Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 17 | Willie, Jase, and Al’s Redneck Childhood

Episode Date: August 18, 2019

Jase turns 50, Phil “peaceably” shares Ecclesiastes 10, and Willie shares stories from the boys' childhood.  See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1 To take a FREE 30-Day Trial of Phil's TV show and the rest of BlazeTV: https://www.BlazeTV.com/Phil   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So just so our audience will know, today is Jason's birthday. He's 50 years old today. And you didn't know that until Kay told you, right? That's right. Okay. I heard about through the grapevine. You got a son that's 50. You got one. I said, how old is Al? I'll, Al you? 54. 54. So here we all are. I'm 73. They've turned into old men like myself here before cat because they get his tail. To show you in our audience, some of you are sitting out there and you're saying, yeah, yeah, they're got Bibles in front of them. I mean, that stuff is outdated. I mean, the Bible doesn't have all the answers.

And these guys got 50, 60, 70 years old and they're still dependent on it. I don't know if he means that matter of not. I don't know. 50, six years. That's right. So here's what you got. You got the Apostle Peter. He said, all men are like grass, which is not saying much for mankind.

They're like grass. All they're glorious like the flowers of the field. They come up and they fall down and fade away. But then he says this, the word of the Lord lasts forever. Therefore, for all you listeners out there, you looked around and one day and you said, what in the world happened? In America, you have these two parties going at each other. throat one us they say right wingers right wingers they far right far right and then they say

left wingers left wingers far left here's a bible text because y'all say this is outdated let's see let's see how outdated the bible is where you're at i'm 1,000 years right at it before jesus and that's 2019 so about 977 BC. No, I was wondering what book you're in. I'm in Ecclesiastes chapter 10. As dead flies give perfume a bad smell. So a little folly outweighs wisdom and honor. So let's see if this is pertinent today for our listeners. The heart of the wise inclines to the right. Well, what do you know? but the heart of the fool to the left. I'm like, so you got wise people on the right and fools on the left. Even as he walks along the road, the people on the left, the fools. This is biblically, don't blame me.

Blame the Almighty who wrote it. Even as he walks along the road, the left winger, the fool acts fence and shows everyone how stupid he is. where is this that that'd be ecclesiasty chapter 10 1 through 3 10 1 through 3 10 1 3 put that you pat and smoke it

and start hauling me you're on the wrong side of this thing I said not according to the wisest man who ever live Solomon said that on behalf of God suck it up what in the world does that mean the heart of the wise

incline the heart of the wise inclines to the right do people say you're on the right or left of this thing jace be honest Which side do they show you're on, right or left? Be honest. Well, they say right.

Okay, keep reading. Even as he walks along the road, the full accents, and shows everyone how steep it is. That's what it's in. Phil, I tell you, I thought I had read this cover to cover. I missed Ecclesiastes, Tim. Well, thanks for the most bizarre, disturbing yet comical. Your day. There's three of my sons here.

ever. Coming down from the oldest on down, just remember when you hit 50, there is a certain amount of wisdom that you should have by that time. But always remember, a little more, Jace, will come your way when you hit the 70s. Don't forget to that. You know what stood out on this verse? This first verse that says, as dead flies give perfume a bad smell. It's kind of an eye to open. I don't know. But don't you use, like, Victoria secret perfume for gnats. Mosquitas. Mosquitas.

Not really the noceums. Is this where you got the idea of it or no? No. What you told you that? Someone told me and I said if I try. Some redneck said if you put that Victoria secret on your body, the blood sucking gnats will no longer suck your blood. How in a redneck?

Well, one year was really bad. These noceums. I looked in the dictionary, look up the word, it's one word, no, three words. Well, how do you even spell? No, it's got no dash C, S-E-E-E-D-U-M, no-C-M, no-seum. So I looked it up in the dictionary and, lo and behold, it's official. No-seum was there, blood-sucking gnats and the, you know. Well, I know what the net to him.

So I tried it, but I told the person who told me that I had a bottle of women's perfume in my hand, and I told him, I said, I'm going to try to. but you never tell anybody women's perfume on my body. Don't get that out. We pretty much unleash that. Yeah. So, Will, welcome to the Unashame

podcast. There you go. Man, I'm so confused. I thought it was a birthday celebration. Phil's the only guy know who can get angry on a birthday celebration. I wasn't angry.

I was just being... It's not his birthday. He's not angry because he's on. He's angry at one of it. his children's birthday and we're right into rotten smell, flies, left, right, political.

Best cold open ever. Just yelling and screaming and I showed up thinking it was going to be a celebratory birthday podcast. Well, welcome to Anna Shame. This is a... Just in a little enlightening conversation. Happy birthday.

So, uh... Glad you're on the right side of this thing. For our unashamed audience, of course, this is brother number three, the famous boss hog, Willie. And first time on our podcast, welcome, Willie. We're glad that you're here. I usually have an opinion on every biblical question. I had, Phil read that. I had nothing.

Thank you for easing me into the podcast like you were slipping into a warm bath. Actually, Kellett showed me that verse. And I said, well, what do you know? And he laughed. He grinned when he showed me that bird. He was trying to be comical. Because I mean, I don't really know what that means. I let to go back and look.

Solomon was going through a troubled time during Ecclesiastes, so be interested to. I mean, it does. It says the heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the food to the left. Why has no one in the political world ever? Never found that one? They don't know the Bible. I guarantee you this. after you read that today, somebody will make a political ad.

I'm predicting. There will be a political ad quoting. 2020. 2020. The scary part is, here's a guy on planet Earth that's 73 years old and listen to all the people that badmouthed the Bible. And that's why I mentioned outdated does not apply. It's a modern culture now. Where in the world would you ever think?

And look, that's as clear a picture as you ever going to see. I don't think he's talking about that. I'm just, I hate to burst the redneck bumble. It just happened to fit like a glove on its own. It did. But, okay. I'm just trying to think of Trump quoting that. An Akelaq, Akelax, Akelax, 10.

Ten. Akele. A little help here. How do you say that? One of those old books. I hate to get in politics. President Trump will love to hear what I just saw. He was never be able to pronounce ecclesiastes.

I guarantee that. Last night. Buttigieg. I tried to stay away from politics, but y'all lured me in. But last night, I happened to see that at that rally. I don't know if y'all saw this. So he has protesters. Did you see this last night?

He's speaking in Pennsylvania. Well, I saw the news clip of it. And there's a group of protesters. you know so one of them has a sign what what trump didn't know because this is like he's telling the story this morning on fogs and friends a guy has a sign that you know is like protesting trump what trump didn't know is that guy had taken that he was a trump supporter and he had taken away from the protester but when trump looked up he just saw the sign and he's like hey dude lose some weight that guy needs to lose some weight and it was a supporter so they interviewed him and said

well, how did you feel about that? You know, when he said that, he's like, oh, I do need to lose some weight. I love that thing. I love what he just says. Since he said it, I'm going on my dad. But he said it, but since that time, they've contacted me. And so it's all good. And sent him a plethora of cheeseburgers and Kentucky fried chicken.

I thought, I like it. I don't like it with, you know, Trump makes it personal and he didn't. It was actually a supporter head taking the sign out. I thought. serve you right. So, Jace, this is today

is your 50th birthday. Here's the deal. My wife, here's what she gets me. She gets me a card. First of all, read it,

and it's like, it was a bunch of ducks. Like cartoon ducks, like a bunch of them. On the front of the cover, it didn't say anything. So I opened it and it said, I mean,

it had a few, you know, things I'm not going to divulge for later activities. But it's, How big was the packing? So look, she says... At 50, we're still sexual innuendo, so that's good.

So it says, you look like a million ducks. And I thought, is that a compliment? Because she didn't, you know what I mean? A million ducks to me. Did the card say that or she wrote that? No, the card said no. She found that card that said that. That's why she bought it.

So I thought that was a lot of it. interesting. I didn't know if that was a compliment or not. To a hardcore duck on her, she would say he would like that. Yeah, she didn't. I did. So look, guess what my present is? You're good to kick out of this.

It's a copper back brace. A copper back brace. That I actually put on. From 1422. No, no. A brush plate. No. There's a copper back brace.

Because of my back. I can't play golf because my back turns. I mean, I feel great. It came with a complimentary iPad. That's what I thought. Because I told her, she said, well, you want for your birthday. I was like, I need something for my back because I'm telling you, it's killing me. I can't play golf.

So I thought that was, you know, that was kind of weird. But that doesn't go, that doesn't pair well with the sexual stuff either. So you're getting a copper back brace and also some other things for some other later this year. I was telling you what happened. That's what happened. So I said all that to say this. Here's my observations of 50 because I had this theory and I wanted to test it.

So this week I give myself a haircut. And y'all haven't said a word. I've been here. Well, we've been here 20 minutes. Y'all hadn't said a word. About your haircut? I saw you last night. It looks the exact same.

That's what was it. Look, get this. I go in there and I cut and I measured it because I wanted to prove the theory. I cut six inches of length pretty good off my hair. I mean, it took 15 seconds. I grabbed my hair on one side and I pulled down. I thought about this far. So you cut your own hair.

I got my own hair. And look, no one noticed, even my wife. So I came in and looked, I took my hat off and I did this because it's noticeably different. And I said, No, it's not. Notice anything different? And she said, no. I said, I cut half my hair off.

She went, oh, you did? I was going there, look in the bathroom. Trash. There's a pile of hair this big around. No one noticed. So you know what that told me? All these people in the real civilized yuppie world, they're spending all this time on this intentional look that they're shaving, they're cutting the hair.

You know what I realized when you get about 50? No one cares. No one cares. Save yourself time and money. So you will know, Jase. You just hit 50. Great. But remember this.

When I hit 55, Red and I, the local Redneck, were in the woods with chainsaws and such. And I looked at him and I said, red up until 55 but when I hit 55 I told the redneck when he said when you get up there we were talking about climbing this tree uh oh I said for the first time in my life on the earth I looked up at that big bull oak and I said red I've made a decision I'm no longer going to climb trees so I got five more years I said 55 I said yeah I'm I'm I'm

I'm not up to it. He climbed it. He was about 35, so he climbed the tree, and I haven't climbed a tree since. That's why I told the back brace story, because I was saying I really wanted that. That's my point. That's my point. Your back left you at 50. I quit climbing trees at 55.

We get a little years on us, Jay. Hey, but how did you hurt? You ain't been working. How did you urge your back? Playing gone. Oh, God. It's the, he's like, he ain't climbing trees, boys. All he's doing is looking out of the stock market and saying,

and you're, ooh, my back hurts. Maybe get off the chaos and out in front of the computer, Jason. Oh, I think. The copper. This is like a turn it to a roast today. That's pretty good. I'd be upset if it wasn't. Well, my wife, she's already got me all emotional.

Yeah, tell about this. So when we show up at the Unashamed Command Center, expecting to do our podcast today, we're all surprised. In fact, Willie's looking around like, what is this? What's happened? Because your wife had a surprise. surprise. Yeah, so I pull up and she had, I guess, her vehicle hit because I didn't even see it.

She must hit it out back, yeah. So I walk in, well, here's my, here's Missy sitting there, my son Cole, our, I guess, adopted daughter, Karina. And I'm like, I was just shocked because I was thinking, you know, you don't stumble up on your place. So it's a 45-minute drive. Yeah, you're coming here on purpose. You leave civilization and I'm like, what is going on? So she gets the computer out and she's like, I want you to watch this video, which is kind of weird. You know, there's cameras around.

Now it's a video. You know, women can be. But it was actually really good. She picked, I think it was five of them. About five, yeah. Five guys that I brought to the Lord 25 years ago. And one of them was my best friend from high school, Blake. Some of them almost 30.

Yeah. And she got Kevin McIntosh. Well, two of them don't live here. There. I haven't seen them. in a few months. And that McIntosh story really got to me because I'd never seen him be emotional

and I shared Jesus with him by accident. I mean, we were, he didn't want anything to do with. The only time I'd met him, he had offered me a drink. And when I said, no, he, like, made fun of me. And then he just happens to go to another house, come in, went into the other room. When we asked him to sit in on the study, he said no. And he overheard us sharing about Jesus.

And literally that night, I was walking out. And he said, where are you going? I said, I'm going to meet. We're going to church. I'm meeting with the brother or sister who Wednesday night. And he said, I'll be coming with you. That's exactly what he said. And I just thought, why?

And then he basically shared Jesus back to me. And he said, I want you to baptize me. I said, all right. And you know, that guy never waited. I mean, what was this, 25 years ago? At least. That guy never weavered, you know. And heard it secondhand in a room.

And I thought about Jimbo, you know, the first guy that was on there. You know, we shared Jesus with him. They all leave. And my phone rang at 3 o'clock in the morning. And he's like, he's, I mean, the guy's like, I'm, I mean, but he didn't respond favorably at the time. Left said, no, I'm out. Three o'clock in the morning, called back. So what's that ironic to me about your, those guys?

they're your friends, but you let them to Christ, but then they were all our friends. Like, you know, the whole time we were, like, playing softball, and you guys were, you know, in your 20s. And so they, you know, we lived in a, we had a house. We rented this big house in town. And at that time, I was working with college A students, which was most of your friends.

And Willie lived with us for at least a year, I will. That was when you and Corey were dating. Sublet it. Yeah, that's right. It wasn't, it was rent. I was throwing some cash. in that too. It probably about $705 a month.

Will was chipping in. But he, but then we also, three of those guys, I don't know if you know this, just three of those guys that were on the video, lived with us at some point during that two years. It's all a blur.

You know, Will left, Will laughed, and he and Corey got married, and they went to Harding. And so McIntosh moved in your old room. You know, he was McIntosh.

He just lost his mom. Oh, yeah. I didn't know all that until we, I got to know it. I mean, he was just rough situation, you know,

was drinking way too much. I mean, he just lost his mom. And he was kind of bit mad and better at the world. And then he just accidentally hears Jesus. And that's where he put all his bitterness and grief. And he just put it into Jesus, you know, and it completely transformed his life. You read that Ecclesiastes 10, I think, is a joke.

But I just thought of that Ecclesiastes, Joe. That was no joke. That was no joke. I was joking that you were joking, which just makes it funny. was old test of evidence of 2019. It's a joke. The heart, the heart. That's the mind of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the food to the left.

It's one of the funniest things you've ever devolved. Look, chapter 12. Jay, he's not talking about European driving. He's talking about American politics. Ecclesiastes 12 says, remember your creator in the days of your youth before the days of trouble come and the years approach when you say, I find no pleasure in them. My point is, I'm really at this stage of my life, I'm trying to get young people excited for Jesus because when I was young and I was excited

for Jesus, which was a rare thing. People are more open when they're young, in my opinion, to responding to Jesus. You know, you're at that stage of your life, and I'm, based on that on ecclesiastes 12. And what will happen is if you, people start coming to the Lord, it literally becomes contagious. But, you know, once you get about 50, you know, just think about it.

It's hard to convince you of anything. That's correct. Would you agree? That's correct. Okay. The older you get, but there is something to be said about if you take our school system currently,

and when they remove God back up out of the eyes, about a sophomore or junior in high school. So beginning from about the early 60s, there's been no God in the school system, Al, for about 60 years. Right. Well, I can tell. Yeah. I can tell there's been no God there.

I'm just looking at it logically and realistically. I'm like, man. So once the indoctrination sets in, when you're young, well, when you turn them out and they come out 25 or 30 years old, you say, you know, even Plato, the great Greek philosopher, he's the one, is to be careful to monitor who teaches the children. Yeah. You know, it's interesting, Dad, because I was just in California this week. So I'm sitting, there's a bunch of people sitting around a table.

And I'm sitting in between these, and everybody here are conservative people. And, of course, out in California, they have to gather together because they're the super minority. Literally. Right. So we're having a conversation about politics, which they couldn't have normally in California. It's just kind of, you know, a tough place. if you're conservative. But this woman on my left is a Buddhist and hippie, former hippie, and she's your age.

She was 73. And then the guy over here was about 70. And he was an anti-war protester back in Vietnam. So they're telling me their stories of being radicals in the 60s. And it was interesting to me because they said the same thing you say. They both said it was our generation that started the current, you know, what you see now. And so they were your age. It was same thing.

But they came out from different angles, but it was funny. It was that same thing you always say. They were like, we look at it now. And, of course, they both said, we became served when we had kids. And like, all of a sudden, our lives were like, it didn't make any sense to, you know, pay taxes and out the roof and all that. So this kind of moved to that place. But here they were in California.

But they were saying the exact same thing you say. Yep. Your generation. But you think about when you take God out of the schools, you took those principles out of there. You know, I told you all spoke at a community event in any. Indiana, and they told me not to, you know, bring up God because they were like, we want to, we don't want to offend anybody or whatever. And so, well, they said the Bible, which was a perfect thing, because I've talked about the

author. And because I was like, we're honoring our first responders and our military and all that, but, but all these people in our firemen and policemen, they were doing dangerous jobs. So I, I said, like, I'd like to introduce you to Jesus, and I got to the resurrection because I was saying, if I was in. this line of work, I would at least want to consider an alternative to living again. But at the end, and I talked about all these guys and ladies that go into these places, when they go into a burning house, they don't check their belief system.

They're actually displaying an unselfish, unprejudiced love. They're there to save, and they don't care what you believe or what you look like. And so I quoted 1 Corinthians 13, 4 through 8, without saying it was in the Bible. And I said, you're displaying an unselfish love, a love that is. And I quoted it, is patient, is kind, is not envious, it doesn't boast, it's not proud, it's not rude, it's not self-seeking. It doesn't keep a record of wrongs. It doesn't delight in evil. It always protects, always trust, always hopes, always perseveres, which is what all these people

do for our country and for people. And so what was amazing is several people after the event, they said, where did you read that poem? Where was that poem? And I said, what? I didn't know what they were talking about. And they said, about love. And I was like,

that's in the Bible. And they're like, that's in the Bible? And it struck me when you said that about our school system, you know, when they took God out and they wanted to separate that, you also took something like that out. I mean, who doesn't want to embrace that. Even in our culture, we want these things. People just say, well, we don't want it because it's in the Bible. But when you hear that, you're like, that's the most beautiful. That should be a foundational study in all schools. Just have love. It took two weeks for the news media

to figure out when the guy said that I believe perversion was a sin. And I quoted the text, 1st, Corinthians 6th. They didn't know you were quoting the verse. I will defend you on that because I was sitting there when you did it. He didn't know that was in the Bible. No one knew. This was in the Bible. I said, well, if they keep hollering long enough and bad bad enough, somebody will finally say, finally say, he just quoted the Bible verse. Yeah, they finally figured it down. Yeah. So, Willie, you're our guest on the Unashamed podcast. And I couldn't have a thanks, especially at being Jason's birthday. You know, we're at the top of the hill here where we do our podcast. In fact, this used to be your place. formerly my place. Formerly in my bedroom. Really?

No, it was an extra place. It was an extra place. But he's got a lot of extra places now. So he, I think he got, I think he conferred with his mother because she says, we're going to buy the place on the hill. And I'm like,

do what? Yeah. Well, technically. Willie and I made a deal or something. So what? Technically, I don't want to expose my good deeds, but technically I gave you this place.

Did you? Yeah. He changed. I gave them the place and here I am in the dark, not even knowing whether any money changed hands or not. Can you believe that, John? The money that was given for this place was given to charity. So technically, I didn't get any money. And you got the tax right.

Did you ever lose like a silver ring? I was a metal detective back here and I found a silver ring on this property. Chase, I'm not a silver ring kind of guy. He's that one on your pinky. I didn't know you own them. I'm not a silver ring. I was just being honest. I found a silver ring in the back yard.

Very not. Nice. Looks very old. So anyway, my point is that, so we're kind of at the top of the hill that comes into. We're not kind of. We're at, this is the top of the top of the hill. This is the tallest point in this parish. Exactly. It's right here.

This is right there's 40 foot. 50 maybe. So it overlooks the seven acres that basically we, and you guys more than me, because I was a little bit older, we roamed. the seven acres. So I wanted just for the audience sake to talk a little bit about what that was like from y'all's perspective because it's funny with Jay's and Willie

on the show, Duttoninasty, they're sort of an adversarial relationship that's put forward. And I wonder how much truth there is to that versus kind of how when y'all grew up. So here's why I thought we'd do it. So I want to hear, Willie, you tell what your perception of the way Jace was.

growing up and then vice versa. You tell me what you thought of Willie growing up. What was your thought process about him? So we'll start with you. Yeah, this was growing up, this was the hill. So this is, you know, it was a strategic location in many ways. Lots of things happened. We climbed just over there towards the river where the bluffs and there were,

there's pine roots hanging off. So we used to scale them all the way down. No one ever fell in the river, which is amazing. But we would scale the side of that bank. we played football. We had one field up here in the back. This hill was where usually when I would, my mode of attack, especially on Jace, Jase was a meanest person.

Oh, man. He's the kid you don't want stuck down at the end of a dead end road on a river with nowhere else to go because it just came out in anger and pain constantly. So what I, at a young age, becoming what was going to be the future CEO, the only way I knew I could hang was to attack, usually by projectile throwing something, and then just trust my feet and run as fast as I can. When you hit the hill, everybody slowed down. It was kind of in the modern way.

It's kind of an RPG approach, right? You just launch and run. You launch? Yeah, I never forget. He threw me out of Phil's chair. Phil was not at home. He threw me out of his recliner. And Jay sat there all big and said, now I'm the king of this house.

So I retreated. I got one 16-gauge shotgun shell. I leaned out from the door. I said, hey, King, and threw it as hard as I can, hit him right in the forehead with the full shotgun shell. And then off to the races. Now, that one he caught me. I met it to the top of the hill before he caught me.

And I got my retribution. John Gimbar cousin cut all my baseball cards up in a moment of rage. I called him halfway up the hill. It was dirt at the time. And I'd heard this story about Phil shoving gravel down a guy's mouth when he was in his heathen days. And I attempted that same thing. So John got a mouth full of gravel. Really, a lot of this stuff, I was not privy to a lot of this stuff.

I was going on. I was the youngest. And I was the mid. Now, Al, I don't ever remember having a fight with Al, but Al would like getting them started. That's right. He would get it started. Then I would throw something. and then I would run and the fight.

I was kind of the, what do you call those, the marionette. You know, I was the one kind of controlling. Don King. I was controlling the strings of what was happening on the lower level. It just doesn't sound like repentant children. No. We were just trying to survive. So that was, but I do remember when I thought, I got to a certain point, I thought,

I can take him. I was about 16. I thought I can take him. jockeyed in there, realizing, I ain't there yet. So through it all, Al, how is it that all three of you with childhoods,

that's a little microcosm of the way it was, I guess. Well, that was the negative side. So all three of you ended up followers of Jesus, Bible men. I mean, y'all go out to preach the gospel. We've converted

thousands of family group. So how did all you all end up this godly? Well, we were all right? background we were lovers of Jesus then we were just very violent with each other I think a lot of though is y'all's your child rearing skills you know you you had felt you were not a nice person pretty my when I when I was eight when Elvis died which was painful yeah because it was my birthday yeah ruined my birthday and so literally for the next 10 years it was depressing day for everybody

how old were you jace when I finally repented and turned to God six or seven six or seven and the The first couple of years were bumpy. Yeah. And so I think a lot of that, because, you know, we came from that bar and we scared and issues. Well, we were just, I mean, we were just kind of tough. I mean, we fought and we had to jokey. Food was an issue.

We wanted more food. I was kind of mad at the world. Most of my young life being hungry. Yeah. So we looked our food. I hid food. You know, there was a food issue. You feel, we didn't have enough food, really.

and it makes you angry. You know what I mean? Phil, you're nowhere to get food down here. I mean, I didn't catch it, which then there's a process. That's why you're,

I'm a good honor. I literally, I remember getting so mad. So you're catching it or killing it at order to get it here. Y'all were thinking more in line of supermarkets and, no,

I was thinking, you know, why is this a rule? Well, you all had that rule where the adults get the first choice and all and the kids get the second. Get plus that.

Sometimes there wasn't much left. And it made me angry. You know, because I'm like, you've never eaten a chicken neck. Yeah. Yeah. That's what you get when you're my age. Or a back.

That's why I don't eat, I don't eat back's neck and thighs now because when I was a kid, that's all I got. Yeah. I got burned out. I don't eat mayonnaise. You know why? First I made a chicken breast.

I was like, so this is what it tastes like. You were a little ahead of the curve because you got to remember in my day as a child, the mall would give one little. line, she would say, remember, and all the kids are standing there, seven of us. We're all standing there, you know, young. And she would say, children at the dinner table, children are to be seen and not heard. You were not allowed when you ate dinner, supper, breakfast, whatever. The young, the children were not allowed to speak. You ate in silence and the old people talked. Yeah, that's just dumb.

Well, no. I mean, the society, Jace, was far better than it is now. Well, by the time it... I don't know. Discipline, boy, discipline. By the time it came along to us, Grant and Paul were still there. And they were a lot looser then

because we were allowed to be a part of that. But we didn't say much. I mean, we didn't say much. I mean, we didn't say much. I was more just... What I'm saying is like when Kay's like, oh, here's your lunch and it's a man-a-s sandwich. I'm like,

I just didn't not eat. But I would eat it because I thought you were hungry. So now I will not eat mayonnaise because I just years of mayonnaise sandwiches. I'm like, no. But then I'll make me mad. So then I'd see Willie. I'm already upset because I just ate a mayonnaise sandwich. So then you would just hit me as hard as you could.

The biggest fight I ever saw between y'all was over food. It was over food. However you all, me and men. Well, yeah. I said I thought I could take him at this point. I was convinced. No, at this point, I'm. I'm probably 17 or 18.

Yeah, he was seven. Oh, we were, man. I was fixing to get married. So tell what happened. Y'all were cooking. So I come in. I was there. I was in a thousand times.

So we have one oven, which is fine. I mean, but I had a pizza in cooking the pizza. Will you put it in right now? Right. One hours. Hey, you let me tell them. So I've got a pizza. It takes about 20 minutes for frozen pizza.

going to make toast. So he's got like 12 pieces of toast. On the whole thing he used to be out. And he wants to brawl and I'm like, bro, wait till the pizza, then you can bro your pizza. Now, he starts putting it in. He's going to put it on top of my pizza. So we're both at the stuff. We're both. I didn't want to wait 20 minutes for the frozen pizza. I said, give me two minutes on broil, then we'll do your pizza. So both hands, I'm holding it close. He's, he's trying to open it. And then, uh, and then I think I think I just rared, but I think I made the... You initiated.

Yeah, I made the first punch and just punched you... Yeah, I punched you in the chest. Solo plexes. Right. But from the behind. Oh, I didn't even know it was coming. I mean, it just sucker punched me. So then I remember both of us, then you ran, grabbed...

Yeah, you ran then put your shoulder, and we went straight into the fridge. The fridge hit the wall, bounced back, and then he grabbed me. He got my head up under his arm, grab my pants, pick me up, and head dropped me, like DDT. I got it from Rastling watching Ratchez.

Jake the snake Roberts knee on top of the flour barrel. Yeah, there was a flower barrel. So my head hit the flour barrel and just exploded flour over the entire kitchen. The whole kitchen. Then I got him by the hair of the head and the mirror I rubbed your face. This is from the carpet. Yeah, carpet.

Evidently, Al, I was not present. You weren't already. No, no, it was a... But that was, then I got up and said, I'm out of here, and then I took off. Yeah, you took off. I drove up the road and sat there for 30 minutes. Willie ran away from home, I remember, about, what, Al? Well, I came back because the pizza was still there, so I needed that.

What's funny is Don Curley Foster watched the whole thing. And so he left, and I was like, that idiot, you know, and I'm out, because I was mad and felt like I had won the fight. And Curley said, well, that's a real fight. way for two Christians back. Yeah, I never, yeah. And it kind of convicted me, you know, I thought. Yeah, I don't have a thing. That was the last fight.

That was the last big fight. Do you all remember the verse that Granny used to always put on you out? If you don't love your brother, who you have seen, how can you love God who you have? Well, I later figured out that he wasn't told about your actual brother. No, it was right. It was a lot of context, but it works good for y'all. But I will say this growing up where we fought a lot. I mean, I wouldn't trade it.

It was, you know, and in fact, today. today, you know, I'll see kids are a lot softer and, and they're not, you know, they're not ready. Now, you do have to get into a different part. When Corey and I started dating, we're fixing to get married. We're playing basketball, Christmas Day with the family, guys, girls, and her brother, we're playing basketball. I'm backing him down. I'm posting him up. He's shoving me, shove me.

I just turned around and hit him as hard as I could in the chest with my fist and knocked him on the ground. And I said, hey, quit pushing me when I'm back. No harm, no, no, no. Yeah, I mean, get yourself out and learn how to play defense. That sounds like every game we ever played. So we go in the house and then they towed Corey's mother. And then she let me know in front of the entire family. We don't hit each other in this family.

So then I got in the truck. I left again. I'm out of here. I'm never coming back, you know. Merry Christmas, you know. You may need some counseling. Well, no, then I couldn't. Yeah, so I stopped hitting people.

I think he starts driving away. What's weird is Will and I fall. I mean, I bet we had a two-year stretch. We fought every day. But then if somebody was down here that was not family, we would always team up. Yeah, we would team up. The same guy I'm fighting with every day, you know, within cousins or somebody else.

Oh, yeah. We're partners, you know. And then the next day, I'm fighting him to the death. Well, they would come. Well, they would come. Well, the kids would come and they'd be like, oh, and we would say, let's have a pillow fight. and they'd be, oh, that'd be fine, you know.

Well, Jason and I would take the pillow out of the pillow case and we would shove in their denim blue jeans and hard-cored shirts and wad them up into a ball. So the first time we hit someone with a pillow fight, you would take them off their feet and literally give them a concussion. And so the pillow, like, we would always take it up another level just to inflict more pain. Well, you've, uh, y'all have given new meaning to, uh, childhood development

and godliness and loving each other and loving God. They're giving a whole new new. Well, most people don't know. So, Dad, you were fully engaged in the duck call, but you were starting a business. So you were either out in the shed or on the road selling duck calls.

This is what was happening. What's amazing is neither of y'all, your three of you sitting here, what's amazing is not one of you ever, not once. jumped up in my face and started hollered not once i mean so we were we were frightened of you as children i'm gonna be honest i'm a little frightened of you right now i love if i feel like i can't believe y'all were that how where did y'all get that when we started this off happy birthday

ecclesiasties 10 let me tell you something like phil starts yelling at the birthday at the birthday celebration And he's wondering why we're punching each other all the time. I feel like to knock me out one time, Bill and Duck calls. I mean, you know, just because you weren't, you know, some of your system of discipline. I mean, like, let's take the one where you had the rule about tearing up equipment. I always thought to myself, why? How is this my fault? You know, I mean, you bought something cheap because we didn't have much money from China.

And I broke it. And I get a whip. and just ginormous. The rules were never disrespect your mother. Good role. Three licks. Which rarely happened. And the second one was no fighting, which is why I never.

Bad rule. Which is why I never saw these scraps, y'all are talking about it. If I'd have been there, well, I'd have shut that down. But the third thing was tearing up perfectly good equipment for no good, for no good reason. Right. But I love this. No good reason. It wouldn't matter because you would see it broken.

would whip us for you got the reason. What I love now is as an adult, I realize nobody tears up equipment more than Phil. Yeah. So if you get Phil equipment, it's going to be torn. He tears it up. Phil has a full-time person to fix the stuff that he breaks over on his body.

I was thinking more in terms of a handmade Cyprus boat paddle and use that as an instrument to kill a possum and break my boat pile. I killed a snake. I killed a cotton mouth. The story that was told was. Did you get a whipping for breaking the boat? I mean, it's a cotton mouth in the boat. I killed him.

Sorry, I broke your paddle. I had a whipping for taking a chunk out of a chopping block that's made to chop. And I hit it with a cleaver, take a chunk out of it, and I got a win for that. I was like, I thought that was the whole thing. Would you hit it with a cleaver? I was teaching and Jay say, listen. I said, boat paddles are not what you kill snakes with. Pick up a lamb or piece something.

but don't pick up a because of boat paddle when you're commercial fishing. I know. That was a, that was a. I just respectfully disagree. Yeah. Well, you're young, Jake. You and just now turn 50. If you see a snake, your adrenaline is pumping.

You're not thinking, oh, there's a rule here. So we got one, 54, you, the oldest. 54. 504. 54. And Willie, you are how far? 47. 47.

47. So overall, at this point in y'all's life, you've all ended up with a pretty good jack in the bank. So you're raising your own children now. Yes. So what would your own children say about y'all, like y'all are referring back to me and Ms. Kay, your mama? So what would your children, if you interviewed them? Okay, now. Well, they've written me, I mean, I've gotten notes from them, and so I do see some encourage.

It is different. It's a different world, different how we raised. But we grew up differently. Finanically, we grew up differently. So it's the experience that we didn't have now. You've got rich kids now. We'll have to live that out. For the people's got a little, a little dusty out there in the internet land.

So how do you raise rich kids properly? Well, you just. Because it really is the same way. I mean, you point them to Jesus and you let that get stuck on them. But it is different. And so you're, you know. And we have, we have. more kids and different with boys and girls i mean it's totally different we grew up with a bunch

of boys and it was a different but we're a lot like you guys did to us i mean we're still i discipline my kids you guys do as well we still got them in the right path they're still the spiritual so all the things are there you know culture changes but really the heart of it is still the same i think i think the number one thing that trumps everything because i'm i'm thankful that we were poor as kids because it did make me you know turn into being a great hunter and I mean, we were out there. I was thinking, I want to catch how I'll please this cat because I want to eat it. I mean, you know, you start studying this stuff.

I'm trying to figure it out. But one thing I think that transition through time is that we saw what y'all did in your house with having people over and sharing Jesus and being hospitable. And I think our kids, even though, you know, they're always going to struggle with appreciating the smaller things in life because they take it for grand. I think what goes on in your house trumps everything. They see you. I mean,

and Missy and I were, you know, having a knock down, drag out every other day about whatever, you know, foul language or, you know, you see that. But, you know, we're doing the same thing.

You have people in your home. You're sharing Jesus. You're being hospitable. But even though there's been success, I will say this, Willie growing up was always, he had a project going, always.

some project. He was burning something. He was building something. He was... He was a big yard man. He's a yard man. So it's funny now watching him at 47. He has several businesses. And yet he's always got a project. You're still that way. You're out at Camp Choke. I'm out of saying. John Luke's run. He's the manager now. So he has my job. So I'm out there. He's the manager now. So he has my job. So I'm out there. And we had this conversation the other day. Actually, it started. I'm going to be. A couple of thousand. We just had our hunting and fishing camp, our first year. So we had that out there. And we had this conversation the other day. Actually, it started. because of Phil. So we're talking about another person that's in my family. I won't name who that is. But I said, well, that dude's not normal. And I said, well, at least Phil's normal. Now, that's the statement I make.

At least feels normal. I meant mentally, oh, man, you're going to talk about some backlash. And everybody goes, your dad's not normal. I'm like, what? You might not agree, but at least he's normal. So then it started this whole debate on what is normal. And I said, well, I'm normal. Then they're like, well, you ain't normal either.

And I'm like, wait a man, what is your? So you're not normal. I'm not, so we were going through what normal means. And because he said normal, like for what I do, I'm out there every day. I pick up sticks all the time. I'm burning. I got. And some of my friends thought that wasn't normal.

But I said, well, that's what I want to do. But it does bring me back. And it reminds me of being down here, working in the yard. Because I work with Granny. Because Phil was not a yard guy. you know, I don't mow my grass, the frost will get it and all that kind of trash everywhere. You know, and so it was embarrassing. And so I wanted to clean it up because Granny taught me that.

Right, that was Granny. And I still remember Kay pulled up in the yard and I had a big fire. I mean, as big as my truck. And I was four years old and Kay chewed me out and was like, what are you doing? And I said, the fire is under total control. So I was out there burning. A four-year-old. I know what I'm doing.

I'm still burning. I'm still burning. I actually have a place right. well, just right down the hill from here. Boy, we went down memory laying on this deal. Well, my friends said I bought it because it reminds me when I was a kid. And it does. In fact, this is, I don't remember the last time that all, without Jeff, that would be the fourth one.

But three of you sitting here talking about the old time, this is the first time. But I think these special occasions is over birthday, you know, Missy did that. She went through those guys. but I thought about all those guys that was on the video today in the birthday tribute. All of those guys, they broke a family legacy that was bad. I just noticed that with each one of those guys. That's what they all said. And, you know, we're talking about Abraham, and we've been going through this.

And I thought that story in Joshua popped in my head where he said, you know, as for me and my house, we'll serve the Lord. Right. It's an awesome statement. Yeah. But I think that's really what it's about. I mean, even though it was volumin. when we were young, that transition that happened in you and Kay's life, I mean, it changed our

legacy, you know? Yeah. And so you pass it on, you look at all the people, you know, coming to Jesus over. I think the same elements are there, like you said. We have people in our homes all the time. We're still preaching Jesus to we have stories. And I think Jase is, that was a cool thing watching those people because that's happened. I had a guy, stopped by at Camp Chilke other day.

I'm out there burning. and guy walks up, dressed real nicely. He said, do you remember me? He was out there when I was out there working at Camp Chioca. He said, you influenced my life. And to what I'm doing, I have two kids now. He said, you baptize me right there. And I totally forgotten.

How many years was he talking about there probably? 20 years ago, yeah. 20 years ago. And he said, you bad. I totally forgot. I didn't even remember his name, but I totally forgot. I baptized him. But I think it's cool when you forget even the good things, you know.

I mean, I think it's, you know, when you have a lot of sinful things, you're like, oh, yeah, I forgot I did that and that. But when the good things come back and people remind you and go, hey, man, you, you were there in my life and we've already even forgot. We're like, I forgot all about that. And so when you plant those seeds, water those seeds. You know, Larry Hooper every Father's Day sends me a Father's Day, Happy Father's Day. And it's because you were part of that too. when he was at camp, he had a terrible relationship with his family, nothing. And so Willie would, he'd stay after camp, work with Willie out at camp,

and then I had some spiritual influence, but he's never forgotten that. So every father's day, I'm reminded someone's like, now he's married, has three children, you know, and at the time he was an aimless kid without anything. So it is interesting. And dad, that was from you and mom. I mean, you guys taught us that in hospitality and who we are. So evidently, I've been mistaken over the last 70 years.

and now I've come to understand after talking to three of my grown children, I'm actually not normal after all. I'm like, well, great. Well, there you go. They convince me that you're considering an intervention.

Mission accomplished. Let's go eat my birthday mail. I do have something there. I do have. I brought Jace a present. Oh, I know real. Phil's already giving you his present.

Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, he knocked the wind out of me when he packed me on the back. Hey, happy birthday. Here's Jason's present. What is this?

What is it mean? It's a So you can't If you're listening It's a bundle It's a bundle I'm just going to get one He's going to get one

He's open to get now Ladies and gentlemen Small envelope It looks like green The first one is a $50 bill It's a $50 That's a $50

That you should open another one Pretty thick stack Ooh that's a lot of 50s Potentially So we have a $50 $50 in the stack There's $50.50 bills. Happy birthday.

It ain't ecclesiastes 10, but it's... Are you serious? 50 times. What is it? $2,500. That's a lot of buyings in poker. Happy birthday. Wow.

Wow. It's coming together now. I now understand I have rich kids. I'm shucking out that kind of dope. I should have done this. A bunch of rich kid. That's what happened. I couldn't give you my present.

People may think this happened all the time. I'm shocked. So now I will truly say, All is forgetting. We're good. The pizza. Everything. We're good.

See, we played poker last night, and I thought, this is going to be, I'm going to win this amount of money, but that didn't happen. That was more of an investment last night. So, happy birthday. If you call the bank and try to get 50-50s, it's a little more difficult. I will have to win. That's a lot of money. Al, I've been on the earth 73 years.

I never thought I would see a little birthday present to the tune of $2,500. Hey, I didn't either. From one brother to the next. I'm like, whoa. I actually got tear you out there. So Willie. That would bring tears out. He just watched a video and you get the man 50-50s.

He's like, holly. All these change is lives, but there's 25 others. I found out. I thought he slicked us for 100 ground on this half. come to find out. It went to charity. I said, there's a lesson for me.

Now I see him turning loose a $2,500 with his brother. Right. So Willie, we'll have, so Willie, we're going to have you back next January on my birthday. Because my bad, Al.

I want to see what you have for my 50-fifth. So it, like, came up and, I mean, Will, this is kind of shocking. I mean, you have given me a Honda

couple times on a birthday. But not a $2,500. 50-50s? I thought it was going to be like $1.50 and all won. I thought it was going to be funny. By the way, I know the audience would think this is kind of a little bit

rude, but I will say when Willie, he was a CEO because he was taking over the candy business at the junior high and I said, he's a man. Get him, Kay. I said, he's all I wanted on to run it. So he goes up there and he tells his mama, he says, listen, before it's over,

just tell Phil, my dad, they call me Phil, not dad. I don't know where that came from. He said, tell Phil, before this is over, I'll send him a check for a million dollars if I run this thing. Well, a few years or two later, Ms. Kaye come in and said, remember what Willie told you that he's going to give you a million dollar check? I said, yeah, I heard that bull. I said, he's going to give me an old million dollars. She hands me this check, and I looked down there, one million dollars.

Of course, I'm looking to make sure it's all finished, you know. I said, that boy there, I knew he will. to be the CEO. I said I said that. I was hoping that would come true. You sure did. What I love about that story is Phil says he tells K to get Willie. We're in the saying I'm his son.

Yeah. Kay, uh, get Willie. Get that one. That's the one. Yeah, get that. Somehow get a hold of him. He skipped the rest of it. We gotta end this.

Let's eat them. All right. So we got birthday meal coming up. Willie, you got to come back and we'll talk about to buy one next time because normally that's what we do on the podcast. But we did a lot. I don't know that I've had more fun than I've had today. We said that memory lane.

I learned a lot. And Jay's got paid. Oh, my goodness. So look, you guys, we want to hear some comments from you. I have questions, what you got going on. We're going to dedicate a future episodes to just finding out what you want us to talk about or some questions you have. We talk a lot about the Bible. So do that.

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