Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 234 | Phil Gives Out His Address on TV, When Miss Kay Decided to Marry Phil & Fake Power Couples

Episode Date: March 1, 2021

Phil recalls the surprise when he gave his address out on national television. Phil, Jase, and Al tell the stories of their very first encounters with their wives, and Phil remembers Miss Kay making the first move. Jase wants to redefine the term "power couple" after hearing Al's sermon. Phil explains what couples have to do to become true power couples. And the guys talk about Priscilla and Aquila's marriage. -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? It's good to be back. This is, I guess, one of my ideas on what we should talk about today because I heard Al preach. When did you preach this? A couple weeks ago. And I was watching it online. And I think you were like 23 minutes into your sermon. and then the stream froze. So I didn't get the conclusion. You did a lesson on power couples.

And when you think power couple, what's you talking about? In the husband-wife relationship, especially those who have both put their hope and trust in Jesus, it's a powerful thing. It's a powerful union for the Lord. I thought it was fantastic. and Missy and I were watching it and she's like

I can't believe we can't see the end because we're just sitting there it's just a frozen look and I said I will guarantee you that this had a happy ending I didn't know that I didn't know that I wasn't aware that it froze up but that's like watching a movie

and getting down to the climatic scene and then all of a sudden the movie goes, that's what happened. Exactly. There was a movie we were watching. What movie? Were you with us that night that we were at the movies? I think it was the first time we watched Star Wars.

And we got to like 10 minutes before the end and the literal tape froze. Lights come on and then they say the tape roll, or whatever broke. Of course, it was back in the age of the time where I actually think we had a role going now with young people today are like, well, what is that? Kind of like a phone mounted to the wall.

People look at that like, it's just so barbaric that you had to be trapped. And that's all I have. That says a lot about you, Phil. I never thought of myself as being barbaric. but maybe a little dose from time to time Phil, every time you're at your house and the phone rings

and you get up and go over there and answer it, I laugh. You do? Yes. Well, especially you ought to laugh when I look down there and I said, I've never seen that number before. I don't.

But you're still living in a... I have about five numbers that I will respond to, but beyond that, now someone, you know, a lot of people, you know, this is so-and-so from, you know, you know, you know, Houston, Texas, and here's what they, I'm like, I'm not missing out on a lot of stuff. No, you are.

Look, Phil, now you just think about how the world has changed. People will say, what is your phone number? And I'm like, I don't know. I don't know my own phone number. Because it's everything now is, is personable. It's a, it's a contact. You know no one's number. I was like, if you told me, what is your phone number?

I have no idea. I'd have to look it up on my phone. I don't know what my phone number is. Well, you should know because you're still dealing in numbers. You're looking at numbers. Yeah. One of them is, well,

don't be giving your phone number. Right. Yeah. Which, it's like that time we were on that show. Talking about it is defeating it right in front of me. Phil gave his address at some morning show we were on and people started showing up. Phil's like,

I don't know why these people were showing up. I was like, well, you gave your address on a, on a national show. Yeah, I know. It was that episode we were talking about the other day when y'all did the carrot thing with the guy that protested. He just said it. He was just talking about down at the end of my road. He gave his address.

And I remember Kimmel being so shocked that he gave his address out on television. He was like, you just gave your address. The quest for fame for some, they, they are. bound and determined to be famous. And when it finally arrives, I'm sorry, but what little fame I have, but I'm telling you, it can turn into a real big hassle. I don't want to be unkind to my neighbor, but I'm just saying fame is not all that's cracked up to be.

Yeah. Well, look, I go back to when we, day one, which we've shared this in all our speeches and on the road and there was a moment where we heard the cinematographer for our show on day one of filming because we filmed for Duck Dynasty what five years 130 episodes and that when you factor in the year before the planning and I guess the year after I mean we're talking the seven year run on day one the cinematographer who became one of our best friends and was the only person who stayed the entire series of the of the crew that worked on the ground a lovely guy he uh he whispered to another guy he said it seems like such a sweet family i hate what this

tv show is going to do to him and when i heard that i thought you haven't met my family and and i wasn't saying that arrogantly but this whole idea of what you did in your sermon and you use couples that we're going to discuss in the book of acts good and bad is that our family is is in my opinion made up of power couples built by God. I mean, when I look at you and Ms. K and you and Lisa and me and my wife and Willie and Corey and Jeff and Jessica, who am I leaving out here? I covered them. Yeah. These are these are unions. I mean, I haven't, I've been courageous in saying that I married my wife. Well, let me rephrase that. She said yes, because I really didn't have a, have a chance here based solely on my love for Jesus, you know, and her.

But that's what drew her, because when you look at how we are relatable, we were like the couple. you showed a video in your sermon of one of my good friends, Chad Johnson and his wife Debbie. And what's amazing, they remind, huh? We all invested deeply into Chad and Debbie, all of us.

And what's crazy is that when they shared their story through that video, it was real bumpy because they had nothing in common. They're a lot like Ms. and I, where he's a rough and tumble outdoorsman. and, you know, she's this beautiful, classy woman. And now, and when they were apart from Jesus, they both, you know, had their baggage that they were sharing for the world.

And all of a sudden, you know, as they grow closer to God, they grow closer to each other and they put the time in, the dedication, the perseverance, and eventually they became outward focused together. My wife and I have done the same thing, because that's the ultimate way of overcoming your past and your baggage is through the power of Jesus and the Holy Spirit. You become able to help others who's done the same mistakes you made. So we got right to the end where they had started this transformation house thrift type store

where they're helping literally hundreds of people get to know Jesus and escape their past. then the tape stop. Well, if you try to reach millions, in our case, billions, probably along the way, if that becomes a reality, people are going to know that's what you're on the earth bar. I will say this about y'all's mother. She told me this about, oh, no, a couple of months ago, I was sitting there and she was talking

and she said she said the first time I saw you and she told me she said you were walking along with Ronnie Fester van and y'all were laughing at something y'all kind of laughed when you were walking but she said when I watched you walk by the first time I saw you

she said that is the one I want to be married to that one right there I said are you kidding she said when I saw you walk by the first time I saw you she said I said to myself I want that man right there that's the one I'm going to marry I'm like good night miss Kay I said I didn't realize that she said from the first moment I saw you and I thought well good night that's quite the story right there a couple years into that she probably thought what was I thinking yeah that plus the girl that lined up the first time I ever even looked at her

We've got a pretty big high school here, 125 seniors probably, and about that many right now. She was a year younger than I was, so I hadn't even noticed the girl. But then months went by, a year went by, and then some girl came up and said,

Kay Careway wants to walk you off the football field. I'm like, who? She said, Kay Careway, I said, yeah, I think I know her. And she told me, you know, she's from Ida and I said one of the cheerleaders I said yeah I know her I said yeah that's good that's good no problem so your first date was a walk off the football walk off the football field in other words from the time she said I want to marry that man

about a six months goes by football season and all this then she makes the move saying tell him I want to walk him out the football field so she's moving on she says I want him to be my man yeah so but I don't know that I mean I didn't know I didn't see her and say, I got to have that woman right there. No. But she was worth of the feel, you know, and the rest is history. That's interesting. I didn't know.

It is. I didn't know that was your first encounter. For all the audience, that's the way that little coming together came. As Lisa and I were the exact same, I was in the eighth grade at Pinecrest. I was new because we just left OCS. You quit teaching. You started the company. I was in eighth grade.

Jace was probably about the second or third grade. And, you know, a new kid. in a small school, you kind of become the it factor because you're new, you know, because they all been going there for eight years. So I roll in, you know, Rico Suave. And so, you know, I kind of took the place by storm. I was Mr. Pinecrest. I was a big deal.

You're what? 13 years old, 12? Were you a legend in your own mind in the eighth grade? Yeah, I was about it. I was about 12, dad. And so Lisa is there. She's in the sixth grade. She'll tell you this.

She was on five years. as soon as she saw me she was like that's the man i want to be with exact same thing well my well here's mine i didn't we didn't we didn't plan to do this back up on this right now since we're talking about i never viewed us i never heard the term ever until you just said it that he gave a sermon on power couples oh that's why i said al we we must do this for the podcast i've never thought of myself and miss k as power couples you're a God-powered couple. Yeah.

God has turned you into a power. I never thought about that out, and you're my son. I gave her sermon on it, but I never thought about it. Well, the foundation was Priscilla and Aquila, which I don't want to step. I want you to give your lesson or we can talk about it, but I did want to share my experience. My was a little different. I've shared it before. It's a little bit in the strange and supernatural category, but we visit.

I'm so shocked you would be in the strange category because you're on the strange. Y'all are given your first encounters with your power couple mate and I'm going to give you mine. This is interesting. You tell me what you think of what I'm fixing to tell you.

It is interesting that each of us from Jeptha the youngest, then Willie and Corey, and then you and Missy and then Al and Lisa, it is interesting that one thing for sure, they're still altogether. Well, I think it comes from what Matthew 19.

That's true, the sinful years, the struggling years. What God has joined together, let not man separate. We say that at marriages, but I believe that. When I say what God is joined together, I believe they are power couples. I believe one of the foundations of life-giving churches in our world are these power couples you can call them elders you know that we tend to distinguish the man as the elder and his wife as the elder's wife but in my opinion we should look at them as power couples but to share my encounter yes let's take a break for you we visited the church where

basically we were were raised in our faith oh i think we started going there in west row when I was maybe a junior or senior in high school. But I visited there with your sister, Jan, who's gone on to be with the Lord, who helped aid you coming to the Lord. Well, she taught the fourth grade at a Christian school. And when we visited the church, there was a fourth grader that came walking down the aisle. Her name was Missy West. which would be my future wife.

And Aunt Jan, I was sitting right beside her. She's, as the fourth grader walked by, I'm in the sixth grade. I'm visiting church. A fourth grader walks by. She said, that is the girl that you're going to marry. She said that? That's what she said. I looked at her because, you know, we've had a history in our family of,

insane characters. How about that? I'm not saying insanity. Some of the characters have... Maybe a little weird, but not insane. I thought that was insane. I might have been into the insane league in one family. For a woman to look at one of her students,

she said, I teach that girl. Now, she might have planted that seed in my head. She's a city dweller. Because the world would look at this in backwards. They'd say, well, she planted. the seed in your brain to pursue this woman when you were in the sixth grade. Because I looked at her like you're insane when she said that. Well, that same woman evidently might have been a prophetess because she, you know,

that same woman, my sister, Jan, that predicted your marriage, told the guy who converted me, you convert him and he'll convert thousands. Well, there you go. He said, do you think so? And she said, no doubt about it. now look we come back i leave i forget that encounter years go by you y'all start a church out here in the woods and so we meet there for years we get we constantly had problems with the legalistic tendencies of the church leadership at that church remember don't know but now we converted many

to jesus and along the way everybody's come to the lord at that point we go back to that church where I met the had the encounter. Now we're years later. I don't forgot about all this. I start dating. Now she's a grown woman. Yeah. Well, yeah.

I mean, teenager, 16. Teenager, grown woman. And so I'm dating the preacher's daughter. We had a series of unfortunate events that led to our breakup. This girl, Missy, was friends with that girl. And we, in an immature moment, we decided to go out on a, a date. Now that it's over between you and the other girl, I'm stepping in where you're stepping out. I'm stepping in and we're going to go out and make this girl jealous because she did me

wrong. Yeah. And it's just just for fun. Yeah. And so we did. And through that, we start our relationship. So about a year into this, I see your sister, my aunt Jan, and she says, I told you. I said, you told me what? She's like, I told you we were going to marry that girl. And then a chill came over my body. And I thought, I remember in the sixth grade looking at her saying, you're crazy. And now this is actually happening.

And it did. And you're the one who's saying whether people believe in miracles or not. Well, I could have said, it's a miracle. But I thought, I've always thought about Aunt Jan as being really close to God and kind of crazy to go back to that verse in Corinthians where Paul said, if I'm out of my mind is for the sake of Christ. And she was always a bit out of her mind in a godly way. And so, look, I'm not trying to say we should go out there and start predicting what's going to happen. I just told you, I don't know how you want to characterize that event, but that happened. There it is.

Do with it what you want. I don't know if I've ever heard that before, but that is amazing that that started out. I've never heard that story. I wrote a book if you had read it. That part is in there. Our middle school, you were in elementary school. No, I was in sixth grade, sixth grade. She was in the fourth.

I'm two years older than she. Oh, my man, it's not younger and younger, and it seemed like there was some providence of God that we were, we found the people, or they found us, very early that it was going to happen. What's interesting is, so dad and I, we had mom and Lisa on the podcast, Jay, one time when you were gone, and we talked about our marriages and how similar they were in the sense that we connected early, but then we had a lot of struggles in the first few years. It was about the same amount of time. I mean, it was right around the, you know, 10 to 12-year mark of our marriages when we finally got things lined out. And we talked all about that. Because I was a haven't until I was 28. So just think about it.

The odds were against us if you're going to live that way. But, well, obviously, mom had a deep commitment. And then when she found Christ, that eventually between her and Jan and Bill Smith, we talked about, eventually led you to Christ, which changed everything. Same thing with Lisa. She never had a clear understanding. She was infatuated with me. the problem was she had me on the pedestal of where Christ should be. And so, because she kind of came into our family.

She tells the story that she said, Dad told me that you either convert them or call them, you know, that's when you're picking a woman. And so she said, I didn't want to get called, but she never really converted either. So she just kind of played for a few years

until she finally got lined out. So you were mentioning, Jays, that it's not easy in marriage. In fact, I was talking to Missy, we're going to have, she's going to be on the podcast

in a couple of weeks. Oh, no. Here we go. Y'all didn't tell me that. Well, it's about at this time, when you're speaking of power couples, we just need to remember to this day, Ms. Kay, now, all she does, every week, it's all written down on a calendar. She's getting it all together every week.

every week, and that means day and night. In other words, she has couples that she has people that have been divorced multiple times that are living together who are not married. She's dealing with what about all the couples out there, who the struggles have mounted on them and they've made some poor choices and it didn't work out there. It didn't work out the next time. It didn't work out.

So how does that factor into all this? Because we don't want to come across. Like, we got it and you don't. Ha, ha, whatever. We need to. Well, that's a point. There's a risk that we're like bragging about our marriage. But the point is, if you give God all the credit for this,

which we all do, which I go back to that statement, the cinematographer made. He didn't realize that these things were built, and I say these things, our marriages were built not only to last, but to be forever. The initial meeting with,

before we knew who the film crew was going to be, when the big dogs from A&E showed up in our living room, they flew down and presented the potential of television. show. Nobody knew what the name ever was. We didn't have a name for it. They said, we want to film y'all, you know, a reality show. I remember that after they walked out, my, y'all were my sons and daughters and daughter-in-laws, and somebody said, Dad, they looked over at me and they said, I held up my Bible. I said, is this part of the TV show? I did that with the A&E, big dogs.

I held my Bible up. I said, well, if y'all going to film us, a bunch of redneck shooting ducks, I said, I don't think that's going to work. I said, but so is this in there? And I held up my Bible, and they said, however y'all live, that's what we're going to film. Well, as it turned out, your buddy was thinking, when we get done with them, they won't even have any faith in God. Oh, that's right. Because that's what happened.

So I said, if God is behind, they said, Dad, do you think it to work? said, I don't think it would work. I said, however, I said, if God is behind it, it'll go ballistic. That was my comment. Well, I googled before we did this, power couples. And, of course, you know what the world says. All the lists that I looked at were people with money, fame, and basically had married individuals who were also famous or rich.

So that's what they deemed a power couple was two famous people getting married. I found zero list. And no one who was on the list who had people that had put their faith and trust in the almighty and turned their marriage into a vehicle to help the world be a better place. And I mean, I surely thought, you know, Tim Tebow and his new wife would make a list. I mean, I'm at that couple. They're doing the same types of things that my wife and I talk about. When you look at what we do individually, you know, I look at my wife.

She's had, you know, a business where she helped women who were the victims of sex trafficking at starting at an early age. Basically, their parents were pimping them out for money due to drug, addictions and all. this, trying to give them a sense of worth later on life and responsibility to have a job, you know, all in the vein of in Jesus transformations happen, kind of like the story you shared Al with Chad and Debbie. They're doing the same thing with helping those types of people. She's helped thousands of people through the Mia Mu and helping kids with craniofacial, you know,

issues from year in, year out, having the women's groups in every, you know, neighborhood that she's been in of disciplining young women. And you look, you know, me doing events and sharing Jesus. Then us as couples coming together, you know, having training, doing all this from sharing Jesus. When I look at all the activities going on, you would think that those types of couples would make a list somewhere out there in Google land. But I saw zero. All I saw was fame and fortune. And you know what I found intriguing?

Is a lot of the power couples on the list were on it more than once because they got divorced after they were a power couple and then married someone else famous and then became a power couple. And I'm like, what kind of power are they presenting? It's worthy of note, it's worthy of note, just this last week, one of the girls that Kay works with, OD, and she's gone. I mean, and this is repeated itself, and there's been suicides, it's been ODs, I mean, you know, they're dying of drug, but that's going on between these couples that Kay works with, Ms. Kay works with, I only talk with the men if they will come and sit down, which a lot of times very difficult. They say, if I could get my husband to go down there, the one I'm sleeping with, what,

and we're trying to patch up the remnants of what's left of a very sinful life, either on one of them's part or both of them. And then the children get involved. I mean, it is a job. Yeah. Your mother, she works with them every week. She sits down with them. They phone calls at night and they're in trouble and they run out of money and this. But it just goes on and on, Al.

You see what I'm saying? Well, that becomes the key is what you're doing something larger than yourself. And Jason is right. I found this definition on the Internet, which, you know, I don't know who put stuff on there, but it says a power couple is created when two powerful people, people who care about succeeding in their respective career. It's about money and status. Come together in a relationship and manage to empower one another instead of dragging one another down,

which I thought, well, that sounds pretty good. I mean, I like that part. When you see the successes that come out of there, granted, the percentages are not good. But the bottom line is for every couple that comes out of that, their past and their struggles and all that, everyone that comes over. You know, I start thinking of it comes to my mind, Chad Johnson and his woman. I mean, you know, the way they finally entered up together.

There was a lot of, what's the word, a lot of chaos within both of them and their marriages, but they ended up an amazing couple. Well, we need to redefine power couple. That's what I brought up, the what God is joined together. I believe that God's power is what unifies. You did a mathematical equation in your sermon. Tell us about that. I think that should be the definition.

A big part of being a power couple is public perception. And I thought, you know, whoever wrote that definition and then comes back with this super shallow idea that you don't really have to be empowered, but if people think you are, then you're a power couple. And that's why it's so shallow. I mean, you know, isn't that what happened in Acts 5? Anonis and Safara, they wanted a public perception of we're a power couple. We're selling fields, giving money, we're helping people.

It was all based on a lie. And based on what happened, the power couple became, boy, they became a power couple. I, to the church, everybody was fearful because they said, Don't do that. God does not like that kind of power couple based on fame and misuse of fortune. Yeah, which proves that the power of any couple out when you get done at the end of the day is God himself. Right.

Here's where I went to with that. So I went to Solomon's words in Ecclesiastes 4. Because Solomon, let's face it, I mean, the Bible says he was the wise. this man that ever lived, but he also had a thousand wives. Which doesn't seem very wise. Yeah. Exactly. I mean, part of you says, well, yeah, I guess he'd

been an expert of marriage. He had a thousand wives, but at the same time, he had so many problems. He wrote ecclesiastes, which he was so depressed. You know, and can you imagine? We're married to one woman. I can't imagine trying to keep a thousand men. I would hate to oversee a thousand head. After living with

just one, I'm like, whoa. course she should feel the same way. The words he says here, which could be for any relationship, but you think about these, if you thought about them in terms of marriage, two are better than one because they have a good return for their labor. That was the first thing he said. If either of them falls down, one can help the other up. If two lie down together, they will keep warm.

Though one may be overpower, two can defend themselves. And then he says this amazing phrase at the end, which was what I zeroed in on. A quarter of three strands is not quickly broken. And so I went back to my math, you know, all the great learning I did in math, which I hated in school. And this concept of synergy came up. It's a business term, basically, which is if you can get together with another organization or business, sometimes together you can create something bigger than you could do on your own.

I think the vaccine, perfect example. of that. You had these companies coming together and creating something greater than any one of them could have done on their own. It's the concept of synergy. And so I think that's what happens in a marriage relationship. I mean, God has this, we're individually and we love him, but when you merge those two and then you see something more powerful, you get more return. That was the idea. So what I said was is one times one equals one, right? Basic math. But if you're one times one, you don't create anything new. And I use the example that if your times is, you know, the idea of being against, if you're working against one another in a spiritual way, then you're not going to create something greater for the Almighty. You may just stay the same. You may just be mediocre.

Nor the culture that you live in. You won't help the culture either. Well, don't you think if you were focused on created things, which you think most marriages, what causes the problems, are over arguments over things of the creation instead of what can the creator use us to do. I mean, you think, what's the number one thing people argue about?

Money, which I keep going to Anonisans fire. Over the idea of money and how they were publicly portrayed, they exchanged their character. and they were not people trying to use their marriage as a way to help other people find their role with God. It was the exact opposite, where when you look at Priscilla and Aquila, they were consorting with character because they had surrendered to God, number one, and then surrendered to each other instead of saying, well, I'm not getting anything out of this relationship. it's the idea of, well, what can I do for you to help the overall objective in reaching people?

Would you agree? I would. So, let's take another break. So one times one is one. It stays the same. It's mediocre. It doesn't accomplish it. One plus one is two.

Now, that's, we're working together. You know, we're two. And that's great. Maybe we accomplish some things. Maybe we don't. But one plus one equals three. This was my big math defined. is what he finishes with when he says a strand of three is not easily broken.

If we put the Almighty, the creator of the universe, as our power source, then we're one plus one equals three. And according to what he says here's, you don't break that. It's not easily broken. And it isn't. I mean, because once God's charged, and we've been talking about the Johnsons, you know, both I walked with them and you guys did too. They both divorced.

I mean, Chad became a Christian. and his wife were separated. And once he became a Christian, he wanted to, you know, he wanted to bring her in. He loved her. Well, she winds up, you know, having a child with another man and marries him. And he was devastated because he was like, I can't, now I'm divorced. I can't fix that. And so we walked with him through that early process.

Debbie went through a divorce as well. When they married, it was, it was oil and water. I mean, you talk about a couple that did not, and you described it, Jace, they did not get along. They were so different. They fought the whole time. They were the first couple we've ever had at our marriage retreat that left in the middle of the night on the first night. Like, we were looking around.

Where's Chad and Debbie? And somebody said, I don't know. I saw him last night. So I called Chad. I said, hey, where are y'all at? Are y'all somewhere on the property? No, we went home. We got in a big fight and went home.

And so, you know, we laugh about it now. But what saved their marriage, literally what saved their marriage was when they both got on the same page to serve God. And which was using your math analogy, it doesn't work out until the three, you, your woman, and God, when they become one, then you're on your way. That's the core. It became a lot stouter. You know, it's amazing.

You brought out that marriage retreat. the first time I went to that marriage retreat, we had our first session. They do it like a night. Then the next day, I forgot exactly all the time. So that night, we were all together,

all the married couples. And we're talking about how we can have these power. They weren't using that phrase, but in Christ. So it was funny. It was good. It was education. So we go back to the room.

We'll on the way to the room. him another couple that we were we knew we knew them they're like can we talk to y'all sure so we come in there well all heck break loose because they're really struggling in their marriage so and i wanted to bring this up because you talk about counseling people i'm not a counselor at all but i have the counselor the holy spirit i have the word of god i'm in jesus and i have their best interest at hand So it's not like I have always feel inadequate when people are like, well, what should we do in our marriage? I just go to the scriptures and I'm like, well, let's just work it out together. So we start talking that night.

Look, we study all night. And it went from laughter to tears to arguments between themselves. And at daylight, they conclude that neither one of them have put their faith and trust in Jesus at all. We ended up going down below, and they had a hot tub that was not functional because it was below freezing outside. And we baptized that couple into Jesus, which they became some of our best friends. Of course, we're, so during session two the next day, we all go back and go to sleep. It was a marriage retreat. I only got the first night, and that happened.

but I look back on that as like, this is what we should be doing here. I mean, we had a situation. They didn't last one session, and it just promoted chaos, which turned into something beautiful in Christ. So I couldn't help but share that.

It was awesome. That almost happens every year. It's not that exactly, but I mean, where a couple will come, because, you know, we used to have 60 couples at this, treat it. They come from now, of course, because of our family and people know us, they come from

all over the country, not necessarily members at our church. I mean, usually half the group that's there doesn't go to White Square Road. They're from some other place. And so I've seen it all doing this for 20 years. And it's really interesting, you're right. I mean, it's about helping other people. So part of that is telling your story. We do a lot of testimonies there, you know, because we want people to know, look, it's not perfect. Like, we struggle. I mean, that's what we do. But in Christ, all things are made right, you know, which is the whole What's amazing is that conversation started off with She doesn't do this, well, he doesn't do this, and then yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then seven hours later, you see a guy broken tears running down his face and he's like, I've never surrendered to Jesus. It's like it went from the little short arguments over mess that doesn't matter because they're bringing up these accusations and looking at us, and we're like, that's it. That's what this is all about. Jase, you gave an exact description of what has to happen before couples become power couples. The word, what's what this, Paul is talking about, the Jews, they were zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge.

He starts with that. I mean, Romans 10. But he gets down at the bottom, he said, well, what does it say? What we're preaching. The word is near you. It's in your mouth and in your heart. That is the word of faith we are proclaiming. And then it gets down to this, which it took all night session with you and that couple,

that if you confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you'll be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified. And it's with your mouth that you confess and are saved. Everyone who trust in him will never be put to shame. And he goes and he's just saying until there's a heart change about you husband, you wife, and you, God, that we are to bow down to. When that moment hits a couple or an individual, then and only then, Al, when there's a.

change of heart, do you start seeing the progressive and they begin to progress then from that moment on? But there has to be a heart chained somewhere at the beginning or it'll fall apart. Yeah. So let's take one last break. So I used as my last math analogy, something I learned in geometry, which I learned very little, but it was a triangle. And so I made the point

I had a triangle up on the stage is if you have God at the center and top of your relationship, which is the concept I believe that Solomon was talking about in Ecclesiastes and you two are on the corners of that triangle as you both individually

move towards the Almighty you're also moving closer together, you know, as you move up that scale. That's Roman's 10. That's where I just quoted from. And I think it's also Ephesians 5 when he gave the roles in marriage, but then he gets to the end and he says, but I'm talking about you being married to Jesus, which is, you know, I love Jesus more than I'll ever love my wife.

And she is the same exact way. Well, there's something about coming together with that in common that tends to make you unselfish and protective of the other party. So with your triangle, I'll continue on with that because that's a good point. As obviously, you're going to spend your whole life. You're never going to get there, but you're going to spend your whole life on that journey. And sometimes you're at different places. And that's why the idea of syncing up in faith is making sure that the Almighty is number one. What's interesting, Jay, you didn't know this.

So the rest of the story that you didn't get to see because the thing froze up is there was a couple that was there that day. They listened to the podcast. They're from Pennsylvania. and they drove down that day. This is on the Valentine's Day. Well, that's when the big deep freeze was starting. So, Dad, you guys didn't meet. So he was going to go to university for you to baptize him.

Well, you guys weren't meeting that day because of the freeze. But we met that day. We were going to do live stream. And so he's there with his wife. And I talked to him before somebody brought him to meet. He wanted to be baptized. He said, yes, great. So I told him how to come down at the end of the thing.

He did. I took him back there. We get into water. I baptized him into Christ. and it was interesting when he came out, we had prayer for him. And he looked at her and he said, I'm in the triangle now. And it was really interesting. That was a good line.

I was perfect. I loved it. That was the perfect ending to what we were trying to accomplish. And so basically, I'll give you the last little bit of it. Jace mentioned Priscilla McKillop. So in Acts 18, because I wanted to sink it into what we've been studying in the book of Acts. So I kind of fast forwarded it over to this couple. Because like Jay said, we already saw.

a fake power couple in Acts 5. Which would be the Bermuda. They were in the Bermuda triangle. There you go. I like that. So you got the worldly is the Bermuda and you got the God triangle, which is Priscilla and Aquila. The wrong thing. The top of so many triangles for couples are fame or money or status or whatever. And if that's what you're working towards and that's all there is is, is shallow.

of course it's not going to last. I mean, you know, because things happen and you lose that. So this couple, what struck me about him was, is they were very kind of behind the scenes is what it seems like. In Acts 18, verse 18, Paul is in Corinth, and then he leaves to go to Syria. And he takes his couple with him, Priscilla and Akila. And what's interesting about him is we know they're from Corinth, so they come from that charts. They had a lot of issues. But obviously, Paul thought a lot of them if he's bringing them along on his journey.

And then it says in verse 24, a Jew named Apollos, a native of Alexandria, came Ephesus. He was a learned man with a thorough knowledge of the scriptures. We talked about him before. He had been instructed in the way of the Lord. He spoke with great fervor and taught about Jesus accurately, though he only knew of the baptism of John. So, I mean, he's a very talented person. And, Jason, you mentioned this for me. There's five descriptions of them there that's pretty amazing.

Yeah. But he doesn't quite have it all down. He doesn't understand because he doesn't understand. because he had to do you and understand about the baptism of Jesus. So verse 26 says, he began to speak boldly in the synagogue. So Priscilla, Killa, hear him, and they invite him to their home and explain the way of God more adequately. And I love the way they did. They didn't confront him.

They didn't, because they realized when he's speaking, he doesn't have the end of the story. He doesn't understand yet about the baptism of Jesus. And so he's got all this great stuff going on. He's talents and built. So they just kind of take him aside. and they taught him the way more adequately. And I think of that is what we do on this podcast. And we're just trying to talk about the scriptures so that people can get that and go.

But that really, this guy wound up being a big deal. And I can guarantee you probably nobody in his circle ever knew the impact Priscilla and killer had on him. And yet that's what a power couple does. They take a talented guy in Christ and they told him a little bit more. And then all of a sudden this guy takes off like a rocket ship. So that was kind of my, you know, hammering the last point on that we really can't achieve what we need to achieve unless we're both going in the same direction in terms of marriage relationship. Well, I don't think there's any more active illustration in the world if, you know, then what Priscilla and Akila compared to Ananais and Safara, if you just had those two posters of these couples, which, by the way, Priscilla and Aquila made no power couples on anything I saw.

Even from the religious world, I would have thought I would have found one post somewhere. I thought, no, they just got the snide. But if you want to ask yourself for all of us in marriage land, which couple does your marriage represent? I think that's a really good question. It's a really good accountability thing. Am I being led around by public perception and fighting over created things? Or are we trying to have people in our house and using our home as a way to not only teach and admonish,

but to focus people on Jesus and what God wants us to do? Explaining to anyone the way. of God more adequately. Yeah. And remember, I just want to say at the end of this to our audience, because you don't have to be married to accomplish great things in Christ. I mean, the key thing, you can be single. I mean, Paul said he was gifted by being sick.

He could just totally zero in on God. So I don't want people to misunderstand. If you have a gift of celibacy and you want to be able to just serve God and be single, the two greatest influences in the Gospels and the New Testament were Jesus and Paul. neither one of them was married. That's good, that's good news. However. For old Dan, old Dan, the eunuch.

However, if you're looking for someone a mate, I'm saying they should, single people should consider what we've presented here. If you want to be a power couple, this is the avenue you need to go down. That's exactly right. Find somebody who loves Jesus more than you. I get a lot of emails from our audience, a lot of times. it'll be from a wife that says you guys have totally changed my husband's outlook in his life and now we're doing so much better as a couple.

So when I read stuff like that, it's very, you know, because that's what we're trying to do. We want to get everybody on the same page spiritually. So that was kind of the point. Good job. It was awesome. Yeah, next time. Thanks for listening to The Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes.

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