Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 22 | Si's Gun Control Rant and Phil's Teal Report

Episode Date: September 22, 2019

Phil gives a Teal report, Jase talks about the gunmen at his daughter's school, Si rants about gun control, and Al tries to keep Si at the microphone.    See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX   See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1   To take a FREE 30 Day Trial of Phil's TV show and the rest of BlazeTV: https://www.BlazeTV.com/Phil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So I missed teal season the opening weekend, which, you know, y'all have been real quiet about what you shot because I'm getting the impression that y'all should have shot more than you did. I wasn't there. Jay overslep, which is a terrible excuse. I was out there sharing Jesus. I went Louisiana, Georgia, North Carolina. Michigan, Indiana, Kentucky, Georgia, Louisiana in 36 hours.

Oh, this is all in one run? Oh, yeah. Well, you didn't have much picking time then. No, I didn't. When I showed up, bam. He aimed at the whole low. But you know, it really went good. Love the people I met.

It's awesome. I share it. One of them, what's crazy about this is one of them was a hunting outdoors, hunting and fishing experience is what they called. In North Carolina, we were just out in the hills somewhere. It's kind of like a campground. And so my walk-up song they played for me. You know, they had a band and was a Tennessee whiskey.

So I was like, well, that's unusual. And so I got my duck calls out, did my seminar. There's a song called Tennessee Whiskey. You didn't know, Tennessee. No, it's a good song. Oh, I love Krista. Yeah. Smooth is Tennessee whiskey.

You need to loosen up. That's a good team. I don't listen to a lot of them. So I'm just saying, I don't think my point is, I don't think they realized that I was fixing to introduce Jesus. We were fixed to turn this into the first time someone had been, had a church experience on a Saturday, on a side of a mountain. Did the duck calls, told a few jokes, ha, ha, ha, and I pulled up the Bible, and I could tell,

I'd say a third of the audience, I could tell they were nervous. A murmur. They were like, is that a Bible? Of course, I did the little joke. I think I got it from you. That's like, you know, I know I look like a preacher, but I'm really not. I'm a believer.

There was a few light chuckles. And so I said, you know, my walk-up song here was Tennessee whiskey. I said, but you got to remember, I'm going to introduce you to the person who introduced this phrase, hold my wine and watch this I said his name was Jesus now they laughed when I said that I haven't heard that one before

I made it up but yeah hold my beer and watch it basically hold my wine and watch this Jesus had a reputation of being a glutton and a drunker is what he said Matthew 11th in his own words yeah so I'm like because he hung around the riff Ralph why because he loves everybody you know so I introduced Jesus to them. You know what? They actually

stood up and clapped and nobody left. I thought that was a good sign. Good sign. And then the next day in Kentucky I was at a church building. So it was a different kind of audience there. You know, I got up there and said, you know, anybody loved Jesus here and, you know, they went nuts. So I was like,

okay. But still was the same message. Same message. So it was pretty good. But then I'd come back and then we went till hunting this morning. Guess what? They didn't come. I was in New Zealand. one time and I was brought up Jesus who he is what he did for the human race including people from New Zealand what he's now doing interceding for us and what he will do

return I was on that topic and about five minutes into it the sound that came out of the large audience was this was the sound but there's 1,500, 2,000 people, and they're all doing this together. So I... Like a bumblebees. The guy in charge, I thought back and I said, I heard those Brits doing that

at the House of Commons. When some politicians would be given a speech to the president or the prime minister or whatever. I said, I heard that sound. So I asked the guy that put on the gig, I said, what's that? that low that low

he said they're telling you they don't like what you're saying yeah I said well I'm giving them the good news about Jesus their sins removed guaranteed to be right he said they've never this is the first time

Mr. Robertson those New Zealanders had ever heard anyone publicly speak about religious things I said are you kidding? He said no So listen, everybody says, well, that was a terrible experience. I had a table set up after the speech and the, and people were coming up.

They would look to their left and their right, like make sure no one was listening, and they would whisper to me, we appreciate what you said, but don't tell anybody I said that. So look, one after the other, they would whisper, we appreciate it. We really respect you. On the computer, which I don't have one, there were emails coming from New Zealand, and they were really open by saying, man, we thought that was great.

There was a large percentage of them that were not, it turned off at all. But I was given the impression this bunch Because of the murmur. Because of the murmur, I thought, well, they're all against hearing the good news about Jesus, but I'm here. And one of the cities I was in, the name of the city was Christ's church, New Zealand. So I said, he's been through here somebody has before me.

Oh, no. My son was just in New Zealand for a month. And he was like, oh, he had a lot of good worship experiences. So somebody's. Well, what they've done is. I saw two houses of worship as they're. call them church buildings i didn't see but two the whole time and i drove we drove but that was like 20 years ago yes about 20 plus years ago yeah but there was a couple of church buildings as all ever saw and i

was looking for them because in louisiana there's one on ever street corner but i didn't see many churches with signs out there but there's also in louisiana every street sign has multiple bullet holes in you are correct so you can't really base a book by its cover you have Well, that's more rural. That sounds like a good speaking tour you went on there. You know, it was. I mean, I hated that I missed teal season, but we've had such crappy teal seasons.

The last couple of years, I was like, you know what? I'm going to do it. And then this year, in a weird turn of events, we actually got a lot of water and we got teal. But then today, which we had our chance, we did have a bunch today that came over. But all hunted three days, and I'm trying to figure out why nobody put motion decoys

in the decoys. Because your decoy technician is sleeping late. I thought he was, you know, stone. You were gone. The boy that married my granddaughter, your daughter,

out. He can't make it because he didn't say that alarm. That's embarrassing. When I called, look, I called Saturday morning, I was like, did y'all burn them? And he said, well, I overslept.

I said, you did what? Yeah, he wasn't there. He said, yeah, I got a new alarm clock. I was like, that's inexcusable. I mean, he ain't no duck on. But look, he got an alarm clock that not only sounds like a bullhorn, but there's a deal that goes under his mattress. It shakes his whole bed when it goes off.

That's what Nan told me. That's what my daughter. It shakes the bed. Well, he, so I'm in Texas speaking, so I sent a text because I wanted to give a teal report. That was going to be my open when I got up to speak. And so I'm like, did y'all? get them this morning. I got the same thing. I overslept. And I was like, how did you oversleep with this new system? I mean, you're supposed to shake the whole bed. He said,

well, instead of turning it on, I turned it off. Yeah. That's pretty much alarm clock 101. He didn't want to get him. We're sitting on nine till, seven on Saturday, two yesterday. If I'd had Jay's as another gun hand, instead of nine, we'd be sitting on 12, 13, but we're not seeing many. I think you just gave me a compliment. That's the first one. Every 10 years you need to throw one out. And I don't know if that'd be true or not because if they don't bunch you up,

okay, I can't kill them like I normally kill them. So they were spread out. I've noticed something about you, Sa, when I'm not there, your killing percentage goes way down. You know why? Because you can't claim the ducks that I'm shooting. Si does much better when the teal light on the water, ball up, he says,

and they're not swimming. They're just sitting on the water. And he shoots simultaneously with the other hunter. He's your browns water. I have to say I'm with you. That's how I like to shoot them. Look, what y'all said is on whole water.

You're shooting an extra four choke, okay, so you ain't killing nothing. We get them at 15 yards. Negative. I'm shooting. I would cut off a foot of my barrel, okay, if it was allowable. But y'all won't let me do it.

But I'm shooting an open bore A blunderbust. Okay, so when I shoot, and trust me, I patterned all the new guns chokes. And the one that I kept, the reason I kept it, was the open board because, hey, I could kill a hummingbird, can't get through my shelves. So move a little closer to your mic, Sy.

So welcome Uncle Sy. Where did he come from? What are you doing that? Siah is in the unashamed podcast command center. Welcome, Si. Hey, well, pleasure to be here with you guys. It's good to be here. And, you know, when we start with about claiming ducks, which, you know,

Sa was on the cover of one duckman video out of all the ones we did. I mean, there were some multiple pictures of our family, but you were on one by yourself, and the title of was the art of claiming ducks. Yeah, I think that was Phil's idea. Blame your brother for that. Well, no, no. Well, hey, I understand why, okay. No, I know why.

Not only is there an art to claiming them, okay? there's a art to kill them, okay, to back up to claiming. Okay, and I got them both. So I knew we had problems when, while you were sleeping in the duck blind, we put shells filled with baby powder in your gun, and you raised up and shot twice and said, well, boys, I went two per two. I said, sigh, you sell this white powder?

We had powder in your bullets, and he said, well, they must have been defective. because when I pulled the trigger, they folded. She had three million on his right and three men on his left shooting. So how good do you have to be to kill ducks with baby powder? I mean, you're some kind of fat.

I kill them no matter what they do to my gun, I still kill him. Oh, that's pretty good. All right. Well, I was going to tell you one other. thing that happened. Friday, we went through the process. You know, my daughter goes to Westman Road. I went there at public high school. You know, we get a, they have these automated, y'all, I'm going to have to explain this to y'all because you probably don't even realize

what a picture's saying. It's like an automated phone system where the school make a recording and they'll push a button and it goes out to all the parents because there's like, was there 3,000? A lot. Over 200 students. Two and three thousand. Two and three thousand. So they're like, the school is on lockdown. I'm like, school's on lockdown. What are we talking about? You know, like 10 minutes later, give another message. Do not come get your kid.

The school is on lockdown. So I guess the parents come up there. We'll come to find out there was two armed men, you know, at the school. First is one. Then, oh, there's another one. And so my daughter, you know, goes through this process. But, and you see this on TV and the school shootings, how horrible they are. but it was weird to go through the process of what happens,

even though this turned out without anybody being hurt, except the two men that had the guns being probably thrown down on the ground. And so when my daughter gets home, you know, because they pretty much, once they apprehended the two guys. Are these students? Are these men? No. It was one 50-year-old, 50-something-year-old and a 25-year-old man.

They had like guns on, Hosters with guns. They're walking around school campus. You know, a teacher went to a coach. This was the story I got, you know, said, hey, there's two guys with guns out of here walking around. He's like, no, I'm sure you're mistaken, you know. But she just thought, no, I know what I just saw.

She briefly just saw a glimpse of them, like going behind the building. So she called the principal. It's a big school, you know, so you just don't run over somewhere. And she's like, I think I just saw two men with guns. So, of course, you know, in this place, you know, we have people with guns every 100 yards somewhere. So, you know, they got out there and got these guys down on the ground. But from my daughter's perspective, you know, they're coming over the intercom. Schools on lockdown, this is not a drill.

This is not a drill, you know, men with guns are on the campus, you know. So basically when my daughter said that happened, she was in choir. And the teacher took off because he's going to lock the doors. And she's like five of the biggest guys in their class. There's like 150 kids in that, in the choir. Like they started looking for weapons, which made me realize the natural instinct of people, when you take all weapons away from, you know, inside a school, let's say, and they say there's people with guns here, your instinct is to find some sort of weapon.

And they got by the door, which is what the kids did. So then they're all whispering and all And she said that a couple years ago The choir they had learned this song about God It's something about Mighty God And she said one of the kids just started singing it And she got her phone out Because then they all started seeing it

She said first the lights were on As she was getting her phone You know because they said they had apprehended one or you know whatever But then they said the lights all went off And they're like there's another there's two of them And so she videoed them singing this song and I want to let you

listen to just a little bit of it but because you think about the setting everybody's quiet everybody's scared because my daughter was scared I'm sure we had we had you know an hour talk about that she was shaking because you see this happen and you're like is it going to happen to us but uh

this is hard for me to hear can I hear that yeah and the reason it's dark because it was pitch black dark and the school was totally quiet, and you just, I mean, that's high school kids singing that. I mean, I'd make the hair stand up on the back of you now. My arms.

Yeah. Oh, look, when my daughter played that for us, I'm, Missy and I, we just, I got tears in my eyes. I was like, I said, you know what? I'm proud of him, you know. She's like, I didn't know the song because she was a freshman. They learned it, you know, when she, she's a sophomore now. But she said I picked it up pretty quick.

But I thought that was, you know, as bad as it is in our world, as bad as these things happened for, you know, a group of young people at a public high school to do that was very inspirational. Because what else can you do? We've set them up to fail. Right. You know, in most places, at our places, they apprehended them. Now, what they were exactly doing there is up for debate.

You know, they said they were bail bondsmen and they were on a, you know, they were looking for somebody, then he had a, his cousin's sister, you know, went to West Monroe there and they were going to check on her. But the story didn't make sense because my wife employees, you know, all these people that have come out of addictions and rough life. And they knew one of them. As soon as they heard the name, they're like, oh, he's up to no good. You know, I was in rehab with him one time, you know, this guy. So, you know, they charged them, they arrested them and charged them with whatever you can charge somebody with for walking around with guns on a high school. And it was kind of scary for everybody. But it did make me think that what I've

always said, I think we need to teach those principles of God. When they took God out of a school, they took those principals, love principals, as kind, as patient, doesn't envy, doesn't rejoice in evil, all these things that kids need, they took that out. And then when there's nobody armed at a school and they get in there with a gun, well, you're just sitting ducks. Right. I think there should be, you know, two out of three teachers should go through a training program

and they have a gun somewhere, and if that happens, and you don't know who they are. That's right. That's what I think should happen, but I don't know. Well, there's a lot of school systems that have adopted that, you know, in certain states. Ohio has a big group. It was on the news.

Oh, yeah. Talking about, you know, that all these teachers that this school are going through, gun training and they will be packing. But it seems like they're only attacking the gun. I mean, right now that is the sore subject I think in our nation about

gun control and I'm like it's not really the gun. We need people control. That's what the problem is. It ain't gun control. Gun control ain't going to stop it. You got to control those that will buy a gun and then

go and do just what we're talking about. Yeah. Go somewhere like Walmart and just start shooting people. Which could have happened. It's a people problem. I don't, after it all, the smoke cleared, I don't think that was their intent, but who knows?

I mean, you know, they, you know, we're not very, that school's not very far from, you know, the law enforcement headquarters. I mean, they descended on them, you know. Throughout history, throughout history, mankind has turned on itself. and it was a slaughterhouse throughout the Old Testament long before guns were invented. Gun powder was invented. There were no guns, but their weapons of war was sharp sticks, bow and arrows, spears, swords. Big rocks.

You know, do not murder. The text number six out of the top ten, do not murder. Evidently, there was a murder problem. 1,500 years before Jesus ever came to the earth. So what's been going on, humans have been killing each other. And the precise instrument you use is not the issue. They say they're mentally ill. The Bible says they're controlled by evil.

I think some are. I mean, you got, there are people with mental issues. Sure. I mean, look, I was driving down, coming teal hunting this morning, and I see some, you know, some reflection because you know we're always looking deer across the row in the middle of the woods well yeah i'm basically in between here and uh and town so i'm yeah i'm in the woods all woods and i see eyeballs and i'm down so i'm but i'm like that looks like human so i slow down and

there's a guy there's not a vehicle anywhere around he's he's on the side of the road his his legs are in my in my lane and his head is toward the gray like he's throwing up or whatever. But he looked up and I just kind of slowed down and thought, what is going on here? But it just looked like the light was on, but nobody was home. And it was probably drug-induced, you know.

What time of the morning was this? Five. Four-forty-five in the morning. Oh, it happened all the time. I'll say it all the time. I mean, look, there was like a thousand mosquitoes around him. They were just, just eating out. You don't walk around out here at 4.30 in the morning

in the edge of the grass. You know, especially get out on your knees. Everything hears on to hurt you. Yeah. But he just had a look in his eyes like, uh-uh. Well, we got some meth, you know, meth places out. You know, they get out of town so the cops won't bother them. And so they come out a place like this.

They cook up the meth. And so we see this traffic back and forth. And we see it because we're hunting, you know, four in the morning. We're living in some dangerous times. That's why we go around, including this podcast. reminding people loving God and loving each other should not be a foreign concept.

It should be embraced and practiced and we would be far better off any way you want to slice it. Well, that's what I don't get about it. In today's world, worldwide, after you're looking at everything going on, you know, we've tried it the world's way.

Common sense tells me, hey, let's try it God's way. Love your fellow man and treat him as you would want to be treated. Let's try that move and see what happened. I think that'd be a good move. No doubt about it. And, you know, we're going to protect ourselves. That's the missing link here.

That's what happens sometimes is I think Christians get bowed into the idea like, well, but, you know, turn the other cheek. Therefore, we are to, you know, we are to do what Beto O'Rourke says, just, you know, turn all our guns in and just say, you know, come get us. Well, that's why you got to have the, you got to have both. I mean, you've got to have the spiritual side. You know, there's plenty of verses. The weapons we fight with are not.

The weapons of the world, you know, they demolish strongholds because they take captive thoughts, the thoughts of people. And that's why you share Jesus. And like I said, you share these love principles. I think that should just be mandatory for all schools. doubt the name don't have you don't have to say it came from the bible it's just you have a course that you must take with algebra geometry it's called love and you get you take those principles i think there's what 15 of them in that section first christian's 13 and you can have guest speakers

whoever you want but this is where as we function as a society this is the best case in there at least where they hear it you know from all walks of life because i don't know anybody that can't you know on those principles. Right. You know, I read that, they told me not to, I spoke at a community of in Indiana. I think I might have told you all about that. It was honoring the firefighters and the military, but they said, we don't want you to bring up the Bible because we're trying to appeal, you know, to all people.

And some of those people may not be believers. So I was like, okay, sure. So I talked about the author, which was my justification, you know, I was like, if I was in y'all's line of work and there was a way to live forever, I'd want to to know about it. So I'm going to share it with you what I believe in Jesus. But I did that. But then I quoted 1st Corinthians 13. Love is kind, love his patient, you know,

doesn't rejoice in evil. It always protects. It always trusts. Well, then after that, the line formed and, you know, I was taking pictures and talking to people. And several people said, where was that poem that you read? I said, that was in the Bible. They were like, that's in the Bible? I was like, yeah.

I was like, well, I didn't know that. So we think everybody would know that. Right. But it was multiple people. And I thought that's why you should teach that. I know, because I want to go back to you when you was talking about the principal and the automation thing. Why would you push the panic? Your whiskers are in the mic.

Now they're all that. You know, why would you push the panic button of 2,500 parents saying, okay, you know, we've got people on campus? with guns. Well, so they wanted to let us, they wanted to let us know. And what are you doing? You're going to cause a traffic jam. Ever paired?

Well, that's what happened. The next one was, don't come here. Yeah. But you've already told them, of course they're going to go. Well, then they,

the next message was now come get your key. It was like 1.30. Now, this is kind of funny. It's really not. Yeah. It's really not, but I want to tell you what happened. Missy said the media,

of course, is out there filming it. You know, of course, you got a memory of Louisiana, around noon. it's 100 degrees in September. And they're just like trying to get the shots because Ms. said the lines, I mean, there's thousands of kids here,

and then there's thousands of parents coming to get them. And it's hot. And she said about 20 minutes into the filming, she hears a ruckus, you know, hears sirens, and they walk down. Well, the anchor of the news team, she's had a heat stroke in the parking lot. And Missy's like,

we're literally walking over the media to get in to pick up our kids. it over them because they've fallen up. Because when she came in, I was like, well, how'd that go? And she's like, oh, it's all chaos, you know. But look, welcome to our society. Well, no, no, no, but that's why I'm saying, okay, this is, that's a, to me, that's a no-brainer.

This is one of them, this is one of these things you do not do. I think in our, because of course worldwide panic. Well, that's what happened. What? It was worldwide panic. Yeah, I think the media, you know, I mean, they, they have a responsibility in this too i know people got to know and you got to communicate but somehow another this is so in our technology technology 24-hour cycle world where they run the same

thing it's like it people you know especially that those that have mental issues it entices them to do this kind of stuff you know and it does cause all this chaos i think they got a responsibility to report what happened but don't make it So it's somehow another healing. Try not to sensation it out. You've got to go with, okay, the military's got to turn. I'm like, okay, need to know. Okay.

Yeah. At the time this is going on, the parents don't need to know. Yeah. Okay, because all you're going to start panic. Oh, you're right. You're right. Let the people in charge handle it. And then after it's all clear, then in a calm and thwart.

control fashion then let it out and say now you can come get your children the threat has been neutralized it's funny hearing I talk about control you're the most out of control person I know

so I got to ask something before we get to our before we get to Exodus so because a lot of viewers may not, and people listening may not realize this, but Jace is named after you, Si. Yeah. And that's why I man him and don't get it wrong.

Well, and there's a lot of headbutting, and I've wondered about that. We get along great. We just, so how did that come about? So how did your second son come to be named after your younger brother? Well, you're real back about, how old are you, Jace? 50. Thanks for bringing that up. 50 years ago.

I turned 50. I'm baiting up a chart line catching catfish. This is a really sad story. And I'm out in the middle of the Red River over there, and I'm baiting up my line, and I see a vehicle pull up on the bank, a bluff over there. And it was Si. And Si said, hey, he said,

Miss Kay's having that baby. Talking about Jase. And I was baiting my hooks. You know, I looked up, I said, what do you want me to do about it? And he said, well, She wants to know what you want to name him. I said, name him after you.

And I just kept baiting my line. I saw him side and sideways leaving. Well, he said, now we're getting somewhere. The Silas name will go on forever, because. So for clarification, this was pre-Jesus, right? This is 1969. Yeah. This is way before I met Jesus.

So, Silas, was your purpose in going was to get that, I guess, right? No, no. Kay said, hey, go talk to my husband and find out what he wants to name this son. So she didn't. She really wanted to know what to name. But she didn't want you to actually try to get him to come back with you? No. No. No, she knew that wouldn't have an option. Okay. He's on the river. You know, her pioneer man is out doing what he's supposed to be doing in the woods, catching fish or killing something. But by the way, Syd named him. You know, Phil said, name him after me. So it'll be Jason Silas. Robertson and but I just realized it it marked him and they've been out each other ever since.

That's probably a good thing though. Because he's got a lot of my mannerism because I kept him what he was in. Well, it's been to say, there's a little more to it because actually you and Christine during the formative years. Well, I've heard enough of these old stories. Let's get out. Love to argue. Let's get out of some Bible here.

Okay, that's. Good work, man. Let's move on. That's the side of the story time is over. Well, it wasn't Cass and fell in a very good life. All right. So, So,

we've been kind of meandering our way through Genesis and Exodus. And so where we've gotten to is we got to the point of the 10 plagues. Moses, of course, has come back to Egypt. His triumphant return, because he'd been there as a younger man. Now he's 80 years old. He comes back in. He's got a few tricks up his sleeve, literally. God's giving him two or three miraculous signs to try to convince the Pharaoh to give up the slave labor that he's got with the Hebrew people.

Doesn't work. Magicians are, you know, recreating some of it. So they go through 10 plagues, which is where we left off last time. And, you know, they all had an impact the plagues did, but every time, and they got worse as they went along. what happens is, you know, Pharaoh seems to become more entrenched with everything that happens, you know, and you kind of get this idea. In fact, we didn't talk about this last time, but it starts out by saying, you know, Pharaoh hardened his heart. And then after you get about halfway through the plagues, it says God hardened his heart, which a lot of people have made, I think, too much out of that.

What's happening is every time something happens now that God's trying to show this guy something, he just gets more hardened, which is interesting because you think he would be going the other direction. But I think you see that in other verses where God allows that. Right. So you might can come to your senses. It's like the person, you know, live in complete in contrast to God's will, but claiming to be in Jesus. You know, the situation where is it first Corinthians, that's five. And, you know, they're like, you talk to this person because it's one thing to be in the world.

And it addresses that. He's like, I'm not talking about you don't associate with people. out in the world who do those things. And we get that. Jesus spent most of his time around people doing some very bad things. The difference is when you say, oh, I love Jesus, and you're just living

openly and rejoicing in evil, they're like, no, there needs to be a confrontation here. In this particular case, I don't think, of course, he couldn't have known anything about Jesus. At this point, Pharaoh, Old Testament, you say everything, Jesus at this point is hidden to be revealed way in the future.

Right. But you could make a comparison, Kim Jong-un from North Korea, the Iranian leadership. They're up to mischief and spreading terrorism worldwide. Both of them slaughtering their own people, imprisoning their people, put in these gulags. And you look at leaders like that, and we try to work with them. Right. And then we kind of make threats, you know.

And, you know, you could just wipe them off the face of the earth, I guess. We got the power and they don't have enough of it. Right. But it goes back and forth. We're trying to, then we'll sanction them. And we're trying to punish them to say, come on, just join the world community. And quit killing each other. You're trying to convince them to do the right thing.

It's a pretty good comparison with Pharaoh, you know. That's a good point. I hadn't thought about it like that. You're trying to convince people to do the right thing. basically these people are here and they are hard-hearted hard-hearted Kim Jong-un and these Iranian leadership they are hard but sometime my point is you got to reach a level of being so hard-hearted where you finally just look around and say what am I doing that that's right which happens rarely but that's the only way at some point this type thing happens in modern

modern times. It's a good point. No doubt. That's a very good point. The Bible says they come to their senses. Right. Okay. And like I said, it's just, you know, how long am I going to do this evil?

Right. I mean, there is no. When I know deep down, yeah, it's evil. I know it's evil. There is no fear of God in Kim Jong-un or the reign of leadership, in my opinion. Not the God of the Bible. It doesn't seem to be at all. You're exactly right.

Well, that's the thing that gets me about when you start reading about all these plagues, okay, like you're talking about, you would figure after two or three of them, it would get his attention and say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Because if you see, I've seen something like this in Alabama, the Katie did, ever 12 to 14 years, they have a mass,

they come out of the ground by the millions, okay? And when you see something in that number, okay it gets your attention so this is like a past it's like a big slice of her so how many did it take to get him turned around now pharaoh well 10

well it took 10 well but the 10th one was well the last couple which is what we talked about last time sort of started to get into the psyche of the people because one was darkness I mean just hand in front of your face it's black darkness several days no light

no light no no no no no And so that started to break them down. And then we get to number 10. And it was called the plague of the firstborn. And this was an awful night. And you talked about this, a good point with your, sometimes we see this in leadership even in today's world. Some people will only be changed when they're driven to their knees,

I mean, into submission. Well, this last plague, basically the angel of death was what he was called. He swept across this whole country in every firstborn, in every family and every animal family. Dead. And you got to remember. Instantaneously. All of these people, all of these people under a system of natural law,

they were all dead in their sins. Right. All of them. There was no, Jesus was not on the scene. There was no Savior. This is far, far before the good news of Jesus ever, these people are just making their own way without God and without any, what's the word, without any goodness in them.

Well, they worship the sun, you know, rock, the sun got. Remember, it hasn't been that long after the flood, and we talked about no one, all of that, you know, their every thought was evil. Right. These residue after they came back, you said, but there's a lot of evil and wickedness in the world at this point. So here, so a principle comes about as a result of this, and this is something that comes forward, and you mentioned a minute ago, Dad, because Jesus is not,

You know, we're only seeing little prophecies kind of looking ahead. That's right. The sun, we saw it in Genesis 3.50. Pharaoh doesn't have the, he hadn't heard the news. He doesn't know it all. But here's what happens in the Hebrew, you know, part of this of Egypt. They were told to do something specifically that would spare them from losing their firstborn, both in their animals and their families.

They were told to take a lamb and to sacrifice it and then, you know, take it. and then, you know, take it inside, and you take the blood from the lamb, and you put it on every doorpost of every family. And it was called the Passover, and this principle would come all the way forward to... The angel of death would see the blood. See the blood, and he would pass over. Pass over all those people. So the Israelites lost no one, no animals.

So the groundwork is being laid for the coming Savior way in the future. What time frame are we before Jesus here? We're about 1,500 years before. And so basically we're seeing this first little glimpse of kind of, we call it, that we've kind of labeled it the crimson gospel, the idea that even throughout Israelite history, there were these look-aheads, the Hebrew writer called them shadows or copies, a glimpse of what was to come.

Because when you get to the New Testament, you remember John the Baptist dad in John 1, when he shows up, He looked in verse 29, says the next day John saw Jesus coming toward him. Now, they're cousins, but he sees him walking toward him. And he says, look, the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. So he was the first one to actually say, that's him. The guy we've been looking for, all the prophecies of the Messiah, everything. And he called him the Lamb of God, which goes back to this principle of the Passover.

That was laid down 1,500 years earlier. Exactly. And the idea was is that they would always remember that there was grace. There was an opportunity for grace. And it came about because of belief and came about because of faith. Look, can you imagine? The Bible doesn't say anybody did it. So I'm sure it seemed like everybody was 100% on their faith. What if somebody said, you know, I don't think. Well, he lost your first boy. That's exactly right. Now, I don't know that anybody did. We don't read about anybody doing it. So I assume they didn't.

But it just was a matter of, do you believe that this night is going to. positive. Somebody said, the heck with that. You may be right. I don't know. But that's what faith can do. I mean, there's, there's, it's laid out, here's what's going to happen, and then you can make a decision to obey or not obey. Me and Sire walking testimonies of that. I mean, we're so hard-headed if somebody, you know, because I've said, look, this is where we need to go hunt. We can't agree. I mean, just on a little thing. I'm just saying, I'm positive. Some people said, no, I ain't

put it off. I'll look at it and I tell people all the time when I'm out. I'm living proof that there is a God Almighty in heaven. I'll agree with that. I didn't go to college for six years and take drama class and all these actors, courses, and all that. God gave us a TV show for crying out loud, and I was one of the stars in it.

That would take fine, I wouldn't say you word. you for crying out. I kind of agree. Yeah. So, you know, like you say. Yeah. Look, you got no argument.

I've agreed with you more today than I ever have, so I don't know. Well, deep down, we're pretty well rooted. Okay. Well, you're right, Sire. And I think, and by the way, I hear this everywhere I go. I'm still speaking all around the country and everybody loves different. The family as a whole, but Sye has a special place in their heart. And so I think you're right.

I think God knew, right? Because I always say that when I'm telling the story about side, I always say that, you know, Sai spent almost 25 years in the military. And so just headbutt. I asked Sy on time, I said, how many CEOs do you have? When you said, 25?

23. 23. And how many of them knew what they were talking about? No, no, look. This is so funny because look, out of the 23 officers that I served under, 21 of them tried to put me in jail. I wonder why.

I had two that actually were pretty good guys. But honestly, they are all good honest people because they wouldn't have put me in jail. Probably in reality, the two that you thought were all right, they needed to be locked up. And the 21 of them were right. So I always say when I tell that and everybody laughs, I always say, and that's how hard-ed it is. Everybody laughs and I, yeah, I get that. I watch the show. But then I always tell them.

But his head is hard, but his heart is soft and it's soft to Christ. And that's what shaped him and changed him. And that's what allowed him to be a big star and do what he does. So this idea of the Passover comes forward. And this is another text in 1 Corinthians 5, 7, for Christ our Passover lamb has been sacrificed. So you see it all throughout the New Testament. Yeah. That really it is Christ.

Even back then, it was still pointing forward. And that's why when you get to Hebrews 11, you talked about this last time, Jay's, that together with us, they would be made perfect all throughout history. It's always pointed to the cross that that was going to be the saving grace for all people. And so we see this even way back then. That's why people say, well, I haven't studied the Old Testament. You know, it's just old stories and why would that matter? You got to know where you come from.

You got to know it. It was the foundation because the cross not only did it go to the present, those who were putting their faith in Jesus, which wasn't a lot, it went futuristic to us, but it also went in the past. It was all those hearts who trusted God and said, you know what? He said to put some blood on the doorpost. Do you realize how difficult it would be to institute the Passover lamb that far in advance of Jesus, our Passover lamb?

Do you realize how difficult that would be for that to match up like it did? it's amazing. And it wasn't just that. I believe how in the world could 40 people have gotten together? Yeah. And come up with this story. It ain't going to happen. It's story after story and they're all relevant and looking in the future.

And you say, boy, was this ever laid out in advance? But he did it all based on the fact that he wanted to be with people. You know, the whole deal in Exodus, he was saying, I want to, I'm going to bring you to me. I mean, how many times is that phrase? in there. I noticed it just reading through the book. I mean, that was the overall riding principle. We all look at the journey and you think you're going from point A to point B. They're being oppressed.

God doesn't like anybody being oppressed, much less as chosen people. But he was basically saying, I'm bringing you to me. I want to live with people. So when you get to Jesus, it's the same principle. He's bringing humanity, all of humanity now, not just the Jews. All of humanity can come to me through Jesus, the Passover land, which is awesome. Here's something that'll blow your mind. So we're looking at this from the Egyptian standpoint.

They're holding on. They won't let go. So this breaks them, by the way. And finally he's like, get out of here. You know, take whatever you want. So they go and they literally plundered Egypt, but people are just giving them stuff to leave. They're like, we don't want you people here because you're the sign of death. Everybody's like, get out of here, take our goal, whatever.

So imagine it, flip it now and look at it from the Israelite perspective. You've seen all these plagues that didn't affect you. You plundered a country without war, basically just left because of what God did to them. You miraculously cross the Red Sea. I mean, literally water, walls of water on both sides. And then the water drowns the Egyptian army because Pharaoh had one last change of heart, tried to get them one last time. God drowned my whole watch.

Bad move. You see all that. and within months they're murmuring, they're complaining, and they say they want to go back to Egypt. Back to slavery. Back to slavery.

At least there, we had some leaks and onions to eat. We're out here in the middle of the desert. Human nature, I mean, is that not incredible? I mean, just a few months removed from all these miraculous, amazing things, and you're willing to go back

under slavery instead of believe that God has a path. So that's what happened. And so for 40 years, years, God said, you know what? You're going to wander around out here until this generation dies out. None of you are going to go to the promised land that I have laid out that we've been talking about for 300 years. You're not getting to see it. That's how disgusted he got with them through a lot of processes. You know what's sad is you kind of hear that same story sometime in some of these churches

or I hear these stories and they're like, you know, just nothing's going to change here for the positive until some of these people die. I mean, I've heard people say that too. And they're They're like, they're so headstrong. And you kind of cringe. And dead wrong. Yeah, but they're like, you know, we're just waiting on them to die. I'm like, that's sad. Unfortunately, the whole umbrella of Christianity

with all the various splintering and dividing and divisiveness and all, you add it all up and you say, no wonder, in many cases, when the world looks at all that, they say, that's a last thing I want to get hooked up with. Yeah, no, you can't blame them. I've always said that there's a lot of things about religion that is horrible. And the evil one works in the, what's that, Second Corinthians 11, where it says the evil one masquerades as an angel of light. Yeah, because when you put forth yourself as Jesus, getting back to what, yeah, get back to what I was saying earlier, when someone claims to be a disciple of Jesus and they live the exact opposite out there in the world,

that's basically the worst thing you can do. You think about it because you're saying, oh, yeah, I love Jesus. And then you're in your actions. You're being so hypocritical that people just make a mock. So many, Al, that we convert. They turn to Jesus. They've lost their house. They've lost their mate.

The mate's gone. Then they've lost their house. They've lost their vehicle. They've lost their driver license in order to drive a vehicle if they had one. And you say, and they're on foot, and they're on the rehab, and you're like, you've ended up with nothing. They'll come to Jesus, many of them. You say, three or four months, where at that one? What happened to her?

What happened to him? And you look, and they're right back out there again with the same old group, getting high, getting drunk, getting laid. Back into slavery. Back into slavery. But it's a difference in thinking God's going to take care of all your problems in a magic show or a magic potion that now you're going to have this blissful life when in fact Jesus said, you want to follow me, bring your cross, bring your own cross. You look at mine, but bring your own because you're going to need it.

That's right. So he was saying it is going to be suffering. It all comes back down to faith out. It does. So next time we get together, we'll talk about what. what that looked like because God had something really, really awesome planned for his people. And so to see their hearts and what it led them to is really sad. Next time we'll talk about law because the law gets introduced during this process on Mount Sinai.

And that has another huge implication. The Passover is a great implication of Christ and faith. The law is going to have a whole other implication. Now it's going to write it all down on how to operate. Exactly. And then people will trust that, which will become a huge issue. So we'll talk about that next time. Unashamed podcast,

Sai, it's always good to have you in the... Side, may your aim always be true. Thanks for naming me, Si. That got me kind of tear you out. No, just kidding. You're good, man. While they bid, Si, we've had like an intervention. It's a bonding.

I'm glad, see, that's what happens in the commands that are bonding. No, by the way, they finally... So you need to talk into the microphone. Some of our scientists have finally said, well, okay, let's look on the bottom of the Red Sea and see if we can see what we can find. Guess what they found? Bones. A lot of bones of horses, a lot of chariots, a lot of men's bones, okay,

and a lot of armament that the Egyptians had. So, you know, you can read about it. Okay, then they go down there and find it and are shocked. You're right. Listen to Uncle Sime. So we're so glad you guys were with us today. You can subscribe on iTunes or Spotify or YouTube or Facebook. And be sure and rate us on iTunes so that other people can know about the podcast.