Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 200 | Phil's Fried Duck Recipe, What Jase Hates (and Loves) About Christmas & Phyllis in the Lair

Episode Date: December 23, 2020

Phyllis returns to the Unashamed Lair to talk about trial by fire in the duck blind, shooting decoys, and who she sides with in Jase's Christmas argument with Missy. Jase reveals a few of his favorite things about Christmas — and a few things he just can't stand, including regifting woes and the plague of Christmas stockings and garlands. Phil shares his recipe for fried wood duck, Al rejects the idea of canceling Christmas, and Jase wants to switch the countdown to midnight from New Year's Eve to Christmas Eve. Merry Christmas, Unashamed Nation!  -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So Phyllis is in the back in the lair. Welcome, Phyllis. I was good to have you. Thanks. And you've got your face paint on, which means that you went hunting today. Oh, well, you did. Right. So you've been on a low run here. You've hunted how many days in a row?

Every day I'm off. I'm pretty much in the bind. Have you been with the last three days? Mm-hmm. What is your assessment of what's happened in the last three days? Because I was there. There are a lot of Woody's. A lot of witties. Good.

I like it. Which are the best to eat, so we love that. They're great. You come back and then we've turned it into some kind of feast. It's great. I love to eat them. Dad deep fried some last night. And, man, outstanding.

I thought it was beef. I do think that Saturday and today, when we were one short of the limit. Yeah, Phyllis has confirmed kills now. I mean, that's hard for a new person to hunt. and we only need one and you said it's mine and then to have to stand up and shoot in front of everybody so describe that. It does not bother me because I don't have that kind of ego wrapped up into it like I know that I'm new and so I expect to shoot like a new person

are you sure you're kin to us? No okay no I was trying to teach or not teach but talk to Phyllis because I hunted yesterday about duck hunting the hardest thing to learn about especially in a blindfold of people that have hunted together for years, is the instinct, like, to know where to look, what's about to happen. Because, you know, ducks are, they're patternized, but, you know, they'll surprise you sometimes, but you kind of know. So you've got to look at other people in the blind, you've got to see.

It's like, then you're ready, you know, it's hard to do it, and it all happens like that. I mean. This commercial made this saying famous, but we've been saying this for 30 years. You have to stay in your lane. and it's an imaginary Stay in your lane, sis. Lane.

Because once you get too far, people are not happy. Yeah, well then you start shooting over people's heads and doing all the things. Then it gets into duck etiquette. For the most part, I mean, unless I've messed up,

I don't know, he hasn't said. I'm pretty good. I stay in my... Stone is watching you and giving you pointers on any, you know, hiccups that you're having. Yeah, it's basically just learned by trial by fire, I guess. Because I was recall, I was here, and Phil today, he was telling you, like, once you shot, he said, you shot too high, get over your head.

And I was thinking, do I remember having this? No. And you'll notice after I shoot, I'm asking, where did I shoot? Where did I miss? So I can, I want to know. I want the feedback. So I, the critique. So I can take that and adjust what I'm doing.

So I do better the next time. Well, you've got a way better deal. You've got the mellow, Phil. When I was a kid, I think the first time I shot. I actually shot the decoys because they said, kill them, Jason. I couldn't see over the shooting port,

so I had to stand up on a bucket. They had given me a 12-gauge magnum browning. I mean, I'm eight years old. They kicks like a mule. Well, when I fired the first shot, when I went, they said, kill him. Well, I hadn't seen the decoys yet. So when I thought, well, there's 100 just sitting there.

I think I'll shoot those. You have to really begin to see the difference between the decoys and the ducks and the first couple times I was out there. My comment was, hard to see. He said, well, you think I got him? He said, you got one duck and about six decoors and one shot. I said, yeah, that's good shooting

that, man. Well, as funny as now, in the old days, decoys, you don't want to shoot decoys because you had to buy them and all that, but I mean, we probably hadn't bought a deco a long time, so it's well, it matters less to me. Well, I will say this. If it wasn't in a deco, I'm just shooting whatever's in there. I will say this

with 100% certainty. Every decoy that we had out today, which was probably 36, were shot. Because I had to put them way out. And then stuff kept lighting in between, right? Well, when you put them way out in front of you,

and this hole, we hunted it for years and we couldn't get them in there because they always tried to light in this little pocket. So I had a thought, well, let's just put all the decoys in the pocket and maybe they'll come in between us. It worked. And they did.

The problem of that is you go through all your decoys by the end of the season if you hunt there. In fact, when we got there, Phil said decoys are way too far out. But, I mean, you remember now when we put them out there, what happened? And I mean, they bombed. We put the decoys with 99% of the people say you put them too far out. But the way that configuration of that hole is, and the wind today was blowing right out. us. Right at us. Right at us. So they come around behind. But these suckers came down out front and made their loop just a sharp cut and stray down. Right in front of you. Yeah, but I mean,

you know, we're talking a few mallards, a few gadball, and a lot of woodies. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, we eat wood ducks. Oh, they're delicious. And it's one of the best there is. You tenderize them, soak them in buttermilk overnight. Yep. Be a little prided on. Pour the buttermilk off, make you an egg wash, salt black pepper, I'm good, both sides, roll them around a bit. They just went from buttermilk. We're eating a lot of ducks. And you whip four or five eggs and just work that in right quick. And so it's really a batter.

It was like a super delicious around steak. No gaminess. I mean, they were, you have to tenders. It looks about like that. It's about that side. What are we doing? You go over all the breasts like that. It's like a meat tenderizer.

He said he's tenderizing. I'm giving you the sound effects. That's what it sounds like. Well, normally people have to pay extra for that, but on unashamed. It's a certain kind you have to have. It's about this big around like a cup, about big of that cup, and it had those needles look like coming out of it. When you push down, those needles come forth,

and you cut the little sinews here there, and that's why you ate them. You were thinking it was a high-grade of beef. I'll have to confess. The first time I got it, I couldn't. I couldn't figure it out. I was, you know, I mean,

you tenderized your own hand. My index finger, and it was my shirt finger. You were certain how it worked. I thought, I get it. I get it. All right,

this is the Christmas season. Well, Jay's first show your shirt to camera. This is one of our new shirts. We've been talking about our new merchandise on Blaze. And so these are some new shirts that have been inspired by our show. We've got some shirts we'll be wearing.

And I love this one, because it says, always protects first Corinthians 13 7 and then it's got an AR there isn't this trademark by the Holy Spirit well it is except except for you should put trademark Holy Spirit at the bottom yeah

that'd be good make that change love all of them write that down okay that is just a thought I guarantee you somebody be selling trademark and all these spirits all right it's a Christmas season this is supposed to be a Christmas special right this is episode

200 I know you love the numbers They mean so much to you. This is our 200th episode and it's our Christmas episode. I have some, this is going to be exciting news for some of you and this depressing news for some of him. But last night, I got into an argument with my wife and my in-laws playfully. That's what we do at this stage. And it was over Christmas. Playful argument.

Do you have a lot of playful arguments, too? Well, my wife and I, we like doing that. And so it all started when Karina, my daughter. adopted daughter from Nicaragua, she came in and said, sir, she calls, you know, I said, you don't have to call me, sir, because she's 21 now. Yeah. She's like, excuse me, sir. Is Christmas December the 25th?

Well, I bust out laughing. I was like, uh, yeah. She said, oh, thank you. I was like, well, is it not December 25th in Nicaragua? She's like, no, it's the 24th. I said, well, that didn't make any sense. And she said, well, why not, sir? I said, well, that birth pains.

Birth pains. I said, what I saw from this woman, I pointed at missing, I never should have done this because then this is just, you know. I said, there's nothing you want to celebrate in that moment. Now, once the baby came out, oh, everybody's happy, you know. I was like, so your Nicaragua needs to move that up, you know. So I was kind of joking. So the next thing you know, because then I said, well, while I'm at it,

I started going through the annoyances of Christmas. I don't know how to say. The struggles, the annoyances. Now, these are light issues. You know, we'll get to what really matters. But everybody will spit that out. If you say, what's special about Christmas? You're like family, food, Jesus.

You know, Jesus, family. Right. But we say that so much. So I went into the details, and I came up with the good, bad, and the ugly. and here's what's weird about this. The ten things that I consider the ugly or the struggles, these are ten things that my wife loves. That's where the argument came.

All right? Are you with me? All right. So I'll give them, and y'all just tell me if I'm off or if you have any comments. It'll be interesting to see how I feel about what you think versus what your wife, another girl thanks we're going for it we're off before we even start i can tell you that no i don't think so just because you're a half a bubble off on everything i think on most of these things you're going to rally with me we'll see number 10 which we'll go you know area of importance

recipe changes you say what these are top 10 annoyances recipe changes what happens is when the in-laws come my wife will she doesn't use the spice because she doesn't want to want to want them to like go, oh, this is too hot. So all the food that we normally eat is the same, but has no spice. Okay. Just, if you have no comment, fine. She's accommodating. She's accommodating.

So you're bad. I understand her being accommodating. I understand why it's frustrating, but do we care more about the family coming or our own taste buds? That's what she said. And look, I'm not saying these are deal. breakers. These are playful annoyances. All right. Next, not noticing decorations. This happened last night. I said, oh, the tree. Put up the tree. She said, I did that yesterday and goes off. How can you be in this

house for over 24 hours and not notice? Well, I got to look it around. The whole thing had turned into a winter wonderland. And you had somehow missed it. I never noticed that. are you with me or not well I would have noticed so the way they wanted you to handle it was appreciate the decorations yes yes she said I was wondering how long

you were going to sit there without acknowledging the hard work I said you didn't have to do it I've never shouldn't have that I've never gone entered any structure since I've been on the earth and checked out the decor

I just never have done it. Well, you'll like this. She said, you're just like your dad. You don't know what he did? She said that. Okay. All right, next on the list. I'll take the blame.

It doesn't bother me. Next on the list. That is Phil Lask. Now, I've got to, you know, be careful with this because it is a good movie. But every year, we have to watch the sound of music. That's why her parents were there last night. We all go in there. I've never watched it, really, until last night, because she made such a big deal about it.

I was tired. The sound of music. Well, this has a backstory. When I asked my wife to marry me, she said, I got two conditions. It was not like, yes, I'll marry you. She said, there's two things. You mean your marriage and your tie in the knot, it hinges on this particular. When I said, when you marry, I said, will you marry me?

She said, two things. She said, I want my kids, if the Lord blesses us with kids, to go to a Christian school. I said, okay. She said number two. She said, so far so good. She said, you have to sit down and watch the sound of music with me. You have to sit down. One time? Or every single year?

I just telling you what she said. I didn't know the tradition in her family. They watched that every year. Look, first, let me say this. This movie's four hours long, and it's a musical. Have you seen it? No. So, oh, I heard.

Now look. I've heard of it. So I, look, did I watch the sound of music? I'm like, if you want me to watch this movie to marry you, go get it. Let's go to Blockbuster back then, you know. So I did, and I thought, okay, the story's pretty good, but I get so bored with all the singing.

Now, I got to be careful in saying that, because look, last night, here we are, we've been married 30 years. And her family is like musical. All of them can sing. Ow. Right. They all cried last night. I ain't talking about

Because you watch the movie No, they cry every time They watch the movie They cry They sing Like when the songs come on They all sing So the effect of it is sadness

Well, I think they're Is it tears of joy? It's a great movie A great musical But I could not watch it Over and over and over again So it is a beautiful story If someone hasn't seen it

I wouldn't want to give away the end It was like the 60s right If you hadn't seen that. Julie Andrews, I mean, she's brilliant. Well, y'all hadn't seen it. I haven't seen it. For last night's the first time I watched it, but I did, like, blank out over, I'd say half of it. Well, they're singing these little cuckoo sauce, cuckoo.

And they're all singing it. But they're children. I'm just scared somebody's going to walk in and see me sitting there doing this. I wouldn't have been a film. Hang on, let's take a break. All right, look. We did a production of that in Nicaragua, by the way. The school put on a production.

of the sound of music and it was really good i was a nun i was one of the singing nuns well the line of the movie is at the end the germans or after this family whatever i'm gonna i hope i'll ruin the movie for everybody and their car their vehicles wouldn't crank and they were trying to go and this movie was made like what 1920 40s 60s or something it's old and the two nuns are standing there and they said bless me sister for for i have sinned and they said they said bless me sister for i have sinned the nun say this and she looked like what and they came out with i've never seen such a spark plug it was like a spark plug it was like a spark plug it was like this big you know wires hanging off of they had taken the spark plugs out of the german vehicles so the austrians

could go up the mountain and sing more songs kukoo see that's the difference that my family days we we watch christmas vacation there that's our well we'll watch this that on Christmas Day, but we have the sound of music thing going. If she ever listens to this, this could be a deal breaker for something for it. Well, you're already married 30 years. Okay. All right. So next, in-law gifts.

This was weird for me to bring up last night with my in-laws there. But I just had to do it. I went through, broke the fifth wall or whatever they call it. And because one time, and here's what I mean, this is annoyance. One time, one of her in-laws, look, one of her in-laws, look, one. One of our in-laws gave me a picture of herself. It was like a portrait. I didn't know her very well.

It was like 1970s frame, but I'm like, I got nothing. Okay, made me get a bit. It was annoying to me. All right. So you had no response. Did you say, oh, this is a... I was so... shopped when I opened it.

So listen to what I did. I wrote this down because here's what she got mad about. I'm going to go ahead and confess my sin. So what I did is, she takes me to this, some of her friends, we did this last year or a couple years ago. We go to some of her friends and they call it a white elephant re-gifting party. I didn't want to go. But it's Christmas and these are some of the annoying things you have to do.

well I took that picture that was my gift so they opened up and it's just an old lady bad move I thought it was hilarious now that didn't go well I bet nobody I bet nobody stole that whoever opened that went on with I thought I thought the object of the game was to be humor it is I think that's the times I've done it it wasn't funny all right it would have been funny to me. I'm with you on that one. Another one, annoying, explaining to your kids that I'm Santa.

Right? Phil, you didn't do this. There comes a time. I mean, here's what I did, and this is the backstory of this. My son Cole at four years old comes in, and he's like, Dad, you know, who is Santa really? Or something like that. Cole is a thinker too, so I could see him.

He's four years old. He's starting early. I said, Cole, I'm Santa. the gifts are coming from me. But if you ever tell your mom that I told you, I'm going to whip your butt. So look, here's the funny part. Every year, the only person that thinks that they're playing the Santa game is Missy. All my kids, I've already told them all.

That is so sad. That is so sad. I think they're old enough now to where they get. it. Well, now they're adults. Well, the problem was when Cole was about 12 or 13 in a moment of stupidity,

he tells his mom that I told him when he was four that I was Santa. You know, I'm in there doing whatever. She come in there and said, Cole just told me one of the strangest things I've ever heard. Well, what am I going to do? Lie? I said, yeah, I

told him. You know, I'm not going to be superstitious about that kind of stuff, I believe in God Almighty, you know? That didn't work. So, all right, I have two more of the annoyances. Now, this one is a little more cultural. Merry Christmas. I'm annoyed when people are annoyed

that you tell them Merry Christmas. This is the only annoyance she agreed with, Bill. Was the Merry Christmas. Because you're in the Christmas spirit. But people in our culture now are offended because you've got Christ in the Christmas. It's kind of become a political line. Yeah. Because you can say happy holidays.

So every time somebody says that to me, I always respond with Merry Christmas. It's just a reaction. But most people say it back. I put this down to be positive because I don't want you to think that's negative. The number one annoyance is when it's over. Having to take it all down? It's annoying when it's over. Well, we love, I mean, because that's my segue into the positive.

Right. You know, as annoying as those things are, I do love. Dealing with your in-laws, when the party's over, I would think that's not an annoyance. That's a yay moment. Yeah, yeah. I left off one. I skipped it, and this is a biggie. So I would put this number one besides the Merry Christmas.

Stockings. Stockings? You know how they hang the stockings up? Look, my wife has done this for 25 years. She puts stockings up with, I had to look the word up because I didn't know what it was, garland. It's green, leafy-like brush. Like a duck fly.

Brush. Okay. He sees brush. And you said, where am I going with this? Okay, here's the deal. When she puts this up, you cannot see this. the score of the game of any football game.

You can't see the ticker. Not okay. You try to look at their stocks. Can't see the ticker. I'm with you on this one too. So I'm like, can we get this down a little so I can see what the score is? How much time's left?

I have to send a kid now that my kids are grown, I can't do it. I send them up there and say, how many timeouts we got left? That's real. We have this argument every year. And I'm sitting there doing this. This place garland.

I love stockings, but nothing should block the TV. Thank you. Will you talk to Missy about this? I will. Because it is, I just want to rip it down because the fireplace is right under it. And I'm looking at the fire. I'm looking at the garland. Because it's so dry.

You could just throw it. And then I, well, what I thought about saying was, that thing must have fell right next to that fire. We could have burned the house down. Fortunately, that was the only thing that burned up. all right so here's the positives now i'm going to quickly go through these because i think y'all agree i put dominoes because when i was a kid i used to love all my family coming in because that was more competition for dominoes and so philiston though because you're new to the this is your first christmas with all of us so

in the old days granny and paul live right next door so christmas more than anything but also sometimes thanksgiving all the cousins and you know my uncles and aunts would come and and and day. So it was fun. It was just like a week of dominoes, card games, us playing football in the yard. I mean, a lot of our early, really good memories around the holidays were because of that, I think. Yeah. Because it was like 15 years.

Of course, then I put homemade food, which is obvious for us, but I think a lot of people, that's about the only time they cook is during the holidays. Yeah. So, I mean, that stands out as a subtlety that, because if you have bad food, guess what, no matter what you're celebrating or trying a day. And we have pretty much traditional. food except we fry our turkeys on Thanksgiving. So we do like a Cajun-type Christmas meal. I'm looking forward to that. We always had a traditional meal, but I grew up around 45 minutes

from here. And my grandma made, you know, cornbread dressing. I didn't know what stovetop stuffing was until I went to Iowa with my husband. And his grandma broke out this box. And I was like, what's that? And she said stuffing. And I'm still like looking at it. And I'm like, oh, I think this is a substitute for cornbread dressing and it's not but it's not really a substitute well i did learn uh feel and k you know taught me this if you want to guarantee good food for every occasion do it yourself yeah learn learn it and do it let's take another break jane i made a power play about three years into our marriage i just went for it because they always like like to eat out on Sundays and I said look how about we go to our house you know and I'll

cook us a meal and that led to how about we have the holiday celebration whatever it is here and we'll cook what I noticed the reason it's sold because people don't some people don't like to cook yeah I mean it's just it's exhausting which it is I mean I've seen y'all peel you know 12 pounds of shrimp oh it's the prep work on a big feed is where all the work But you'd rather be exhausted and eat. Practice hospitality without grumbling. Yeah, good. Especially in your family.

Okay. Now, number three, I have mistletoe. And there's a backstory here. When I was a kid, this is the story that I've never told anyone because I was a little embarrassed, but I did it. I realized that over here, to this day, on our land, it is a mistletoe haven. Have you noticed all the mistletoe? Yeah. So I would go shoot it.

when I was a kid because at our school, they were real superstitious, not superstitious, traditional, like when you turn somebody's ring, whatever, like when you graduate, you had to kiss the person who did it the 87th time or whatever the year was. We were graduating at Pinecrest. I don't know if your class was like that. Never. That must be after me. I never heard that one.

Well, there was a lot of kissing, but it had nothing to do with rings. Well, my junior high, pre-junior high. we use mistletoe to try to kiss the prettiest girls. Well, I would sell it for anywhere from one to five dollars a bag. You wonder why Jace entered up like he is? You're wondering with that bunch of in-laws he's got. I tell you what, he's a Christmas capitalist. He's been through a long desert march.

It was something to me that was enjoyable because I could go hunt for the mistletoe and then get paid for it. Well, I'd heard this story about Willie and the gum and candies, but I'd never heard the mistletoe story. It was legitimate mistletoe. Yeah. I mean, shot. I've never seen it. I don't know if you'd ask me, where do you find mistletoe? I'll shoot you some.

I'll shoot you some. We'll go in the woods and I say it's just a green ball in the top of trees. It stands out. Where does it grow besides here? I don't know that. But we got a bunch of it. I don't know why they ended up making mistletoe such a big deal, but it's a, it goes way back.

Well, yeah, and the tradition was you'd hang it up and then, you know, somebody stands on it. Well, that's what we do. All the, you know, them guys that stick it up, you got to kiss or you go be, you know, curse for 12 years. Yeah. I mean, I would give them the story, you know what I mean.

You're never going to get married if you don't do it. So, all right. I told you this was nonsensical. Now, these are more positive. All right, caroling. Because I've even, you know, I think y'all have people come from our church. They're big carolers.

You know, this year, it's interesting, Jay, since because of COVID, they're not, there's been a group that's been Christmas Carolyn for all the years we've been at WF. They're not doing it. They're not doing it. They're not doing it,

but they're doing a virtual Wednesday night they're going to Christmas carol. All the carolers are, and then they send it out for everybody to watch it on their computers or whatever. So they are still doing it, but it's not, you know, when they come to the front doors. They invited people to come and listen at the church if you're around here.

Oh, they're awesome. They came to our house last year. Well, a couple of years ago, or was it last year? We were at your house. Yeah, you were in that group. The derage of African kids were in town. And they were caroling with them.

And it was awesome. These kids can sing. I've been a recipient more than I've been part of the, I actually, because Missy sings well, and I can hum a low-based note. But I just like that tradition. I like the power of singing in malls and like these people who just get radical with it and sing about Jesus in places where it's just. I saw last year there was a group, some community college, and so all their choir groups,

they were going to a Houston mall and they were dressed into the old Victorian, you know, with the big hats and the dresses and they were just singing going, you know, Christmas songs going through the mall. It was amazing. I mean, just watching it was fantastic. Okay. And I only have three more on the positive. And I put magical because now Missy, when I was, I read these to Missy last night after we had our two hour argument because I said, no, there's some positives. And I gave her these. And she's like, well, most of those are. just positives for you. But, uh, because I had duck season at the top.

I omitted that because I think that's obvious. But there was a question about whether or not we're duck cunning Christmas morning. I'm in. Yeah. Look. Jase Houston, most of, I would miss. For years he missed when his kids were little. I can get that little kids.

She said, this is weird. All my kids, I heard her say this to Karina. She's like, all the kids are not going to be here until the afternoon in Christmas. I said, well, Why? She said what? I was like, well, I'll go hunting. So for a few years when our kids were little, it was mainly just dad. That's three that signed up, me, the daughter, and you. Well, Karina said, well, can I come?

Stone was hedgy, hedgy, hedgy, hedgy, hedgy, hedgey, hedge. We may be. Anna said she didn't care. And Joel is going. Let's bring Karina as a conscientious subjector. Bring her hunting? Well, just to watch. So she doesn't like it?

Well, I took her a couple times, you know, but she's not ready for live action. You know, I let her shoot a gun. I mean, I was very safe. The more I'm listening to you this morning, the more I'm entertaining the thought that I am indeed mellowing to stay so quiet after hearing your rant on all of this. He's starting to lose a little bit when you talked about bringing another girl on. You're crossing bridges. I never had to cross, yes. Phil, it's a lot easier in life just to say,

but I get in the game and try to have reasonable discussions about these things. I mean, it's frustrating when you watch the football game, you can't see the score. And, I mean, I go to, like, look, the first two years, I'm going to be honest. I ripped that thing down to it before. Well, that's what would have been my move. Well, I did that, and guess what?

She just put it back up, you know. Then she started getting all teary-eyed about believing in Christmas, and it's a spirit. You've got to have the... stockings on the mano and I was like okay so now I gotta have my computer while I'm watching the game

just so I can say how many time out the clock so I'm literally doing this I know you act a little odd from time but after hearing your story about your in-laws where it started and where you are now I would say you've done well my son to come out of there

with a sound mind I love my wife's ability such as it is to sing. I love it and she sings, you know, mostly about God, so I love it. But there is a byproduct that comes with it, which is

we watch musical movies that I would never watch. I mean, she's like, come watch this movie with me. What am I going to say? No. Your mother would never say to me, Phil, let's go watch a musical. Let's go turn on a musical. She wouldn't say that. Do yourself a favor.

Watch the sound of music with K. Now, you need to have plenty of rest and sleep before you start. Because it's hard to stay awake. I think I know it may be difficult, but I believe I can get by on planet Earth without that movie. It's a pretty good movie if you can make it to the end. Hang on, Jay's. Let's take another point. All right. So, magical, and I don't mean Revelation 28 magical. I just mean, I do like the idea of believing in imaginary things and, you know, Santa Claus.

and we had the little elf guy that moved around when our kids were real little. What do they call that? Elf on the shelf. Elf on the shelf. So you move it every night and they wake up in their life. I forgot why it moves every night. Well, it gets these different positions and all this stuff. And then we're big into it with my grandkids, but there's two now.

So there's an elf on the shelf, and then somebody came up with an Uncle Si elf and sold it. Well, that's just fortified. So now we've got. and pixie or whatever the other one's name is so we have two of it my own okay and then the last two are really serious i mean i wasn't being playful those are just all you know i thought small subtleties grace giving and i say that because every year you know i know y'all do different things we pick a family and i mean we give them a pretty big chunk of money uh and it's not like we're just enabling our, you know, I remember

a couple times it was over, you know, somebody was diagnosed with a disease and, you know, it's close to us, and we just, and I love doing that every year. Yeah, that's too. We've got one of my Lisa's nieces,

they have eight foster kids. They had two kids they raised and they've adopted eight kids out of two different families because she's a nurse at Charity Hospital. And just such givers, you You know, and so we know they've got all those kids, you know, so we always give them money, you know, to be stuff like that.

I think there's a lot of people giving to charities and all, and that's great. But I just think there's something special about finding a family and just, because, you know, you think, well, you can't help them all. Nope, but I can tell you what, you can take one and really, just really help them. And especially as people of character and it's just, you know, sometimes life is hard and tough. They're in a tough situation. We got it. Here it is.

But even when we didn't have it, we still did it. just a very small, you know, amount. Right. Now it's much more substantial. And then the last positive is to find clever ways to share Jesus. And we've always, even when our kids were small about, you know, reading the Jesus story in clever ways to having the rehab people or the, you know, the ones Missy was working with that have been victims of sexual abuse. and all that crowd. I mean, we'd have that whole crowd

like on Christmas Eve. And we'd tell them to bring, you know, bringing their partner or whatever. And I mean, we did that for years. And you're thinking, good luck, everything's still being here after this is over. I mean, these people were rough. But I thought, you know,

and it was Missy's idea originally, it's a clever way to share Jesus and to share love and things that you have with people that would never think that you would have them in their home and say, let's celebrate, you know, Jesus together. So even when Mia had one of her surgeries or whatever, one time we had all the people she had met and her doctors and we invited them and they filmed it, you know.

It was a clever way to share Jesus, to her medical team, and they all came, you know, and they brought the other kids. So that was my, that was my, that was, the struggles and those were the... So did you have all this written down when you were telling us to missy?

Or this just coming off the top of it? It's one of us. For two hours. I would just write something down. Good or bad, I just took the good and the bad and I wrote them down. These are all the things that came up last night and have two hours.

Have you ever taken notes? During an argument, fellas? No. I took notes. Well, she said, why you keep writing this down? I was like, because I'm going to talk about this in the podcast. And she said, if you talk

about this on the podcast, don't come home. Oh, but then she laughed. She's like, thanks for burying our innermost struggles and secrets. Well, we're going to have, I think we tell the audience says, we're going to have Missy and Lisa on one of the podcasts after the first of year, so we're going to get her

response. Well, listen to this. She said, well, you should invite me. If you're going to read those things, you should invite me. I said, you're welcome to come. And she said, I'll sing a Christmas song. I said, well, come on. But then we had something she had something coming one of her friends lost someone close we didn't need to have her

sing a song when she comes on that's a good idea I think she would would maybe something from the sound of music after hearing that speech Al reminds me of I have a phrase I used I never read it anywhere the phrase is the rarest of commodities for your own planet earth is peace of mind

you know what I'm saying yeah yeah well And after hearing Jay's expound on the issues that have, that he's gone through laboriously. No, I said, I said playfully. Playfully. None of this. So this is tongue and cheek. It is.

It's all tongue and cheek. But you're right. And a lot of people, we could have, I mean, people listening, they would have a hundred more things from family. You know what I'm saying? That comes about as a result of it. We have this argument about that. What is it called? Gander, I forgot what Grant?

Garland. Garland, being over the... Brush. Being over the... Christmas brush. We have that argument every year. I mean, the first couple of years I did, because I was immature and stupid. I'm like, it means something to her.

So guess what? Does it really matter that I see the score? So I play along and throw her a jabber two. She throws me a jabber two. But she wins. She gets to have the thing covering up the game. And all seriousness, showing that, you know, so what?

So, I mean, it's, to me, to keep the big stuff, Jesus, people, you know, love, to keep that, the focus, all this gets blurry. But, you know, I did go through four hours of the sound of music last night. I mean, I'm just saying, that happened. That's Christmas suffering. Let's take one last break.

You're a better man than me. sure so the last thing i was going to say before al gives us some credibility is i shared with them for the first time i shared with humans which what i think we should change we i had a world changing announcement that's not because they just they kept they kept poking the bear and i just come out throwing haymakers at the end because it was like four on one but i said look here's what I don't get. And this kind of came from Karina and the Nicaragua

celebrating the 24th. It gave me the platform to share my idea. I said, we got this all wrong. On New Year's Eve, everybody stays up until midnight. We should have that tradition

for Christmas. And here's why. You know, first of all, it's hard to coordinate the time anyway. You know, it's 5 o'clock somewhere. Yep. Right. So everybody's,

oh, it's the year of the New Year. Well, it didn't happen in Nicaragua. In Russia, they're like, that happened yesterday. It's like when you're watching the thing come down to New York. It's 11 o'clock here, you know. So I think we should all stay up on Christmas Eve, and at midnight, everybody, that's when the celebration, because Christ is born. And since he cannot be harnessed into time, because it says he's the same yesterday, today, and forever. So I think we should count down then.

And here's why. On New Year's Eve, you're starting a new year. Well, you're starting off tired. I mean, you should get a good night's rest. No wonder your resolutions did work. You made it after you had a few adult beverages in the middle of the night. And you just started off with the train wreck. Yeah, but then you're going to be tired on Christmas Day with your logic.

It's going to be the same thing. So I think it should be. be changed. I think you should do the countdown on Christmas Eve going into Christmas Day at the because it's a way bigger thing. Countdown to Jesus. To me. Yeah. I agree with that. The time thing on well they actually agreed with me. Yeah. But then when I was like, look, it begins now. We're changing the world now. And she said, oh, babe. So if you do away with New Year's Eve, do you have a replacement? No, I like, it's completely goes away. It's just New Year's Day. You just, you get, you go home and you get ready, you know, get you a little plan for your New Year's resolution,

then get some sleep. You go to bed early. Now, I am saying this because it is in duck season, and do you know that I've never, I say never, maybe prior to eight years of age, I've never seen a new year in. I'm asleep because it's always in duck season. Probably Christmas is the same way. Well, but I would stay up for the birth of Jesus. You know, in the old days.

If that was the tradition. You stayed up and put the stuff together. That was always the late night stuff. Granted, this is from a duck hunter's perspective. I'm not staying up to midnight. Do you stay up at midnight on New Year's Eve? Not when it has anything to do with birthdays. No, New Year's Eve.

New Year's Eve, it's another year, which is like a birthday. A birthday. A birthday, and I'm like, it's not that much happy because I got another year under my belt. and they say I've got 77 average years to live. So when you hit 74 or 75, I'm four away. I don't count it down. Dad sees 77 as a hard out. That is correct.

But would you do it on? Isn't it great your one-year owner? I said, you know, tell my back about that. But if we made Christmas Jesus Day and we counted it down to the minute that it hit, and we said, we're going to do a service or whatever. You would do it then. I would do it.

Do you know what's ironic about that, Jay's? There's a lot of churches, a lot of different groups that because we don't really know exactly what time of year, when was she just actually born, that they won't even talk about Christmas. I mean, like, they take it the other extreme. They're like, well, we're not going to talk about that because we don't know. So they go out of their way. Well, they take it to not talk about the birth of Jesus, which I've always found just

They take out of context The Where's that verse they get that from? Colossians maybe It's the same attitude Of not saying Merry Christmas Even if you're not a believer It's a joyous time

It's a time for family It's a traditional saying Yes Yeah exactly Enjoy it and just be merry And happy with other human beings Even if you don't agree And I'm one that's not

I've never researched it But I wonder when they started making it Because it's a worldwide thing Yeah So, and they may have a... If the world is changing anything because of an event that they read about, some believe it, some don't think it's a fairy tale. But it looked like to me, if the world was impacted that much,

it has something to say about the person who pulled this off. Well, what's fascinating about the Christmas story that it's in Matthew 1 and 2 and Luke 1 and 2, and you get two different perspectives, is that God and His, infinite wisdom decided that, I mean, because he could have just shown up as a full-grown Jesus at 30 years old and do his ministry. But he wanted to go through the whole thing. Yeah. The baby, the little kid.

I mean, it's incredible. And we've talked about the story where he's 12 years old at the temple because you don't get a lot of early Jesus stuff. But, I mean, that's amazing because he's obeyed his parents. Like, he's God. And he's like, okay, well, I'm sorry. You know, and it's like, I mean, you know, he was a 12-year-old kid, you know, even though he was more because he had all this wisdom and all. That's what fascinates me about the story is that he was born.

Of course, in the Matthew account, Herod, they called him Herod the Great, he was trying to kill him. And so he was trying to kill all babies. Then he killed a bunch of babies, which again, this infanticide has been around forever, because he didn't want to be threatened because he got the word from the Magi that this was the king of the Jews. king of Israel. So he took that as the threat, but he didn't understand the nature of, you know, Jesus as a king, which, you know, we talked about that at his death. You know, Pilot missed all that too. Yeah. So you know God was working, but I mean, Jesus Day is anytime you can bring focus to that, I don't, I think the thinking is there's a couple of references where it says you don't acknowledge special days or worship, but they're missing the point.

completely. Right. I mean, we're not saying the day is how, let's just have a day where the world considers, even if they don't believe that Jesus, son of God, was born? What are you crazy? You're not for that? I mean, who knows what the day is?

I don't think there's anybody that's, no, it was December the 25th. Well, in Russia, that's December 24th. That's what I brought up the thing about. Karina. She didn't know it was December 25th. So it's not about the day. To me, these are people that are missed the forest for the trees. Right.

Well, I like it that there's days that every year that the world, even, and for sure, believers recognize his birth, his death, his resurrection, and even in some sense, his ascension as part of that passionate weekend. So, I mean, that should be, we should celebrate that for sure. I mean, we celebrate it all the time, but, I mean, for sure, there should be a notice of such, life-changing world-changing events is that. This was incredible when he came, and all the stuff surrounding it with the, you know,

all the traditional stuff, and you see all the nativities in front of churches or in front of people's homes, and that's, I think that's awesome. I think the idea, just like we celebrate the birth of our children, we still remember. I mean, I'm having birthday parties as a grandkids now.

I mean, we all get together. You know, it's a, it's a, we celebrate that. We should certainly celebrate when God decided to come down here. And you're honoring that person. Right. It's their special day. and they're special and you're wanting to show them that. I think it's a struggle, and I think we have to say this.

You know, some Christmas holidays are rough for some people. They've lost loved ones, especially with all that's been going on this year. But, you know, look for an opportunity. Those of us who are still alive, I'm telling you, Jesus in your heart is the foundation for new beginnings and a reason not to quit. That's right. So it's painful and as trouble as it's been.

I mean, I've been blessed that, you know, my wife and I, even though we disagree on everything in life, except Jesus, I've said many times, it's enough because we can play about this other stuff. And even last night for a second, I was like, are you really mad? She was like, no. But, you know, it's coming on pretty strong. It got far enough as you asked the question. I did ask the question.

I was like, are you really, man? She was like, no. Well, one good thing about putting Christmas in a spiritual context, not just gifts and Santa and all that stuff, is that when a person like the mayor of L.A., who basically canceled Christmas for L.A., is you can say, you know what, you can't cancel, giving homage to Christ and families being able to celebrate that.

So it's not cancelable, you know. And so that's what we celebrate with this. So I thought interesting days. to get inside the... I'm probably in so much trouble now. It's Christmas, Jace. It's the Christmas spirit. I thought y'all would like that I jotted these things.

I'm shocked that y'all haven't heard half of what I've said. I'm fascinated that you took notes during a playful argument with your wife. It was two hours. I mean, it was playful, but it was playfully long. Can you imagine? Just like, hold on, Tony. I want to write this one down. It was half the length of the sound of music.

I mean, look at the notes. Look how... Because I would draw. a line and say, okay, no, that we backed off that one. All right, so Merry Christmas, Unashamed Nation. We'll talk more about New Year's next time.

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