Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 203 | Phil Robertson's Incredible Gift for Miss Kay, Jase Messes with Missy & Hunting Is Biblical | Ep 203

Episode Date: January 6, 2021

Phil stuns the whole family when he shows up at Miss Kay's birthday party with a gift in hand, and it just gets more shocking from there. Jase messes with Missy after she tells him they aren't exchang...ing gifts. Phil refuses to watch comedy movies, including Jase's pick, "Nacho Libre." Jase explains why being a spokesman for Jesus is nonnegotiable. And Phil lays it down: Hunting for your dinner is biblical, and so is eating meat. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? Well, if for you, ladies and gentlemen, I'm being kind to you this morning. If you want to know what the current status of this particular group is, we have just fulfilled biblical texts to the letter. the information and the text that we fulfilled this morning. The Apostle Paul spoke about this, and so did Peter. At noon the following day, they were approaching the city.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Peter went up on the roof to pray. He became hungry and wanted something to eat. While the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. We have one of the apostles who's followed into a trance. He saw, during the trance, heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to the earth by its four corners. It's a movie screen. It's dropping out of heaven.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Y'all have the little mini movie screens all the time. It didn't drop out of heaven, but God gave you the ability to create that phenomenon. It's kind of like a drive-in movie screen. So in this case, here comes a giant movie screen coming out of the heavens. It contained amazingly all kinds of four-footed animals. Well, add them up. Elephants, giraffes, bears, deer, squirrels, rabbits, four-footers. One, two, three, four. Count them. Four-footed animals, that covers a lot of ground, as well as reptiles of the earth, uh-oh, and birds of the air. Well, now we're talking ducks, geese, doves, quail, pheasants, and a variety woodcocks, and a variety geese. Words of the air. It's on the movie screen. What the world? Peter's looking.
Starting point is 00:02:06 A Jew of Jew who has been under strict food laws for 1,500 years. We're better than these Gentiles because we have food laws and they don't. That bunch will eat anything. Against the law, the law of Moses, we can't break the code. We have to be careful of what we eat. You can't eat meat. You can't eat meat. A voice from heaven after Peter saw the full-footed animals, reptiles of the earth and birds of...
Starting point is 00:02:38 A voice from heaven said, here's when we come in. Kill and eat. Get up. So last night we slept, then we got up and we killed. Not our fellow man. Never. We got up and we killed full-footed animals. in this case, birds of the air.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Eat, sleep, go kill some ducks. Repeat that. Eat, sleep, go kill some ducks. fulfill the text. Eat, sleep, kill the ducks. We do it yesterday. We did it yesterday. The day before yesterday, we did it today.
Starting point is 00:03:20 We're fresh out. They were still coming in. They actually didn't move. They didn't move until up in the morning. We're waiting for the birds. of the air to appear like they did coming out of the skies on a movie screen 2,000 years ago, and we looked up and said, it's a replay of the movie, Peter Saul. But that'd be like heavenly geographic?
Starting point is 00:03:43 You know how they have national geographic? They'll be heavenly geographic. So when all the naysayers, they say, oh, you shouldn't eat meat, you shouldn't hurt the poor little creatures? You say, non-Christians, just fallacy, something they made up. But we do have two. We don't eat them all. But they say to us, our truth says you can't kill animals. I said, how long has your truth been around?
Starting point is 00:04:06 Well, I was in college four years ago, and my professor told me that we're not allowed to kill birds of the air. I'm like, so you're writing. I think they're doing that because they believe they're eating themselves because they say we're all animals. That's right. That's how confused they are. So their truth is based on something that some college professor said six years ago. Our truth dates back 2,000 years ago. And you go back further than that with the food laws,
Starting point is 00:04:34 you say it had been around since 1,500 years before Jesus showed up is when the law was given with the food laws in that. Catfish, that's out. Can't eat them. Now they're in. Birds are they. Everybody particular about all what they eat, what they did. It makes them look better if they say, well, if I don't eat me,
Starting point is 00:04:56 that I'm a better person than you are but the Bible says kill them and eat them so we eat this week we've had baked ducks we've had duck and dressing we've had duck gumbo we have had duck wraps cream cheese in the middle jalapenia peppers wrap them nice the duck strips that you fried the duck tenders yeah we strip the breasts we we we punch it and we what you call We tenderize it. Then we cut it up in three strips. Soak it in buttermilk overnight. When you get up the next morning,
Starting point is 00:05:35 drain the buttermilk off. Get you an egg wash. All you need a little salt and black pepper on them. Get you an egg wash. Woo-bo-whu-whu-whu-poo. Three eggs. You whip that, you put them from the buttermilk into the egg wash. Roll them around.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Dump a lot of flour on it. Roll them. Have your peanut all on. You fry them quick. About a minute. About a minute you come out of gold. brown you come out have a pretty hot fire and when people start eating them they can't they're feeling of them they can't get all of them i'm just saying we're fulfilling the text it's biblical you say
Starting point is 00:06:10 was there at any time during the course of arising killing birds and eating them was there any profanity coming out of anybody in the blind that'd be negative you said was there anybody got irate and mad and jealous and hatred and no no we had a little bit of mad yesterday but uh you y'all got into it before i know you and sigh had gotten to hang we got into one yesterday it wasn't mad it was just an argument i didn't want to go where we went and jay this is what i this is hindsight's 2020 jay told phil and sigh that i wanted to go here i'm presuming and he told the opposite opposite, he told them I wanted to go and he told me they wanted to go. The bottom line is he wanted to go there.
Starting point is 00:07:02 So when he left the blind, Phil said, I don't know why you picked this spot. I said, I didn't want to go here. I said, I thought you did. Phil said, I didn't want to go here. And he didn't just blatant lie. He just said, he just manipulated the conversation. So we concluded that I know who wanted to come here, the man that's not into the blind. But that was the end of the argument, what led up to that.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Jason describing the duck blind, the duck hunting crew when they end up at the spot that's not as good as they thought it was. We should have hunted over here, but we didn't. So you have that kind of banner going on. But it's not a bad way because if you got them over there three times in a row, pretty good bets you may get them again. So you're – When direction. You're strategizing where you're going to get up and go to. Get up.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Get up. So we all get up. arise kill and eat well it's up to us to decide yeah when god made ducks he put some kind of GPS system in them they fly from the canadian prayers 1,000 miles they never get lost and you see them coming at an incredible attitude in the air he's a jet he lights on the water and he can dive and now he's a submarine yeah and he's a boat for a while just going right on top of the water he's whoop, let's go under the water. They all go down at 30 feet deep, some of them, do a little eating,
Starting point is 00:08:23 come back up, look around. You say, a jet, a boat, and a submarine, one little feathered creature, he's doing 60, 70 miles an hour and no feathers are blowing off of it. And people who don't eat them, they feel sorry for them. I'm like, you're underestimating a wild duck. I mean, he does the things you're talking about. But the reason the argument happened is because he compared it to a jet.
Starting point is 00:08:46 You know that planes just like they, They got this from ducks, they light into the wind. I was on one flight that they tried to light into a crosswind, and it took us three times to land. And we were doing what I would call pie plating, which is horrible. If you throw a pie plate into the wind and watch it, that's what we were doing every time we tried to land.
Starting point is 00:09:10 So it was a good faith test. So what I was going to say is, if the wind is in your face, the ducks are going to come in from behind. you and it's not easy for them to light in your decoys. They do it? They're harder to harvest. So when you see me hunting a timber hole on a cloudy day with the wind in my face,
Starting point is 00:09:31 that was not my idea. And I was fine. Well, I thought they would want it to be comfortable because it was supposed to rain. Because that's what Jay was telling me. He said, well, it's supposed to rain and that's the most comfortable blind we got. I said, here was my words. Do you want to kill Dougs or do you want to be comfortable? and he said they want to be comfortable.
Starting point is 00:09:49 So we got in the blind, we hunted, guess what? We didn't shoot as many ducks as we've been shooting. And then while Jay was gone, they started blaming me. I said, wait a minute, y'all are the ones over 70 that wanted to be comfortable. It was like, what's I got to do with anything? I was told that's why we're here. So then when Jay- Back to the point of the program.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Okay. The point of the program. I'm just still better about that. Yeah, the point of the program is simple. out of all the hundreds of thousands if not millions of metric tons of turkeys
Starting point is 00:10:26 chickens fowl that you can go to the supermarket they're all nice and arranged on packages you know you can get the thighs of chicken or you can get the wings that's a big thing eat the chicken wing a lot of chicken the number one consumed bird
Starting point is 00:10:44 on planet earth is duck. More than chicken? Duck, way more than chicken. You sure about that? Number one, I've researched it. So you look, you say, Asia, you say, they go with the ducks, go with the ducks, all these countries, and America too.
Starting point is 00:11:00 But you say, worldwide, the duck is number one. So when somebody comes along, you know, someone comes along and says, you know, why do y'all get them? We said, food stuff. Free-ranging birds, free-ranging birds, look, no chemicals, no antibiotics, none of that stuff, free-ranging. The deer we eat, free rangers. There's no manipulation with all kinds of concoctions that they give them and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Except for the farm-raised ones. So when people say, well, you're like, so other than we eat a lot of veggies, well, I love you, the vegans, we love them. We eat a lot of vegetables. But we also have wild birds and wild game. with that. Well, if you're going to eat birds and game, I think taking them out of nature. That's the best way to go. The only way to roll. That's why I'm 74 years and old, and I don't have an ache or a pain at this particular juncture in my life. You say, on any pharmaceuticals,
Starting point is 00:12:01 I said, nope, wild game, wild game, wild birds. But you do take the omega X-L. Omega X-L? Not a pharmaceutical. That's not a pharmaceutical. That's not a pharmaceutical. It's a nutraceutical. Some kind of muscles. That's muscle oil. That's muslin water. The pristine waters. Muscle all.
Starting point is 00:12:19 So where are we at in the text? Well, let's take a break and we'll come back to that. We are in John 21. By the way, Al's out of town. And so I'm filling in. And you know, every time I do, I get a little bit of negativity on the, there's a unashamed Facebook page. I think I've told you all this, right?
Starting point is 00:12:42 We didn't start it. I didn't know that. I think it's like a fan page. Oh, somebody else? Yeah, so they started it. Is that legal? Yeah, I think it's legal. It's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:12:50 It's a good community. Do any of them curse us? No, they don't. They offer up prayers on there. They're saying that somebody started the unashamed. What does it go? It's just, it's a Facebook page, a group of a lot of the people that listen to the show. Well, what about a guy like me who's never owned a cell phone?
Starting point is 00:13:09 How would I get in contact with what you thought about? I'll sit down with you and I'll show it to you on my phone. So I'll be able to see what you're talking about. You'll be able to see it. Yeah, I know nothing about it. Yeah, I'll show it to you. What am I missing, by the way, by not knowing anything about the Facebook? Well, you're missing the unashamed.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Yeah, the fan page. What's it called? Fan page. I don't know if it's a fan. It's just a group, but they get on there. It's actually pretty cool. They've developed kind of this online community of people. It's probably, I don't know, 20,000 people now. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:13:37 Well, which brings me to a little point. You can, we're in John. It's Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. They all start out with the birth of Jesus Christ. For instance, you take Luke, we're in the back of John. If you take Luke, Luke, you turn one page, two page, the boy Jesus. Let's see, the birth of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:14:02 That's Luke chapter 2. Caesar Augustus was on the throne, like Daniel said in Daniel chapter 2, the kingdom of iron. And here comes Jesus. So the Romans are ruling. Jesus shows up. They teach about the birth of Jesus, and they make it very plain that you had better believe that, that Jesus was God and flesh.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Luke ends it up by saying, if you turn over to Luke, chapter 22, 22, 23, 24, Jesus is death, burial, resurrection, according to Matthew, according to Luke Mark, according to Luke and now you're in John
Starting point is 00:14:46 and John is fixing to say, well, what happened after Jesus died was buried and raised from the dead? John's going to say he flew away. He flew away. And you can read about that in Acts 1 because Luke wrote the Book of Acts.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I think we've decided to go to Acts after John. Are we making that announcement? I think that's great. I think it's official. Wait a minute. I just did. Should we get Al's input or since he's not here? No, Al wanted to.
Starting point is 00:15:17 I think Al's going to. Now, he sent that to me in the nose. See, here's what I figured. Well, is this the only man that's over you as part of the program that could drop the axe on that? Or is it, or when you say, I think we go over the book of acts and you say, what about it there? Phil? I'm like, I'm good. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I mean, we have the good thing about what we do here, talking about this, is we've got the greatest material in the universe. Oh. So it makes us look pretty good. By the way, the first sentence in the book of Acts, in my former book, Theophilus, he's talking about the guy that was there, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do
Starting point is 00:15:57 and to teach until the day he was taken up to heaven. Well, we're not there yet. I know. But I'm just saying. Well, that goes to what you just said about Luke. Sure. So, which is a good point. I'm fine with going.
Starting point is 00:16:10 going through Acts, which Phil quoted the Arise, Kill and Eate, that's Acts chapter 10. I mean, there's some good stuff in there. But what I was telling Al when he brought this up, because he, I want to, since Al's not here, I can say this. And maybe he won't know that I'm saying this. But I noticed in Al's preaching, because Al, he simulcasted what he was preaching with what we were doing on the podcast. So I'm like, I get it now. He's getting all his sermon ideas from this brain trusting.
Starting point is 00:16:47 That makes me feel afraid. It is scary. But he basically minus the nonsense. I'm a C plus man. You've gone to high school. You didn't go to college. I went, but I couldn't pass. I had two years.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I'm a C plus man. But you went to the seminary. I did go to, I got a two-year degree at a seminary, which was, but. I did have an owl with me. I mean, look, we would drive, and he would, like, had his little cards for me. It was literally like I was 10, and he was the father figure. Because he just had no problem, but I had, I just, I had trouble, because I was just didn't, I didn't like the people I was with.
Starting point is 00:17:30 They tended to be nerdy. I loved them. Don't give it wrong. But nobody was like me as far as an outdoors person, a hunter or a fisherman. So the second question is why, because they keep asking this, why does Al and Jeff call me dad and you and Willie call me Phil? I don't have a good answer for that. I don't either. You put me on the spot here.
Starting point is 00:17:56 My name is Phil. So if Jay says, Phil, here's what you got to remember. Which one do you prefer? It's no preference. Neither way. No preference. So I figured there was no preference. So it's kind of like, no preference.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I've never had any stress about getting feel a birthday present because how do you feel about birthday presents? Four or five days ago for the first time in 50 years, I went shopping. Yeah, I think we, did we tell our viewers that? I haven't been in a store in six years, but did we tell our viewers that you did that or no? Do what? Did we tell, have we told people that? I don't know. You need to tell this story.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Now, look, you don't care about getting a gift. Hold on. Let's stop the present. I just never. You hadn't heard this? I never thought about it. Oh, this was hilarious. So we have a birthday part.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Mom's birthday is four or five days for. December 21st. So we had a party for at Al's. And I mean, it was a lot of people, you know, despite the coronavirus. We said to heck with it because Kate, she just said, If I die of the coronavirus, y'all don't shed a tear over that fact. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Because she's like, I cannot live. She tried for a while. She just, she would rather die than not be sociable. So you know what? I think it's America and everybody's got a free spirit. So, and she means he just stays with family. I don't know what she does. She understands the resurrection of the dead, she told me.
Starting point is 00:19:29 And she's not going out, you know, shopping or going into place, but she likes to get together with her family. And she's like, that's what I'm going to do. And if I die from that, so be it. So once she said that to me, I was like, so be it. So we had our family there. Y'all have all had corona anyways at this moment. Well, Kay hasn't.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I mean, but all the most of the family has. She's been around and she hasn't got it. So I don't know. So we're there and Al comes in and says, we got everybody but Phil. And she's like, well, we don't want him to ruin it anyway. So she made some comment like that. Well, as soon as she said that Phil walked in, he heard her say that.
Starting point is 00:20:05 He's like, she was stunned. You can see it on her face. He's like, what are you doing here? And then Phil get, I didn't know this part. I'd seen him before outside. I was like, what are you doing here? I literally did not know why he was there, even though it was Kay's birthday. I usually miss the birthday parties.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah, because Phil's not a party. I'm shocked. I'm like, this is shocking me even. Yeah, he comes in. So he walks in and he has a bag, like a, I know what the jewelry bag looks. looks like. Oh. Is he actually fixing to give her?
Starting point is 00:20:41 And he gave it to her. And he said, here you go. And she's like, what, I mean, what are you doing? Because this is the first time in 50 years, right? First time. And so she opened it up and it was the saints. What of those called? The saint's symbol, floralee?
Starting point is 00:20:58 The Florida Lee. Yeah. Is it Florida Lee or Florale? I think it's the Florida. Florelli? Florida. Yeah. Floor de Lee.
Starting point is 00:21:06 That was called. back there, thanks. He didn't trust me to call it. So the St. Semmel and it was a necklace. It was really nice. I know you paid, it wasn't cheap. I mean, it looked good. It had to be something, somebody said, you don't know even know what to get her.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I said, I have no idea. Well, you walked in and tell them what you said. You said there Phil walked into the jewelry story. We heard this later. And tell, yeah, he went away. Wait, wait, wait. This is the, was this Trinity? The, uh, Shane wears? Phil, Phil went in there with Phyllis. I think his
Starting point is 00:21:37 his new daughter did a little nudging. But he goes in there and tell them what you told the jeweler. I said it has to be, I need some jewelry. It has to be something about flowers. Yeah. Or turtles. Flowers are turtles. There was one other one.
Starting point is 00:21:57 The football. Yeah, football. I said it has to be about flowers. Football are turtles. And the guys looking at me, you know, the jewelry man. He's looking at it. he said, well, let's see here, Mr. They, they, they, I went in there.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I said, they said, well, he's not going to come if you're open for business. He's not going to walk in there. So you go out to, when you're closed, he, that's when, he'll bring, you. That's when he went in when they were closed. They opened up just for you. So you make some money, but you got to stay open when there's no one in there, but, but him. So, they told me, they said, I said, I'm not going about going in some jewelry store. You think I'm crazy?
Starting point is 00:22:37 And I said, I haven't been in a store in about six, six, seven years of any kind. So the guy I agreed to it. And Trinity, I think, was the name of it. Trinity Jewel. It's a local jewelry store. But anyway. I know the owner very well. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And he called me. I did not. I did hear you that you went to the jewelry store now that I think of it. He called and told me. You just forgot. Well, that's what he did. So anyway, I don't know. Well, now we've got to charge him for mentioning their.
Starting point is 00:23:07 name on the back. We shocked Miss Kay because she hadn't received the gift. She was shocked. There's so many gifts going from person to person and all that.
Starting point is 00:23:16 I just thought it was a woman's thing. You know what I'm saying? I just thought it was women. So what is she? What's her reaction when you gave her? She was shocked. She was.
Starting point is 00:23:27 I thought she basically cried. Yeah. She just. She was so like tears of joy shocked. Uh, uh, uh, I. Which it's hard to make K.
Starting point is 00:23:37 speechless, especially at this stage of her life. First of all, I was at a birthday party, and second, I brought gifts. Brought gifts. That's interesting. Never done that before. And it was nice. I mean, it wasn't like, you went all out. This wasn't cheap, cheapo.
Starting point is 00:23:52 You know, I said, whatever it costs me. I think you're pretty well, good to go till the grave. Yeah, that'd hold me. You think that was the last one? Well, if you wait 50 years to give the first one, I don't know. if her heart could take any more, you know, because she was so shocked. But it was kind of a beautiful way. By the way, Dan, the eunuch, he's the one that said, he calls me dad sometime.
Starting point is 00:24:18 You know, he said, make sure it's either the turtles or the flowers. Yeah. You know. So even though you started this off talking about we eat all these crawlers or, you know, things with feet and. winged animals. Kay does have a fetish for pet turtles. So.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Well, let's take a lot of little emblems about turtles. Let's take a quick break. By the way, Cole just put on our screen up here, we did film that, so we actually, we have Kay's reaction on film. Somebody found that?
Starting point is 00:24:58 There was a film crew. I didn't see the film crew. You got to go to blazeTV.com slash fill, and you can get the, I think it's, is it on the... Are you sure somebody found it? Well, he just put it on the screen. found it because I was there I never saw a cameraman you do you saw me no we didn't film at the party
Starting point is 00:25:17 oh people with cell phones we filmed Phil at the jewelry store oh they so it's on the is it on the in the woods right they told me they were going to film it but yeah it's not up but it's not up but it's not up sometimes saying we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna talk to miss k about it stuff and put episode together oh sweet yeah yeah this voice we need a name for call The voice from... I just thought about it. He's going to be like that sidekick guy. We had to clarify, because people, since we're talking about God,
Starting point is 00:25:47 we don't know God, we didn't want to give the impression that that's the voice of God. No, it's not the voice of God. By the way, by the way, just you say, so what's the point of all this? That's a very good question at this stage. The point is like this. It's by grace you've been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves. It's the gift of God. So if you look at the gift God has given his people,
Starting point is 00:26:14 his grace, mercy extended towards us because of our faith in Jesus. If you look at it, you say, you know what? We need to be, I thought to myself, I had given a gift. I need to give her a gift. That was a good thought, Phil. Yeah, yeah. And then Dan said, make sure it's about turtles or, you know, the whatever, whatever the three things were.
Starting point is 00:26:38 He's the one that said that to me. Football, turtles, and flowers. Yeah, football, turtles, and flowers. But Dan said that because he's the one that does a lot of shopping on behalf of Ms. Kay. He's Ms. Kay's a butler. So you see what I'm saying? So you brought it an expert. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:54 He was the one saying. Well, that's impressive. I said, what was she like, Dan? I mean, you shop for her all the time. And she said, well, I tell you what. And then he brought up, you know, the turtles and the flowers and whatnot. You meant to tell you my wife's response? Did she cry to her?
Starting point is 00:27:08 and she said, oh, she didn't cry. She said, there is a God. Well, it is pretty incredible to think about the power, the power of progressive sanctification that over a period of time, how God can change a person, you are not the same man. That is one thing. That is right. I would have lost money if a bet would have come up.
Starting point is 00:27:29 I would have never thought that you would have done that. Too much water under the bridge. Well, I think it's cool, too. I mean, what do you know? Maybe the younger married people, all family members here and every one of them, we're all Christians, a whole bunch. I mean, down to the great grandkids, all the way. But I don't know how that impacted them, but they seemed to be moved back.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Yeah. But I just... Most people... I was right there in the group and everybody got quiet because they said, you know, in Warren's field, they planned that. Al and then was playing tricks on her. Well, she was over here talking to somebody else and said, well, you know, probably we'd be better off with Adam tonight, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:06 because he doesn't like to come to get... I walked in and she screamed. Yeah. He couldn't ask for a better setup. See, most people, look, when I, I was about five years in a marriage, we had no money. You know, it was, we were just scraping by. And so one year for Christmas, five years in, I say, what you want for Christmas? And she said, look, money's tight.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Let's just not get each other anything. I was like, all right, no, that. Okay. That's good thinking. I mean, that's a way to be sacrificial. So when Christmas Day hit, well, she handed me a present. Oh, yeah. So I opened to that.
Starting point is 00:28:45 I thought, I thought, what happened to this? She's like, well, I couldn't help it. Well, I didn't have a present. I mean, you tell me. You got church, where's mine? Oh, guess what happened? She got mad? Tears.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Oh, yeah. Tears, then, I wouldn't say mad, but hurt, frustrated. He was hurt. So look, it's been, now we're here. here in 30 years now. This year, I said, what do you want for Christmas? The first time in 25 years since then, she
Starting point is 00:29:14 said, let's not get each other anything. I said, great. Okay, you know, we're living in two different places. It's chaotic, you know, what do we need anyway? Fine. Well, I went to the same jewelry store. I acted like that conversation never happened.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Because I've learned. I'm getting a present. I bought her a little not not something elaborate but a little simple cross necklace a few little diamonds in there and uh so i wrapped it up and i when it came christmas day of course she handed me a present i was like yeah that's what i thought you know she got me a thermos you got her thermos bottle she did which is good
Starting point is 00:30:00 yeah she didn't she didn't she didn't i didn't bring up but she didn't bust the bank over no but we said we weren't going to get each other but you knew this time so I said well I didn't you know I didn't get you anything she's like that's fine but I could tell from the tone and so I waited a couple hours let it just marinate it was simmering and I said oh yeah I did forget
Starting point is 00:30:22 I did pick you up one little thing and I had taken all like the bag away it was just a little box she's like where did you get this box that was her first question she popped that thing over it was like what oh look tearsy now we have tears of joy this is what you call this is jace messing with missing this is how you play the get well i'm just i'm saying now that you bought a gift i'm giving you you're in now yeah i think yeah i was just kidding when i said you're probably good for a while i just think once they've tasted a little bit of the glory
Starting point is 00:31:00 it's the thought that matters jay not so little new brain yeah look i'll tell you a funny story says we're completely off the rails here are we going to get to john and all let me just tell this one story you know phil because there's some things about his character he won't do and that's one he doesn't celebrate birthdays he won't get gifts and all that he won't watch comedy movies even at the rated pg we went to a uh duck hunting trip in mississippi and i brought a couple movies because they said their tv didn't work So I had a Nacho Libre I said Phil
Starting point is 00:31:35 You're gonna love this Phil I said no I ain't watching that I was like Well just you don't even know what it is He's like no He just looked at the cover He said We're not watching that
Starting point is 00:31:43 I like but there's nothing else to watch He would not let us watch it You didn't say it I was like no he would He would not watch I thought What kind of man Just says
Starting point is 00:31:53 I can get If you watch the first minute And say it's not working for me He said Is it a comedy I said I ain't want so I had to throw that in there
Starting point is 00:32:05 I don't even remember that I was actually upset about it I was like Phil you will laugh once you embrace that this is a dumb movie but you're just watching it for humor I said you will like it
Starting point is 00:32:20 it's clean would you try it one time let it look we did not a cuss word in the movie it's rated PG I don't know if he would like it I don't know I just wanted to see
Starting point is 00:32:30 it was an experiment I mean I love it But that's worth that line when I said, Hey, that might be a... That'd be a good in the woods episode. We film Phil watching nacho league. You're welcome. Cole, you got that?
Starting point is 00:32:43 I've got $100 that he never tracks a smile. You're close. And at the end of the show, we can say on another movie I like, why, Phil, you're an oak. He knows me pretty well. That was good. Let's take a quick break, Phil, and then we can get in this. Let's talk about the one we all love.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Amen. I don't know where we're at. We're in John 21. We're actually the last few verses. Yeah, I mean, we got, what, 10 verses left? Well, he has the conversation with Peter because Peter denied him three times. We talked about that, and he said, feed my limbs.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I was going to make the point last podcast when we talked about that because he had just said in John 20 in verse 21, said peace be with you as the father has sent me i am sending you so he tells peter feed my lambs feed my sheep i mean they had to go through the grace and the transformation he mentions his death i was going to make the point that i believe every person who is capable of understanding jesus is then qualified to be sent out i think god uses people to make Jesus known. Now, how we go about doing it is not my concern.
Starting point is 00:34:12 I think we all have different avenues, different gifts, different talents. Yeah. But to me, this not being a spokesman for Jesus, which is the name of this, we're unashamed, is non-negotiable. So I think this trickles down. So when you read the Great Commission,
Starting point is 00:34:33 what I'm that, Matthew 28. Now, I know he was speaking, to these men. But I think that charge went to all of us. Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son, the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I command of you, and surely I'm with you to the very end of the age.
Starting point is 00:34:54 He told, at Mark's account, he said, go preach the good news to all creation. Whoever believes in his baptize will be saved. So I just think that's what we do. When Peter came to the end of his life, before he did that 30 years earlier roughly
Starting point is 00:35:10 between what John wrote and what Peter wrote in his letters first and second Peter watch Jesus told him, feed my sheep Peter I tell you the truth this is John 21 about verse what is it
Starting point is 00:35:28 18 or 19 he said when you were younger I tell you the truth verse 18 When you were younger, you dressed yourself. He's talking to Peter and went where you wanted. But when you are old, you will stretch out your hands and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Now watch. Jesus said this to indicate what kind of death by which Peter would glorify God. Then he said to him, follow me. Now watch. Peter 30 years later wrote in 1 Peter chapter, I mean in 2nd Peter, 2 peter chapter 1 he said i'll always remind you in verse 12 of these qualities godliness self-control perseverance goodness knowledge he wanted to remind me that he said i think it right verse uh what 19 15 i think it is right to refresh your memory as long as i live in the tent of this body because i know
Starting point is 00:36:30 that i will soon put it aside his body now just think about how he viewed physical death. As our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me, he went back 30 years earlier when Jesus said, when you were younger, you dressed yourself and went where you wanted to go.
Starting point is 00:36:49 But Peter, when you're old, some other people are going to dress you and take you where you don't want to go. They're going to kill you, son. You know what I think? It's interesting. Just think about that. And him talking about leaving, he ends
Starting point is 00:37:01 it up by saying, I will make every effort to see that after my departure He was just viewing physical death, not like most people wring their hands. Oh, we lost to our uncle or our dad. He didn't view it that way at all. As a child of the resurrection, Peter said, after my departure, you'll always be to remember these things.
Starting point is 00:37:22 He said, I'm fixing to leave my tent. The tent stays, but my soul and spirit goes on. You know what's funny about this? Pretty cool. You know what's funny about that, Phil? Because 19 in John 21 says, Jesus said this to indicate the kind of death which Peter would glorify God, which you referred to.
Starting point is 00:37:39 But I think this is, I was going to say fine, but this is kind of cool. He then says to him, follow me. Well, he's fixed and a leave, so he wasn't talking about that following me. That's right. He was meaning, which was the original point. You follow me in the way you live your life until death.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And the way you die. Yeah. And the way you die. And the way you die. Make it a good death. Because that was going to glorify God the way he would die. Look at the martyrs. What did they say?
Starting point is 00:38:11 How did they get rid of old Peter? They say, history says that he was crucified upside down by his own request because he didn't feel worthy to be crucified and it looked like Jesus. Oh, you're talking about a guy. Whether it's a little circle. Whatever. But we know that he died of martyr's death because Jesus said he did. So you can write it down.
Starting point is 00:38:35 So I tend to believe that's exactly what happened. Yeah, Peter's a poster child for kind of the whole message of this podcast. I mean, this is a guy who was a coward who was very ashamed. Yeah, very ashamed to be associated with Jesus. I don't even know him. Don't even know him. Three times denied him. And then that guy was one of the most impactful apostles of all.
Starting point is 00:38:58 So all the ladies and gentlemen who are listening to this when you say, well, I feel I've done some things. were so you said so I don't I believe if Jesus Christ could overlook Peter by denying him and hitting the road when it came time push come to shove when he's going to be crucified and if he still was merciful toward him and brought him back in and Peter took off he ended up writing two books in the Bible you just think about it man I want to say what a turnaround we had a guest in the duck blind today I don't know who he's where he's from but I took things that he does that he does I'm like, what do you do for living? He's like, well, I drive a crop duster.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Well, Phil. Yeah, but he said crop duster. Yeah. So I thought, okay, that's what he's like, I sprayed this field that we're hunting. I was like, oh, you know, Phil. He's like, yeah. And Phil said something about, well, boy, you better get in on the resurrection doing that, you know, which is not something I would have said, but I'm glad he broke the ice because I'm sure he's over his fear, but it was good.
Starting point is 00:40:03 but then you know you look for clever ways to bring Jesus back up because we had wood ducks this morning we had green wing teal and we have mallards well he was asking us about how we eat them or whatever and I was like well here's the ranking system you have green winged teal as far as eating taste you have wood ducks then you have everything else and he's like well what are we going to do with the mallards
Starting point is 00:40:26 I said feeding the homeless would be a good idea I was like, and I'm not saying that that's a bad thing because Jesus was homeless while he was on the earth, which he laughed, he chuckled. But I just thought between Phil said and the resurrection and I introduced Jesus there, then we ended up having a Jesus conversation. Mary brought up how he was raised in church,
Starting point is 00:40:48 and all of a sudden he was telling his story. None of that would have happened if you didn't find a creative way to introduce Jesus to the conversation in the duck line. And that's my point, because people say, well, it's not my talent to speak up about Jesus. And I disagree. I think the reason people who don't speak up about Jesus
Starting point is 00:41:10 is because they're uncomfortable or embarrassed at their workplace or in the car. And I just think... Afraid of the blowback. It's just like Peter, look. Now, he was fearful for his life, so he denied it. But look, when I go back to high school, it was way tougher for me. because I knew if I brought it up, they were just going to be like piranha.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Because there was no doubt they were just into everything evil. And I would take a swallow and say, you know what, I'm not going to sit here and do this. Because it was really the only defense that worked. You start talking about Jesus in a high school setting, they think you're crazy. I mean, they're scared of you then. Oh, you're some kind of religious nut.
Starting point is 00:41:57 because I would do it passionately. I say, yeah, I'm the religious nut who's going to live forever. You'll be the wayward idiot. I'd say stuff like that. Let's take a quick break. In love. Yeah, in love.
Starting point is 00:42:14 But you know what I think what the big distinction with Peter here, from coward to not being to being unashamed, from being ashamed to being unashamed, was the resurrection. Phil, your obsession in your ministry, history has been the resurrection. When you talk about the crop duster,
Starting point is 00:42:34 you remember when we were on a plane somewhere, a little private King Air, and we were flying back from South Louisiana to hear, and all of a sudden, I mean, it sounded like a shotgun going off of the, I just boom! Inside the plane. And then you just hear this sucking sound.
Starting point is 00:42:53 And, of course, I mean, I'm thinking this thing is over. Do you remember this? Oh, yeah. And you had the best line ever. I mean, without missing a beat, Phil says, all right, boys, it's resurrection time. They were looking to me like, but you, I mean, like, I got a seal break out there, and everybody be all right. Everything's going to be okay.
Starting point is 00:43:16 But I was thinking, all right, this is it. But your immediate reaction was resurrection time. Well, think about it. Everybody physically dies, everybody. Everybody does. And you say, if you finally run up on a way that will conquer that, if you bow down to the God who said, I promise you, I will raise you from the dead. When you see that, you say, you know what, until I hear a better story, I'm sticking with this one.
Starting point is 00:43:48 I don't know where else to go. You know everybody's going to die, and you say, well, if you knew you were going to be raised from the dead, Would it bother you that much? Well, you would have to be, die with a smile on your face. Well, this is it. Fixing to depart from my tent. And to sum up the whole book of John, his gospel, really, it's resurrection with the purpose of being in the presence of God
Starting point is 00:44:16 and being an intimate fellowship with Him. And so it's not, it's even more than just being resurrected. I mean, you're being resurrected to live in the presence ever. Forever. I like it. That's powerful. That's so interesting to me.
Starting point is 00:44:33 The other thing that I thought was interesting about John, about the end of it here, is at the end of it, it says in verse 25, that there are also many other things that Jesus did, but we can't write them all down because we couldn't contain them in a book.
Starting point is 00:44:52 That makes me curious of what else. Yeah, we brought that up. last bad guess because it's like who else could say that? And it tells you that it's not really about getting everything written down right.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Think about that. That's right. Because he's like, there's way more that happened. So, and he made this point in chapter 20. But he was saying, but this is enough to do it.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Bar you. Right. He said that in chapter 20 in verse 31 when he said These are written that you may believe that Jesus is to Christ the son of God and that by believing you may have life that's the point That's the point
Starting point is 00:45:35 And I'll tell you this You're talking about going down and here we go I had the same similar playing Experience just two or three times I thought well that's it And one of them I think we brought the pilot To the Lord because he was way more scared than we were Which told you where he was at
Starting point is 00:45:51 In his faith journey But I mean I'm just saying if I was going to be a pilot, I'd get to know Jesus. I mean, that's what I told the crop duster this morning. I said, you do what? You know, he said, well, you know, I'm the one of a crop duchy field. I said, well, good to meet you. Good night.
Starting point is 00:46:06 I said, man, if anybody on the earth should embrace the resurrection, it would be a crop duster. I said, y'all rape power lines, trees, and flame outs. I mean, you know. He showed us a picture. He told us some wild tales. Well, he showed a picture of his buddy. Who crashed it? That thing went like a tin can.
Starting point is 00:46:22 And I said, well, do. did he have family? No, he lived. I was like, he lived after that? It's like these NASCAR drivers, you know, see him flip 14 times. You get up there, they just walk out. That's a dangerous job.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Oh, is it ever? Split second decisions, whether you made it over the power lines or not. But I'm like, we got a lot in common because in a way we'll kind of be our own pilots, I guess, once we get this body. I just haven't taken off yet. But we will.
Starting point is 00:46:51 But I did want to say this. In 22, you know, when he brought, up, everybody believes this is John when he said, Jesus answered, if I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You must follow me. And because of that, you know, John, which is giving credit for the same John being the revelator in Revelation, was the only disciple or I guess closest follower of Jesus that wasn't martyred. And so you kind of get that idea from what he said, but I like that little phrase, if I want him to remain alive. You know, Jesus has that power.
Starting point is 00:47:31 So a lot of times, I mean, look, I didn't plan on sharing this, but we choose a family every year to help out. I might have shared this, but it was a, I mean, one of our longtime friend's sister in the Lord, you know, we gave him some money because she had got diagnosed of cancer, and it was just not looking real great. So we prayed. Because, I mean, this is one of, if I had a top ten of spiritual people I've been around in my journey,
Starting point is 00:48:01 she would be on there. Well, she goes, you know, for her next checkup here or whatever. They're like, we can't figure out what in the world? You know, I felt like the way Missy was telling me this, of course, she had tears streaming down her faith. It was like one of them where you're hitting the, x-ray machine saying what what happened here you know and I thought this this phrase popped in my head if I want you to remain alive I mean what's that to you so I'm like yeah so the cancer was
Starting point is 00:48:32 it was gone yeah they just said we it just doesn't seem what we thought it was not cancers praise God yeah I was like really I mean I wasn't I mean why do you pray hard for something and then be shocked when it happens again. But I felt like, are they sure? Missy said, that's what they say. But he does hold the keys to all of it. I think that that's...
Starting point is 00:48:59 We've seen it multiple, multiple times. Yeah, but at the end of the day, none of us escaped the grave. Well, that's right. I mean, look, this woman, I'm telling you, real spiritual people, real people close to God when you talk to them in times like this. Because Missy, she took her little basket,
Starting point is 00:49:16 had her some cash hidden away because she wouldn't have taken it, you know. And but Missy said she was calm, peace. You know, she's like, I sense zero stress. Because you're thinking, oh, what if I'm going to say, this is going to be a rough conversation. Like 100% at peace. So to me, that's encouraging.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Yeah. These are people who have really just engulfed themselves with the spirit. and this word right here. Because really, I mean, it's like anything in life. When a crisis happens, that's kind of where you see you, where your faith is.
Starting point is 00:49:56 That's true. Well, we're out of time. And, Jace, I'm coming over for dinner tonight. I know. Missy's like, do you care if Zach and your lovely wife come over for supper? I was like, you didn't have to ask me that.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Well, we were talking about it. She said, well, Jason gets all finicky there and ducksies lonely. Oh, no. You're good. I mean, I rarely come in town. I will say this. She's going to cook chili and Phil's not going to like this. It makes him uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:50:29 She cooks the greatest pot of chili that I've ever eaten. Sorry. Well, I'm excited now. It's good. Well, I'll see you tonight and we'll be back next time. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube
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