Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 21 | Phil’s LSU Excitement, Jase's Footraces, Al's Football Career

Episode Date: September 15, 2019

Phil is so excited about the start of LSU football that he went to bed early, Jase makes a few bucks in footraces, and Al gets out on the wrong side of the gene pool.    See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX   See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1   To take a FREE 30 Day Trial of Phil's TV show and the rest of BlazeTV: https://www.BlazeTV.com/Phil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unachanged. What about you? I love this time of year because everybody's getting ready for hunting season and you have football season starts. It's awesome. So since I've been in Texas, let's get the Teal Report. The Teal Report, actually the real reconnaissance is taking place. Today is Monday. Teal season opens Saturday.

When you get down to four or five, six days out, you begin to ease around not spooking them, not spooking them. Recon missions. We're watching for them. So the last months we saw was about 20, and they came out of the elm hole. I'm sitting on the pipeline watching down in there, and about 20 got out of there.

Stone had seen about 40 earlier that morning on the little Mize hole. So 40 sitting on the Mize hole, 20 is sitting on. So I know they're around there. We saw a couple of singles come down the pipeline when we were brushing that duck blind. We're brushing duck blinds and recon on the teal where they are. You're basically scaring them all. so well pretty close yeah because once you seal yeah that means something happened in order

them to take flight that's okay well what i did is you know last year we had the worst teal season ever i think well we we hunted 16 days and i think we shot 14 till we didn't even work out one per day yeah it was like that's a pretty tough average that's one gumbo but the last season. The last time we burned them was year before last where I left the water on the hole like I did this year. Well, right. And there are more teal down there.

Which brings me to my point, I never schedule any events during teal season or duck season because a hunt. That's just the way it is. This way it's always been. But since we had such a pathetic till season last year, in a moment of weakness, I scheduled two events back to back, you know, one weekend. to North Carolina and then I'm headed to Kentucky on the way back. Stone and I will give you an update and a briefing on how many till we kill without you being

there. Yeah, I know you're going to kill them because last year we had no water. And this year, we had water for nine months, so you didn't take it off. Precisely. Which basically until season, whoever's got the water wins. That's it. And it's really, I guess, in duck season overall. Well, unless you have too much water.

Well, unless you have too much. We have a tremendous millet crop. I planted the silt from the backwater, the muck. I used a wheeler with tracks on it instead of wheels. Tracks don't bury up like tires. Tires, you couldn't have done it. How many times have you buried a tractor or bulldozer? More than I want to admit.

But the bottom line is, I had these tracks on one of these four-wheelers, and I was able to plant it and I said no fertilized the silt was plenty fertile but amazingly I looked at it the other day I mean it's been up about a month the water stays so late

I didn't have time but try to dry it up and disk it up I said we just got to go with it much amazing to me just as I'm an insider but also as an outsider because I don't work it like you guys do

is that people watching and listening you know I just think we walk out there and you just get in your mind start shooting. But I mean, the process that happens to prepare land is incredible. What I've noted is that during the process on brushing the blinds, shoring up the duct blinds, patching them up, replacing floors, get them all brushed. If you say it real quick, but 50 or 60 duck blinds to haul enough brush down there to get them all brushed, we just take one at a time. It's 105 in the

shade at 1 o'clock in the evening, so we go early. Right. But I have noticed, Al, that I have not laid my eyes on one Jason Robertson during the blind brushing process. He's there. He's usually there. Now he's going to speak out somewhere and not be there on opening day, but I normally don't see him or his buddy stone, the entire blind brushing.

That is not true. Usually I'm down here helping this year. I've had some other things going on. So I've sent Jay down here numerous times. Jay has been down a few times. Because Jay is in so good of shape now. You know, he's turning to a boxer. I think he started off just trying to lose some weight.

Plus the eunuch is the bar man, so he's got plenty of muscles. So I'm taking muscle men with me to just a haul willows. Which, by the way, I'm trying to get to, you know, everybody's into the UFC fighting now. You know, you're squaring off, kicking and fighting and submission. Jitsu. Jiu-Jitsu. So I want us to do like a local fight between Stone and the Unic. I would pay money to see that fight because there's an age difference. They're both into it.

The Unic, you know, he's kind of local. He's kind of like a Spider-Man. Right. He's a ninja style where Stone, I think, would be more of a bruiser. But, I mean, normally I'm not into watching men fight, but I'm saying I might pay money to watch the Unic versus Stone. Jay has always said he has anger management issues. That's why he quit playing golf. He couldn't, he could not play the game.

Dan, the eunuch is the opposite. Yeah. He's a meek and gentle man. See, I think he's not mean enough to beat Stone, even though he's got him by 20 years. Well, they found something in this working out and, you know, like. Of course, Stone's a veteran. He went to the military.

They got him up in there, you know, broke him and then made him, whatever. Well, yeah. And then he just let himself go for a few. few years and now he's gone the other way yeah like he looks like he just came out Afghanistan now oh yeah well I pull up in the driveway because you know we live right next to each other I pull up in my driveway he's out there it's 100 degrees he's bobbing and weaving and sweat pouring off I mean he he's into tell you about two weeks ago you know I'm driving through the neighborhood well I look up I just see him running through the yard you know

I pull up there and roll down the window I said what happened and he's like what you're talking about I thought he was something happened in the neighborhood. Somebody was after. Yeah. He's like, no, I'm just running, staying in shape. I said, well, that's kind of dumb to do in the middle of the day when it's 101 degrees. So here's what Stone says about us. He says, you can never win with a Robertson because when I was fat, you know, and out of shape,

they were like, son, you're fat and out of shape. You're pathetic. He said, then I get into shape. I mean, the best shape of my life is like, what are you going through a midlife crisis? I mean, time to back off, son, trying to just go back into normal mode. He was like, I can't wear with the Roberts. I said, I said, well, that's welcome to my wife.

He's a man of extremes. He is a man of extreme. So we were in Austin. Oh, man. Did you watch the game, the LSU, Texas game? I watched half of it. What? So for the second half, you know, they said they went back and forth,

but the tigers. So you only watched the first half? I watched the first half. You went to bed? I was so excited about it. I went in there and said, let me sleep on it. That's one of the most exciting games I've ever said. Your mother told me the next day, did you see that game?

I see why you never made it in the NFL. You are exactly right. I mean, if you can map on that game. I had the skill set, but you say the old, the woods kept calling me to the woods. I said, you know what I'm doing? You just think about them teal next morning. Maybe I'll go see some. Let's get it.

I'm like, okay, I'm burned out. It's kind of the way I was about running track. You know, I was always fast in high school. And, you know, it gets out when you go to these big high schools, you know, they're like, well, I heard you as fast. I was out there racing people for $5, you know. And I was doing the deal with that you taught us about, you know, a man can outrun a vehicle up to 40 yards.

Yeah, 30, 40 yards. Or a horse. Oh, yeah, every one of them. And so I was making a little money, you know, well, it got out. And so the track coach came. game and saw him and he's like I heard you were fast you know and I I was like well what kind of vehicle do you have because I thought he wanted to rate I was like oh this is there's more money right here but he's like no I want you to come run track you know I go out there lined us up

you know we ran whatever they run you know 60 yards and I finished second they had the track team and of course the funny part was I took my shoes off because in my mind I thought I was better barefoot, but I don't know why I did that. So he's like, man, you know, he's bragging on me. You know, we got great things. I got about a week into that practice. You know, all you do is you show up and you just start running in circles. And I was like, this is literally going to drive me insane.

Went to the coach said, I'm out. I'll run for money. I'll run if somebody's chasing me. There's a hog chase me, but just come out here and run around the track it. I can't, I'm out. I just finally figured out that I have. had much rather catch fish and hunt ducks and what than throw touchdown passes. I just had a bigger thrill out in the wild with the ducks.

It's funny because Bradshaw, he basically told that when he, a year, 40 years ago, his first book when he made it in the pros, he was number one draft pick. He said, what do you tell you got $100,000 spread out over 10 years? Yep. The big money wasn't flowing. In 1970, it wasn't quite the same. Oh, they're making multi-million.

Yeah, Elliot just signed a $90 million deal. And holding out for, you know, I don't want $20 million. If that kind of money had been... Yeah, you might have had a little different motivation. I'd have tried it two or three years. But he said, Dad, that you... That was your motivation, which he was glad. Like, he was telling those stories even back then.

So it's funny, Dad, because I had a similar experience of you, but when Maxie Lambright was your coach, one of your coaches. His son-in-law, Causey, was the coach at Western Illinois High School when I was there in the late 70s. So word got to him, so he knew about you, hearing stories about, you know, from his father-in-law. So word got to him that Phil Robertson's son was here. So they sent word up. You know, I get pulled out of class one day and I get escorted down to the, you know, football, you know, mecca. And I, because they're thinking, well, good night.

Phil Robertson's son, we got it. We may have something here. So I walk in, I'm 5'9, you know, 140. And slow. And they took one look at me. I was like, yeah, I tell you, Dad, we said hello. And then I didn't even get the escort back to class as I find her own ways. So they look one look.

They just got a visual. They didn't even ask me if I could throw or anything. A lot of people don't realize something, but you're born with the ability, you are born with the ability to throw a football or a baseball. You don't learn how to do that. Right. You either have it or you don't. But you also, when you're 6, 4, 2.30 and you marry a woman that's, you know, 4, 11, 90 pounds,

what comes out of it is 59-160. It cut into that gene poo. And slow. That's what Jeff just said that this weekend. We were in Austin. That's where Jet lives. And he told Mom, he said, thanks to Dad marrying you, none of us had a chance. He doesn't.

He like blames it on Mom. Oh, I used to tell her that. We used to make her so mad. She's a great mother. Okay, where we're going this morning? No, I was telling you, look. So it's the first LSU game I've ever gone to that was on the road. And I got invited.

My assistant actually lives in Austin, which is Missy's aunt, my wife's aunt. And somehow another, they're like, you know, I got access to a suite, and they invited you and Missy to come watch LSU game. Well, first I just said I'm out because I thought, why would I want to go be in a room with a bunch of Texas fans? Which is why I thought you said would not show up. Yeah, first I said no, but she just kept on. I was like, look, I'm telling you, they're fine.

And so, and Missy wanted to go. And I was like, and then I started, you know, LSU looks so impressive in week one. And I'm like, man, this could be an epic battle. So I'm in. And so we went. And I tell you, it was quite the game. And I was so, it was so interesting to see how other universities, you know, just have their game day and the facilities there were awesome.

And the people were actually awesome. You know, if LSU, I've been to plenty of LSU games where they lost, oh, it gets grumpy. You know, you're just wanting to get. But you know, the Texas fans, I mean, they were real respectful. I noticed the Texans had stashed the LSU fans so high up. That's what I was. I was looking.

I thought, weren't. Where are all these LSU fans? I look weird. I've even had the band up there. I've never seen the opposing band in the upper deck until this game. I'm like, this guy drops a horn on somebody? They're dead. Oh, yeah.

You see a tuba go down. Yeah, their drums are like leaning over the edge. I was like, this can't be. The only people that heard the band was LSU fans, which it was the one good thing about it was the way the game turned out so exciting in LSU won, is that 3,000. We may have been stashed away, but if you were in that bunch, Oh, it was party time now.

It was really awesome. But I've already talked to some people in the athletic department at LSU. And for the first time next year, you know, because they always put the ban on the south end zone in Tiger Stadium. They're going to be up in the upper. Oh, no, no doubt. It's going to be payback. Only 3,000 seats and the band's going up.

But it was an awesome game battle back and forth. But everybody was like, well, what happened to LSU's defense? And I'm like, it's 102 degrees. They had the goal line stand twice in the first quarter. Well, then they just start falling out like flies because cramps. Literally every other play somebody was down. And then the crowd just booed and booed. And they're like, you know, they're doing it on purpose.

I'm like, no, they're hot and they're out of gas. That's why you're just running all over so we can't stop you. It is as hot in Texas as it is down here in South Louisiana. You put 100,000 people together in that atmosphere. Well, they were, it's surprised and nobody died. Another reason I chose ducks over football. Well, and by the way, mom told me, because mom made the wisest, mom was going with us to the game, which would have been a disaster.

But she wisely backed out because she could have never done it. But she told me she saw on the local news, they had 58 ambulance, you know, deals, fans from the stadium because of the heat. Oh, it was brutal. But it was incredible gaming. Look, I was pretty well. mannered until I was wondering that was that was my question for you did you go nuts because I went nuts oh did I go nuts I about broke my hand because that there's a glass you know like when it got too hot like at half time we just you know it's 65 degrees in there where I'm at it's awesome but

it's it's plastic glass and so when burrow hit you know when he he got flushed on the pocket he stepped up he threw kind of a wounded duck fell down Jefferson called it makes a move he scored I literally went. Because that was the seal of the game. Yeah, I lost it. I did, you know, I pumped my feet. So much so you tried to put your fist through a plate glass window. Yeah.

I thought I'd broken my hand, but I didn't care. Well, you know, I was in that weird moment where I'm looking around for somebody to share that. And Missy was like too far away. And when I finally gathered myself and look back, all these people that I'm with, they're just sitting there. And I was like, hey. But everybody from LSU who are fans heard me because I was screaming so loud. And so they look back and then they're like, hey, that's that dude from Duck Dynasty. So then we started like chanting at each other, go tigers and I just joined right in.

Well, then everybody's looking and I thought, I lay known and tell Missy. I was like, if we get out of here without me getting my butt smoke, I will be shot. But I couldn't help, but I lost it. So we're talking about Moses. Dad's ready to get into the meat of the matter. Last time we sort of laid out, you know, kind of just following this stream of these patriarchs, these people that God raised up. And so we're at the point now we're in the book of Exodus if you're following along with us.

And we've noted that God usually uses the last people that you would think. Yep. From our perspective to lead, you know, his will. That's what you keep seeing. And it always seems like almost an impossible situation. Yeah. And Moses certainly was that because he was, as we described last time, he was basically marked to die, you know,

along with all the other Hebrew boys. Yeah, he's a baby floating down the river. And he winds up being the man, you know? I mean, the journey to get there is pretty incredible. I mean, Hollywood, if Hollywood did this, that's, oh, man, you need to be more realistic. I know. And it's funny, they did.

did it. Remember it was a Batman played Moses but I don't know the Christian bail but it was so, do you ever see No, I never watched it. It was I'm always a little weird about watching those kind of movies because it just It's kind of like the Noah thing when they had the

You know I kind of liked the Noah. It was kind of cool. It was kind of cool but the rock monsters and I don't know I see from you know study and I see where they get those ideas and you know we've all worked with Hollywood we get it, you know. But what I do like is they try, you know, I think a lot of people in religion try to get everything exactly right. And I think a lot of these stories are basically giving you the overall narrative of what happened and you get the principles. Because in the end, if you miss how it relates

to Jesus and us, well, you pretty much missed it anyway. Well, I sit there and argue an hour about what the exact town was that he went from here. But you see that a lot in religion. You get caught up in it. And it's just so boring. You know, I'm like, if you're at your church and you're doing like a nine-week series on Paul's missionary journeys, I think we've missed the point here. You know, you better get in what he was sharing instead of the exact location and the details. Turn into a geography lesson.

But I'm telling you say that you would think that's common sense. But, hey, go visit a local church near you and see the kind of stuff that you're hearing. and you wonder why they're not growing. So Moses in Exodus 3, he basically gets to the burning bush, which is kind of where we left off last time, and he gets a direct communique from the Almighty in a bush that's on fire that won't burn up.

Which you think about, look, everything they're fixed to go through, I thought about this later after we had talked about that. It's basically representing, you know, when you see a bush that should be burning up and it doesn't, and you know what they were fixed to go through, through, which you have every reason on what's fixed to happen to quit and give up because this is

fixed and get tough. Right. But you don't. You know, I just thought about that how that applies in life, that God is able to give you some kind of visual image like that where this should destroy you, but if you're with me, you will survive. I think that's a subconscious, you know, we read it as a story, but if you actually saw that and you start thinking about that.

You know, he probably thought about that. Like, well, what does it mean? Right. Why is God representing himself in a bush that doesn't burn up? That should be destroyed. But he has the ability, when you think something is over, you think it's going to be destroyed. He has the power to survive.

I think it's a good subliminal subconscious message. It is. And from Moses' perspective, think about this, he's 80 years old. You know, he had been a young man. You know, zero to 40, raised in Pharaoh's house. He had an altercation that we talked about last time. He winds up in the desert for 40 years thinking basically any chance he had any sort of normal life, you know, back where he was in Egypt, that's gone.

He's 40 years in the desert. It's like you being here today. You're 74. If all of a sudden, this would happen now to you. And you'd already lived your whole life. And all of a sudden, guys said, oh, wait a minute, I got something you hadn't even thought about you. Talk about a test. That's right.

So just the age factor of where he's at. So he sees this and basically he's told by God, you're going to go back to Egypt and you're going to leave my people out. Moses, who by now, you know, one time he seemed like he says about himself, he could never speak very well. But the Bible says earlier, Hebrew says it was a young man. He was strong in character and conviction and was able to speak, but he's lost all that.

And so now he doesn't even want to do it. He said, can you send somebody else? It was kind of like you were talking about it. He doesn't even want to do it himself. And so the Bible says the Lord was angry. It made God mad at him. He said, wait a minute. No, is this in chapter three?

Well, we were talking about when he said, who am I. Yeah. And we said, I am who. Right. I am who I am. Which is basically God saying, you know, when you say, who am I, like we're a proper noun, you know, with a name, Moses. And he's like, I'm a noun and a verb.

If you think about it. A noun and a verb, and I have no time constraint. Well, right. So I guess I'm an adjective also. And when you think about that grammatically, I'm right. He was saying I'm like a living organism. You know, because I am who I am. This same thing, Jesus said, tell them I am.

Well, and think about it, God has always been invisible. There's, you know, and still is in the sense of people see and communicate, but there's no actually seeing it, which I thought was interesting that verse in Hebrews. You need to read that. I think so. I mean, because, you know, if you're like me, I kind of, you know, I'm not a real smart fellow, you know, people listening.

And so you think you start reading Exodus and you're not, what is, you get bogged down in the details and the Hittites and the, you know, Prizites and all this. But when you go to. I'm not sure that's an official group of people. I was just saying that for a thing. But you go to Hebrews, which I think mirrors the Exodus experience and the law, the given of the law, and then that being the shadow to Jesus coming.

Would you agree with that? Yep. And you have this faith chapter. What do you call this? The Hall of Faith. Yeah, I call it the Hebrews Hall of Fame. So you basically, they sum up Moses just in like four verses, which, you know, makes you think how you'll be summed up at the end of the day.

If you could even make the book, right? But it does have a line that is awesome. I mean, it starts off in 23. I see 24, it said Hebrews 11, 24 or 25. It says he chose to be mistreated along with the people of God rather than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a short time, which you kind of described that last time. Yeah, which goes in, I mean, I think that's something noble to be shared.

Right. But then he gets to 27. He says, by faith, he left Egypt, not fearing the king's anger, he persevered because he saw him who is invisible. I mean, now that is a statement. When you think about how he got through all this, well, what was his secret? What are the life lessons that we can see? Really, that describes all of us and what we have in Jesus.

We are literally walking around on earth trusting something that is invisible, which sounds crazy to the world, but to us, it's just standard operating procedure. You do see the qualities. You can see them. And John the Apostle said, when you see people

and they're known for their love for God and one another, he said, that's when you see God. That's how you see him. Right. You see him by people's life. That's why light of the world salt of the earth, we can show them God, but we better be on our game and we better watch our mouth and what's what we do as we walk by faith because one misstep and they're going to say,

no, no. You see God. I mean, remember he had the man. Your life is a statement. That's right. Remember he had the manna and the quail, you know, that when he was looking at it, not like, oh, this is cool. There's bread falling.

What a phenomenon. He was like, no, this is God. And ultimately, that would be related to Jesus. Remember in 1st Corinthians 10 that example of Moses and it said God wasn't pleased with them? But it said they drank from the water, the water that came out of the rock. I'm not sure where that story is in Exodus. But it says in, is it 1st Corinthians 10 or second? First Corinthians 10.

It says that rock that accompanied them was Christ. Right. And also you remember that, I think it's in John. Before he became flesh, he was with him. Well, yeah, and you remember in John 5 when Jesus was talking and they were having this debate over trusting Moses or him, and Jesus was like, you're reading the scriptures thinking you're going to get eternal life

and you're missing the parts about me. Yep. You know, you can't get eternal life without me. But then he said an interesting thing. He said, Moses, the one you're putting your trust in, he wrote about me. That's right. Yep.

Which is, what a thing to say? They're like, what? That's thousands of years ago. That's exactly right. Moses wrote about you. Well, you're some fellow. Remember in John 8, whenever they were talking about Abraham, which of course predates Moses, and they were like, we know who Abraham is.

We're children of Abraham, but who are you? And that's when Jesus said before Abraham was born, I am, which goes back to that same context, he made a statement, I am the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Well, it had been a long time since they had been on the earth. And most people say, well, God would have said, I was their God, meaning they're gone now. But God was telling Moses out of that bush, I'm just letting you know, I am their God. They're not dead. That's right. They're on the other side and they're in good shape. They physically have died, but they're alive. which is why 2,000 years later, Jesus used the exact same language to his audience.

He said to him, he's not the God of the dead, but of the living. For to him, they all are alive. That's why you're looking, seeing Moses standing up there on the Mount of Transfiguration and a body, some kind of body or glorified body, and Elijah standing out talking it over with Jesus thousands of years after they supposedly were on the earth. You said, wonder why God showed them that. And they're all glowing. And of course the apostles, they're looking, Peter and him like, whoa.

Right. But that's also why this is the most powerful organism on planet Earth, the church. Right. Because remember when Jesus said, you know, it's like the spirit. You see its effects, but you know, and he compared it to the wind. And basically, you know, the wind is invisible. I mean, you can look at it and you know the wind's blowing because the trees are moving. Right.

Yep. But that's the same. way the Holy Spirit of God works, you see the effects, but it's invisible. Right. You can't see it. That's why if people try to destroy the true church, well, the last thing they need to do is go to church buildings. Right.

Because God doesn't live in buildings. Right. You know, it's invisible. That's why I think it's an awesome, you know, thing to say about somebody's life who went through all what Moses did. He made it through because of his faith. Right. That's why when you hear people that are kind of chasing the miraculous, you know,

You know, you hear this a lot in the religious world, and I believe God works supernaturally. But when you get to miracles where something physically happens that is undeniable, that it was a supernatural act of God, what we have through faith is actually more powerful than that. That's why he said without faith, it's impossible to please God. Plus, if Jesus appeared, as we're seated at this table, talking into these mics, if he appeared, six feet right over here if he just became visible five feet from this table and he looked at us and he said you guys are doing well peace be with you and he went he disappeared now we would look at each other and on air we would say did am i dreaming or did you see what i just saw and you said i saw what you

just saw and jakes would say hey listen you say why wouldn't he do that for you from time to time, because when the audience heard us discussing this, good night, did you see that? That was Jesus himself. They would say, you talk about a bunch of lunatics. Look, that one already saying that anyway. They already say that. That one appearing would cause us more trouble, way more trouble,

than it's worth, because here's the point. It wouldn't take anything away. Would you still have to have your faith? in the death of Jesus for your sins. Even if he did appear to you every 15 minutes, your faith, that wouldn't save you, his appearing to you. You say his death on a cross is what saves you.

You would still have to believe that he died for you was buried and raised from the dead. So why appear to somebody every 15 minutes when they already believe because they've read the story and they're looking back at how the story came to fruition, which we're doing it today? Well, to prove your point,

Jesus was here for 33 years, three years he went around doing miracles doing all these things and all the people that watched him when he went in to be crucified where were they I mean yeah they had seen the whole thing unfolds yeah all hit the road at the road even after his resurrection it says if I could just see him I'd tell what I'd believe in him that's what the atheists would say I said no you wouldn't right there were plenty of people 2,000 years ago that saw him raise the dead heal the sick I mean feed the 5,000 you said well how come that didn't do it? it for him. He fried the fig tree and they come up there and said, but what authority are you doing

these things? Instead of just believing, if you touch a tree and it just fries it like roundup on it or something, you're like, I would be sitting there thinking, uh, that's enough of me. But they were saying, well, what authority did you fry the fig tree? Well, they just thought it was a trick, dude. I mean, they passed off all the miracles as tricks, which same thing happens today. I mean, there's a lot of people claiming all this is going on. But I'm like, why do you need to see a miracle today if you have a letter from God Almighty that, you know, the more you read this, the harder it is to get around it because of all the details.

You're the merit from the history, geography of the Bible. It's just all the pieces start filling together. Even what we're talking about with Moses, I mean, you realize this was all a shadow of experiencing the presence of God. I mean, he gave the law, because I used to just think that. All right, he gave the law, which, when did Mount Sinna happen in the book of Exodus? Well, it's going to happen in 19 and 20. Yeah, 19 and 20.

But think about, my point is, think about why he gave the law. He gave the law so that there would be a way to have sacrifices offered to experience the presence of God. To point them to Jesus is the exact word is. Right, but in the moment. For them, they still got the presence of God because they had his law. Then they had the steps that he required with the sacrifices to get to God who would then be in the Holy of Holies. And Hebrews talks about all that.

But my point is, we got to have that in Jesus because of the foundation that was laid there and you need a sacrifice. But they still got the presence of God. Right. How about this? The Apostle Paul said, although I'm. less than the least of all God's people. This grace was given me to preach to the Gentiles.

Here we all are. 2,000 years later, we're still here. The unsearchable riches of Christ and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery. It's a mystery. Watch, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, and we're reading in a time frame way before Jesus. You're like reading about Moses and them, but he's building a faithful. foundation. Way in the past it was kept hidden, who created all thanks. His intent was, even dealing

with Moses way before we get to the Roman Empire when Jesus shows up in flesh, his intent was, listen to this, Al, that now through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms, according to his eternal purpose. which you accomplished in Christ Jesus, our Lord. So you take three rednecks sitting here discussing this, you say, what are you all exactly doing? You said, we're showing the manifold wisdom of God to the evil one and anybody else who'll listen.

That's what we're doing. Right. Which is pretty ironic. It is. And to prove that point, I've always believed that's why Jesus did what he did on the Mount of Transfiguration. We talked about a minute ago, when Moses and Elijah both appeared with him,

Moses representing law, Elijah representing prophecy, the two things that always pointed towards who Christ was going to be. And then basically you're saying the presence of God is here, and then Jesus said about himself, I came to fulfill the law. Yep. And he kept it flawlessly and then sacrificed himself.

Yep. And then he said, I came to fulfill all prophecy. So everything pointed to him in the moment. And so he wanted a visual of that for his disciples to say, they never forgot it. Peter, he freaked out, which I would have too. And he was like, you know, what do we do?

I mean, it was what a scheme. I mean, he chose the nation of Israel just to show that this relation to people was what his heart was after. But it laid the foundation through Jesus that all nations could be his nation. Even looking at the Jewish nation, all of us now, if you just look at them, there's something different about the Jews. Oh, sure. Yeah.

Big time. Yeah. You can see it. You're like, hmm. Right. All this vitriol and hatred on one side and the other side, we're Gentiles grafted into their tree. Right.

You're like, all nations that would be blessed through Abraham. Right. And as this story unfolds with Moses leading the Israelites, you're like, it's through the, we owe our salvation to the Jews. Absolutely. But there was God's idea. That's right. God's idea.

Well, what I've always found fascinating, if you want to kind of boil it down and say, well, what does this all mean? You know, after Jesus died was buried and resurrected, and then all his apostles and followers went and started sharing Jesus, you get to Stephen in Acts 7, and he basically preaches.

You're talking about an update. You've heard this saying that, you know, a guy preached a suitcase sermon where, you know, he was worried that they were going to fire him to have your bags pack. That's what they would tell us and preach this goes.

Yeah, well, this turned out to be a coffin sermon because he basically went through the history of why God chose Israel. And look, he spent most of the chapter talking about Moses. But what I find interesting, so if you want to sum up the book of Exodus in like 20 verses, you just read Act 7. Because, I mean, he went through why God did it and what it meant. He brought it all together in a short statement. And he got down to the end and he got down to verse.

48 and he said, however the most high does not live in houses made by men, because he was comparing this, having the presence of God, you know, in the tabernacle exodus or going through a ritual. He was comparing what I'm saying, the ritualistic nature of the Old Testament and having the law versus now the relationship you can have with God, which is what he was after the whole time, you know, through Jesus. and the rules and regulations rules and regulations yeah and the holy spirit because then he says as the prophet says heaven is my throne this is act 749 the earth is my footstool what kind of house will you build for me says the lord or well where will my resting place be has not my hand

made all these things and then this is probably where the sermon you know was bad for him because he said, you stiff-necked people with uncircumcised hearts and ears, you are just like your fathers. You always resist the Holy Spirit. Was there ever a prophet your fathers did not persecute? They even killed those who predicted the coming of the righteous one, you know, speaking of Jesus. And so after he said that, it goes on to 54.

It says, when they heard this, they were furious and gnashed their teeth. But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, up to heaven and saw the glory of God and Jesus standing at the right hand. Look, he said, I see heaven open and the son of man standing at the right hand of God. Well, then they go nuts. At this, they covered their ears. You know, I used to do that, you know, like with Willie. Yeah, I just did want to hear him, you know, when we were kids. And which led to Stephen's death and Saul, who later would become Paul was there giving approval of it. But I just bring this up to say, one, it's a good explanation of Moses and how that transition to what we have in Jesus.

But it also shows you how people get so set in their ways and their thinking that here's this guy full of the Holy Spirit actually seeing Jesus. And they killed him. Yeah, and here's a martyr. And the guy that was holding his clothes, you know, at his behest, yeah, let's kill that one. he's all fired up y'all let's death kill him stone him to death and that's the dude that god would pick this saw watching this brutal murder of stephen and he picks that one to write most of the new testament well he wrote first corinthians 10 that we were just referring to about moses

talking did you have you all seen the movie uh the apostle paul it's a new movie you need to watch it i just watched it very interesting the whole movie is said with Paul awaiting his death. So the movie is basically him looking back. And Luke is there with him. And Jim Cavizo, who played Jesus in the Passion, is playing Luke in the movie. And basically he's just getting the word from Paul

to write the book of acts in the movie. So it's kind of looking back. Here's what the movie did, though, because you brought it up, I had to mention it, which it did beautifully. This actor playing Paul was amazing. Of course, he's older, Paul. But they keep looking back and he was younger.

He was so haunted. in the movie portrayal, but he would have been by all those that he had killed. So they kept showing him, and one of them was Stephen, but they kept showing all the little girls. I mean, because he's going in. They're hauling them off into prison. They're killing some of them.

And so I cried at the end of it because just thinking him looking back on his life. Of course, you know, at the end of the movie, he puts his neck into that, you know, slide. He did say, I'm the worst of sinners. I am pathetic. The movie really does it. good job of portraying what it would be like for a man who had spent most of his life once he

turned it around having that regret of what he had done it's a good thing now it's a great point you brought up because one of the problems i've seen working with the human race is there are many who say feel you don't you don't understand i've done things so terrible so sinful i can't be forgiven Right. Well, they need to look at the Apostle. Paul standing there holding Stephen, holding their, you know, at his behest, said, kill him, kill him. Right.

And he's the one that God chose to write most of the New Testament, which they need to look at that. That's right. And Paul says, if I can be saved, anyone can be saved. Sure. So back to Moses, just to catch us up for next time. We basically goes in, he has miracles at his disposal, which, by the way, didn't convince Pharaoh or many people.

Remember we talked about he could turn a staff, turned into a snake and back into a staff. He could put his hand in his cloak, pull it out, leprosy, put it back in, no leprosy. You know, it's just like a, but what happened was the magicians of, you know, Pharaoh's court, they pulled off the first couple of times, you know, when the water turned to blood,

well, they managed to pull it off. They did it. And even the frogs, they had some way to conjure up some frogs. So they're looking, this guy's just some kind of super magicians. So they didn't believe them at first. So that's why there had to have been 10 plagues. And it was really interesting because when you look at the plagues, the first ones I call the nuisance plagues, water to blood, frogs, which they reproduce.

But then we got to gnats and flies. They couldn't make that happen. There were so many gnats and flies they were in their nostrils, like an earwig, I guess. Well, yeah, a lot of people. By the way, for the Democratic Party, you're seeing a few ways God as well. plague of frogs, plague of gnats, plague of flies, plague of livestock disease, the plague of boiled. If they're going to heal the planet with Mother Nature in control, which I've never heard of it in the Bible, if they're going to do this whole thing, their work is cut out from is all I've

got to say because we've got floods that curve of the earth. They've got to do something about all that. You're like, they have bitten off a lot, and they're also claiming when the whole thing will end. They said, oh, yeah, 11 years. You said, well, God said, Nobody knows when he's going to end this thing. What are you talking about? They've got a lot of work to do, Al. I feel like we took a turn on. Are we back on the right and the left?

Dad's the only person that could take the flags and pivot to the Green New Deal. So look. Oh, that's what you meant. That's what I meant. Get up with it, Jay. Start watching news, son. No, I know that was going on. I just don't sit around and watch Fox News.

All right. So one step further, so you had the nuisance place. legs. Then he went after the economy. It was the livestock, the boils. They couldn't leave their house. It couldn't work. Hale, locust. It's wiping them out now economically. They couldn't stop it. Couldn't stop it. So you think... This month and Al said, oh, we can stop it. You're like, yeah, okay. Yeah, which to that's point is right. So, but here's the point. This will catch us of it. Next time we'll unpack this. Still wouldn't work. All this. That's a lot of devastation. Farrow said, nope. Unbelievable. Nope. Nope. Nope.

until the last two, and one of them was the plague of darkness. Just the thing about it's so dark you couldn't see your hand in front of your face for a while. So now we're working on the emotional center, and people are starting to say, whoa, whoa, whoa. And then, of course, the last one, which was the plague of the firstborn, where basically every firstborn, which would be me and our family, dropped dead overnight. Now, you imagine the anguish across a nation. every firstborn son or daughter and every firstborn animal drop dead overnight. That's God telling the human race, hey, our worldly power, do something about this.

Listen to me. Fix this. So next time we get together, we'll talk about that because something very important happens on this night of death where we see this idea of the Passover and the Passover lamb, which all that's going to matter. We get to the New Testament and even to today. So we want to unpack that a little more next time we get together. I want to mention here, I hadn't mentioned in a while, the theft of America's soul. If you hadn't picked up a copy of that, that's Dad's latest book.

Very good. Talks about exactly some of the things in America we see now compared to some of the stuff we've been talking about. Also, Lisa and I have a new book. It's called Desperate Forgiveness, which is also new, really dealing with a lot of biblical stories. And we've used some Old Testament stories to talk about God's forgiveness. So if you hadn't checked those out, grab one of those, and we'll see you next time on Unashamed. So we're so glad you guys were with us today. You can subscribe on iTunes or Spotify or YouTube or Facebook, and be sure and rate us on iTunes so that other people can know about the podcast.