Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 212 | Jase Gets Heckled, Phil Takes a Stand That Changes His Life, and What to Do Post-Election

Episode Date: January 22, 2021

Jase recalls getting showered with four-letter words when he was in D.C. for Trump's inauguration. Phil is fed up with political corruption, and the guys offer powerful and encouraging words for anyon...e who feels beaten down by politics and the election season. Jase has a scenario that's true for God and Liam Neeson. And Al is sure that if Phil hadn't taken a bold stand for his beliefs at an event, Duck Commander would have never become the company it did. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? So as we're speaking, Jays, as we are recording this podcast, as we're talking, we are also inaugurating a new regime to lead our country, which is of note because we've talked quite a bit lately about that. But today is inauguration day. Well, I'll miss it because they need to move it. out of duck season if they want me to participate in that. But, yeah, I was just thinking, you know what I was coming out here today was that four years ago
Starting point is 00:00:41 that we were all in D.C. because we were invited to the inauguration. So I am glad we got to experience it once. I mean, it was awesome. I haven't been heckled like that in years. Now, I don't know if I ever told you this story. You know, we got heckled going to the balls and different things. And my security was a Navy C.
Starting point is 00:01:02 So I felt safe. If you're going to have security, a Navy SEAL is the way to go. These are some bad dudes. This may be bad to say, but there were a couple of moments during that weekend where he had to take a stand. One of them was against an unruly group of people who were calling us like Nazis and just using profanity and we're invading our space. and the other one was a guy who was just drunk at this party. That reminded me when we were in filming in France with Dad for a movie, we were walking.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Every day we would walk to these different places where we'd film or whatever. We had some guys with that. I don't know what they were, but they were something special forces that were our protection. And this guy comes up and he's kind of glassy-eyed and he sees Dad. He's like, hey, he starts to do it. And all of a sudden, we kind of speed up and I look back over my shoulder and he just disappeared.
Starting point is 00:02:00 The trail guy, our special forces guy, I don't know what he did, but in the flash of a second, this guy just disappeared. I don't know. And then we were around the corner. I never knew what happened. Oh, these guys.
Starting point is 00:02:13 These guys. Remember that, Dad? I mean, I think. All I can say is I look back and the guy that was coming toward me. Leaning in a little bit there, the guy who was coming at me was on the ground. And it happened like a,
Starting point is 00:02:28 a split second. If you said that or reminded me of that. Is it wrong that a part of me was like, oh, I wish this guy. Because this drug guy, he sat, it was Willie and Corey, and Missy and I were at something together. And this guy just came and plopped down in Corey's seat. And he said, that seat's taken. I'm going to have to ask you to find another.
Starting point is 00:02:56 He said it real nice. my bodyguard guy and the guy just went he got up and he said the Navy SEAL said you're fixed to make a big mistake I'm going to give you three seconds to whatever he said
Starting point is 00:03:12 it was it was very like it was like to evacuate the premises or something along those lines it sounded very official yeah and there was like one second of hesitation and I thought because the guy who was being disruptive was twice the size of my guy.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Which is why he thought he could just sit wherever he wanted to. But I'm going to tell you something. I could see it in my guy's eyes. That other fellow, the drunk got was fixed to get hurt. Just that quick. And that guy looked at him and just turned. Because you know why? Because he saw it in his eyes too.
Starting point is 00:03:49 This guy is scary. Which I told you all that before. My guy at the actual inauguration, I didn't have a seat for him. because they were like, he's not on the list. I was like, well, he's a Navy sale. How can he not be on the list? Yeah. They're like, no, they don't do list.
Starting point is 00:04:07 But he said, oh, I'll be there. And, you know, he got with us and was standing because when they were checking everybody, he just acted like he was checking everybody. And, you know, there you go. But we're safe because this guy is on our side, so I didn't think it was that big of deal. But what I was going to say is the next day I got heckled by some,
Starting point is 00:04:32 it was some kind of women's group. Well, they had the day after Trump's inauguration, they planned a big women's march in D.C. So you got all the Trump people that are being in for the inauguration. They're leaving, but you got this other group coming in. So it was the clash of ideals is what I would call that. Well, a group of them were coming by, and somebody recognized me and said a few things.
Starting point is 00:04:57 that they shit one of the women. Yeah. And, of course, I went with, hey, I love everybody. And I love Jesus. They were just looking at me. Because I just, I'm not going to, if you're going to shower four-letter bombs toward me,
Starting point is 00:05:11 I'm going to shower you with love and Jesus. So it actually worked out. Did they have their vagina hats on? Because there were a bunch of those around that. No, I didn't notice, though. I was just trying to get a couple. No one serving as a soldier. gets involved in civilian affairs, he wants to please his commanding officer.
Starting point is 00:05:34 In this case, Jesus, I've mentioned it before, but I'm just saying, I've made a, I've come to a conclusion. I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, whatever little bitty part I ever played in politics with human, governments. I'm now saying Jesus is my commander in chief. Love it. The commanding officer,
Starting point is 00:06:04 I bow to him and him alone. And I'm going to point people to him and I'm not going to get too involved in left wing, right wing, yeah, yeah, party. He said, it's just too corrupt
Starting point is 00:06:18 I'll point him to Jesus, given the opportunity. I'm like you, Jace. I'm done with, okay, we're going to get together and with the cleratives and left-winger, right-wing. But that's a perfect lead-in to what I want to say, because I don't think it's an accident. By the way, it's based on Acts chapter 2 and follow. That's what I was fixed to say. It's not an accident that we're in Acts when this happened.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Look, it's disappointing when our guy doesn't win. Sickening. because the policies that we grew up crescent to the last four years line up way more with godly principles. Yes. However, you can't get depressed and chunk your daily life and how you're representing Jesus, your acts of God. That is correct. You know, that he wants to do in your life, whether it's at the grocery store or wherever. And we talked about that.
Starting point is 00:07:18 just because your guy lost, even if you believe that it was stolen from him. The apostles, Jace, ran up against a man-made construct, the Roman Empire, and the exact same thing happened 2,000 years later. Well, I want to share this. Look. History just keeps repeating itself on how people view or the lack of a view of God Almighty in heaven. It's just a pitiful thing to watch all these. empires i've got them all written down i got the college professor behind well here's what i'm
Starting point is 00:07:54 sickening here here's what i wanted to say this would be a good review for you uh because you hadn't been here i hadn't been here the last podcast we did zach was he wasn't here either even though we could see him from time to time he was at reception technical issues technical issue so look here's kind of what we did in acts one this is why i don't believe this is an accident that we're going through this and and for those who who pursue godly values and want people that will put those policies from a governmental standpoint. Before you get depressed and go, you know, read Facebook and start staring at the ceiling with misty-eyed, you look at Acts 1 after Jesus, God in human form, does the greatest act ever,
Starting point is 00:08:38 which is die, be buried in race. I would call that the greatest sequence of events in human history. Don't forget. Don't forget levitating off the planet without a jetpack. That was pretty cool, too, I'm just saying. But it was in the context of they said, are we now, since you're bulletproof, you know, that would be a modern day version. Right. You're incapable of being killed.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Are we now? It's impossible for death to keep its hold on you. Yeah, that's Acts 2. And in Acts 1, they asked the question, so when are we going to restore the kingdom of Israel? It's time for us to take over the world. and we're going to follow. And with you with us, we can't lose. We can't.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Can you imagine the emotions going on? We can do anything. This is the one movement in the history of movements of mankind. I love the way Jesus phrased it. It's not for you to decide the time. Yeah, he says it's not for you to know the times. Yeah, it's not for you to know these things. Times or dates.
Starting point is 00:09:44 The father has set by his own authority. That was an ancient version of stay in your lane, human. But when he got to Acts 2, and Phil said, you know, when you started talking about the wind and the water and the fire and the annoying, Phil said, you know, I didn't know what you was talking about. But all I was saying was. Oh, you were showing the different aspects of what the spirit? It was true what he was saying,
Starting point is 00:10:09 but there was a lot of big events coming from the sources he's speaking on. All I was making a point was the first thing they said is, Are you going to restore a physical kingdom? Are we going to take over the world? And he's like, hey, I'm going to pour out the spirit. And they probably didn't know what that meant because when what seemed to be the violent wind and the fire, they're like, what in the world is going on?
Starting point is 00:10:32 But I know at some point they concluded whatever kingdom and how we play a part in it on earth he's referring to is way bigger than overthrowing governments. That is correct. And then I brought up the symbolic. the symbolic aspects of the Holy Spirit because what he was describing in receiving the Spirit is actually greater.
Starting point is 00:10:54 It has a greater power than the strongest wind. You think about hurricanes, tornadoes. This is bigger. Languages of the world, which were thousands, are coming forth from their lips. Yeah. I mean, they're not, what in the world?
Starting point is 00:11:13 And it's more needed, than water. This being poured out has greater value than actual water. And we know where there's no water, there's no life. It's greater than fire. I mean, we're taking everything on this earth that we can think are the most powerful things.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And he's like, this is better. So I said all that to say this. When you say, well, we're just going to follow Jesus. Because I have some friends who are so disappointed, pointed in what's going on in our country that when I send them the text or tell them, well, you need to just stick to Jesus and sharing Jesus. They're coming back with me like that I'm being timid. And so this verse popped into my head.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Like, you know, it's time to rise up. We got to take a stand. Help us burn it down. Yeah, let's burn. Let's use fire. Let's use water. Let's use, you know, wind if we had access. let's do something to destroy so we can do what we want to do.
Starting point is 00:12:21 It reminded me of this, there's two passages in Second Corinthians that I wanted to share before, and I think it kind of takes us where we're at in our country and where we are in our study of Acts. In St. Corinthians 10, he makes this reference. He said, I, Paul, who am timid when face to face with you, but bold went away. I beg you that when I come, I may not have to be as bold as I expect to be towards some people who think we live by the standards of the world. So that's his foundation. He's like, you're calling me timid, wishy-washy, and you want me to be more bold.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Trust me, I'm bold out in the world. That's what he's saying. But then he makes this statement that we don't live by the standards of the world, which is what I say about. what's going on in our current government environment. Yep. Then he says this, for though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. You got it.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Well, what is he talking about? The physical overthrow of kingdoms with weapons or anything else that you can farm fire. Whoever has the biggest stick. That's right. Then he says the weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary,
Starting point is 00:13:47 they have the weapons we fight with, have the divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments in every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God. So if you flip back in 2nd Corinthians,
Starting point is 00:14:09 some of the other statements that he made that led to that, which kind of, in my mind, he had already laid the foundation for this argument with them. Hang on. Let's take a break, then. In 2 Corinthians 4, 4, he says, right after he had said, if our gospel is veiled, it's veiled to those who are perishing. Because people say, well, you keep saying you go preach the gospel and share Jesus, well, what if they don't respond? Well, if it's veiled, they're not going to make it anyway. But that's what we do.
Starting point is 00:14:43 And too many, it is veiled. That's right. but then it says the god of this age small g talking about the evil one has blinded the minds of unbelievers so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of christ who is the image of god now listen to this for we do not preach ourselves but jesus christ our lord now he had said that in response to what i wanted to read here in the previous verse i'm reading it backwards for this reason. In verse 2, it says,
Starting point is 00:15:16 we don't use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly, we commend ourselves in every man's conscience in the sight of God. Which what I'm saying is,
Starting point is 00:15:29 when you share Jesus, you do something more powerful than you can do with a weapon. It can demolish arguments. It can go to the heart of a person in why they're making decisions that are not in line with the policies of God.
Starting point is 00:15:43 By the way, the message of Jesus, if you want a good example, over in Iran at this moment, there are thousands being converted to Christ. Coming out of these refugee camps, our brothers have told us about. They're seeing visions, and they see somebody that says, he looks like a double-edged sword coming out of his mouth, but they're telling our brothers over there what they're looking at, And they said, they said, he said, come here. He said, come here.
Starting point is 00:16:17 And our brothers are pointing them to him. But it's a happening going on in Iran right now. Oh, yeah. And it's all under the evil regime that's running the place. Look who runs their regime. Yeah. My last point on this is in St. Corinthians 3, right before this. I just went backwards for this reason.
Starting point is 00:16:38 In verse 16, it says, whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. You know, these people that cannot see the light of the gospel, when they do turn to the Lord, that veil is taken away. And watch what happens. Now, the Lord is the Spirit. And where the Spirit of the Lord is, which that's what we're reading about in Acts 2 that was poured out from heaven above
Starting point is 00:17:04 and made available to every human being. And the way to that Spirit is through Jesus, the Declaration of Jesus. He says, where the Lord, where the Spirit is, of the Lord is, and I love this when you compare it to our country. It says, there is freedom. There's a freedom in Jesus that trumps the freedom that we have as Americans, which is awesome. Yeah. The freedom we participate and that we fight for and that men have died for that we all celebrate, what's more incredible is where the Spirit of the Lord is, there's a greater freedom. You can't kill us.
Starting point is 00:17:45 You can't destroy us. Oh, yeah, we can kill you. But somebody else is there. The guys that went across that beach in Normandy. I'm just giving you one example. And I stood there and looked what they had to do in order to get up on those bluffs and win World War II. The guys, and they were young,
Starting point is 00:18:07 when they started across that beach, the first thing I thought was, let's see, at that time frame, the 40s, a lot of godly men in the 40s. We weren't where we are in 2020 now. In the 1940s, we were way more of a godly nation. I think that many of those young guys going across that open beach and being just mowed down, I'm going on with Jace. There was freedom, though, and that they believed in Jesus, the Son of God. If you didn't believe Jesus and the Son of God, I guarantee you one thing,
Starting point is 00:18:48 when them Landen Kraff hit and you came out of there, you probably became a believer. Well, what you said in the line used in the movie, because it's one of the best ones in it, you said the Germans and their evil regime may have had the high ground in that situation, but the Allied forces had the high moral ground. because this was a cause to take this out. And by the way, that's why we won. Exactly. And then we went right over just not far.
Starting point is 00:19:15 What, maybe less than a quarter mile, there's 10,000 graves. That's right. With crosses and stars of David out there. And the name of the states and the ones they couldn't find out, enough of them to even know who they were, it said one after the other every once while I'd see were known only to God. Yeah. because they, you know, couldn't find doubt tax. It was so sobering.
Starting point is 00:19:41 It makes me cry just thinking about their bravery. Every time we lose, you know, an election. They knew what Jason just said. They knew that. Every time we lose an election where I think it would have been better, it would have been more godly if we would have had this guy in. Every time that happens, I think I've got to get to work. Yep.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Because I know the freedom that we have via the Holy Spirit. gives us the opportunity to share Jesus, which changes the heart. You want to win the argument? You change the heart. I'll tell you win the argument. You're not going to do it by throwing bombs, and it's just not going to happen. Right. So I wanted to read this last part of 2nd Corinthians 318, after he says where the Spirit
Starting point is 00:20:27 of the Lord is, there is freedom. I mean, I absolutely love that verse. And we who with unveiled faces, all reflect the Lord's glory are being transformed into his likeness with ever-increasing glory which comes from the Lord who is the Spirit which is how it all works together
Starting point is 00:20:51 Jesus went to the right hand of God in Acts chapter 1 he poured out his spirit and now men who put their faith and trust in Jesus stood up that's why in Acts 214 Peter stood up you want a war he's going to give you a war. Hey, and if they decided in the next six months, the next six years, the next 60 years,
Starting point is 00:21:16 to go back to that and stand up for God, you would see a changed nation and it would continue on. If they don't decide to do that, they were going to get what they want. They're going to get justice. I'll say this, though, if you look at it from the government perspective back here, They would say, oh, yeah, you talking about those fellas? Peter and, yeah, they stood up all right. And then we put them in prison and killed them. Yep.
Starting point is 00:21:44 In their mind, they thought we destroyed that uprising. And I'm like, well, it's... They thought they destroyed that uprising when they got rid of Jesus, the son of God. It's over. Now we've won. It's been over 2,000 years later. And guess what? Men are still rising up in the face of opposition.
Starting point is 00:22:01 We're still here. We're still here. We're sharing the same Jesus. We're receiving the same spirit, and we're actually living in a freedom that's very hard to even express and explain. That's right. What I'm saying to the people who are listening now, join us. Join us. Love it.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Come on in, boys. The water is fine. Are you jogged a perfect illustration before we get to Acts, but let's take a break. So I thought about this when you were describing the things about the spirit. one of my favorite stories in the Old Testament is 1st King 16 through 19 and it's a story about the king of Israel's name Ahab and he was married to a woman named Jezebel and Jezebel she she was a false, she loved a false god bail and so basically Israel had been led into this falsehood and so you just had a handful of people they were standing up for you know Yahweh the god of Israel and one of them was Elijah and he basically went into three years of hiding because the situation got so bad. They were trying to kill all the profits. So he thinks this political, you know what? He's thinking like a political guy, and he's thinking, this is a losing battle. How are we going to win this thing? Well, then so he, so he winds up
Starting point is 00:23:21 doing a big showdown in First Kings 18 with all the profits of bail, 850 of them won, Eli, 850 on one. Yeah. No way he can win it. He's all by himself. And they're trying, because it's been a drought for like three years. And so who can bring the rain? The country's gone to hell. It's all over. It's terrible. Well, all of a sudden, God shows up in a big way. Fire comes down, burns this altar up, and then the rain comes after that. The people of Israel are so inspired, they take up, they go kill every one of these false prophets. So Elijah's thinking, we want. He's having that elation moment until he gets word the next day that Ahab and Jezebel are still in charge. And now they want to kill him even more.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And so this is where I think the illustration is great. So he goes out in 1st, Kings 19, he sits down under a broom tree, and he just says, you know what, I'm ready to die, Lord. You can't do anything here. These people, I mean, after that victory, and we couldn't turn the tide of the nation. Getting rid of this power structure, never going to work. So he was like, just take me on, Lord, I'm ready. So listen to this, Jay's, compared to what you said earlier.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Because the Lord says, why are you here? And he says, well, basically what I just says, depressive. Lord said, go out and stand on the mountain. This is verse 11. In the presence of the Lord, for the Lord is about to pass by. Whatever that means. Something's fixing to happen. Then a great and powerful wind tore the mountains apart and shattered the rocks.
Starting point is 00:24:49 There's your wind, Jays. There's the wind. But the Lord was not in the wind. After the wind, there was an earthquake. But the Lord was not in the earthquake. After the earthquake came a fire. But the Lord was not in the fire. It's bigger.
Starting point is 00:25:00 He's bigger. And after the fire came a gentle whisper. And it's always impacting me because I thought something low-key, God said, hey, hey. And then he tells him, I got work for you to do. I got 7,000 having a bow to need of bail. What he tells him is what we're saying to our audience and ourselves on a daylight today is there's work to be done. Yeah. I'm still in control.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Well, and then fast forward, where was that verse where it says right after Jesus was raised? He breathed on the, he breathed. Yeah, that was in John. John 19, I think. Yeah, that we just studied. Yeah. So it's the same concept. Well, what did they do after that?
Starting point is 00:25:40 He had a job for them. They could now take the torch. That's right. I mean, in my simple mind, because that was an incredible story, and I love it. In my simple... When you were describing those other things, I thought, man, that's exactly what happened there. Hundreds of years earlier, the same concept. These political constructs come up.
Starting point is 00:26:02 All these false ideologists. are there and guys is... Fiable men keep trying to take over. They rise up and they fall out. Every last one of them, because I got about a hundred of them right here. The rise to the standing up to modern era is, look, and oh, here's some of the still left. Empire Japan, yeah, they had something going for a while, but no, they went right about it the wrong way out.
Starting point is 00:26:28 They lost. Well, now the United States, Russia and China and India. are four powers right now. That's what we're down to. You say, what does it look like for them, their future? Out, not good. No, it's certainly not. Not good.
Starting point is 00:26:45 But you're basing that on a decision. The further you get away from God, the sooner you're going to crumble. Or the harsher you're going to. That's the way it looks throughout history. Yeah. What I was going to say, out, my simple mind, it shows our different personalities. I mean, we're talking about this, the weapons. we fight with and the power of the Holy Spirit and we're the most powerful thing on earth
Starting point is 00:27:08 via God's Spirit. And you thought of that awesome story. I always think when people come at me so distraught about current events or politics, or they have like a teenage daughter or son who's literally just gone off the rails or a husband that just, they're like, it's hopeless. There's nothing we can do. I mean, let's go fill our tanks up with gas. At least 10 times, somebody has called me up and said, they said you just died.
Starting point is 00:27:43 I said, no, I'm talking to you right now. So that'd mean that. Well, a week ago, they said, uh-oh, you're going to be in prison for 15 years. I said, where'd you hear that? They said, Facebook. So these people get all tangled up. You wonder why they turn out like they do, Al. But I'll go to this, a movie that I'm sure y'all've seen when that movie was,
Starting point is 00:28:02 taken came out and here's this impossible situation where his daughter gets kidnapped and but he's one of my all time favorite man of skills but i've always looked at that like even though it was a made-up situation a movie and he pulled it off i think that that in my mind when things look horrible and people are so irate i just envision god being the leam nison of that kind of conversation saying, hey, I possess a certain amount of skills that I will hunt you down. Do you remember? I will find you. Whatever the situation.
Starting point is 00:28:45 And when I hear that verse, it says we don't use the weapons that the world uses. We have a different skill set in God as our father. And do you remember, I love it? Because you remember what she said when he shot the sheet right between the eyes? and she looked and she saw it was him and she said you came you came for me and he said I told you I would I mean I love that lie because it's like that's of course I mean how would I not get my child this is what I do now the problem with that movie is it was made up and somebody but no to your theory it was back on a biblical principle they were just
Starting point is 00:29:24 emulating the power of God and him seeking individuals and oh he's going to get it done And he, when you throw in the, the possibilities that he has when he doesn't have to go by the legal requirements of Earth's gravitational pull or thermodynamics, whatever you want to throw out there, I mean, we should never be that depressed about anything that happens in any kind of governmental situation. I mean, look, we've all been in situations. well, I know Al and I have on mission trips, where it was frowned upon, and I say that as a bad joke, that you share Jesus publicly. And, you know, I took a swallow,
Starting point is 00:30:11 and I said a prayer and thought, I could get thrown in prison for this, you know, when I was in the Ukraine, because they came to our dorm and said, shut it down. So we were like, oh, okay, yeah, don't worry about it. And then we're like, we need to move locations tomorrow. I mean, we weren't going to shut it down.
Starting point is 00:30:26 I had a stone, I think he was, stone, Muslim guy jump up on the stage that I was preaching from an African. Now all these people in front of me, a bunch of people sitting behind me, and he started just yelling and screaming, and why he tries to come around,
Starting point is 00:30:42 but his eyes are glassy, is why I think he was stone. And it was amazing, Jay's, because I'm here for all these people, I keep waiting for somebody, like, to step forward and get this guy out of here, and nobody makes a move. So I don't know if it's because I'm a Christian or just a stubborn American, but I looked at him. I said, oh, ho, ho, ho.
Starting point is 00:30:58 are you see all these people out here? They're listening to this. I'll talk to you, but not right now. You go right up there and stand by that tree, and I'll talk to you when this is over. I mean, I just took charge like I was the Navy SEAL. And it's so funny, he looked at me, and he just hopped down off the thing
Starting point is 00:31:14 and went over there and sat out another tree until it was over. And then I just went back to preach. Now, inside, I was liquid jello, because I thought, is this guy going to kill me? What's going to happen? It was funny in that moment. It was a Holy Spirit moment or something. And it was just no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:31:30 You go sit over there. You're not going to interrupt me from preaching. Well, I told you all, when I went on my trip to Israel, I shared this in another podcast. But when we went to that church in Bethlehem, where it's on the other, in the Palestine controlled, you know, everybody from Israel got off our bus before we crossed the border. And they had the good luck.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Speaking of taking, hang on, let's take that. So we get over and look, first five minutes, you know, after they told me it had been bombed 14 times and we're, you know, we're fixed us pretty well seeing praises in a Muslim controlled environment where the preacher has had, has taken multiple gunshots to the chest and lost family members. And his church had been firebond, what's? 14 times. 14 times. And there's buckets of water down the aisles. And I'm like, what's that for? They're like, that's in case they throw a cocktail over the wall back there.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I mean, this was a, and I, look, I was, and I could tell Missy was looking at me, glancing back and forth, and, you know, I had this, what are we doing? You know what I mean? I mean, look, are we sure this is a good idea? I'm prepared to die, but why right now? But, you know, when I heard this, this brother get up and preach, he didn't preach, you know, he didn't have five points about living in a Muslim world. He preached verbatim pretty much Acts chapter 2. He declared who Jesus was. And I just thought, what am I?
Starting point is 00:33:12 What am I doing? And so after the service, look, this just shows you how we still have moments of weakness. Because then we gathered together. Now I'm ready to run through a wall. I'm like, okay, we're on the cutting edge. You took the apostle, Paul, if I joined with me, and suffering for the gospel. Yeah, and I wrote him a sizable check.
Starting point is 00:33:36 He said, what's this for? I said, I just feel like you need this more than I do at this moment. Get you some bulletproof vests, but I made a joke about it, you know, but he wasn't laughing. Look into Kevlo. And so I said, no, where are we going? You know, where are we going there? He's like, well, I'm inviting you to eat down here. And I'm thinking, hmm, now we're going out here.
Starting point is 00:33:59 It's one thing to be in the building, but I'm like, why don't we just go back across the border? Because I felt safe there. He's like, no, it's a big thing for us to be confident and to be out with the people. He said, I'm trying to convert these people. I love it. I said, you leave. We're in. I said, well, we're going to eat here in Bethlehem.
Starting point is 00:34:23 And, you know, you would think the people were nice. No, they weren't nice. It was the most unfriendly meal. that we had because I'm looking around because nobody was in the restaurant nobody and so they're like I'll have this and he's like
Starting point is 00:34:38 no just bring me whatever you got that was kind of aware foreign restaurants after six nose I'm like but just bring something because apparently this means nothing you know it meant nothing there hadn't been anybody by that restaurant
Starting point is 00:34:53 in my opinion in days so I thought but we're out here this guy's sharing Jesus, he's out here with the people, and we did it. But I thought, you know what, there's the kingdom of God. There's the most powerful people on the planet. The people willing to do whatever it takes. I mean, it was, I was inspired.
Starting point is 00:35:16 I'm like, how dare I get all distressed because my guy didn't win? I don't go get distressed about that. We're going to talk louder. The skill sets that God provides is great. greater than all this earthly acts of power. It's very hard for just simple human beings to get that inside their head. But once you start believing the resurrection is real and you really believe you have God's spirit, you literally become the most powerful thing.
Starting point is 00:35:49 And not because of you, because of what God's doing in you, on the planet. Right. And that's exactly what happens in Acts 2. And so to sort of set the stage, Jesus has told, them to wait in Jerusalem because there's going to be this baptism of the Holy Spirit. Well, they don't really know what that means, but they're waiting. They're praying. You know, they appointed a replacement for Judas. And when you get to the day of Pentecost, you start understanding why Jesus wanted them there in Jerusalem at this time. So Pentecost brings in
Starting point is 00:36:17 all these Jews from all over the world. I mean, they're coming in. And all these countries are listed, a lot of them where they're from. And so as you said, the first thing that happens is this Holy Spirit, when he showed up, the blowing of a violent wind, it looked like tons of fire that were separating. And we talked about that last time. It wasn't the wind, and it wasn't the fire. It's just, it was the only way to try to describe it. What it looked like.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Which is what my point is today. You can take the greatest things of earth, the greatest powers, an attempt to describe it. but the Holy Spirit is clear is greater than all of that. So that's why when you read that, people are like, well, you know, I bet, boy, that was, I bet that was a win. No, it was more than that. Right. We just can't describe that in human terms, what kind of force this is.
Starting point is 00:37:15 We remember when there would be a voice from heaven or whatever, and it would usually say something like, to the crowd, it sounded like, sounded like, I mean, how do you describe the voice of God coming from heaven. So anytime there's this interaction, that's what you see. What was interesting was they're all there. And it says in verse six, when they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard them speaking in his own language. So first you hear this whatever violent wind, earthquake-y type thing happened, and everybody's in bewilderment. And then all of a sudden, these 12 guys are speaking your language, and yet they're a bunch of guys from Galilee. bunch of fishermen and all and they were obviously doing acting real excited and crazy or he wouldn't
Starting point is 00:38:05 have said don't mind them he just they're just drunk yeah somehow ever made fun of them and said they've had too much wine here a little bit too much of poppy's cough medicine going on i went to tombstone you know when he said don't mind him he just drunk that's okay i got two guys one for each of you maybe he said he's seeing double well i think that was a different scene but it was the same movie it was it wasn't ringo who was uh ringo's boss uh who was johnny ringo's boss oh you're talking about uh powers booth his character no no he was uh he was talking about he was it ain't clinton was it curly bill curly bill curly bill's power's booth was there yeah he came out there and curly bill said don't mind him he just drunk i mean thank you uh that research staff was
Starting point is 00:38:57 right on top of that. That's really good. That's good. Well, I just, I mean, when you can't explain something, they were trying to grasp at straws, which I made a point the last time, that there was obviously some excitement being poured out. Right. And later on, this would, I think, the analogy has to be addressed in Ephesians 5 when speaking of being married to Christ. He said, don't get drunk on wine, but be filled with the spirit. And they had the same impression right here. Right. These guys drunk.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Well, because imagine, let's take our last break. Imagine if you're listening, but they're not speaking your language, but then you're hearing all these people speak 12 different languages, it would seem a little bit chaotic. You know what I'm saying? So what happens is in that moment, they go to what they think. Oh, they must be drunk. I do think it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:39:57 that this is the first miraculous sign you see for the apostles. I mean, other than what they were doing back with Jesus. But this is kind of the first time on their own. And this was, but it was strictly done to get their attention because in a human perspective, I would say, well, yeah,
Starting point is 00:40:12 why don't they just, one instead of Peter speaking in one language? Because it says then Peter stood up, raised his voice and addressed the crowd. Then he just took over and he starts into it. From a human perspective, it seemed like more effective if they just kept doing it in the language. but that was only to get their attention,
Starting point is 00:40:30 which to the point we said in John over and over and over days, the miracle only points you to Jesus. Because what Peter's about to say is what they need to hear. And although you looked around in the crowd, you said, what happened to Jesus? They were showing them what happened to it. That's exactly right. He's still there.
Starting point is 00:40:49 He's still there. Yep. And yet they had to be able to see it. Otherwise, you see what happened with this miracle days. A bunch of people didn't believe it. They thought they were some kind of idiots. Look, people think, I mean, I've been accused, I've never been drunk, which God, you know, give God the glory for that. And you said a good example, don't do this.
Starting point is 00:41:07 You didn't say that. You just showed me. So I appreciate it really, though. But two times I get most accused of being drunk is when I'm frog hunting because I'm hollering, I'm jumping, I'm acting goofy. Because it's so much fun to me that. You become a child. Yeah, it's like I just become over the lowly frog. But he is good.
Starting point is 00:41:35 And the other time is when I do events at cocktail parties. Because when I get bringing my Bible, people, they're like, what is this guy? Because it's so weird that they're like, well, he must be drunk if he's going to share the Bible with a bunch of drunk people. Well, Al was an eye witness to a group we went to. We've said before we were at something next to a casino, and it was a deal. A company had invited me to speak. I said, yeah, I'll speak. And they had a band going, and the liquor was flowing.
Starting point is 00:42:13 This was the rappers, one. I just, yeah, I just got up, yeah, and pointed them everybody to Jesus, but I've never seen such a turnaround from a party to, how would you describe that? But, Dad, you've had a long history of this. that was just one of the more recent ones. The first time I ever saw you do it, I was a teenager. We were in New Orleans. And you were standing underneath a sign
Starting point is 00:42:34 that said Anheuser-Busch, King of beers, a huge sign. And doing your duck call seminar, there were about 300 Cajuns out there all drinking Budweiser, because it was flowing from the tap. And you do your duck-call demonstration. And then you're starting to put your stuff up in your bag
Starting point is 00:42:49 like you're going to wrap it up. And then you reached in and pulled out your Bible. And I'll never forget this, because I'm standing just offstage with old Dubesaw, remember he's over there. And you held up your Bible and said, boys, O'Anheuser-Busch, he is the king of beers. There's no doubt about it.
Starting point is 00:43:04 I drank a many-of-one back in the day. But you know what? I quit all that because I ran into the King of Kings. And you were holding your Bible. Oh, I like that. Phil, you need to bring that one back. And so then you... It got quiet.
Starting point is 00:43:16 It got real quiet. All the beers were going behind the leg because all of a sudden it was like, oh, we didn't have got religious up in here. What did your buddy Duboson said? So here's what happened. So you gave him a little gospel sermon just as a wrap-up. It wasn't a full-blown, but you just said, here's what changed me. Because this is way back closer to you being a Christian.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And so you walked off stage, they weren't sure whether to clap or what. I mean, you had them perplexed. You walked off stage, me and Dubes-San were standing there and Dubes-I looked at you and said, Phil, you can't do that. You can't do that. And you were looking at him like, do what? And he said, you can't mix religion with your business. You lose boat.
Starting point is 00:43:55 And I realize now, looking back, that was a test for you. Here you are a young Christian. You just made a stand for Jesus. And you said, Dubeson, did you not hear what I was talking about? The resurrection? Coming back from the dead? Living eternally? You said, I have to always talk about that.
Starting point is 00:44:15 And so looking back on our lives and how it went, if you hadn't taken that stand there, Duck Commander wouldn't have been the company it was, and we wouldn't have been prepared for everything that was come our way. It never would happen. You'd just fold it under and thought, well, maybe he's right. I have to read this because it just popped into my head, and I'm going to give the Holy Spirit credit for this,
Starting point is 00:44:35 because this fits with what we're talking about. When Jesus in Matthew 11, he said, to what can I compare this generation? They're like children sitting in the marketplace and calling out to the others, and he quotes this. We played the flute for you and you did not dance. We sang a dirge and you did not mourn. basically going around trying to fit in to the culture and then complaining when things people don't act like you're supposed to and watch what he says
Starting point is 00:45:03 for john came neither eating or drinking and they say he has a demon you know john de baptist who wow man was a teetotaler from birth yeah jesus said never been drunk uh no no greater person has ever come out of a wound. And what did they say? Well, that guy's demon possessed. Yep. It's like, well, I said, well, people accuse me of being drunk. And then, watch what he says. The son of man, Jesus himself,
Starting point is 00:45:36 referring, you know, Jesus can refer to himself in the third person if he's actually three persons. Or whatever he wants to be. The son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, here's a glutton and a drunker. Yep. So he made a deal. difference in drinking and being drunk.
Starting point is 00:45:55 And he turned water to wine. That proves that he was... Good wine, too. Some of these people just rolled over and say, oh, that's what it says. Deal with it. But watch what he says. A friend of tax collectors and sinners, which is how I started this whole thing. The weapons we fight with, we are to go out and declare Jesus, especially when we're
Starting point is 00:46:15 upset or we don't get our way or we're concerned about the culture. We are to befriend the people that we're so mad at. Yep, yep. And you say why. But wisdom is proved right by her, and where are we at? Actions. Actions. Axe.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Axe. We're back on X too again. The apostles. So if it's wise, Jesus is basically saying, yep, they're going to get it wrong. They're going to accuse you of being demon possessed and drunk, and the same thing happened when the spirit was poured out. What's the first accusation? I just take offense at that.
Starting point is 00:46:52 The greatest act in mankind, the Holy Spirit is unleashed. For now, for all mankind to be able to. You can have the eternal spirit of God greater than earth, wind, and fire. Ha, ha. And the first reaction is, oh, them boys are drunk. Nuts. It just so, it reminds me of the redneck world. I hate to say that.
Starting point is 00:47:17 But my world, you know, we're like, you're trying to share Jesus with people. and they're like, you go through the gospel, they're like, what y'all got to drink around here? But actually, you touched on it because Galilee, as we know, they've been frowned upon the whole time. They are kind of the rednecks of this first century world. These guys had a thick accent. So now of a sudden they're speaking other languages.
Starting point is 00:47:36 People just couldn't wrap their brain around it. By the way, it comes up shortly after that when they said they noticed that they were ordinary, unschooled men. Yeah. They just couldn't. That's in a couple of chapters later. A couple of chapters later, they're saying, how in the world did this bunch come up with all this?
Starting point is 00:47:53 And you know, it's face it. We still face that, that sort of intellectual, you people are rubs and you need your little religion. Oh, I take that as a badge of honor. You know, I want to say this before we close. Right after that verse about wisdom being proved right by our actions and him being accused of being a glutton and a drunkard, he then said Jesus began to denounce the cities.
Starting point is 00:48:15 So it wasn't just different people like from a community level in which most of his miracles had been performed because they didn't repent. He did all these miracles. Now here's, you're worried about the country and like, where are we going to go? Jesus was actually doing miracles. And people were like, nope, I'm not changing. That's it. You know, these people that say, well, I'll tell you what, if you could just show me a miracle,
Starting point is 00:48:41 then I would believe. No, you wouldn't. Because Jesus said, I did all these miracles here, and these people still didn't. but in his comment to him is really powerful to me when you talk about wisdom being proven right by our actions because then he makes this statement, woe to you and he names this city, woe to you and names another city, Best Seda.
Starting point is 00:48:59 And then he makes a statement that is the reason where the weapons we fight with are more powerful. He says if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in these two other cities, Tyre and Sedan, then you had to repent a long time ago. And you say, well, what are you talking about? My point is Jesus knows what would happen if something that didn't happen, happen.
Starting point is 00:49:24 That's what he just related to you. See, when you talk about the one we serve is more powerful, I'm following one and put my faith and trust in a being that knows what would happen if something that didn't happen, happen. Yep. Before Abraham was... What are we fretting about? Before Abraham was born out of it.
Starting point is 00:49:44 We're fretting about what happened. happened. He's like, well, let me explain something to you. If this would have happened, that didn't happen. But if it would have, then you'd have been all right. But you didn't respond. The redneck musings of jays. So to our audience out there, some of you are a little bit fearful and doubtful about, you know, where are we going the next four years, two years, this, that, and the other. Just remember, Jesus is still king. And the gentle whisper is, we win. We win. We win. We win. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast.
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