous, and the God of the Towel

Episode Date: October 25, 2020

Phil thinks he might need a shrink to help him figure out the eccentricities and peculiarities he shares with his siblings. Jase explains the hilarious reason Si hollers on the phone and why whispering always makes him nervous. Miss Kay left her cellphone in the last place you'd think to look. Phil reveals why he doesn't wear his $5,000 hearing aides, and Al offers his theory on the REAL reason. Jase promises to share his stock tips on Monday's episode. The guys discuss Al's sermon on the God of the towel, the full extent of Jesus' love, and why Phil wishes he could have Thomas Jefferson on "Unashamed." And we close with Phil's ugly feet. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So this is our last podcast, Lord Will, and I shouldn't say last podcast until we wait and see what has in our temporary location. Next time we should be back to the lair getting ready for duck season. It's kind of our gear up time this time of year because we're not too far away. No, we're like, what are we, six weeks from duck season? Seven?

Less than that. I don't even know what today is. 21st of November. The days of what of August, I mean, October. 15th that we're recording up. And what we'll do then. Five weeks. Is we'll hunt.

It'll be a week close about time this one. Then we'll do the podcast. That's why, for you long-time listeners, that's why we had like face pain, because you just go immediately from the blind. Well, that's a little thing I didn't think of, that the audience will just walk in. from the duck blind we stay from we were there at five o'clock that morning we'll be there at about

10 30 11 catch that 10 o'clock flight then we'll be back about 11 o'clock 1130 we'll make adjustments on the podcast but y'all will know we are fresh from the duck blind doing what we do a lot of you say well boy y'all got it made but there's more to duck and then they really realize you know that made me realize last podcast we talked about in that passage in Timothy stay away from foolish and stupid argument yeah we've argued because Phil and sigh come from a different generation and they think every hour they've done this since I was eight eight years old so over 40 years when they're they don't have watches I think side does but they'll say it's 845 get ready for that nine o'clock flight I'm like ducks don't have watches I've never

I've never owned a watch, but I've just noticed on up in the morning. I'll agree with that, but you'll say 10. He was. And I'm like, man on. No, first he'll ask, he'll say, what time is it? What time is it? And you'll say 9.45. You're ready, boys, 15 minutes, 10 o'clock.

It never fails. Ducks, don't, they have no concept of time to my knowledge other than dark and daylight. Which is what I'm trying to figure out. this is a worthy of debate or discussion or just worthy of one's box. But none of the Robertson family, my members, there are not but two of us left. Me and Si, I have a younger sister passed on to the other side last year. Then Tommy, my brother, just two years old than me. He was, from the oldest, the next, the next, it got down to me, then sigh, then Janice Ellen.

Well, the last two standing were Phil and Cy out of a seven family kids structure. So you look at that, and one of the things that most people might not find a little odd, none of those seven ever purchased a cell phone none of them not a one of them they never

they never used a cell phone and the cell phone crazed when it hit you know most of them they were all alive but none of them used them I'm not saying that you die early without a cell phone but most of them

most of them live pretty well death by cell phone I'm definitely going to. I don't know though, Dan. Nobody in your, if you make it to 80, if you make it to 79, you will be the longest one living sibling that ever got there. I mean, Jimmy Frank was 78, and everybody else passed away before him. So it wasn't super ripe old age because there are some 80 and 99 of your school.

So it is interesting. Number one, maybe if they had bought cell phones. I've asked myself, I wonder why none of them went down the cell phone road. I don't know whether it's the way we were raised. but there has to be something there. That is true. And Jan was younger, so she certainly would have,

should have, you know, if you were going to use one. She wouldn't touch one. No, she thought they were toxic. There's something to be said about, it is funny.

It reminds me of that, dumb and dumber line when he was like wanting to turn on the radio and he's like, radio. And then they, eh, and he started singing.

And it was like, it could have been dumb, but these, people. No, no, I'm not calling you dumb and dumb. I'm saying they all had college degrees, but sigh. Sile was the only one that didn't learn a college degree. My point was, Phil, your whole lives are so entertaining without, you don't need any aid. Yeah. And so like, that may be a point. That's my, my point was that you were dumb. That was just the movie. And I think part of it is at your age. I had the sheepskin when people say he's, he's, he's

as dumb as a post. No, I can say, not really. Well, you don't remember that segment. I go fine, fine, fine, I'm a sheepskin. The fact that you referred to a diploma as a sheepskin is mostly always like, what is a sheepskin, is the fact that it may be why your whole generation, meaning all your siblings, were just kind of one step away from the cell phone era, too. But you're taught.

My point was, you have conversation. I mean, my life was filled with conversations. I do think you're right about that. There's no, what do we need this for? We most our family was in, you know, we're tight. We talk. It's like, I'll tell you this. If I, I've noticed this about myself, which is kind of weird.

I'll share it. I've shared everything else. I guess I'll share this. If I need to. Here he go. If I need to talk to Willie, I don't call him. I walk. How far is that?

The third of a mile? It's not a short distance. but I'll just I have a cell phone but I just walk over and I have a conversation with an actual human I would rather do that

that's where I am in the cell phone area so maybe because that's my but you know I said interesting I never thought about to you brought this up so or until dad brought this up and when we were when we would get together as a family all the dad's siblings would come in all of our cousins

and for most of those years the last years for our grandparents, that was out on the river where we are now because that's where the grandparents are. So they all came there. Thanksgiving or Christmas or both. But here's something you notice to prove the point of what you said,

I think it's true. Most time you hear people talk about family, oh, we love to get together. The holidays, we sit and watch a movie or whatever. I mean, the TV would have been on in the corner of the room with all of us were together, but we never watched TV together.

No. Never. We were the entertainment. Like, sye telling stories or Judy sit around and talk. We sit around and talk. Or we played or played like the kids played football. But like

the adults who play dominoes, but you're not playing dominoes. I mean, you wanted to win because we're all highly competitive. But basically you're having a running conversation Oh, the whole time. The entire time. I've heard more tall tails over a domino game. That's right. And then somebody will

actually make a mistake. Then it all moves to that. That's right. Which is like you're telling some crazy. story about catching a thousand catfish and what'd you cut my stuff for why did you cut that five what are doing we were about to strap on that we need what we need is i think what we need here because we have a failure to communicate i think what we need is a shrink a shrink to look at a family structure just one in america and why they never embrace the cell phone i'm going to

when the first radio came along, I remember that. And I asked them, what is it? I was a little kid, you know, a little kid. They said, radio. Radio. They plug it in, and we would get. And you could get gun smoke on the radio, Chester and Matt Dillon.

So you were imagining what they looked like. And the horses galloping, you could hear them on the radio. That the sound effect. So we would gather around the radio. I remember Gunsmoke and Amos and Andy, a couple African Americans. They were, they just would tell jokes and first one thing and other. Amos and Andy and Matt Dillon.

But that's it. But we had that and we didn't have television for a long time. I was, you know, on up in junior high or whatever. I was probably not junior high or quiet, but when the first television, and we went to our uncles, you know, and to see what it looked like and what it was going to do. Do you remember the first phone? They said, we'll see movies. Did you ever have a phone, like an in-house phone?

the first landline came on telephone and you had a eight people were on the same line right so you could pick it up and you know miss mckinney right over live right next to get out the telephone yeah you kids get out of the telephone oh excuse me you know but but we didn't use it or people called i mean my daddy would answer and he'd say yeah yeah he was a man a few words yeah mom And so now and dad answers the phone, he says, yep, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got that from my dad. We brought this up before. We still have it.

Si still doesn't figure out that due to the microphone system, Cy starts talking like the further they are away, the louder he talks. Because if he's talking to somebody from New York, he's screaming. I'm like, I noticed it one day. They're way over there. out why are you hollering he's like well they're they're from alabama it doesn't matter sire if whether you're talking to somebody from alabama or down the street but he can't in his mind he's thinking well they're further away so i need to raise what's interesting someone in our audience

who is a computer guru somebody just you won't be able to reach me directly with it whatever information because you don't have a phone because i don't have a cell phone but i'm just saying if you want to get in touch with somebody and try to figure out how does a one particular family structure in these United States of America and none of the siblings ever used a cell phone. Well, they're going to say you're just old. It's just that generation. Send it to Al at Restoration Productions.comnet. That's where we get our mail. So you're saying it was just the age we were born in. I think that's what they're going to say. That's, I'm trying. That's what I would guess. It is.

That was a good point. I do find it interesting, we were talking about phones, that really, I mean, since we've moved here, that was in the 70s, which things were obviously much more advanced than we were talking about in the 50s. But at the same time, when we bought the place that you still live in, we had a landline, but it was still a party line because remember the Hudson's were on there? So even 20 years later here, because we were so far rural, because it wasn't a lot of, do you remember that?

Do you made the party line? We were slow to catch on to technology. That's possible. And it's still a problem, by the way, for our podcast, because there's still no fiber optic line out that far. And so we really struggle with doing what we're doing to try to, you know, without good internet to be able to do what we're doing the podcast. We're still running into technology.

It's still a struggle even after all these years. So you think, you know, oh, we're in America anywhere in the, but it's not. It's still, you can't get far enough out. We're still a problem. So speaking of the podcast is interesting because the last podcast we had, we were laughing about it once we ended it because it was like a tug of war. We were going to start with John 13. We just kind of made a, Jason and I were taking off.

Well, you preached on it, son. You preached on John 13. And I figured once you put the book up and Phil said, you're on John 15, bearing fruit, I thought he don't want to get it. But I wanted to defend that because, and this is, I'm going to give you a little inside baseball and how the podcast works. So basically, I kind of put us a few notes together on where we might go, because I never know.

We get here. Jason's been off on some tail, tangent. Dad's got something to burn a hole in his Bible. So, I mean, we may go anywhere on the podcast, but there is a light script. And so on it was John 15. So dad actually was sticking to the script. It was me and Jason went off script. It's more an idea.

As far as, you know, our Bible study. because we've had emails and questions. They're like, well, how do you learn all this? Well, we've been studying this, in my case, I guess, for over 40 years. In your case, 50? Yeah, and you're what? Well, me, I thought we had a few dark years there. Yeah, but most of my adult life has been studying the Bible.

I think I put us all together, our years, and together, it's like 100 years of the Bible. of Bible study and or teaching? Not that you, I'm continually learning every day. Oh yeah, you don't ever figure out. Before I came up here today, I had three different phone calls from people in my posse, I guess, my trusted friends. Your inner circle.

My inner circle, no family, just three of my friends, about Bible-related questions. Yeah. So, I mean, that was the warm-up. I wasn't prepared to come up here because I just had, my point is, where I'm having these discussions

on a daily basis about biblical issues, that's how you learn. Right, which is true. And you're right, we get asked that a lot. Let's take a break. So before I get to this,

I just thought about this a minute ago because we were talking about watches earlier, someone sent a question in because I know the folks that helped me answer my email about my watch. and I guess you noticed it. It's funny what people noticed the ones that watched the podcast. And so this, Lisa gave me this watch, I think last year for birthday or Christmas or something.

I would have been disappointed if my wife gave me a watch. And I love it. And the reason why is because I wear a watch, obviously, unlike y'all. But then this is an actual piece of an actual baseball that was played in a Dodger game. I'm a huge Dodger fan, which they're in the playoffs right now. But that really, I mean, that was to me a really cool gift. I mean, it's like, she knew I loved baseball. She knew I love the Dodgers.

I'm not impressed. Yeah, I know. You wouldn't be. I'm not that sentimental. No. Well, because I just don't, I'm like, I thought when the cell phones came out to bring that back up, that would kill the watches. I'm surprised people are still. I still like having a watch where I can just look down and not have to find the stupid phone because I felt like half my life is.

Most people, the phone is attached to their body in a long time. Well, and I'm like not that attached to me. I have to have it. I have to use it. But I don't like to use it. I mean, it's a necessary evil. The other day, we found Kay's cell phone inside the outside refrigerator. She lost it.

It took an hour. I said, get somebody call you and we'll walk around. I'm not even sure that qualifies as a cell phone. Number one, it's a little flip phone. And so she put it in the fridge? Anything you don't pick up with a wire on it with a cord. You know, like a rat. You're technically right, but I'm just saying.

I mean, do it's not. So did you ever determine how it got in the refrigerator? Because typically it's not where you put it up. I just noted that it was between the lettuce and some soft drinks. I got a guess on that. She's looking at me and she went to cackling like hollering like, ah, she loved the fact. that she's found it.

And I said, Ms. Kay, I'm not going to go into how it ended up between the lettuce and the Coke, but Coke. I bet you $100 she put it there. Yeah. Yeah.

That's how it happened. So I thought maybe she walked in, got something, put that thing right there, and she shut the door and forgot that she had placed it there. It's the only thing I figured. On several occasions,

I've opened, like, a shirt or something and thrown it in the garbage and then carried the package. She was on her way to the garbage dump to the trainer. And she said, wait a minute. Dan went down there with a sack. She said, I might have put it in the trash can. I said, why would you do that?

She said, well, you know, I just not thinking. I might have put it. I'm going to go check. Well, I said, well, let's give it one last shot. Get somebody to call you. Let's walk around. But y'all could hear it ringing inside the fridge, right? Faintly.

Once we got on, well, once we ascertained that it was not inside the house. I said, well, y'all should have filmed this. Then we go to the porch. Well, that's what I'm saying. I so wish I could have. We ended up on the porch and I heard a faint because she's got, you know, Amazing Grace. Just as I am. Amazing Grace.

You know, Amazing Grace. And we were listening for Amazing Grace. Who would have just as I am on their phone? I hear it. And I'm like, it's under that table. We look under the table. I said, no, it's a little further this way. I got out my ear plugs.

I so wish I could say this. Attachments at where I could hear, you know. I ain't walking. So. we go over there and we get down, we all migrated down and we come to the fridge and I opened it up.

It was an amazing grace, how sweet the sound. Amazing grace, there's come beaming out of the, out of what we call it. And see, people thought Duck Dynasty was made up. Oh, yeah.

That's an episode of that. Amazing grace was too on the nose. How sweet the sound. All right, so Dad, you prop another question I have to get an answer to now before we ever get back to John 13. So how much did your hearing aids where you can hear an ant walking? How much did they cost?

Do you remember? Like a thousand bucks? 5,000. Oh, 5,000? 5,000? Oh, wow. So my question is, why do you not, you never wear them unless you're like trying to hear an ant? I mean, what's the, because I come in and Fox News is so loud, like my ears are hurting.

You're a little, little, out of tune there, son. I always wear when I have shotguns on my right we got six people seven people in a duck blind I try to get on one end

so that it's a You don't try you do it I'm going to be there Because that way That just puts them on one side I got you But that side there takes a beating Oh yeah

If you don't have ear protection You know who's beside you So I ask someone Do they make ear protectors To where I can still hear. It doesn't, my duck call's not too loud,

but for loud shotgun blasts. Does they cut the sound off? I get it. I said, the decibels, can they cut down the decibels? The woman said, oh,

there's no problem, Mr. Robertson, we can do that for you. So I go up there, you know, this chick, she tells me,

you know, what the thing can do. It will shut off any kind of damage to your ear. It shuts it down. I get that.

So I always wear it there. Right. But why not all the rest of the time? Because then you could just hear all the time. Because now my hearing is probably lost a little bit through the years. But overall

I hear pretty well, but I just don't want to cause any more damage at 74. I'm going to disagree with that. But you do hear, you can hear, and I do think it's the shotguns. But you brought up an interesting point. I noticed that people that talk real soft when they're

discussing the problem, they charge a lot of money. You think about doctors, lawyers, ears, ears specialists. They start talking like this. That means, look, psychiatrists, counselors. Insurance salesmen.

Yeah, look, this is stockbrokers. Yeah, funeral home directors. Yeah, there's a lot of money. It's almost like being stroked. I just noticed that. I think when you're on the edge of getting slicked. Look, yeah. The first stage is stroke them.

Look, when they're hollering, what do you? them and smoke them. When they're hollering, what you got? Use car salesmen. Somebody's selling something on the street corner. Oh, yeah. Get your ride it. It's what, it costs a buck.

You know, peanuts. The cheaper it is, the louder they are. I've just noticed. But I will say this. In the duck world with shotguns to answer your question. Oh, man. That's right beside you. And sometimes, to the amateurs, we take people every once in a while, not much.

But the experts, when they start waving their gun barrel over towards you it's paid off in many many times i'm like whoo i glad i had this hearing but take it on well my my theory is about why is the question is that the reason dad doesn't wear the hernias all the time to hear all the stuff is he really doesn't want to hear what's going well if you apply my lot of truth of that he likes to just tune out that world and get in his right i can tune out like screaming children i can tune them out where i'm not hearing them that's right or a or once a little group of women who are cackling, cackling, they just keep, I can tune them out.

Yeah. Well, if you apply my principle, that works out because people are trying to take you money, they're whispering. That's right. Oh, yeah. Tune them out. And those are conversations that I didn't want to listen to anyway. Yeah.

That was funny. So that was the inside baseball, so to speak, of kind of how we do our podcast. Well, you kind of gave false information. You said light out or light, there's like an idea. In difference to you, I will say that many times if one of the soft-spoken types is talking to me, I've never heard of it. I don't know where I would come from. I just in a moment of weakness, said, yeah, and she starts with one of the ones smooth.

I say, hold the phone just a minute. I said, Dan, come in a minute. I said, talk this woman, see what she wants. And I'll just hand it off. I just hand it off to somebody. If I, in a moment of weakness, get a hold of a phone call that I'm like, what am I doing there? because she's talking about stuff I have no idea. I'm with this group or that group and, you know,

we've, great news is we've got, I said, hey, hey, hey, wait a minute. I said, Dan talked to her. So Dan will walk away from me and come back in 15 minutes and say, she just wanted to fleece you out of a little money.

I said, I just noticed that a ball game. People hollering, you know, peanuts, my dog, and then when I got some money, which was most of my life I didn't have any, so I was around people who were hollering. at all times because that's who I ran with.

You used car salesmen and I'm buying clunker trucks and they're hollering trying to get me to buy it all the time. When I got some money then the tone went down. You know, you meet with the stockpits. Rednecks are pretty loud. They don't go around saying heart surgery.

I mean it just is now what we'll do is a ruffling of calming down the front. You come in. Everybody's calm and everybody's talking. So now I, I've noticed when everybody's barely whispering, I'm getting nervous. I'm like, they. Better hold on your wallet, son.

So I think you can apply that to life, and it'll help you see those. Well, these stock market people that you talk to now, you've been a, how are they? They're pretty slick, Jason, if you're just bringing on down to where it is. They're barely whispering. Yeah. And so that's when I was like, okay, I'm getting all my stuff and I'm leaving. You start talking like, that. They do.

Yeah. And we're going to. Thanks, but no thanks. I'm good. And you know what's funny about that? Well, let's take a break. What's funny about that, Jay's, is the stock market itself is the yelling. I mean, you've seen the, you ever seen the one they show the video of when they're actually trading the stocks?

They're yelling each. It looks like the most insane chaotic thing. But they're the point men. They got people saying, say, saying, get me this now. You tell me, but there's a guy. There's a guy in a dark ring. There's a soft topic somewhere. Somewhere saying I got my guy down there.

What are all the pieces of paper on the floor of the joint? All the little pieces of paper. It's covered with it. They're notations for the prices, I guess. I guess. It's a big game. I've seen movies about it. Well, Jace, I admire you for joining that gang, but I mean, I'm...

It was a two-year road. We've got numerous people of requests. Well, when is Jace going to help us? And I could. I think one podcast, I should just, we should do it on finances, and I should just give you my take. That's a good idea. Because I'm a real person, individual. There's very few of us in the market.

Most of them are institutionalized or represent. Are you making money at this endeavor? A lot of money. Because, number one, I have no fees because my team is, there's three of us, me, myself, and I. You're like the Godhead. That usually doesn't bring the throng your way, man. Well, you do your research, and there's a lot of data. All right, so, all right, you got one next Thursday, we're doing, we've got a one-off podcast.

Can you be ready to do it? I'll do it. And I'll tell you what. Because I'm Skyping in this Thursday. I don't have any, I'm not tied to any. If you can talk to one who sired you. Yeah. Sire means get you here.

It's like a stem winder. come in to slip some little cash to you, I would say, irregardless what the audience does, I'll go with the deal. Here's the deal, though. If you don't charge a fee, what have they got to lose? I mean, you know, they're... Well, I'm not charging myself a fee, you see?

Because this is, this is me. They have ways, especially since November of last year, which would have been in 2019. Somebody, well, I know who did it, Charles Schwab, they said, from now on, if you give us your money, you can

invest in trade stocks for $0 per transaction. So that kind of revolutionized investing. Yeah, because they advertise that big time. Yeah. So now there's still companies that charge fee. And that that's just trading per trade. Most places you give them your money, they invest it in a safe way, but they at a nominal fee.

And so it's very hard to make money off the market anyway, percentage wise. And their goal usually is 5 to 7% in most of these places. So really that's, what, 10, because you've got to pay them. Well, if you weed them, you're already free rolling. I mean, you can buy two stocks with a pretty good amount of it, with what you're giving them. So it's like if you cut down on all your losses, now somebody's got to know what the heck they're doing.

And that's why I said if I'd have known now, what I knew then, I'd have never done it. Because it was too big, but I'm so stubborn. I was like, I'm going to have to take night classes. I'm going to have to learn how to read a balance sheet. I'm going to have to come familiar with the top 1,000 companies in the world. But we can do a podcast about it. Next podcast.

I'll give you what I think. And you know what? This will be redneck, what will we call it? Redneck stock market. We'll come up something. We'll come up with a catch-in-neck riches. Redneck riches. That's pretty good.

Yeah. All right. So that's the next podcast. So we need to advertise that. So we talked about last time. to talk about a sermon I preached this last Sunday because one of the fun things for me is that we're studying John and we're preaching John at WFR, which has been great for me because I've been kind of double study into this. And we talked about McGregan, and he has a book called

The God of the Tile, so that's why I entail my lesson. So I want to read this little opening section and get your take on it. So in the very beginning, I said, here's how I started the sermon. So we have a person read a scripture for us, a kid or a teenager. So she read the scripture. And so this is how open. I said on the eve, here's the setting, the eve of the Passover feast in an upper room, the image of the invisible God, the first born over all creation, the creator of all things in heaven and on earth, invisible and visible,

the one who is above all thrones, all powers, all rulers, all authorities, the one who is before all things and in him, in whom all things hold together, the alpha, the omega, the first, the last, the beginning, and the end. This is the setting. He's down on his hands and knees, washing the dirty feet of 12 of the most consistently confused young Jewish men the world has ever known. Then I just paused as I just did now and said, is that what we're at here in this text?

which is Colossians 1.1.15, I think. Most of that came from it. Yeah, which is. And Revelation. It's so, how it's so. I mean, just think about that. That just struck me when I, you know, thought about those.

It's quite the top. I think the passage is so not powerful. I mean, it is powerful. It's so beyond human comprehension. I think a lot of times, and there was times in my early life, where I just couldn't go down the possibility that someone like that existed. Right.

Because then even if every one of those small points that are true, Glosson 150, you just think he holds all things together. He made all things. He made all things. He's the beginning and the end, the alpha and the mega. I mean, it's just like,

well, wait a minute now, this unbelievable being that's supposed to be believable. Yep. with all that power and might is now a servant and trying to show them that I'm going to provide the cleansing, which to me is the point of John 13, which is why I get so frustrated when I hear sermons

or hear other people think that there's somehow another, they're going to cleanse themselves. You know, you hear it and stuff like, well, when I get my life straight, I'll come to Jesus. Right. Well, you missed it. That's not going to happen. that's just some lie you've told yourself right exactly in fact in verse one he said having loved

his own who were in the world talking about his disciples and anybody loved he now showed them the full extent of his love and some of the earlier manuscripts that now you see in translation said he loved them to the end to the last you think it's talking about to cross yeah i think he's talking about because this is the moment right i mean because he's he's on the east of the moment. I mean, that's fixing to change the whole world.

I mean, he's going to die, and he's going to be putting through the tomb and come back. Plus, he told them this over and over. Correct.

He told. He did. He told. I've often wondered about that phrase the full extent of his love. What exactly that means?

I don't know. That's really good. Yeah, I think it means that... To the utmost? That and to the idea that he's obviously God,

but he's... saying, I love you so much, I'm about to get down on my knees and wash your feet. And eventually die. And eventually die. That's why I keep going back to that. Because you've heard people, you know, I've had buddies who are like, man, I love that woman. Like he's having problems with his wife and he's like, I'd die for her. But they throw that around like, and I'm thinking, no, you wouldn't.

It just, it's something that's easier said than done. But that's funny. That would be the full extent. if you gave your life, even though you're going to get it back, how could you get any better than that? It's funny you said that. I was trying to find out my notes. So at some point in my sermon, I think it was the end of it, I said, you know, people will say that. Like, you know, I didn't know you said that. I said it at the end of the experiment. So I said, you know, they'll say I'm going to give my, I would give my life for my wife. But what I said was 99.9.9% of your life, you will not have an opportunity to physically give. give your life for another person. I mean, that happens a little bit, you know.

Time to time. Time to time. But I said 100% of the time, you have an opportunity to spiritually give your life daily. And I said it starts with a woman or man led next to you, you know, your spouse, your children, and then anybody you meet as you go out. I mean, that's the idea about you lay your life down for somebody. Jesus did it physically, but he also does it spiritually because it just consistent. And now he does it too.

Plus, one good point to remember, he's doing this, knowing they're all sinful men. That's right. One thing is to die for a good person, I think it said somewhere, Romans. Yeah. Pause or pause a few times. For a good man, you dare to die. Might possibly dare to die. But if you're an enemy, that's a Roman five.

If you're an enemy, comes a little tougher to die for them while we were enemies. He acknowledges that some people do die for other. other people, but he's like, but when you're washing their feet, that's one thing, but you say he's prepared and he knows he's going to do it. He's going to die for him. Right. Well, that kind of brings it into a little bit of, a little better context. Exactly. What's interesting about, you brought up McGuigan, is that I'm kind of in the same triangle because here we are doing a podcast where we use John as the main theme, the vehicle, I guess, to share Jesus, which is our point. We're looking at the attributes and characteristics of Jesus.

That's why it's such a powerful statement, Colossians 115, because somebody labeled that the supremacy of Christ, which was pretty good title. I actually agree with that. But, you know, McGregel and I go way back, I'm not sure how we got to know each other,

but we'll, you know, he's in his 80s. And I said, I need to write a book on basically what we're doing in the podcast, the nuts and bolts of going through John because I'm I'm constantly reading John and when I go do my speeches my invitation which is so different than a normal preacher because I get up there and say well I use I got this from Phil feels like I know I look like a preacher but actually I'm not but I'll add I'll say I'm a believer

because I'm disarming them about all the different denominations and religious groups and I'm like I believe Jesus is the son of God. And I introduced Jesus to whoever the audience is, whether they're lost, save, church event, worldly event, whatever. But at the end, my invitation is not, I don't say a prayer, I don't talk to them about being baptized, I don't even talk to them about changing their life. I say the same thing. I said, you go home because that's where we need Jesus more than any place that I know of.

You go to your house. find you a Bible, read the book of John, and see what Jesus is like. Don't ask you a preacher, don't ask you buddy. You look at him and say, yes or, yeah or nay. And so that's the thrust of my speeches. So I thought, well, I'll write a sermon, and I asked McGuigan, I said, would you like to be involved in this? And he, of course, he's in his witty way.

Of course, we're going by email, you know. His witty way, he's like, you know, I'm in my 80. Jays. But he said, I don't mind, you know, consulted. So it's funny as me

and another guy who I love, and you know, I won't say his name because we'll wait and see how it turns out. So we're collaborating, but it's hard to write

with someone. And so we started off with an introduction. Of course, all we're trying to do is get to John and we're using from the podcast.

So I sent him the introduction. And look, I didn't love it. So I knew this may be, he may be like, I don't know, Jase. So he sends back the email, and the first paragraph is the most flowery I've ever seen from him. He was like, our friendship.

I've often thought about our friendship. And it's just, I believe it's God directed. And then it hit me about third sentence. I thought, oh, he doesn't like this. Because he's talking about what I'm fixed to say will challenge our friendship. He gets to the next program and he said, honestly, this is not good. He said, you need to start over and write something that's nowhere near this. Which is why he loved McGregor, right?

And so look, I sent him back. And they wonder how hard it is to write a book. Yeah. And so I sent him back and I was like, you know, I appreciate it. Because I did. But he was more impressed with how I responded to the withering berkeley. garage of you're going the wrong way you were asking for it i i was like what and he had more detailed well by the way he's smart because he's written a lot of books let's take a break so i wanted to read you the

first thing he said in this chapter jess you'll love this it says this is the god who wore the towel this chapter in his book the god of the town there were 13 men in the upper room that night 12 lords and one servant i mean i thought that was the you know that's the way he writes it just gritty right off the bat you know just reading into and he's right in their minds and then he talks about it so it's it's in matthew 22 no luke 22 in luke 22 mcgiggin pointed out and i didn't think about it until i read the chapter that it gives you it tells you in luke 22 that the disciples on that night and i don't know if it's before or after i'm surely it had to be before jesus did what he did they were arguing amongst themselves as who is going to be the greatest in the kingdom.

In that moment, which, you know, McGuigan didn't say this, but I thought it. I thought, you know, Luke is the only one that mentions it. John doesn't mention it. Matthew doesn't mention it. And then Mark, who's basically Peter's scribe, you know, Peter's view of it from the book of Mark, none of them mentioned it because I thought they were probably too embarrassed to mention that. I mean, like, they were arguing amongst themselves. So my first point in my sermon was that there were three mindsets in the moment we're looking at here.

There were three mindsets. One, and I got this from McGuigan, it was that. They were thinking who's going to be the greatest among us and arguing about it amongst themselves. The second one was Judas, because we read about it in him, that he's making his decision to follow through with everything. And then later, remember in the evening, Satan enters him. That's in that contest. So then you got that going on. And then you got Jesus.

And some of the stuff that he was thinking about just blew my mind. It's all right there in the first three verses. He knew his time had come to do exactly what he said. He knew he was leaving, it says there. He knew about what was going on with Judas. You know, he knew that was happening. And yet he washed his feet anyway, which is incredible to me. I mean, he was about to betray him, and he did that.

And then it says he knew who he was. He knew he was, he knew God had given him all things, all power. So like he realized that. And I thought about, you know, Jesus was outside of time. And then he put himself inside time and become a person. And then he had space now that he would always have. You know, when he left here, he's always going to have space. He's always going to have a body.

It's glorified now. Plus, it would make it a change in eternity. It would make it a little easier to understand from his viewpoint. point, let's see, he knew that God had put all things under his power. Now, that's a lot of power. That's a lot of power. And that he had come from God and was returning to God. So if you pick to do something, and it's brutal, it's brutality like you've never seen, put

on one person, and he's washing the feet there, out of all the people that, that had been sentenced with that kind of cost. Think about it, the father had basically sent him into a situation to where, never having made a mistake, you are sentenced to die a horrible death. Right. I mean, with all that in mind,

and he's washing the feet of the ones he's fixing to die for, knowing he's going to return to God, man, I don't know, you know, a lot of people come up and they say, Jesus, the Bible stuff. But how does somebody invent that kind of person? Well, and it wasn't true. How do you invent that?

You can't. And what I thought about was it wasn't necessarily the footwash. That was their culture. That's what servants did. Somebody else washed your feet when you came into their house. It wasn't just the foot washing, although that certainly is because in our cultures, people don't wash anybody's feet.

You wash your own feet. But it was the idea that this God that made us serves us, that like he's willing to get a, on his knee that that's what he said and then he says at the end the reason you don't even know what's going on you don't even know what's going on you don't even know why i'm doing this but one day you're going to know because al he had to do it that way because you would never think victory in a human mind you would never think we already know the end of the story so we think it right but victory never comes from defeat that's right it never comes for surrender you know i'm competitive

as he come. I cannot stand people who quit. If I have the idea that you're quitting or that you're like, hey guys, now let's serve each other. I'm like, go play for somebody else. You know, we're attacked. Take everything head on, conquer.

I wish one more man was in on this discussion. I wish Thomas Jefferson was here, was sitting right there. Dad can't get over. Jefferson missed the resurrection. When I read his Bible, the last thing he said, and eyewitness account said that Jesus Christ died on the cross. And I'll turn the next page and it was blank. And I thought, I said, Thomas, come on.

He just couldn't buy. I wanted to say this before we end. That's funny. You know, McGregan, he... As smart as he was, Al. McGregan has a site where they, I think it's on YouTube, but he has a, what do you call it, a channel, a page, or is that what it's called?

It's a channel. Yeah, so I don't know the lingo. But he has, it's called reflection. And it's mainly for preachers and, you know, theologians, because he's a real smart guy. I mean, like if you'll pull one up, there's just a few views or whatever. But they're really...

McGregard with that accent, where's he from? He's from Ireland. Ireland. Ireland. And, but once you kind of figure out his personality, because some of what he's saying is, and he's being sarcastic or whatever, but I, you know, I've listened to a lot of those, but I wanted to bring this point up

because he brings up this where, here was Judas, and it says Satan entered him. And he has some really good ideas on the role of the evil one, just from his study. But everything that you read on that first verse, that Jesus is the image of the invisible God, you know, dot, dot, dot, et cetera, et cetera. The evil one is not.

That's right. He doesn't have the qualities that makes God who he is. He's not eternal. Nope. He's not. God alone is not all powerful. He's not all. And he makes the point, he did a whole series on that,

is why it brought that up, is that he believes that we give him way too much credit and authority and power for terrible decisions that we make. Now in this case, yeah, Satan himself entered Judas because he thought this is a game-changing moment, I'm going to use defeat to win. That's what he did. That's why it says he was a killer and accuser from the beginning.

If you were causing too much trouble for him, he'll just kill you. But God used that, his knowledge of his creation. Satan was a created being with the ability to choose just like we are. That's right. he used that against him to ultimately destroy his work. And now that's why there's a confidence in being in Jesus that when he says you resist the evil, what does he do?

Runs like a coward. That's right. So I just want to. Yeah, it's a good point. Good point. So I'll close it with this. He says in verse 15, I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you.

what he tells us out that's why I did this then he says the last thing he says there he says you will be blessed if you do them which anytime I see if in the Bible that's an action called to us and so I want to close with this Peter you know is the one didn't want him to wash him remember wash his feet

here's later Peter because he said you'll understand this later here's what Peter said in 1st Peter 410 each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others as faithful stewards I love this phrase as faithful stewards of God's grace in its various forms. So Peter got it, obviously, but I love the idea. He's come a long way from that room saying, hey, you know.

You know, Jesus comes up to, he's going to watch it. Are you going to wash my feet? And he says, yeah. And Jesus said, yes, obviously I got the towel here. He says, no. I mean, think about how brassy that is. All the things I would probably say no, too. But he, because he misunderstood.

He was like, no, no, you're too good. I don't misunderstand. I've been like, no, that's all right. I'm good. I have to admit, the, who was the preacher here that went on the Texan, you know, over here? Oh, Ray Melton. Ray Milton.

Ray Melton one time coming there, and he pointed me out, and I must admit, I kind of had the attitude of Peter. Yeah. He said, I'm going to wash your feet there, Rob. I said, hey, easy, now, easy. I forgot about that. No, I don't like, I wouldn't like another,

I'm marked. I wouldn't like another man touching my feet. Let me just say that. I didn't think I was worthy of that. Yeah, your dad's was more of the same reason, Peter. I didn't think I was worthy of a foot washing. But he says. But I did stop, and I will have to admit, I'm just set there,

but it was a humbling experience. And I've seen it done. I hate to burst your bubble. You know why he picked you? You had perhaps, the ones I've seen, you had the ugliest feet on the plant that I've seen. You throw that in there too. I've washed your mother's feet before, but other than that, I've never been.

And she has the tiniest feet in the world. You know, washing the feet of others out, it's not something you volunteer to do. No, which is what, that's why he used that example. So this is why the Unashamed podcast is so popular, because we talk about foot wash and then we close with that as the ugliest feet. You know, he didn't, he didn't argue. He didn't disagree. Well, he's got some bunion issues. All right, we'll see.

If you go barefooted for years when you're young, your feet come out. There's consequences. Oh, yeah. That's a good life. So I'll leave with this. If you're interested in watching the sermon, you go to WFRchurch.org and go to where we keep all our archive stuff so you can hear the whole sermon. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes.

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