Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 187 | Why Phil's Duck and Dressing Is So Good and the Man Who Says He Took 'Duck Dynasty' Down

Episode Date: November 27, 2020

Jase tumbles into the pool with his dog while chasing a wild opossum and has a bizarre run-in with the clerk at a convenience store counter. Phil suspects you never quite get over being marked by California. Jase shares the graphic reason he stays out of New Orleans. Phil reveals the secret to what makes his duck and dressing so good. And Phil, Jase, and Al talk about the journalist who brags about taking "Duck Dynasty" down, but is that really what happened? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? I think a lot of our listeners, they don't realize what happens in the 30 seconds before we start. We were just fixed to start talking about that. It feels like, hang on, hang on. I clean those ducks. I got to protect them from the neighbor's dogs. Yeah.

We live in a place where you don't want to clean something you're going to eat and just leave it. don't want to drop guts anywhere. Yeah. I mean. I'm sure people struggle with that all over America. You know, for some reason, I just saw that on a bumper sticker, and I thought, we don't want to drop guts everywhere. Where's that, where there's a dead carcass, the vultures will gather.

Like Phil today, when we were coming back from Duckott, he said, what are you doing? Because we pulled up beside each other. I said, I'm looking for my chainsaw, because before daylight, I had cut some brush, but I had so much stuff in my wheeler that by the time I got the brush in there I had to lose something. I just couldn't get it and I was by myself they were all took off you know

hurry up and go out there my exact words were a brand new chainsaw I said it was a bold move but I said what am I talking about we're behind the lock gate I said you know the odds are with you that's what I thought but I thought I had it somewhat hid because I couldn't find it

It wouldn't have been noticeable unless somebody was just looking in the weeds. I thought I did good in the dark to hide something on a road that if you were driving by, you wouldn't notice. Because the redneck's got a nose for a chain cell. It's like a chain. We talked about that. It's in the top five of most stolen things. Oh, yeah. I walked by Missy and Me, I was like they were watching a movie.

And it was some yuppie guy talking obvious. I mean, they're watching a movie. Yeah. But he was saying, yeah, I'll bring my chainsaw. He was trying to get a date with this woman. I wasn't watching it. I just heard it. And he said, I can bring my chainsaw and cut some of the branches, you know, out in the outer edge of your yard.

The way he said it, I said, hey, he's never turned on a chainsaw in his life. And whoever wrote that, it never had either. And Missy said, what? She pushed pause. I said, that dude is not a good actor. He doesn't do chainsaws. He defended you, didn't it? Yeah, I was offended.

It was probably a Hallmark movie. You can't find a redneck and give him a token chainsaw role on a movie? No, we can't do that. No, there's no rednecks on Hallmark days or whatever they were watching. I can promise you that. I forgot what we were talking about. But I just thought it was funny that Phil took off running to save the ducks that he cleaned, which would be bad.

You go out there and there's, you know, a couple of leg bones. Yeah. Because there's a bunch of dogs, though, and are they pit bulls? Is that what they are? One of them is. I think there's two or three. They tend to be friendly enough, but if you put some freshly picked ducks, it's, they. Especially ones we're supposed to eat, you know.

Yeah, I don't trust the dogs, walk around that. I don't do dogs that come up and growl and attack. I just go right out. them. I just say that's in this now. And that usually, you know, it's like my neighbor's dog, Willie's

I guess adopted daughter. Yeah. They have a bulldog that bites everybody. And when I came, every time I go by, because I go fishing in Willie's pond and Willie's got a golf course, so I'm playing. He came out. He said, I don't understand

why this dog loves you so much. Of course, I didn't want to tell him why. Why? Because people, oh, no, you were mean to that dog. That dog was fixed to bite me. So you and the dog, there was never a failure to communicate. No. He come running at me with teeth out.

And I went running at him with teeth out. And we met. And we have been best friends ever since. That dog follows me a lot. And now he protects me. So now he bites people that try to get it. We just hit. I hit him.

him. He was running toward me and I was running him. It's called communication. He weighs 10 pounds. I weigh one seven. I won. And now there's a love and respect there because you know. Love and respect. But I mean, you can't be like my son Cole. I chewed him out and said, he just graduated college. He came in there. He was bandaging up his ankle. I said, what happened? He said, the dog bit me. I said, what did you do when the dog came out? He said, I ran. Yep. I said, evidently not fast enough.

No, because if you get in a race with the dog, you're probably going to lose. You're going to lose the dog bitty. So what's you trying to say, Jay, says the dog was having a field day until he ran up on you. Well, we moved to Austin, you know, and these two dogs are next door neighbors, they tried that. But these yuppie dogs, they're not like down here. As soon as they come barking at me, I started barking. and running the tent. I just took it.

Look, they looked at me. And ran back into that house and went through that little doggy door. They went through that doggy door. I've never seen them again. I said, you just scared then. I said, boy, these yuppie dogs, they're easy. Well, they looked to you and thought some homeless guys

chasing us in the neighborhood. It was like, hey, man. And Missy said, was that you barking outside? I said, yeah. They're stupid. Stupid dogs were barking at them. I wish somebody would have got that on camera. And she said, do you realize now that every neighbor thinks that we're crazy?

Jase, I hope you don't ever run into a trained police dog. Yeah, that may not work. I'm just saying, a man has to know his limitations. I'm not going to take any lip off a dog. I don't think there's a dog in this world that can whip me. Oh, Jase, that's a statement. But I just know one thing. Dogs, no.

when you come out of them with confidence most of them you don't have to do anything they say don't fool with him they do sense they do sense the fear yeah i don't have any fear i remember we were living in that trailer park up in far of them years ago before we moved down here and there was a deputy sheriff that lived about four or five trailers down and he had a he had one of them german shepherds and he had him hooked to a clothes line in front by the side of his trailer we were up there playing jace you may have been there. I mean, we were little. But he came up there and he said, now I'm visiting leave. Do you see that dog down there? Hook to that thing. Do not mess with that dog. Don't go anywhere near it. Y'all understand me? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. He leaves. Well, of course, when just a bunch of kids,

boys especially, and you say don't do something, then we sat there for a while looking down there and everybody wanted to go down there and see what the deal was with that dog. I mean, it's just, it's human nature. Bad thinking. Bad thinking. So I was, the leader of the outfit so i went in there so i went up to him and he's just sitting there you know looking calm he didn't bark he didn't move he just sat there and so i got a little closer and got a little closer but i was ready to run you know at any time and when i reached my hand out to touch him on the head he came to life i mean he how you went about that completely wrong so look i took off running The problem was I should have ran straight away, but I was running down the clothesline.

Well, he was just right just about to grab me. And I heard him go, when he got to the end of that clothes line, you know. You better be glad it was there. Oh, look, I kept running. I ran for a half a mile. But that's my point. If you're the aggressor, they'll back down. Well, I'm just saying, it was this dog.

Just so you'll know, I thought what little raising you would get at the time, but I thought I raised you smarter than that. Well, like Jay said at that era, Dad, you weren't exactly around a lot. So you had to learn a few lessons you said. I tell you what, I never approached another police dog or anything else. That's right. Well, I've got a few missteps in my idea. I mean, one night I let my dog out.

Missy was in office. So I was by myself. I let my dog out. Well, he took off and I heard screaming and barking. Well, I thought it was another dog. So I took off running, but I was running alongside the pool, but it's at night. And so, you know, I don't ever, if you see me in a pool, I fell in, which is what happened. Well, Missy had these, what do you call them, like pool lounge chairs?

Yeah. Because they sit low. Yeah. Well, I didn't say that thing. And I'm running wide open because I'm like, you're not going to come in my yard. And there's a dog, wild dog in my yard is what I thought. man, I hit that thing caught me in the knees. And I just did a flip, bounced on the, where the, around the pool, and then just went in the pool.

So then my dog jumped in the pool with me. I guess he thought, oh, it's pool time. So I get out, look, and it was a possum. So, you know, I did all that for nothing. I went in there, I'm bleeding, you know. Was the water cold? Was this? It was cold.

What do you think? So I called Missy. I said, well, I just fell in the pool. I was chasing a possum. The way that's it. I didn't mean to say it like that. I meant, I thought it was a dog. You know, I thought they were going to get in a fight.

I was trying to protect the dogs. See, you know, Jason's story is that. So most people, like you look out, you hear something. You know, most people, me and you, you're looking out the window, kind of gauging what's going to. on. Jay's just runs straight into whatever, I mean, just he talks about with the dogs, he's just to get right in there and find out what's going on.

That's an aggressive way to live. Well, I run with the dogs every evening about dark. I told you that before. You told us that before. So I like it because all the sophisticated yuppie neighbors that we have, which are some that we have, you know, Willie's in-laws, and I like it when they see me doing that because it just they just say just leave him along he's too far I came running my johnny other than that he's like good garden see what are you running after I said oh we're just running

so I had your next door neighbor's boys over to my house yesterday so I called him up and say hey y'all ready to earn a little money because I got a little job and normally when I have a job like that I say I want strong backs and weak minds. Because, you know, you just, I need some, some girl, I need somebody to get up and down the steps. Grunts. But them two are such little geniuses and they're super nice. These boys are the nicest young men I've ever met live.

Aren't they, I mean, they just are mannered. Yeah. The Bowes boy. Hey, those boys are teenagers. They're, I'm probably, I probably have 10% of the intellect that those boys do. they walked up, I said, well, boys, normally I say I need a couple of strong backs and weak minds, but with you two, I can't say that because your minds aren't weak. And they both laughed and they said, well, we'll do the strong back today. You know, they're just like super nice by what they did.

Well, then they get up there. So I had them unloading all my Christmas stuff out of the attic. And what normally takes me and Lisa half a day, and I'm stove up for two days from doing it, they did it in 30 minutes. And so I gave them two things. They gave them a bottle of water, which they were more excited about the bottle of water, and then I gave them a $20 bill, which is pretty good for 30 minutes work. But the reason I did that is because from now on, that's who I call for that job,

both that put up and the take-downs. Both their parents are lawyers. They're both attorneys, yeah. Well, I gave them. And look, they're from the ones from California, which you mentioned him the other day. And I told him yesterday, I said, Debo, I said, you glad you ain't in California anymore?

He said, oh, brother, I get down on my knees and thank the Lord every day for being able to live in Louisiana and get out of that hellhole. They're the ones I gave them when they moved in next to me. I called them a bunch of white perch, and I cleaned them. I said, now here are we, to show you that we love our neighbors. I'm giving you the best thing that I got.

I said, I possess a certain set of skills where I can go catch crappy and clean them, prepare them for you, and I'm going to give you a meal. And he's like, we've never eaten. What'd you call it, a croppy? I said, oh, this is, so then I gave him the recipe. And when they, the next day I saw him, he said, that was the greatest gift of my life. It's so funny, because I thought he's going to say.

Well, it ain't saying much for California, that's for sure. I was like, boy, you give him some fresh, you know, clean cropping. That little one, he's just like the other two. He told me he was seven yesterday. And I said, Ben, I said, man. you're growing up. And I said, but you're the only one that's a Louisiana boy. He said, Mr. Robertson, actually, I am a California because I was born in San Diego.

And I know I was only there three months, but I still consider myself a California. This is like, who's seven-year-old kid talks about? You know, that's when they had that show, you know, are you smarter than a fifth grader? Yeah. I told Missy, I said, I'm not, because at the time that I saw this, that kid was five. I said, I'm not as smart as a kindergarten because he lives next door. Well, just right prior to World War II ending, I was conceived in California. Oh, that's right.

Really? My mama carried me around on California soil for most of the gestation period before the war was over, and I was born in 46. Did you ever feel the homing beacon? I wanted to go back to the motherland? No, but it marked me. because I was on California Saul and that's that's why I had a troublesome, I've had some

troubles in my life. It took you 30 years to get over that. You never get over this California crazy. I'll say this. Hey, wait, let's take a break. I've said this before. There are some really good North California. Oh, we duck-cutted out there.

We ran with them and I was like, I didn't know there were rednecks in California. Because, you know, we sold a lot of calls out back in the day. A lot of calls. You'd go out to Chico, remember Chico? That's some of the best duck hunting we ever ran up on. Awesome.

Pintails everywhere. I mean, all the dusts. You remember we went to that town and they had like a hay ride and you stood on the back of a trailer and spoke the whole town. Modesto. Is that where we were? Modesto, California. They had big hay bales up in the city square.

And I got up on the hay bales and preached the gospel to them and we went duck hunting, you know. I thought that's when that was about, when was that time frame? That would have been the 80s. But can you imagine some of those people coming from the cities just driving by, seeing that, thinking, what in the world? There were strong, conservative minds. Well, you know, you and I went about five years ago. We spoke in Bakersfield, California.

It was some of the finest people we've ever met. That's right. They were amazing. And so I feel bad for them because I feel like they're just trapped in this, like, terrible. Well, that makes me mad when people start attacking, which we've documented. that well when they're attacking people singing to God and using the coronavirus as a way to stop that. I mean, they're like, can't even do it with a mask on. And you can't even do it loudly.

I mean, that makes me just want to fight. And I feel, you know, people say, well, how are the people to stay? Of course, a lot of them are leaving. But you always said, well, it's because they're home. I mean, they've lived there in northern California and hunted ducks for generations. Like, they don't want to have to leave. For the most part, there's nobody bothering them. You know, California's a big place.

Yeah, except that, the taxes are out of control. Now you've got this rolling brownouts. They don't even have power, you know, because of all these crazy, you know, they can say that about us. They're like, well, look at New Orleans, you know, during Mardi Gras. I mean, that's well, that might as well be a million miles away. Which is funny that you're right, because when you say Louisiana, most people's only connection is to New Orleans.

Oh, yeah, you guys are near New Orleans. I said, no, we're five hours from there. We don't go there. Well, I stay away from places that smell like vomit 24 hours a day. Is that just a general rule? Yeah. There's a lot of people getting drunk. When you get out of the bus or the car, and you're like, what's that smell?

That's vomit. Well, we have a new brother from that hair. He said close to New Orleans, right up from New Orleans. Some of them. Oh, from yesterday. You baptized? Yesterday. I had sister aren't baptized in.

Look, it's great food, and I have some friends in New Orleans, but a lot of that food is spilled on the sidewalks a few hours later and after quite a few adult beverages. Well, one of our longtime listeners, Ian, we baptized him last year, I think, he and I still communicates some, and he told me, he was like, you know, I've always loved New Orleans. I mean, he's been there for generations, and there's so much about the city, the history of it, his parents.

But he said, you know, for the first time, you know, since he came to Christ and kind of had a new vision of living. He was like, I just don't know that I'm going to stay here, you know, and he still got his kids, his daughters are there. But so I know Ian's listening, but, you know, it just struck me. I thought, you know, it's a lot of people that have relocated here. You know, you had a family in from New Jersey the other night. In fact, we baptized them all.

And yesterday, Joe Joe, we baptized their parents in one of their children. But yesterday, the guy from New Orleans was. there and another guy from Texas. So they said they wanted us to baptize them. And after I preach a gospel to him, I just turned to that boy that had not been baptized over there. And I said, you want to join these guys? We fed them up the other night, you know, did a little preaching to him.

But I said, you want to join these guys? He said, yeah, I do. I said, come on. All you need to do is ask. That's right. It's ask. So you want to join these two guys up here? or what there, Joe Joe. He said, yeah, I believe it will.

I said, come on, boy. Which is all what I've always loved about dad is that he doesn't mind just asking it. I mean, if somebody just says, no, I don't think I'm ready. I've shared stories. They just moved to Louisiana, and they're from New Jersey, and he was telling me the places to, you know, I said, can you, can you hunt anything up in there? He said, not really. He said, there's some kind of woods on the edge of it, that there's actually trees. But what he told me that struck me was when I met him, he said, you know how he said,

I've lived up there most of my life. He said, so for the last 25 or 30 years, I've been surrounded by the angriest, meanest people on the planet. Everybody is mad at somebody. You do one thing. They're on your case. Your neighbors are it's anti what we would see here. And he said, you know what?

We moved down here and then a hurricane hit within two weeks and a tree fell across my house. He said, I had neighbors, people coming up. I never met chainsaws are cutting stuff off. The next day the church showed up with a bunch of volunteer. He was like, we were in culture shot. Now, that is something good about the South. And, you know, what they call a Bible Belt. Because like my neighbor, the California neighbors,

I bet three Saturdays in a row all day running that chainsaw. You know, what's funny is his wife bought me, what do you call those, like chap? or whatever for change. She was worried, which I'm not saying you shouldn't be safe,

but I was like, you didn't have to buy. They felt bad. They were like, oh, you're doing all this saw, and we don't want you to be injured over here

while you're doing it. I'm like, no, this is pretty basic. We got it. But even when I gave him the crop, which I did it again,

I got them some more when I had a bunch. And his wife said, this is just so organic. And I was thinking, I mean, in her mind, you just went down there and you got it. And you cleaned them and you just hate them. It's just organic.

Which is funny because them being from California, right, it's still in them, the organic lifestyle. But it really isn't organic. We were organic before it was a thing. They ought to call us. Yeah, I've used that now. The group of Mr. Organics is all we are. That's right. We have ducking dressing coming up Wednesday, Miss Kay said.

Thanksgiving, get together. Are you going to use those teal we shot today? Yep. Actually, I think this episode will air the day after Thanksgiving, but at the same time, I know that, Dad, you're going to be looking forward to Black Friday. That's one of your big days of the year, right? What is Black?

Oh, that's when the women stampede. Yeah. Yeah. No, I heard about it. But, no. I thought you were going to go up there with Ms. Kay. Instead of hunting that day, you'd be outside of Walmart. This year, I'm going to make a pack because every year.

I don't wait in line in town for anything. Well, every year when it comes duck season, because the duck season days run together. Every day after a while seems like you don't know what day it is. But when I go up on Friday, I'm like, what is going on? Because you can't, it takes you twice as long just to get to the house. So this year I'm going to be prepared. Well, I wonder if the COVID will change that.

Or do you stank people still just go crazy? No, Al brought us the chicken and biscuits fresh from town. They were still warm today. And I said, that was kind of a, that was a lifesaver for y'all when it coming out of that. I mean, after saying, well, these are good. I mean, I wouldn't be so bold to drive up there and get in the line and go buy them. But you don't mind if I would do that to bring it to us. I say you did a good deed, Darren, and you keep it up.

Well, when you get up it before. You can do this any time you want to. I said, Dad, I usually bring chicken business. When you get up before. I go to town once a week. So that gives me four. And it's only on Sundays. That's why Dad never knew about Chick-Billet because they're closed on Sunday.

There you go. I like those taglines when people say that feeling when you go to Chick-fil-A only to realize it's Sunday. That's right. Mad face. Let's take a break. But you're right. You know, it's an interesting dad I thought about it. It's just just as a point.

You saw this still ongoing about the election, still hadn't got stuff decided, back and forth. And if you ever would go drive by a Chick-fil-A, especially our one here in town, you talk about running some volume through a place. If Chick-fil-A were to take over counting votes in America's decisions, the president's going to give you a commission. Chick-fil-A, you figure out how to do this thing.

We would have everything, we'd know everything by 10 o'clock that night. It can be done, Al, but the reason it's not done is the electorate. We've gotten so corrupt. Yeah. We can't even count votes anymore. Oh, it's terrible. I mean, honestly count. But, you know, because you're talking about efficient.

Is that not the most efficient? I mean, Jason and I live in town, so we know. I can't even go to another fast food place anyway, because then you're sitting there in line. half the day. Chick-fil-A, that was, that was, they were, I would say today when I stopped by and got those biscuits for y'all, I was in the, in the process of about 50 cars, and we did it in seven and a half minutes.

50, 50 cars went through the drive-thew in less than eight minutes today. Now, you've got to have a system. That's a well-all machine. Oh, they're out there in the parking lot. They're taking your order in your car, and then, you know, you come by, the food's ready. Well, here's the problem. We can blame whoever we want to, but we can. can't count ducks so i mean i asked today we i mean it's constantly changing i mean you're saying

is there somebody in here they can count i mean i don't know you need to put phyllis in charge of one time we were 20 and we shot some and then we were down to 17 and i thought they were joking but i was like no so i was like we were wrong earlier they were saying we kill four on that round but you know oh but you didn't pick up well looking at the first one of the first one of the It happens. Because I, people, of course. Because you got human dogs today, right? You didn't have your dogs.

Phyllis is, that's why I'm so tired. Yeah. And we basically, and Phil treats us the same. Oh, no, I sat on the left. Back, further back. He didn't fall right there. They're actually better than dogs, but they'll wear out quicker. That's right, because the dog never complies, right?

Well, Jay, usually running around, but he wasn't today. He's not quite been himself. So I kept. Human, you can say, go left. He's left. He fell to the left. And they go left. But a dog, you've got to give him the full hand.

Blow your whistle. He got to turn around. Well, that's the problem. Is a human, though, will argue with you. That's right. He'll stop the dog. Well, and complain about it. That's right.

The dog never does it. We'll back on the dogs again. But at least you don't whine as much. I don't know. I was tired. That's why we were so hungry. Because when you get up before 4 o'clock, your whole body changed.

10 o'clock, you'll run through a wall for a chicken biscuit. That's right. I mean, just the hunger, I don't understand what is going on. When I came in today with that bag of biscuits, I have to say, you boys are perked up. You handed me a biscuit. I was like, are there any more? Well, I had two more. I was going to give to Godwin and Jay, but they never showed up.

So, there you go. Y'all got to eat there. So I guess we get back to John 18 and finish up the discussion we started last time. Which, by the way, we're going to do Thanksgiving. What are we doing that here? Are we doing it with Phil? I think we're doing it. Phil does the duck and dressing.

Then we'll do the seafood. No, that's Christmas. Well, we do, though. I think this is. You know what happens? John Gimbers' fried turkey. Fried turkey. My dressing.

Can't be dressed. But then. I got a smoked ham. But we usually do it the night before Thanksgiving. That's right. Wednesday is our time. So on Thanksgiving, I have Missy's family come in. Oh, that's when you do that.

You talk, well, what happened was, because they're from Yuppieville, too. I hope they're not listening, but. And so somewhere in there, I've noticed that through the years, now they're leaning toward, let's, no, do you have any deer? Because, you know, they'll come by and I'm cooking a little deer. They eat that, and they're like, this is the greatest thing I've ever eaten. So we've gravitated towards seafood, deer, things like that, which has been. Kind of like we do for our Christmas because we don't want to repeat the whole turkey ham.

Well, right. Right. I mean, I'll eat turkey once. And then the next day, let's move on. But I'll eat a deer. I eat a deer every day. Right. You know.

Right. So I'm kind of excited. Well, the Robertson spread is always, I mean, it's traditional, but it's, I mean, it's extensive. You know, just because we do, Gimber fries three turkeys or maybe four. Because, I mean, our family's getting huge. That's why we've been eating at Willys. It's so big. I like the mustard-based fried turkey.

Yeah. The bark on them is what makes it. Which it's mustard and... Mustard? It's just peanut oil. Mustard and peanut oil, I think. I think that's it. You don't put flour, doesn't.

It doesn't taste like mustard. No, it doesn't. Well, it's just like a crappie. You don't taste it on them either. It's just that bark that's on there. And, of course, dad's stuck in dressing. I mean, Dad, you got that. Like, I think yours is even better.

and grannies, which was the original, but you got that down. I watched her make it, and she asked me, she said, how come you're always standing here when I'm making it? I said, I'm not going to forget how you're making it because I like it. I said, I'm going to make that, Mom, just like you make it. Yeah, and you usually have a little, hopefully some green wing teal in there, which the baked duck is really good if it's with dressing. Well, that's what made me so happy today.

I mean, we killed a bunch of ducks the first two days, but it was just frustrating hunt. But today, in three green winged teal came left or right. That's the first green wing tip. We killed one single Sunday, but because I thought, okay, those are your eating doth. That's right. You non-duck hunters, that is the greatest eating duck out there. It's just that. We got the Thanksgiving ducks on the third day, Woody's and Teal.

Yep. They're the best. You're the best. And you use the, so when you do your dressing, you use the duck fat. I mean, you boil the duck, so is that, that duck stock is what you put into the dressing? That's what makes it so good. Yeah, you know, duck, the fat on duck, most people don't know this. I mean, it's really the best part of the duck.

It's cornbread, onions, bell, pepper, and celery. So you cook the cornbread first and then just go out of it ready and put in some, say, a rack of rich crackers in about two racks of saltine crackers. And you get all that crushed up. And then you put you, have your veggies, your salt. sauteed. Which is what's the veggies? onions, bell, pepper, and celery.

I already cook that down where they're done. Louisiana Trinity. Plus, it's a pretty good pile of it for that much jason. You put that over in there. Then you cut it with duck broth and you get it to where it's the right consistency. About one can of pet milk. Check it for salt. You salt to cornbread and all, but just check it for salt and black pepper a little bit.

And you stir it around there. And then the ducks you boil to get the broth, the duck broth, you just take them and I usually strategically place them like all the way around it's a big pot like that huge pot I just go all the way around like three woodies in the middle yeah and circled by the wood of the teal yeah I didn't realize the whole presentation you have all way it's it's when you lift the lid at people whoa I've seen it for it's like ooh yeah but dads is and this is not a dry dress that's been saying most people's dressing a dry dress on which I don't care much much more. This is moist. Not runny, but moist. Exactly. You can't eat it. Runny's not eaten. And I never ate it as a kid when Granny made it because you know, oh, it's got it, it's got this. And now, I mean, it's so delicious. I'm like, you idiot. It's good. 30 years you never ate. Thank you. Girls, you just heard it. It's an easy recipe, but you do have to have ducks. The chicken's fine, but ducks are better. Yeah,

and some people use turkey for it, but ducks are far as superior. Ducks make the best dressing. Let's take another break. So, yeah, that's the, That's been our tradition, which has been really good. And then we did it that way so we could do our family on Wednesday and then other people's family on. And, of course, it kind of started because I used to work for the church, and we wouldn't meet on that Wednesday night, so it was a better time for me. You know, a lot of people have that same problem. You have kids, and then all of a sudden they're visiting their family

and trying to deal with all that. And I can't imagine where families have trouble getting together. So I say the number one rule. is you got to have great food. Yep. I'm telling you, people are happier and they're more thankful. That is true. When you're eating well.

That's exactly right. Don't go buy some dry, crappy stuff. Yeah, and say, well, I don't know why everybody's so upset. I know why. Because they're hungry. By the way, Al, I just noticed what you put there, you said, notice what happens when you can win a debate with ideas. And I've spoken openly to the world, Jesus replied.

I always taught at synagogues, or at the temple where all the Jews come together. I said nothing in secret. Why question me? Ask those who heard me. Surely they know what I said. When Jesus said this, one of the officials nearby slapped him on the face. And Jesus said, is this the way you answer the high priest? Is this the way you answer the high priest?

He demanded it? Well, it reminds me. of when the guy came up and asked me about it was a homosexual behavior as sin and I just quoted a verse that the Lord Jesus being God in flesh the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit had written down. So I just quoted what was written way back 2,000 years ago. But all the people who got offended didn't know that was a Bible verse. I know that. But they came after me just like him.

They said, what are you doing? I mean, that are you, that idiot, it's out of that. And I thought, they don't know it's a Bible verse. So after a couple of weeks, somebody finally said, he just quoted a Bible verse. Right. He said, where the list of sins, you know, secular martyrs, the adulterters, the adulterers,

the male prostitutes, a homosexuals, and greedy, thieves, junk, slanders, swindlers, that's about ten of them. And it was all in the text. Well, I just quoted it, but I didn't say, look into your Bible to 1st Corinthians, chapter 6, verse now. I just quoted the verse when he asked me, did it. I think it was sin.

I was like, well, give them a verse. That way, if they get mad. That way they won't get mad at me. It was a good attempt. And your point, because I was sitting there when you quoted the verse, which is the beautiful part of what Jesus does, and why he even went through this hour, of darkness.

It says, and that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were made holy in the name of Jesus. You noticed they conveniently left that out. All right. I think that got purposely omitted from the article. Well, so here's the great thought you brand this up because I think it's exactly what we're dealing with here

between the Jewish leaders, between Pontius Pilate, Herod, all these other ones, and then the evil one, is they have to create a narrative. That man came down here with a narrative in his mind. He already knew what he was going to do. The questions were irrelevant. This is what happened here in this situation. If I had known what he had just asked Jace,

but Jase was sitting across the room a little bit, and I didn't know that the guy who unleashed this news media on me and everybody else, I didn't realize what he had just said to Jay's. If I had known, I might have been a little more tactful. I just, but quoting the verse is pretty tactful. But anyway, he came to Jay said, do you really expect us to believe

that you had never had sex with your girlfriend before you married her? Yes. Jace, what was your reply? I said, I don't care if you believe it or not. He had heard that all, he got it off the internet. I guess he had heard one of my speeches. Yeah.

And I had made mention. of that. My point was not that I was bragging. I was just saying, I'm going to trust that God's way is the best way. That's what he said. And then I usually do a little deal about I'm having the greatest sex on earth. Disease free, comparison free, shame free. I mean, there's a lot of pretty nice things about it.

So the point of the whole thing was, Doug Dynasty, who, man, millions of people are watching. I didn't know that many would. rally for me. Nobody really knew much about us. It was about selling magazines. But it was also about his goal. He had an agenda. Was to take us down.

And a notch. Let me just tell you who these people really are. And you know why I know that's right? Because to this day, if you found the guy that wrote that and you went to his website, one of his taglines under his accomplishments is the man who took that dynasty down.

I mean, that's what he has on his website. Which it depends on what your definition of down. Well, yeah, because we're still here. The funny thing about it was it didn't cancel us. I mean, maybe for some people it did, but I'd say we're still rocking around. Which is what our culture does. That's why we're so divided.

Everybody wants to pick aside and there ain't but two. And so you kind of got the far right and the far left and everybody make up all this stuff about what the 5% is what elects people. But, you know, we're just a divided country. Right. So if a lot of people, if you, because when the show first came out, it blurred that line. People just watched it because it was funny. They liked it.

In my opinion, it was funny. They liked it. But so the far left said, well, wait a minute here. We can't have our people watching those people. So dig some dirt up. Somebody go do an expose. Oh, no, these people love Jesus. You know, I told you all that story the other day.

I mean, this is a bizarre story. but hang on before you tell that let's take one last break i walk into a convenience store yeah this was this is 4 30 in the morning i'm not thinking clearly but i'm just saying 430 you know so i'm got some duck blind it's opening dead duck season i'm excited you know i got some few knick-knacks here at the store there's nobody there i'm the the hideous nature of this coronavirus thing this guy behind the cash rester is about eight feet away from me. There's plexiglass. There's a thing.

I never stopped at this door where you put your money up underneath. But I mean, we're so far apart. I'm like, hey, you ready? So I'm, he says what the money, whatever it is, 14, 15. So I take a 20 and a quarter and I like kind of toss the money toward the tray because I'm thinking they're big on social distancing here. Yeah.

You're not wanting to get any of you. And I'm looking back, like getting, because I have a hole in my wallet, I drop coins everywhere. I need a new wallet. So I noticed there was a coin coming out. So I'm like, I tossed the money, and he says, why you throw the money at me? And he was like, real thick accent, not, you know, I'm sure he had. Not from around here. He's not Middle Eastern of some sort.

And so I went, do what? because he said it kind of rudely brusquely yeah i was like why did you throw the money of me i was like oh no i didn't throw it i just were so far away i just kind of tossed it and it didn't as you see it didn't get halfway there i thought he was kind of kidding that it's a terrible toss and he's like he took the money and he said here's what you do and he slown the money down and he shoved it toward me. I said, this guy's having a bad day. I said, well, look, it definitely wasn't anything personal because I, here's what I said, I love everybody

because I love Jesus. Well, 99% of the time when I say something like that, that's a, that's, that diffuses things. People say, oh, oh, he didn't like that. It got worse. Now, you know, he's hot. I brought up Jesus. You dropped Jesus out of him. And so... Probably not a Jesus man.

He's looking at me. He's like, you should not throw money at me. I said, well, do you want the money or not? He went, no! I said, okay, I got the money, I left the stuff, and I walked out. I will never be back here. I just thought it was the craziest thing, but I'm bringing that up because when I brought up Jesus, it just took a turn for the worst.

Yeah. And then I realized... you know what, probably doing things you shouldn't be doing, mad at the world. I mean, literally, I'm telling you,

I did nothing to input this. Maybe a follow up Allah. Probably. Maybe. But when I, there's a narrative. That's why when you said that about narrative,

I thought about that. I was like, in his mind, he thinks I think I'm better than him because I've been in America my whole life. And oh, oh,

you're going to pull the Jesus card on me and you love me? No, I'm not going to let you love me. that's what I felt and he was willing for you to never come back so I mean even just

usually these guys are pretty friendly because they want business you know yeah I said I'm never coming back he said good and you tell me where it was I'm never going to you know I've never been in that story

I was like what's going on here I'm trying to give you my money and the tall it was you know thought it's kind of funny he took that as an insult

and look I want to be clear there's Plexiglass that I'm pretty sure I couldn't have shot a gun threat. You know? Yeah. So it's not like it was anybody in danger from a quarter bouncing on the counter. I just thought it was a strange thing, but my go-to is when there's a confrontation,

which this one shocked me, because I didn't do anything, that I bring up Jesus because I thought, I'm going to let you know where I stand. And I said it's not personal. I was halfway apologizing, so it was not my intent. I just didn't. I mean, we're a long way apart, buddy. That's kind of what I was done. Ha ha, ha.

He had an issue. Yeah. Well, and that was my point about this whole thing. And to be honest with you, I've studied John many times. I've taught it. And I guess it's because of where we are now as a people and where we are in our country. But I never realized how political this amphitheater was around Jesus in this moment. Because he was the only one that was telling the truth.

and everybody else had a narrative. I mean, the Jewish leadership, they wanted to kill him because they wanted to shut him up. Remember they? I mean, that was their... You referred to old pilot as hold on to power without being boxed in by truth. Exactly.

Boy, you talk about a statement out of this day. Isn't it sad, though, in our society as human beings that God knew the one thing he could count on was the hypocrisy of religious leaders and political people to do what shouldn't be done, And you put them together in this situation, and that's what they came up with. So, look, Pilate the whole time doesn't want to execute Jesus.

He don't want to have anything to do with it. And what's funny is that I'm bringing up in a sermon yesterday, but his wife had a dream during all this that's going on with him and Jesus. And she tells him, she said, don't have anything to do with that man, because I've had a dream and I've suffered greatly because of it, which I've always thought that was super weird because I thought, where did that come from? I mean, is that from the Almighty? It does communicate and dream.

I mean, because you probably have had the same thing. A lot of the sermons I've given, I woke up. Literally, it's like, where's a pen? Think about it, Al. Look, Roman rule without uprises. That's the way we got to roll here. Because that was his job. Just note.

Remain popular without extreme positions. That's right. Stay in the middle. Well, Al, be pragmatic without offending. anyone. Yep. So you put all these together, hold on the power without being boxed in by the truth. I've got a question for you.

What's changed? Nothing. I mean, that's why I'm saying. When I looked at this and I saw Pilots' response to it, it's exactly what we see today. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. It's like these news channels, though, that you talk about that narrative.

The truth is irrelevant. That's right. Whatever happens. That's the last thing. thing they want is the truth. You spin it. I mean, Phil brought up the controversy with us. What I noticed is, is all the conservative outlets, well, they were all

nice. They were, they never asked, well, what exactly happened? Which would have been a good question. I wanted to tell it. There was one part, the Sean Hannity actually called me while I was duck hunting. I don't know how he got my number. And I don't know why I answered, to be honest.

But he tells those stories. He said, what happened? No, that was a good question. Yeah. But none of the rest of them, they didn't ask what happened. Because everybody had painted their own narrative. It didn't matter what happened. You just, no matter what happened.

And I see the same thing with the president. Oh, yeah. They just picked the side without getting the facts. Right. So in the old days, you know, they would just report the actual news, say, here's what happened. Those days are over. They're going. Now they want to tell you why and why it shouldn't have happened.

I mean, it's pretty sad. Well, I did get the gospel preached to all of them before it's over, because every time they would stick a microphone in my face for six months, and they would say, would you give us an interview? Dad did a press conference every Sunday in his Bible. I said, go right up the stairs right over there. I said, I'll be there in five minutes. You get the interview.

They all would hustle the cameramen, and they'd all jam into the room out. And I said, I got them inside within hearing range. So I would preach the gospel to him. I remember it. And it all finally ended up about six months later. One of them walked up there and said, will you give us an interview? I said, you just had it, 45 minutes.

I said, do I seem like a hater to you? She said, not at all, Mr. Robinson. I said, put that on TV, would you? But it never made it. But remember, look, we had like, I don't know, Good Morning America, came to my house. And we did a live breakfast with the crew of Duck Dynasty, you know. We're on the show.

I don't know if you were there or not. But it was me. It was, you know, my family and Miss Kay was there for some odd reason. And so as soon as they opened. We're talking about live TV. Of course, it's not too long after that controversy. Whoever the newswoman is. I mean, it's like 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, you're on.

We're here, Jay, said, you know, the Duck Dynasty, and she looked over and she said, okay, would you love it? a gay baby. Now that was the first question live, which it was awesome, that she asked Kay that. Because, you know, I'm thinking, wait a minute, the baby, how do you know it's gay? I was thinking this. Do you mean a happy baby? Kay said, of course, I love all babies. I love it. I love it. I mean, Kay doesn't have a malicious bone in her body, you know. She's like, but I thought to myself, they probably had a meeting somewhere, and they're like, try to shake them, shake them up,

ask them like, you know, some kind of question. Refer it back to the controversy. I just thought to myself, this is coming from a narrative that totally destroyed whatever you were trying to accomplish with us to have a breakfast in here. Because I know a lot of people. It's the same thing with that.

What kind of question is that? It's the same thing we talked about forward with, what's his name used to be on NBC, that Matt Lauer, Remember, as soon as the first question was like, do you expect us to believe this show isn't scripted? I mean, you're like, is that where we're here to talk about that? Remember, it was just the same deal. It was like, but that's the narrative. The narrative is you're popular.

We don't like your politics. We don't like where you're from. We don't like your faith. We don't like your faith. And so we're going to attack you. That's where, this is what spawned what now is known as the council culture, which is their go-to. We were one of the early ones in that whole thing. Well, yeah. People try to

cancel you, which the people who are cancel me, okay. I have an upcoming. You sit around and cry at night. We were really kind of canceled anyway. I had an upcoming book expecting within a few months

about that very issue. The canceled culture. Dad's got a really interesting take. The only thing I like, every time I hear that word cancel, I think, of that verse in Colossians. I don't know. You're diving into it. I know, but I'm just,

You're writing the book, right? It's because I preach that sermon about three times, and these people who keep trying to put us under some legal code, I'm like, what does canceled mean? He canceled the written code. But people say, but not really. Yeah. All right, we're out of time.

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