Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 180 | Phil Learns About Email, Jase's Fried Deer Recipe, and Who Do You Think You Are?

Episode Date: November 15, 2020

Phil and Jase talk about creative (and delicious!) ways to cook deer, why eating game is biblical, and why young deer are way better than big bucks. Phil likes to eat wild game, but mounting it on the wall isn't really his thing. Jase explains the concept of email to Phil. The guys respond to a question that comes up when we go public about the Gospel: "Who do you think you are?" And Phil laments that in today's culture, the "truth" doesn't include Jesus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Well, it's down to us now. Yeah. In this, in this coronavirus environment, Al gets the sniffles. So he's like, oh, no, I got the coronavirus. Y'all go ahead. And it turns out, well, he didn't have it.

So then he's like, well, I'm going to go do my event. Y'all do the podcast. So it's me and you. Well, my take on it is, Jase, you and I both came from the loins of your mother, and I was part of it, the process. But it's pretty easy for human beings to get into paranoia. Where it's, oh, I think I got a little sniffle. Oh, no, I got the scourge.

And I think it's easy for people to jump the gun. I mean... He jumped the gun. I really think at this current stage, of the coronavirus, let's face it, all the people that are wearing the mask and all of that, I mean, there's still the percentage, whether you wear a mask or not, the bottom line is there's a certain percentage of people they're going to get it. It looks like to me, just go ahead, 99.9 something percent get over it. You include,

you're one of those. So I don't think this does any good to try to run from it. No, I saw the other day on the news, they said this just in, 70% of people who wear the mask are less likely to get it. I thought, now how in the world, are these the same people? Or less likely, but they had it. Well, but how did they find that out? Nobody called me?

Well, they took 100 people random, 100 or 1,000, I think it was. I don't know, they take a percentage. Do you wear a mask all the time? Yeah. Well, you've got coronavirus. Yeah. Well, then they ask them all. Did you ever wear a mask?

Very rarely, but if I went into a store I wore it, but not most of the time. But it turns out, 70% of them that wore the masks, they got it anyway. So I'm just saying, I mean, if you believe in the resurrection like we do, we're, We're, you know, the scourge of the earth, as some of them would say, the Bible thumpers. We have a built-in hope of our life's existence on planet Earth. The one we're all counting time by them,

Jesus of Nazareth becomes flesh, dies on a cross, is buried and raised from the dead, sin problem solved, grave problem solved. And something like a virus comes through, and I'm like, and thank God for the resurrection. So we're looking at it a little different angle.

I mean, I would be afraid too if I had no hope. Oh, I'd be, yeah, I can't imagine what they're going through. I was just trying to figure out why we're so obsessed with these polls and, you know, people are constantly trying to give these numbers that say something and nobody ever asked me anything. And you did have the census people come down here and ask you a few questions. But nobody's asking me anything. They basically, I said, who are you with my hand on my weapon inside the vehicle?

Who are you? Because they're just sitting there. And they said, do you live beyond this gate? I said, I do. And they said, how many people live down there? I said, who are you with? Why do you want to know that information? What are you trying to find out of here?

Well, we're with the Census Bureau. and I said, hmm. So I tell her, yeah, I'm there. We live there. My neighbor gave my neighbor's name that lived right beside me. And I said, that's it. I said, so there you go. And she said, well, can I have your permission to write down that you're white?

Oh, yeah. After what you told me, I said, whatever you think, on my color code. That's what I'm saying. These are the people conducting these types of... I mean, what is it? I mean, I looked down at me when she said, can I put you down as white?

I said, well, I said, you make that call. Why not say Caucasian? I thought that's what... All right, well, look, after this, Jay is cooking as we speak. I think he's prepping. He took the backstrap. off a small deer and he's going to wrap it the way we eat doves for my understanding we're talking

jalapeno pepper cream cheese cream cheese bacon wrap he'll have some kind of rub on the steaks themselves i mean the biggest problem with deer which is a good problem is it's very lean and it tends to dry out. That's why one of your recipes, you'll take backstrap or hams cut like steaks. You got, what, four muscles that you can eat on the ham? Yep. And I've seen you fry it quickly, as in brown it, and then put it in the oven and put mushrooms and onions and cook it for, what, like an hour? Hour and a half.

The mushrooms gives the moisture to the, the deer because deer tends to dry out along with few onions and garlic right so jay's doing that today he's trying to find creative ways to cook deer because it's deer season and this one of my favorite times a year well at the same time he has it in his mind jay's last name is stone it's not jay robertson he married Al's daughter, so he marries into the Robertson clan. He's now taken it upon himself because we introduced him to duck hunting and deer hunting the way we do it. So he said it was a factor in his decision to marry Nan, Al's daughter, that he possibly could at one time be sitting on deer stands shooting deer and ducks with us.

If he married in, he felt like he would be closer to the epicenter. And now he feels like there's some many deer running around. He's just taking his pick on which one he wants to shoot. We told him we don't want any of these horn things. We're looking for the meat. So he's got him kind of a tithing system. and he says about once a week, I need to shoot one of these little ones

or somebody with me shoots one of these little ones and I'll actually clean the deer, dress the deer, cook the deer, and see how I'm doing. He feels like he owes us some gratitude for being a part of the team, Jace. You know, most people join hunting clubs and they pay a fee.

I mean, Jay married into the hunting club. You are correct. I mean, that's probably the best way to do it. The only way he could find a key to our gate was to be married to blood kin. Now you're in. Well, once he figured that out, he said, boy, I better make the best of this. So he says, if I kill something, I need to take a percentage, and it needs to go toward Jason Fielding them. Cook to perfection.

I noticed, and the way he's got it figured out, he goes by age because he knew I was sick. you know, a couple weeks ago. So he brought me a deer because he knew I was being quarantined. But there were no backstraps. Fresh deer meat, though, go long away when you're ill. Well, I ate it every day. Yeah. So I said, well, where are the backstraps?

He said, well, I gave those to fill. And I thought, oh, okay. Because so he. The charters parts. It comes with age. Which is a good way to go about it. Yeah. I mean, I never feel bad about Jay, deer hunting.

Because I know, you know, I've noticed that since he's become part of the family, I go deer hunting less because he likes it. He took, thank you for allowing me to hunt on y'all's property. I'm glad I married into it because that brought me closer connection. But he took it upon himself to not only be thankful for being able to hunt there, he took it all the way to I will kill the deer, dress him and clean him and cooking to perfection. It's a pretty good deal.

Yeah, if everybody operated like that? It'd be a better world. It'd be a better world. Because I'm not sure what these people are doing with these giant bucks. I know what they're doing with the head and the horns, but I'm not sure what they're, they probably don't want to talk about it. Because every huge buck that I've tried to eat,

It's about like a blue wing teal. I don't hang. I'm not of a mounter, like people who mount things. Yeah, I'm not either. I'm not into looking at deer heads hanging on a wall or ducks. I'm looking for those things to be in a pot in a cooking thing. I want to know about their flavor. Well, are you more excited?

Duck and dressing, deer steaks. This is cream cheese and jalapeno peppers nestled into some, some back strap off a deer wrapped in bacon, smoke to perfection, just done. So it sounds great. I've never tried a deer wraps. I hadn't either. We're going to try it today. I'll give you the report.

I mean, I'd rather fry them because I just think young deer were made to fry because they're already dry. So, you know, and the way we do it, I don't know if we've ever... It's way better than chicken tenders. Oh. I mean, you know what I'm saying? I don't know if we've ever described exactly. I mean, duck wraps two breasts wrapped up teal and wood ducks with a nestle in there as cream cheese.

And, you know, and you wrap it in bacon. I mean, it's as fine as you want to get a mouth on. But you do it with ducks because ducks tend to be gaming, but a young deer is not gaming. Not at all. So I'm not sure why we're doing this because it seemed like it would dry out more. I don't know if we've ever given our recipe. for how we fry. What I do is I cut it more thin than you do.

You know, well, you call mine deer nuggets or cracklings. Well, deer chips. Deer chips. Deer chips. Well, because I don't like to have a knife when I'm eating deer. I like to reach. I have fish and chips, but their chips are just basically fried potatoes, like what we call french fries.

Yeah. You know, but you're getting into deer chips, like have them thin. But they are a little more tender that way. Oh, they're tender. There's no chewiness. So I cut them. I say never go over a quarter of an inch when you cut them up, when you're cutting up the tenderloin. I'm more thin on that.

There's a little tough part. So we go down to that and we scrape our knife to the right. We go over and move over a quarter inch. You go down to the little tendon. And you move your knife to the right. needs to have a sharp knife, another quarter of an inch or less. You're going a little less than a quarter. I think maybe you're owned or something.

You don't want them thick. Let's take our first break. I don't want them thick because I don't want it chewy. Yeah, I'm with you. I want to reach and grab. Now, Jay makes all these salves. I'm not a salve man. I just, I'll take the deer.

Basically, here's what I do, and let's see if you do the same thing. I cut them thin. touch your is a little thicker. I pour the black pepper to them. Mm-hmm. I mean a lot. I don't use salt. Then I take however much deer I have, I measure out how many eggs I'm going to use.

So if I'm feeding four or five people, I'm probably going to use three eggs to the deer that I have. I whisk the deer, I mean the eggs, then pour that over. We call that an egg wash. Yeah, egg wash. Then I take a little buttermilk, not much, and I wrap that around, all-purpose flour, a lot of it. I roll that around, and then I fried in peanut oil. You want so much flour that it's not muggy, mucky when it comes out of it. It needs to be dry flour coming off of it.

Right. Yeah. I think that's a key move. It's a key move. And I toss and toss and toss and grubby. piece and I mean I'm I'm it's a big tossing separate each piece we get flour on that's it yep and so I did the whole thing's done probably I mean a couple minutes in the peanut oil it browns real quick there and they're small pieces you'll see them they're

floating they look a little golden brown yeah but it's my batter's not a big thick cakey these are thin pieces with a thin batter they're light that's correct And that's basically how I do it. You've done well with that, my man. Yeah. Excellent recipe. People listening should remember that. Now, Jay's into, if it's a bigger deer, let them age for about 13, 14 days.

Just let them age sit there. He's got a little, I don't think the solution is, I just think he lets them sit at about 32 degrees right before freezing. Just let them sit there for about. Well, that's what I was wondering, what they do with these big deer. So they age them. He ages. Then what? A couple of weeks.

Then he just proceeds. He either cooks the whole thing, smokes the whole thing like a beef tenderloin, which he cooks all the time. That beef tenderloin is excellent. The deer tenderloin stacked up to beef, I'm saying it's mighty close. I mean, it's a good flavor. It's not gammy. I've never.

I've never tried the deer meat wrapped around cream. cheese and jalapeno peppers, bacon wrapped, and smoke them, which I'm saying he's not going to cook them well done. He's going to cook them just done. And it sounds pretty good, Jay. We're going to find it out. We'll try it out and we'll give you a report next time we get back together. Eating that game, we've said this before, it is biblical.

Arise Killing 8, four-footed animals. Yeah, I get more excited. I don't know where you're at on this. If I saw the biggest buck ever on our property, I'm at a stage where I would get more excited if I saw a young deer that I'm going to shoot. Tablefare. Yeah. And eat. I'm with you on that. If I see a big buck, I think, boy, that's a big buck. That's cool.

But there's no excitement because I'm not going to shoot him. That's right. You know, these other boys, Jay, they'll shoot them an occasional big buck. I'll see the picture and go, oh. That's great. But I get excited about a young deer that I'm going to eat. I spend way more time on developing the habitat to ensure you of having more deer and more ducks and more squirrels and more birds of all kinds. And wildlife in and of itself, bobcats are fine.

They have to eat too. You know, coyotes, they have to eat too. You have to watch these old wild hogs because they'll get out of control. But our backwaters come so frequently, Jay's, and get so high, the hogs can't stay out there. It just runs them off. It's amazing that many deer is over there on this property. And it all floods, most of it, 10, 12, 15 feet deep, minimum every year, nearly.

Well, I've noticed a couple things that people think about deer that are not true. one, shooting shotguns at ducks does not bother deer. Nope. People say, oh, we don't, I've had people say, I'm not going to let you duck hunt my place, you know, because the conversation comes up to have a bunch of ducks, but then they don't duck hunt. So I'm like, you need to let me come down there and hunt your place for you. We don't want to scare the deer. We don't want to scare the deer.

I was like, it has no effect on them. They need to duck hunt with us inside a duck line. Bo, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And three minutes later, we look over there and here's this big. A book just walks by and I'm like, well, he doesn't seem too scared for afraid of us. How many times have you seen deer while we're duck hunting? More than I can count. Yeah, hundreds.

So they're not worried about that. The other thing is they come to that water. The more water we have, more deer that come down there as long as they can walk. Yep. And they'll go out, they'll walk down there in the water, swim to a mound, and then get up on it and hide. And they seem, every mound has a deer on it. Every mound has a deer. So it's pretty amazing.

A little piece of ground about 10 foot around, but you'll ease by there at a pea rug, and you look up, and the deer is standing there looking at you. You're like, hmm. Yeah. So, let's face it, Jace. It's not very difficult to have plenty of deer meat. No, that's a deer report. I mean, that's, but deer, I get excited because I like to eat them. My wife loves for me to do the whole process.

It, you know, makes me, makes our relationship. She never ate and taste, try a deer before you came along. It took years for her to even try it. And now, if I shoot a deer. You can't get her off of it. Oh, she's like, let's break out the deer. I mean, it's, it went from something she would never do it. Ooh, I can't eat them.

to her favorite meal. So it's the only time I see her, you know, she eats like a bird, usually. But that's the only time I see her, she gets, she gets rowdy with deer. At all the supermarkets across the world, we live here in the States, so we have authorities who monitor to make sure that, you know, various microbes, you know, the way you dress cleaning. But the bottom line is there's millions of metric tons of dead chickens. I'm saying this nicely.

There are chickens that were raised. They're dead chickens. They're packaged in packaged. And you have breasts over here and the legs out there. These are breasts. But there's dead chicken, dead hogs, dead cows, and a lot of them dead fish and dead shrimp and all kinds of critters on this earth. and they're all in the supermarkets of the world,

whatever the supermarket may be. Some places they hang them up out there and the flies are on them. You're like, well, have a man for himself. But we're a little more, we're a little more, what's the world? We're a little more civilized. So we do have them packed. A lot of people think that they just go back in there and get this,

but no one was around to chop the head off the chicken, to gut the chicken, to cut the chicken up. They think, oh, I don't want to hear that. But, you know, what can I say? It's the truth. It's what's going on. But I'll tell you this. Nobody in the world is going to prepare, especially meat, as well as what I'm doing, that I'm fixed to eat.

I'm with you. I mean, I'm not saying. I will eat meat that's Jay Stone shoots because I watched how he dresses him. I've observed him. I'm like, I'll eat after him. but most people I make sure that if I'm going to eat it

I'm the one who kills it and cleans it I feel better about it I would trust you Jays if you could come out with a year and I'd say okay that's been dressed right there well I've just noticed I mean when I'm doing the cleaning I mean howling them around

and you pick up truck to show somebody for you know half a day I'm like no no because I don't want it to turn there you go I uh I got an email. You know, I have a group of people that I, on purpose, have associated with and tried to befriend. You know, anytime I meet somebody who loves Jesus, and I feel like, you know, I watch them and I listen to them,

and I'm like, this person has something to offer. I make it my ambition to try to have as many of those types of people who I think I can get information and wisdom from to be in my circle of friends as possible. And one of them is a guy I've mentioned many times, Jim McGuigan from Ireland. Now, he's, I think he's in his 80s now. And I've only met him in person a couple of times. but we kind of have a strange relationship. He's a, I'll send him an email,

which I'm not even sure you know what that is. I've never sent an email. Yeah. It's kind of like sending. But just write him a little letter and it gets there. No sounds. It just, it actually goes, when you send it, there's a sound.

What did it break in the sound barrier? No, it just, when you push, so you type the letter. information and you send it and they have a sound effect and he goes shum but he gets it I'm 74 and I've never done that yeah he gets it within 30 seconds which is the way to send so jace what am I missing out on by not being aware of this type thing well you would you don't have this I'm having a conversation with a fellow who's a thousand miles away I mean you'd have to actually write a letter put it in the mailbox, then you'd have to wait until he got it.

So that would take probably three or four days. Then he would have to write a letter and then send it back. So you're missing out on about a week of... I got you. So anyway, but he sent me this email. Maybe that's why I'm never getting that big of Harry. Well, that's right. Which, you know what's amazing to me is that people still send letters.

We get a lot of them. You would think... There's a lot coming in my... Of course. A little mailbox. Because I have email or in other people, but yeah, people just like to do it. Let's take a break. All right.

So he sent me this because he knows I'm working on this book. And, you know, it's hard to write another book. You just wrote a book, Jesus Politics, and it's selling like wildfire. Yeah. And all basically all you did is insert, you know, politics into the realm of Jesus or Jesus into the realm of politics. Which they say, don't ever do that. Yeah.

That's one of the ploys of the evil one. Don't let them in on it, life and immortality. I'm thinking, why in the world wouldn't you tell everybody that? Life and immortality? I think it's worth discussing. Yeah. At least investigating the one from whom it came. Yeah.

Well, I thought about that your book when he, because he, He knows, you know, what I always am so appreciative of Mr. McGuigan is that he's, and I've said this before, he's, he showed me that, you know, the Bible was written to reveal Jesus, a person. Yep. And a lot of people take the Bible, and here we are studying it. And look, it gives you confidence. The more Bible that you know, the more confident you are. There's no doubt about that. Beyond your wildest dreams.

it gives you confidence that's right but when you look at verses like john 5 where he said jesus himself said you study the scriptures this is 539 you diligently study the scriptures because you think that by them so he's talking these Israelites Jews you think that by them you possess eternal life and then he makes this profound statement he says these are the scriptures that testify about me so here comes a fellow claiming to be guy that says hey you know all this old testament that was about me now that's not what he sent me but what he sent me was and why i thought of your your book and i wanted to tell you is he knows that i i believe as he does that god uses us despite our baggage and our flaws,

to make Jesus known. And it parallels Jesus making God known. He came down and he made God known. We're here. We make God known as real. Yep. Through Jesus. Yep.

So that's why when we get to John 17, you know, and he prays, which is an incredible prayer, but he's basically asserting the fact that he has made God the Father no. He said it, the Apostle Paul, in him, we have redemption through his blood. This is Ephesus 1 about 6, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace that he lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding. And he made known to your point. He made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ.

The scriptures themselves is not what you worship. His purpose was to get Jesus here and make you aware of it. You say, when is that there, Lord, to be put into effect when the time, will have reached their fulfillment. God waited until the days of the Roman Empire. Caesar Augustus

is the emperor. He's the big dog. He died about 15, 16 years later after Jesus came through the Virgin Mary. Then Tiberius took over. So it was two rains there.

But you say, God called that when the times had reached their fulfillment, the heyday of the Roman Empire, to bring all things, which is quite the statement, Jase, in heaven and on earth together under one head, even Christ.

What a statement. Yeah. So that's why the verses themselves that are predicting him, proves he's here, shows what he did, what he's now doing, right hand of God, mediating for the ones he is the head over. And now all we're doing sitting here, Jace, is talking about good deer meat, and we're waiting on the return. That's right. Well, of all this, the scriptures got him here.

As you say, from Genesis to Malachi, Jesus is coming according to the scriptures. Jesus is coming. It's written. Jesus is coming. Well, lo and behold, in the days of the Roman Empire, like the prophet Daniel said, God will raise up a kingdom, send you a king that will never be destroyed.

It won't be like man-made kingdoms. That's why I love our Constitutional Republic. It's a good system. The reason it's such a good system, but we've elected a guy that and his people, followers, they want to take a different route than a constitutional republic. We hold these truths evident to be self-evident that all men are created equal. Well, that's biblical.

They've been endowed with certain inalienable rights. that's biblical. Among these are life, we're here, liberty, we're free, and the pursuit of happiness. Which is also all biblical. All biblical.

That's why it's such shows in consternation on my part to say, we have the greatest system ever. The Constitution is being just, I mean, damaged. James Madison, old Madison wrote it, but you say John Adams, when he read it, he said, the Constitution was written for a religious and moral people. We're there, Jace, and we think it's wonderful, but there are a lot of others who's not buying it, who are not buying it, because of this

Jesus and their attitude toward him. You either love him or you say, get him out of here. Well, that's what I was going to bring up. You know, a lot of people, when they're they say, well, you vote and you can, you know, people that, that Google things, they say, that's your voice. You know, your vote is your voice. But when you think about it, it's actually whoever's running. And when you vote, it's his voice. Yeah.

All we have is a decision, and we've talked about that before, about making the best decision possible. So what I was going to bring up is most people, when you are public, are you. public or you go public about Jesus, which we're doing as we speak. The people that attack you,

their main question, and this goes back to what McGuigan sent me, is this question, well, who do you think you are? You know, who are you? And so you're attacked because we all have flaws in sin. But that is the question, who do you think you are to claim some?

So the same claim, and this is what he sent me, was made by John the Baptist, when they asked him, who do you think you are? And this is John 1, 19. You know, John's testimony when the Jews of Jerusalem sent priest and Levites to ask him who he was, he did not fail to confess freely, I am not the Christ. So he didn't say who he was. He said who he wasn't. He said, I'm not the Christ.

So they asked him, well, then who are you? Who do you think you are? And they give him some choices. Are you the prophet? He answered, no. Finally, they said, well, who are you? Give us an answer to take back. And John replied, he didn't answer on who.

He said, he answered on who. who do you think you are with a what? He said, I am the voice of one calling in the desert. So he basically said, he was a voice. Make straight the way for the Lord.

So in the email, he said, you know, it wasn't an echo. It wasn't apparent. He was just saying, I'm just a voice. And so his point was that what we do now, there's no different. And he had an illustration when Stephen in Acts 8, when he got up, he talked about Jesus.

He spoke. And he said, if he had opened his mouth and wouldn't said anything, well, that would be silly. And so what happened to Stephen? well they nash they nash who do you think you are it goes back to that question so I thought it was a pretty good point what's interesting

is is Luke chapter 4 Jesus full of the Holy Spirit returned from the Jordan and was led by the spirit in the desert where for 40 days he was tempted by the devil he ate nothing during those days

and at the end of them he was hungry 40 days without food you'd be hungry it is the devil himself who has come his way and making his argument his argument the devil's was the same thing the argument we listen to all the time jace what they will tell you or me they will say yeah but what you're talking about this jesus because you all are saying when we say but i have my truth jason right and you would feel have your truth So my truth, it doesn't include this Jesus you're talking about. So when Satan comes to Jesus, here's what he said.

He said to him, if you're the son of God, tell this stone become bread. You know, if you're the son of God, you're supposed to be able to do anything. Turn these stones to bread. What's this? Jesus replied, it is written. Man does not live on bread alone. you're like, I just ask you to perform some kind of miraculous act, which evidently you can do if you're God,

and I told you to turn these stones to bread and prove it. And you said, it's written. Man does not live them by bed or long. Way more to life than food going in your belly. The devil led him up to a high place, showed him in an instant. All the kingdoms of the world, he said to them, and all the ones that rule them, I'll give you all their authority and splendor. I'll put you at the top of the heap of all man-made constructs.

It's been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. I'm the one that's king of all these kingdoms. So if you worship me, it will all be yours. Second time, it is written. Worship the Lord your God and serve Him only. third time. Let's take a break. So the devil leads him up to Jerusalem,

had him stand on the highest point of the temple that climb way up. If you're the son of God, he said, throw yourself down from here. For it's written, God said, he'll command his angels concerning you to guard you carefully, and they will lift you up in their hands so that you will not strike your foot against a stone. And for the third time, Jay, Jesus answered,

It says, do not put the Lord, you're a God, to the test. The devil left him at a more opportune time. Here's the point. If our truth is rooted in Jesus of Galilee, because we read what was written, it's written. He is the God who became flesh. It is written. died on a cross for the sins of the world. It is written. He was buried in a tomb and raised from the dead.

It is written. He stayed 40 days and went back to the father and it's seated at his right hand, mediating for those who are in him. It is written. He shall return. My question to everyone who says, you have your truth, where is it written, your truth? Where is their truth written down over a period of about at least 7,000 years. Chase, we're reading writings that go back to 4,000 BC. Yeah, which I think that's why they think it's absurd. Because they're like, well, just because of the math, it can't be, how would someone know 4,000 years ago?

Of course, since they haven't surrendered to it or experienced, You know, how can you believe... They don't know. How can you believe, Jason Robertson, how can you believe that there's a resurrection of the dead? You say, it is written, and it is written. Well, and it is written. Where are you getting your truth from?

If it's not the Bible, what books did you read where it is written from ages past that you come to the conclusion that you have your truth and I have mine, so there's really no real truth anywhere? That's why when they said to Jesus, and what you said, obey the scripts and all, he said, you got to remember something. I am the truth. Well, right.

And what I was going to say in 2 Corinthians 4, and to answer your question, what I would tell somebody that is I would say, in 2 Corinthians 413, he says, it is written, it is written. Yep. I believe, therefore I have spoken. I say, where is that written? That's in Psalm 11610. Then he says with that same spirit of faith, we also believe and therefore speak. Getting back to this voice, you know, if John the Baptist prepared the way for the Lord, what are we doing?

We're preparing, you know, the highway to heaven post-Jesus. He was pre-Jesus. We're post-Jesus. Jesus's initial announcement was this, within. is written in mind. Jesus, Luke 414, Jesus returned in Galilee and the power of the spirit and news about him spread throughout the whole countryside. He taught him to their synagogues and everyone praised him.

He went to Nazareth where he had been brought up to the Sabbath day, went into the synagogue, as was his custom. He stood up to read, which means he's going to read them a little text. 700 years earlier. He's going to quote it. The scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him unrolling and he found the place where it is written. You're like, hmm, 700 years before this day and he walks up there and they hand him a copy of

Isaiah. Here's what it said, the scroll, the spirit of the Lord is on me because he's anointed me to preach good news to the poor. I wonder who Isaiah is talking about. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners. I wonder who it could be. And recovery of sight for the blind. I wonder who Isaiah is talking about. To release the oppressed. I wonder who that would be. To proclaim the year of the Lord's favor. Check this out, Jase. Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. Look, he quotes that text,

walks over there, and he sits down, and he's like this. He's just sitting there. Well, the eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him, and he began to say, by saying to them, when he did speak today, basically right now this scripture of 700 years ago is fulfilled in your hearing

I'm the one he was talking can you imagine at the hey jace how long did it take them the people in the synagogue were fierce they got up drove him out of the town took him to the brow the hill going to throw him off the cliff and he'd walk right through him saying right went on his way, but they tried to kill him, Jace, on the spot.

Yeah. Let's take a break. So, Lou, you know what's interesting, where I started this discussion, and when John the Baptist said that, he basically quoted Isaiah 40 in verse 3 when it said, make straight the way for the Lord. And when I read that, I went back and looked, because you were, you know, reading the quote from Isaiah also,

which is, I'm not sure how long before Isaiah was written before John the Baptist, but it was several years. 700 years. So fast forward now to where we are in the role of John the Baptist. And I bring up John the Baptist because he looked a lot like us. And it seemed crazy. But he was a voice. At least we're on the same message.

But he said, I'm the voice. And what's crazy now, when you think of The Voice, there's a people would say, well, that's a TV show. There's a show called The Voice. I wonder where they got that idea. Because it's not about making some kind of an announcement with eternal consequences. They just named it for, I think, the biblical reference, because it's a singing show.

people come out and they sing and they base, they're based, you know, on talent. So if somebody says to you, Jace, Jase, you just don't look like a true theologian. You just don't come across as a theologian. Well, I'm not a theologian, but yeah, your point is valid. They would, they'd look at me and say, what are you now? Which goes back to the question. Who do you think you are? You're sitting here telling me about who the truth is, what the truth is about everything.

Who gave you the authority, Jays, to speak about these matters? Yeah, which our assertion, look, I went ahead and read another thing in Isaiah 55. I want to read it to you in verse 10 and 11. It says, as the rain and the snow come down from heaven and do not return to it without watering the earth and making it bud and flourish so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater. What an analogy there.

So is my word that goes out from my mouth. It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire. And here's my point. My point is, the reason I read that in 2nd Corinthians

where he says, I believe, it is written, I believe, therefore I speak. Well, right after that, he says that we are God's ambassadors. So when somebody said, well, who do you think you are? What were they trying to get at with John the Baptist? Now, it wasn't our idea, but Paul, full of the spirit, said, we are therefore Christ ambassadors. Well, that's who we are.

Yep. according to him, as though God were making his appeal through us. Well, McGregan's point to me was, you're not going to be able to make that appeal silently. You're not going to be able to make the appeal. How could you represent or be an ambassador if you never open your mouth? Impossible. It is impossible.

So that was John to the baddest's point. That's my point. You know, we're reconciled to God, but we're pointing people to Jesus, just like John the Baptist did, and we're trying to do it as one voice, because there's one Lord and Savior of all. It's the same Jesus, even though we've got different backgrounds, we've got different baggage, we've made different mistakes. We all unite in these conversations across the globe without really an organized front, and we're declaring. that Jesus is Lord. He's the son of God.

Look here. Isaiah said, way before Peter said it in 1st Peter chapter 1. I'll give you both of them, which is pretty well pretty cool. Give them to me quick because we got like two minutes. Oh, two minutes?

Yeah. Okay. I'll give them to you quick. Here we go. The grass withers and the flowers fall because the breath of the Lord blows on them. Surely the people are grass.

This is Isaiah 40, verse 7. Surely the people are grass, Chase. The grass withers and the flowers fall. But the word of the Lord stands forever. So you read a text like Ed and you say, no matter what these people are saying, I have my truth. I said, does it include Jesus?

and they're like, no, I don't believe in that Bible stuff. I said, you're going to wither and you're going to fall. You're going down in the ground. Physical death. What does your truth say about that? Where did you get your information? Is there anything beyond that? I mean, do you have any hope regarding that?

You ever sin? Do you ever made a mistake? I don't believe in sin. That's Bible stuff. I said, have you better ever been immoral, ever been drunk, ever been high, ever been mad, ever? I said, what does your truth say about that? What book says, oh, that's no problem? Everybody ought to be able to get mad, get drunk, get high, get laid.

I mean, what? And that's the argument we're having with today's culture. What is the truth? We're just saying, you're going to wither and fall. we're not, we'll live on. Immortality's riding on all this. Need to think about it. No doubt.

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