Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 233 | The Wrong Way to Approach Phil's House, the Vaccine Is Not a Miracle & Jase Talks to Angels

Episode Date: February 28, 2021

Phil says you need to take certain precautions when rolling up on his house. Jase goes into why medical "miracles" usually aren't miracles at all. He also uses a Black Crowes song to make a point about angels. Phil tells a story about the murderers who stayed at his place. Al addresses the false belief that sin is the cause of anything bad that happens to us. And the guys talk about how our hearts are opened to Jesus. -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So, Jace, we're, I'm finally getting on the road this week. I think you are too. I have an event in Midland, Michigan is my event. And what's funny is when they reached out to me about it, they said, we want to do this event. But, you know, Michigan has been one of these lockdown, I mean, super locked down states. their governor's been pretty hard on the folks up there. And so they were like, we got to do it outside. And I was like an outside event in February.

And they were like, yeah. Wasn't it like 30 below there last week? It was. It was. And early on they were talking about earlier in the month. Thankfully, it's this week. And I told him, I said, well, look, I talked to the guy this week. I said, well, look, I'm coming.

I'm southern to the bone. So, I mean, I get cold. but if you guys are willing to do an event with everything y'all been through i'm coming up there to talk about jesus with you and so we're i'm doing it uh this friday so the the forecast is supposed to be about 39 so i don't know i guess that's like to this last we spent that's nothing i guess oh that's a warm summer day look when the when the pandemic when the pandemic when the pandemic hit i was in detroit michigan fixing to do an event an hour away from the event when the governor said no events.

So we had to disband, and I spent two days at the Detroit airport, which is really nice, one of the nicest airports I've ever been in. And when we went and got on our plane back, there might have been 10 or 12 people in the entire airport. It was the strangest thing. Well, I'm headed to Virginia. We're going to go to the... colonial grounds of Virginia in seek of treasure.

So that's all to be interesting. We're doing some metal detecting. I got invited to go with my friends at Garrett, so we're going to see what we can find. Literally, we're getting up from our talk, and I'm going to get on a plane, and I'm heading out. So I'll give you a full report. I did want to.

I expect to hear some stories from that trip. Because, you know, you're talking about where it all started. I mean, you're going back where we start with the country. Well, I told them they were like, well, where do you want to go eat? You know, when people plan trips, I'm like, just get me out there in the woods, wherever we're going, and just put me some food under the door every few hours. And then we'll, wherever we're going to hunt, you know, I'll be ready to do that. So that's kind of the loose plan.

I don't know if we were kidding or we were texting this, but I think that. That's the plan. They're just going to put me in a cabin in the woods. And I'm going to go back a couple hundred years in my mind. And we're going to turn what's under the ground upside down. So I'll give you a history of point. That's kind of the Robertson way. Because you're right.

Most people, when they do something like this, they're planning. Let's all go out and eat. Let's do this. Let's do that. The Robertson way is we'll be over here and, you know, just call us when you're ready to us for some action. Yeah. To quote a famous philosopher, I said, ain't nobody got time for that. So I did, I do want to note that on the way down here, you know, because the stock market today was way down.

So I was taking some, it's like these women when they, things go on sale and they go on the shopping sprees. I was doing that today. Oh, there's a lot of fear. You were doing it right up until we turn the cameras on, Jay's. I saw you. Yeah. It's funny. I guess you've so inoculated me and dad about the stock market now.

So yesterday when I saw the NASDAG was down almost 400 points, I immediately thought of you. I said, boy, Jason is going to be scrambling tomorrow. He's going to be, you know, selling or buying or whatever he does. It usually gives you a day to prepare. So that was yesterday. Anything I didn't have high conviction on in the high growth tech world, I unloaded. Because today, that's what's being assaulted. But you got to remember the economy is going to open back up.

So everybody, they're selling all the things that were successful during the pandemic. And they're buying things that were just absolutely destroyed, like airlines and casinos and cruise ships and all. Am I buying all that stuff? No. I mean, some of those you should already have and just hold the line. As a long-term investor, you don't go up and down. to the various fear barometer of the market. So, I mean, I'm selling a few things I didn't have high conviction,

but I'm buying some of these stocks that will be awesome in the future. They're just, they're on sale. So I did way more buying than selling. Yeah, were you up late last night thinking about all your sales and buys and future things that the economy? The last thing that would have been on my mind that would have been on my mind was the stock market and the shape it's in. No. We had a tree, tree cutting yesterday from the ice, the limb started just breaking and stripping everything from where they fell from, any kind of wire that got caught up in that.

So fortunately, the main wiring, the limbs hit and ricocheted off of them, and it held up. But a lot of the secondary wires, like Ms. Case, you got these lights out in the yard, you know, I like them out there because if you're prowler trying to get to my door, even before you get to the door, you have to cross areas of where there's a light. And, you know, so unless you run real fast, and I may miss you. you but I probably got a better chance to hit you. We got a few lights where you're just coming across there. You see what I'm saying?

Not really. Yeah, but you'd have to be around out of note. But the bottom line is, that was the first line of the fence is the lighting up under the trees. If I see you moving around out there, you need to, if you're coming for a visit, you need to wave and stay in the open all the way and you're in good shape. That's why they used to do in like in Colon, since we're going back to Colon. times. They would declare themselves, like, out in the yard. They would be like, that's right. John. That's still going on the day. John Smith from the hills of,

and they're like, greeting. I mean, my closest associates when they drive up at night, they alert me by a shout. Hey, Phil, there. Hey, I'm coming in out here. They let me know. I said, okay, the dogs start barking, no matter who it is. They bar. That's what I do. I'm looking and then whoever identifies himself is, oh, come on in. But just like to bust up in there and not say anything, no.

Yeah, that's what I do. When I venture at night, like I'll let my dog out. If my dog runs right in my neighbor's land, when I walk there, I'm like, oh, I'm coughing or I'm singing. Because I don't want the first thing to hear. Or like when I'm walking through the, woods kind of like after a deer hunt so that's thing you can do is as you approach within within ear shot you know break out with a song just as I am yeah I do it all the time when I finish a deer

hunt I'll start singing whistling that's right even though I have orange on these people around here I mean they'll shoot you so that's a good tip what I was going to say was it's on the way down here, I did hear this because I was listening. They were all like, oh, this stock is way down and this one's way. And they were talking about what I was talking about where people are buying these companies that, you know, for the economy coming back. But one guy said this and these people I'm listening to, they're definitely not Jesus centered in their talk. This is a, you know, a news show talking about stock. But this, one of the commentators, I just noted what he said, he said, the fact that a year ago we were talking about wearing a mask and the outbreak of the pandemic, he said, now we're

talking about the cure. He said, what medical science has done? And he hesitated. I thought, what's he going to say? He said, it's a miracle. And I thought, I'm glad that you think it's awesome, and it is, and we think it's awesome. Just think about what the medical industry is done in the year. But he used the word miracle, which is the last time we were together, is

my point. Incredible, yes, supernatural, perhaps. A miracle is something that happens that is impossible to explain other than a power that is not of the earth.

For a believer or a non-believer. Believer or an unbeliever. I just think we like that word. We try to find something that's amazing, and we say, it's a miracle. So how would we define miracle to help the population? Because even the people in the world are using it, in my opinion. But you're right, guys, because I would view this as a skeptic of that, because what I would say is what you saw happen has always been possible,

but there was so much bureaucracy and red tape and regulation to hold back. And again, they're trying to be safe. I get it. But what has taken years to do things if, you know, Trump just basically said, get it done and they got it done. I mean, to me, it's not America. It's awesome. Don't, don't misunderstand what I'm saying.

It's awesome that people are taking a vaccine a year. from the time we figured out we had it. It's awesome. Amazing. Perhaps supernatural. Perhaps. A miracle is a misdiagnosis of what that is. What needs to be remembered when you start talking about the miraculous.

John 18, we covered this. No, John 12. We covered it in the book of John. even after Jesus had done all these miraculous signs in their presence, the Jewish people who said, he's not the one, they're up against him, they're stonewalling him. Even after he had done all these miraculous signs in their presence, now they're looking at bona fide,

supernatural events, they still would not believe in him. This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah the prophet, who's believed our message to whom has their arm of the Lord been revealed. For this reason, they could not believe because he said elsewhere, Isaiah, he's blinded their eyes and deadened their hearts so they can either see with their eyes or understand with their hearts. hearts nor turn and I would heal them. So you get in the book of Acts where we are and then you get in today modern day and they throw that term out. Al, if Jesus couldn't do it and change their mind

by all of what he did in their presence. And if that didn't move them, why in the world would someone get hung up on if we can show them one 2,000 years later? They will instantaneously believe what you were saying about Jesus Christ. No. If he couldn't do it, who are we to say, well, we can pull it off if we just show them a miracle.

Yeah. It's not going to happen. I mean, you see that the last couple studies I had, we had, you know, some wavered teenagers that were brought to us. And Missy and I was

trying to counsel, you know, talk. We're trying to share Jesus. which is what we did but you know we felt like no matter what you say you could see that they just didn't want

to do anything that would come with a life change and I felt in my mind on this thought even I think if we had the power to do a miracle in front of them I'm not real sure that they would have still done it.

You know? Right. It was just like, don't talk to me. And who knows, you know, when you don't know people that come your way, they could have been abused or whatever has led to this bitterness and this eyes just looking through you. It's just a tough situation. So, I mean, what we did is what we always do. We were authentic. We were humble.

And we shared Jesus in the most simple form. Because I thought you may not now respond, but we're not going to burn the bridge. And there may come a time in their life that they'll come around. But I just genuinely believe that the miracle idea there was not the way God designed this. There's a concept, Jay's. Let's take a break. There's a concept that Paul brings out. I can't remember which letter it's in. I was top of my head, but the concept about stages of, you know, some people plant a seed,

somebody comes along and waters the seeds, somebody comes along and sort of harvest the idea. And the idea is that you never know if people where they are, which is why you want to be consistent in what your job is. I mean, you may be a seed planner. You know, these guys, when we look at the early church here, they were just putting it out there. And those that were seeking and had hearts to seek, were finding it. But there was obviously a lot that didn't. And opposed them

and everything we talked about. The first group of individuals, Jesus said the first kind is like the seed thrown along the path falls along off on the way to the field. It just falling off the wagon and hit in the middle of nowhere. That's like

throwing seed. That stands for the ones who are here and they hear the message of the kingdom. But the evil one comes and snatches way what was sown in their heart. We underestimate the power of the evil one when you're talking to a 16 year old person and they're sitting there mouthing off at you and I mean not or got a cold blank stare and it's just not hitting them at all. You're like see it along the path. Yeah. Jesus said

that's the one he just they cannot understand it what you're saying right. It's like the evil one has snatch away what was sown in their heart. You know, due to their point. Due to their point. decisions or I mean I think there's a combination of that going on but you're right I mean you seem helpless because you're like Jesus Christ you want a miracle he came back from the dead there's a way to live forever we're going to be God's forever family and they're just sitting there yep no emotion excitement no it's like there's literally no And I'm telling you, it's like they're almost dead. Yeah, if you showed them a miracle itself, I don't believe it would do it.

It didn't happen here. That's why the Apostle Paul said, the message of the cross jace is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who believe being saved, it's the power of God. Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher at this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? since in the wisdom of God, the world through its wisdom did not know him.

God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. Jews demand miraculous signs, and look how that worked out. Even after all the miracles, they still would not believe in them. Show us another one. Show us another one. Show us another one. And Greeks, they look for wisdom. We preach Christ crucified.

foolishness to those to the Gentiles and to the Jews it's a stumbling block. So if you look at it, a lot of them say, you're a bunch of idiots, we just keep on with it. We're like, might ought to think about that. That's a good point. I was thinking of that verse, which goes into what Al said, because that's in Chapter 1, you know, in 2017. He said, God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise. That was our point last podcast. It is true.

I mean, he picked a Samaritan woman who had a shady past to lay the foundation for what we're reading in, because now Philip stepped up after Stephen goes down at the hands of persecution and dies, to a guy from a guy who's leading the anti-Jesus movement, who later becomes one of the most heralded followers of Jesus in our history. Saul to Paul. I mean, he took, God takes foolish, bad, checkered pass and transformed through the power of his son and the power of the Holy Spirit into representatives for him, which is quite incredible. And I totally get the idea about being blinded like you were describing the people you were talking to, not being ready for it. Because I went through a period of time, you know, I've talked about it on here before, four years, where, I mean,

I was right there in the midst of everything good, and yet my heart was hard. I was just like Stephen described. I was arrogant with an uncircumcised heart and ears that would not hear, even though it was all around me. So it can happen. And until I was brought to my knees, you know, basically saw a dead end in the world, I wasn't ready. But then I was, and I've been there ever since.

So, you know, you never know what's going to take to get people there. Well, I know. We've been speaking of the Holy Spirit of. God and the power he has and his fruit and then the miraculous that he works too but if you look at it you know you say I would say you can call it Jace one way or the other but I would say it's a near miracle for having the spiritual power of God being given you a believer when he believes and when the old man dies is buried through his faith. You're like, and he

is going to live in you. Well, it's a super natural. It's supernatural. The point being, a miracle is something we attach everything that happens supernaturally. There's things that happen supernaturally. God gives us his

spirit. He forgave our past. Well, that's a miracle is something that was a sign to point to a being that had a greater power beyond the earth. We don't have that power. So if a miracle has occurred, it's just like your point about even what happens in transformation. God's the one that is in charge of the miracle working.

We're out on that. Now, he gave that power to these men, and they went around and unleashed it. And what happened? A lot of people were healed, a lot of people were impressed, but also a lot of chaos broke out about how do I get this power? Because men are men. I, I can make some money doing that.

And so, well, you don't have that same feeling about surrendering to Jesus. And that's why the miracles were always intended to point people to Jesus and to confirm the words that were written down. That was the point of it. Jason, not only that, but also, you know, they've been around, you know, for a long time. Moses had miraculous ability. Elijah and Elijah, the prophets of, oh, they had the ability to do miracles for the same reason to point people to God. So even before Jesus, he still used these miraculous signs.

Moses had a staff, and he could throw it down on the ground and it turned into a snake. Now, that's a miracle. If I got a stick and you're looking at it and I throw it down on the ground and turns into a snake and then I reach down and pick it up and it turns back into a staph, that's a miracle. I mean, that's super nice. But the purpose was the same as what you're describing. It was the purpose was to point so that you would listen to what Moses had to say because God was using him to speak truth about the covenant. And the point Stephen made in his term was you rejected Moses too. You know, our forefathers

rejected Moses, and yet you're doing it again because you reject Jesus. So it is interesting that it's kind of been that same mindset when you read the Bible about you've got to have the open heart and the open ears. That's the key. And once the charge Stephen brought against him while you're there,

listen, he said, was there ever a prophet your fathers did not persecute? They even kill those who predicted the coming of the righteous one. Now you've betrayed and murdered. him, one of the points I wanted to bring out earlier in this little discussion, you who have received the law that was put into effect by angels, through angels, but have not obeyed it.

Al, just think about what they did. They butchered the commandment number six out of the top ten, commandments they were given through the angelic beings handing them that. They just got it all twisted around in their head. So they said, we're fixing to murder this dude. Well, but Stephen said, now you've betrayed and murdered him. They were so twisted in their thinking. And without the spirit of God in them. You say they actually would violate one of the Ten Commandments,

do not murder. And they would kill the one. who wrote the Sixth Commandment, do not murder. You just think about that. You're like, good night. And you know what they finally came up with? They finally come up with this in order to murder Jesus. Anyone who blasphemes the name of the Lord,

Leviticus 24 out under the law of Moses. Anyone who blasphemes the name of the Lord must be put to death. I think it was in John where they said, Oh, we have a law because Pilots said, I don't have any charges against this man. I don't see why he should die. He said that three times to those Jews. And they said, we have a law. And the one they pointed to was that Leviticus 24.

He's claiming that he's God. That's why we're going to kill him. So we violate the Ten Commandments, number six, being a doozy, do not murder. And they felt solidly righteous about it. Man. Think of the irony of that. Let's take a note break. Think of the irony of that, Dad.

He's claimed to be God. He was God. And yet, and he came to give his life. And they said, no, we're going to take your life because you're right. We want to violate it. You know, it's interesting. You brought up the idea about angels who were there with Moses is what that's referring to. That's what's a big event.

Right. The law was being handed out. You remember what happened to Moses? He started glowing just being around. the supernatural. Well, look at this, Al. It's weird that you said that because I was thinking the same thing. Now, Phil read 753, where it says,

you who have received the law that was put into effect through angels, but have not obeyed it. But if you look at six, the last verse of chapter six in verse 15, it says, all they were sitting in the Sanhedron looked intently at Stephen, And they saw that his face was like the face of an angel, which is pretty ironic. You brought that up about. It's kind of miraculous. It's supernatural.

It's supernatural because people would say, well, how come your face is glowing? And so it's like, well, is that a miracle? No, they might think he got too close to the furnace. or you know he was in in front of the heat but if you came out there and instead of saying his face is going we might ought to back off of this thing here we need to back off his thing there's something something not right boys well right i read that to read hebrews two i referred to at the last podcast but i think we got to read it based on what we just discussed in verse two of hebrews too. It says, for if the message spoken by angels was binding and every violation and disobedience

received as just punishment, an obvious reference that Stephen was referring to in his coffin sermon. Yep. How shall we escape if we ignore such a great salvation? This salvation, which was first announced by the Lord, was confirmed to us by those who hurt him. so what are the disciples of jesus stephen included what what was their purpose they're out sharing the lord and the salvation that comes with the lord in the next verse of hebrews two explains what goes along with

that god also testified to it by signs wonders and various miracles and gifts of the holy spirit distributed according to his own will. So that was going on. So when you look at it, do you pursue the signs or do you pursue the salvation? That's what it comes down to. What are you into modern day when people say, well, what are you trying to say? You don't believe God can do miracles? I'm like, yes, I believe God can do miracles.

He has that power. And if he wants to show us one, guess what? open to it. I'm ready for it. But in the short term, and I mean short-timers as far as my life on the earth, I'm going to pursue the salvation that is in Jesus. If he wants to throw in some signs along the way, awesome. But if not, it's not going to change how I view Jesus and still a responsibility to make changes because of who my Lord is in my everyday life. That's what the hard part is. I feel like in our religious world, people want the miracles, but they don't want the life change. And there's where the rub is, in my opinion.

What do you think? I think you're right. And you, that's interesting. Once it's in you, it's in you. It's just like, so I preached last week on this text about Stephen. And it took me back to my training and to be a preacher, which I really didn't plan on doing. But I thought, I thought about Jeremiah because you remember our verse, our verse, for our class, Chase, was Jeremiah 20 in verse 9, you know, which where he basically says,

you know, I can't not talk about God. And Jeremiah was during a period of time where nobody listened to him. He preached for 40 years and nobody ever responded. They were so hard-hearted toward God. And yet his point was, I don't care. I'm not going to stop. I mean, because he's God and he's compelled me to speak about it. So I feel like that's the way we are as Christians. You know, whether we got signs or we're in a dry period or people are closed off to the gospel, we can't stop. It's in us. It's who we are. I was surprised when we first started doing this podcast.

In fact, I was rather stunned at what kind of impact it had on individuals that live in these United States of America that they would drive the distances they're driving to be born again. I was surprised that many responded. positively because I'm reading about what was going on 2,000 years ago and I'm seeing the same thing that occurred then. I've seen the same thing occurring now. So I've been, what's the word, Jase? I've been, I feel a lot better about this whole thing living on planet Earth a short period of time. You know, you're coming to Jesus or not, but I feel a lot better about it now than I did before we started this podcast. Don't you?

Yeah. And look, I want to say this. If somebody asked me, well, do you believe that you've met angels? I would say, yes. Let's say, well, that's a miracle. I'd say, nope, that's supernatural. You know, Hebrews, where we're also reading about the sign versus salvation,

it says, be careful how you treat strangers, because some have, you enter, no, let's see. Where does that say where says... Hebrews 13.1. Keep on loving each other's brothers. Do not forget to entertain strangers, verse 2. For by doing so, some people have entertained angels without knowing it. Without knowing it.

I am positive that that's happened. Because the reason I'm bringing that up is even when you go to... There's little phrases in the Bible that we take for granted. Like in Acts 8 in verse 26, it says, now an angel of... the Lord said to Philip go south on a desert road well i'm not sure that he was like oh there's an angel based on what you just read in hebrews yeah we have these moments in life and look we are to test when you're hearing voices you should test that but there's also remember that song by who is it the black crows that said you know she talks to angels and wasn't that the song she talks to angels

How was the name of that song? But when I listen to that song more carefully, oh, it's a song. Look, I got my guy nodding hair behind the glass there. He's nod, yes. Wasn't that the Black Crowes? But here's the difference. He had this girl talking to angels while she was, like, on drugs. I'm like, you can't have that biblically.

So I like the song, but I'm just declaring that. No, we're the ones talking to the angels. They're on our side. Because Hebrews 1, I think 14, says, are not all angels ministering spirits sent to those to serve? Well, the bottom line is we've entertained strangers before just to show you what life can throw at you. And they've met them before.

They decided a couple of guys, you know, they were just down there. Well, it was all right if we stay tonight, we, yeah, that's fine. Because kind of like when y'all were raised, you walked in there, you saw people sleeping on the couch, you didn't know who they were, just people coming and going. We entertained a couple of guys one time. They left our abode after about, they stayed about three days.

And when they left, they committed murder of an old woman, and they lived life in prison for both of them. but they were with us for three days prior to that they left our abode us pointing them to Jesus and went out committed a murder and so you really don't know who you're entertaining at the time it can it can cut both ways that's what I'm saying yeah so let's take another break and to your point dad and to your point jays you're right because remember Satan is a fallen angel and obviously see there were those who must have followed him, you know, his evil ways. So you've got to remember those voices, you know, the possibility may be is the evil side as well

because, you know, the good angels are impacting us. But, I mean, there are bad angels too. That's true. That's a good point. And I think to go in with how we respond, but I was just simply making points like the guy on the stop mark this morning saying, oh, it's a miracle. And, you know, oh, I've got this hit song. you know, this girl's talking to angels on her way to a terrible death of drug-induced.

This is not the path for victory. My point was the world seems to want to take credit for the sign. They're pursuing the signs and the wonders of what we get to experience in Christ. But whenever they have a situation, they'll call something a miracle, but they don't want to claim Jesus as Lord and have their life changed. They're just like the medical team are they're the ones doing the miracles, which is, you see how in their mind they're justifying. They're trying to get the miracle without the miracle worker is my point. Not saying they're not talented, is the medical field.

Yes, but I believe God gave them those gifts at birth and the propensity to succeed. you're saying that they're more miraculous than the creator of the universe, God, because you don't even believe there is a God. So I just, I was calling them out, saying, no, wait a minute here. But I wanted to read what you referenced out in 2nd Corinthians 4. It says if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. And even if our gospel is veiled to those who perishing, the God of this age, little G, the evil one, has blinded the minds of unbelievers

so they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ. For we do not preach ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord and ourselves as your servants. For God said, let light shine out of darkness, made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God. Then that next famous verse is, we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpressing power

is from God. and not from us. So granted, yes, there is a deceit going on. When a person starts making bad decisions and opens himself up to a life of darkness and the world, there are these spiritual forces of evil that move in in some capacity and in the short term make it incapable of them being cut by something beautiful and loving as what Jesus did on a cross. I mean, you see it every day. But you do plant the seed because we don't know in the short term and you never want to burn the bridge or offer up the wrong response to people,

which I would say is either hatred or throwing stones, which we talked about last time. You know, it's interesting. You brought up Corinthians because, you know, First Corinthians is, you know, it's got some really great stuff in it, but it's got some hard stuff in it, too. there's some situations going on. You get to Second Corinthians, and Paul is really trying to encourage that church. And you're right. I think if there was a word that kind of describes the whole thing, it's flawed. You know, he ends the whole thing with the idea about that Jesus' power is made perfect in our weakness.

So I love that concept that Paul tells us that, look, we're jars of clay. We're flawed. There's no way in our humanity that we deserve anything good. but because of what Jesus did, it makes us into something else. And so I think that's that living that way where you realize that, you totally depend on him. It's a game changer. I mean, again, it's unstoppable.

Yeah. Well, what's crazy is, you know, we're going to get to Acts 18 where Paul went to Corinth. And you see how that church got started, and they used these miraculous gifts that we read about here. and that was the foundation for the church at Corinth. Well, how did that work out? It's not good.

Not good. And that's my whole point. If you're pursuing these types of gifts instead of the actual indwelling of the Holy Spirit and the fruit that comes from that, what was his message to the Corinthians? When all was said and done, they were jealous over who had the miracles

and they were misusing them, and it all became this idea of being selfish. absorbed and participating in the adrenaline rush from the actual miracles themselves. And he gets down to the end and he starts talking about this faith, hope, and love. Let me remind you of the gospel. Yeah. I mean, that's what you got to keep in mind. It's not like this is some, we're referencing some other letter that's just like not

connected to what's going on in Acts. You have, God is coming. Jesus in the Old Testament. And then you have Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, well, here's Jesus. Here's the image of the God. Well, then you have the acts of God through the people that had put their faith and trust in him. Well, then you have all the problems that have to be addressed from those acts of God

and people surrendering to them. So they start writing letters saying, hey, you're way off base here, which is what happened. Drunk at the Lord's supper, too much wine at the Lord's supper. There's immorality going on. I mean, there's homosexual behaviors going on. It's just a mess that's addressed in those letters. Nothing has changed, Al. Well, what I find weird is in modern day religion, people don't connect all those dots

when they study the Bible a lot of times. They're just taking random verses out of the Bible. so this scripture without kind of knowing well this is how this here's how this thing was set up well because once you look at it from that viewpoint it's a little more understanding where you can make statements like we put our faith and trust in the miracle worker above the miracle we're not degrading miracles they're awesome god can do miraculous things the one we serve but it puts you in the right perspective so you're not out there chasing something that's not going to make your life better or bring meaning to your life we have sat down with many and they say what do you do if somebody

comes up and they said they're sick there's some kind of ailment we anoint them all we gather around them we the elders we put our hands on them that's how you and i with the rest of the elders we put lay our hands on them and we say lord we would like for this man to be healed of this woman to be healed of this ailment, you know. And they are. We've seen them in many of them there. They're right on. They got up. You say, what about the ones who didn't? Our job is to do what God said. He said, look, if somebody's sick, we'll call the elders in and lay your hands on them and anoint them with all and pray for them. Them being healed is not classified as a miracle. It's a, because people in the world would say, well, you just, they just got lucky.

It's an expectation we have. Or people in the world would say, the medical world, performed a miracle for you. You see my point. They're going to say they're the ones doing the... I heard it this morning. Yeah. They're like, they can do miracles. And I'm like, you know what?

I don't think so. I think there's a reason that they were healed and it was God's supernatural ability. But even if he hadn't, even if the answer would have been no. Or the evil one snuffed the life out through the spiritual dark world. if you have your faith and trust in Jesus Christ, who did the ultimate miracle,

why would you be upset that you're now going to live forever and get a new body along the way? I always say the medical profession can give you a temporary reprieve from various ailments, but they can't give you eternal life. They can't resurrect your body. It's not in their bag. Nope. And you remember, Jay's you remember in John 9, when we studied John, you know, the disciples had this false view of that, you know, basically is somebody sinned and they're going to get something bad to happen to them. Now, that happens a lot. But they saw that man blind and they were like, you know, what caused him to be born blind? Was it his sin or his parents sin? And Jesus said, neither. It was born blind so that the glory of God might be revealed. And he was talking about. And he was talking about. And he was talking about. And he was talking about. And he was talking. And he was talking. He was born blind. And he was talking. And he was talking. He was born blind. And he was. And he was about he was about to heal him so even that guy I mean we'd look at that and say well that

doesn't seem fair but if God's getting the glory whether we survive something whether we have an ailment for our whole lives whether we get cancer whether bad things have if God is being glorified through the struggle then whatever it is is whatever it is I mean if you live that way about it you're you're basically you're undefeatable because you'll take whatever good or bad yeah exactly and that's why why I think when you read even like a simple story with Philip and the Ethiopian, this same narrative keeps presenting itself, which is, if I just read the first few verses, it says, An angel of the Lord said to Philip, goes south to the road, the desert road that goes down from

Jerusalem to Gaza. I've been there, by the way. So he started out, and on his way, he meets this Ethiopian eunuch. and an important official in charge of the treasury, this man had gone to Jerusalem to worship. And the reason I wanted to read that is, is because we just talked about what happened in previous podcasts when you are elevating a place of worship versus the person to worship.

And you're going to see that same thing play out here. on his way home was sitting in his chariot reading the book of Isaiah, the prophet. Now you got to remember, he's reading Isaiah. He's going to worship and Philip, the spirit told Philip, go to that chariot and stay near it. Then Philip ran up to the chariot and heard the man reading Isaiah the prophet. Do you understand what you are reading, Philip asked? How can I?

He said, unless someone explains it to me. So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him. The unit was reading this passage of scripture. He was led like a sheep to the slaughter, and as a lamb before his sure or silent, he did not open his mouth. In his humiliation, he was deprived of justice. Who can speak of his descendants for his life was taken from the earth?

Now we know, where is that, Al, Isaiah 51? Yeah, Isaiah 51, which is a prophecy from Isaiah, It's a brutal reading of what was going to happen to Jesus. His body was marred beyond human likeness. And there's a lot of good nuggets about Jesus in there about, you know, he wasn't like spectacularly beautiful. Isaiah 53. Yeah, Isaiah 53. That's where it is.

And so here's the cool part. 34. The eunuch asked Philip, tell me, please, who is the prophet? but talking about himself or someone else. Then Philip began with that very passage of Scripture and told him the good news about Jesus. They traveled along the road. They came to water, and the eunuchs said,

look, here's water. Why shouldn't I be baptized? He gave orders to stop the chariot. Now, we're in the middle of a desert. We've had a couple supernatural things happen. An angel told Philip to go. The spirit told him. Philip to go by the chariot and hang out.

The eunuch is going to worship to a place, and Philip uses all those situations, introduces Jesus. And what happens? This guy sees some water. Now, what's the significant of that? They're out in the middle of nowhere. He wants to be able to reenact Jesus' death, and burial resurrection.

He wants to put his faith in Jesus. They stopped the chair. He baptizes him, and then we have another supernatural. thing. Look, the Lord suddenly took Philip away and the eunuch did not see him again. You'd say, well, it's a miracle. It was something supernatural that was unexplainable. He was here and then he was gone. But he probably just thought, well, dang, he left without saying goodbye. But he wasn't that upset about it because, look, but he went on his way of rejoicing. And we read all this to say this, why is he rejoicing? Was it the miracles? Was it that he reached his place,

a destination to worship? No. He has encountered the Lord Jesus Christ in an intimate, personal way, and he now knows all his sins are forgiven, and he's going to have an imperishable resurrection because of who Jesus is. That's why he's excited, and he has the Spirit of God. Yep. And the interesting thing was he didn't have that experience at the temple. He had that experience on a dusty road because he was seeking and searching and reading scripture, and then God put someone in his life to explain it to it. So you're exactly right. This is exactly what we do today.

That's lifestyle. That's living. It would never would have happened if Philip wouldn't have been open to the Holy Spirit to go where he told him to go, to go stand by the chair, to listen, to do all these things. So I find that that mission, that part of what we do, still goes on to this very day. It's what we described. So the bottom line is. By the way, there was a little teleporting going on there. I like it.

The Spirit of the Lord took it. him away, I'm like, that would have been worth seeing and he appeared 20 miles away in a Zodas or something. Yeah. But Phil, so what do you deduct from this story? Do you go out to the modern world and try to give lectures on teleportation and understanding the miraculous? Or do you go out there and share Jesus and watch the transformation of people who surrender

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