Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 216 | The Phil Robertson Message They Want to Cancel, Jase's Crowd & This Thing Can't Be Stopped

Episode Date: January 29, 2021

Phil, Jase, and Al have a whole lot to say about persecuting believers, those who look down on Christians, and the spirit of boldness that emerges when the culture tries to shut you down and shut you up. Al says they're coming for us, and they want to redefine misinformation and stop "this thing" from spreading. Would Martin Luther King Jr.'s message be tolerated in today's culture? Jase finds a blueprint in Acts 4 for how to respond to persecution, and he shares a recent deli encounter that drew an unexpected crowd. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? The first thing in the book of Acts, by verse three, he's talking about the kingdom, and the last verse in the book of Acts, he boldly and without hindrance, he preached the kingdom of God. I mean, what does it mean if somebody's saying it's not here? It's crazy. Look, less than 5% of the world's Christianity believe the kingdom of God's here. They don't think it's here. Still waiting.

Huh? Still waiting on it. Still waiting on it. He's going to hand it over. The Apostle Paul said to God when he comes. They're waiting on him to set it up. He's already set it up. Well, they're...

But they're in good company because the people that were there at the beginning didn't quite get it either. We don't want to jam it in their face, but we need to keep bringing that up. The kingdom of God. You're seeing the kingdom of God here. Well, you're bringing it up. Same message.

Yeah, it's here. It's here. Jesus said it was near. I say it's here. Come. Come be a party. That's the only difference in the terminology. Instead of we saying it's near, we're saying it's here.

We're showing what it came. The kingdom of God is bigger than even us collected as people who possess the whole. Holy Spirit of God. It's bigger. God is so big. The mind can't really comprehend. You start looking at the cosmos and his... Other beings.

You're talking about angels. It's the kingdom of God. We're just a part of that through his spirit. Yep. And when we, you know, Romans 8, get our redemption of our bodies, then we'll learn a little more. It's sort of like the... We were a part of the kingdom of Great Britain. We were one of their colonies.

And then they had them all over the world. They're in India, North Africa. And so just kind of the same way, as you had all these different people. And at the time, they were the top dog, I guess, in the world. Then we had a revolution and started our own thing. But it's the same thing. The kingdom is broad. But some people are just, because of all the dismal,

disappointments in our world and all the imperfections and oh no you know look who's in control and the government power and people just can't believe in all the the crime and saying that there's something anything good here and whatever and i think they get it from verses like when we read in chapter three in in and peter sermon in that verse where was it 20 when he said he was talking about Jesus he said he must remain in heaven which is where he was at at the time he had just left in chapter one until the time comes for God to restore everything so when a person reads that they're like see that's when they're going to set up the kingdom and they go through the peter at the pearly gates and i mean i i have numerous people tell me that

in jest and in various things. Well, Peter's at the pearly gate. He opened the gate. I actually, too, is pretty clear on that. If he had the keys, and it was based on Jesus being Lord, and he now proclaimed Jesus as Lord as Jesus had just left. So I come down to this. If we're all waiting for this to happen, why are we here?

I think that's a profound question. It is. Because when you read the book of Acts, what would you say, if you summed it up, why are they here in their generation? Why were they there from Acts chapter 2 all the way to the end? Why would you say every main character and person mentioned? Why were they here? To present the king of the cosmos to the world. and the good news regarding that.

Remission of sin. And those who responded. Resurrection from the dead. And those who responded were now part of the kingdom of heaven on earth. That's it.

Right. So. It will endure forever. That's why Daniel made sure in the days of the kingdom of iron. Yeah.

Partly mixed with clay. God will set up his kingdom which will endure forever. It will last forever. Because man-made kingdoms, rise and fall, rising fall. He just got through saying. The confusing part is that concept of restoration. But Jesus was very clear about it.

You were John 5, that's about the eternal connection for all of us. I mean, that's what the Great Resurrection is all about. It's about facing who you are. You're either follow of Christ or you're not. But even, look, even just make this in a practical silly illustration there's a there's part of our duck hunting fraternity that we go with every day that no matter what happens they tend to be a little negative and they're

like well you know why aren't they here why it's like it never is is perfect because duck hunting in and of itself is an imperfect mission we go every day but it never just the stars never a line, well, we go this morning, which is... We have glimpses of it. We have glimpses. So this morning, it was just overwhelming that whatever we've been trying to pull off, it was literally like it was a dream. But I heard...

And it was easy. There were ducks just by the hundreds flying around. They were coming in our decoit. The hunt lasted not very long, less than hour. But I heard Jay. as we were leaving, say, yeah, but we're going to get them tomorrow. And I was thinking, the kingdom is here. You just experienced, the kingdom of ducks just happened.

I don't even want to think about tomorrow. It's right now. It just happened. On your way back, even though the hunt is up, this bask in it. That was why we duck hunt, even though it's hard to see it. you know, the long term, in the short term, because there's always filled with frustration. That's why we like to do it.

But I was just making that illustration. People think, well, this just can't be it because we're all flawed. The world is imperfect. Yep, when God gives you his spirit, you are now a part of the kingdom of heaven. Now, granted, there's going to be an instance when he comes back where you change

to go from perishable to imperishable. So there's, well, people say, well, that's when the kingdom is really, you know, takes on its beginning. But that's why I said it's bigger than that. You know, God is not bound by time, and it's impossible for him to lie. And so when he said the promise of you getting the Holy Spirit

is for you and their generation and their generation, their generation, I just believe it happened right there. Despite our flaws, he uses us. So then they all were sent out, and there's no different 2,000 years later, no matter what's going on, corruption, government, evil, we're still speaking saying it's here.

You can be a part of it. Same response, same individual, gospel of the kingdom of Christ. We preach Christ, Him crucified, raised from the dead. You're like, if you believe that, and by faith, over and over in the book of Acts, they preach the gospel, what do we do, repent and be baptized,

and then that's what they did. And somebody says, do you think it's that simple? It's that simple, Val. It is. And you know, it's a long-term play, too, when it's your life. I had an interesting, yesterday on the podcast, I was, y'all didn't say anything about it, but I was dressed up more than I would know.

normally be for the unashamed lair, especially, you know, comparatively to coming from a hunt. And the reason why was because I was speaking at a funeral. And it was a young man, 33 years old, basically got into some bad lifestyle choices and just wore his body out at 33. And he's a kid that we all helped raise. You know, his family, they were very active at our church for a long time. And then it just kind of drifted away, which happens a lot of times. But I noticed yesterday's interesting about this idea of a forever family because when their son passed away, they didn't have anybody to reach out to.

And so, you know, because we hadn't seen them in several years. And who did they reach out to? The family that brought them into the kingdom years and years ago. So I thought it was interesting. And they were so a priest. yesterday because Mike and I spoke at the funeral and we talked about love and we talked about hope we talked about comfort we talked about what this means about God being bigger than we are about grace and mercy and all the things you would want to hear when you're in a really tough

situation and I think it's in moments like that you think we think about it Christianity in general in the kingdom of God the hard times are where you usually people look back and say we want to get this thing right. We want to get our lives right. We want to look back. And people lose their way. You know, and it was powerful yesterday because I just thought, really, it is a forever play. And that's why you got to always be there for folks. I mean, you know, people mess up. People fall short. You see the same thing happening in Acts 4, which is where we're at. I mean, it all started with a healing. And then a presentation of Jesus, a declaration, as Phil is alluding to, that the kingdom of God is here on earth, isn't it?

The Spirit lives in people. And so all of a sudden, people are threatened by this. They're still threatened by it. Yep. It makes them nervous when you start talking about resurrection, Jesus, changing lifestyle, behavior. Who in the world is that? Somebody's pulling it in there?

I had a friend one time said, get her done. So what I wanted to bring out, though, is they put them in prison, and then this, which we'll get into it in detail, this spirit of boldness comes out, as in, and the whole goal is to get them from the culture

is for them to shut up. Right. Shut it down. And it's, you're talking about freedom of speech. You would think that would be a thing back then. You would think it would be a thing now. And you have, freedom of speech here unless you're sharing Jesus at a school or in a store or it and they said well yeah

I mean you're free to do it but not you can't go in the middle of whatever and do this that's always the illustration that they use the new it is so remote from the current pervasive ideology It is so far beyond that, they're saying the poor souls actually believe that junk. That's right. They look at us as pathetic. To put our faith in a God we've never seen. We just, we have his acts, the acts of God, through the apostles and his interaction with the human race and the book of acts. He gives them one act after the other.

whether it be the pouring out of the spirit, the rays and the dead we're going to find out in a little bit, and, you know, the healing of people, and then they're like, whoa. But still, he finally had to say, you know, when it came to its own people, the Jews in Acts 2 and Peter, a Jew, gets up. They all were Jews. And Ali finally had to say, you know what? We're going to the Gentiles. We're going to the gender. This is for everybody.

But at least they'll listen. Y'all are hard-headed, stiff-necked, Stephen. They killed him. You see what I'm saying? Well, and that's when it finally took off. Let's take a break. By the way, there's always been persecution and suffering for the ones who proclaim the kingdom of God,

and things have not changed one bit. Well, here's why I think we have to realize what Jason was talking about a minute ago. what started now with this kind of latest censorship, cancer council culture, you know, however you want to frame it, is it started with obviously Trumpism, you know,

because it was all about Trump and his followers. But they've been doing this for every decade. And that's my point. And here's the latest, here's the line that they're using. That's why it's coming for us at some point, because here's what they'll say. You can't have a spread of misinformation.

That's the line I keep hearing. Misinformation. And I thought about that, and I thought, well, who determines what's information that's worthy of passing on and what's misinformation? Do you believe, when we start talking about resurrection, you know, faith and a God, he's invisible? They scowl at that. Sure they will. But you know what? They scowl at it in the Book of Acts.

Exactly. So what I'm saying is, even in the current culture, I don't see this getting better in terms of, well, we're talking about, being more free to be able to talk about these things? I mean, it's, it's been lessening in our culture for a pretty good while now. I mean, we talked about it for on college campuses, you know, school campuses, what you mentioned a minute ago. So it's, it's a real deal, just like what we're seeing in Acts 4. There's no doubt. I think there's a blueprint for how we should function here in chapter 4 as Christians, because to me, there's no difference in what was going on there and what's happening here. Very little. In verse 21, it's

chapter four they threatened them because they couldn't figure out how to punish them you know i know i know why they couldn't figure that out because they hadn't done anything wrong they were and from the opposition from their perspective can you imagine standing before god when this is all over and you literally were shutting down the proclamation of the creator of the universe and you stand up there for God. So I want to say this. For everyone who has not embraced Jesus or at least entertain that idea, you need to stop and make sure that you're not hindering the creator of the universe from doing his work. And the way to do that is to ask a simple question. What if this is really true what they're saying? Because they heard what they were saying. But they weren't thinking, what if this is true?

what if there actually is a God who was a human, and he did come down here and paid for my sins and was resurrected? That's what gets lost in this. We hear this and say, yeah, but all these people, they're doing the exact opposite. They're saying, shut it down. They're not asking the question. What if it's true?

Because if they ask that question, they fall down on their knees. And on top of that, it's by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Acts 4, verse 10. whom you crucified, but whom God raised from the dead that this man stands before you completely healed. He said, this is the kind of power that's available to you. See this dude? Y'all know him. Well, he's been healed. He, Jesus is the stone you builders rejected, which has become the capstone.

Salvation is found in no one else. For there is nowhere the name under heaven given the men by which we must be saved. I think that's what got them in trouble. When they saw the courage of Peter and John and realized that they were unschooled, ordinary men, they were astonished. They're like, how did this bunch of fishermen come in here and telling us about the cosmos and the eternally?

They took note that these men had been with Jesus. Well, since they could see the man who had been healed standing there with them, there was nothing they could say. They were like, they looked at the guy and they like, God was showing them, can you do this? They were like, well, they pulled this thing up. So they ordered them to withdraw from the Sanhedred and then conferred together. What are they going to do with these men? They asked, everybody living in Jerusalem knows they've done an outstanding miracle,

and we can't deny it. Someone says, all I need is a miracle and I'd do it. Nope. Well, they didn't do it here. But to stop this thing, I like the fact that the preaching of the kingdom of God and Jesus is called this thing. To stop this thing. But if you looked in modern day America, that's exactly the way this narrative and this Karl Marxism. in socialism and this is what they call left way they get into all that that's exactly where they are

to stop this thing from spreading and further up any further among the people we must warn these men to speak no longer and anyone in his name so you can say what you want to about the cancel culture or they're trying to stop a simple message Jesus him crucified buried and raised from the dead. And it was there 2,000 years ago, and they were catching a lot of trouble and all these apostles. Then they called the men together, Peter and all of them,

and commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. They're after freedom of speech in a big way, and nothing has changed. I love that they thought all they got to do is tell them to quit doing it, and that was it. That's how we wrap this out.

Because when we had the conversation of the revolving signs, that we now put this thing. That's a bumper sticker. Yeah. We got to stop this thing from spreading. This thing. What are you guys are part of the thing?

I guarantee you someone, some spiritual person out there will make a thing out of this thing. Oh, they will. This is going to put a t-shirt. The t-shirt needs to say, I'm part of the thing. I'm part of the thing.

This thing. This thing. I'm part of this thing. That's the shirt. Well, and look, so... They say Carl Marx? Maybe he said, no, I don't know who that is. He just said, for God.

Let me tell you about this thing. Yeah. This thing. So it's the same people, but think about it, Jason's right. These same people, they had done this same thing with Jesus. They didn't have any answer for him. Remember?

No. He stood before him. Who do you think you are? You know, you can't. If you don't believe what I'm saying, at least believe the miracles. So they turn him over to Pilate, they crucified.

they think, all right, that's the end of that problem. We don't have to worry about the thing. Which he'd already said was going to happen. Exactly. Because that's what people in charge do. First, they make threats, just like they did. Then they do warnings, which that's in there. But at some point, these threats no longer were threats.

Because that's what abusers do. They use violence and death to control nations and worlds. That's right. It gets down to who has the biggest gun. That's right. It was the biggest club. That's why the apostle Paul brought up in Romans chapter 10. Not all the Israelites, well, let's see.

Verse 15, how can they preach unless they are sent, as it is written, how beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news. There's the apostles in the book of Acts. But not all the Israelites are accepted the good news, the gospel. For Isaiah said, Lord, who's believed their message? Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message. message and the message is heard through the Word of Christ. That's all these apostles we're trying to do, and they're trying to shut them up.

Fast forward 2,000 years, and we say to the cancer crowd, all we're doing is pointing people to Jesus, what possibly the epitome of love, what possible problem could you have with that? We're just telling them to love God and love each other. what about that is you you want to shut that up right love your god and your neighbor they're like well you know it doesn't agree with the narrative see they said no no no where and you're painted as a is a is you're painted as a person who has no flexibility who can't fit into a society who's you're rigid you're trying to tell people how to live and it's so funny because they're mad and don't know why well right they're so angry and bitter I mean And we're like, we got the answer to that.

I mean, I'm not angry or bitter about anything. Are you, Jay? No. Well, I think what they did was the way to go back to that blueprint of how you respond. So they threaten them. Well, Peter and John, they went back to their own people and said, hey, we got a stir. It was a positive thing that it was such a big stir. If you want to mess up what's going on in a good way and you get people started up,

persecution is going to follow. But I like how they responded. It says, when the people heard this in verse 24, they raised their voices together in prayer to God. Sovereign Lord, they said, You made the heaven and the earth and the sea and everything in them, which is the same problem in our world today. It comes back to that question.

People say, shut up. Why? Because we don't believe God made the world and everything. And we're like, well, we do. And since your belief system doesn't have an exit strategy. At all. And they can't deny that. Just like they couldn't deny the miracles,

we have just plain rationale and logic that they can't deny. What's amazing is. Can't deny that. Hang on a, Dan. Let's take a quick break. What's amazing now you get down. to Acts 421. After further threats,

this is the powers that be an entrenched group of... Rebirth 19 first. What they told them when they said you can't talk about. Peter and John replied, judge for yourselves whether it is right to in God's sight to obey you rather than God.

I love that. That's so awesome. But we cannot help speaking about what we've seen and heard. After further threats, check this logic out, Jays. They let them go. They could. could not decide how to punish him.

Yeah. Because all the people were praising God for what had happened. For the man who was a miraculous to heal was over 40 years old. Which means that everybody had seen him laying there for years. How do we shut this bunch down? They, okay, they got a miracle going here. This guy, he's standing there. He's fine.

But they said, why do we deal with him? That's about where we are now. They look at us and they say. Phil, it's the same thing. The last podcast I brought up Tebow, you know, they'll say, because I've heard them on, you know, whatever sporting events or broadcasting, they'll say, well, you know, he's a good human being. Because it's undeniable. I mean, the guys out there helping those who can't help themselves on a daily basis, kids with special needs and this shining, I think they're calling it shining through, it was night to shine. I mean, he's taking all of these challenged young people

and giving them like a prom and putting them on display in the vein of this statement that we're made by God. You made the heaven and the earth and us and everybody in it. So they can't deny the acts, but they just don't like it. They just don't like, they can help it. You know how you know that's true? Because how many honors did he ever get? I mean, he won the highest trophy.

I'm saying how many honors did he get for his lifestyle and all the people he helps? I mean, how many, did he get the ESPN person of the year? You know, they'll off the field award. Yeah. They'll honor the one who was Bruce Jenner becomes a Caitlin or whatever, Jenner, person of the year, courage, boldness. You know, so the sporting world, that's what, and it's any of us, entertainment, all of it. You don't honor people who are godly.

Never. Only people who do ungodly things. I mean, you rarely see it honored. Sometimes, you know, you'll see Walter Payton. Yeah, there's some things that are done that they honor that is coming from the same place, an act of love. But you're right, Al. I mean, we know their family well. I mean, it's a daily basis.

of trying to make society better, whether you believe in God or not. He's actively, you know, but it's coming from this place that all people are made by God and they're special. And so he believes that and lives that. But is he persecuted? Of course. Are we the same thing? Just like us. A lot of people laughed at our little duck show until they realized that we love Jesus.

Until they got to know us. They said, well, we're not watching. You know, everybody can watch you until they find out what you believe. And then that's what they have to make a decision where they're going to keep following you. That's what happens. I think that's why that so many people did follow us earliest because we seem like normal people who believe the Bible. And they were like, man, this guy had to see somebody like that on TV.

People like to laugh. We have one thing in our favor, boys. Psalms 1. Why do the nations rage in the people's plot in vain? the kings of the earth take their stand and the rulers gather against the Lord and against his anointed one. Let us break their chains, they say, and throw off their fetters. The one enthroned in heaven, Al, this is the good news, laughs. The God in heaven.

People don't think that God's got a sense of humor. When they go against him, he laughs. He laughs. then he rebukes, he scoffs at them, then he rebukes them in his anger and terrifies them in his wrath. So you end it all up by saying, kiss the son, this is Psalms 1,

lest he be angry and you will be destroyed in your way. For his wrath, we're talking about Jesus Christ, can flare up in a moment. Blessed are all who take refuge in him, I'm taking refuge with Jesus Christ. And they go against him, you better be careful is all I can tell you, because you will be destroyed in your way. He's going to take care of business now. Well, and, you know, what's interesting about this is if you look at the timeline, especially of Peter, and we've talked about this before.

Because this is two months, this is a little amount of time from when Jesus left. In John 21, he's reinstated sort of back in the fold because of, you know, his denial of Jesus. Acts 1, he stands up among the little group of believers. Acts chapter 2, he stands up for the first time and presents, you know, in public. But that's a sympathetic audience, because once he got to talking to him, they were like, what do we do? Well, now we get to Acts 4, in Acts 3 and 4, he's now in full opposition. He's speaking truth to power. You can't underestimate the power of the evil one, too.

That's right. I just find that fascinating. That happened, Jay, it's over a two or three-month period. No doubt. Peter is rolling. It is spiritual warfare. It is. It's all to shut you down.

I mean, look, I'm going to be honest. Us studying this has inspired me to me more vocal, just in public. I was at the grocery store, what, two days ago? I'm at the deli counter. The woman behind the counter is African-American, and I was wondering, how you pronounced her first name because it was it was perplexing to me but i noticed her last name was king and but i just i said how do you pronounce your first name as she said and i said well your last name caught my attention because we just had martin luther king martin luther king

jr day day and i said i didn't know you may be you know so she's like i'm not kin to martin luther king yeah So, but when she said that, kind of laughing, like, I said, you know what I really like about him? I said, he brought people together peacefully in Jesus. And she went, mm-hmm. Well, there, I didn't realize this, but during our conversation, a crowd had gathered. Because I think one, people recognized who I was. I had a mask on, but, you know.

It's hard to put. It's hard to keep all that under a accent here. I have a bit of an accent here. When I started talking about Jesus, you know, the crowd gathered. Crowds came together when Peter never talking about. An elderly Caucasian gentleman stepped forth. And he said, well, what brings people together? And then the next two minutes, I have no idea what he was talking about.

He went through billions of years of archaeology. and we had found the missing links. And so I was like, okay, what am I going to say in response to this? I said, so you're saying we all came from the same place? He said, yep. I said, well, look you there. We agree. I said, isn't that something?

And so, because I thought, I came at it from, I'd already talked about Jesus, but he was promoting unity. See, we're having a conversation, and everybody's here. And then I just had to say at the end, I said, but you know, it's just something about gathering together in Jesus as a forever family. I'm looking toward the future because he was talking about the past. And I was thinking, I just wanted to plant that little seed. So when I turned around, I got my, I got that peppered turkey.

I got my peppered turkey. Mrs. King was smiling now. We, we, through the mass, because we mentioned Jesus, and me and her was on the same page, and this fellow, look, it was promoting unity, because he was basically, which is fine, and we're sharing Jesus,

but as I walked by, there was an elderly white woman there, and she said, that was beautiful. Did she whispered? Yeah, she whispered it. But I thought, you know, we had a moment here.

Let's take another break. So you had every group represented there in this little, Well, we had onlookers that didn't sell word. So the man was going back to the we're all one race. He was, I think he was trying to be encouraging. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But he was not doing it.

He did it from a purely scientific. Secular. It's like everything he said, I didn't believe. But his, he didn't seem mad that I had mentioned Jesus. And then he was promoting that we all came from the same place. Which we all agree. You know what? I agree with that

Because that's a Bible Because he was saying There's no sense in us Because I had said He brought people together And I think I had said something I think I use my line Like a deer

I said I'm a guy from the outdoors I said I'm like a deer And they all looked around I said I'm colorblind And a couple of chuckles You know But so he You know I was saying

All this tension among races. I was thinking that nobody did it better, in my opinion, then Martin Luther King Jr. It was great. Sharing Jesus was also, I mean, you read quote after quote,

his primary goal was to share Jesus. Everything else happened, but when you read a lot of his quotes, you really see that. Well, when you read that letter, remember Dad, you read it in the Birmingham jail. You were literally in the jail cell. I used to have a quote I carried around in my old Bible.

the one before this that was basically it was saying if i die i want to be remembered and it was you know preaching the gospel of jesus christ i have one of the brothers sammy uh get together made a little boxing had a little building down there rented yep it's where he trains boxes he trains boxes and he learned how to box and all that serving and angoloff about 20-something years that's a prison jacking but he was converted to Jesus inside prison down in Angola finally gets out so I you know I helped him get on his feet about a little boxing arena down there you know you know I help finance the the all these things they got you know but one of them yesterday that came out of that program

turned his life over to Jesus because he's teaching how to box and he's points them to Jesus so yesterday there was one there you know there was a couple of them and yeah and some guy from Florida came up because he said, okay, you got me. I drove all the way up here. He said, I missed it. He said, somebody said they sprinkle me as a baby, but I don't even remember it. He said, but I've done a lot of sinning since that had been it, that's for sure. So I just told him about Jesus, you know.

So he was one of the ones who was born again, as they said. And to both of the points, your grocery store deal, the deli counter as well as this, it's just, it's day-to-day living, you know what I'm saying? Well, it is, but this studying act, because look, all I was saying is this dangerous to do that, though? Because I don't know, you know, you could have had somebody who got offended, and you would think here we are in the Bible belt. That wouldn't happen, but, I mean, his comments were a little weird. I mean, because I literally, he just went on a speech that was way over my head.

I mean, it just. But there was no Jesus in it. No Jesus. No. Because he was like, well, what happened? But he just, we're having a conversation, and he just inserted himself, which was fine. Yeah.

But I thought about... Well, you opened the door, so he thought I'll just jump in here too. I thought about this when we read it before, you know, we started talking today. When Peter gets in his speech here, he gets down about 27, and he brings up Indeed Herod and Pontius Pallet met together with Gentiles in the and the people of Israel and the city to conspire against your holy servant, Jesus. So he gets back to Jesus. But he mentions those who were in opposition to Jesus.

But I love this quote. It says, they did what your power and will had decided beforehand should happen. Now, Lord, consider their threats and enable your servants to speak your word with great boldness. And so I was just going back to that kind of blueprint of how we handle it. share Jesus, we share what happened when we share Jesus with people who love Jesus. That's where we get encouragement.

It's like just you just now sharing about what happened yesterday. That's encouraging to me because I'm like, this is what God is using us to do. And you say, well, what about those who oppose us? Even God uses those who oppose us a lot of times to glorify Jesus, whether they

meant to or not. I mean, I feel like this fella coming in because for everyone on looking, it was a come-together moment instead of, hey, I hate you. You know, where's my turkey?

Well, you know, you're looking at me weird. I mean, that's what our culture is so sensitive now. Anything you say, what did you say? And, I mean, I'm scared to even use the phrases

in our culture. Let's take one last break. So, Jay, it's interesting, you brought that up because historically, the Bible says this about Herod and Pilate. If you study history, you know, they had been opposed to each other the whole time that the Romans were there until Jesus. And then they were thick as thieves after that. Jesus actually unified the enemies of God as well because from that point forward, they were unified trying to shut the church now. now in the first century. So it's really interesting, even the opposition, even the satanic forces unify against. So it's interesting that Jesus not only brings unity among believers, but even among

unbelievers, because that's what you're seeing today. Look at all these tech companies that are lining up. They should be competitors. Instead, they're all joining forces to shut down what they call the right-wing extremists, you know, which we're in that camp. Well, and they're just looking around for anything sensitive. Well, like you said, you know, you had a football team, the Washington Redskins, and they're like, well, that's offensive. But if you go get sunburned and say, boy, I've got red skin here, people, what are you saying?

Well, your skin's red. Well, that's offensive. Well, I was out in the sun, and I got, there was no offense. The other day I told Missy, I was like, get some of that Angema syrup. She said, you can't say that anymore. I said, what? I thought it was a person's name. They're like, no, it ain't your mama.

I never got it in the first place. It does no good to argue about which wing you're on. Because this morning, when the ducks came right at us coming up off the water, and they were flying right at you and me and stone, their right wing was on my left. they're flying right at me. Their right wing is on my left. Well, when they got past me

and they were leaving, their right wing was on my right. My point is, you can't go with the... I'd love to know what your point is, because I have no idea. You can't go... You can't label people wings

that just depends on what direction they're going is all I'm interested in. You see what I'm saying? I like that point. That's right. Yeah. Because you're just according on what direction they're going

before you get down to the wings. Well, let me say this. Because he's coming at you, his right wing is on your left. He goes past you, and his right wing is on your right. Well, here's what I noticed. Those that were coming at me, they didn't go far. Hey, hey, that's right. That's right.

So to prove your point, Martin Luther King, Jr., in every bit of his belief system, would be considered a right-winger today. That's correct. I mean, he would be canceled. He would be canceled because of what he believed. the greatest civil rights, you know, leader of all time, would not fit in current wokeism. He appealed to people to put their faith in Jesus.

All men, God said, are created equal. He's just not so favoritism. He camped out on that, and he won the day for his people because of it. He went back to the Constitution, and he went back to the Bible, and he said, this is why all men, black or white, and he was right about the entire. Why is it the redneck culture? I mean, people call me a redneck. It doesn't offend me whatsoever.

Me either. No. I hear nobody say it out there. I take it as a boost. Well, I told you where it came from before. Because there are people who spend a lot of time outside, and you get somebody on. You get the redneck.

Farmers tan, you know, saying what a heavy one. I'm not offended. No. It doesn't bother me in the least. Me either. But we're not, but we don't walk around looking for offense. That's what I'm saying. That's the difference is the mindset.

So to be clear, if we're rednecks because we are outdoorsmen, the best you could hope for is they want to be called whitenecks. That will never work. Computer buffs because computer people, I notice, they're bright white. I mean, they're so white because they never get out and get any sun. The only way they get sunlight is get vitamin D, and they take that. They say, well, that'd have to give me some sunlight. or they're not going outside.

They're bright white when you see them coming. Neck and face, just white. And world-class duck flares. Oh, they scare ducks from a mile. The last time I saw Zuckerberg on one of those shit, you know, they was doing a Zoom in, he looked like a, speaking of people inside a lot, he was like an android or something.

He was like the data on Star Trek. He didn't look like a real human being. He has become one with the command. computer. Maybe so. Well, it's The people,

I mean, I saw, we had a cameraman today, you know, a duckman or seen him young guy. Oh, so you all

got it on film even to the Oh, yeah. That's impressive. He's real pale. He's one of these guys, I think he spends a lot of time indoors.

But his name is Hunter. I don't know where it all went wrong. But what my, my line to him was because the first couple ducks that came in flared.

Well, I look down, well, he's had this camera, but his hands were real white. I said, that won't work. And he looked around like, who me? I said, your hands, you're too white.

And he was looking at me, and I thought, is he going to be offended that I said he's too white? I mean, you've got to get woke. You can't be talking about how white people are, how red they are, how black they are. When he was looking at his hands like, I can't. What could I possibly do? I said, gloves. He said, I don't have any.

and Jay threw face paint. I just saw face paint come into my vision. So I saw him over and putting it. Then it came in. I was like, okay, we can continue. But I'm like, man, let's just stick with Jesus. That's my, because everything is so offensive. Everything is on the table.

We need to change this vocabulary in the way we treatise. each other and I'm thinking well maybe we're just too sensitive and we don't realize what we have in common which is why I love what they sang here you you made it we're all under the umbrella of being made in the image of God and I also like that they stood up that when they said we can't help but speak about it I mean how could we not you can't say and I thought about that Jay's our school of preaching verse you remember it Jeremiah 20 verse 9 First verse I learned there, and I loved it.

It was our theme verse for our class, and we went to seminary. It says, but if I say, and remember, Jeremiah, unlike 40 years of preaching, zero converts. I mean, nobody was responded. Extreme persecution. This guy. I've had some dry spells, but not that long. Well, Peter and John, they're seeing some results, so I can understand why they're fired up, but 40 years and nobody's. Relentless persecution.

You got to put in context these words, relentless. I mean, they are literally just... Hiling on him. Yeah, just haymakers every day. You're offensive. You're terrible. Which is why he wrote a book called Lamentations. We'll kill you.

And then he pins this famous phrase. There's what he says. In that backdrop, but if I say, I will not mention him or speak any more in his name, which is what they've been telling the whole time. Shut up, shut up, shut up. His word is in my heart like a fire. A fire shut up in my bones. I am weary of holding it in.

Indeed, I cannot. Look, yeah, I bring up. I have to proclaim the message. I've been there many of the times. I bring up one of the special brothers in my life who's helped me, Mr. McGuigan. But look, look, I've heard that verse. I've read that verse a hundred times,

but I heard him preaching a sermon one time. and he quoted that verse. He said, with the Irish accent. But he said, if I say I'm not going to mention him or speaking his name, I can't help it. I can't.

And it just chills, like, hit the back of my spine. Even though he was quoting a verse, I've heard my whole life. I sensed his passion in his walk. He's like, the opposition is around me. But in that moment, I saw it, I saw it as hard.

It was like, I can't help it. I can't help but speak. It's a fire. I've been there and done that. Yeah. Well, that's a perfect way to end the podcast. So don't hold it in. Yeah, if you're driving down the road and you need to take this moment, say, I just can't help it.

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