Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 201 | Jase Gets Held at Gunpoint, a Homeless Man's Last Night on Earth & Isolation Is Not of God

Episode Date: December 30, 2020

Jase has a run-in with the game wardens. Miss Kay gets a homeless man a motel room for his last night on Earth. Phil may be single-handedly keeping the encyclopedia salesmen in business. Jase trades a duck hunt for some fine steaks but finds there's an even bigger reward. Jase and Phil offer a reminder that you don't need a crazy conversion story or wild testimony to share Jesus. And Jase and Al use the disciples to show that God has called us to NOT live an isolated life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So what's new, Jayce? This is our New Year's episode. I can't hear. Oh, you know, you need to put this on it. Well, I'm all shook up. I have to tell you all what happened yesterday.

I hadn't even told Phil. Before y'all start that, I just, I got over in the, with the encyclopedia. Oh, boy. From a humanistic point of view. They have these on this computer. About Christmas. You see what I'm saying? Yeah.

And I just simply wanted to make the point. It's dad's internet. This started, this started, you know, not far over 100 years after the church, the kingdom came. The festival started coming up. Most everybody agreed December 25th, although they've got certain versions. But it's celebrated worldwide. Yeah. And it started a long time ago.

I just simply wanted to make that point. Now, you'd start a rumor about something, but if you start and you read Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, and you start looking at the encyclopedia and what it says about what went down there, something big happened there. That's my only point. Well, some of these churches here, we mentioned this last time.

And not to bring that up in our college history class in a university, is doing injustice to what historical fact is. And like Jay said, and then you've got some churches, hardheaded people, but they don't want to talk about it either. Well, because I couldn't find that verse. We don't know exactly. I couldn't find the verse, but they get it from that.

There's one in Hebrews, because I went back and looked it up, and then there's one in Colossians where it says, they worship, don't let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink or with regard to a religious festival. Yeah. Or a Sabbath day or a new moon celebration. So they're like, we can't worship a day. We're not worshiping the day.

We're worshiping Jesus. It should be every day. That's what I said. But our culture, as bad as our culture seems to emanate evil behavior, especially in Hollywood, if we all pick a day and decide we're going to celebrate. We're billions celebrate. Billions. Billions.

And the people that get offended for San Diego, Merry Christmas. Okay, well, even in there being offensive or offended, they're hearing, they're thinking about what we're talking about. That's right. That's correct. So I have an interesting thought, well, I don't know. Potentially, you might think it's weird.

I mean, the encyclopedia to their credit, in other words, Merry Christmas around the world, you know, country, China, you know, Shong Don, Kik, whatever, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, in Austria, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Brazil, Russia, Spain, Sweden. And then it says United States, Canada, and other English-speaking countries, it's called, they got all their names, but it's called here, Merry Christmas. Okay. If you look at it, you're like... So how old are your encyclopedias?

Do you know what year they were? I'm about probably... These are about seven or eight years behind. Because I'm wondering if, like, everything else, that the left-wingers are going to put all their stuff, you know, you keep getting encyclopedias. At some points, you start getting the propaganda versus. Well, look at the good news.

Phil is single-handedly keeping the actual encyclopedia book going. When's the last time an encyclopedia sales was knocked on your door? Evidently, they're coming to Phil's about every other day. Because every time I see him, he's got a different version of an encyclopedia. But you want to see something. Every time I see a point, pertinent point, I look it up in the encyclopedia. Just see what they had to see about it. I do, too.

I just have it all. It's pretty interesting to it, look, because you get a lot of facts and that people just say, I said, well, let's see now. We're not going to believe the Bible, no. We're not going to believe the encyclopedias. No. I'm like, so what kind of information are you going to believe? Well, I just got to make a point, Phil.

Look, I have all my encyclopedias on a little laptop computer that stored. You're living with a self-proclaimed hoarder, and you're adding additions and volumes, literally, of books. So, I don't know. I just use books instead of the computer where they put the books. All you're doing is looking at the information they put in the book. All you're doing is looking at the information they put in there from. right here. And I have to admit, I'm mid old school. I use my computer a lot, but sometimes I do like when I'm doing Bible study to pull out an old encyclopedia, a concordance and just read out of the

book. I like a book too. Granted, you can pull it up. This makes me feel like on the screen, which I don't have, I don't have access to that. But you're looking at the, it takes you, you're getting it all lined out there. While you're doing that, I'm walking three feet. four feet, and I'm picking up the book where you getting your information from. I bet my speed is better than yours. There's actually a volume button that you can hit. And you don't have to hear that. I was going to read you the last verse.

The Bible someone sent me, I have misplaced. So I'm back to the old one, and I literally don't have the last chapter. The chapter we're studying today. That's the most pathetic Bible. Wait a minute. I'm back in. Every four years, every four years, Al,

I go through that. Four to five years, I'm getting out of the Bibles. I'm trying this leather bound that our man, the Bible, that worked for the Bible people, Bob DeMoss. Oh, he said to you that.

Well, that was nice. Well, somebody sent me one was awesome, but I've, I like it because it's on the same page. All the information is in the same page. Well, but you've noticed the leather-bound ones hold up longer than those over barbackers? Way better. They would be gone.

Well, it is where they're not playing. I guess you long-time listeners know that. But the last verse of the bond of John says, which we're in chapter 21 today, it's going to take us probably a couple sessions. Jesus did. Well, yeah, somebody sent me a deal. They said the study is too slow moving. I'm like, what?

It's the Bible people It took thousands of years I've studied this Almost every day In my whole life And every day I'm like Oh I never noticed that before I found out something new from the podcast

But it says Jesus did many other things as well If every one of them were written down I suppose that even the whole world Would not have room for the books that would be written Which talking about your encyclopedia Fetish You just think of all those books, all those encyclopedias that you have.

And now you have a reference. I mean, Jesus is the most incredible being ever. He trumps all volumes of encyclopedias. That's right. That's quite a thought. And like you said. That's my point. Well, good point.

Why I keep within a 10-year span. Because 10 years, I'm like, take it a leave, 10 years. But I keep basically a current, update on what the world is saying about what the Bible is saying. I'd just like to know what they have to say. Do you think that's why the Hebrew writer said in 138, Jesus Christ, it's the same yesterday, today, and forever? That is correct. That's a, to me, it's top five verses in the Bible. Because it's something to ponder about. What exactly does that mean? But it definitely stops you in your tracks. Yeah. All right. Before I was so encouragingly interrupt,

I was going to tell you, I view this, the weird thought I have for the day, is I view this period as the burial. So hear me out. So we had Christmas, and then we have the resurrection, in my opinion, sometime during the night on December 31st. Because then we have a new year. This is the way I'm looking at it. Because I believe everything should go through Jesus. everything that was one of the greatest things that I learned along my journey you can't miss him he's the hub so every religious thing every day every celebration goes through

Jesus so I applied the gospel so you have the birth we celebrated on the 21st so at some point in between the 25th and you know about now which is we're in the middle of the week he died so we think about that. Well, then you have the burial, so there's some things I need to bury. So I think about that for a couple days. I do this every year. And so then that night,

the night when everybody's popping fireworks, because I go to bed at about nine. But somewhere in between six and nine, I think about, okay, what about this year? And then, you know, when the new year, I'm trying to implement these things. So then the resurrection is sort of the new year. Yeah, it's the new year.

That's the way I look at it. Every year. Is that way? I tend to look at it. It's pretty good. The birth of Jesus that gets him here. I'm thinking of an error coming down out of heaven. We do it for these hieroglyphics, you know,

kind of scratch it out on a piece of paper. So he's here, God in flesh. The reason I hold on to that is because you can't be saved unless you believe that God came in flesh. Remember 1st John? He said, you're anti-Jesus if you don't believe God. came down in flesh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, he said you're the Antichrist, but that's funny that you're in touchy. That's right.

So you have that. Well, then the gospel is a national holiday in these United States of America. Been that way for a long time. Well, they have the Easter. What the Easter, you mean? Yeah. And the birth. That's why Easter.

So you got the birth, there he is. You said, whatever. Well, you have Good Friday. You know what I'm saying? Yep. Good Friday. I agree that they celebrate that. And, and I, but I'm looking at like.

But the reason why, though, Jays, is, as far as I know, is because that's all based off the, basically the Catholic calendar of, you know, with the Ash Wednesday and Lent and all that. So that's, and then Easter's 40 days after that triggers it, which is kind of funny, because evangelicals like us, Protestants, we still celebrate Easter, although it's really not, I mean, your way would actually be better, I think. I like this way. Look, I just do it twice. Passion Week at the end of the year. I have a passion week.

I wish we did it that way. For the new year. And then we, I use Easter as a way to look at how we're doing. Yeah. It's checkpoint. Because you're a quarter-in, you're four months in. We're humans. Right.

We forget. So I kind of, I use it as the whole week. Yeah, because I'm not down on Easter. Don't get me wrong. I love Easter. I love Easter. And I love Tom at the Resurrection, but that's a good way to look at. I'll actually think that's for you hardheads out there who think you can't celebrate a day.

If we decided to change it to the 24th, guess what? I'm in. Well, you mentioned that before because Nicaragua, right? We actually on the 24th got our family together and we had a little special celebration before we ate for Karina. Yeah, because that's her traditional. She said that's when they celebrate. I actually then went over my deal about we need to count down the timeframe to the birth of Christ. well, guess what?

She said, that's what they do in Nicaragua. So my idea that was going to change the world, somebody's already thought about it. Nicaragua way ahead. They pop fireworks and they count it down and they go through the streets. So I get, once again. Because of our family travels and scheduling,

actually this year of the Robertson clan, we celebrated it Christmas Eve. We had all my crew at my house, Christmas Day. The whole week. The next day we were down here. I mean, we had like a whole weekend celebration for Christmas. Yeah. I mean, which is not about it.

We basically celebrated the entire thing by throwing a feast. That's right. Yeah. Well, we did. So what was your three? I had three meal. I did, what did we do the first night? One night we had bone in ribies and fillets.

That was the day before we had the seafood. Okay. Then we had the seafood. Well, and look. Seafood and duck strips, which, you know. don't really have that together fried duck strips duck fingers duck fingers which are in a weird in a weird turn of events this guy caught me i met this guy playing golf nice guy and i had just eaten a bone-in ribby the night before and so this guy i met that i play golf with don't know real

well he said merry he sent merry christmas on christmas i thought that's nice and he also sent a picture of some steaks they were they looked slightly big than the bone and ribbons that I had eaten. And he said, how many of these would it take for me and my brother to come duck hunting with you? And, you know, we get a lot of requests to go duck hunting, and we just can't do it for a variety of reasons.

Something just hit me on that, you know? The possibility of trading the rare, fine cuts of beef to go duck on. It was just the way they looked. Hang on, Jay's just take a break. So guess what? I said, what are you doing tomorrow? I took that man and his brother duck on him. We didn't kill but three ducks, but he was happy because they had duck out of

and they were pretty three. You know, they were beautiful. He said, we're going to mount all three of them. I was like, great. So I think that, and we only went a couple hours for church because we weren't going. Sunday morning, I thought we slept down here a couple hours for us. Sunday morning quick hunt. And I shared Jesus with them, which was worth way more.

than the steaks or the duck and in fact when he when he left he sent me a text he said you know that was phenomenal that we got to hunt my brother because his brother was a duck hunter he he's really not yeah because i mean every time he raised his gun i was like easy easy but he said you know you sharing your faith and i told your story because they kind of asked how all this happened and your conversion and he's like that was worth more than you know steak or duck on. I don't know if I told you he's Vinny's ball.

He's my son-in-law's boss. Well, I wasn't going to the specific sense of who he was. I was keeping him out of the generation. You still don't know who he is. Nobody knows who Benny's boss is. So do you get, uh, well, I don't know.

He said, uh, he said he would, Tuesday was going to call me and we were going to meet up. So. To talk meets. Well, no, I think he'll, he just, I said surprise me. So it's funny. I'm bringing a Yeti ice just, I can tell you.

So our Christmas meal started because I spoke Christmas Eve because we do a Christmas Eve service. And so we didn't really have time to cook. And so ours was good old Johnny's pizza, which I think that's what y'all had too from Christmas Eve. I like Johnny's. I mean, well, you just, I mean, I was busy doing the Lord's words. Oh, wow.

Well, it was a sad thing that happened when the brothers met one of the homeless brothers, Thomas, he didn't have a place to stay. And I couldn't drum up enough cash to stay at it or worse than Ms. Kay said, well, I'll give you enough for a motel for like two nights. So she gives him the money. I baptized him about a year ago. He's been there. Every time we meet, he just comes out of the city streets, and he's there.

and Ms. Kay got him a motel for last night, and he died. At the motel? He died in his sleep. Really? He died in his sleep. Kay told me, she said, Thomas just died, but I got him a motel room. Probably the first good night's sleep. She said, I know some iron.

She sat out of all those homeless people in there, I know he made it. Kay's making a judgment call here. I tell you what. She said, I know he made it because. he was there every time we met once you baptized him and I said miss Kay he's he's in good hands that's funny mom's a prophetess now yeah well you know what I mean you're right that that old boy if y'all hadn't been doing what you're doing he would have never known about any of that he'd have died under a pretty rare that's a nice have a place to sleep because we tried to work it out where

they could have a place to stay but most of them say no that is a nice gesture and I think it's not an accident that you helped you get a place to stay but you had more than that giving him a heavenly home to consider a year ago and then i mean we all know our mom is the best of us and so it doesn't shock me that she did that but i just i think it's a prelude to his heavenly home well you know they were arguing about where he's stuffed you know everybody if he's homeless he don't probably don't have much well he didn't have much but what he had but they're all aware there was a little bit of argument because law enforcement was there and you know they were looking at what happened he just died his sleep and uh he had been feeling kind of poorly but uh but but they they worked out something where

his stuff would go to a certain person up there you know that you him some other they didn't know a lot of people you know what are you going to do with your land your house once you pay his own but you take a homeless person yeah they just have what they have on their back yeah or their shopping or in their pockets or a lot of shopping car well according to jesus you Jesus, he was a homeless person. He said he had no place to lay his head. My point is, you reach out to people and you say, well, you can't. I mean, how are the world you ever going to convert people like that on the street?

I'm just telling you how. We pointed him to Jesus. Yeah. And he said, he said yes. And he died at least in a warm bed. Right. That's Luke 958 says that. I use that often.

Well, I wanted to introduce John 21. Can I do that? Do it today. Did you find it? Have you found it? Well, I had the first chapter. I didn't have the little bit at the end, but I have it now. So, John 21, this is one of my favorite chapters in the whole Bible.

And I just wanted to make a couple points, see what y'all think about this. I'm taking a little bit of a liberty here, but, because it's, you know, here you, if you go back to where this started, Jesus walks up to a bunch of fishermen and says, come follow me, I'll make you fishers of men. So then you fast forward, even though it's three years, it seems like a lifetime. Lots of them. I've always wondered, Jess, why you're there. You're out there, fisherman, you know, rough-looking hands. I've been a commercial fishing, I know.

So you were there too, Jace. But you saw what livelihood we had, and we became fishers of men. But I wondered, you know, if you're sitting out there and he comes to you out there where you, if he had come with me or you, Jace, would have been on hook net number 40, and we're pulling these nets up, dumping the fish out, and we're patching nets,

you know, we're drying them out. Well, that's why I said. Jason's the motor man, meaning he's backing me up, had it down to the same. We were like a,

yeah, you too, were like a machine. But it's pretty interesting that when he said, come follow me and I'll make you fishers of men, and they dropped what they were doing

and did it. They still had their boat so because they would go back and forth. They just, I don't think they were doing it. Well, they're here now. That's the point. Look,

the first point I was going to make was that. Here Jesus dies. And the fact that they're here together after everything, I think, is a positive thing. You know, most people, what happens when bad things happen? What do people tend to do? One of the things they do is isolate. Hit the road. Hit the road.

Hit the road. And I really feel strongly about this principle because there's, I don't know, hundreds of thousands of people who listen to this, when your strategy or your plan is to isolate, that is not from God. Yeah. It's not from God. That's true.

You just think about how many situations. He wants you to work it out. Or even if you don't stay together. Or find community to help you work. You have to have, it's not good for man to be alone. Second chapter of this Bible says that ain't good. You have to find a community wherever you go. you know, in family, in friends, and when you just say, I'm out of here, I'm hitting the road.

So the fact that they were all back to old stomping grounds where they fished and where this all started. And you remember whose idea it was here in John 21? Peter is the one that said, I think I'm going fishing. Because he's the most troubled out of the 11 because he denied Jesus. Well, right. So. Well, and maybe Thomas as well, because you think about what he did. He's already in John.

And he volunteered to go. as far as we know, Thomas wasn't a fisherman. I mean, there were only four that we knew of, but seven go on the fishing trip. Well, who's the, well, he says, right, there's seven, but it says, afterward Jesus appeared, let's see, again, to his disciples, by the sea of Tiberius.

So this is, and I've been to Israel. So you're at a place, though, with that sea of Galilee, where you can see everything. So it's like, you can remember and reflect back when he fed the 5,000, or, you know, other stories where the, you can look where the hogs

ran into the water. You literally can see this thing. It's like a bowl. I mean, you're looking tens of miles, but. Plus, remember the time they were trying to get across and they only made it a part of the way and then Jesus shows up, they're just instantly all the way across the line.

I mean, that happened. So like from a movie, if you were producing a movie here, this is like awesome. We're back where they started. They're all together. Because you could do the, flashbacks of all the stuff that they had seen from the one spot you know where we ate at that restaurant and see a gallery and i saw the opulisus cat down there i mean i'm like you can you can see

all these stories it's pretty amazing it's pretty amazing that the set as as it turns out i'm using that word loosely the set where all these events took place had worldwide consequences. That's why there's so much. A little place over in the middle of Israel, you think, what the world? That's why there's so much. And generational, I mean, I think this goes,

we're thousands of years now talking about everything that happened on this lake. That's why there was, there's so much anxiety there to use a nice word, even today. Hang on, before you read that, let's take a break. I mean, when I was over there, I was like, at any moment, I could go up in smoke. You feel it. You sense it.

Yeah. I mean, people look at you like, I want to hurt you. It's just that it. And then you look at people and, you know, we went to the festival and the celebration of the Passover and all that. I mean, it was, you felt loved. You know, they had us in their homes. We went through the whole process.

It was awesome. But it was also like we were at the, you know, I told you all before about being in the church in Bethlehem on the other side of the wall. I mean, I thought a bomb could go off. It's happened 14 times before here. Yep. It's going to be number 15.

Yeah. It really is a faith test. But then he lists to all the people. So, Al, you're way more of a historical and a scholar than me. So he got Peter, there's Thomas. And the reason I brought up Thomas, because in John 14, when he was like, just, I don't want to throw him under the bus, but when he was just missing the point, he's like, well, how do we know the way?

And, you know, it led to a great statement by Jesus. I am the way. I am the truth, but he was just not getting it. Well, you can tell from his personality from that and that he says, no, I know y'all have seen him, but unless I see him and put my, so he was a doubter. By nature, is his personality. I was going to make the point.

He's a skeptic. That Peter is the denier. I see many, many, many doubters all the time. And Thomas is the doubter, but I'm going to make a point here that I think for people who kind of went about it the way I did and there's a lot of us, This next guy, Nathaniel. And then you have the sons of Zebedee. James and John.

James and John. And the two other disciples. Which I'm just guessing, but one of them had to be Andrew. What's wrong with believing it was the same too? I think the numbers make sense of the two that were, it was seven of them when he made them fishers and men all fishing, wasn't it? In Luke 5? Yeah.

I'm not sure about that. I'm pretty sure there were. That many. All right, well, while you're looking, I want to make this point. Nathaniel, you say, what is Nathaniel known for? I'm kind of tricking y'all here. What do you say? I remember when he got called, he was the one that Jesus said there's no one greater in Israel than this one.

And then he was sitting under a tree. And Jesus said, I saw you when you were sitting under that picture. Yeah. That was when he was called. So I don't know if that. You mentioned, guess what, Al, that is the only time he's mentioned. That's right. There and here.

And here's what I want to make a point about that. His point, his life was a lot like mine. What he found in that encounter with Jesus, because he was thinking about the Old Testament. We went through this an earlier podcast about Jacob's ladder, and then Jesus basically was reflecting to Nathaniel. I knew you were under the fig tree, and I knew what you were thinking. And that guy, you were, with that story you were,

you were reminiscing about that ladder, I'm the ladder. and so that's why I brought that up. When I said Jesus is the hub, Nathaniel learned right then what it took me a couple of years to grow. He is the latter. Everything filters through Jesus. But I wanted to say this. He then said to Nathaniel, you will see greater things than these. And I think this is one of these moments because he's fixed to see a miracle of fish.

He's fixing to see a dead man, eat those fish. he put his faith and trust, and then he's going to see his life go just like Jesus did. But I wanted to say this, Peter and Thomas get all the headlines, just like they do in our modern day churches. All these people, you know, and Phil has quite the story, and even you, Al. But there's a lot of people who seemingly are not mentioned and don't have that great of a testimony. There's something to be said about Nathaniel, who was there in the beginning, who didn't do anything noteworthily bad,

but was there in the end? And I know when Jesus said, you'll see greater things than these, and he said there's none greater than this fellow, I just wanted to say for all those people who follow Jesus, who don't feel like they have a testimony because they don't have some crazy, you know, story or some bad thing that happened.

Or some kind of wow conversion still. Well, right. that somehow, you know, the list, just in this list, speaks to that. Right. You know? That's why I made the point and was, and I don't know, but hoping maybe Andrew was the other, because I made the same point about Andrew. Andrews mentioned three times in John.

First is in John one, when he first says, recognizes Christ as the Messiah, and then he goes and gets Peter and brings him to Jesus. Now, the reason why is because I think Andrew knew his brother, brother knew his capabilities and said, just like Jan did with you, to say, I got to get this guy to Jesus, because he's going to be phenomenal. And he was. The second time you see him is in John 6. Whenever Jesus is looking at this crowd of people and says, we're going to feed these guys some dinner. And then one of them looks at him and says, well, it takes a year, you know, eight months away. They wouldn't even get a bite. And it was Andrew who said, I think he was Ben,

He was. And here's Andrew says, well, you know, here's a kid with five loaves and two fishes, but how far would that go? I think that was a joke. Well, or, or Andrew might have thought, maybe. Like, I think he'd give them too much credit. I think he was like, that'd take eight months later and like, here we go. We just need about 500 more of these kids. I think he said maybe.

And here's the why. So the third time is in John 12. This is really interesting. So this is 10 years before any Gentiles are going to be converted. Jesus is teaching. This is Jews only. And some Greeks show up. And they say, we want to meet Jesus.

Well, whoever they first talked to said, they didn't know what to do. So they took him to Andrew. What do we do about this? Andrew takes the Greeks to Jesus. And I just thought, here's another guy. This guy seems to have a vision of opportunity to me, from the three appearances that we see when he pops up. To your point, he wasn't anything dynamic.

We never read about Andrew in the New Testament. It wasn't writing letters. No, I mean, but at the same time, the man had something going on because he could see it in the future. I mean, he brought those Greeks into the guy. I was just making a point that we're all different. We all have different stories. Those of us who have more drastic conversions get the headlines,

but don't let the evil one make you think that you're not. not just as powerful or force. I love that. I love that point. I mean, you're like, you know, when I was talking. Because it takes all gifts and abilities. I mean, everybody has a place in the kids. You mentioned a pretty good point here.

When I was taking the state guys, look, I said, I haven't been some wild crazy, but it doesn't matter. You know, I mean, I got to Jesus, because they were asking me about it. Now, to prove your point, we studied with a lot of different people, and I noticed something, and it had a little 1st Corinthians one flavor to it there were people who were thinking other words who still think that you have to have some kind of license educated ornation in order to baptize you right and we would we would tell people you know it's it's your baptism not someone else baptize er I said I said it's not an official thing between this between you

and God. It doesn't make any difference who baptized you. So I started telling like some of the brothers, I said, y'all baptized them because I didn't want them to thank Wanao. Phil's the one I heard. He's the one we want. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, let's take a break. Which, that's a great point, Dad, because, you know, Paul said that there were these factions that were forming because this one had been baptized by this one. Yeah, I think you should read it. That's a good verse. That's a great verse. Yeah. In other words, he said, I appeal to you, brothers. He said, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another

so that there may be no divisions among you that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. My brothers, some from Chiloh's household, have informed me that there are quarrels among you. Now, what's what they were quarreling about? What I mean is this. One of you say, I follow Paul. Another says, I follow Apollos.

Another says, I follow Sefa, still another. They had divided these things up. up, it's like looking at the disciples and trying to pick out the big dogs. Right. You know, Peter and Thomas and old Andrews over there, Nathaniel, what happened to him? He's giving you a picture in the Gospels about, don't be this way like there's some of you that has more authority than others. In fact, he went on to say, he said, is Christ divided?

Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul? because they were saying, well, unless the Paul baptized me, he says, it's not official. Well, he let them know pretty quick. He went on to say, look, I didn't come here to baptize, but to preach the gospel. And he clarified that. Well, I never thought I would be dealing with the same type thing. 2,000 years later, people say, well, I want you to do it.

I want you to baptize them. I'm like, hey, one of the brothers are baptized you. Don't worry about who's doing it. It's your baptism. Well, I stopped doing invitations. You know, and they got these things, they'll hold their hand. up and like to make it more official than it really is. I quit doing the invitations.

When I do church events, I'm the same idea. I share Jesus, and I'll tell the pastor to everyone in charge, which they kind of like it better because they like their phraseology and semantics, you know. So it's perfect. But I'm like, I'm going to share Jesus in a non-threatening way. And while you're, you know, bringing them home or however they phrase it, I said, I'm going to be getting in a car and headed to the air. airport so it's actually works out and the reason i did that i'm the exact same way is the first event i did

where like people just came down the aisles you know i felt like we got you know billy graham 2.0 going here you know and the first person i walk up to i fixed to you know like tell them awesome that you're coming to jesus they're like can i have a picture yeah same thing happened to me huh we signed my bible that's right and i was like oh no yeah about two people later Same thing. Can we get a picture? I thought, okay, I'm not doing this because you, based on what you just read. It makes sense because a lot of times of the show and us would come to these things,

which was great because we wanted to hear Jesus. The problem is they don't really realize that's an inappropriate time because they never have been inside of the bills. They need to put Jesus way up here and understand it's between themselves and the Lord Jesus who became flesh, died for them, was bred and raised from the dead. Right. He's the one doing the same. If I had to do it over again when they said, can I have a picture?

I would have said, Jesus. No, can I have a picture? I said, Jesus. He's the image of the invisible God. He's the picture. That's the picture you do. But I thought of that later. I was thinking of that.

I did the same thing for the same reason. And I like it that me being a local guy for many years, I like that the local guy is there. these people that are in this town, that they need to deal with this guy. Because that's where you're going to live. I'm going to be getting on a plane heading home. But I've had many people in the church later.

So how do you know they're going to teach them everything right? I was like, well, how do I know the places where I'm meeting are going to teach everybody right? I was like, you can't. We're not policemen. Get off the policeman. They didn't say everything exactly how I said it. So I'm offended. And so what happens?

Isolation. We already went through that. If that's your plan, that doesn't go with what we're reading here. They're all together, despite all their personalities and mistakes, and they were united in the resurrected Lord. So the story, back to the John 21, is I kind of view it as a full circle, like you were saying, Jay's, it's only been three years. The circle's pretty small, but it feels a lot more.

And so Jesus shows up. They've been fishing all night. So the Luke 5 story, which, by the way, I looked it up, it doesn't give you a number. We know James and John were there. That's all we know. Okay. So whenever you get to Jesus coming up there, it's the same thing that happened before,

except last time it was Jesus just telling him. He got in the boat with Peter and went out. He said, no, put your nets over here. And they're like, Peter's like, Lord, we fished all night. But because you asked me to, I'll do it. So now we get this 2.0 version here. Jesus is once again doing his Jedi Jesus thing because they don't know who he is. It's a man.

They're only 100 yards away. So it's not like they were so far they didn't know it was Jesus. They didn't know who he was. He said, friends, you catching anything? Nope, hadn't caught anything. Well, don't you throw them out on the other side. So they do. And then they get 153, which, as you made the point about the reason John mentioned the number, you know, is because fishermen.

I think it's important. Yeah. I think to, I mean, I hate to say this, but I think this actual story, and some people have stories that mean more of them meant more to me because we know how we are fishermen are. We want to know how many. How many.

I caught a bunch. Yeah. Number. I want to know. And not just that. Think about these people that fish for bass. You say, I call, son, I caught a bull. How big was he?

Ten pounds and six ounces. I mean, down to the ounce. We got to know the size of that fish. I had, look, it's like, yet I have a lot of friends who text me, and I'm like, how many ducks are killed? I get all these wild numbers. Well, yesterday I had a really weird occurrence.

I went, we didn't go duck hunting, and I took, you know, the day out, since I told you, I'm in the burial stage of my thought process. So I went out and went metal detective, because I thought I'll find some stuff that is buried and dig it up. And I'm reliving this cycle this week. Well, I stopped at the first place, and I took my shoes off

and put hip boots on because it was kind of wet. Well, then I left, went on past my plantation house, you know, went to other place. And his shoes are still in the field. It hit me that I left those shoes out in that field. But now it's getting dark.

And I thought, man, it was a little dim road and went out in the field. But anyway, and I'm talking on the phone with the guy who we leased the field from over our property, but he said he saw some ducks pouring in there yesterday. So I'm distracted. So I'm really not watching my surroundings. But I'm not on a main road.

I'm out in a field on just little pieces of roads. With a metal detector in your hand. Well, yeah, but now I'm driving on these back dirt roads. Hang on, Jason. Let's take my last break. So I go to the field. I see my shoes. I'm on the phone.

When I pulled out of this little field dirt road, sirens just surrounding my vehicle. Yeah. And the guy's, I look up. He's got a. It looked like some kind of tactical weapon with a bulletproof vest on. He said, get out of the vehicle. I rolled down my window and said, whatever it was, it wasn't me.

And this guy says, Jase? I said, yep. He said, oh, what are you doing out here? Then it was like, you know, he sat on the rail, oh, that's fine. It's not our guy. It was two game wardens in two trucks, but, I mean, since when are they dressing in tactical gear. He said they had a report, you know, some guy was shooting a gun out there, shooting deer

or something, but he was on, high on drugs or whatever. They thought I was him because he was like, what are you doing that field? That's what he asked. I said, well, I left my shoes out there. Which sounds like a drug addict would say that. That's the craziest answer ever. He's looking at my truck. Well, I had no guns.

I had metal. I said, I was hunting, but I was. And you said, what's that story got to do anything? So we get to talking. And I said, how many ducks have been, because they're checking duck hunter? He's the worst season we've ever seen. Everybody would check, they don't have any ducks.

I'm like, well, these people, all my friends are killing hundreds of them, you know. They got them. He's like, well, they're lying. So you'll be glad to know, Phil. I said, well, don't go here. I pointed across the river. I said, boy, ain't nothing down there. That's right.

Stay away. I can't be in my phone. They're the funny story, but I thought, well, this guy knows because he's checking people every day. But, you know, all my friends, and I was that, well, y'all killing, they just can't say nothing. And they give these generalities.

And I'm like, because I don't press them because we're on the phone. I say. But that's what I want to say. I'm always amazed at that Jay's gets into more things. More things have happened to Jay's not. By times 10. I will say this. He's out in a muddy field

looking for lost coins and the accuser of being the world's worst duck killer. I've never had an altercation with law enforcement. Jason's had a dozen that we've talked about on the podcast. They were game wardens, which I said, I said, so since when, once he recognized me, thank the Lord they recognize it.

It's one of the few times I was glad that I was famous. Yeah. Because this guy meant business. I said since winter, game wardens going around in tactical gear. And you know what he said was interesting? He said, a lot of these people on crystal meth. Oh. He said they, a lot of these people.

Because there's a lot of, and they're armed because there's tough. Well, they're armed, and they're just shooting deer at night. And, you know, they're just, and he's like, man, there's some crazy people out there. I said, tell me about it. You know? So back to our number. I hated I went to an awful rabbit on that. My whole point was the game warden said they ain't been killing them ducks.

Numbers matter. Right. That brings us back. So, so Jesus tells them that. they catch these fish. A couple of different things from before, one is that their nets didn't break. Remember the first miraculous catch,

the net started breaking. Fish are getting out, you know, and to a fisherman, that's, I mean, you're losing money, you know. Oh,

yeah. So the nets didn't break. I've seen it happen thousands of times. I mean, when we used to run the hoop nest, there had just one little hole. Oh, some people wouldn't believe that's a miracle.

But if you had 153. Large fish. Because I think this was, before the time of a hundred pound. Plus, they didn't have nylon 12. Wow, that's what I mean. That's exactly right. I mean, look, I fish, you know,

Caney Lake was a famous Chofi Bass Lake. Well, my friend had strategically, I better say, located tops in various places with his graph. Well, we would go, you know, fish these bashed tournaments. Well, we would use huge lures because they would pay you for the biggest bass. I mean, they got bass in there. I think the biggest one come out of there. like 15 pounds.

And the state record is like 16 or 18, something like that. Well, I kept getting my line broke because I'm using like an 18-inch worm, you know, a four-a-old hook throwing it into a tree top. Well, then a 10-pound bass hit. And what's that? He breaks my line. So I just kept getting bigger reels and bigger line. I just kept going up.

But the bigger the line, the less you'll hit. So we fish that thing. for a month, I did not have one bite. Because they can see my line. But when I did, guess what? I set the hook and just trolled him in. Just like this. He ain't breaking this line.

Was you a big one, Jay? Yeah, he was right under 10 pounds. Yeah, a horse. So that was miraculous. So what happens, the two things happened on the boat. First thing is that John recognizes, even though he doesn't visually recognize Jesus. he says it's the Lord.

Like, it's got to be him, you know, which was interesting because he just made that leap. Only the Lord could do this. You know, we didn't call anything all night. And that says something about humility. Right. Because look, it's like us. When we go hunting and we don't kill anything,

and then somebody comes back and said, oh, you know, I found them. And you're like, yeah, no, I've been down there all day. They ain't there. That's right. I mean, but I think it says something. Of course, they might have spiritually. We've been saying, you know, who is this? Well, you're right, because you know they had to be wondering, who is this guy?

I'm hard-headed. When I make up my mind, we're not going to kill them. Oh, we know how hard-headed you. But we didn't go this morning for that reason. I said, it ain't going to happen. Yeah, take a day out. Now, if somebody would have called last night among the chain, because Jay's like, we're not going, we're not going.

It feels like fine with me because it was cloudy, no win, and we didn't do much yesterday. So we said, let's just take the day off. But if somebody would have called in there and said, no, I think we're going to get them because I have a. secret spot. I wouldn't believe that. It would have taken a lot for me to say, okay.

I don't know. I would have been mad and frustrated, but now do you think it was something spiritual going on, or do you think they were just, I mean, you think there was a hint that they could be. Well, you know, they did it. That's interesting. So I don't know. But he instantly says it's the Lord, which I thought was interesting,

even though visually he's not recognized him. And the second thing that happens is that Peter gets so shook up when he says this, he puts on his outer garment and jumps in the water because you got about a hundred yards swim to get to the bank. And so then they start towing the fish in. And I thought that was interesting because to me, and there's could be a lot of reasons why, but it just seems like to me it's another typical Peter moment where he just kind of goes crazy. I mean, we see it throughout the thing and he jumps in the water and takes it. And then so when they start coming in, then he has to crawl back in the boat, which I thought was kind of funny. It's like a walk of a

shame. You know, it's like, okay, I got to. And it goes with his personality. But when you read verse four, it says they didn't realize it was Jesus. Right. So really, that was a leap of humility, I guess. But look, even when they, you know, they come over there, he's got the little coals, they've got some fish on there, and they sit down with him, and it says,

no one dared to ask who he was. He still didn't look like Jesus. When they're sitting around the circle, it said, no one would ask him who he was. So why would they be questioning that? If he looked like himself in that moment, they wouldn't have had to ask him. So it was really interesting right up until the moment that we'll get into next time, which was, I think the purpose of the whole thing,

which is to get right with Peter. They didn't know who he was. I mean, physically, and yet they knew it was him, which I just found really interesting. Which I think as fishermen, all people who are not fishermen like we are to the degree, they won't realize that part of being a successful fisherman is you want to find people who know where the best spots are. Right.

You know, they call them honey holes and they, and when you realize, you know, we're serving a Lord that's mighty, that's powerful, this loving, that's all knowing. But guess what? He knows everything you thought you knew about the fishing world, which obviously since he created them. But I mean, I just, I just love this story. When he's like, throw it over there.

Yeah, I bet that's going to work. Oh, 153. That's why they go so crazy. That's right. And we've set this forward to impress fishermen. That's what you do. Well, we're out of time. We're going to pick up the last part of this chapter,

which will be our first one, the new year. Happy New Year to every one. Yes. And this will leave a cliffhanger of they were so excited. They were so excited about the catch. It produced this moment, this very moving. Yeah. And it's great because it really set.

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