Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 198 | Phil Is Dazed and Confused, the Dingo in His Living Room, and Don't Run from the Mold

Episode Date: December 16, 2020

Phil loves a good nap during duck season, but one in particular left him wildly disoriented. Miss Kay finds mold in the closet, and Phil discovers the problem is much bigger. Phil's dogs take on Phyllis' dingo, and Phil can't get enough of it. Jase talks about God's idea of world peace and the controversial verse about forgiveness in John 20. And Phil, Jase, Al, and Zach discuss the Resurrection as they get ready to finish their study of the Book of John. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Jace, let me tell you something that probably has not happened to you, son, because you're a young buck. I'm not young, but thank you. Yeah, you're getting only your 50s. But the young bucks are now in their 50s, and I've hit my 70s. That means, look, everybody's young. Well, I don't want to say that.

I was going to say, you know you're getting old when everybody else is young. That's right. Okay. So I go in there, usually I'll take me a nap. After we go duck hunting, we come back, we get our ducks cleaned, whatever, you know. I go in there and take me a nap. Well, I was a little late on my nap time. It's about 2 o'clock.

I'll sleep for an hour and I feel like a million dollars when I get up at 3 o'clock. I did the exact thing during Doug City. Okay. Well, here's what you don't want to ever get into because it was a shocker, and I was dazed and confused for about 45 minutes. I go in there and I lie my head down on the pillow at three o'clock. I said, well, three o'clock, I'll sleep about an hour. I'm a little late on my nap.

I sleep better from two to three instead of from three to something. Well, I go in there and I wake up. I mean, I went sound asleep. Well, when I woke up, I looked up at the clock and the clock said 525. Oh, wow. So I thought, I said, look at this. I said, duck season was going on at the time. You slept all afternoon all night.

What I said was I said, I looked at the clock and it was, of course, dark, daylight saving time moved, you go back. So it was dark at 525. Well, I'm thinking it's 525 in the morning, and I've just missed the duck hunt because y'all already gone. So I come tearing up in there, I said, good. I cannot believe that I missed the day of duck season by oversleeping. I said, I never heard of that.

So I walk out into my living room. I'm thinking, well, it's 525. I miss that. When I walk in, Burrell is sitting there. I said, Burrell, how come you're not with the, they already left? And Burrell said, left where? I said, to go duck hunting. He said, what, at night?

And I said, I said, well, I said, hey, dude, it's 5.25 in the morning. we are running late, we got to move. He overslept, too. So I get him, I said, we both overslept. So I'm sitting there fighting over him on what time it is. And it's 5, 25 in the evening, and we have all night before the duck hunt. Yeah. But I thought the-

Oh, I see. I see, no. I've never done that. I was very confused for a little bit. I said, what in the world? I said, wait a minute. I said, wait a minute. I'm going duck hunting in the morning at five.

I said, we get up at four. I said. Because you took him. an hour later and at the clock the a.m. p.m. got you. I was looking at 5.25 in the evening when it was that and when what I thought it was was 5.25 in the morning. There's something about when you sleep everything you lose all sense of of what time it is. That's why I said the first thing you do when you wake up is find the clock. That's right. Because if you don't, you have no idea. I normally don't have to set my clock where it rings at 4 o'clock to get me up to go duck on.

I just get up and I look at the clock and I turn it off and I go on and I'm going. I do the same thing after a while. Your body just gets easy. It's like the split when the split happened the next morning at 4 o'clock, my eyes went open. So I sleep the two and a half hours instead of the normal hour. It's 525 in the evening and I thought it was 525. in the morning. Well, you know what you call that, Dad? You call that a pre- getting old? Well, it's a preview because there's going to come a point in time if you stay on the

earth long enough that you'll be like that all the time, just bewildered. Yeah. You don't, is I'm not coming? Am I going? Did I hunt? Did I not hunt? Yeah. That's a preview. That's Miss Kay right now. She's a, she's, your mama is a belittalded woman because she comes, she said, I cannot believe I forgot what I did with that in my purse. So the hunt's on for the purse. I cannot believe what I did with my cell phone. She's hunting that. She's always on the hunt for something.

By the way, she walked back in the back room and getting some blankets out of a closet. Well, she comes running in there all fired up, and she says, there's mold on everything back there. And I said, what? She did mold all over everything in that closet. So I walk back there and I look and I see all this mold on this closet. Well, the closet is stacked full of just kids, toys, babies, little baby dolls, you know. And so I'm getting in there saying, where is all this moisture coming from?

So I start tearing into it. There was a pile, oh, I'm not kidding. six, eight foot tall in the middle of the room. I'm just getting out. Whose isn't? Miss Kay, your mama is a hoarder type. She has hoarding tendencies. I'm piling up this stuff until I get down to the floor of the closet.

And when I look, the floor of the closet, the substructure, the lumber, the floor joys had rotted away. This house we live in, you know, been there, y'all all built houses, but I didn't. said, I don't want a big house. So I go back there and that that back floor had dropped down. Let me put it this way in redneck terms. The floor had dropped down to where there was a crack in the floor that a full grown possum could have gone through.

My flooring is dropped down and hit the ground. Really? And the air underneath that house, dark, you know, the water comes through there, it comes when it rains. So that floor dropped out. and I said, I'm glad you call me in on this, Ms. Kay, because we're going to have to replace our floor. After 52 years. When you see the ground?

Yeah. I was looking at the grounds through my back room closet. Well, that's happened before. She said, there are little droplets of things like, you know, poop from animals. I said, tell me about it. I said, there's been a lot of things in this closet. You remember when we had the guy come duck hunting with us? And he said, where's your bathroom?

Oh, Hog Matthews. Yeah, and we started hearing some beating and banging and grunt. I heard boards breaking. And so I walked in and opened the door, and he's standing on the ground in the bathroom with about chest high above the floor. And I walk in and say, what are you doing? And he said, this floor needs your place. We might as well get on it. He fell through the floor.

Now, he's a big guy. He was a big man. Was he your center dad? He played football with you, right? He actually played tackle. Oh, tackle, okay. He wrote about my tackles. We call him stump.

And his name was hog? Stump the hog Matthews. But anyway, he tore my bathroom floor up at a hole like this, and he's standing on the ground looking around at it. He said, all this stuff is right it out, Phil. We need to replace that. I said, well, I guess we might as well. You've already started on it.

I got to replace it now. So we put a new floor in here. a name like that i think of these where everybody you know you go around at some of these church socials and they're like give your name and i'm stumped the hog matthias should i call you hog so i got a carpenter he's looked at the whole thing he said we can fix it by the way uh for all you listeners that are did running from the from the mold i mean this old carpenter said i've been around here building stuff for 50 years he said don't worry about mold there's people the house i was raised in the house i was raised in was a long cabin and if you want to take a leak as a mail you just open some

shutters and just peed out the back just peed out the window but there's no window there it was just shutters but i'm you're looking outside i could see outside through the house yeah it was was not a warm it was fine no no gas heaters and all this it was just a fireplace in one end even when i was i was telling missy the other day we were talking about something and somebody said that had a pet squirrel i said well i had a pet squirrel when i was a kid you remember that one of that little pet squirrel yeah and uh my daughter said what happened to him i said well he died he froze to death and she's like well how did you let him freeze i was like well he froze the death in the house I said, I was in the back room, and when it gets cold, you just got more blankets.

There was no heat back there. The wood stove was up at the front of the house. So I woke up one morning and looked, and my squirrel was dead. I was like, too cold. I should have got him a blanket. I've told people for years that the way we were raised, one thing came out of it, and the experts studied it carefully, is that no one out there in the country like that. they because in those days polio was the big uh the scare uh disease it wasn't wasn't cancer no

it wasn't like you know pandemic type that no it was just polio was getting the the city children but none of the children out in the country they noticed they researched it they had developed some kind of immunity and i always took it to mean when you're living in a house with wind coming through the shutters and, you know, some of the old, they're there like concrete and mud shoved in between the logs. But we lived, it was 1850-ish like, but it was an 1850. Just what I'm saying? Yeah.

My dad, he's, Paul, your grandfather, he wasn't much on frills. I mean, it was a log house. You could see through the cat. He didn't like the bells and whistles. No. I like it when just basic things like heat and things like that are considered frills. I mean, when pets are freezing the death in the house, it may be time to warm it up a little bit. Ow, don't run from the mold. That's what I got at all that. Well, my long-lost daughter showed up, her and her husband and with them, they live right next to us now.

they brought a half dingo, you know, half blue healer, one of these wild dogs that come out of Australia. Well, I'm sitting there and I hear a big racket. I'm watching the ball game. And I look around and there's a dog fight that ensued. Well, all I saw was just grayish-looking, this grayish-looking animal. He's inside my house. I don't know how the dog got there, but I'm looking for a club.

Oh, I'm looking for a club. to kill, I thought it was a coon. But it was this half dingo, half blue healer. And that thing was just going from, there was a fight in my living room, all the dogs. That would have been bad. The first thing you did with your newfound daughter was kill their dog because you thought it was a raccoon that had stumbled up into your house. That is right.

So when I came to my senses, I said, wait a minute, I had one of them people send me sticks, staffs. And I had a staff and I was picked to kill the coon. I said, that's not a coon. That's that dingo that lives. That's my daughter's dog. Well, I said, when they get over this fight and we'll just invite her in because she came anyway.

We got one of these flaps in the doors, and she figured it out, well, now they put this big old round looking thing on their necks. She put a round plastic thing around the dog's neck. And when she tries to come through the square, she can't get through the door. So I said, Oh, you don't have to worry about it. We're not going to kill her or anything.

It's the cone of shame. The dog had surgery or something. So you've got one of them dog cones. You see him? Bobo sneaky and freaky, my dog, sneaky and freaky, the dumbest dogs on planet Earth. Bobo is smart as a whip. He understands the English language. All three of them descended on the dingo.

And it was quite the scrap. I mean, it was a dog fight, which was pretty interesting. I enjoyed it. Did all this happen after your bewildered nap? This happened after the bewildered nap. I'm starting to think maybe this was some kind of dream or vision or something. I don't even know if it was even... It's a perfect segue to the resurrection because really as Christians...

I think that's why they translated falling asleep. Because we're just going to take a nap. That's probably right. Hey, let's take a break and then dive in. So would everybody here agree that one of the major problems in America is kids are spending too much time looking at screens? Oh, yeah. You think that's a problem, Dad? Too many cell phones and computers?

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Check them out and get your kids off screen. So we got into the last chapter of the book of John. That's where we are. We've got ready to wrap this puppy up. Where it all started. But you don't ever really wrap it up. No, you don't. Just so everybody be on the same.

I'm just going to quote one verse. Jesus predicted he would. die be buried and raised from the dead. Isaiah and others predicted exactly how it would go down. Isaiah 53 is the most precise and concise story about what's going to happen 700 years from now. So when Jesus dies is buried and raised from the dead, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John recorded it. They all recorded the same story, the reason being, so you can't miss it at all. Well, you get over after Jesus went back into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God, the apostle Paul says this,

I want to remind you of the gospel, I preach to you, which John recorded along with Matthew, Mark, and Luke, which you received, it's something that you receive, on which you've taken your stand, you have to stand on it and not move, do not budge.

By this gospel, you're saved. Now right there at this point, you're saying. So what exactly is it? Okay. If you hold firmly to the word I preached to you, otherwise you've believed in vain. You have to get this on straight. The sequence of events. What I received, the Apostle Paul, on the road to Damascus, everybody remembers his conversion. I passed on to you. Only time in the Bible this is said like this. As of first importance, this is the most important thing that's ever happened in the history. of mankind. This is number one. You missed this and you have missed it. That Christ died for our sins,

as John, Matthew, Mark, and Luke recorded. He died for our sins. Now listen to this. According to the scriptures, what John said is true. You have to hold on to this in order to be set free. According to the scripture, he was buried that he was raised on the third day, according to the scriptures. They were predicted. The apostles wrote about them. The Apostle is elaborating on it, and the gospel is the death of Jesus, his burial, and his resurrection. And all these people that saw him, and he ends up by that little section at one point, if Christ, if only for this life we have hope in Christ, if there's no resurrection, he's zeroing in on that.

We're to be pitted more than all men. That's just my warm up saying you have to stand on the gospel, believe it, receive it, and stand on it. Don't budge. It's not rocket science. Simple. And really it's what we've talked about the whole book of John being is the case for what you just laid out, right? I mean, we've seen that at every phase of what it is. In fact, we started it at that.

I remember way back we started this study. last year, you said, what's wrong with Jesus? I mean, the case for Jesus is pretty solid. Oh. Well, I think what I found interesting, I mean, we're here in John 20, but three times after Jesus appeared to Mary, he said the same thing. If you look in John 20 in verse 19, they were all gathered,

They had the doors locked, which we talked about that, but he now has a body that's transitional, transparent, or something. And he stood among them and said, Peace be with you. And the disciples, it says, were overjoyed when they saw the Lord. And again, Jesus said, 21, peace be with you. And then he said, as the father has sent me, I'm sending you.

So it's like, peace be with you because I'll come back from the dead. Peace be with you because now you're going out there. I'm sending you out there. Now you come up with a good point. Let me read my last one. And then he gets to Thomas, who wasn't at the first meeting,

which told me he had his own agenda and narrative and he had isolated himself because of what happened, which is a bad mood. Yep. And so he comes up there and says, I won't believe it unless I see the nail marks and the scars. And then Jesus said, interesting enough in verse 26, peace be with you.

And he said, put your finger here. And Thomas said, my Lord and my God, which I was only going to make on the third one, I think it is the point that this is not a creed, This is not a narrative. It's not a belief system. It's a person.

Yep. And Thomas had been thinking all of these narratives and all these things in his mind, and it didn't work. But he missed the same, because he had already missed it in John 14. Remember, he was the same one that said, well, show us the way. How are we going to go? How are we going to know? Jesus said, I am the way.

It's like we're revisiting this same thing, which I said all that to say three times. He says, peace be with you. And yes, the last podcast we did, you said there was something indescribable about the peace that we have when we lay our head on our pillow. But there's also a piece when we're out there in the world representing Jesus. And there's also a piece that we know that we have this fellowship with an actual living, loving person.

And now it's in their hands. He's fixing to leave. when Luke recorded the same thing you talked about with Thomas. When Luke recorded, he said, this is what I told you while I was still with you. This is post-resurrection. Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me and the law of Moses, the prophets and the son.

Then he opened their mind so they could understand the scriptures. He told them, now this is Luke's account, the Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day. And here's what's going to happen, and y'all are going to be the ones who go, forward. Repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached. He's talking to them. They're going to do it and we're doing it 2,000 years later. It will be preached in the name of all nations beginning in Jerusalem, which that's already happened. The gospel had been preached worldwide. It happened.

You are witnesses of these things. I'm going to send you what my father's promised, the power of the spirit. The spirit's going to be made available to every human being who puts their faith in the gospel. But stay in the city until you've been clothed of power on high. They did. In Acts chapter two, here comes the spirit. And they're all speaking in all these different languages from all over the world. They said, this thing is going worldwide. It did go worldwide. What people don't understand is once you get off the sequence of events, God had to become flesh in order to die. We're saved by his blood.

The blood removes our sins. God becomes a human so he could bleed because to get rid of sins, there has to be the shedding of blood. In this case, God shed his own through his son, Jesus. And three days later, he said, by the way, for the ones of you who put your faith and my death for you, he said, I will guarantee you,

I will raise you from the dead and you will live forever like me. Now, it is the greatest story ever told, and we're not getting out of here without it, Jason. That's just the bottom line. I was just pointing out that I think here in John, when he was having this conversation, he was having that shadow of peace with the Jews because they have the doors locked for fear of the Jews. And then he said, I'm sending you out, which I think would include the Gentiles eventually. And so later on when they wrote, you know, in Romans 116, I'm not ashamed of the gospel for its power of God for the salvation. first for the Jew and the Gentile.

He basically was introducing what the world, you know, they're like, well, what do you wish for this? You know, we have the holiday season coming up. They're like world peace. Well, this is God's idea of world peace right here. You got Jews and Gentiles coming together and you have a way, yeah, and you have a way to remove doubt about what happens next in the next line. Yep.

Hey, let's take it. Let's take another break. The scripture, Jace, in Galatians 3, in Galatians 3, verse 8, the scripture for Saul that God would justify the Gentiles, and you just mentioned Jew and Gentile, by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham, all nations. That's everybody. Jew or Gentile doesn't make it that the color of your skin means nothing. So those who have faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith, which is a wonderful thing. The gospel being announced in advance way back in the day of Abraham.

Pretty cool, Jase. Yeah. I just think it's awesome that when he got to the end after Thomas, he then, Jesus said in 29, he said, because you have seen me, you have believed. But then he equates, I think us, because it said, blessed are those who have not seen. and yet have believed.

And it just made me think, you know, most of the time when someone dies, the longer you get away from that death, especially if it was someone close to you, the more... The memory fades away. Yeah, the memory fades and you lose that fellowship. But do you realize that Jesus, who died 2,000 years ago, the intimate fellowship with him, even though we don't see him, has never stopped throughout every generation.

That is correct. There's tens of thousands of people today who feel just as close to Jesus as they did in this very moment. And I just think that's incredible. And when they sneer at us like the group in Acts 17, the great minds of the Greek Empire, when they heard God has given these appointed a day

when he would judge this world with justice, he's given proof of this to all men. men by raising him from the dead. It said some sneered, Jason. Do you think maybe there's a little sneering going on in America these days when it comes to Jesus? They're sneering at us, Chase. But I think that's why if someone, Al, you need to preach a sermon on those three

moments of peace. I mean, I guess you've noticed that before. Really, I read this and thought, well, he said the same thing three times in a span of this. Yeah, not only that. I think it was, you know, you were talked about, first the ID said, I'm going to send you. You know, so he gives them, this is, you're going to take this forward. And then he gives them the power to do it because it said he breathed on them.

Yeah, I think that kind of gave me the impression of what happened in the creation when he breathed life. Because it's like he gave them the ability, you're going to be spirit led. Right. I mean, it's probably symbolic, I guess. in the moment because the spirit falls out just a little time later. And then I think it was a preview. It could be a preview, Jays, because Luke says in 24, he opened their mind so they could understand the scripture. That's the way he put that same thing that happened. So he did something that. Well, the only reason I thought it was,

yeah, I do. I believe he did something. I mean, Jesus didn't do anything he wants to. Well, he's shape-shifting. He's mind. You know, he got all kinds of stuff going on. But I think people kind of misunderstand that because of the next verse, which I think is kind of controversial in the religious world. I don't mind addressing it. I'll give my opinion. Because then he says, if you forgive in verse 23,

if you forgive anyone his sins, they're forgiven. If you do not forgive them, they're not forgiving. A lot of people then puffed themselves up as gods, and I'm without getting specific. in the religious world, you know, like they have the ability to forgive sins. But I've always took that to mean in that I'm sending you out. And when you share Jesus, it's based on their decision whether their sin, I mean, he died for their sins and they're forgiven.

But if they don't want it, okay. I mean, I don't know what y'all think. But he's saying, I'm sending you out with me, with my spirit, with this breath. and when you declare that I'm Lord and you share the cross and the resurrection, people are then going to have a choice. Well, the sins being removed or not counted against them, however you want to say it,

it does involve the human decision in that moment. Would you agree or am I way off? No, I think that's right. I think he's saying you're going to be me now on earth going forward. I mean, you're going to be my representation. So that's why when you see all those... That's a way better way. to put it. Well, he's also, you got to keep in mind, he's also speaking to his disciples. So there may be

an apostolic authority that the disciples had that may not translate into... Well, it's like when you see the miraculous and the gifts and all the things that happened, they had the ability to impart that as well. But you never see an example in the early church all through the epistles where anybody else had that ability to impart the miraculous and all the things he did. So they had something unique and special, the 11. There's no doubt about it. They did.

Enough to when these guys wrote in the scriptures, it was directly from God and binding and it had God's authority because they were under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. If I speak and tell you, hey, the Lord spoke to me, it's not binding. I can tell you that. I mean, I may have felt something or whatever, but it's not binding.

These guys had apostolic authority. So I think there could be in this particular passage, I know one group of people would say that this was specifically given to the apostles because they had that early church power that was given to them by Christ. I like Colossians 1 verse 3 and following. We always thank God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ when we pray for you. We've heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and the love you have for all the saints.

The faith and love that spring from the hope that stored up for you in heaven that you've already heard about in the word of truth, the gospel, Jesus' death, burial, resurrection, that has come to you. All over the world, this gospel is producing fruit. He said, y'all are going to go out from here, and the fruit's going to come when you tell them about me, Jesus, and what I have done, what I'm now doing, and what I will do. all over the world it's producing fruit and growing just as it's been doing among you this tells you it's not a long drawn-out theological study since the day you heard it it was short jace it was a short

message jesus died was being raised from the dead y'all wanted or what and understood god's grace and all this true you heard it from a papyrus well epiphrus was one of those guys who got hooked up with the apostles they said apaphras go with us he was a convert and they just took off to this day. It's just handed from one share of one Jesus person after the other. What's interesting down at the bottom of that section, this is the gospel that you heard here at Colossi and that has been proclaimed at this time by the time Colossians was written to every creature under heaven which I, Paul, have become a servant. It did go worldwide. And that text said it went worldwide in that time frame it took off like a rocket people were being killed for it they were

being stoned but they just kept it all well once you embrace jesus as the son of god which he mentioned in the last verse of chapter 20 when he said he did a lot of other miracles that not even written down but these are written so that you will believe that he's the son of god once you're shown people that you have the power to come back from the dead They become the most courageous people on the planet. I mean, because look, people who are not scared to die, they're dangerous. We've seen that. Yep.

That's, you know, you get back what happened to 9-11. Now, they believed a lie, but even believing a lie made them real dangerous because they didn't worry about dying. And Jesus promises us the same thing. Yep. Now, they'll say, well, you're believing a lie. But, you know, I have a lot more historical evidence. You know, the good thing about Jesus is his basis is love.

And he's for everybody. I mean, you know, you just start seeing all the reasons while we believe is true. But you're right. It does make us courageous. Hey, Jay's. You know, yeah. Let's take a little break. Hey, going back to 1st, Corinthians 15 that Phil mentioned at the beginning here,

there is a big difference between, dying for something that you believe is true and dying for something that you knew would be false. You know, the interesting part about Jesus's story is that all of those martyrs had witnessed the resurrected Jesus. 1st 515 says he appeared to almost 500 people over a period of what, 40 days. So when those guys went to their grave, never recanting the story, it wouldn't be the same thing as somebody today dying for something that they believe to be true, because they would have known it to be false because what they were saying is, no, we saw the risen Lord, and they went and they went to their grave with that declaration.

That's totally different than... Oh, I agree. So who would die? The question would be, who would die for a lie, knowing it was a lie? Yeah, nobody would. Certainly not all of those people. Somebody would have recanted their statement and nobody did because it actually happened. Yeah, once the saw comes out, they're like, now you saw Jesus raise, right?

Come back from the dead? I mean, if you didn't see him, you're like, hey, guy. You know, once that comes out, that's when the truth be told it. But they said, go ahead and kill me. Because I'd rather be dead, take a nap. I'd rather take a nap than deny Jesus as the son of God. Which I think that's what Thomas's problem was. I think he had the facts, even about the cross.

He finally was getting it, you know, and now he's back. but he just didn't get that this is all coming through a fellowship with an actual person that became a human. And look, I get that. I think the religious world, people want to list of rules. They want to go to a college course of Christianity. Tell me what I'm supposed to do and what I don't need to do. Give me the bullet point.

Yeah, it just doesn't work that way. So it's an experience with a person. it's that you can't put into a bullet point. For some reason, the Bible is in fact the number one selling book every year and has been that way for a long time. Since they started printing books. I want to read you a verse that really, that an argument Paul uses in St.

Corinthians, which I think really goes to the point you were talking about the person of Jesus. It's in St. Corinthians 4-4. Paul said, the God of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. Him being human, everything we've been talking about, that's how we know, right? For we do not preach ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord and ourselves as your servants for Jesus' sake. For God, who said, let light shine out of darkness. That's back to Genesis 1, Jay's. We were talking about about the breath earlier.

Made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God. And catch that in the face of Christ. I thought that was really interesting because his physical face, he said he's a representation of that glory when you see him. And that's why it was so important that he appeared to all these people. But what's even more interesting is in 2 Corinthians chapter 3 right before this, He talks about the glory of God coming on Moses. Remember when Moses would go out, he'd have a little powwow with God? When he came out, he was literally glowing.

So he had to put a veil over his face because as the glowing faded, then the people, they stopped believing. So even way back in the old days, when you get around the glory of God, it's a light up. Well, imagine if God came here as a person, which he did in Jesus, and there's the glory. And even though, like you said, we haven't seen him physically. We see it.

I mean, we see it in a lot of different ways. We see it in other people. We see it in life change. We see it in ourselves. You know, we see what God does. So it's pretty amazing how that face still continues on, but it's all in the face of Christ. That's where the glory is.

Yeah, I agree 100%. It's like a lot of people who wait to get married because they just want to get everything right from a financial, standpoint and and i see people do the same thing with you share jesus you introduce jesus and they're like well i want to wait till i get all my life straight and i'm like it just doesn't work that way it's a it's a leap of faith in that once you experience jesus that's just hard for me to describe until it happens because when I first came to Jesus,

I was hoping this was true. I was trying to disprove that it was true because I didn't want to have a standard of making life choices. But once I experienced it, I thought, what was I thinking? It was stupid. But there was a moment where I just said, you know what, I'm just going to have to take it, and you do the same thing in marriage,

which in essence were married to Christ. But I wanted to go back to something you said, because even in the details of, I know we haven't seen him, but when you read this story of this encounter with Mary, I think it reminds me of my own life because she got it wrong. She's standing there crying and two angels, you know, come up and say, well, why are you crying? And she's like, well, I don't know where they've taken my Lord.

Well, she still called him, my Lord. And I don't know where they put him. Well, she's got this completely wrong. she's blaming somebody for what Jesus actually did hauled on his body yeah and I thought no why are they sharing this little why did this happen it's kind of like every time you know when you see a movie why is this in here because I think that's kind of what we do a lot of times it just doesn't fit a lot of what Jesus does and did and will do doesn't fit what we think should happen

this not supposed to happen like this and then so she turns around and there's jesus and he's like so you were saying why are you crying who is it you're looking for you know and then we talked about that last time thinking he was the gardener still hasn't registered and that's my point is you can have you can have a good heart which she did you can be around the right people and go to the right place and still middle what he was saying kind of like yes jays every time someone has died before jesus or after jesus they pretty well stayed that way yeah in this case he dies and you look up three days later and you are saying they said that he said i'm i'm the one that died i'm here yeah it's just it's pretty

tough for you to say hmm he conquered death that's hard to do well i was just making a point with this illustration that you can there's a lot of things you can talk about in the bible i mean you can go on for days but if you miss this moment on jesus being the son of god and having the power of doing this and this was all his plan you just missed it you're basically spinning your wheels because there's no peace coming from anything else it's just not going to happen yeah let's take um let's take um let's take one last break. And you know, to your point, the exact same thing happened with the two disciples on the road to Amas in Luke 24. Because remember, he didn't, they didn't see him. I mean,

he was appearing to him in a different way, but then he asked him about it and the information they gave him back was not right. I mean, we thought we have. Well, I think the slogan they said, Al was the one, you know. Yeah, that's what I was going to read. We had hoped. And it says their faces were downcast. We had hoped that he was the one. But no, they killed him. And they're having a conversation with him. I'm telling you, we've read this so much. We take for granted these small moments of what that means later on for us because you can be real close to this and miss it. You can get so close-minded and have a narrative, especially when it comes to rules and regulations where you miss this experience with a person, Jesus.

You know, and what I mean from an illustrative purpose, a lot of people will walk out of the building and think that they left the eyes of God. They'll leave church. And now he's no longer watching what they do. You know why I know that? Because I've been with people who walked out and then started dropping F bombs on the way to the, I'm like, well, wait a minute here. You wasn't dropping them in there?

Well, God was watching there. He ain't watching out here. Yeah. I'm like, I think you've missed this. Gordon was telling me a story. He went on a fishing trip. He didn't Grant with his giving him for his birthday or something. And he said this guide they had, he's just F bomb, F bomb, F bomb, F.

bomb, F, so about 30 minutes into the fishing trip, he says something about Phil and Jace, or whatever. And then the guy's like, are you talking about the guys from Dut Dynasty? And he's like, yeah, he said, do you know them? He's why I'm related to him, you know, it's my brother-in-law.

And then he said, well, is that man Phil? Is he a pastor? Or is he a trained pastor? And Gordon said, well, he didn't have like formal training, but yeah, he'll preach at the drop of a hat. He said, and me too. And then he said he never said another cuss word for the whole fishing trip.

Well, yeah. So it's just like, I've had that. I'm surprised that I got a fishing trip without dropping dropping the name that he was related to. Well, right. It's that. What more amazing he waited 30 minutes to drop it on it. Yeah. Oh, I've had that happen hundreds of times because plus if somebody only knows me from Duck Dynasty, because anything I did anything, anytime I said something serious or spiritual, they never ran that. Which was okay. But I mean, I've gone to events where they, you know,

I had a bottle tequila up there. They wouldn't run what I said either, and I don't think it's okay. Well, they would let you give some wisdom. I think I got nothing. I was thinking I need to get away from this bunch. Yeah. They just run the, I was like the silly guy. I have some silliness to me, but I mean, I was hoping there was a little more depth.

So all I was saying is when I've gone to events or a group of people, and they're like, party time, you know. I mean, we're, oh, Jay, we fixed to have some, you know. We're going to tie one on. Yeah. I mean, it's happened over and over. And then when I break out my Bible in those situations, guess what? Everybody, everybody comes to Jesus in a minute.

Oh, they're quoting scriptures and telling them about their childhood, you know, memories of church and y'all look up and the tequila's gone. And, you know, I'm like, what happened here? It's called a party crash. Yeah, how do you remember the time we preached the sermon? You was with me at the casino. They had a rap band there. They were going.

The whiskey was flowing. But they asked me to be their guest speaker. In about 15 minutes, Ms. Kay told me later, she said, I've never seen a party shut down like that one did. Dad, you were the original party pooper because you poop that one. I mean, you started preaching. Well, look. I like parties.

I just like spirit-filled parties. I mean, I'm having just as fun. And 1st Corinthians 15, after he said, I want to remind you of the gospel, if only for this life, if there's no resurrection, we have hope in Christ. We are to be pitted more than all men. The resurrection is the centerpiece,

his death, burial, and resurrection. It's the centerpiece. of good news. I've got to know, so I'm just going to ride this thing to the end, and we're going to find out, boys. Well, don't, look, don't take for granted. When he said, peace be with you,

here's a dead man that they're friends with. Don't take for granted. It said the disciples were overjoyed. They weren't happy. I don't know what the definition of overjoyed. But Peter referenced the same thing. You remember it said, even though you haven't seen him,

you are filled, you love him. It says even though you haven't seen you, I think it's, what is that, First Peter Juan, Al, even though you haven't seen him,

you love him. Talking about Jesus. And are filled with an inexpressible joy. So a lot of times when people say, well, you're, that's more than happy.

People, you know, I'll get up as a joke sometimes, which some people don't get it. I'll get up when I speak. Y'all have heard me do this. And I'll pause and I'll say, I'm as fired up as I've ever been. I say it like that.

And there's a pause and the third of the people that get it laugh. And I'm making reference to that verse. I'm fit. The joy that we have at Jesus is really inexpressible. But I was just letting you know with my personality. That was it. But I think you're right. I think he.

And he grounded them in the moment, too, because, you know, the Luke version in Luke 24, it said, you know, first they thought it was a ghost. Then he said, no, no, look, the ghost doesn't have flesh and bones. And then he showed him his hands, his feet. And verse 41 says, and while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, in other words, they were so excited he was there, he says, do you have anything here to eat? Which we talked about last time. And then he eats the piece of fish, which I think it grounded him in the moment. But they were super excited, but they weren't quite sure who, is this really him, what's going on here? They're kind of bewildered, kind of like that after the sleep.

And then it's like, hey, you got something to eat around here. I just think that solidified the moment that this really was Jesus. And he really was back. And what party, I don't care what you're drinking can beat a fish fry with people that you know are indestructible and are going to live forever. That's exactly right. I was quite the party. You're having more fun than me right now?

Negative. Well, we've talked about before. We're going to be eating in the Mopoulouse. It's just the same ones that was over there in the Sea of Galilee, and the same one swimming in Washdaw River as well. So I guess we never got to John 21. We'll have to do that next time. I thought we were doing John 20 today.

Well, we are. We did. We did it again. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll get John 21 next. All right, that sounds good. See you next time. John 21 is my favorite chapter in the book of John. Well, I expect big things from you on the next podcast.

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