Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 18 | Phil's Crazy Cruise Ship Encounter, Jase's Yuppie Frog Hunt, and Jacob and Esau

Episode Date: August 25, 2019

Jase brings a group of yuppie women on a frog hunt, Phil tells about the time a woman sat in his lap for a "family picture," and Al brings it all around to Jacob and Esau See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1 To take a FREE 30 Day Trial of Phil's TV show and the rest of BlazeTV: https://www.BlazeTV.com/Phil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So we gave away two charity fraud hunts last year at my daughter's charity, which we're doing it again this year, last weekend of September. You can go to meamoo.org to check that out. Which, by the way, that's amazing. I've heard from two or three people that are sponsoring different parts of it. And everybody is so touched because it's not just about Mia and what she's overcome, but you guys. guys are helping a ton of kids. I mean, it's a great, great ministry and, you know. Well, thank you. It's very moving. I mean, we had 25 of the families that we've helped come on day two of the event last year. I mean, their whole family. We paid for them to come in. We got them a hotel. And then we

spent a day out there. We kind of had our little spiritual therapy sessions with everybody. It's weird you get that many families in a room and you're talking about the same types of struggles. It's very enlightening. And for those that don't know, we just assume everybody does, Mia had a cleft palate, I mean, a bad one. Yeah. And so she's gone through surgeries, and so that was featured a lot on the show. And so out of that, they started this Mia Muifun, which basically helps other families kind of walk along through the surgeries and different things. Yeah, and it's very expensive.

You know, you can imagine. I mean, I've said this many times. My daughter has never gone six weeks without going to see a doctor in her entire life. And how many major surgeries now? Ten. Depends on your definition of major, but around ten, and she'll have some more. And people think they have a misconception about what happens. You don't fix anything.

You just manage the condition since up. She didn't have a palate. She didn't have any palate. you know, where your tongue goes to the roof of your mouth, there was nothing there. It was just whole. So when they try to fuse that back together, you're always going to have problems because you're growing. It doesn't grow correctly. So you've got to go back in there.

Sometimes you've got to break bones, move the jaw forward. I mean, it affects eating and teeth. Mainly eating, breathing, and talking. Those are the three areas they concentrate on. So we help families. It was her idea. It wasn't our idea. I think she was eight, and she said, well, when am I going to start telling my story?

After an event one night, I had done, we were on a plane. And I was like, what do you mean? And so she wrote her speech. I said, well, go home and write your speech. I read the speech. Oh, we just miss it. It was like touching. I was like, it's time for you to tell your story.

So we started helping people. But the first night, the first day of it, we do an auction. We had a poker tournament last year. So you don't really win. I mean, you do, but, you know, you're there. We want your money to go to the charity, you know, but it was fun. But we gave away, I did, I gave away a frog hunt. These two people kept going back and forth.

And so finally we said, I'll do two of them. I think it was 18,000 apiece. They paid to go frog honey. So I took the second one Saturday night. Now look, it's this woman that I met at the Tebow Foundation. And the money went to the people who are the children that are suffering. Correct. That's right.

And look, 100% of all our money. We're probably the only charity on the planet. I don't want to say that we're the only one. We're possibly the only one. That we take 100% of the money and it goes to the families. Because you don't have any administration or anything. Well, the administration, we have one employee, but we pay her. That's like our contribution.

So anyway, so you never know who's going to show up. Well, I had met this woman who got it. They own a business in Chicago, Illinois, her and her husband, because they had bid on the same type of frog cut. I gave one at the Tebow event, which is kind of a cool thing, you know. And so I never thought hunting frogs would reach that level. Well, look, the one at the Tebow event went for $100,000. And three of them.

Times three. Yeah, three of them did it. So I'm like, for $100,000. dollars, you know, because they put me on the spot, you know, Tebow's like, I mean, can you do three? I mean, what am I going to say for 300,000 to help the Tebow kids? And I love partner. It's another great organization, yeah. So anyway, but you never know how this is going to go.

So the woman who got it, she couldn't come. So she sends six of her employees from Chicago, Illinois. So they come to our house. We eat dinner. That's part of what they get, you know. And now when they walked in, it was it was the one. woman's brother, and then it was five suburban yuppie women. I mean, we're talking the, you know, the joggers, the, they hadn't, the only time

they go outside, they're, you know, running down a road doing yoga. The kind of women that I've made constant jokes about for the last 25th, 30 years. Well, when they walked in, my wife, Missy, looked at me and said, you're taking these women? I said, oh yeah, babe. I said, but I'm a one woman man, nothing to worry about. You know, but I could tell she was looking like, you know, because I mean, they basically look like models. Yeah, don't bring that many foxes to the woods.

Yeah. I understand what they said. I was a moment of awkwardness. I was like, babe, look, she was actually fine with it. So we get out there. And, you know, for people like that to go out there, things that we take for granted, just riding in a boat, seeing alligators pop up by the boat. We had a big old carp, you know, jump across.

It almost jumped in the boat. I mean, they're like going. crazy. So we get like three. Where yuppie meets the swamp. We get three minutes into this thing and one of them hollered out as in like a cry of pain. I knew that it wasn't normal. And she's like, something bit me.

And I was like, look, things bite you out here. Because there's bugs, dragon flies. She's like, no. Well, I said, well, let me see. I looked at her hand. It was like twice the size of the other hand. I was like, oh, no, something did bite you? I said, did you see this?

because I could see the mark, but I said, you sure was a bite? Was it, you know, I was trying to get the description of it. Of course, she's starting to sweat, and she's like, I can't feel my hand. It's tingly, you know, and I was like, did you see what it was? Because it's at night. And she said, well, it looked red. And I said, red. So me and my buddy, we're trying to figure this out because I'm like, we're a long way from a hospital,

and her hand is like swelling instantly. And she said, I said, did it have wings? And she said, yeah. So I'm like, oh, where you get? Red Wasp. I'm, what else could it be? Oh, yeah. So I'm like, I'm telling you.

I got stung yesterday by them. And the guys with me sort of like, you know, what are you going to do? And I was just going on like it never happened. I said, well, Walt Sting. I said they're up in that motor. I crank one in them mud motors. They came out on the air breather. They just swore me.

I almost got one today. Well, they nailed me a couple of times as I was back. out of there. But you know, for us, it's a common thing for her. She thought she's going to be dead. We're thrilled when we noticed that it was a waswasp and not a cotton mouth. You're right. I was like, oh, you're fine.

She's like, but look at my hand. I'm like, that's normal. But then I said, well, wait a minute, wait a minute. Because look, I see what I think is a bug. No, like under her skin. And I'm like, hang on just a second. So I grab her hand and I'm looking right here in her wrist. And I was like, what is?

I'm doing this. She said, that's a tattoo. It was a tattoo of a bug on her wrist. And I thought, which is why she got stowed. The was staying in the boat. Maybe the wasp thought there was a bug on your arm. I was like, that's why we don't do that.

So they had to get laughed. You know, they got up, they get up on the front of the boat. And, of course, there's eight of us in the boat, me and my partner, and then these six. And you take them through it. You know, I catch the first one to see, but just to see the adrenaline rush that they get. Because they get up there.

They all do the same thing. They go to get the frog the first time, and then they're like, nope. Can't do it. So then you have to have to talk, look, so I catch the frog, let them touch it. I was like, it's slimy, they're strong. You can do this. And it's really, I don't know, it's kind of exciting to watch somebody. Well, they donated a huge amount of money.

the reality of roaming around in the woods and water of Louisiana hits him at that point. By the way, your daughter has been remarkably resilient through this whole process. Did you have any outside counseling sort of, or did you and Missy do the counseling? Look, your talent's not there, your teeth are all. Yeah, you just, well, she has a team of dogs. Whoever counsel with that child did well, that's what I'm saying. She has a team, and they're all, you know, not just thinking of physical. Like she has a really good speech therapist that, you know, not only helps her with her speech,

but just helps her with the emotional aspect. Because look, the doctors, they're real sensitive about like their first day of school. We all got into her own and said, look, this is going to be tough because you're making your grandappearance. I mean, she's five years old, but she looks different. And so they talk about that. But as this process goes on, they're worried less about what they look like. You know, more other people, that's their concern. They're like, oh, she looks great.

She's more concerned about eating chicken nuggets. You know, she'll have a surgery where- She's concerned with just so things will function. Well, right. She had a, one time she had to go on a six-month liquid diet. Well, that was the hardest thing ever because she couldn't eat chicken nuggets. I mean, we tried to grind them up, you know, because, I mean, that's her number one. you know, food source.

Al, would you agree that she is remarkably resilient? Well, I just think about it. I mean, I've had one surgery in my whole life, you know, and I was like, oh, I don't ever want to do that again. But, I mean, if I was a child having to face it again and again, and some of the things they've had to do. Yeah, they're brutal. I mean, they are.

A couple of the post deals she had, one of them, I remember they were having, you guys had to turn a screw literally in her jaw every day. And it was excruciating. We were moving her jaw every day for three months. A screwdriver in her jaw. By a screwdriver and you turning it and it's moving. What I was driving at is for her to come out of there with the personality and all that's going with it. She has really, like the rednecks would say, she has sucked it up.

Yes. So I just wanted to know was there a cadre of people that were counseling. There is. There is. They've been there from the beginning. It's a big team. Yeah, most of them. Well, her doctor, her first doctor retired.

And so one of his, you know, it's weird is these doctors who do this at this level, they have like a team that walks around with them at all times. Because they're, because the talent level of these doctors are off the charts. But they've invented stuff. These guys have Deer and Mia's process, right? My daughter had the second ever surgery. It's a complicated procedure. but, you know, because when he said I developed this new surgery that keeps the kids from having to wear this head gear for six months.

I mean, they screw it in their skull. Yeah, they literally screw two pieces of metal over your head into your head that you have to wear for six months. Yeah, the one other thing, too, is it seems to me that y'all are gathering up money to help these folks that are going through this because I would thank, Jase, you will know better than me. but the expense of that many surgeries at that level. Oh, good night. So this. Well, it's so much that when we first. I hate for you to tell the audience how much out of pocket that's been involved,

whether you had insurance or recovered. Well, I've spent six figures myself. That's with insurance, but, you know, out of my pocket, it's just, it's just a way it is, you know. Because it's, like I said, you don't factor in taking your kid to a doctor every six weeks. you start piling that money up. But some of these doctors, I think you told me, they will fly to foreign countries

where the people are too poor to even do anything. Our first doctor, for every surgery he did in the U.S. for money, he did one in a foreign country for free, which is awesome. That's a noble, that was a noble man. And to my, you know, to get back to the, you know, women and the frogs, we had this at the end we said we go through spider alley well they thought that was just the name of we were like do you want to go through spider alley they were like oh yeah you know because we've seen all these alligators and everything well it literally is you go through a tunnel

with brush on both sides and look these spiders are some of them are as big as your hand oh yeah i've seen them and they're all hanging right we're like everybody has to get out they're right That's right. I have never seen. I mean, they were literally terrified, and I thought one of the women was going to jump out of the boat. And she was like, I got to get out of this boat. I was like, if you get out of, jump out of this boat, you will never make it.

Watch in the water is worse than what's in the air. But what's funny is I told myself, because you know, you got eight people in the boat. And, you know, you're putting these women in awkward positions because they're laying down. and they're all filming all this, but I made up my mind, all right, I'm fixed to be with, you know,

five supermodel looking women. I am only going to do this in a way that they would never think, you know, that I'm going to look at them in an inappropriate way. But I had to get my mind ready because, I mean, you just think about it.

When's the last time you, you know, you went frog hunting with, you know, five women that looked like they were models? I don't even sit down. with a woman for a Bible study without multiple witnesses on the premise. Well, I thought about... Well, Phil, I want to talk to you about some issues I have.

I said, I'll get the group together. Ms. Kay and I will sit down and we'll have some friends over and we'll... But that's the only way I'll do it because of the times. Well, when I got back in the next morning, because I didn't get in 2 o'clock in the morning and I took six of the medium frogs. Of course, we caught... They were literally a frog every 20 feet. So we had many opportunities.

I took six of the medium ones and celebrated by eating those in one sitting. But Missy's like, how'd they go? And I was like, oh. By the way, did they eat in and the frogs? No, they didn't. I was asking too much. I'm not going to eat the frog. It took my wife 20 years to try one.

And only because I said it was chicken, did she try? They were so delicious. But Missy asked me that. And I said, babe, let me tell you what. I said, you know, we raised this much money for that family. I told her, I was like, I'm a one-woman guy. I said, I made up my mind when I went out there because I knew just frog hunting, you get in awkward positions anyway.

I said, but I looked from the neck up and I never, now they grabbed me many times just out of fear just because something would happen, you know? Like one time the girl was going up there and I went, nope, nope, because there was a snake beside the frog. Which happens a lot. Well, it happens, you know. But when she saw that, she just like, grabbed. me like she was going to die.

You know, I thought you're fine. Well, Jay, you went up in that yuppie pool to find you a woman. A lot of them stick with a redneck crab, but you elevated. But you exercise Job 31-1, which, by the way, people talk about character. And whenever I do a men's thing, I always do Job 31, because Job was defending his character in Job 31. In the first verse in Job 31-1, he says, I made a covenant not to look lustfully. and a girl with i made a covenant with my eyes not to look less fit a girl and that's what you did well and i

and i brought that up because when they walked in the door i thought i better make a covenant right now yep you know i mean these these women were smoking you know and uh i was like this because i just knew when you're you're in that situation it's easy to kind of let your guard down you know but i thought about big picture but and that's why i wanted to bring it up i mean you got to make it the plan beforehand and then you turn it I think into a spiritual well I mean and from a biblical perspective I think it's up to the women to talk to women about being modest but it's up to men to talk to men about making a covenant with your own us well it gets me excited about the outdoors I love because I've learned a lot

through taking people in this situation the time before the other people that had gotten the charity there was an 11 year old boy there and I could tell he had a troubled you know life up until this point and he just would not overcome his fear. I mean, he had never been in the wild, and he just wouldn't try to catch the frog. I mean, we went one right after another, and he started crying, and he was 11.

Not as young, but he was a big kid for 11. And I kept telling him, I'm like, you're going to do this tonight. You're going to overcome your fears, and you're going to do that. We'd get, look, the light, some of them would just sit there, and I have the light in the eyes, and I was like, we're going to do this tonight. It's just one grab, because that's the, my dinner for tomorrow. I want that frog. You can do it. And look, finally, after an hour,

he finally just, boom. And then he turned into a frog whisper after that. He was snatching them from every angle, laughing. And I think he'll look back on that at some point and say, you know what? Yeah, I can do this. So that really, it's exciting. Jason, I'm glad you were ramrodden that particular celebrity type of donating to the calls and we'll take a bunch of Yep. I mean, I... You kind of moved on. I'm not actually on that level anymore. We used to.

And still, like, you and mom, what I love about y'all is that, I mean, we've had some, we did an event in Tulsa. And for a guy that we love, that's an elder at the church up there that has ALS. And so we donated, well, it was the same deal. Started out one, cooking with Ms. Kay. And so then it was two at the event for the two. And then afterwards, somebody came by and said, I'll do the same. price. I think it was $10,000 each. But that was $30,000 for this

ALS Foundation that we were able to help out. Most of them we do, Al, and you all had them up and then you get in touch with us, but most of them is basically prayer for them and good food. That's right. We just say, well,

we let Jay's do all the hard spider alley. That's a tough good. But I like frog hunting and I like, I like showing people that, you know, especially like them because one of them said this is so organic and uh i said look we invented organic we we we protect the environment we put money into it i was like we live off the land you're never going to get a better meal than what we're doing right here we were organic where you

organic was a thing yeah it's just like me too i was to dad that we were me too before this latest crop of people saying well you know women are to be treated with respect we've been we've been saying that our whole lives. That's the way we treat our wives and women, you know. Well, we'll run up on a hunter in our lesson today, Al, Esau. So by the way, we've had quite a bit of buzz from you guys, and we appreciate it, because we had Willie make his debut on the podcast last week, and we were supposed to get to Jacob and Joseph, but, you know, as you know, if you saw the podcast last time, we never really got past, what did you call it at, a stroll down memory lane? Well, I, I,

heard things that I didn't even know happened under my watch. I hadn't laughed that hard in a long time, I had to say. And obviously, you guys either, because I've been hearing from you all week. But so today we want to go back and dive a little bit into the really starts in Genesis 26 and it goes through 50. This 25 chapters of Bible. Obviously, we're going to tell it quick. But, you know, we've been talking about Abraham and sort of the seed line quite a bit when we talked about. These guys are part of the seed line.

They're part of the seed line. He had a son, Isaac. Seed line meaning the seed line of Jesus. I mean, the plan, going back to Genesis 15, where he's like, through your family, all nations are going to be blessed. And that was the promise of the plan. And seeing it work out in history is pretty remarkable. People think the Bible is just some old book, but it's actually the historical aspects of it.

And to me, Jay's, when we were in school, you know, we went to prison school, but what unlocked it for me was that big picture of understanding. that God had a plan all the way through. They called it the scheme of redemption, which is a very clever phrase. It was a scheme. And it was a scheme because it was unknown to so many. That's right.

It was kept a mystery, and later on you find out that it was actually a mystery, I think it's 2ndthians 2 says that, because if the rulers of that age would have understood it and the evil forces and, you know, the evil one and all that, if they understood that, well, they wouldn't have crucified. Jesus because that ultimately was their demise. God's plan was, I'll save the world.

And Al, if you think about it, it was all, every bit of it from start to finish, whether it was being freed from Satan, being freed from sin, being freed from guilt, being freed from law, being freed from the grave. Right. You say, he says, I've got this, I'll implement it, and I'll be the one to do it for you. you because you cannot do this. It reminds me. How are you going to beat physical death on your own?

With all the doctor visits, we all talk about it all the time, you say, but in the end, what about that old six-foot hole we're going into? You get to looking at it. You're like, woo, and you'd have peace of mind while you're here because you know your sins are removed. You know you were set free from the evil one himself. So you talk about a plan coming together. But it reminds me, just like in the creation itself, where you see, when you start looking in the details, that it leads you to.

some kind of intelligent designer, you know, that we call God. The same thing in the Bible, when you look at the historical details and using these families and you go back the time and the, you know, the sites that they've gone to, you see that same pattern. You're like, well, this couldn't, you see that it couldn't be made up. Yeah. It's all found in the details. That's why I like what we're doing going through the entire scheme of it.

Yeah, and showing it. So Abraham and Sarah, they had Isaac, which was their only son. and we've talked about that. They had another son, Abraham did Ishmael, and we talked about the differences there, and sort of what happens when you try to kind of do an end run around the plan of God. That didn't turn out so well.

And the two leading religions to thousands of years. Abraham's the father of the Arabs and the father of the Jews. And the Gentiles were invited in so that all people could be blessed. You're like, man. Gentiles, meaning not a Jew. Not a Jew. Anybody.

Well, we would be Gentiles. So Isaac gets married to a woman named Rebecca, and she has twin boys. And so what happens is Jacob and Esau are their names. And what's interesting about him is it's the same kind of deal that we see with Isaac and Ishmael. There was these two sons. Esau actually came out first, so he was the first born. Although the seed line, the promise, was going to go through Jacob, which there had been a little prophecy there to Rebecca that God knew. It's one of these hard situations because you're reading it in real time, but God sees it outside of time.

So he gives her a heads up that Jacob is the one that's going to be blessed. And so there's this conflict that goes on between these two sons. To add to that, Esau comes out, and in the Esau means red. And so he was red and hairy. So I imagine him, you know, you think of some redneck you see it around here with big old guy, red hair, big thick beer. Or some of the guys Leonard Skinner. There you go.

There you go. That's right. Nobody in Leonard Skinner had red hair, though. But I mean, but there's a lot of up there in their younger days. I'm saying Harry. I'm looking at the Harry part. Okay. I was like, wait a minute.

Well, I was thinking ZZ Top, of course. Yeah, ZZ Top's a better illustration. They have a red tent. But we noticed when they were with us, Of course, you know, they're like, oh, it's your age now. They're my age and their beards were orange. They were orange, but you could tell it was, they weren't natural. No, no.

Well, they spent a little time in the makeup room. I didn't, I didn't kiddo give us and all of them bad when they ate. By the way, they came. They, they, they visited us and they, they, they ordered the food they wanted. They said, we won't squirrel because we, you know, you know, rock and rollers. They just squirrel. It's not on the menu at most places that they traveled. I said, we will have squirrel.

So we had squirrel and dumplings. But I did notice they weren't just licking the bowl. They tried it. I think that was their first squirrel. It probably was. It was first squirrel. You know, we just got invited. I don't know if anybody went, but we got invited to their 50th anniversary of being a man.

Yeah, I saw that. I would have loved to have gone. I had an event. I had it too. I was busy, but that would have been fun to go to. They thought those guys. Yeah, they were great. They're great guys.

I'm always pleased when I meet somebody that I listened to when I was 14. And they turned out to be such great guys. I did ask them when they pull up. They pull up in two very expensive. It looked like trailway buses but spiffed up. Oh, yeah. Well, they had one but two of them. And they pull up and one gets out of one bus and one gets out of the other.

I said, what's with the two buses? Why don't we just ride in one? And he said, we've been playing rock and roll since 69, and it's like a marriage. It went south. It's Jacob and Esau. Exactly. It's just like William.

We got the Jacob and Esau thing out here in the yard. They were just saying, we get along with their own bus. We get along better when you're like, you've got your bus and I got mine, buddy. And I think they could afford it. They were great guys. They said it and we all had. They were laughing. But I think it's good.

We're talking about a story that happened, you know, 10,000 years ago or however long. but it's the same principle. It is. Willie and I were way too close in age. I can't imagine having twins. Whether there's twins. So Esau is a hunter. Jacob loves him because he goes out and he brings him wild game.

And we can all relate to that. Sure. Jacob, he was described as a, he liked to hang around the tents was the way he was described. So I imagine him as a little more artsy. He was red and his whole body was like a hairy garment. That was Esau. Yeah, so the name of him, Esau, which means Harry, that's why I brought up ZZ Top and Leonard Skinner.

I got it. There were Harry guys back in the 60s and you're hairy guys. But the funny part was you not wanting to make fun of Zizi Top's appearance looking like you do. Well, you know. All I can say out, it is biblical. In this case, Esau did not fare so well with God. He didn't. He was godless as we read about later.

Esau's problem was as he was driven by the moment. There were two things that basically happened in the old Jewish tradition is you got two things from your father. The first thing you got was your birthright, which was basically just the oldest getting a double inheritance. And the reason you did that is he was responsible for taking care of their family. The oldest born was the guy. So if you had a sister that lost her husband, you got more, but the idea was to shake. It was a glimpse of the patriarchal system. Exactly.

But it also shows just personalities because, like you said, you know, Jacob hung around the tents, which I guess would be like the mall of the, you know, and here's Esau out in the woods. That was kind of a crude suburban type. That's right. Right. But people ask me all that all the time, they're like, would you or other brothers hunt? They assume we all duck hunt like I do. Jacob was not roaming around out in the wild in the woods.

like Esau. But it was like, look at our, look at all the four brothers. Yeah. Well, I've duck hunt every day. I have since I was eight. But you go some. Willie goes once a year, maybe. Only if we're filming.

Yeah, but now Willie's into deer hunting. But still, I mean, like, he's not a man. Willie's not a man of the open country. That's right. But like you and Jalp are kind of mall rovers. Well, I've called myself Jacob and a family of Esau's. That was my little tagline. because I shaved and bathed.

But it gets me back to, you know, when you have kids, I got three, I mean, three kids, not counting the ones we've acquired and adopted or whatever. But they're all so totally different. There's no manual. I mean, you just can't believe it. I mean, my two oldest boys are the exact opposite. Yeah.

I mean, one of them is very quiet, very studious, very reserved. My older one is a live. So what Jason said is historically, it is what it is. It is what it is. It just is what it is, but God works in those situations no matter what it is. So God gave the glimpse, because when they were in the womb, by the way, before they were born, you know, she's feeling them Rachel, I mean, she's feeling them wrestling around in there.

And Rebecca, I mean, feeling rassling around there. And he says that's like two warring nations because Esau is going to follow the same path as Ishmael. And the Edomites was his lineage. Well, they were some bad hombres. You know, same deal. So they were a thorn in the flesh for Israel. So it's the same kind of thing growing out as it's not just them and the way they were, but when their patronage went through and their their legacies,

Esau's was not good. It was the people that had a lot of problems, you know. And it really went back to his base there. So I said he gets a birthright. The second thing he gets is a blessing. And the blessing would come from the patriarch at the end of his life. That was the idea that, you know, just like we would do now. Like if you were at the end of your life and we came in,

was like, you know, it's been a good run, Dad, and you were to say, you know, you boys, you know, I want you to carry my legacy. You would bless us in the sense that we're now carrying your torch. So that was the two things. Well, unfortunately for ESOP. We've never had that meeting yet. We haven't had it. We may get down to it.

It's coming at some point. I mean, Phil. I'm 73 like, I'm running out of time. At least on the first. And I both looked at our watches. And we've never had one. I've never owned a watch. And somebody says, this is the difference in Jacob.

in Esau. Somebody says, how come you never owned a watch? And I said, I don't want to see it happening time passage. I'd rather not see it. So I'm oblivious to time where it won't threaten me. Because, you know, you start dating everything, Al. Well, you run out of time and hurt. The problem is you have to have somebody around you that knows the time. Fortunately for us, biblically speaking, and we're looking at a couple guys way back, biblically speaking, boys, this is just this age. Right. That's what Jesus call it.

This age. This age will leave and there's another one just on the other side. Well, it's like the verse you read last week. When you talked about we're all like grass, you know, which people, because somebody said, what did he mean? Because they didn't, you didn't really explain the concept, which I just say. The grass withers. All right.

We're just, we're all humans are like a blade and grass. I mean, you come up and it's, there it went. It's gone. It was over. One of my favorite rants you do, though, feels when you talk about, you don't have a watch and you like talk about the different times it is. Yeah. You know, daylight, dark, sunrise, sunset.

It alleviates stress when you say, I'll see you about sundown. You're not waiting on the minute. The sundown, it's a little time factor, so I'm not holding you. to the exact second. That is like when I'll call and say, what time are we meeting, you know, to go duck out? And he'll say about an hour or four daylight. Because a lot of people would be like, do what now?

Yeah, what is that man? When is daylight? So whenever the sun is coming up, you need to be here an hour before that. Yeah, that's right. But I guess that's a different kind of language. Well, the problem is we're going by the laws. You have to know the minute, you know.

When we're in the blind, got to be saying we got one month. I'm just saying there's less stress. If you go by my today, right now it's mid morning. Right. Wait a little bit. It'd be midday. Then it's after dinner is what we call it.

It's nat time and afternoon. Why is it so funny to me? I don't know. Because you guys feel what time it is and he just, a far away look goes into it. He doesn't know. There's something fun to you. What do you think about if you didn't have a clock? Yeah, you wouldn't know.

I've never owned a watch. That's pretty interesting. Because the first thing I do when I wake up is look at a clock. I'm trying to figure out what time it is. Well, that's why when y'all were pontificating about me being not normal, then it occurred to me. I started looking in ways I wasn't normal. And did the watch thing come up the time counting?

They thought, well, maybe I'm a little bit half a bubble off on something. You like being not normal. Oh, no, you're a lot more than half. So Jacob and Esau, to me, is the big point out of their lives is this. Jacob turned out good, but it took him a while. The name Jacob means deceiver, and the way he went about, he stole, by the way, Esau's birthright and his blessing. Yeah, they tricked him.

He wore like a sheep's... By the way, Al. A goat's hair. Would you agree that all the characters of the Old Testament, and we're looking at the seed line of Jesus coming through? through and the story unfolded on how Jesus ended up based on Genesis 315, somebody born of a woman would crush Satan. You look at all these characters.

Would you all agree that God took pains or made sure? He made sure that everyone presented all of the patriarchs of old, the men of faith, the righteous. All of them, it does show out from the first to the last, their flaws. that it does God does show even with righteous men the hall of faith you know

and you have all these names you know starting with Abraham you know and Noah and Abraham all way through where you say but God did show

all of them were they made mistakes I think that's the hardest principle to get over because like when I first heard this story I was so disappointing because as a hunter

and an outdoorsman I wanted Esau to be the good guy to be the good because I'm like I'm that guy I don't like Jacob. Me too.

Mr. hanging around in the tents. Yeah. I'm out of the tent. So basically from this, from Esau getting the acts, I said, well, I better shut up and sit out. But here's the point. God knew the heart for the whole time.

This is, this is a great picture of God, how he's outside of our purview. It is true. Because we look at a scenario like this, and it was unfair what happened to Esau. It really was. Now, part of it was his own, he gave away his birthright over a bowl of soup. Well, that was stupid. But I tell you this, Phil, I know you thought the same thing. You cannot be more exhausted than when you go hunting all day.

I don't know what it is about it. You come in a dark. I can go work. You know, I've worked construction. You can relate to him. I've hauled firewood. I've roofed houses. I've done all these jobs, you know, back in the day.

But when you go hunting because people are you get to hunt, you know, all the time. Oh, it's exhausting. How many times have you heard me say, especially if we're slogging, it's falling down and going through the mud and trying to hide to get ducks and all of the goes with it, how many times have you noticed

that when we finally get ready to get out of here, that we're asking, we'll say, I'll say, call Ms. Kay and ask her what she's got on the spit. Oh, look, in those moments... What kind of food do we have? Look, in those moments of exhaustion just over the last,

you know, 40 years of honey. I have, when I finally got somewhere where the meal was prepared, I have eaten almost like supernatural amounts of food. It's like I'm just eating cheeseburgers like they're chips, you know? Yeah. So you're, it can be a pot of beans, but in this case it was beans. And one thing we have realized that a hot meal in a duck line is like, it's better than anything. Well, I'll tell you this.

Look, you can take any food. Like right now, if I. I had a can of vying a sausage and I ate one, it would make me gag. Now, I don't know whether I would sell my birthright over a bollos soup. So here's the difference. Because that was a big deal. Here's the difference. But you put it in a duck blind in that moment, it's good.

I can see how that. You can relate to it. But here's the difference. And here's what I observe about you two in particular is that because we challenge hunters all the time. I know we know a lot of families that have had major problems because of people's passion for the outdoors. And the reason why is they forgot two.

important things. And Esau did too. Your relationship with God is always more important. That's why we always talk about you hunt every day. But Sundays, we always make sure we go meet with the brothers. That's just saying, God, you're number one over my hunting or anything else. And the second thing is our families. And so I've seen guys before get so passionate about outdoors, whether it's fishing or hunting,

that they don't give the Almighty the credit and they don't take care of their families. I noticed that when I travel for the first 28 years, went shoeless for several years. No shoes, just reaching, get it. Tape your britch of legs to your ankles where you could run fast from various things and various people. I'll tell you know, if somebody said,

I'm a game warden, I'm like, yeah, that's what I thought you were. I'm gone. But during those days, I didn't take God to the woods with me, Al. Yeah. It was me. I was like Esau. It's a great point.

I was out in the woods. I was roaming. I was free to go 10 miles. I'd have them drop me off, park another vehicle 10 miles away, and they knew I would make the trip through the woods. Well, you'd take some of these forests back in those days. They weren't cut very few roads, and I was in the, I mean, in the big woods. But I was coming 10 miles at a stretch.

But I noticed, unlike Issa, when I did bring God, it's amazing. I have a show now that's called In the Woods. That's right. we feel because I've been in them my entire life. Right. But I was in them and I brought God in with me. That's right. To be with me.

Well, I always looked at at 28 on. It's a great point. It's way better. You're in his woods. That's right. I mean, that was the mindset I had at some point when the light switch came on. Way better once God went with me. Way, way, way better.

Well, yeah. And then you, you know, think about how many actual introductions to Jesus we've had in the duck blind. Oh. We baptized people in the decoys. They're like, I ain't leaving here. I mean, cold days, like 30 degrees. It's cold.

And their little butts were blue. I said, come out of them clothes like you come out from your mama. And they're like, what? I said, why wait? Let's go right now. And they're like, all right. So they come out of their clothes. A couple guys from Marshall, Texas.

They're still calling me from time of time. I say, man, that was a wildest baptism. And we tell people what happened. And y'all went out there just knocked some brush out of the way. I like it. So here's the verse that goes to what you said. Hebrews 12, 16. See that no one is sexually immoral or is godless like Esau.

Hebrew writers used him as that godless, who for a single meal sold his inheritance rights as the oldest son. Afterwards, as you know, when he wanted to inherit the blessing, he was rejected. Here's the key. He could bring about no change of money. mind, though he sought the blessing with tears. That was his problem.

His heart was never right. I was on the same path until 28, and I said, wait a minute, I'm living without God here. What am I doing? But you could go back to Esau's and that's what he should have done. He should have had a moment. He should have a moment. Jacob did have a moment, which is why, of course, God knew this all along.

He was middle age, and he had, of course, you can imagine, Esau wanted to kill him after he got these things running. So they had a terrible relationship. Jacob goes off. He winds up marrying four women. That's a whole long story. He has 12 sons. Too many women. Two many women. Twelve sons, blended family that didn't blend at all. I said it's not a blended. It was a blender with that family. But God blessed him. That last wife he got was Rachel, which is actually she was the second wife, but she had his last two kids, Joseph and Benjamin. And he had a change of heart. Genesis 32. He wrestled all night with God because he was about to face Esau. Remember that? So he's about to face him, and he thought, man, I've been a deceiver my whole life, and that's what his name meant. And so after he wrestle with God, something happened to his hip. Now, by the way, when you wrestle with God, there's some agent there.

I don't know. You may come out crippled up. Well, there's a spiritual aspect. There was a spiritual battle going on. But there was something physical about it because he hurt his hip. So he had a leak. I think that was more of a reminder. It was a limp.

It says that. What it says it was a reminder because from, that point on whenever they would make a sacrifice, there was something they would do to the hip of a sacrifice because of Jacob's deal this night. But here's the point. His name changed that night after he had this wrestling session with God. He was about to go face Esau the next day. And so God changed his name from Jacob, the deceiver, to Israel, the chosen.

And so what I take from that is any of us character can be changed. I mean, you can be raised a certain way. You talked about that. I mean, you were a certain way. until you embrace Christ, and then you were something different. And I literally had a wrestling match with the LMA. That's right. Whether I was going to bow to him or not, when my moment came, just like he is.

Right. You see what I'm saying? I mean, y'all know me. I was so shy. I mean, you know, I didn't say 40 words until I was 10 years old. And, you know, I just, he changed my complete character. And mine too, because I was a deceiver a lot of my early life. Everyone has to the rest and match with God

or whether they're going to bow to them or not. It's just when are you going to give in? Some people take a long time to get there. I mean, what I see from this story is that, you know, God has great at everything, but he specializes in making things right when things have gone terribly wrong. True.

Because a lot of these characters who are real people in the Bible, I mean, people start thinking, you know, I can never, you know, God can never accept me. I've done too bad of things. You just start naming. the characters in the Bible and what they've done. It's horrific. I mean, it's like, how in the world are you going to make this right?

But he does. He does. That's why I brought up the point about he makes sure that everyone sees the flaws because we all have them. I think that's the key really to live in a Jesus-focused life is realizing that fact that he's going to use me despite these flaws. Yep. Because that's why people always say, well, you know, what do I do about my, I've heard Jesus,

but I keep sinning and I keep messing up. But I'm like, well, he knows your heart. But he's going to keep using you in spite of those flaws. So Jacob had him, Esau had him. So what about Joseph when he comes on the same? So we're about out of time today. So we're going to get to Joseph next week. But basically Jacob has 12 sons who become the 12 tribes of Israel that we'll talk about as we go forward.

But what a story with Joseph. What a story with Joseph. In fact, you know, Joseph is half the book of Genesis. So we've got to talk about him. So we're going to talk about him next time. He was unique in a lot of different ways. He was smart enough to run from the fine babes. He did.

He left the king. He left the king right with his jacket and her hand. Yeah, which goes into my story. You always watch the situation that you're in. I mean, look, I remember I had a Bible study with a very nice looking woman one time. There were other people there. And I like felt something on my leg.

And I looked down and she's rubbing my leg with her foot. And I'm looking at her. I'm like, I'm sharing Jesus with her. This is going beyond the Bible study. That's for sure. And I said, you know what? This study is over.

And she's like, well, I want to hear more. And I'm like, yep. And when you can find you some sister, we'll find you a sister. But making a move on me while we're doing this. Foot rubs don't go without. Under the table, that's out. It's time to go. I remember we were having a photo shoot in Los Angeles, California.

Jace was seated next to me, and we're seated in chairs, and our wives were behind us. And look, and we look up, and at the same time, two fine L.A.'s finest, two women came, and look. It was a mother and a daughter. A mother and a daughter. Before we could even move out, they're in our lap. Yeah. It just chomp in her lap. And I'm like, woo, ho, ho.

And I mean, I'm looking at it from a redneck deal. Our women are standing right behind us. I said, boy, these girls got some gall out in California. And that didn't go over well with Miss. Well, my wife was not. Now, look, you left out a couple points of that story. I think we were actually on that crew. I've tried to get that behind me, Jay.

They looked like supermodels. They did. And they said, can we stay up here? Because everybody was going behind us and taking a picture. And I said, sure. Well, I didn't know that meant right here in our lap. That's right. And I didn't want to throw this woman off and hurt her.

Well, of course not. Of course, I could hear they're clicking on the cameras, you know. They said, yeah, we got him now where we want him. And he would cook. With my wife sitting behind him. But here's where I took the wrong. Miss Kay was pinching me on the neck. I mean, but I said, what do you want me to do?

Throw her up, beat her up. Phil, here's where we got into trouble on that. It wasn't that those two. And you wonder why California turned out like it did. We were on a cruise ship. It wasn't that the two women did that. It was our response. You were like, well, I didn't want to hurt her.

And my response was the only reason you're mad, babe, is because she looked like a supermodel. That was a terrible thing to say. Yeah. I should have said, babe, I don't know. You know, it happens fast. California. You know.

Well, as I recall, we had a little conversation with the handlers after that. No more. Yeah, I noticed that. No more lap city. But even more bizarre is that two women looking like that would have anything would, you know, to do with us in a, like, personal space invasion moment. Well, it just goes to show you that apparently Esau's are popular with some of the ladies. So there you go.

All right. So that's the Jacob story today. Next time we'll get a little bit into some of his sons and just more stories are the same. Like he said, people with flaws. that God uses for great things. So appreciate you being on Unashamed with Phil Robertson and let some others know about it. So we're so glad you guys were with us today.

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